Unity

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"Dear Holonigs and Starfags. We are here gathered today to celebrate the day of Hololive production Unity"

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Hope they have sex on stream to own the incels

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>>66632634
I'm going to rape both of them

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>>66632551
HOLY BASED

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>>66632551
It's okay when JP does it sister

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Pomu, Selen, and Petra won't stay no matter how hard you try, sister.

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>>66632551
Both of them look very nice and proper. Seem like a good couple of kids.

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>>66632551
I thought Ao-kun was you know, blue

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>>66632551
How many years ago was this stream anon?

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>>66635277
it was this morning. they're trying really really hard to force the stars into the holobox.

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>>66635358
So it's not unity, it's just another charity stream.

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>>66635277
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxCImrxpHb4

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>>66635947
>the usual cocksleeves and sora

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>>66635947
>Bae
The fuck? /vt/ told me ENs had stopped male collabs.

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>>66635947
>Ririka
>Bae
>Iofi
Nothing of value, anyways.

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>>66636661
they basically just stopped it for mori and kronii because they're default personality is flirty whores

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>>66636661
>bae

lmao. you are aware that the first thing she did in japan was off-collabs with homostars, right?

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>>66632551
This but unironically

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>>66632551
This but unironically.

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>>66632551
I hope for many more. Not constant or with every possible talent of course, but open enough for at least one to happen a month.

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>>66638499
Typical deadbeat trying to destroy everything

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as a unityfag, how do you rationalize the fact that homocollabs only ever hurt the female participant and never boost the homo, would you want them to keep happening considering this? how can you be a unityfag if you admit you dont care about the girls?

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>>66638706
Because the girls willing make that choice, I want them to make the content they want to make, for some that may include male collabs and for some it doesn’t, I think thats fine.

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>>66638832
>Because the girls willing make that choice
you think Sora wanted this?

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>>66638913
Isn't Sora famously into 2D men, after having publicly forsaken 3D ones?

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>>66638913
Prolly wouldn't be there otherwise.

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>>66636661
No one has ever said this

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>>66632551
It's called mascots, they are lead reps for their respective brands

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>>66639022
Sora never pushes for male shit, she just has CGP-level loyalty to Hololive and will literally do anything asked of her. She'd do a dildo comparison stream if upper management requested it.

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>>66636661
A bit, on her channel.
She also don't promote these on twitter(didn't check this one, though).

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>>66638913
> You think Sora wanted this

Sora literally visited Roberu congratulating for reaching a milestone and did song collabs before. Sora been supporting Stars for quite long time and you are either a falseflagger for suggesting otherwise or a retarded white knight

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>>66639119
Jesus, how new?

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>>66637069
But we love Ririka.

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>>66639156
>he thinks Sora calling the males was her idea

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>>66639119
>She'd do a dildo comparison stream if upper management requested it.
Well, what are they waiting for? That would be awesome

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>>66639185
>>>>>we

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>>66639210
>he thinks management is forcing her to take the dick against her will but not anybody else
Why do you cope like this?

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>>66639425
Sora doesn't give a fuck about males. It's why she's never had a collab with any of them. It's always some event/group thing she's asked to attend. She respect them and wants them to do well, only because they're under the same roof. She'd never push for a male branch if stars didn't exist.

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>>66639608
>Sora doesn't give a fuck about males
>She respect them and wants them to do well
Pick one

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>>66639608
> It's why she never collabed with any of them
> Literally search "Sora Stars" on Youtube and it will recommend tons of it

Are you a Nijisister tourist slandering our mighty goddess ?

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>>66639425
I mean… she’s the first hololive girl, it would look sort of bad for the holostars if she avoided them, she’s in a position where she sort of has to humor them

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>>66639289
Yeah, she's a kawaii positive genius.

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>>66639425
>the flagship of the company should have the freedom to go against company direction
said no company director ever. how fucking new are you to business?

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>>66639772
You can respect your work colleagues without actually caring about them. It's called being professional and working. If Hololive decided to drop Stars, she would not fight for them to stay.
>>66639980
>Literally search "Sora Stars" on Youtube and it will recommend tons of it
retarded homobegging sister that didn't read my post properly. Sora only interacts when there's some milestone they've reached. That's called being professional. That's not the same as an offline collab like the other whores in the company. Suisei collabs with males to prove a point. Sora, as the founder, obviously has a lot of shares in the company. She's financially incentivized to want them to do well, not because she cares about THEM. Bae and Ollie (as examples) would literally cry if Stars was shut down.

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I think I've finally realized why I hate the male models most companies use for Vtubing. They have no facial hair.

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>>66640412
I just wish there were more shotas

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>>66640412
Another victory for Nijimen.

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>>66640412
Pizza man...

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>>66640116
Maybe it would look bad here, but elsewhere theres plausible deniability if someone doesn’t interact with males, people either say they’re scared of unicorns or just don’t know the males too well so don’t seek out collabs.

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>>66640319
what "point" are they trying to prove sister?

