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66677716 No.66677716 [Reply] [Original]

>completely torch your gachikoi appeal (which you spent months intentionally building up) to form a friend group with D-list nijis and homos
Why? She doesn't even have the flimsy excuse of gaining exposure outside the holobox like she did for VCR GTA. And to think she could have been one of Hololive's sleeper hits.

>> No.66677775

stop giving money to vtubers

>> No.66677859

hololive DEV_IS (pronounced "device") is a branch of Hololive Production. Unlike Hololive Japan or Holostars, DEV_IS is based on growing together as a group and is mainly unit oriented. It features the ReGLOSS subunit.

>> No.66677996

>>66677716
She weighed pandering to the mentally ill for lots of money to not pandering to mentally ill for still lots of money, just a bit less. If you aren't greedy it seems like a easy choice.

>> No.66678129

>>66677996
Which member of nijisanji do you think posted this? My money is on reimu

>> No.66678338

>>66677996
her superchat revenue halved LOL

>> No.66678350

>>66678129
I got no issue with vtubers who do it, but one is objectively easier and less restrictive and if you are in holoJP or EN, you are going to make tons of money regardless of what you do.

>> No.66678501

>>66678350
>say no when asked if you want to collab with male chuubas or ecelebs
How is this difficult? What's funny is that she's still trying to do the gachikoi pandering.

>> No.66678506

>>66677716
>Why?
You should be grateful she went mask off so early. She at least had the heart to chase the gachis away so anyone that stays is implicitly condoning her behavior.

>> No.66678543

This is why EN is best. Jap Man just sent Bae who has nothing to lose.
Come over to EN, Advent is real Hololive now.

>> No.66678690

Eh, just let her spiral. ReGloss was always going to end up doing this type of thing, and choosing to enter VCR at its tail-end was an interesting choice. Her drunken honesty at least ripped the bandaid off, so she can’t complain if it doesn’t actually work out.

>> No.66678697

>>66677716
>watch NTR company
>act surprised when NTR happens

>> No.66678716

>>66678543
>Come over to EN, Advent is real Hololive now.
collabs with trannies and Niji EN are real Hololive?

>> No.66678822

>>66678350
I always see this narrative from starsfags, it’s not hard to simply not collab with males, it is literally just as easy as collabing with them… where does this perceived difficulty come from?

>> No.66678827

>>66678697
No one brought up Phase Connect, Vshojo, idol, or Nijisanji, anon.

>> No.66678884

>>66678716
Miles better than collabing with fucking holostars lmao

>> No.66678910

>>66678350
>they’ll make a fuck ton of money anyways
Kronii would beg to differ, literally the only holoEN chuuba to have to reannounce her merch because no one bought it (plus there was that glitch on the merch website that revealed her and mori have the lowest merch sales out of anyone by a significant margin, like less then half as much)

>> No.66678967

>>66677716
The fuck is with all of you, would your really want to fuck your role playing dad and brother?

>> No.66678969

Pomu left the company because of how shit it is
Selen has been radio silent for 2 weeks

>> No.66679009

>>66678827
>implying NTRlive is better than any of those
This thread is literally about a gachi panderer turning into a serial male collaber within months of debut

>> No.66679065

>>66678910
>plus there was that glitch on the merch website that revealed her and mori have the lowest merch sales out of anyone by a significant margin, like less then half as much
Anon, if you are talking about birthday merch from last year, Mori had the highest and her's was the only one that was still available for sale when they fixed the glitch so ti would of only gotten higher. But yeah Kronii's was the lowest by a large margin.

>> No.66679111

>>66678501
She’s like bae, she wants to have her cake and eat it too, collabing with homos while still having gachikoi fans who buy all your merch and donate hundreds of dollars… it didn’t work for bae either, she is a runt, knows she is a runt, and is upset about that fact… but it’s solely her fault for making content that people didn’t want

>> No.66679116

>>66678884
Only a matter of time for Nerissa and Bijou. The former has already collabed with a male and the latter is too influenced by Mori and ID to avoid them forever.

>> No.66679177

>>66678969
Neither of them are members of ReGLOSS. Why are you bringing them up?

>> No.66679274

>>66679116
Nerissa literally said she would not bring her own brother on stream because fans would not like it. Quit coping, her oshi is kiara, who has explicitly said she doesn’t want to collab with holostars as well

>> No.66679392

>>66679116
>tumor weaks posting so BTFO that beggars have had to switch targets from shiori to nerissa/biboo

>> No.66679414

>>66679274
and then she went and did a collab with a man who pretends to be a woman
>Quit coping

>> No.66679457

>>66679177
There seems to be a increase of seetheposts whenever that gets posted in a hololive bait thread. I'm just doing my public service

>> No.66679470

>>66677716
>And to think she could have been one of Hololive's sleeper hits.
Fuck off retard, her viewers were shit since debut, pandering to unicuckolds wasn't working out and she knew it.

>> No.66679562

>>66679470
How’s that panning out for her now?

>> No.66679565

>>66679470
Her lunch streams were gaining steam and she cut their CCV in half by the time VCR GTA was over

her SC revenue is still on the higher side for hololive because of the cucks who stayed but it also plummeted from the pre-VCR GTA highs

>> No.66679610

>>66679009
>serial male collaber
do nijikeks really?

