/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

lets be honest here, mel is not smart at all, and with all the outside collabs she had done recently, she probably leaked some info that she shouldnt have to those people, and that was the end of her, too late to go back.
Walled gardens not only protect your content itself, but they also protect your retarded girls from being retarded with other people and gettting into trouble like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840080
It's almost as if collabing within your org prevents a lot of potential fuckups

[Anonymous No.]

Wasn't she the lowest IQ Holo? Even dumber than Ru-chan?

[Anonymous No.]

It was Kotoka wasn't it.

[Anonymous No.]

Exactly
Cover would never lie to js and even if they did Fubuki would reveal the truth

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>>66840080
2view homo indies/nasty low iq streamers are nothing but greedy degenerates. shes too retarded and kind to handle them

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840149
Rushia...

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>>66840080
Hololive has taught me that islam might be onto something regarding limiting the freedoms of women.

[Anonymous No.]

I don’t think forcing all the talents into a bubble would go down well with them, unless you want more graduations, don’t do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840080
Rrat: kotoka throw her under the bus

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>>66840418
Improve quality of content and get rid of snakes at the same time? Gosh that sounds so bad

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>>66840080
Agreed, let this serve as a reminder that those grifters and ecelebs don't fucking care about the holos wellbeing. Matsuri barely survived her whore incident although they could have went hard on her; but when someone leaks shit they can't close their eyes anymore

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>>66840418
>all the whores leave AND some of the cancerous normalfags fans fuck off
Sounds nice

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>>66840507 (me)
Matsuri barely survived her own whore incident unscathed, I mean

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>>66840554
If you think the rest of the company should be punished because of what some retard did, you might be the cancer.

[Anonymous No.]

Looking at it that way, it’s pretty damn impressive she managed to survive this long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840080
based homobeggers keep losing
unicorns chads keep staying fresh

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840080
I'm worried for her, what is she going to do now?
what jobs? Mel will fall into something like vtuber cam whoring or worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>66841409
I will fucking kill you, even if you are a stupid larper. Stop shitposting.

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>>66841409
>AI art
Yikes

[Anonymous No.]

>>66842427
how new

[Anonymous No.]

The JP entertainment sphere are full of snakes and vultures. The biggest problem is even though she got tricked, she would feel it is still 100% her fault. I honestly hope the girls take time to help her transition away from Holo.

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>>66842427
She will be fine, her RM is popular

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>>66840080
I wonder if this was long term payback for her snitching on that manager that raped her?

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>>66840080
Mel would still be alive if she never did intergender collabs. I blame VCR GTA for this.

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>>66840080
She should have learned from Ollie's experience, and realize that flesh streamers, and e-celebs collabing with vtubers are only using you to get closer to more popular talents like Gura, Suisei, Marine, and Pekora. Then, they'll toss you onto the curb if they fail to get what they want. Hope this serves as a warning to Towa, Matsuri, and Botan to keep their mouths shut when collabing with flesh streamers since that's all they've been doing recently.

[Anonymous No.]

This board really likes to shit on nijisisters, but the speed with which holobronies throw their former talents under the bus is extraordinary, bravo.

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>>66840507
>>66840723
>her whore incident
tell me more, I could have sworn I saw an AV with someone that looked eerily similar to her housemate

[Anonymous No.]

>>66841409
Perhaps devastating for JP but not for EN viewers.

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>>66840080
>mel is not smart at all
correct. Not reading anymore of your bait

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>>66843756
She made a audio only of her jerking off to Yuri. That's it, nothing happend.
Even 5ch toddlers didn't care

[Anonymous No.]

>>66843756
I need sauce on this AV

[Anonymous No.]

MUST PROTECT COMPANY BEEP BOOP BEEP

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>>66843756
>>66843903
I thought it was the VCR GTA ERP incident

[Anonymous No.]

>>66843667
truly fucking repulsive

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>>66842826
i still dont understand at all why she suddenly decided to start homocollabing. it actually puzzled me then because her situation was clearly getting better than ever, having many collabs with holomems and being exposed to many viewers. her clips were also obviously increasing and got many views.

she mightve wanted to boost it up by being more openminded to everyone beyond hololive and gender but afaik she wasnt really pro homo for years. rather, she looked like she actually gave a fuck about her gachis and unicorns, aside from gen 1s activity in the dawn of the vtuber industry where everyone was virtually a friend, but she suddenly changed her mind for some reason.

and only a few months after that, she was tricked by some random homo/dumb streamer and had to face the worst consequence. its so fucking damn shame.

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>>66840192
It's for the best. When you think about it, there's no reason why stupid people should make money being a streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

makes me worry for my oshi
shes not mel retarded, but she is... not smart and reckless
and now free from the cuckshed too

did mel have any particularly close friends among the girls at all? i have been watching since a bit before JP 3rd gen debuted, but i think i can count on one hand the times that i have seen anyone i watched collab with her

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>>66840723
redpill me on this. what happened to her?

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>>66844291
She was caught playing with a stars member off camera. She might have thought that since she’s already “tainted”, she might as well just collab with them anyway, similar to Towa’s early jab.