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>>66640319
>obviously has a lot of shares in the company
>It was revealed to me in a dream.

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>>66641015
You think A-chan is the type to get financially fucked over? She's basically running the company at this point whilst Yagoo and his fellow suitfags suck bigger corpo cocks, begging for sponsorship deals. A-chan is Sora's closest friend. They're rich as fuck.

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Miyabi pill popping stream when?

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>>66640516
pizza man good :D

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>>66632551
cool I do not care about a werewolf game that is ultimately mediocre
>but you're posting in le thread
don't care
>but
These retards should get their own viewers instead of asking for hololive members to partake in their streams. fuck off Yagoo, i'm not watching your make-a-wish tier male vtubers.

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>>66635947
Why do they never invite Tempus?

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>>66637732
Lies

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>>66639185
Yeah me too. No matter what she does as long as she gives ASMR after everything is okay

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>>66644045
Because they don't have a new year outfit yet. Or any outfit after a year Kekarooo

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>>66632551
>10 streamers present to get a measily 5k ccv

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>>66644182
k tard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MBAaMfRw4c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny_nX5imtQI

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>>66644448
just another metric where the sum is lower than the individual where people dont give A SHIT about homos

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>>66644289
Ririka.....

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>>66644289
Even the homosexual yagoo knows that no one likes tempiss

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>Another leeching stream
3 years of making these and still homoviews are worse than indies

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>>66632551
Disgusting and disappointing.

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>>66644448
they're all washed, sora fell off

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>>66640314
The company direction is wanting to appeal to a wider more mainstream audience, which is only really achievable in the Japanese market.

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>>66647932
BRO TRUST ME BRO THE BOYS NEED OUR SUPPORT SO THATS WHY WE ASKED EVERY HOLOMEMBER TO COLLAB WITH THE MAKE-A-WISH BOYS

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>talent gets paid by a conbini they may not even like or a studio they don't care about to have their image used in merch / play their shitty game on stream, and men also happen to be in the collab
>"It's a professional event don't be stupid anon."
>talent gets paid by their primary employer to be on a stream where men also happen to be on the stream
>THEY ARE BEING FORCED BY MANAGEMENT
Every time without fail

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>>66632551
Miyabi's kimono is cuter

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>>66645082
but there's at least twelve dozen people telling me about the stream and all.

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so many incels here lol

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>>66641319
>They're rich as fuck.
If Sora had money, Peko/Mari/Rushia tier money, she'd have bought a house for her parents already and another for herself. Instead she lives at home in cluttered Miku room with two cats.
Instead Roboco bought her mother a house. Sora is ultra frugal, or one of the poorer holos.

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>>66655720
Sora is basically an internal cover employee now more than veing a vtuber. She got the seniority so jp autism allows her to not work as hard as the others. she is guaranteed a job at cover when she graduates.

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>>66638913
how new are you? it was literally Sora's idea to do the Rad Dogs cover that had a member from every branch?

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>>66655720
Stop talking out of your ass and provide proof or double down like a fucking moron

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>>66635947
Ririka really became the posterchild for homocollabs in regloss kek

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>>66655720
>Sora is ultra frugal
Correct.

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>>66655720
NTA but
>Two cats
Wrong
And her mother literally doesn't allow her to live on her own when she wants to find an apartment even just rent it for streaming only. She does have plan to build a house for entire family but don't think it would be easy to find a big enough land for a family house in a place like Tokyo and location is probably one of biggest issue because it will add travel time

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>>66656659
Retard.

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>>66635947
Oga sex

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>>66637133
Mori performed with both Rikka and Aruran like a month ago dude

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>>66635947
This doesn't feel good, reminds me of standing at a corner at a party while the girls i like talks to other people.

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>>66636661
Bae is literally a party girl anon, you be dumb to oshi her.

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>>66662209
Go up and talk to her then

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>>66639608
Read this you retarded newfag
>>66656690
>>66639142
Any other rrats you got besides "Sora is being forced to collab with people she doesn't want to because she's a shareholder in the company and I totally didn't get this info from the voices in my head!!!!" Fucking stupid monkey faggot

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>>66662209
That feeling is part of why people dislike these collabs

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>>66632551
Unironically, it's ok when JP does it because JPstars are at least tolerable. ENstars are a bunch of retards

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>>66664207
The only people who say this either know nothing about starsJP, or they know everything about starsJP and are trying to cover for them. They are unironically way bigger leeches and pests then anyone on the EN side, there are at least 4-5 vesper tier menheras there, 2 of them in this very collab

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>>66662686
NTA but just to be clear while saying Sora is forced to do something is stupid but that doesn't mean she actually cares that much about Holostars outside of she feels that's her obligation as the founder and representative of Hololive Production

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>>66664598
>2 of them in this very collab
Astel and?

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>>66633276
this is why i cant take you unicorns seriously

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>>66662209
Welcome back to reality anon.

