/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Why is she significantly less popular than Fuwamoco and Bijou? What do they have which she doesn't?

[Anonymous No.]

Lolis always win anon

[Anonymous No.]

NTR debuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630462
>Lolis always win

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
>less popular
On what metric?
While it's true that Fuwamoco is on another level, Shiori should be head to head on sub with Biboo if she didn't have to take a lot of breaks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
She hamstrung herself by taking a break too quickly after debuting, and that lost momentum will set her back for the rest of her career without something special to draw people in.

[Anonymous No.]

Streams a lot less and rarely gaming streams are 2 possible reasons that could partly explain it

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
hey, atleast shes better than kiara 2.0 (nerissa) and her fans are less annoying than hers that are mostly kfp

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
Fuwamoco are constantly creating, theyre parasocial with their fans, they know how to engage their fans and make very creative content.

Bijou is really funny and pebbles are the best posters in adventrix.

Shiori makes niche content for gachikois and book worms

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630533
The one on the left get a way with the gaming chair yab. Literally zero consequence and the paypigs are still loyal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
FWMO are overhyped, have double the manpower for content and gets botted; Bijou memes baits, plays more popular stuff and hangs with more popular people all the time. Shiori plays less popular stuff, collabs a lot less and has been absent for 5-6 weeks total already.

[Anonymous No.]

She baits GFE and normalfags don't care for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630863
Are you implying Fuwamoco and Bijou are for normalfags?! Bijou is for pedos and Fuwamoco are for lonely 30+ year olds.

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>>66630462

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630786
She was also caught playing with one of her viewers on her private account and her paypigs don't know or don't care

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
She's boring

[Anonymous No.]

>>66631363
there's literally an active thread with anons saying the same about fwmc

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
Literally killed all potential for building momentum with her weird statement at debut (nothingburger, but it hurt her growth mildly) and then taking an immediate massive break

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
Fuwamoco have a good gimmick Biboo streams long hours and is a competent gamer

[Anonymous No.]

>>66631485
>competent gamer
No idea where people are getting that when she's doing the same thing a lot in EN are already doing except being around more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66631398
those aren't anons, they're retards

[Anonymous No.]

It's really just her retarded week 2/3 break. Doing that shit at a really crucial time in the dawn of her career was a big mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630555
>taking a break too quickly
>>66630556
>if she didn't have to take a lot of breaks
>>66630829
>has been absent for 5-6 weeks total already
>>66631445
>taking an immediate massive break
I've never understood this angle. If she didn't take these breaks, there wouldn't have been a huge wave of people that would've discovered her and supported, especially when you consider she's unique and niche. She maybe missed out on like 200-400 people if we're being realistic. She also makes content out of her breaks by filming shit and talking about it, does twitter spaces whilst she's away, still tries to appear on streams or VC and keeps in contact with her fans. Shiori and Kiara are the only ENs that are GOOD at breaks. Fauna just about does enough but she's too big to get affected by them at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
Fucked off on vacation, said something that implied she might collab with men, and some people don't like her because they can see through her grifting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66631723
>If she didn't take these breaks, there wouldn't have been a huge wave of people that would've discovered her and supported
Huh?
And you don't understand how taking a 2 week break literally the moment after you debut hurts momentum? Do you not understand how vital those first months are to your growth?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66631933
As a counterpoint, Bijou's momentum didn't really start picking up until after that period was already past

[Anonymous No.]

>>66631933
>She maybe missed out on like 200-400 people if we're being realistic

[Anonymous No.]

The homo cocksleeve "threat" and the breaks did nothing.
The reality is that the EN fanbase is way too attached to muh vidya gaems so other stream types aren't all that successful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630533
Right one is just perfect, big W!

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630903
This sounds like a pathetic attempt at shilling your dying corp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
I don't know, stopped watching Shiori a few days after her debut, when she said she'll collab with males.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
Niche content = niche vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

Back to your containment cage monkey

[Anonymous No.]

The shit that comes out of her mouth is such a turn off. She sounds no different from some girl you meet in america or worse in california. She sounds like some raunchy mexican girl thats not hot or cute in the slightest. No tact whatsoever. Very similar to coco and kiara. Like she belongs in some trash group like vshoujo where they are incapable of talking about anything else other than their vagina and sex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66632410
Fwmc and Nerizzler are HORRIBLE at games but they're still leading sub with other contents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
If you have to split fuwamoco supachat then shiori has the highest supas in all of Advent. Bijou pebbles are mostly poor seaniggers. She's fine having less numbers because novelites are better quality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66632851
The fuck you on aboout? She's objectively the sweetest member of Advent which says a lot considering they're all nice girls. Only Fuwawa is the devil.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66632851
You can tell I have daddy issues? Why, what gave that away?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66633149
She's so fucking blunt about everything and is about as subtle as a freight train with that way of speaking, it pisses me off to no end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66633142
>If you have to split fuwamoco supachat
Ruffians say they count as one channel so they therefore have the highest CCV (non-botted) and SCs, yet EN1 had 5 members with 5 channels, EN2 had 5 members with 5 channels but EN3 had 5 members with 4 channels. If Fuwamoco were really seen as one member/channel, where's the 5th member with her own channel? They took up another woman's slot if we're going by the pattern of the other two EN gens. That means Hololive see them as two members, so their #'s should therefore be /2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
Too on the noose GFE, chiq weird content isn’t everyone’s cup of tea

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
The what the fuck is she talking about experience has a pretty niche audience

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
unironically meme

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>>66630420
I don't dislike her or think she's bad at all, but she honestly confuses the me the most out of all ENs. Like when she rambles about something and you stop paying attention for a few seconds you get lost in whatever she is talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

Haven't watched a solo stream of her but in collabs she just doesn't mix well with her group. This is my reaction to most of what she says.

