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66357632 No.66357632 [Reply] [Original]

So is Pomu coming back or not?
She says she isn't, I think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PpiixiIq8g

But then there's Irounmouse and Nina seemingly hinting she will be back

https://twitter.com/ironmouse/status/1743301249250861458
https://twitter.com/Grxit/status/1743291090554302582

>> No.66357663

>>66357632
You are genuinely naive if you actually believe she focus on her studies and quit VTubing

>> No.66357695

Listen to her original announcement. She's coming back. She just doesn't want obnoxious beggars and keyfabe breakers talking about her life as though they know it better than her. Probably what she's saying here just means she hasn't decided anything yet, so just shut up and wait.

>> No.66357719

>>66357632
She's female that got a taste of the good life. She'll be back.

>> No.66357778

Assume she won't come back, will move on and leave us losers forever to be an adult, and then be surprised and happy if she does show up again.

>> No.66357799

I don’t know how
>absolute
the state of NijiEN is, but her saying she’d wanted to graduate a year prior seems like she really won’t re-enter the field. That very statement could be more misdirection, but there certainly was enough to cause menhera before even 2023 passed.

>> No.66357827

>>66357632
It's clear she's coming back. But which company she joins will depend on if she actually goes back to school.

If she doesn't actually take classes, she's a lock for Vshojo.
If she takes classes, she'll get into hololive since she'll have at least a year of down time waiting for Gen 4 to debut.

>> No.66358123

>>66357827
Luna is the only "used goods" yagoo was willing to take from Nijisanji.
Pomu has NO CHANCE and is locked in for Vshojo.

>> No.66358810

>>66357632
>Is Pomu gonna do the 9 to 5 grind, Monday to Friday, racking up a solid 40 hours a week? Instead of chilling at home and making $$$ playing games?

>> No.66359219

>>66357719
>not wanting to go back to corpo office life is a woman thing
The second I found a job where I can work from home, I never looked back.

>> No.66359247

Pomu will never be back.
Mint will be back however.

>> No.66359361

>>66359247
>Mint will be back however
the ideal scenario.
of course pomu won't say that she will just stream under a new name or at some new corpo etc.

>> No.66359602

>>66358123
Explain why, Nijisisters are crippled, Pomu woul gladly tow the GCDCT line in order to pursue her dream as an idol and she and Kiara would be na unstoppable pair.
Plus, no thanks to Mori's ineptitude, HoloEN has the perms to Metal Gear.

>> No.66359668

Join holo
Just fucking do it, that is where she has always belonged. Join Holo.
She will make more money in 1 year than she made in her entire Niji career. She will set herself up for retirement and never have to work again. She will be around some likeminded girls and be the idol of her dreams.

I believe she can do it. Don't settle for Vshojo, join Holo instead

>> No.66359764

>>66359602
>Explain why
After Luna, there has been no other Niji's that have been hired by Yagoo and give them a better life. That leads me to believe (I'm sure others will say the same if they give a shit about this thread) that Yagoo and the current head of Niji have come to an agreement that they will never hired ex talents from eachother.

And honestly speaking, how long is Pomu willing to wait for EN4 (when it ever restarts back up) before she becomes irrelevant? She's better joining a company where she has a lot of friends (plus her oshi according to some anons) instead of waiting god knows how long to join EN4.

And before you say "so you have no proof. I accept your concession", why don't you go through the archives on the reason why Hololive will never accept another Niji in their ranks.

>> No.66359900

>>66359764
Also forgot to add, fans (if they can be called that) genuinely don't want Pomu joining because they don't want something that use to fawn over Luca. But they forget that Luna herself is "used goods" because she was originally a member of Niji.

>> No.66359945

>>66357632
I don't want her to come back.
I hope she invested a good portion of her earnings and never has to toil for a living again.
She can go and enjoy a free life, maybe find someone special to share it with and perhaps even have her own young to raise with them.
But only if it's up to her. She earned her freedom and deserves to live life her way.