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>>66841409
You won but you're still not getting laid

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>>66843903
>She made a audio only of her jerking off to Yuri
That seems tame by Matsuri standards
>>66843909
I legit can't remember the code for it; I think I may have seen it on /gif/ once or twice as a clip though

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>>66840080
My guy Mel is one of the most connected Holos there is, regardless of whether or not you see it on stream. Her only interacting with other Holos on stream isn't going to stop her from accidentally saying something she shouldn't to someone she shouldn't.

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>>66844291
Mel is her side job, she was just doing what she wanted to do. There was no hidden meaning behind her actions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66841409
Based.

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>>66844495
Explain Gura

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>>66840308
That's why I'm scared for and surprised Ollie has managed to make it so far. She's easily used/manipulated because she has low self esteem, which is sad.

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>>66843667
It’s all just the usual tribalism, the main thing that differs between Holofags and Nijifags is Holofags picked a better company. You still see people shitting on former talents like Coco and Rushia regularly, I imagine in the future the narrative will be that Mel was a homocollabing whore so nothing of value was lost anyway.

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>>66843667
Most people on this board didn't even watched Mel.
Most of the former talents that are shitted on are whores.
Nijisisters try to paint their talents as saints when we all know that they are not and Nijisanji itself is a black company 100x worst than Cover.

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>>66840192
Pretty sure your IQ I’d lower. Probably explains why your a kissless virgin over the age of 21

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>>66849163
>I imagine in the future the narrative will be that Mel was a homocollabing whore so nothing of value was lost anyway.
Island monkeys and /#/fags are already saying this shit. If your Oshi was a JP, she was probably well connected to Mel. Mel is the reason why half of the early gens got hired. Her and Fubuki basically rec'd half the company at that point.

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>>66849163
Rushia was a whore, even on graduation people were shitting of her because of how she graduated and it was even confirmed by her later that she leaked things for dramatuber.

After everyone learned that Coco was a whore with her other channel anyone sane lost hope on her and started shitting because of it, and to be fair she was praised mainly because of how she gratuated since sane people hate china.

Mel was getting fire for homocollabing before the graduation, there are several threads about her collabing with guys or outcollabing with whores, and there is even the audio of her camwhoring, most of EN didn't watch her so to then nothing of value was really lost.

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>>66849328
Anon...

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>>66850228
If there's a throwing under the bus competition Holofags would win no contest.

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>>66841409
Fuck it, based

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>>66850777
Do you not remember how Nijifans handled their graduates and terminations last year?

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>>66850228
Almost everyone in JP has collabed with dudes by this point. It wasn't that.

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>>66840080
Didn't the announcement say they reached an agreement with the talent

so was there a potential that she could have continued activities ?

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>>66840080
You're right. She probably did it accidentally knowing how dumb and air headed she is. If she was a mole leaking stuff on purpose they probably would have sued her instead of just firing her.

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>>66850938
I didn't say that this was the reason she was terminated, it's clearly stated that it was NDA breach and rrat are talking about insider trading.

I just pointing out that this is not "future narrative", people were talking about her homocollabs for months, Nijisisters are just trying to build a narrative to bury Pomu and Selen graduation because of their Black company.

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>>66851156
Possibly.

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>>66850777
I think Nijifags would win with Zaion graduation alone.

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>>66851156
I'm sorry anon, but no. They reached an agreement regarding the termination, aka Mel acknowledged she broke the NDA or whatever and knew that this termination had to happen, rather than them kicking her out clawing and screaming. All it means is that there is *probably* no bad blood there.
From the viewers' perspective it's still just a termination all the same.

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>>66851225
Even the termination announcement had a part about how they are going to work on educating their talents better about this in the future.
It just seems like this was something where Mel was being Meltarded again but not malicious or crazy. She's simple, but not bad.

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>>66851156
>NDA breach
no. it would instantly blacklist cover from future collaborations from literally any other company.
the fact this is the 2nd time, will still fucking hurt them, an incredible lose-lose situation.
they should have did what they promised to do after rushia termination, actually train the talents about this shit

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>>66851389
Doesn't mean she acknowledged it, just that she won't fight the decision. Understandable given how the company has slandered former talents like Rushia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66842893
would you mimd to give some hints? my pp is mourning

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>>66844495
A lot of the top streamers are pretty damn dumb. It's mostly charisma and/or luck.

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>>66843667
Except no one is throwing her under the bus. This isn't like Rushia who was basically giving info to Japanese Keemstar. All we know is that it was a fuck up and she sadly got punished for it. But no one other than shit-stirrers are happy about it.

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>>66840192
>>66840080
But she's hot so it's okay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66844694
https://youtu.be/60kt2k4v4iA?feature=shared

[Anonymous No.]

if the rrats/rumors are true she was omega retarded and gave the real name of another holo talent to someone on the GTA RP server so yea, get fucked retard lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840402
Idol corp is one of the most liberating corpos out there so that's not true

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>>66853962
Basically the two leaks, that I can think of, that would lead to instant termination are:
>Leaking major personal info, like name or address, about other talents
>Leaking info about unannounced products etc you got from collaborations with other companies

[Anonymous No.]