[Anonymous No.]

Why would I watch Shiori when I can watch Raden instead? A superior choice for the same niche.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66633669
I think Raden and Shiori should have smokey gothic autistic sex

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
Fuwamoco have the twin gimmick and the advantage of speaking Japanese, so they are able to draw in more people. Bijou is known as the gamer and has had a lot of memes. Even Towa commented on how she noticed Bijou was good at games. I don't even know what Shiori does beside apparently having weird zatsus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66633428
We don't ask that around here anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>66633759
>I don't even know what Shiori does
That's what makes her exciting. I literally have no idea what next week's schedule will be. In a sea of women doing the same shit every week, Fuwamoco having 3 of the same streams guaranteed every week as an example, it's nice to have a fuzzy member. In a weird way she's like EN's Haachama because you could also ask what the fuck does she do compared to her genmates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66633759
>Holodrone can't something that's different from his autistic safespace
Like parsley really

[Anonymous No.]

>>66632706
You are a retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>66634081
Apparently not many can since she's got the lowest subs lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
What i wonder is how Nerissa flubbed when the rest of her generation has dogshit voices that are unlistenable trash

[Anonymous No.]

>>66634114
finish your duolingo lesson then read my post again SEAchama

[Anonymous No.]

>>66634201
because rissa is the one with the annoying voice

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
Biboo is a gamer and she attracts the type of people who likes watching chuubas play games and fwmc are for those idol fanatics that enjoy the idol stuff. Shiori isn't neither of these and she can't sing either. She's like the vesper of her group she's made for those who are into zatsudans and what not. I used to watch her back when she was doing quirky stuff but she stopped doing that too and now is another Kiara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66634311
>and now is another Kiara
Is that supposed to be a bad thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
Besides the amount of content, numberchama, she just covers a different niche that doesn't have to be equally broad in appeal.
One of hololive's strengths is having a good balance between corporate identity/common standards and individual talents filling different niches.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66634350
Nobody said it was a bad thing, it's just that there's not as many people interested in that type of stuff. Playing video games or being a great singer will always be a bigger pull.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
She 2viewed for half a decade, numbertranny. Being less popular than anyone isn't going to phase her

[Anonymous No.]

>>66634519
>She 2viewed for half a decade
...is anyone going to tell him about the twins?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66634636
Or the rock?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66634830
He's talking about the time frame. Both Bijou and Nerissa were low 2views, but they weren't grinding as long as Fuwamoco have been.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66634636
>>66634830
Why would that matter tho? Being last place in a HoloEN gen is still leagues above whatever she had. Twins are last place btw >>66633428

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
FWMC has a sizeable number of JPbros among their viewership.
Bijou is a cute loli that isn't lewd, plus she is actually good at videogames.
Shiori appeal is just more niche.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
It's what she has that they don't. All those extra personalities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
GFE is a buff for small vtubers, and a debuff for big ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66635394
GFE members in JP:
>gen0
Sora (yes, she is)
>gen1
-
>gen2
-
>gamers
-
>gen3
Rushia, one of the biggest vtubers of all time
>gen4
-
>gen5
Nene, Lamy (not so much anymore)
>gen6
Chloe (kind of), Koyori
>gen7
Ririka

I don't class any of them as runts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66635655
Japanese viewers are different

[Anonymous No.]

>>66632706
>a few days after
What a retarded take, everyone else wrote her off the second she said it. If you're going to keep watching for days after that, that can't be the reason you left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66635655
>I don't class any of them as runts.
Then you're a fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66635655
If none of them count as runts, then Shiori doesn't either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66633142
>If you have to split fuwamoco supachat then shiori has the highest supas in all of Advent.
You cant math? Use a better shit posting angle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66636090
That's still an incredible performance by someone as filtering and niche as Shiori who also hasn't worked anywhere near as hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>66636090
>>66636178(Me)
and has been away for many weeks where she would've received a lot more SCs, overtaking fwmc/2

[Anonymous No.]

>>66634010
she was burmese?
civil war must've got her

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
a pedo fanbase

[Anonymous No.]

>>66636242
>and has been away for many weeks where she would've received a lot more SCs, overtaking fwmc/2
Thats still a cope. She still lost. You want their acrylic numbers?
hololive closet - Advent New Year
Shiori Novella New Year Outfit 505 $11.00 $5,555.00
Koseki Bijou New Year Outfit 469 $11.00 $5,159.00
Nerissa Ravencroft New Year Outfit 514 $11.00 $5,654.00
Fuwawa Abyssgard New Year Outfit 1293 $11.00 $14,223.00
Mococo Abyssgard New Year Outfit 1275 $11.00 $14,025.00
$44,616.00

[Anonymous No.]