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>>66664847
I'm not saying she's in love with them or anything of the sort. None of us have any idea what her feelings are towards them as claiming so would be supremely retarded. My point was only against the dramatranny above theorizing that Sora and Achan are somehow in cahoots and running hololive behind the scenes and Sora is mandated to do these collabs against her will (see how fucking stupid this sounds?)

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>>66665498
Ieople who don't like these collabs operate on these unspoken rules:
>Mixed-gender collabs between schmucks I don't care about: whatever (Aki and Aruran)
>Mixed gender collab with a girl I care about with a JP boy: Since I'm Nihongo jouzn't I'll probably forget this collab in 2 days unless it's an ongoing development or made a big stink (See Ao-kun and Ririka respectively)
>Mixed collab with an EN boy and a girl I care about: Death. Death to all.

Basically it's a graph with three axes of "Do I give a shit about this talent", "How much does the boy irritate me", and "What is the chance they become friends" that determine people's reactions.

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>arguing over Sora malecollabing
>when she has already done so before
Sora does whatever she wants so long as she is happy.
She is not chasing numbers and she has stated that she streams to relax. Collabs with males doesn't even hurt her numbers.

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>>66665931
oh man yeah that’s my favorite part of watching vtubers, the reality checks. the virtual idols should definitely deliver more reality checks, as many as possible.

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>>66662209
Have you ever considered that it is unhealthy to feel this way and that you may want to try reflecting on whatever it is that led you to this

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>>66666711
That’s right sis escapism is bad and unhealthy and toxic when men do it now back to our rape asmr streams gawk gawk gawk

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>>66666873
Good job on the non sequitur to something nobody was talking about and that I don't care for either

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>>66667012
GAWK GAWK GAWK YES MILOAD

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>>66667062
Are you capable of arguing with anything other than straw men

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>>66667162
Sorry, not justifying myself to a woman.

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>>66667255
So, no, you're not capable

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>>66666711
Why are you even here arguing over the introspection skills of unicorns? This was a conversation we needed to have decades ago when the JP idol industry took off and subsequently, the KR idol industry. Unicorns, at this point, are firmly entrenched into their mental illness and nothing less than professional help is going to help a lot of these dudes. Besides, people on bait threads aren't interested in sincere dialogue or actually watching streams. It's a community where people will dramafag for it's own sake and said dramafagging has taken precedence over actual vtuber discussion or content consumption.
Tldr: Catalog is retarded

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>>66662209
Why don't you feel that in every collab?

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>>66667649
yes sister we need to destroy idol culture, let’s beg for mixed collars to finally own the toxic unicorns and make space for a new INCLUSIVE AND DIVERSE fanbase

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>>66667849
I can tell you're not very smart and/or educated.

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>>66667834
why are men and different anyway? don’t you that’s, um, toxic?

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>>66667849
You don’t know what idol culture means

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>>66667849
>>66667947
Take a deep breath and calm down before sperging over your keyboard. You're omitting multiple words lol.

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>>66668058
it’s this fucking cell phone keyboard man the janny gave me three days for a picture of marine’s clothed ass

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>>66666603
Sorry your life sucks, Anon.

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>>66668118
Lmao that is so funny. Hope you get help and God bless you, anon.

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>>66666711
Watching streamers is by default a surrogate for actual relationships and friendships. Why do normalfags see it as an issue only when the opposite sex is involved?

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>>66666603
The speific flavor of "idol" that anime and anime-adjacent content like Hololive is supposed to encourage you to become a better you everyday, reality checks come with the concepts. If your idol ain't doing that, they're not an idol.

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So unfortunate that Cover's management must once again force content that a large number of their fanbase does not want. One can only hope 2024 is the year they final open their eyes and stop these pointless collabs.

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>>66668388
damn you guys watch streamers as a supplement for real relationships? i watch streamers because the funny person on the screen makes me laugh with their antics like a comedy show.

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>>66666474
Sora is neutral on this. People have more beef with Ririka doing this, apparently.

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>>66668388
This would also be an unhealthy way to feel in an actual relationship/friendship

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>>66668662
Ririka was/is GFE. She was as a Holo and she was for years as her PL
I have no idea why she's doubling down on this route considering she's 100% aware that it's upsetting some portion of her fans/now former fans, but it's difficult to see it as being ignorant considering her dumb comments about Unicorns.

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>>66666192
Was just trying to be clear since some people might actually think that Sora support Holostars at the same level as Yagoo does and regarding her feelings towards them it's pretty clear that she supports them out of obligation, as she stated that because they are on the same HoloPro and in her line of work that she needs to be a spokesperson so she needs to know her peeps, it's not exclusive about Holostars but that's her being professional that's all

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>>66668755
Anon, it's the same feeling as your friend/girlfriend inviting you to an event with all of their friends, but then they ignore you the entire time to talk with their friends while you're by yourself
It probably wouldn't bother you too much if your girlfriend was just chatting to her girl friends, but the dynamic turns around when you add male friends into that mix.