>> No.66679613

>b-but advent
lmao jpcuck in shambles

>> No.66679661

>>66679457
Not everything is about Nijisanji. Hololive is the superior company but sometimes standards need to be enforced within as well.

>> No.66679668

>>66679470
She had genuine potential, she's going to be fucking overtaken by Ao with his ugly as fuck model.

>> No.66679761

>>66679661
This was what Omega thought, that he could turn Holo into Niji and the cucks would stay because blue triangle better than blue pac man. Thankfully he was thwarted.

>> No.66679790

They're ReGloss not Hololive they're not obligated to pander to schizos on 5ch lol

>> No.66679810

>>66679661
They should stop having hololive live rent free in their heads then and start shitting on their company that makes their "oshis" lives miserable instead of deflecting

>> No.66679879

>>66677716
Get filtered, idiot

>> No.66679913

>>66679668
Ao is in the collab too dumbass
If Ririka can't be successful without doing ear licking ASMR for incels like everyone else in Hololive apparently does that's her problem

>> No.66679929

>>66679810
>Asking chinners to be a good person instead of trying to drag everyone down to their level
It'd be a miracle if it ever happened.

>> No.66679940

>>66679562
Fine? Her numbers are literally the same.
>>66679565
>but the lunch streams
The lunch streams only trended a few times, which was when they were being featured in Yahoo News. They're still doing fine even taking into account that she's run out of ideas for them.
>>66679668
That's because Ao inclined to the moon, who was also in VCR btw.

>> No.66679955

>>66679414
in that logic you need to sperg out about IRyS and Kiara too
but you have to watch streams instead of being just a Nerissa schizo

>> No.66679995

>>66679810
>Holo fans shouldn't have standards for their own talents because niji is worse

>>66679879
Oh no I might miss an among us collab with a dozen people I don't give a shit about

>> No.66680016

>>66679913
>Ear licking ASMR like everyone in Hololive
So we just lying now huh

>> No.66680084

>>66677716
She already burnt her goodwill. Stop acting surprised about it and spamming threads, this is her new norm.

>> No.66680136

>>66680084
I had a sliver of hope that she realized the gachikoi who pay her bills didn't like VCR GTA and she'd dial it back after that ended

>> No.66680151

I don't care, JP Nijisanji is full of funny people.

>> No.66680150

>>66678501
>>66678822
I wonder what the male would think if the holo turned him down.

>> No.66680181

>>66679913
its amazing how confident you are despite being factually incorrect

>> No.66680205

>>66679955
Every example you can bring up about IRyS is sponsor-related. Such is considered compulsory to her job.

>> No.66680224

>>66678129
I'll go with Enna. Nut the most I can bet is 2%.

>> No.66680244

>>66680151
she's collabing with NijiEN, that makes it even more embarrassing

>> No.66680302

>>66680244
>Meloco and Reimu

They're fine

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>>66680151

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>>66677859
>hololive DEV_IS (pronounced "device") is a branch of Hololive Production
This is phrased VERY poorly. DEV_IS is a branch of Hololive, like JP, EN, and ID. You shouldn't say it's a branch of Hololive production because it implies that it's its own thing like Hololive or Holostars. But it's not. It is a branch of Hololive.

>> No.66680976

>>66678822
>It's not that hard to call people they/them or respect their pronouns
You unicorns are day by day becoming more reminiscent of twitter mobs

>> No.66681053

>>66680205
IRyS was the one who approached Tamaki and it wasn't sponsored.

>> No.66681091

>>66680976
Where did you concoct this faggotry from?

>> No.66681154

>>66679111
>Comparing Bae to Ririka
Shame on you, it wasn't enough that you are completely wrong about Bae

>> No.66681164

>>66681053
>Tamaki
That's doesn't count, and you know it.

>> No.66681201

>>66681053
>>>>>>
Okay, you got a chuckle out of me.

>> No.66681230

>>66678910
The window being extended had nothing to do with homo collabs: it was a combination of her being unable to shill it properly since she was out on surgery recovery, a lack of limited sets which a lot of people will chomp at the bit to get initially (which probably would have happened if she didn't have to duck out of the original initial trip with the rest of the Promise girls because of her kitten passing away unexpectedly), and the fact her merch in particular suffered fucking hard from Cover switching around how they handled their shipping at the time. You're going to be hard pressed to find most people being cool with paying more on the merch shipping than the merch itself: I remember seeing people say the merch was like $90 and the shipping was in the ballpark of $140-$160 even if they went the Geekjack route.

>> No.66681462

>>66681091
Because you lot are literally the same? an overgrown child throwing a tantrum because someone isn't doing the thing you want when you have the choice to watch those who do. Stick to chuubas you want to watch and stop smearing the ones who do it differently and maybe I'll reconsider my opinion about you pathetic unicorns, as for now euthanizing you lot is the only cure.

>> No.66681505

>>66677716
Why keep making threads about Ririka? Yes, it's strange that she pandered hard to gachikois only to do a 180 out of nowhere but she's made her intentions clear at this point and she's not going to stop. Those who want no male collabs or interactions have already left her, as seen with her making less money than before her VCR GTA spree. The only ones who still watch her now are those who are fine with it. I don't understand why threads about this need to keep being made.

>> No.66681506

>>66681230
>the window being extended had NOTHING to do with homo collabs
>it was because it sold poorly
cutting analysis as always.