>> No.66360006

>>66357632
She fucked with some minds by saying she was applying for other jobs, but she seemed to mean it to mean as a vtuber.
Also modern american college/university is so braindead easy i doubt she's even remotely worried
>t man who is basically dropping 14k to buy a Master's degree, the classes are so easy

>> No.66360050

>>66359219
I think you and I have vastly different definitions of rhe good life. Abiloty to work from home is a minimum now.

>> No.66360087

>>66359668
Vshojo has their own strengths, don't sell them short by implying it's settling when in many ways it's a better deal for the streamer.

>> No.66360088

>mint is coming back
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO THE WHITE HOKAGE MONKEY THEN?

>> No.66360131

She'll redebut somewhere, but that won't be for a few months, so taking classes or picking up a side gig in the meantime is perfectly reasonable

>> No.66360210

>>66359900
The second she gets in, all of that will be forgotten. Also keep in mind most holofans are not schizo parodies of a unicorn, even if /here/ antis her forever and posts Luca cuck fantasies at her fans, 99% of her audience will never notice.
I don't even say that because I want her to go to Holo. I'm a vshojofan and want her to go there. But even I know she would do fine in Holo, just like everybody else that did male collabs or other roommate stuff before joining.

>> No.66360261

>>66360210
honestly I think the Luca shit was so bad it kind of poisoned Pomu from ever being hired by Holo.
There were people warning her about that you know.

>> No.66360379

>>66359764
>god knows
i remember

>> No.66360485

>>66360210
>>all of that will be forgotten
DYRBI? You also seem to be forgetting there:s more than just Lucashit involved in this equation.

>> No.66360493

>>66359602
thanks for reminding me about Sneaking...
and the copium when it was just the silhouette too

>> No.66360600

>>66357632
Pomu in Hololive is so unrealistic I think Sana ungraduating has to happen first.
Only thing more out there is Rushia being revived.

>> No.66360656

>>66360210
>An actual sensible and normal reply
Now I actually feel bad about my earlier posts now. I was actually expecting you to be like all those other "faggots" yet you surprised me with a sensible and mature reply.

I'll admit I "cannot" explain why Pomu will never be in hololive. All I can squawk is what anons on here have said that Luna is the "only" used goods yagoo has accepted into Hololive and from then on, no one else has been accepted. I will seriously consider (although I doubt it still) stop going on 4chan altogether is Pomu can wait long enough to get accepted into Hololive.

Again I apologise for my terrible behaviour earlier.

>> No.66360671

The problem with hololive is there is a new gen every year. If they already have a lineup for 2024 (they usually have a lineup 6 to 4 months in advance) then you're waiting at least a year.

>> No.66360689

>>66360656
Forgot to add (again), I will be happy with whatever company Pomu joins next.

>> No.66360709

>>66360689
You'll be happy, but you'll be more happy if it's Holo in the long run.

>> No.66360748

>>66360689
I'm hoping for VAllure personally.

>> No.66360769

>>66357632
When she says she isn't coming back, there's an unspoken parenthetical that says (*as Pomu). She'll come back as someone else, so its technically true.

>> No.66360855

>>66360709
> but you'll be more happy if it's Holo in the long run.
I'm about to blow your mind anon. I genuinely am not "bothered" because I don't watch most of VTubers to begin with. Its not that I hate them or anything, its just that my mind is on so many things these days that I just can't keep my attention span on them.

>> No.66360888

>>66360656
No worries anon. Anyway I hope you're right, if she literally can't join it would make Henya and Matara very happy to have her as a member, I just don't want to have false confidence that it's impossible.

>> No.66360907

>>66360087
yeah, but it's not an idol company...

>> No.66360940

She's going to school to become a maid. No more VTubing.

>> No.66361071

>>66359602
>Pomu woul gladly tow the GCDCT line
You sure about that? She seemed glued to Luca last time I checked.