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>>66668755
Unsurprisingly, neets on /vt/ don’t realize that their hypothetical girlfriends also probably wouldn’t like them policing all their social interactions.

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>>66668755
fortunately it’s entirely virtual and the “relationship” is limited to chat interactions at most. that way the virtual youtuber can create a facsimile of a woman who’s actually tolerable to be around without having to live such an oppressive lifestyle.

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A lot of you guys really need to get some friends. Not even like a relationship, just some friends so you can start to comprehend basic ass human interaction.

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>>66668571
Do you donate to your oshi?

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>>66668905
Again, it's a speculating rrat on your part dude. Nobody's saying she's a yagoo or shinove but to frame it as: "Oh she only cares because she's the mascot for hololive and would hate them otherwise" is stupid considering she's collabing with them more than she has with some of the girls

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>>66669060
Actually it’s more like you watching the event and getting mad at a girl who doesn’t know you exist

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>>66668571
It's a self-defeating argument: if you had actual relationships you wouldn't waste your time watching streams for hours on end. Either that, or you're in the process to lose them by wasting your time watching streams. You're just not self-aware enough to realize it.

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>>66669060
Yes
That is an unhealthy feeling

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>>66669266
oh… then why did you bring up actual relationships and what would be appropriate in that context?

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>>66669060
I had a gf, never actually felt like this. We were friends with each other's friends, she had male and female friends and the same for me. We would go to parties or wherever and split up all the time because neither of us liked being joined at the hip 24/7 and neither of us had a problem with having friends of the opposite sex. The relationship was great and only didn't last because I had to move to a different continent. Point is, thinking like this is unhealthy and borne out of inexperience with romantic relationships. Stop listening to shitty red pill channels on the internet

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>>66668856
Ririka already joined that VCR GTA thing, ain't it a way more serious offense for unicorn than appearing on a new year unity program

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>>66669222
yeah I've donated to tons of streamers I like, my oshis included. It's the equivalent of tipping the street musician for playing a tune you like well? What else is it supposed to be?

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>>66669275
This really sounds like a (You) problem that you may need to work out. Having friends doesn’t take up so much of my time that I can’t watch streams, people have lives to get to and we can’t all hang out 100% of the time.

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>>66669465
>tons of streamers
Ah, you're a whore. That explains a lot

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>>66669335
i wasn’t >>66668755

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>>66669275
Am i not allowed to watch a movie or tv series just because i have friends or in a relationship?

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>>66669427
See, that doesn't really work for the comparison because as much as people like to pretend otherwise, during a collab, the participants aren't reading chat. The interaction between chat and Vtuber is fundamentally different than that between the Vtubers in the same collab, on a shared voice call.
If you can't understand something so simple, you really must be both dumb and a normalfag. A deadly combo to be reckoned with.

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>>66669427
This insecure and controlling behavior is probably a large part of why these anons have no irl gf if we're being honest, it reeks of weakness and insecurity and there's nothing women hate more

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>>66668856
Appearing in a official mix gender event on new years is super common for JP idols, if anything unicorn would care about about the VCR Pizza family thing.

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>>66669712
Anon, you're posting on /vt/ on a Saturday night. Don't LARP as a normalfag, it's fucking pathetic.
If I was a failed/wannabe normalfag and I spent my time posting on /vt/ like you, I'd have blown my brains out with a gun by now

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>>66669436
>>66669837
Think about it this way. Her admitting that she needs to "heal" Unicorn horns would suggest that she knew the VCR shit was crossing the line. The fundamental cope would be that it was a once off thing
So her doubling down on male collabs despite knowing it would hurt her fans is only going to drive off the people who were still in denial/coping that she'd go back to what she had been doing prior to the VCR shit
I don't really care too much, I never watched her. But I am curious as to what's going through her head at the moment.

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>>66669550
Eh, when I say "tons", it's mostly around 7 streamers that I stick to. Only one's a vtuber, the other are male FG fleshstreamers. I typically tip a few dollars if they play crazy well for a round. I do the same tipping style to my oshi for music-related things, like karaoke or song covers if her stuff turns out really well.

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>>66669846
I notice how you're incapable of refuting anything people say and just deflect with petty namecalling btw

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>>66669637
You're coping hard if you think streamers compete with movies/shows instead of your relationships.

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>>66669707
I believe it does work because it's borne out of the same insecurities with regardless to male-female interactions that people have irl. If unicorns were to, somehow, miraculously get a gf tomorrow, they would 100% be petty, insecure and controlling because your online behaviors will 100% reflect in your irl relationships and vice versa. The end result of these feelings of jealousy and betrayal are similar whether irl or with vtubers: Undue harrassment and hatred towards the persons involved.