>> No.66681737

>>66677716
Regloss was interacting with Holostars before their debut. There were already signs the new branch was going to support HoloPro unity more than Hololive. Why did anyone expect Regloss to pander to unicorns?

>> No.66681967

>>66681737
How do we get Person A fired like Omega? Just out Regloss under Japsama

>> No.66682046

>>66681967
This anon is a certified Japsama cumdrinker

>> No.66682136

>>66682046
>t. homobeggar

>> No.66682180

Thread full of ASS sniffing NIGGERS

>> No.66682202

>>66682136
What? I was praising you, keep drinking Japsama's cum since you love milking his cock

>> No.66682436

>>66677716
Because they're her friends.

>> No.66682516

>>66678338
You need to find a more fulfilling career if you think money is end all to all jobs. If you’ve ever had a job that is

>> No.66682568

>>66677859
they shouldve just been Hololive JP gen 7

>> No.66682813

>>66677716
are all unicorns just ultra cucks? can't even get over this one whore and spam post about her everyday

>> No.66682841

>>66682568
nah many jp are problematic
just need CGDCT manager

>> No.66682927

>>66681462
Holy cope

>> No.66683033

>>66682813
What is this logic? The people who specifically do not like being cucked… are cucks? What sort of backwards ass logic is this? Are you just projectingn your cuckold fetish onto us?

>> No.66683123

>>66682841
>problematic
Oh wow unikeks are starting to use SJW terminology. As if they couldn't get more pathetic
>>66683033
There is no bigger cuckold than unicorns, I've never seen a supposed grown straight man talk more about cuckoldry and project it onto others as much as a unicorn does, the fact they are still to this day talking about Ririka and calling her fans cucks proves that

>> No.66683268

>>66683123
oh no sister you said cuck in every single post so you’re the cuck now by your own rules. rest in piss I guess.

>> No.66683301

>>66677716
Because Japanese Unicorns are bad at their job. They were basically begging the Holo girls to do more male collabs.
The only ones that can save Ririka now are EOPs.

>> No.66683304

>>66683123
you're the one who WANTS to see your women talk to other men

>> No.66683305

>>66677716
But the one been gangbanged by holostars is Reimu

>> No.66683352

>>66683123
>calling cucks 'cucks' makes you a cuck
wat

>> No.66683384

I am a unicorn but i don't get why the need to turn everyone into gfe. There is plenty of unicorn safe holos. Just move on and watch them? It's kinda boring if everyone is the same archetype.

>> No.66683402

>>66677716
Looking at her stats, her viewership looks pretty much exactly the same before VCR GTA as it does after, so did it really matter?

>> No.66683449

>>66683268
>One post vs unicorns talking about cuckoldry 24/7
Says a lot
>>66683304
>>66683352
>If a man talks to a women, you are a cuck
That has never been how it works, not wanting to see that type of content is fine but saying this much is cuckoldry is factually incorrect, unicorns are obsessed with cuckoldry though so it's not like it's gonna stop them from parading their fantasies

>> No.66683454

>>66683384
not even a new IP, try harder please

>> No.66683541

>>66683449
you sure seem obsessed with cucking yourself, cuck

>> No.66683545

>>66683454
Is this cope, literally my first post in this thread.

>> No.66683562

>>66683301
its funny the japs are so bad at their own culture

>> No.66683925

>>66683545
Quit falseflagging, you’re not fooling anybody

>> No.66683989

>>66683384
Least obvious starsfag

>> No.66684231

>>66683925
>>66683989
Whatever makes you delusional anons happy i guess. Coco was right, something went wrong with eops and they turn way toxic than average jp viewers.

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People seething at Ririka and Ao succeeding despite collabing with males is hilarious.

>> No.66684841

>>66684231
Small dog syndrome, the mentally ill manchildren /here/ especially from the /#/ thread samefag and astroturf to give the illusion they are bigger than they actually are

>> No.66684897

>>66684837
>people
It's a bit too generous to call them people, these creatures have forgotten what it's like to be a human and have become shit smearing seethe machines

>> No.66685027

>>66680720
If this is your point about why it shouldn't be a homo-friendly branch, the only thing that matters to anyone is if it's part of Hololive (the group next to it) and not Hololive (the grouping above it). Because HoloID is the same-tier as Dev_Is and has also always been a homo-obsessed branch that also streams with countless d-tier streamers you've never heard of and every other vtubing company but Hololive.

>> No.66685117

>>66684837
>reclining is succeeding
interesting definition

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>>66685117
The only reclining that's happening is the girls in their seats as they banter and talk with males that aren't (You)

>> No.66685333

>>66680302
They are not fine. They are clearly leaching for jap views. The original gang with Aria, Touko, Ririka, Ao & Aruran was great. Reimu and Meloco are only there clout chasing.

>> No.66685409

>>66685270
Also their numbers are reclining

>> No.66685515

>>66685333
Can they speak jap? Yes? Then they're fine.
It's only the clearly obvious EOP's that aren't.

>> No.66685621

>>66685515
They are redundant. All the good parts of Pizza Gang didn't involved them.

>> No.66685738

>>66677716
I don't watch females who collab with males and look down on their supporters. But I have to believe the most betrayed fanbase in this whole thing has to be Aruran's (if they even still exist). He had like some friendly oji-san character for more years than most of Hololive has existed but he's a numberfag and threw that whole character away to be a young, popular guy and now he's just making content with any random slut he can leech off of.