Nobody wants to watch natsumi moe

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
Her voice is bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
I'm sure many others have already said it but, what killed her momentum was her break after a week or two after debut, no worst moment to go on a break really and basically she gave herself one hell of a debuff regarding numbers and popularity.

I'm sure it was something important and she had to leave for that time, but for her growth it was a disaster, more so than her boring debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66633142
Huh going by the numberfags stats, bijou selling slightly less merch than Nerissa and Shiori even tho she tends to get double their ccv. Take into act Biboos SCs are the lowest of Advent as well, so the poor fag fanbase rings true

[Anonymous No.]

>>66636312
Can't argue against those numbers, so you have me there. Were they sold to JPs, too? I could see a lot of Japs buying fwmc's merch. If we could filter JP purchases from those numbers I'd bet they would all be very close considering Shiori, Nerissa and Bijou are all around the same, with Bijou being far more popular and marketable than Nerissa and Shiori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
The question is more like what do they NOT have that she does and the answer to that is a disastrous debut.
First impressions are extremely important.

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>>66636503
>If we could filter JP purchases from those numbers
What kind of cope is this? Here is their kimono outfit reveal supas. Even if you only consider USD supas for the dogs, they beat out the rest of advent easily. Shiori is last btw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630903
>Fuwamoco are for lonely 30+ year olds.
Isn't that all vrubers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
Fake whore of advent
Nerissa is the true whore of advent
Whores underperform in holo

[Anonymous No.]

>>66636854
>Here is their kimono outfit reveal supas
*0.5

[Anonymous No.]

>>66636944
Even if you do that, they still get triple in SCs over shiori. So what kind of cope is that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66636854
The only time Bijou beat Shiori, also Shiori literally had a stream right before where she made 160k yen

[Anonymous No.]

>>66636854
>>66636944
And just like last time you tried to pull this shit off, you convienently forget to add that she did another stream a few hours prior to that, where she already received some SCs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66636996
>So what kind of cope is that?
That they weren't 6x more successful than Shiori in regards to SC for this specific event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66637082
Even if you try this cope, She still get beaten handily by the doggos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66637089
Okay, I give you that. They are 2.968 more successful than Shiori. What other arguments do you have?

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>>66637295
In all honesty, none. Fuwamoco are more successful by every metric than Shiori, even when /2. /2 is still a reasonable thing to do, however, as much as ruffians try to cope that it's not.

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>>66630420
>Holo vs Holo
I love that we are at a point where Holo is only being compared to other Holo, because it shows that there is no one else worth comparing to anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

For me it's not that there is anything wrong with Shiori, it's that she is in a niche that she doesn't take advantage of. She is supposed to like books and manga but does nothing with it. She games, and so she competes againatagainst Biboo who is a meme queen gamer that is proficient enough to mod Undertale.
I like most of Shiori's game choices, but I've seen other Holos read manga on stream. If she is a bookworm, worm into those books.
Fill the niche people thought you were going to fill.

[Anonymous No.]

Well, many reasons:
- I remember people were being filtered by her voice at the start
- Less hours streamed total than Biboo and FWMC
- Weird selection of games, which many fake gamers would find unappealing as they aren't FOTM or famous games.
- Swearing. Yeah, I know it's weird, but for some puritan-like guys don't like swearing at all (see Kiara) and acts as another repellant.
- Her zatsu content isn't for everyone.
- Streaming times: she usually streams at a quite competitive timeslot, so there will be less curious viewers tuning in to her channel as they're probably busy watching another one.

Also I wouldn't make a comparison with FWMC, they're in an a league of their own and at this pace they will surpass their Promise senpais in half a year (talking about subs only).

Either way, they're all great girls and I love Advent and specially my Shio~rin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66637651
yeah, they can't stop winning

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
She's the archiver of BL books that she can't talk about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
Weird granny nasal voice

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
NTT debuff, BBC debuff, vague male collab-dogwhistle comments on debut, taking long breaks right after debut, extremely fake-ass gfe when you know she really isn't and hates that shit because you've done your reps, she was a bitch to FWMC in early collabs, she's got anime nerd trope voice with sexy goth model that just doesn't mesh, too much focus on la creatividad weirdo shit, not enough games, terrible singer... I mean the list is endless. bottom line: she fucking sucks and isn't as good as her genmates. She will forever be an Anya.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66640286
*NTR

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck you all she is the sweetest girl ever and all her genmates love her. She is super funny, hardworking and acts incredibly cute. Anyone who has her as his oshi is incredibly lucky, with the only downside being the risk of falling too hard for her. She hasn't done anything to deserve all the hate posting she gets, which still continues to this day for impenetrable reasons.

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly I just don't like her voice

[Anonymous No.]

Best voice, strictly for connoisseurs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66637509
that's retarded. it's one channel, they're one person for all intents and purposes. it's Mococo and her cheerleader 95% of the time, it's their whole gimmick. The whole /2 thing is ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.]