>> No.66361087

>>66360940
A real Arabian oiler got to her she just has to wear a fairy costume and chains, the only way to stop this is Kiara travelling across the world kicking ass to save her.

>> No.66361111

>>66360087
lol, delusional. If people could pick freely, nobody would pick Vshojo over Hololive. (Ironlung and Kson aside perhaps.)

>> No.66361138

>>66357632
She will but not on vshojo, the people she mocked were the ones saying she's basically confirmed there, not the ones saying she would return

>> No.66361166
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>>66360748
>recreates the /b/omu pictures
Holy fuck, I can only get so erect

>> No.66361190

>>66359602
It was a different time and Luna was an absolute nobody in niji, she wasn't even poached by holo, she just did the audition like everyone else

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66361267

>>66361071
>You sure about that?
yes.
she's professional enough to adapt to her working environment and play whatever character her new employer demands her to play. don't worry about Luca, it will be as if he never existed in the 1st place. or that person known as "Pomu Rainpuff".

>> No.66361368

>>66361071
Look like the "last time you checked" was in some garbage catalog bait thread instead of watching streams

>> No.66361437

>>66360210
Most of those will be forgotten. Some will stick no matter what. There would definitely be mixed opinions about this at first.
But the bigger problem is actually on niji side. When Luna joined Hololive she got lots of hate from nijiniggers. Nijiniggers are well know for harassing people that make their company look bad and moving to their biggest rival will definitely not be well accepted.
If Pomu joins HoloEN her first few months will be basically like walking on eggshells.

>> No.66361441

>>66361111
Yes, they would. Especially large indies would rather retain their IP and autonomy.

>> No.66361448
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66361448

>>66357632
She is joining her sister at V4Mirai and she will finally get to do a lot of 3D concerts

>> No.66361544

>>66361437
Mixed opinions about what? Not a single holo fan would hate pomu. Maybe your "mixed" opinions will come from the niji side but definitely not from the holo side.

>> No.66361566

>>66361190
what do you mean? poaching is whenever one talent switches from one agency to a different one according to this board - regardless of circumstances or motivation

>> No.66361621

>>66361267
thats so sad
what if we never learn about the real Maid Rainpuff, it's just a series of facades she puts on

>> No.66361665

>>66361544
Yes, I’m sure the ALL OUT WAR won’t be brought up every single day.

>> No.66361677

Someone explain this luca thing to me? I don't know who that is and I've never watched a pomu stream that had males in it. The most I've seem pomu collabing with is like elira and finana or with selen.

>> No.66361729

>>66360050
That's completely subjective because it will always vary from a case by case basis.
Unless you mean jobs that allow you to work from how are limited. In which case, that's wrong because hybrid working is the standard now.
>>66359361
You should never believe what a vtuber says under that corporate banner because they're literally not allowed to say otherwise. We don't know what she's going to do but there's no way in hell she's quitting permanently.

>> No.66361765

>>66361677
It's just unhinged cuckposting, ignore it.

>> No.66361777

>>66361138
There is so much retarded shit on Twitter, people speculating and claiming because x said y then z is confirmed, regurgitating rrats, etc., that what she said can't be taken to mean "the most common narrative is totally false and will never happen".
Assuming that this
>https://twitter.com/Grxit/status/1743291090554302582
is actually a reference to Pomu (many people believe it's Mika), even there Matara say "I will try to get her /in/". Try. There's no deal to move to VShojo, even if believe this narrative, but maybe Matara will try. The most straightforward explanation is simply that Pomu is telling the truth, she has no plans beyond getting a bit of education, and will make a decision about redebut at a later date.

>> No.66361825

>>66361544
Not exactly hate. It's more about expectations.
People would look at her based on her previous content. Judge her based on it. She can't just start with blank page.