>> No.66685831

>>66680150
Unless it's a particularly menhera male, nothing.
Some StarsJP (namely, Oga and Astel) have said several times that they knew collabing with Hololive (JP) wouldn't help either them or the girls and at worst, would bring troubles to both. They said they wouldn't initiate collab with the girls unless the other side approach them first.

>> No.66685843

>>66678822
It's also not hard to simply not be a little bitch yet look who's crying.
>>66685409
Just because you say something doesn't make it true, no matter how much you cope.

>> No.66685858

>>66685738
If you work well with someone, you go for it. He still has that oji-san aspect, considering how he constantly tutors and pokes fun at Ao with math. At this point, it's mostly just that they've made a friend group that they're comfortable collabing with.

>> No.66685938

>>66685843
>Just because you say something doesn't make it true
Didn't Ririka used to get over 4k CCV?That seems like a decline.

>> No.66685960

>>66685738
Your belief would be misplaced. Aruran's fanbase are happy seeing him finally being recognized and having fun.
You're delusional if you think they're betrayed at a guy talking with females.

>> No.66686389

>>66681506
Yes? None of the reasons I listed had anything to do with them, unless you're so peabrained that you can't fathom that a cost might be prohibitive for some folks to bite the bullet that and it's hard to top her merch from last year.

>> No.66686567

>>66685960
This is why I don’t believe homobeggars when they say male vtuber fans don’t want the collabs either. They’re all just waiting for their chance, there is nothing they want more than to see their favorite homo interacting with the girls so they can ship them.

>> No.66686780

>>66685960
They were certainly unhappy here when he got the redesign but it's possible you are talking about any fans he had after the redesign. Or maybe you're right that Homofans all have serious relationship issues and will just take the abuse which does seem to be the case given the whole Tempus thing.

>> No.66687004

>>66685831
To be fair, they weren't allowed to initiate collabs. Dev_is is the first female branch to be completely offered up to the boys before they even debuted. But a lot of Hololive girls who would collab with males if asked are kept from that simply because the males can't even get to them. That's why the collabs happen with girls who seek out the males and certain girls only appear in those when another girl brings them along. That means those girls aren't against male collabs but would never initiate them.

>> No.66687323

>>66686780
Being unhappy with a redesign =/= being unhappy with collabing with females. Has nothing to do with the topic being discussed.
>>66686780
You think people who are capable of watching males and females interact have "serious relationship issues"?
Any 'abuse' you think is happening is entirely self-inflicted by delusional and emotionally stunted individuals.

>> No.66687368

2 strikes and she's out. very sad but wcyd

>> No.66687464

>>66687323
The motivation for the redesign is the same as the motivation for the collabs. You are clearly very emotionally unstable and I understand why but there are many streamers you could watch instead if you just liked regular male/female interactions. So no need to lie to yourself.

>> No.66687537

>>66683301
No one ask me to explain this. Basically, Japanese fans always said that the reason they didn't like male collabs is because it makes them jealous and it makes them jealous except when it doesn't. This makes the Holo member's goal to avoid making their audience jealous. Then, the Holo members take one look at their chat is filled with dedicated simps that will watch anything the Holo members produces. Then, add to that that the JP's side heavily, and somewhat legally, encourages toxic positivity. When you lay it out, it becomes obvious why the JPs have increased male collabs so much.
On the EN side, fans denied the idea that their was a direct connection between being in love with your oshi and not liking male collabs. Instead they gave CGDCT as the explanation. This made the EN members goal to avoid male collabs.

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>>66687464
The best you could retort with was "no u"?
You're hilarious, anon.

>> No.66687984

Ririka should embrace being the villain of regloss, go full evil deceptive chuuba. It will unironically be kino and i will be hatefucking her.

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>>66679668
you are a faggot

>> No.66688907

>>66677716
Go do a stream, anon. Let's see if you can pull off a 4K. You would NEVER, you know no one's going to watch you, even if it's on a vtuber avatar. Why? because there is nothing good about you, your entire existence is ugly as fuck.

>> No.66689048

>>66687004
>they weren't allowed to initiate collabs

That's not true. Literally no one has ever implied or even hinted they're forbidden from initiating collabs, they literally just don't do it because they know better and it's common sense not to.

>> No.66689355

>>66677716
Reflop isn't hololive and it's your fault for watching a branch that was specifically made to cater to foids. Might as well start watching Homostars.

>> No.66689563

>>66677716
she's a nice girl, don't be mean to her.

>> No.66689600

Every time unicorns insist they are feeding them and without them they would die poor in a ditch and then the girl does fine anyway. And then the unicorns get even madder, and in their confirmation bias, start clinging to some slight reclines and hailing it as the end of her career. They cling to the imaginary power fantasy that they have over them.

If you think about it, they're kinda like toxic abusive parents who say you're not allowed to disobey them because without them you are nothing.

>> No.66689626

>>66689563
Dropping her for a change in content isn't being mean, either.

>> No.66689720

>>66689626
gossiping like bitchy old women is though. I'm sure your father is proud.

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>>66689720
Sure - that doesn't apply to me then.

>> No.66689801

>>66677716
*rapes and beheads you*

>> No.66689855

>>66689758
backseat managing is the same as gossiping no matter how you try to dress it up.