Her energy, dorkiness and humor are hard to appreciate at first glance.

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>>66640435
do your reps anon, the clock is ticking. She is not someone you want to put all your eggs in one basket for, unless you want the pain later. Also her genmates all get along *except* her. She makes every collab awkward. When it's just Biboo, Nerissa and the dogs they have a lot more fun and it's way more relaxed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66640530
So where's the 5th member then? Why did they go with 4 members this time unlike the other two gens? The only thing that's different this time is having a twins channel, therefore they're clearly seen as taking up two spaces. Two spaces = /2 for even the company considers them two members. That's not even considering the obvious things like halving the workload for each other where their genmates have to do everything. When one is sick, the other can stream. The other girls have to take breaks or reduce their output. It's fucking retarded to see them as one successful member.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
BBC obsessed whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>66634636
>>66634830
>>66634902
Bijou was just an indie 2 views, like many others.
Shiori and FWMC instead literally ate shit for their whole career.

Like, I am not downplaying what Biboo did, but Shiori/FWMC are in the Kiara "I'd rather kill than go back to my life before hololive" tier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66637763
>- Weird selection of games,
Oh yeah, this. People talk about the breaks, but the real mistake (from a number point of view) were all the horror kusoge she played during october. That was supposed to be her month, she could have really played more into the horror angle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
Streams less and is a more niche taste. Simple as. I don't think she even is wanting to get big numbers. She wants a close nit fanbase of schizos

[Anonymous No.]

>>66640286
I actually completely forgot about her BBC comment. Thanks for reminding me.

[Anonymous No.]

Do the people that still ask this even look at the content she makes, the "games" she plays? That would answer all your questions instantly

[Anonymous No.]

Just watch the Lethal Company collab without her, then watch the one with her and watch the one without Nerissa.
Only the first is good and has natural Advent chemistry. Doesn't help this autistic bitch won't play FPS games and holds Advent back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66641300
she did it early, so newfags won't remember, like they won't remember her collab comment, or do their due diligence and check her PL so they know what to expect

[Anonymous No.]

>>66641324
Shiori is quick-witted. It's not her fault she's surrounded by retards that don't get her jokes and take everything she says seriously. It pains me to say it but she'd click better with males for she has male humor and speed. Only IRyS and Fauna would be good with Shiori in EN. I don't blame her for not reaching out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66640729
Hololive has never had a consistent member amount for each generation it just tends to be five but by no means is guaranteed to be five

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>66641794
Even if we go with that cope, you think only one of them is keeping the money or getting more than the other? Even they share/split it, let alone the workload. It's not like one works harder than the other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66642284
So what you are saying is any channel with a team behind it isn't doing good and should looked at by divided their success by every member of their team? Be less retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
>goes on a vacation for 2 weeks early on
>"why does it kill your growth when you aren't present during the period when normalfags are swarming in"
IDK faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

Her fanbase being full of mentally ill parasocials scares people away. Novelites are worse than Sappos

[Anonymous No.]

>>66633264
Congrats, you're probably autistic like she is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66637658
>If she is a bookworm, worm into those books.
She can do Polka-style night readings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66642406
Let me turn it around. Answer honestly. Not to me, just keep the answer to yourself. Say for whatever reason, Shiori and Nerissa decided to team-up now. Under one channel. Shiori moved in with Nerissa. Offline collabs every stream. Sharing the workload. Chemistry through the roof. CCV and SCs go up. Their # start to compete with Fuwamoco's. Here's my question: would you think of them as one channel and think their new-found success is only due to being really entertaining and streaming more consistently/longer, or would you think that it's clearly because there's two people working for that channel so it's not fair to compare them to Bijou who's on her own.

Again, keep the answer to yourself. I don't need to hear it for I know what the answer is going to be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66640286
>NTR
Ah yes dox shit from years ago about streams you didn't even bother to watch otherwise you'd know those streams where joke streams.
>BBC debuff
1 (one) joke
>long breaks after debut
Yeah fair on that
>vague male collab-dogwhistle comments on debut
Hi BVTM, how's being brown going for you? You still believe the gaslight that was you turning "be respectful in chat if I collab" and "I only collab with friends and potential friends" to "respect my collab choices" which btw, is something I doubt she would even know the meaning of since she wasn't even that big into Hololive until after she joined.
>she was a bitch to FWMC in early collabs
She wasn't at all you faggot, but then again you can just make up shit to push your agenda anyways, it's not like your followers actually watch streams.
>terrible singer
Her in the advent cover of Megitsune and her Whisper x3 cover where great anon, she's not terrible she's just retarded.
>>66641324
Both where good anon, it's not my problem you have a hate boner for Shiori that you can't see past that to realize that the girls enjoy each others company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66642805
Yes one channel and shared expenses for day to day life. I would absolutely count them as one channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>66642905
I'm asking if you would think it would be fair to compare their numbers/success to Bijou?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66643150
NTA, but yes? They are still reliant on being a single channel on the algo and it’s not as if the viewer math would work out to be 5k + 5k = 10k. It would be 4K of crossover + 2k uniques = 6k, it’s not the giga buff your retard brain has calculated

[Generic Anon No.]