>>66851156
She definitely did some bad shady stuff. They say her channel will be closed down next month, but if you check, Coco's channel is still up and running with all the vods still there. There is a big difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66854558
We've been watching Hololive enough to know they'd only really terminate someone like this if the situation was really, really bad. And even in situations where it can't be helped, they typically give the talent a proper ceremonial graduation. Mel has a history of being amiable and typically problem-free. She's never been the center of any yabs and really this board only talks about her because she's hot, entertaining and talked about being raped. It's very uncharacteristic of Cover to terminate her suddenly without any warning and not even giving a gen 1 member of this caliber a chance of having a proper graduation despite her immense history with the agency.

Whatever happened, it must've been big.

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>>66855067
it's a termination baka, coco graduated

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840080
+1 gift card sis. Maybe you can use it on Yagoo-sama's yacht

[Anonymous No.]

>>66855194
Everyone knows Coco was forced to graduate. If Mel did some bad stuff but wasn't that bad, she would be forced to graduate too. But this time it was very sudden. She recently posted stuff about future collabs, so this means they caught her and ended her on the spot.

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>>66855353
>Coco was forced to graduate.
By the antis she just couldn't handle them anymore, Cover wanted coco to stay given how she was always with the top super chatted channels

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840080
Kill yourself bootlicker

[Anonymous No.]

>>66855353
>Coco was forced to graduate
Zhang ping pong

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840080
>Leaks info
>Info nowhere available
Therefore it's not leaked, I don't get this retarded definition. If she said her managers address on stream or something, that would be a leak

[Anonymous No.]

>>66855710
Leaked info doesn't necessarily have to be exposed on the internet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66851593

They said the same when Rushia

And here we are 2 years later with these motherfuckers saying the same shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66855853
It inevitably will be, and if it wasn't, how would they even know?? Have they bugged their members PCs or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66855925
Could've been blackmail as one example.
The person she leaked to tips hololive about the leak and she is done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66855123
>Really really bad

Smells like bull to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>66856032
If that's true, why wouldn't that person make that info public?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66856118
If his goal was getting her fired, he doesn't need to. More so they wont draw attention to themselves that way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66855925
Management has access to their accounts. It's how they also are able to lock talents out of their accounts. All they have to do is log in and look through DMs every once in a while.

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>>66855925
Inside trading or Corp. info to another company, which are the most likely things that happened.

Don't necessarily will or need to be in the internet, but they have ways to know, that is fairly simple.

NDA are normally broke like with what Rushia did and caused that shitstorm, normally are more subtle things that will not get disclosed to the public.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66855710
retard. what corpo or cracker would expose it to the internet when its profitable and they can own it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66856277
Talent A is speaking with Talent B
>Talent A of Corp A:
"I'm really looking forward to this collab we're having with Business X"
>Talent B of Corp B:
"Oh, that sounds really cool."
>Talent B messages Manager B
'Corp A is going to collab with Business X'
>Corp B puts out a tweet
'Corp B would love to participate in the collab between Corp A and Business X! Thank you for inviting us!'
>Corp A and Business X are forced to either accept their participation, or face backlash for refusing

Would be decent use of NDA-worthy info

[Anonymous No.]

>She leaked info..
>Professional neets in jp don't know what the leaked info is...

She's probably pregnant

[Anonymous No.]

>>66848955
no brain, no way to retain critical infos and leak them
its that easy

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>>66856411
the fuck are you talking about, terminally online tranny. if a corpo or a criminal gets other corpos confidential info they use it for their benefit, wont bother to expose it in public. you only know about the internet torrent leak drama trash and dont even watch any films like that.

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>>66856783
Woah princess, chill.
You asked why someone would expose the info, I gave an example. Of course it would require Corp B to want to cause damage to Corp A's PR above all else, but it's still something theoretically possible. Companies have made more melodramatic moves in the past.

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>>66856277
>Profitable
Retard, you can't sell things to the public when you don't make it public. What could this juicy secret even be that is allegedly so much worth it

[Anonymous No.]

>>66857015
huh? you cant even read shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66844694
>shes not mel retarded, but she is... not smart and reckless
Bae is reckless but saying she isn't smart is funny.
>Fluent Japanese, English native, can speak Cantonese, graduated with a degree while also vtubing.
She mogs the average man, especially here.
Bae's biggest issue isn't stupidity, it's that she's genuinely nice and that can be exploited. See Ollie for past examples.

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>>66857015
"We're making a movie!"
>Subsequent insider-trading scandal
"My big-name Senpai is prepping to quit!"
>Leaks and causes outrage/stock crash/insider-trading scandal
"CEO-san is planning to retire!"
>etc etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840402
In an Islamic society your oshi would be covered by a burka

[Anonymous No.]

>>66843667
True it's like they are always ready to bootlick, like nobody was really shitting on Pomu for leaving just the company itself

[Anonymous No.]