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>>66677716
Quietly leaving a membership/dropping a vtuber whose activities are no longer what I signed up for is in no way backseat managing, and sharing my opinion on here (without indulging in talk about the vtuber herself) is not gossiping.
You are being incredibly hostile and defensive for no discernible reason.

>> No.66689993

>>66689600
>Every time unicorns insist they are feeding them and without them they would die poor in a ditch and then the girl does fine anyway.
Kek. Literally every single time a girl courts unicorns and then burns them their career takes a steep downturn. It's already happening with Ririka.

>> No.66690498

>>66689955
>Quietly leaving
>sharing my opinion on here
at least quote the person you're replying to coward

>> No.66690606

>>66689955
It’s because you HAVE to like it. da boiz are hololive too, and if you don’t like seeing your oshi interact with them you should be jealous of other chat members as well. In fact, if you don’t like homocollabs you should be bothered by collabs with holos, because they’re interacting without you. If that doesn’t make sense you’re a crazy insecure toxic unicorn virgin gachikoi incel cuck.

>> No.66690713

>>66690606
drop them if you want, just spare us the announcement, we care less than your parents.

>> No.66690751

>>66677859
So it's the branch that isn't expected to get views of make money, cool.

>> No.66690822

>>66680150
They're second class citizens in the holo world so they would do well to shut the fuck up and keep their heads down.

>> No.66690858

>>66689993
>tards act like super hat drops is meaningful and will likely ignore February if it goes up.
>Unikeks will also say gura superchat being 0 basically doesn’t matter because merch
Yeah ririka isn’t gura but she’s not going to beg for forgiveness when it’s proven time and again unicorns will stay on until a guy fucks her in front of them (Kronies crawling back for one) and the girls can make a fine living with the dorito+delusional

>> No.66690932

>>66682202
At least someone gets dick, right sis?

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>>66677716
I swear one holo need to be killed as an example for playing with gachikoi feeling

>> No.66691301

>>66690713
you seem to care a whole lot sis, you’ve been raging up and down this whole board for years about it.

>> No.66691451

>>66691301
>you seem to care a whole lot sis
About vtubers, yeah, because I'm not an ironic weeb like you. Couldn't give less of a fuck about you or your opinion though, no need to spread it over the board like it's your tumblr.

>> No.66691594

>>66691451
This is a vtuber discussion board. We’re discussing vtubers, what we do and do not enjoy, and the repercussions of content choices. You’re raging about that because your preferences are unpopular; ironically enough, you’d probably be the one who’d have a better time on social media.

>> No.66691713

>>66691594
>Quietly leaving a membership/dropping a vtuber whose activities are no longer what I signed up for is in no way backseat managing
>We’re discussing vtubers, and the repercussions of content choices
At least try and be consistent. If you want to gossip, be honest, no need to lie to yourself.

>> No.66691838

>>66689993
You are conflating burning unicorns with the vtuber herself being a menhera. While these things are in some ways related, the career downturn is because of the latter, never the former. Because all of the girls who homocollab but aren't menheras never have any issues with their standing. This is also why "unicorn-friendly" menheras like Kiara perform poorly but male-loathing stacy's like Suisei are beloved.

>> No.66691899

>>66691713
what? how is chatting about vtubers on 4chan backseat managing? are you ok sister?

>> No.66691941

>>66677716
where is my goddamn ASMR

>> No.66692107

>>66677716
>Why?
To give management satisfaction that they owned the boogeyman incel.
That's pretty much it.
If you think there is any logic or business-sense behind it you are dumb as a brick.

>> No.66692214

>>66691838
>all of the girls who homocollab but aren't menheras never have any issues with their standing
Nobody really hates on Bae because she was upfront about being a homocollaber when she debuted but she's still a permanent runt because of it. Male collabs hurt every girl who engages in them and some may get hurt worse than others but they still all get hurt. If Suisei never collabed with males then she'd be even more successful than she is now.
>This is also why "unicorn-friendly" menheras like Kiara perform poorly
>poorly
Kiara is one of the top earners in EN.

>> No.66692283

Ririka did nothing wrong.

>> No.66692446

>>66679116
The only ID she's close with is Kaela who is the only ID that doesn't do male collabs

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>>66678827

>> No.66692547

>>66681053
no one tell him

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What is with these constant Ririka threads seething about her doing a few male collabs?
She's actually a nice girl but /vt/ has suddenly flipped to acting like she's doing raw NTR.
What level of mental illness is this? Is this just some nijisister deflection tactic at this point?

>> No.66692992

>>66692214
>nooooo, reality is what I claim it is and anything that contradicts can be explained away through hand-waving!
Kiara is the perfect example of why your claims are retarded, she is your pinnacle of what the floor is guaranteed to be if you pander endlessly but no healthy female wants her life. When you say, "vtubers must be like Kiara if they want a cushion when they fail", it's obvious almost nobody actually is enticed by that ultimatum. It's like telling someone you either have to cut your income in half or kill your best friend and then you feign shock when they chose to halve the income.

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>>66692770
male collabs bad

>> No.66693111

>>66692770
/vt/ will never understand that to be meanginful NTR, you have to have not been a total whore from the start. They are always crying about girls like Ririka and Kronii who any healthy male wouldn't have ever touched with a ten-foot pole.