>>66630420
Because of the following reasons:
1-The "Respect my collab choices" incident during debut
2-Takes a break one week after debut loosing all the momentum.
3-Was an absolute cunt to Fuwamoco during the first group collabs
4-Sucks at singing
5-Horrible game choices to the point the only reason people watch them is because of her autistic tangents
6- Goes into a longer break in december

[Anonymous No.]

>>66643341 (me)
This shit was literally hashed out back in the mid aughts with the original sub wars between combos like Nigahiga and Smosh vs singles like Kevjumba and Fred. A channel is a channel, regardless of the number of people supporting it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66643341
Funny thing is they are not even hitting their full potential yet. they only have access to a single PC. The moment they moved into a bigger space that can support 2 beefy PCs, I can imagine their workflow will be even faster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66643701
I wonder where they live that they can't have two computers. Like, how tiny must their room be?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66643150
>I'm asking if you would think it would be fair to compare their numbers/success to Bijou?
They get 3x the SCs, 5x the merchs. Their merchs at comiket sold out within 3 hours while bijou cant even sell out over 2 days. Thats the only shit cover cares about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66643341
So you're accepting that each is bringing in their own numbers, and the presence of both, together, brings in something additional '2k uniques', which is something that Nerissa, Shiori and Bijou all don't have for they're on their own, therefore it's not fair to compare them to Fuwamoco. Fuwamoco should be an outlier and not compared to the other three.

Bijou is the only one who's actually done really well in Advent, all things considered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66643766
Could be an issue with the power tripping if that much is put in a single room and them not wanting to go into two different rooms to stream together

[Anonymous No.]

Weird how in these threads the “criticism posts” go up in numbers but the IP stays the same
Its also like its the same retards samefagging

[Anonymous No.]

>>66643766
They are poorfags living in a cramped location. They even get noise complaints from their neighbors while streaming late at night. Is probably the reason why fuwawa doesnt stream when mococo is sick. She will disturb mococo's rest given how tiny their space is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66643901
>Bijou is the only one who's actually done really well in Advent, all things considered.
What cope is this?
hololive closet - Advent New Year
Shiori Novella New Year Outfit 505 $11.00 $5,555.00
Koseki Bijou New Year Outfit 469 $11.00 $5,159.00
Nerissa Ravencroft New Year Outfit 514 $11.00 $5,654.00
Fuwawa Abyssgard New Year Outfit 1293 $11.00 $14,223.00
Mococo Abyssgard New Year Outfit 1275 $11.00 $14,025.00
$44,616.00

[Anonymous No.]

>>66643901
No first anon here again to tell you the only reason both would pull in their on numbers in this example is because they would be going from two now established channels to one single channel and to cut Fuwamoco came from an established channel too. They came from a single channel with two hosts to a single channel with two hosts

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
even after removing the like or dislike for any of them she took 2 long ass breaks too soon, twitter spaces are for her current viewers and aren't going to bring anyone new

[Anonymous No.]

>>66644080
Going with that, would you agree that if one of them gets sick and the other streams on their own, sticking to their schedule without having to take time off, collecting (likely more) SCs out of sympathy and appreciation, that's something Nerissa, Shiori and Bijou can't do? Do you also agree that their workload is effectively halved, something else the other three aren't fortunate enough to have? Do you still think it's fair?

[Anonymous No.]

>minds her own business chilling in her own dark corner of the holo box
>has done literally nothing controversial (unless you hate people going on family trips)
>still gets daily thinly veiled hate threads 6 months after debut
Very odd

[Anonymous No.]

I saw we start a petition to move numberfags to >>>/trash/ where they belong with the other mentally ill

[Anonymous No.]

>>66644294
Proven wrong by numbers. Whine. Cope more retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66643928
They should already, by now with what they've collected so far be potentially able to buy a house.
They should just go for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66644343
Thanks for proving you're mentally ill
Congrats on being as ill as bronys and furries too
I'm gonna start calling you a number brony

[Anonymous No.]

>>66644259
There a many channel with Fuwamoco's exact set up IE two hosts on one channel that live together and share expenses. They decidedly do not stream anywhere near as often or consistently as Fuwamoco. Their success is built off not just one person being willing to put it an immense amount of effort to stream that much but two. Their workload is both halved between them but also doubled due to them needing to setup for two people not just one every stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>66644571
Talks shit. Get shit on with numbers. Go suck a dick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
She played one of my favorite indie horror games only to censor and talk over 90% of it

[Anonymous No.]

>>66644663
Why are you so mad brony?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66644522
They did mention aiming to stream minecraft together during march/april. So they are probably planning to move around then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66644586
I'm in no way saying Fuwamoco don't deserve their success. They're like a pair of Koyoris which we desperately needed in EN. I'm just saying it's not fair to compare their performance and success to their genmates, at least not directly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66644682
hololive closet - Advent New Year
Shiori Novella New Year Outfit 505 $11.00 $5,555.00
Koseki Bijou New Year Outfit 469 $11.00 $5,159.00
Nerissa Ravencroft New Year Outfit 514 $11.00 $5,654.00
Fuwawa Abyssgard New Year Outfit 1293 $11.00 $14,223.00
Mococo Abyssgard New Year Outfit 1275 $11.00 $14,025.00
$44,616.00

[Anonymous No.]