>>66857098
Anon, languages are a matter of motivation and environment, not intelligence. I’d say Bae is more intelligent than most anons think, but that in itself isn’t why. All that says is she’s a weeb with Chinese parents.
It does suggest she has the other things besides intelligence needed for success, like dedication and perseverance though, mostly for the knowing Japanese part and the fact that she grew up in an English speaking country (which is like losing the cosmic lottery when it comes to knowing more than one language).

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>>66856895
why have my post been deleted? no personal info and no criminal statement ofc
is some tranny going apeshit over the phrase "terminally online tranny"?

>The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments. Please refrain from posting the following:

lol
fuck this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66849328
Good morning sir

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>>66857365
Whorofags are going into overdrive mass reporting posts in an attempt to Cover up (heh) their drama. Holo board but no discussion on holo current events allowed kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>66856277
There have been multiple examples that happening.
For example in 2006 executive assistant from Coca-Cola tried to sell some trade secrets to Pepsi. But Pepsi just exposed they guy to Coca-Cola instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66857209
Yet none of those things are known. And apparently that third party hasn't publicized it either

[Anonymous No.]

>>66854024
thats what the jews want you to think

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840080
Looking forward to the FC2 redebut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66857098

>I GOTTA LIVE IN DARKNESS TO SAVE 0.1 YEN ON MY ELECTRICITY BILL
>smart

I can't take a single person who turns off modern lighting in an effort to save on their electricity bill seriously.

That's believing in homeopathy-level of retarded.

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>>66857098
>See Ollie for past examples
huh?

[Anonymous No.]

what did she even leak? was it info of other people or just some future collab/event?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66858242
she leaked my cum, forgot to put a plug in her pussy afterwards, sorry

[Anonymous No.]

>>66852312
her RM stuff is spicier than her Holo stuff was

[Anonymous No.]

>>66858242
It's just a convenient excuse to axe her while looking good. It's a classic black company tactic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66857791
i have to doubt you are the salty janitor. the removal was too quick. its unbelievable that "terminally online tranny" is bannable offence here despite posting japs chinks niggers spics being free. even the wokeist reddit board /int/ doesnt censor it. the one violating "vtuber discussion" here is nothing but you amerimutt tranny janitor.

why would an explanation of mels leak, covers reactions, and how malicious corpos/criminals treat leaked confidential info have to be banned. everyone here is literally posting about it.

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>>66858575
Nta but ACTUALLY holy esl, seafag.
>doubt
Means the exact opposite of what you were trying to say. I legitimately had to read to the end to confirm you were accusing the other anon of being the janny.
The word you were looking for was “suspect”.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66858705
Looks like the man was right. That shit got yeeted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66858575
The janny logic is that all discussion would be contained in the sticky and not have 20 threads flooding the catalog. Personally, containment is a flawed concept and hardly works and Streisand effect makes deleting threads a hazard not a solution.

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>>66840192

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>>66858575
>i have to doubt you are the salty janitor
>the one violating "vtuber discussion" here is nothing but you amerimutt tranny janitor.
Someone make this make sense.
Anon you asked why it was deleted, I answered: Cover shills are mass reporting. If I had to guess why the post I'm replying to was deleted, it's probably for "complaining" about the jannies

[Anonymous No.]

>>66858444
Anon, if she's making them money, causing no problems, and axing her (regardless of the reason) makes the company look bad, why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66858575
>>66858991
My thread was deleted too for simply asking about it civilly, ruling out possibilities for explanations. Apparently discussing vtubers is against the rules of /vt/

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>>66851156
>Didn't the announcement say they reached an agreement with the talent
That's corporate legalese for "you're being let go, but you can keep your dignity. We won't honour you eith a proper sendoff, but we won't try to sue you if you go away quietly"

[Anonymous No.]

>>66853127
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840080
Shame because her new outfit is sex and I want to die between those huge mounds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66854024
And look at the condition they are in right now. There's so much idol corp doomposting these past few weeks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66857098
>he thinks getting a degree is hard in westoid countries
>he thinks those degrees are worth anything
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>66849328
this is a board for civilized people ESLNigger kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>66852312
Ricaaach (don't know how many "a" in there, either three or four)

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>>66840507
I imagine there are levels of offences and sanctions within the company. Just accidentally or stupidly leaking "something" probably isn't a hanging offence.

It's either a case of loads of small, retarded leaks that have stacked up over time and she hasn't learnt despite warnings or she has leaked something maliciously or for financial gain for herself which would obviously be a sackable offence

[Anonymous No.]

>>66843756
they all look the same

[Anonymous No.]

So, is the vcr blaming stuff pure schizo speculation or there's literally any nugget of evidence supporting it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840080
Cover should have given her 2 handlers, a helmet, drooling bin, and more squeaky toys

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840080
>the outside holo gta collabs made 2 of the girls fuck their careers
So will they ban that atrocity already or will we be getting another retard fucking themselves in a bad way

[Anonymous No.]

>>66864317
a safe retard is a good retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>66864737
I hope they make it so you need a perm for every minute you play GTA

[Anonymous No.]