>> No.66362064

>>66361677
He's a male and kinda obnoxious, that's it

>> No.66362126
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>>66357663
She'll return, but not as a vtuber

>> No.66362198

>>66361729
If she wanted to hint at it she would've done it already, Mysta never even tried to hide that he was going back to streaming as soon as he was out, people like to mention Nina as proof of lying but she went months before coming back and vshojo only approached her after she was already out, they'll never straight out spell it but anyone already planning on returning will definitely say it

>> No.66362252

>>66362198
>If she wanted to hint at it she would've done it already
That's the thing. She already did in her graduation announcement stream.

>> No.66362262

>>66362126
It's more likely she'll get a solo debut at hololive than becoming a facestreamer

>> No.66362289

For those who don't know, she said she's just going back to school for a certification not a full degree or anything
https://youtu.be/AbskrKRYt9I?t=12928

>> No.66362369

>>66362289
You have to assume it's JLPT.

>> No.66362371

>>66362252
Not only she didn't but she complained about the people reading between the lines, when I say "hint" I mean shamelessly announcing you'll return just like Mysta did

>> No.66362440

>>66362126
She will return as a fleshstreamer with a feet cam

>> No.66362570

>>66362371
She literally said in her announcement that she's looking to go into a different creative direction. That's not reading between the lines, that's just counting. As I said before, she'll be back but we don't know as what or where.

>> No.66362644

>>66359247
fantome pain...

>> No.66362714

>>66362371
>I'm leaving to pursue other creative avenues
>my next adventure
>I still have so much more I want to do
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure.

>> No.66362812

>>66357632
Pomu is earmarked for Holo EN4. She's just waiting and killing time until the debut.

>> No.66363009

>>66362126
yeah, she's joining vshojo

>> No.66363049

>>66362714
Don't forget that she said she hopes to cross paths with you soon down the road. What more do you need?

>> No.66363233

>>66357632
She says she's going back to school, and she has no reason to lie about it. So its safe to take her on face value. But unless she buries herself under fulltime coursework, she will have time to continue as a vtuber and she is not dumb enough to throw away her meal ticket over Anykara being black.
Her whales are Gura six months ago level of loyal. So long as she streams once a week she will never be hurting for cash.

>> No.66363265
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66363265

As long as she's happy, I'll accept her decision, even if it means I'll never see her again. I wouldn't wish hololive on my worst enemy, but if that's really what she wants...

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66363391

>>66357632
Pretty obvious she's applying to Hololive and for the year they take to do the whole audition and new gen debut process she is going back to school to earn a degree and get better at Japanese

>> No.66363401

>>66363265
There's reasons to believe it. Pomu is an idolfag, it may be that her dream is to have a big sololive in front of a crowd with all her biggest fans cheering for her. A lot of vtubers are like that, they don't give a shit about streaming and see it as beneath them, they want to be a real star.
Then again, there's reasons to not believe it too, Holo doesn't always give the members what they want and even if they do it takes years of grinding. Plus it's not like she can't get a concert in VShojo or as an indie, she just has to pay out of pocket and it won't be as big.

>> No.66363428

Nobody in their right mind is going to throw away their main source of income at a relatively easy entertainment job to retool with a cert and become a wagie again. Flesh idols do stuff like that because they get expelled from the industry after getting too old, but that's not how vtubing works (look at the hag love on this board). At any point she could have said she's fully retiring and she hasn't, and she's only described school as a limited venture. That might sound like cope, but something about all of this doesn't add up, and that indicates to me that she isn't being wholly open or truthful about what she's saying, maybe for contract reasons.

>> No.66363469

>>66357632
>applies to Holo
>while she waits she is going back to school and doing some indie stuff on the sides
makes sense

>> No.66363626

>>66363428
It's safe to assume anything a vtuber says while under the Nijisanji name is mostly exaggerated truths, toxic positivity or just an outright lies. (See Zaion having to lie multiple times)
Not through a fault of their own but because of contractual reasons and company culture.
For all we know, the staff could have told her "your fans are speculating that you're going to a competitor. Please tell them something to make them stop as it harms our brand image" or some shit like that.