>> No.66693443

>>66693111
I think for it to actually be NTR, she'd had to have actually done something remotely close to NTR.
The act of speaking words to a male that aren't remotely sexual is not NTR.

>> No.66693577

>>66678716
Nerissa is just another version of kiara but with more talent

>> No.66695424

>>66679116
By your logic irys should have fallen long ago

>> No.66696099

>>66681462
I see this argument posted all the time and I have to ask; why is it not fine for unicorns to complain about girls who want to homocollab, but it's fine for homobeggars to complain about girls who don't want to homocollab?

>> No.66696181

>>66690932
Grats on coming out

>> No.66696278

>>66696099
Literally when do they complain? Seems to me every male collab has a unicorn shitting bricks but I don't see that from Homobeggars.
>Hurr durr Kanata
Congratulations that was a year ago. You've got one thing they were complaining about compared to the shit threads that flood this board everytime there's a homocollab

>> No.66696417

>>66693443
Unicorns won't be able to answer your question and continue deflecting with calling you a cuck because they are fully aware that there is no act of NTR being committed here
These same Unicorns will actually continue to supply condom money to lazy "CGDCT" chuubas who go on month long breaks every other month and bury their head away from the sound of them getting plapped while screaming at pure girls who actually care about their fans but dared to talk to Men in a non-flirtatious manner

This is the ultimate hilarity of Unicorns

>> No.66696487

>>66692770
>she's a nice girl
Have you been living under a rock or what? Out of touch, arrogant quotes toward the gachis tend to be the herald of a chuuba's decline

>> No.66696646

>>66677716
1. apply to hololive
2. get hired into a unit that is expected to male collab
3. debut
4. refuse to male collab.
I will remind you that the majority of dev_is haven't collabed yet. I'm not saying they won't, but for now only two members have committed fully to this route.

>> No.66696696

>>66682516
Keep moving the goalposts tranigger mongrel kek

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>>66696278
Every other day theres a new Kiara thread on catalog and most of those have people shitting on her because of the "bummer I guess" phrase.
I find it funny, because she was the most respectful of the girls. When Tempus was to debut, she said to her fans to check them out if they want and that she would hope for their success since they're in Cover. She was also the only one to mention their graduation. Yet, shes one of the main targets of people that believe in the invisible gun.

>> No.66697411

I hope all unicorns get help for their mental illnesses. I hope you all get jobs and learn that money isn't everything, sex isn't everything, people are not mono-goal caricatures who seek to complete their nefarious, selfish objectives at all costs. Everyone is muddling through this life as best as they can, juggling different priorities at different times.

>> No.66697676

>>66697411
Preach sister

>> No.66698219

>>66678690
>Her drunken honesty at least ripped the bandaid off
timestamp?

>> No.66698402

>>66697411
>Everyone is muddling through this life as best as they can, juggling different priorities at different times.
I should care about this because...?

>> No.66698523

>>66698402
Just slit your throat and die anon, no one love you

>> No.66699536

It's not NTR because she was never yours to begin with.

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>>66677716
I like Ririka and also Ao they are funny!
Actually ReGloss might be comedians...

>> No.66700193

>>66692283
as someone disgusted by unicorns and isn't mentally ill enough to think i'm being sold a relationship by these women, yes, she did. it was the behavior after of treating her audience like they were stupid when the unicorns initially lost their minds that was an actual fuckup. Because after that she'd fucked up with the unicorns and the grown-ass adults.
if she'd done nothing wrong, she'd be treated like ao, and clearly she isn't.

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>>66680720
??

>> No.66700623

Why are you people so threatened?

>> No.66700736

>>66689993
>It's already happening with Ririka.
Except it doesn't.

>> No.66700808

>Used to watch her
>This happen
>Unsub and unmember
Move on
Easy

>> No.66700886

>>66700808
This.
To me she peaked when she was playing AC6 and lunch time streams.

>> No.66700889

>>66692283
You do realize you can support the retardation of your oshi while still acknowledging she made mistakes, right? Nobody takes you fuckwits seriously when you support someone for two contradictory stances they took as if both were correct. Backtracking on something doesn't have to be "wrong" but then that means the thing you did that you thought better of was wrong.

>> No.66701136

>>66698219
She was not drunk, she was roleplaying. And she never was really a GFE pander. She is and always be Le quirky girl.

>> No.66701162

>>66677716
>EOP faggots will be purged
Oh good, I will now watch.

>> No.66701484

>>66701162
No you won't.

>> No.66701517

>>66692770
>What level of mental illness is this?
First day on /vt/? Don't go to this board if you expect posts to make sense

>> No.66701542

>>66700193
Ao is funny, that's the difference.

>> No.66701575

>>66701542
>anon talking about the differences in how they're treated
>ao funny
so now nobody knows what your argument is and you look retarded.

>> No.66701702

>>66701575
Ao is treated better because she is not 100% pure gachikoi bait. You can watch her for the funny despite the male collabs and that's respectable. Ririka has nothing going for her and leaned into pandering because of that until she got tired of pretending I guess.

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>>66701484
Bet.

>> No.66702404

At least she did it early instead of cynically hanging on for a year and milking the anniversary and birthday like Kronii did.

>> No.66702415

>>66702350
Holy shit, one of the 280k people who don't watch her!