>>66864737
kinda funny since the miko gta clip at the same time made holo into what it is today

[Anonymous No.]

>>66858995
Holo axed their two biggest moneymakers in the past. You think they give a shit about Mel when Coco and Rushia made dozens of times as much?

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>>66840080
Yep, it was a matter of time, i really hope cover will cut down on that shit ruined a content and get them a graduation are they really ready to lose more? And the homo, the reason why they allowed that in the first place barely gain any view anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

how easy would it be to talk mel into anal?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66852996
Prove it.

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>>66855353
> Coco was forced to graduate
hahaha right. No. She did the damage and took off only to jump right into another corp soon as her NDA was up. She made her own problems and ran from them. Look at her now. Talent freedom aint doing her jack shit other than letting her rotate girls around to seeing who will let her munch carpet.

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>>66851156
Possibly but with a long suspension and severe financial punishement not mentioning her reputation would be attrocious among the other member and make her interact with oltehr talent really akward. Her leaving was likely the best option, also who would want to pay tons of money as reparation if you have such a good alternative as leaving with your reputation almost intact.

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>>66840192

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>>66851755
>Doesn't mean she acknowledged
She did acknowledge it
>Understandable given how the company has slandered former talents like Rushia.
Ok you just a retard then, nobody forgot when korekore show rushia discord on 140k live viewer that day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66855353
>>66840080
Never forget Hololive is a black corpo with darkness hidden behind their friendly facade.
A family does not stop being a family when someone does a mistake.
Everyone works together to solve the problem while remaining a family.

This is a black corpo. Not a family and Mel made the mistake of believing this lie despite already having survived the stalker manager incident.
From that experience she should have known that managers use their talents as meat shields.

In the end her graduation got delayed by a few years, but the result was already written when they protected the manager who stalked her.
She can now follow her own path in a healthier environment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66872290
Very good all hail the CCCP and Chairman Pooh

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840080
she was a failing idol. they wanted an excuse to remove her from the premises.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66872290
kek this zhang is literally trying to rerun the same shit they tried after billibilli decided to have a chink out, only for FBK to refute them, again

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840080
>lets be honest here, mel is not smart at all
You're so fucking delusional. You desperately want to pretend these women are sub 40IQ retards only whenever it suits you, whenever it lets you pretend they cannot possibly be responsible for bad decisions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840080
Walled gardens are fine until they aren't. You can't protect someone forever, and the longer you coddle them in a sheltered environment, the more likely they'll fuck up when they come in contact with opportunistic assholes.
Insulating someone from the real world is a terrible long term solution.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66856624
Fuck, that outfit makes me diamonds.

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>>66871140
This isn't explaining the situation, that's just making it seem more reasonable because previous ones were even more ridiculous. However, Coco wanted to leave and Rushia was the Menhera nuke, what's the deal with Mel of all people?
Cover seems to have no other punishment in store other than immediate annihilation

[Anonymous No.]

>>66844694
Nenechi no...

[Anonymous No.]

>>66858965
This images always makes me sad

[Anonymous No.]

>>66879939
They've done a suspension with Aloe before. Suspensions are incredibly destructive though, probably better to just dock their pay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66883251
>incredibly destructive though
As opposed to....destroying the member outright?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840402
A broken clock is right twice a day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66884126
Well that's why I offered docking pay as an alternative. Suspensions are like PIPs, they're a soft termination.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66872290
>Company
>Family
Anyone that uses these words together is a manipulative pos

[Anonymous No.]

>>66883149
Why anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66885481
I wish I could be dumb and still loved. All I get for my dumbness is some abuse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840080
>probably
opinion disregarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>66885481
Would sucks being a dumb male. Nobody thinks those are cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>66885875
>>66887129
it works the same for both sexes.
every fucking celeb quiz show, everyone goes crazy for the completely dense guy that struggles to even name a continent, who has a go at the top prize anyway, and completely fails.

so long as you are attractive and charismatic ofc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840418
Kill yourself nonholo fan

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840080
Walled Garden content encourages burnout.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66879939
Or they don't punish anyone unless the offense is termination worthy. Use your head, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840477
The quality of content you faggots parrot about is hella mid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66887129
It does if you are hot
or rich

[Anonymous No.]

>>66890133
Unfortunately I'm just your no name everyguy that you see on the streets

[Anonymous No.]

>>66872290
>black corpo
>family
>implying there is nothing between these things
>also implying that family would stick with you regardless of literally anything
Someone obviously hasn't had a family member outed as a murderer or pedo. Hell, families break up over even way more petty shit than that all the time.
>obvious zhang is obvious

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840308
good enough, she can coerce them for sexual harassment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66890645
>>66876862
>noo I can't stream with me and my small group of friends
>noo I need to be exposed to bad actors
okay

[Anonymous No.]

>>66857303
So true sis. Nijis are a cut above the rest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66848708
Gura is probably decently smart, at least not as retarded as she pretends whenever there is math in her stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66858965
Wow shes braindead

[Anonymous No.]