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>>66670087
The fundamental argument is about the dynamic between Chat/Oshi and Oshi/other Vtubers. That anon completely ignored said dynamic and turned it into a blogpost which didn't address the point with attempts to shame others who disagreed with his faulty argument
There's honestly nothing more to be said than pointing out that he can't address the point worth a damn

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>>66670099
I think you're just severely mentally ill and should seek out a therapist anon. There's no difference between watching a streamer and watching a nightly talk show

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>>66670150
Not at all, and you seem to fundamentally misunderstand both human relations and unicorns at the same times
Unicorns tends to gather around girls who make explicit promises about what their behaviour would be, both on and off stream. Frankly if my girlfriend set ground rules at the start of our relationship and then suddenly tried to throw them out on a whim, I'd start to question whether or not that girl was worth the investment. It's standard human relations, and I think any attempt to avoid understanding it as such betrays a lack of normal socialization on your behalf.

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>>66670099
They are both for entertainment anon, i am sorry your oshi is boring and is only good for a substitute relationship. Unironically find a better oshi.

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>>66669233
Dunno why you put words into my mouth, must be confuse me with other poster or something since I never said that she would hate them if not for her status, I only said that she cares out of obligation and this is also true even towards Hololive, Sora is someone that mostly just do her own thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>66670352
NTA, but the existence of "live chat" fundamentally disproves your point.
Maybe you could argue watching VODs and watching TV are the same, but it's dishonest to claim a livestream with an Vtuber engaging with their chat is the same thing

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>>66670099
Who do you mainly watch anon, because this isn't my experience at all? It's very much equivalent to watching a live comedy show or podcast. The comedian does their bit, the audience reacts, and the comedian reacts to their reaction, rinse and repeat How is that supposed to be a substitute for going to the gym with my friends or snuggling with my girlfriend?

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>>66670583
There's no way you believe this unless you either exclusively watch VODs or you're a 100% ROM

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>>66670570
When a talk show host takes a question from the live studio audience, does that entitle the audience member to feel they're now in a relationship and the talk show host must never be seen speaking to the opposite sex again?
Keep in mind this is live and in person, face to face interaction. If anything 100x more intimate than a faceless chat message.

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>>66670583
honestly I’m far more interested in which vtubers YOU watch, and why you’re watching virtual idol youtubers in the first place. what do you get out of it that you can’t find elsewhere?

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>>66668428
>your idol should actively cuck you and encourage you to touch grass!

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>>66670800
>NO U
kys you thread bumping nigger

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>>66670783
Wait, are you braindead. Do you think the audience of a Vtuber forces expectations on to them that the Vtuber isn't aware of?
Do you have literally any idea about how Vtubing works, in the least bit? You're genuinely clueless, aren't you?
The only time I've seen Unicorns get actually upset with their oshi, and I mean actually upset, is when said oshi has explicitly promised their chat that they would avoid interaction with men and then go back on their words. If you're so clueless about how this sort of thing works, you're in no place to actually post your misinformed opinions.

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>>66670904
yeah, just like the reality checks in idolm@ster when the girls drop their cutesy personas and go on group dates with men from their agency. or the episode of love live where they visit a boys’ school and make friends with the male idol group there. sorry you don’t know anything about the genre I guess, but it’s actually for normalfags.

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>>66670904
Yes, the people who show you some tough love and encourage self betterment are ultimately healthier for you than enablers who want to profit off your misery. Are you in favor of body positivity activism?

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>>66635947
All of the girls in this image got plowed by the homostars in this image after the stream, sorry if one of them is your oshi, my condolences

[Anonymous No.]

>>66671089
so true sister. that’s why I love it when our favorite male vtubers mock fat women and talk about how high body counts are disgusting to them.

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>>66671072
Why are you deflecting and changing the subject suddenly? Is it because you know your position is indefensible? Are you just retarded?

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>>66671204
>favorite male vtubers mock fat women and talk about how high body counts are disgusting to them.
Source? Thats sounds extremely based i must watch him now.

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>>66671204
>no argument
I accept your concession.

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>>66670352
>>66670528
This is exactly the lack of self-awareness I was talking about. There's a reason streaming exploded with the covid quarantines. People seek out (a surrogate of) human connection from streamers, not just entertainment. Makes no sense to watch some e-clown/e-concubine playing games over the infinite catalog of high quality shows, films and books you have access to nowadays.

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>>66670800
Personally, there is no difference between a vtuber and non-vtuber streamer to me, aside from the added bonus of cool music and a nice-looking anime person you can look up fanart for. Said anime designs aren't that different from streamers and Youtubers who hide their faces and represent themselves with some silly creature or idealized persona that existed pre-vtubing. I like irland fully fictional idols and girl groups, but vtubers are just streamers with a bonus at the end of the day. Why?

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>>66670455
That is bullshit.
>Unicorns tends to gather around girls who make explicit promises about what their behaviour
Except they don't. Bae, Mori, Kronii, Ollie etc etc never made any such promises and this places still gets flooded with impotent unicorn rage anytime there's a Stars collab. Also, even the "unicorn friendly" holos like Nerissa, FWMC, Shiori etc never actually made any explicit promises. What happens is this place infers, via insane rrats and hypotheticals, about which of them hates the Stars and would never collab with them until one of them does so (Ame) and it completely blows up in their faces. If Nerissa were to collab with the Stars tomorrow, her unicorns would have zero justification for hating her because the unicorn standards are, 99% of the time, imposed unilaterally and without the talent's knowledge

[Anonymous No.]