>> No.66702625

>>66677716
don't you guys get tired of the same bait every day?

>> No.66702874

>>66702625
if they did /vt/ would be a ghost town.

>> No.66704171

>>66696487
>she said bad quotes!
>doesn't write said quotes
While i've been living under a rock, you've apparently been living with people throwing rocks at your head.

>> No.66704431

Extremely retarded low quality thread. OP is a fag and should die

>> No.66704456

>>66704171
Whatever help sleep at night.

>> No.66704880

>>66704171
or they just don't care to spoonfeed people on an anonymous image board where nobody ever gives ground after getting new information. not doing your research for you isn't a concession on their part, especially when this topic has been on timeloop every day for fucking weeks and all sides are tired of repeating themselves.

>> No.66705820

>>66697411
>sex isn't everything
And yet every argument you have against unicorns ultimately boils down to "get laid, chuddie"

>> No.66705882

Ririka had potential, it's sad that she ended up a sidekick for the stars, oh well

>> No.66705911

>>66704171
The quote has been reposted often in these threads but you do you if you wanna pretend the quote never exist, Sister

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>>66677716
>completely torch your gachikoi appeal
She learned from the best

>> No.66706036

>>66706003
superior at what

>> No.66706138

>>66704456
If this helps me sleep at night, I'm sure seething about some girl who collabs with males occasionally all day helps tuck you in on those cold lonely nights.

>>66704880
Yes, i'm sure that would work really well in the court room
>Your honor, this man is guilty
>Please present the evidence
>kek i'm not gonna spoonfeed you
Post proof or fuck off back to your discord.

>> No.66706188

>>66706138
i don't know (or care) what proof is even being asked for, i was just explaining why you aren't owed an explanation for being a lazy shitstirrer.

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>>66706036
yes
Verification not required.

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This thread is utter garbage. Retards like OP should be executed for being so stupid.

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>>66677716
Ririka lowered her value so the superior Regloss could rise up, Ao was the real sleeper hit of her gen.

>> No.66706395

>>66706003
I still don't understand people who gachikoi Suisei
>says for nth time that she doesn't care for them and will never reciprocate their feelings, so they should either just stay as fans or find another oshi to match their feelings
>"nooooooooooo you don't understand you need to read between the lines, she's just tsundere!"
Like, these kind of people can be freely smacked with hammer on their heads and they'd be fine because there are no brains inside their heads

>> No.66706469

>>66706395
and even after she gets outed twice for having a boyfriend they still rush to her defense like brave little city state police.
she absolutely do not understand the appeal, especially all the EOPs.

>> No.66706751

>>66705911
>The quotes are there but they go to another school.
Gonna ask you again, mate. Post the quotes. Burden of proof is on you.

>> No.66706790

>>66706138
>seething
Me? What are you talking about?

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>>66706751
Fine, I'll spoonfeed you, now shut up

>> No.66706827

>>66706188
>I have no proof
There you go. lad. We got there in then.

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>>66706821
So all the seethe is just unicorn insecurity and schizo babble created from thin air. Got it.
I look forward to the next "why did Ririka do it bros" thread same time tomorrow.

>> No.66707063

>>66706994
>got proof, didn't concede any ground at all like anon said
drink piss

>> No.66707306

This thread is a circus

>> No.66707413

>>66707306
Poruka oruka?

>> No.66708232

>>66706994
>u-uh it's still your fault chuddie!
pathetic

>> No.66708400

>>66706994
and of course rats like you scurry away at the sight of something you can't weasel your way through.
and in future threads I'm sure your idiot self will ask the same "w-where's le proof" over and over again

>> No.66708782

>>66707063
>>66708232
>>66708400
>absolutely seething
kwab

>> No.66708913

>>66708782
don't drag me into this because you're mad you got called out for being lazy. you're as much a piece of shit as these delusional unicorns because you reinforce bad arguments just to rile people up. you're transparently clueless even when spoonfed.

>> No.66709198

One of the most retarded threads made

>> No.66709556

I'm reporting this hateful thread to the Cover/Anycolor joint task force

>> No.66709574

>>66709556
did anything ever come out of that actually

>> No.66709884

>>66709574
would they tell us if they did? lots of people get sued for criticism and all you (mostly) hear is the summary reports. i think they're more concerned with critics seeing the sword rattling than they are the executions.

>> No.66709948

>>66709556
They can't do shit unless you're in Japan, and even then only if it's actual falsehoods rather than expressing disdain

>> No.66710016

>>66709884
>summary reports
oh yeah those, also I don't think allying themselves with the retards who made roa stop streaming to build a case that they lost anyway will be of any help to cover

>> No.66710064

>>66709948
no, they absolutely do not need to be actual falsehoods for them to pursue civil action. which is why you hear about how retarded the japanese corporate chilling effect is. slander/defamation does not have to be true in japan like it does in most of the west.

>> No.66710178

>>66710064
whats this nigger bs. you have no clue.

>> No.66710236

>>66710178
>new ip says "no" with no argument
literally just google. like, 3 words picked at random from that post and you'd maybe have to click twice.

>> No.66710498

>>66710236
what the fuck are you even talking about? sounds just like a super blanket statement. you are sued because you bitch about hololive? you seem to believe japan is nk or somewhere. you are only sued if the victim decides it.