>> No.66364288

She'll return for sure, because this >>66362714 and this >>66363428. As for why she told not to speculate about her future, first for the obvious reason not to harm the company she's still in, second, it's like with "limited edition" stuff, when you know you won't be able to access it any time in the future, you're more prone to spend money on it at the moment, in this case give donations/buy merch before graduation.

>> No.66365161

>>66361190
>>66359764
So in other words, just because no one else has jumped lines since Luna, it can't happen?
Not good enough. If Pomu applies and Kiara gets involved to nepo her, she's getting in.
The only downside is Nijisanister and tribal holofags.

>> No.66365184

>>66363401
Hey I just checked, pomu put out a total of 2 solo covers in her 3 years at Nijisanji
Is she actually interested in being an idol or she's just hard cucked by Niji management and probs have many unreleased songs?

>> No.66365292

>>66363469
But how would you explain Mika's reaction in her graduation stream then?
>>66365184
She's getting cockblocked by her own management, she even said she's not sure whether her swan song will drop before graduates

>> No.66365355

>>66359602
Another thread, another guy seething about Mori out of nowhere

>> No.66365371

>>66365184
Hard cucked by niji management. I don't follow their corpo stuff too much but something shifted within management around the time Luxiem debuted and all that idol stuff was out behind the trash dump of the backburner.

>> No.66365437

>>66365371
How did maria get 3 songs and 20 covers out then.
Did she actually fuck one of their managers.

>> No.66365562

>>66365437
Is Maria pursuing idol stuff? I don't know since I don't watch her

>> No.66365566

>>66361437
Most of the people still around that care about Holo EN like Pomu. Luxiem's audience has receded like the tide.

>> No.66365598

>>66365292
>But how would you explain Mika's reaction in her graduation stream then?
Could be something about them being in Japan at the same time so they can meet up.

>> No.66365657

>>66365184
She wishes she could do more music and stand on a stage and all that, but NijiEN made that virtually impossible right from the start.
She straight up said she's been thinking about leaving for a year now, that was most likely just around when she started realizing none of her aidoru dreams will ever be fulfilled at NijiEN.

>> No.66365745
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66365745

She's definitely joining Vshojo, not Holo, she has more friends there, she barely only has 1 in Holo.

>> No.66365918

>>66365745
Pretty sure it's going to be vShojo, but only because it's FAR easier and a guaranteed thing vs applying to Hololive and waiting half a year only to be turned down.
If she had the pick and could start at either of them the day after her graduation she abso-fucking-lutely would go with Hololive, it aligns far more with what her goals appear to be.

>> No.66365936

>>66365745
Idk why people keeps bringing up kiara when she herself got ghosted by hololive management lmao.

>>66365657
looked at her channel, 1 lazulight original, 2 solo covers, 2 collab cover, 1 full nijiEN covers, 1 lazulight cover for a total of 7 songs.

Nerissa released 7 solo covers in 6 months. That's fucking grim

>> No.66366004

>>66365918
Well yeah. Everyone but the top 0.001% would jump on the Holo train in a second if they had the choice

>> No.66366079

>>66365745
It's not just about where her friends are. After all, she had friends in NijiEN too and she's graduating. It may be that HoloEN will give her the career she wants, and she can still collab with her friends that are in VShojo.
Like I keep trying to tell people, the most likely explanation is that she's not lying and has no plans. She's keeping her options open.