>>66667834
Because seeing your crush talk to different girls than you is different than seeing her talk to different guys than you

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>>66671260
You're the person with an indefensible position the moment you pull out your dumb talk show comparison.
I'll play along with your logic here and if you deflect, I won't bother with you again.
Let's say you're watching a talkshow every week and when they started the show, they announced that they would never invite a certain group of people as guests onto the show. For clarity, let's assume said group is something like "currently elected politicians serving the Government." The reason they state this is that they want their talkshow to be a place in which people can relax and enjoy lighthearted banter and that real world issues don't have a place in the show
Fast forward a year into the shows' airing and they bring on a controversial politician. Is it not only natural that the audience who have been supporting the show all along might take offense to this?

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>>66671442
>even the "unicorn friendly" holos like Nerissa, FWMC, Shiori etc never actually made any explicit promises.
Kiara absolutely did make such a promise, and Miko too

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>>66671577
Yes, Kiara, Miko, Noelle and probably some more than I'm forgetting. The vast majority of the 60+ talents, however, didn't. That doesn't change my point

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>>66671442
Oh wait, do you think that the posts on /vt/ are serious? You're an autismo.
The majority of /vt/'s catalog are shitposters who don't watch streams who like to get angry about things. I'm not taking this argument seriously unless it's a case of people using their actual fan accounts or actual posters in generals complaining, and not just tourists/catalogfags
Also
>Nerissa
Why choose the woman who is afraid of even having her brother show up on stream in case it's causes a misunderstanding as your example?

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>>66671643
Miko didn't just make a promise, she basically said she wished hololive stayed an all-girls environment because she liked it that way. She's not just unicorn friendly, she is one.

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>>66669294
It really isn’t, that is a super common feeling in relationships

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>>66671502
You changed the entire context of the situation because you know you can't answe the actual question that was asked without looking bad.
Again, I want your answer to the actual question: When a talk show host takes a question from the live studio audience, does that entitle the audience member to feel they're now in a relationship and the talk show host must never be seen speaking to the opposite sex again?

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>>66671643
If a Vtuber goes over a year or two without a single interaction with a male Vtuber, but tons of collabs with females, is an explicit promise even necessary? This sounds like autism speaking

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>>66671735
This is homobeggar cope, keep pretending that no one actually hates the homos and that everyone is just trolling… on an anonymous forum where you can barely elicit a reaction, which is literally the entire point of trolling

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>>66671750
nta but proof for this?

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>>66671848
talk show hosts don't sell drama cd's acting like they're your gf, or sell personal merch to fans obsessed with them, or sing songs to their fans that pay a shitton to see them.

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>>66671848
Nta but this is not the same thing, for one thing, people watch talk shows because they are entertaining, people watch vtubers because they are cute.

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>>66671643
>Misspelled my oshi's name
Whatever side of the argument you are on, you lost

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>>66671848
I don't believe talkshows and Vtubers are remotely comparable. I'll accept your concession in advance and I'll enjoy your delicious (You) when you inevitably respond to me again, schizo

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>>66671937
It's from a minecraft stream from 2020, zero change I'm gonna find it for you

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>>66671735
Ah classic "It wasn't us it was just the people pretending to be us" argument

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>>66671907
I'm not a homobeggar. But there's no way Bae, Mori or Kronii still have Unicorns. It's like how people pretend to be annoyed about Towa doing a male collab.

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>>66672069
I spelled Kiara perfectly fine though?

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>>66672168
Kronii promised us she'd stop doing them

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>>66672138
When my oshi does something I dislike, I tell her directly. She recognizes me in chat and knows my opinions on several topics as a result.
If you genuinely think the posting about Bae is sincere, I'd like to try selling you some magic beans

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>>66672103
So it doesn't exist then? Got it

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>>66671400
>If you watch vtubers you must be a parasocial loser
You sound exactly like a vtuber anti, you sure you arent one of them? You do know why the top vtubers are the funny and entertaining one right? Pekora for example is not GFE.

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>>66672313
Honestly if you haven’t seen the clip, the screencap that gets pulled out in every one of these discussions, or people talking about it, I really can’t take your opinions on hololive seriously at all. Not looking it up for you either btw.

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>>66672310
Okay so you either watch a 2 view or you're actually insane. Good stuff

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>>66671758
I doubt said commonality, and even then, it’s still an unhealthy perspective

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>>66672485
The majority of the top Vtubers also don't collab with male Vtubers. What's your point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66633605
>and Petra

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>>66672485
Only kids watch Pekora

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>>66671887
If you see your coworker drink Dr. Pepper with their lunch for a year, do you automatically assume they hate water or any other drink? No, you think "oh, they might have a preference for this thing, but that isn't indicative of their opinions about anything else unless I explicitly ask "do you hate this other thing?""
I don't watch the boys but I pretty much assume the girls prefers to stick with their friends and senpai they like. Sometimes, those friends/senpai are all female, sometimes that might include a dude. Throw in a dash of chronic introversion that makes it awkward to interact with men you've never met before as a woman, and boom. Pretty much covers all opinions in Hololive about that.