>>66644792
Cool you can copy and paste, did you learn this skill yesterday brony? Did your village finally fund a computer in the library?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66644830
>Cool you can copy and paste, did you learn this skill yesterday brony? Did your village finally fund a computer in the library?
hololive closet - Advent New Year
Shiori Novella New Year Outfit 505 $11.00 $5,555.00
Koseki Bijou New Year Outfit 469 $11.00 $5,159.00
Nerissa Ravencroft New Year Outfit 514 $11.00 $5,654.00
Fuwawa Abyssgard New Year Outfit 1293 $11.00 $14,223.00
Mococo Abyssgard New Year Outfit 1275 $11.00 $14,025.00
$44,616.00

[Anonymous No.]

oh no the brony is melting down

[Anonymous No.]

>>66640286
>she is bitch toward fwmc
bro i wanted her to be like that, it would be funnier that way, but she is unexpectedly kind toward fwmc like bro what are you smoking on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66645001
>expecting a nigger who gets his information from twitter screenshots to know anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>66644920
hololive closet - Advent New Year
Shiori Novella New Year Outfit 505 $11.00 $5,555.00
Koseki Bijou New Year Outfit 469 $11.00 $5,159.00
Nerissa Ravencroft New Year Outfit 514 $11.00 $5,654.00
Fuwawa Abyssgard New Year Outfit 1293 $11.00 $14,223.00
Mococo Abyssgard New Year Outfit 1275 $11.00 $14,025.00
$44,616.00

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630677
Even in the catalog you fear my girth

[Anonymous No.]

>numberbrony cant handle the bants so he just resorts to spamming

Wow they're not far off after all

[Anonymous No.]

>>66645201
What bants is there? The numbers speak for itself. Is either you do well or you dont. Thats it.
hololive closet - Advent New Year
Shiori Novella New Year Outfit 505 $11.00 $5,555.00
Koseki Bijou New Year Outfit 469 $11.00 $5,159.00
Nerissa Ravencroft New Year Outfit 514 $11.00 $5,654.00
Fuwawa Abyssgard New Year Outfit 1293 $11.00 $14,223.00
Mococo Abyssgard New Year Outfit 1275 $11.00 $14,025.00
$44,616.00

[Anonymous No.]

At long last, we can see, who is literally ruining every thread on this board.
Will the mods do something about it? No, they hate vtubers and so do these dirt dwellers

[Anonymous No.]

>>66644792
That fuwamoco math, I'm sorry but are you retarded? That's not how it works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66636854
jesus they really do obliterate their genmates at everything. I bet every day Yagoo just rolls over in his pile of money and is overjoyed he finally took a chance on them and let them in. Best hire in years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
She went on a multiple-week honeymoon like 6 months into her career. While the rest of Advent was collabing and building up momentum as a gen, she left her fans behind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66645001
That's honestly one of only main complaints about shiori is that I think she's too overly polite with the other girls, so far nerissa and maybe mori now are the only ones she can actually banter with

[Anonymous No.]

>>66637082
retard, who gives a shit? EVERYONE always has a previous stream where they get SCs as well, whether it was 4 hours ago or 12 hours ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66645480
thats really not a lot of money
i know it's hard for third worlders to imagine such a concept but, that's not even a raindrop in the bucket
these girls are also contractors being shafted 2 other ways in the pie chart, so no, none of them are millionares

[Anonymous No.]

>>66640729
Not every wave has 5 members, moron. That's not a rule anywhere. There have been plenty of instances where there weren't 5 debuting together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66640827
that's what I love about Fuwamoco. They know this is it. This is their golden fucking ticket to a life of luxury, and they aren't going to let anyone or anything stop them. They know what its like to be poor-ass nobody scrubs and they don't want to go back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66645695
>luxury
yeah a two bedroom house in the suburbs if thats what your life of luxury is kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>66641324
This. She doesn't play along with FWMC or Biboo's silliness or Nerissa's flirting. She feels like the odd one out at all times, like that co-worker nobody likes but you still have to get along with to keep the workplace pleasant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66645771
It's called being a "straight man" schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>66642284
they are literally one human you idiot. They're attached at the hip. They eat each others food, they live together, they share everything. There is no 'splitting', they probably have the same damn bank account.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66634988
This has always been cope, they have one channel so you count it as one channel, the only reason to split it in half is to make the others seem better

[Anonymous No.]

>holo vs holo
>180 replies 13 images
Jannies just gave up on the board?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66645878
The jannies are on the side of the catalog spammers and always have been

[Anonymous No.]

>>66643766
they mentioned having one hanging lightbulb and when it went out half the place was just in the dark until their dad came over to fix it because they couldn't even change it on their own. they are extreme poorfags, and helpless in worldly matters. God they're perfect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66645547
I didn't mean for this one, specific incident genius. I meant in general, they are raking in far more cash than all their genmates, they are cash cows.

[Anonymous No.]