>> No.66366236

>>66365745
>vShojo
>message one of her vShojo friends on Discord and she get a contract within a week and your model within a few months no questions asked
>HoloEN
>apply on the website, wait months not knowing anything until recruitment staff eventually gets back to you, go through a lengthy audition phase with multiple interviews and mock projects spanning another month, get turned down - you now wasted half a year you could have spent building a channel and making money
it's really not any more complicated than that. friendships don't matter, it's a matter of time. pomu is too big to apply to hololive, in the time the auditions and debut would take she could make shitloads of money as an indie already, she doesn't need the holo boost to have an audience like your average 2-3view

>> No.66366308

whatever she choose please dont holo.
i prefer unknown chuuba literal 2 views than someone already popular.
i want to experience idol journey

>> No.66366332

>>66357695
She's a woman and doesn't want the others acting as if she's backstabbed them even though that is what happened

>> No.66366385

>>66366236
If she wanted to be a holo, it's not like she couldn't be active or working while applying.

>> No.66366447

People acting as if Hololive is even a choice lmao
That's not something you just go "I'll be a Holo tomorrow" like vShojo

>> No.66366449

>>66366236
Everything you said is correct, so I think she's at the very least going to commission a new model and come back as an indie if not debut directly into VShojo. It's still the most likely option even if she btfo'd vshojobeggars. Maybe she will also apply to Holo and go through the auditions in 2025 but she's not going to sit on her hands for a year plus and fade into irrelevance without a guarantee, which it's really really unlikely they would ever give.

>> No.66366497

>>66366308
They're idols like 2 times a year for Holofes and anniversary lives. Any other time there just like all the other streamers. Blue dorito brainrot is too real.

>> No.66366504

>>66366236
Well she could stream indie while also applying to Hololive. I don't think staff there is stupid, they'd absolutely take someone like Pomu that's very popular and has never caused any drama

>> No.66366699

>>66366497
If you want to push for music and invest time and effort into it you can push it a lot further than just those couple "mandatory" events.
Most Holos just don't really want to focus on music, they do it because it's expected of them. On the flip side you have girls like Watame that had 16 orisongs in 2023 and got at least half a dozen 3D lives ontop of all their guest appearances.

>> No.66366730

>>66365936
look how many covers someone like Maria has, it's totally possible but Pomu was never really that musically inclined frankly

>> No.66366896

>>66366730
Yeah, there's no way it's all down to management. I think she likes to larp as an idol more than she actually likes idol work.

>> No.66366946

>>66366730
I looked at millie and enna and they also had 6-7 covers out.
Nina also said something about releasing a song every month (she never did) and got the boot
Maria seems like the exception here.

>> No.66367032

>>66366699
Kiara literally said she got denied from doing 3D anon.
3D lives are reserved for the best of the best in the company, not everyone gets it just because they want to.

>> No.66367107

>>66366946
Meloco and Kotoka have released that many even though they've only been around for a year, can't say for millie but I feel like Enna just dropped having any music ambition at some point, Nina probably wanted to cover western songs but those are mostly NG for Japanese corpos

>> No.66367191

>>66366946
>Nina also said something about releasing a song every month (she never did) and got the boot
It was six songs within a year actually but yeah, absolutely zero came out of it.
Meanwhile in three months since Vshojo debut she got out two covers and an original, and was asking around for ideas whom she could contact to try and do a sea shanty song (another thing she talked about as Nina but never got a green light for)

>> No.66367258

>>66366236
I dont think you get it, anon. The girl wants to be an idol, she wants 3D concerts, she wants to release songs and not wait a year for a message from mane-san and she wants 3D concerts.
Cover is seeing how their biggest competitor in the EN chuuba scene is accelerating down and they can get one of the biggest EN chuubas like Pomu who fits like a glove for essentially free. I don't think Yagoo will honor any imaginary "gentlemen's agreement" if he can make Cover even bigger.
>inb4 what about non-competes
Anycolor doesn't own the voice or the personality behind Pomu. They would have no grounds to sue her.