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>>66672550
>people talking about it
Yes, because catalog never misrepresents and misconstrues people's words for their own agendas. If you don't have the actual clip then you don't have an argument sorry

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>>66672569
4view
But it doesn't really matter. You just keep tilting at windmills or whatever gives your life meaning

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>>66643805
shut up

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>>66672680
>wants to see his oshi laugh and talk to a man that will fuck her after the collab
What a cuck you are, sorry the rest of us want our oshi to not interact with men they might get along with and sleep with

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>>66672680
>If you see your coworker drink Dr. Pepper with their lunch for a year, do you automatically assume they hate water or any other drink?
If I saw my coworker drink onions milk with their lunch for a year, would I be out of line for assuming they are lactose intolerant, especially if I'd never seen them touch any other dairy products either in front of me? If I then mentioned this to all of my coworkers other colleagues and they said the same thing, it wouldn't be out of line to assume it

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>>66672742
You actually sound very delusional btw.
>My 4view oshi knows my unicorn opinions personally
And btw, just because a girl doesn't have any unicorns, doesn't mean unicorns of other girls don't concern themselves anytime there's a male collab with anyone from hololive. The argument I get everytime someone's angry at Mori or Bae is "They're trying to destroy the culture"

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>>66672680
You're ignoring the fact that these girls get asked constantly about collabs, either in general or specifically male collabs.
Even if they don't go out of their way to specifically address it, if they choose to blatantly ignore collab begging, that sends its own message. But again, I think you have a case of the 'tism

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>>66672932
It’s because there’s a thing called domino theory

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>>66672680
>>66672867
Both of you are genuine retards. Preferences for foodstuffs is not comparable for preferences between human interactions. People are not fucking Sodas.

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>>66672485
The discussion has nothing to do with GFE. In fact, it started off explicitly to address why most people think parasociality is a prerogative of opposite gender... well, parasocial relationships. >>66668388

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>>66672932
I don't give a shit about culture or whatever, and there's a good chance the people arguing with you don't either.
Maybe you'd be better off staying off of 4chan instead of getting into pointless arguments with people you dislike every day.

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>>66671750
I don't remember she said "she wishes stayed etc" she only said Hololive is girls group basically which is true because Hololive is girls group while Holostars is boys group and they never change

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>>66673057
Soda…

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>>66673159
She also destroyed a blue thing signaling a male toilet on the Minecraft server saying there’s no need for that, clearly choosing a side on the debate at that time whether holostars should be allowed onto the mc server

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>>66672168
>Bae, Mori or Kronii
One of these things is not like the others despite shitposters trying to insist it's true.

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>>66672817
I'm a lesbian who's type in anime women isn't really represented in Hololive just yet, dunno what you want me to say in response to this? I don't particularly care what my oshi's doing off-screen as long as it ain't illegal or a determent to her health.

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>>66673067
>he discussion has nothing to do with GFE
It has everything to do with GFE, if its just a parasocial comes in alot of forms you can see them as a substitute friend or a girlfriend. If you just see them as a friend why would you care if they spoke to the opposite sex?

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>>66673600
Wow, you are not severely mentally ill and probably go outside and make friends with people. What vtubers do you watch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66673600
tits immediately or admit to being a tranny

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>>66673421
>this means that she wishes Holostars didn’t exist and that nobody in Hololive ever talked to them
jesas you people jump way too fast to conclusions

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>>66673722
Anon I even linked you the post. At least read what the fucking discussion was about before answering me with your retarded takes.

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>>66673816
I watch Biboo, a bit of Ame, and I like Suisei's music a ton. For non-Holos, Salome's the closest thing I have to a kamioshi, love that freak of nature. I said I don't watch the boys but I have been getting recommended VRGTA clips like crazy cuz I was watching Aki clips for a bit, Roberu gave me a laugh once or twice in the few I watched. I honestly watch a lot more fleshtubers than vtubers.

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>>66669992
She is just a petty bitch woman in the middle of "le owning le incels" moment
Just drop and move on, i watch vtubers for CGDCT not twitch ethot with an anime filter

[Anonymous No.]

>>66674668
I was sort of hoping for an actual "take" and not some mouth breather. Or falseflagger. God only knows

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>>66674392
Oh hey, great taste. I mostly watch the Stars but Suisei's music is always a joy to listen to and I try to catch some of the advent girls like Shiori when I can as well. If you ever want to check out the EN side try some of the newer boys like Ruze, Goldbullet or Bettel. Anyways, nice to actually talk to a normal person in these infested threads

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>>66674824
Thats literally why she is doing it
She is having a woman moment about hating incels so she must alienate her entire fanbase, many such the case.