I hope Shiori uses her nepo ticket to get Eilene on hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66645512
>she left her fans behind
I feel like when most of the girls go on vacation they just go radio silent while shiori tweeted, had daily youtube posts, and she did like 8 twitter spaces in a row including on christmas eve, christmas day, and new years

[Anonymous No.]

>>66645733
when you're in a one room apartment re-using tea bags for weeks then yeah. also, kek yourself if you think they can't afford better than a suburbs house very soon. They'll be multimillionaires very quickly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66645586
JP:
>0
5
>1
5
>2
5
>GAMERS
3/4
>3
5
>4
5
>5
5
>6
5
>DEV_IS
>1
5

EN:
>1
5
>IRyS
>2
5
>3
((((((((((((4)))))))))))) I WONDER WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS GEN?!?!?!?!?!?!

ID:
>1
3
>2
3
>3
3

CH:
>1
3
>2
3

EN3 is the only one that stands out for breaking the norm of its branch.

....hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Anonymous No.]

>>66646121
its called begging for scraps after she realized how badly she fucked up, and her numbers stagnated compared to the others

[Anonymous No.]

>>66646195
conveniently glossing over IRyS and the homoENs? I know counting to 5 is tough for SEA, use your fingers

[Anonymous No.]

>>66646260
IRyS was her own thing. If anything her being officially put into Council as Promise is even more proof they're schizo about 5 members in EN after Sana left.
>holoENs
They don't exist to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66646135
The most subbed vtuber in all of Japan lives in a apartment by herself

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>>66630420
It's legitimately her autism that filters people. People say the twins are hard for ESLs to understand, but even native English speakers don't know what Shiori is talking about because her tangents often make no sense whatsoever. I often do understand Shiori but she genuinely makes my head hurt sometimes with the things she goes on about. Plus there's the fact that Shiori is ESL herself, she said so in her earlier streams. For example, she pronounces theater as deader and tongs as thongs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66646135
>Multimillionaire
hahahaha maybe in Indonesian shekels

[Anonymous No.]

Numberfags are subhuman

[Anonymous No.]

>>66646341
Oh I didn't say they *would* do anything fancy, just that they *could*. They seem like the type that won't ever be buying mansions and yachts either, too autistic to move away from the comfort zone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66646378
They live in japan so yes, they'll be multimillionaires

[Anonymous No.]

>>66642811
>1 (one) joke
Once you go black, we don't want you back.
Once.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66646452
Since when did Japan become the "northwest passage"

[Anonymous No.]

>>66646378
have you not seen how much holo girls make in SCs alone? Millions for the top girls. Then a salary. Merch. Tips. Memberships. If you don't think FWMC will have millions of dollars in a year or two you're delusional.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66646522
none of the girls are millionares, i work for millionares in accounting who own 5-10+ businesses and they're barely scraping past a couple million after taxes

[Anonymous No.]

>>66646482
like they're really going to doxx themselves and tell everyone their actual location? even approximate? Weeb twins would stand out rather easily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66646482
Since they get mostly USD supas and Yen is cheap now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66646586
Tell them to get a better accountant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66646602
if you dont know what they indicate by that series of two words, youre a retard
anyone with an ear for english accents knows their regional accent

[Anonymous No.]

>>66646640
Sorry youre too retarded to realize money doesn't just end up in your bank account. It has to get raped first by everyone's hands

[Anonymous No.]

>>66646586
maybe gura is or was. But if they're millionaires is probably on Japanese currency not in u.s.d.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66644586
>>66644768
Not to mention the others in Advent didn't have a hype train to ride in on for existing. You got other channels making videos about FWMO's success story with the only thing changing from when they got fired was getting in hololive. Bijou and the rest of Advent had to prove themselves the gamer, the raven singer, the capable leader, etc. FWMO didn't have any ice to break with the audience, had the double the manpower, a sob backstory, stronger JP support and a new twin angle no one in Hololive was doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
You didn't respect her collab choices and interactions with FlayGOD

[Anonymous No.]

She had the advantage of being a
One of the oldest oldfags in vtuber history and having so much old connections with both jp and en vtubing. She took zero advantage of that besides a really boring history segment she tried to do during debut week. She also took a long ass break during her debut month which totally killed the hype for her but self sabotage has been her thing for years so not surprised at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>66634311
Dmc is cool and all but where are the autism sims

[Anonymous No.]

>>66646782
just because you were doing something longer doesnt mean you were doing it better. this is a retarded correlation. Several HoloJPs who got in after the covid rush have been "doing it for a long time" too, it didn't matter

[Anonymous No.]

>>66646742
>interactionS
schizo...

[Anonymous No.]

>>66646727
True. To be fair to them, they did take full advantage of this massive platform from day 1 because they know after Hololive and vtubing they're utterly screwed career-wise. They've ridden the hype wave very well and it's exactly what you should do. Shoiri with her breaks and the others really didn't go all-out like Fuwamoco did. More than Council though, thankfully, for Council knew they could do fuck all and be successful because of Myth's hard work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66640795
>>66641300
QRD?

[Anonymous No.]

Is this thread even about shiori anymore?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66647159
Made a quick 'once you go black' joke. Brown-skinned people took that as Shiori literally getting fucked before, during and after every stream by a gang of black men with 8 inch cocks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
streaming increases popularity

[Anonymous No.]