>>66849328
Kek, this fucking comment makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840080
Who does anon think is the most probable culprit besides Kotaka or Kson?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66892992
I have I brother who is a drug addict piece of shit and haven't talked to him in years, being family doesn't mean you have to put up with shit.
Also anyone who seriously thinks anyone from a company or a company is like family is retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840080
>probably
>probably
>probably
>probably
>probably

[Anonymous No.]

>>66897027
Kson would never do this to a holo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840207
Becareful

[Anonymous No.]

>>66896375
I think Gura is probably legitimately bad at math and other logic based intelligence but I get the sense she's incredibly people smart which is the single most important thing for someone audience-facing in the entertainment industry. Like it's no mistake that even though she hasn't streamed regularly for well over a year now yet she remains the #1 subscribed vtuber in the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840080
does anybody know her other alt account so i can continue following her.

not to come off as insensitive, but all this moping and whining is pitiful. It right to feel this way but i just moved on

[Anonymous No.]

>>66899713
off topic for this board

[Anonymous No.]

>>66844784
He probably means the Gta erp fiasko

[Anonymous No.]

>>66899713
Kson collabed with her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66897027
Kotoka. That bitch is a snake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840080
>she was rightfully fired because of muh NDA
I don't give a fuck cover is still a piece of shit all of them should just quit and make a group themselves managements are useless anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>66899374
That's a lot of words to say she's retarded but there are a lot of nonces.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840080
I am tired of the narrative that vtubers are dumb. THEY ARE PLAYING DUMB FOR THE AUDIENCE. YOU FALL FOR IT BECAUSE YOU ARE THE DUMB ONE.

[Anonymous No.]

They found the culprit, it's Kaguya Luna

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840080
Based off her rm now
>Cat died
>Got emotional
>Confided in someone they trusted, said some things she shouldn't have
>Person they trusted couldn't actually be trusted

[Anonymous No.]

>>66901418
Who do you think was the person?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66901418
Someone in the jp vtuber world thats all we know

[Anonymous No.]

nobody posted the 5ch reaction? wanna see the Japanese NDA autism

[Anonymous No.]

>>66901418
>someone abused her trust while she was feeling like shit
Mel can't catch a break, can she
Rape, manager sexual harassment, and now emotional manipulation

[Anonymous No.]

>>66901418
>Person they trusted couldn't actually be trusted
Is this real or a meme, isn't that what Rushia said

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840080
Imagine thinking you know all about someone’s personality from the goofy cartoon character personality that they act out for internet entertainment

[Anonymous No.]

>>66843667
>breaks NDA
>admits to doing so herself
What the hell do you want me to say? Cover should give her a pass for doing the same thing that got Rushia fired? It sucks, but when the woman herself admits she fucked up there isn't anything to say. Actions have consequences and she's a grown ass woman, I'm not her father.

[Anonymous No.]

I came here to laugh at vtumors.
Your faggot crying even breached my youtube algorithm to show another useless trash get axed. I hope some fans hang themselves after realizing what pathetic little faggots you are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66901038
QRD?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66901912
In Rushia's case it was...a dramatuber
Let's just see what will happen next with Mel's case

[Anonymous No.]

>>66900284
If it was Kotoka everyone at Holo probably already know and word will eventually get out. If she has trouble getting sponsorships and collab partners we'll know why.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66901038
How the hell..?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66902362
>>66902675

>>66898664

[Anonymous No.]

>>66902179
It's one thing to acknowledge that it's unfortunate that she got terminated for NDA breach, but it's disgusting to go far and beyond to dehumanize Mel just to make sure Cover is the absolute good guy
Maybe you don't do that, but there are others who did that and that's absolutely disgusting

[Anonymous No.]

>>66902736
Alright, wrap it up. this anon solved it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66843667
You're being very disingenuous. Nijisisters shit on their livers because "she forgot to get permission from managers!" or "she made trash covers that didn't contribute to the branch at all!"
Compare that to Holofags saying "Mel knew the risks, but she still did it"

[Anonymous No.]

>>66844291
I really hope the other girls see Mel's case and realize VCR is poison. Fucking sugar coated trap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840080
All this taught me is that holo girls should not collab or interact with anyone not from hololive. Same shit happened to Rushia, La+(She wasn't terminated but drama), Mori, ollie etc.
The girls need to understand that most indie content creators are either small filled with envy and want to fuck them over because of jealousy or are big and is just using them for content and will fish for leaks or cause drama to make even bigger content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66903351
Holosisters please

[Anonymous No.]

Janny mad

[Anonymous No.]

>>66904065
Suisei and Marine prove you wrong

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>66902736
but i still think the one who stab mel from the back 20% ex-staff from cover, 30% kotoka she just colab 6 days ago, 50% mel chuba friend outside cover.
my gut feeling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66901723
5ch reaction is exactly the same as here. Well, it looks a bit more polite because I'm running it through google translate.

[Anonymous No.]