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>>66674668
We already know how you sisters love to larp as unicorns and insult Holos
Next

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>>66674824
NTA but it seems like you could just extrapolate from her actual statements to figure it out
>she thought it would be fine to collab with males if she “made up for it” later
>this wasn’t true and her gachis left
>since they’re gone and wont come back even if she does ASMR, her only route forward is to do more mixed content and hope the fans who like that support her
The idea of apologizing instead of trivializing the complaints hasn’t occurred to her because a) she doesn’t think she’s done anything wrong and b) she’s a woman

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>>66675160
She killed her channel, there is nowhere for her to go but the low 4view lanes, legit only blue dorito NPC that watch holo no matter what are staying and those are no one fans and will only kill her more, actually she might end up 3view because Regloss doesn't get many of these drones (no explicit Blue Dorito logo visible)

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>>66675010
>larp
Sorry to break it to you, but femnicorns exist just see kanata and they are most likely the one that wont stop making threads like this because everyone knows women can never let go of a grudge.

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>>66636661
>He fell for the Dimitri Jap memes

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>>66676776
She’s getting mogged by fucking aruran in the pizza faggotry collab right now… as if we needed any more evidence that homocollabs ONLY benefit the homos at the girls expense

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>>66677052
kanata isnt a femnicorn and you dont watch her

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>>66678120
not only do you not watch Kanata, you don’t even watch clips.

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>>66665498
It’s almost like it’s a bunch of starsfags falseflagging that say this and not people who actually dislike these collabs in the first place

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>>66675010
Not really, you guys have just repeated this narrative as a coping mechanism so many times, that you retards are actually starting to believe it

[Anonymous No.]

>>66678666
Yes really

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>>66666711
Yes but also vtubing in itself is kind of cope so it doesn't track to reflect on that. The ideal scenario i guess would be to stop watching vtubers and meet someone.

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>>66670288
According to your own rules, you should also be feeling jealous of other people in the chat. To people whose SC are reading out loud.
And at that point you are simply in the same grade of illness of the real japanese unicorn that stalks the streamers trying to found evidence of their "purity".

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>>66632634
Why? What have incels ever done to you?
You're just a susceptible, brainwashed cunt, aren't you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66680759
Disgust me

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>>66677942
>She’s getting mogged by fucking aruran in the pizza faggotry collab right now
Aruran (~4700) was only 100 views ahead of her (~4600). The only outliner is Ao, who has around of 7.5k viewers.
Not that it matters because I am enjoying watching them and on top of that Touko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66677942
>100 viewer gap
>mogged
I wish death upon all numberfags, they are truly a disease

[Anonymous No.]

>>66679022
You can cope all you want, that still doesn't make them not-unicorns.Also
>2 people
What about the rest of those comments and people liking them?

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>>66662209

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I was told that Unicorns don't harass vtubers and only homobeggers do but looking at Ririka's situation, it seems like that's simply not true and both are different sides of the same coin

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>>66638499
It's spelled Tempura

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>>66681992
>Ririka's situation
You mean her unicorns leaving to greener pastures? Unless you can show me harassment from unicorns genuinely btw, I've not kept up with her

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>>66683621
See>>66679022
It pretty accurately sums up how EOP unicorns reacted to her, if this isn't harassment then I don't really know what is

[Anonymous No.]

this thread is shit in all the worst ways

[Anonymous No.]

>>66683753
What, there's actual discussion about the nature of parasociality in regards to Vtubers going on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66667649
It's a pity the guy on the bottom won.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66638960
Forbidden knowledge...

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>>66662209
in fact, that is exactly the problem. you will see others blame unicorns and incels but this is why it's not fun to watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66636661
>The fuck? /vt/ told me ENs had stopped male collabs.
They did. But Bae is very stupid and wants to keep fucking up her own career. Even Mori, Ame, and Kronii learned their lessen to stay away from males.

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>>66665498
Unicorns don't watch Sora and never will. She's the biggest Homolover in Hololive. The reason they don't hate her is because she's professional but that same vibe exists with all her interactions and is why she doesn't really have fans or friends compared to what you'd expect for the "face of Hololive". I mean her two best friends in the entire company include one who is openly happily married and the other who is a staff member and interacts heavily with everyone in a less-than-professional official capacity.

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>>66683720
It's hilarious that you don't even look at the post you are using for evidence, it is evidence that harrassing "unicorns" are homo fans larping as unicorns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66685889
Wait who is openly happily married?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66686114
The vsinger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66686114
The apple of my eye and my wife.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66632806
no you wont

[Anonymous No.]

>>66693474
you don't know that

[Anonymous No.]

>>66657636
Sora has two pussies, what are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66694975
She currently only has one adopted from her dead granpa

[Anonymous No.]

>>66644826
that's not the first thing she did though

[Anonymous No.]

>>66632551
Celebrate this too