>> No.66710768

>>66710498
He's right you retard
But he's also retarded for thinking this affects everyone outside Japan in any way

>> No.66710891

All these jap girls are the same. They are whores who love tiny jap dick, but they have to act lesbian so they can get money. Ririka doesn't want to hide it anymore

>> No.66710909

>>66710178
Just read up on Japanese slander laws, whether your negative public statement on X or wherever is true or not doesn't matter as far as their laws go.
Whenever you read a public statement from a Japanese vtuber company about "taking action towards social media harrasment" after some drama, it's pretty much a soft threat telling people to stop talking about it.

>> No.66711175

>>66710768
huh? how is he right. cover/anycolour cant sue or do anything to you without a victim. if ririka thinks this thread is defamation to her and decided to sue you, you can be, but otherwise no. even if the task force took this thread seriously and policed you hard, all they would be able to do first is warn you at most.

>> No.66711270

>>66711175
You're making the same mistake for using that example
They can't do shit to people outside Japan, but they could easily track people posting on 5ch or whatever because most of their ISPs have static IPs and these tech illiterate nips can't use VPNs to save their life

>> No.66711279

>>66710909
only if ririka does want it no matter what. if she doesnt see it as a problem, nothing happens. you talk about everything without her existence.

>> No.66711355

>>66711270
>They can't do shit to people outside Japan
this is like inb4. anyone who doesnt know it is just an asshole.

>> No.66711383

>>66689600
Yeah I wouldn't want to wish an audience of unicorns on my worst enemies

>> No.66711904

>>66692770
when regloss was getting culled ririka was getting hit extra hard. anons here rallied behind her to try and help get her to 100k subs after she did an endurance stream and ended with less subs than she started with. ririka was a fan favorite /here/ because of saviorfags. then she did a drinking stream and her mask slipped, and she insulted her viewers saying she can do whatever she wants and her supporters will forgive her. a lot of those saviorfags have become antis after that and now are hoping she fails.

>> No.66712047

>>66682516
considering how consumerist women are let alone an Asian woman. then yeah she wants the money.

>> No.66712316

>>66706138
Watch streams, retard

>> No.66712740

... None of you even knows how much SC money she still gets, huh?
>completely torch your gachikoi appeal
Still writing fanfics, I see

>> No.66713446

>>66683301
Not to be an apologist, but to be fair nip unicorns are against jo normalfags who love unity and ALSO western fags who don't even watch stream but love screaming about muh unicorns bad muh terrible japanese culture
And they're not that many so it must be hard for them kek
Like at least the jp audiencie have no power here, but western homobeggars are like the police of the world, like america

>> No.66714743

>>66711904
i mean not even just saviorfags and not all the way to anti. but she does get a lot of criticism now than she did before, so when a real anti kicks up embers, there's plenty of much quieter people to help fan that flame. many smaller voices joining just a handful of fruitcakes. ao has the fruitcakes and their embers, but nothing fanning the flames.

>> No.66715013

maybe she doesn't care about the money and keeping up a facade

>> No.66715084

>>66715013
>doesn't care about the money
>literally said she doesn't want unicorns to leave

>> No.66715102

guess I'll start watching her now since she filtered people that shape their opinions based on whatever /vt/ tells them to believe

>> No.66715213

>>66677716
if reimu wasn't there it could've been salvageable desu

>> No.66715275

>>66715102
>will spitewatch someone because people on the internet wanted to come to an informed decision about their entertainment
i don't think this was the dub you were hoping for

>> No.66715286

>>66715102
>guess ill start watching her now
no you won't lol

>> No.66718610

>>66686780
>They were certainly unhappy
Can confirmed even the anons on /stars/ were beyond pissed and are extremely disappointed when the change happened. Nowadays I think they don’t give a shit about him anymore
Hell I think even yume of him went absolutely schizo a made an entire green text about it

>> No.66718978

>>66677716
They're friends. It's not that deep.

>> No.66719895

>>66712740
Not that I care too much about following up, but losses like earnings tend to take some time to show
When drama hits, the regulars who don't care about it tend to make sure to keep donating, even donating more, just to make it seem as if things are fine.
Stuff like viewership or memberships will naturally take a hit, though. People leave. And that's something that donations will potentially miss out on.

>> No.66720664

>>66677716
She said they were gonna come back once she does an ASMR. Did she do the ASMR?

>> No.66721655

>>66689955
Penny for your thoughts
What's your opinion on someone sending a SC to one's oshi letting her know your disappointment in her recent actions but throwing in a 'but i still respect your choices, sorry for being rude'

>> No.66722568

>>66720664
she did for members. it was shared here and it was not very good.
and she's really spamming the male collabs. she doesn't want unicorns because she's after the homobeggars.

>> No.66723822

>>66722568
"homobeggars" are the boogeyman word unicorns use for anyone that isn't one of them. there aren't many people who actually spend any serious amount of time trying to get women and men to collab together. there's normal people who watch streams and unicorns who watch streams, the remainder is practically a rounding error.
tighten up your argument without putting words in her mouth; she's dumb enough that you don't need to lie for her.

>> No.66726771

>>66723822
i've seen plenty of begging, and if they're like unicorns then the majority are silent.

>> No.66727254

>>66721655
NTA but it doesn't come off very well, in either wording or chosen format. I'm having some trouble articulating precisely why, however.

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