How much of a shit person do you have to be and go leak what Mel told you, knowing she might get fired?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66905046
Why my post was extreme my point is more so that they should not interact with anyone they haven't already without vetting them to the extreme.
Most of the girls interactions have been with other Vtuber companies,Celebrities, or their artists. All of which have too much to lose.
Interacting with random fleshtubers or indies is the problem. You don't know what their goal is and most of them don't give a damn about the girls besides getting content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66905502
100% pure shit, might even be corporate sabotage depending on who it was that did it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66905502
Seems like the industry is full of awful people. It's like hollywood.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't believe a-chan pretended to be a man just to honeypot talents into leaking nda stuff as a way to test their loyalties.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66905855
they actually would not legally be able to do that, as if that was the case then the nda would not have been broken. I know it was a joke but with all the shit being said right now who knows

[Anonymous No.]

Never tell a woman a secret because 100% it will slip out of her tongue within that week, even if you pinky promised them. I got busted before in office but at least it was just some minor interpersonal secret.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840402
mega based islamic corpo

[Anonymous No.]

>>66905502
Everyone involved is likely just stupid, not malicious. None of them really thought about the consequence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66906116
How can you say shit like this in an industry that is 90% female?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66867410
but never go full retard

[Anonymous No.]

Not gonna lie im surprised of how Cover tamed the fanbase just to accept some bullshit with open arms, I get the breach of the contract but sometimes accidents may happen and take your shit this seriously in a fucking vtuber agency (as if its not a fucking clown talen agency) its stupid, hope cover gets hit by this somehow

[Anonymous No.]

>>66906583
You gotta take NDA breaches seriously. It sucks because it wasn't malicious, but if you don't you aren't really seen as a company worth trusting.

Like imagine your employee stealing credit card info and you don't do shit about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66906583
>>66906743
You have to take NDA seriously because a crazy fan might learn about the real identity of a talent and try to stalk her

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/kuroneko_datenn/status/1747422818701373836

Mel said what she did at second paragraph

"I spilled NDA stuff out to people I trusted when I was going through a difficult time or event in my mental health. I deeply regret that this was an indiscretion."

[Anonymous No.]

>>66902736
Holy based

[Anonymous No.]

>>66905566
Fair enough, but not interacting at all is too xtreme
Suisei has interacted with indies who are not in her friends circle
And I don't know why you think most indies are evil

[Anonymous No.]

>>66905502
What if the snitch is just another retard who think it's a nothingnurger and just thought of it as an exciting info

[Anonymous No.]

>>66908070
>not interacting at all is too extreme
why

[Anonymous No.]

>>66908120
We won't know until/if we found out who it is.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't get it, what are people even accusing Cover of?
I know Mel wasn't the biggest but she was still a net asset, no company would do what Cover did without good reason right? I'm a NEET that's never had a job so far but I'd assume contracts and NDAs are srsbsns in the real world right?
Also isn't a higher rate of terminations a better look for a corp than a higher rate of grads? Since graduating means the talent actually wants to leave. In fact more terminations is prob a bigger tell for the sort of people the holos themselves are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66887129
It happens, but only if you're hot. Same for men and women.
Ugly women in general are just rarer on the internet because those types will get destroyed by other women if they post their own ugly mugs in their socials.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66905046
Those 2 and Aki are pretty experienced career gals who know what they're doing. The other bubbly girls...not so much.

They're too used to the safety of walled garden hololive girls academy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66900576
>a single line of text is too much for me to read
yeah we can tell

[Anonymous No.]

>>66901418
why didn't she confide in any of the Holos?
did she not have any actual friends inside holo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66843667
>>66844132
>>66849163
>>66857303
sister discord finally agreed on their narrative then? took you guys long enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>66902736
kek /jp/ rrats are so easy to spread because no one cares if it's true or asks for sauce.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66909136
She did but those convos would not breach the nda, so it's irrelevant

[Anonymous No.]

>>66906583
first time seeing a professional termination sister?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66909136
They're just coworkers. She has actual friends outside of Hololive, and likely closer friends.

And there's no proof that her friend that she confided in leaked anything. For all we know, Hololive discovered the leaks from Mel to her friend and that was enough for termination.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66901723
Twitter is just as scathing if not more. You simply need to open the QRP's on the announcement tweets.

[Anonymous No.]

why did she get fired??

Whats her instagram/personal twitter??

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840192
She posted about it, it's a fucking dead cat that made her schizo, just like rushia. I don't understand why Japanese girls get schizo when they own a cat, these fuckers wouldn't have a speck of emotion even when you're dying? You want a mentally stable Japanese girl, don't let her have cats, only dogs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66909651
She admitted to bearing my child

[Anonymous No.]

>>66908254
Only schizos are accusing Cover. If what is we know is true, then termination is better than the other options because they are being pressured by a third party, therefore having her immediately terminated is the only viable option. What did she leak that can put that much pressure on them? We have no idea (for now).

[Anonymous No.]

>>66909715
She's covering for her woman moment with the dead cat. This is like classic menhera behaviour. Do you not see the pattern yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66909736
whats all that is known so far

[Anonymous No.]

>>66909449
how she could be found out anyway if she didn't confide in a Japanese dramatuber. That means someone had listened to her private conversations and that's a bit shady honestly.