>>66647292
>streaming increases popularity

[Anonymous No.]

>>66647255
Which of course is their fantasy and why they are projecting it on the funny rambling Hologirl

[Anonymous No.]

>>66646798
Idk I think biboo plays games she thinks pebbles would like and game she personally enjoys like fromsoft titles. Me personally I'm waiting for her to stream GTA 5 rdr2 and Yakuza but it looks like it will never happen. So I have to settle for Mori and bae.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66646195
JP 0 started with one then added two more a year later and with a third added at the later half of that year with the fifth member only joining quite recently. JP 1 had six members originally as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>66646727
You do know biboo and shiori had a higher debut ccv compared to FWMC?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66647691
You do know that biboo and shiori were spirit bombed by the entire JP box right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66647255
The thing is shiori makes several equally as out of line jokes nearly every stream but certain people on this board really seem to obsess only over bbc ones

[Anonymous No.]

>>66647422
I'd like to see someone in EN finally finish lobotomy corp. Its been 3 years since Ina's last stream of it

[Anonymous No.]

>>66648070
Shiori and Nerissa both say a lot of brown-skin 'yabs' during most streams. They never get yab threads, proving Jakarta and Manila don't watch streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66648070
She talks about incest and cannibalism constantly but the bugmen only picked focused on one thing they could market on this shit board

[Anonymous No.]

>>66635394
Says who? Your imagination?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66648340
>incest
is she an imouto/bigbro enjoyer
If so I will member immediately

[Anonymous No.]

>>66648418
Yes, she clearly wishes she had a big brother to dote on her and have sexual tension with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66648418

[Anonymous No.]

Her last chance to incline was to get shipped with Nerissa, but Kiara killed that possibly

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630903
>Fuwamoco are for lonely 30+ year olds.
Yeah, me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66646610
By your logic my middle class income would make me a millionaire in the Philippines or Indonesia but not in a place that matter like here in the United for example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66650054
United State for example typo fuck this phone

[Anonymous No.]

>>66646643
of course I know. Everyone knows who has ever seen a map. But why would they tell the world where they are when they are extremely recognizable? falseflag

[Anonymous No.]

>>66645820
imagine the sex

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
She fell off for a reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66651404
She never fell on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66649178
>>66648928
it's over for me bros I'm unable to resist

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
Virginity

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
She has autism, so I'm not watching someone who's just me but female

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630692
They only care about their top donors

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
>What do they have which she doesn't?
Personality.
Not to mention that like 80% of the content and memes about her are purely due to her looks which make her a schizo yandere begging for impregnation, which just couldn't be farther from the truth.
I don't envy Kayahara. The other chuubas somehow don't have that issue, even if they have the exact same eyes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
She put her foot in her mouth on debut which led to people doxxing her which led to people coming to their own opinions on her after just her debut stream.
Not saying if they were right or not but that plus her going on break so soon knee capped her growth.

[Anonymous No.]

They're easily the most well-known Hololive EN members in the Vtuber community.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66641620
Kronii has male tier humor and wit. there needs to be a 4 way collab between them all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630462
The pedophile brain doesn't even notice the mention of fwmc
>>66630533
add yuko to this

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
>What do they have which she doesn't?
streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
A loli model.

Also, Shiori's model is SEX but her voice just doesn't suit it. If she also had SEX voice then us coomers will naturally flock to her channel. Who knows, she might give a JOI stream. Hope she does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
She’s quirky and edgy. And not in a ethot larping way, in an autistic way. Only explanation I have

[Anonymous No.]

>>66631723
Anon don't you know what compound is? This all goes back to the Mori advice about taking it easy, yet she proceeds to work her ass off the entire year. There are times when you push through and debut month would be one of them. I will say the break was in her favour though since her debut almost killed off unicorn potential.

[Anonymous No.]

I like Shiori but her content filters me hard, I think it's the same for most people. She's still in a very good position and you're a numbermonkey

[Anonymous No.]

>>66634010
>channel up in 2015
what the FUCK is this schizo shit behind her?

[Anonymous No.]

She needs to get more comfortable with collabs. That would help her with exposure. Right now she shuts up and dials her humor way down. Pretty sure she is aware of this and working on it though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
Their content is completely different, but also Shiori goes on tangents a lot and not a lot of people like that. Bijou is 100% gameplay and zoomer memes and Fuwamoco is 100% weeb shit and idols.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66642284
You've lost your right to use the word "cope" against anyone, you coping nigger.
FWMC is one channel, a package deal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66630420
she is intentionally pruning her audience of people who dont deserve her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66677169
She's doing 3 collabs this week, including her first 1-on-1 collab with a Non-Advent, that still feels unreal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66648928
>>66649178
She also had a member only live where she roleplayed as your yandere onee-chan who is a maid/secretely an assassin. Or something like that, it has been months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66643913
computers draw like no power, even with a 4090 compared to most appliances

[Anonymous No.]

>>66682177
Is it archived by any chance?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66646586
I'm a millionaire on paper and I live in a trailer in my parents backyard. Top holo's are definitely millionaires too, but being one isn't what it used to be...