[Anonymous No.]

>please seethe

[Anonymous No.]

>cover cares more about NDA than the talent
literal black company

[Anonymous No.]

>>66909977
>cover is forced to obey the rules it set in place years ago when someone breaks an NDA.
ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>66902736
I forgive pmarusama.
She is literally funny and cute.

[Anonymous No.]

why people take NDA that serious? it just seems like a corporate scam to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>66849328
>ESL
kys nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>66909977
unemployedchama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>66909977
Get a job before you participate in the conversation, faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66910413
>why do people take contracts seriously?

Are these real people? Is this a nijinigger among us? Only they can be that stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66908254
Just nonholo fans being nonholo fans. Let them rot their brains in whatever narrative they cooled up in their mind, we will still be here 5 years later and they would either turn over a new leaf or kill themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66902736
Yes, it was her. You got her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66872290
Idiots like you are the reason why chinks will soon be extinct. Don't worry. We'll put surviving chinks inside zoos for our children to look atm. Hopefully they won't be too radioactive

[Anonymous No.]

>>66909136
I think it's more likely that she accidentally said something to her friend rather than confided
>>66909859
Maybe her friend is the babblemouth type and her friend accidentally leaked it to the wrong person
I don't know man, but I just hope some fags won't smear Mel's name by saying she doxxed another talent or trying to be malicious
We only know there's an NDA breach committed by Mel and as a result Cover fired her
It could be something as harmless as her schedule that's related to a secret event

[Anonymous No.]

based YAGOD not tolerating contract violating bitches

[Anonymous No.]

>>66907383
So she is guilty
>bu..bu..but cover is a black company, Muh narrative is falling apart

[Anonymous No.]

>>66910639
>>66910870
kill yourself bootlickers

[Anonymous No.]

>>66911589
kys nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>66912007
die corporate rat cover isn't gonna fuck your asshole

[Anonymous No.]

>>66911259
Loose lips sink ships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66910870
This is literally just Jap autism. Companies don't terminate over NDA unless it's something like trade secrets or something that actually harms the profits. I doubt she leaked anything like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66911589
I think its funny that you catalogfags learned a word recently after Millie threw selen under the bus and just decided to use it as much as possible, pretending like the rest of us can't tell what you're trying to do. How's the all out war going for you guys?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66843667
It's really just a case of really bad timing. Very recently prior to this, mel was on the catalogue for the first time in years over the entire male collab arc. she already amassed tourist antis, this just added to the fire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66912180
meds literally mindbroken by vt tribal war

[Anonymous No.]

>>66912353
Ah at the point where you're just hitting the auto fill buzzword button now I see. Well good luck to you I suppose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66912071
neither will Riku let you see his yatch collection or let you suck his phimosis dick
actually go put your head into a woodchipper

[Anonymous No.]

>>66843903
>She made a audio only of her jerking off to Yuri

That sounds like bullshit, but this is Matsuri we’re talking about.

Post it

[Anonymous No.]

>>66858965
Where are these scoring from? A game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66901418
>Confided in someone they trusted, said some things she shouldn't have
That sucks. Work-related gripes should be kept strictly within close family or friends you've known since childhood. No colleagues, no associates, no short-term friends. Those can all come back to bite you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66912353

[Anonymous No.]

>>66905566
Using this "logic", they shouldn't be allowed to interact with anyone they know IRL either

[Anonymous No.]

>>66908254
I get your point about graduations vs terminations, but more terminations than graduations can also mean that the company fails to properly train their talents to avoid anything that would lead to termination. That would suggest that there are more things that the company doesn't do properly and that wouldn't be a good look.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66907383
There it is. Case closed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66849328
kek, good one anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66896221
That was actually me
t. Ruffian who loves fairies

[Anonymous No.]

>>66849328
ywnbaw

[Anonymous No.]

>>66898383
Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66901418
well only question left is if it was some vcr-fag or kotoka

[Anonymous No.]

>>66909449
she wouldnt have said this then
>Person they trusted couldn't actually be trusted

[Anonymous No.]

>>66840080
Sure she is not smart.
She stayed with the company, which had a manager stalk and sexually harass her for months.
Now i dont know if they signed any agreement back then when they settled this shit but iirc the manager was allowed to stay with cover corp but wasnt allowed to work with her anymore.
If i were her my first move would be: Get a lawyer and sue cover corps ass for not taking action in that case back then and not really punishing the manager, who harassed her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66906785
Or you blab about some new line of noodles coming out next month that you already recorded a commercial for and not a single other sponsor touches your company with a ten foot pole. Loose lips, maritime disasters and all that

[Anonymous No.]

>>66923718
you do know they fired that manager, right discordchama?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66905244
English, motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66924787
It is telling that everyone's just assuming that the breach was definitely a huge deal that could have had consequences for the company. Because that's how the action taken gets justified. The reality is nobody knows if this is unbelievably shitty and heavy handed, or if it was the proper course of action to take. Don't slurp so hard on the boot that you assume the company's intrinsically correct.

[Anonymous No.]

The next one is one from Holostars (JP of course)