>> No.66367282

>>66367032
Kiara bitched because she can't just say "I want a 3D live" and the company bends over backwards to make it happen for her next month. Take Bae if you want an example from EN that does her prep work and how often she shows up in main channel and 3D stuff.
Kiara quite literally said she tried to book slots for a birthday 3D live "3 months in advance" and tried to act like that should be more than enough time - spoilers, it's not. To bring back the Watame example she already had her studio time for the entirety of 2024 booked by Oct 2023. Everyone wants to do 3d stuff so you need to sign on early and stay actively pushing and advocating for your projects, you can't just let it slide and expect management do plan stuff for you.

>> No.66367284

>>66357632
Honestly, who cares?

Pomufags, yes, but that's about it. As a whole, she's had less impact on VTubing than someone like Kronii or Ironmouse.

>> No.66367385

>>66367284
>Kronii
Her impact to vtubing is that she's drawn by Wada Arco. That's where the impact ends.
Not even a Kronii anti.

>> No.66367397

>>66367282
You getting your stats mixed here. She got her birthday 3d party out. She asked for anniversary which got denied, then she asked what about next year + 1 for myth, they just straight up ghosted her
And those arent even 3D lives with concert tickets like the one Watame has. That's the one she said she's never gonna get.

>> No.66367501

>>66367258
She can do all of that in VShojo, it just won't be as big or as nice. It's really a question of how big her ego is.
You're also overestimating how much Holo needs her, any of the billions of 2views that apply "fit like a glove" too, if Pomu really is aiming to be the biggest idol ever she needs Holo a lot more than Holo needs her.

>> No.66367514

>>66367397
>even 3D lives with concert tickets like the one Watame has
You can count the physical solo lives that have ever happened within Hololive on your fingers. They require a shitload of investment from the talent, Cover, sponsorships, etc. Even Suisei has only had 1 so far, Watame is the first to get a 2nd one end of this month. Those are very special and not what the discussion here is about at all. If Kiara wants one of those she'd have to push music as her main goal way fucking harder, make herself available to Japan, network a LOT more, and just in general VASTLY increase her popularity. It's not just up to Cover staff - no venue and sponsors are going to take her right now.

>> No.66367575

>>66367514
>>66367397
the closest EN Holo (outside of Mori obviously) to a solo live is unironically Bae just because she's in Japan and works hard as fuck at building a brand and networking

>> No.66367607

>>66365355
>Another thread, another deadbeat damage control out of no where

>> No.66367628

>>66367258
Noncompetes are still legal and can be contractually binding but I have a hard time imagining why he would've agreed to it when only Niji would benefit from it

>> No.66367647

>>66365745
vshojo is truly the animal shelter for homeless vtuber

>> No.66367676

>>66367628
>I have a hard time imagining why he would've agreed to it when only Niji would benefit from it
You are a nobody and get the "chance of your life" working for a big popular agency - if they want you to sign a non-compete you will, you aren't in any position to discuss terms and would never do anything that could jeopardize that big chance

>> No.66367866

>>66367397
>work for japanese company located in japan
>live in europe
>be upset you can't join stuff that happens in japan
lol

>> No.66368388

>>66366946
Isn't Maria not part of Golden 20? I'm so confused at nijifags, how is that not successful at all? Rose tinted glasses perhaps? Focusing only on Luxiem when the 3 gens before weren't exactly as big before their lightning in the bottle moment that raised all tides? And let's be honest, it's Luxiem and Ethyria particularly Enna as well who sank the ship and destroyed Niji beyond repair as well, it's not the fault of later gens right?

>> No.66368646

>>66367575
Bae is also literally moving to Japan on top of it. I'd bet out of her vs IRyS, Bae is the one who's more ambitious into doing something like a solo concert or making songs, IRyS is too passive in comparison just like almost all holomems

>> No.66368721

>>66368388
People have skewed standards.
They look at Hololive and the absolute top of indies, vShojo, etc, and comparing everyone against them.
Cracking 1k CCV is by any means very successful, but when you compare it to any random 50k CCV Marine stream it suddenly looks pitiful.

>> No.66368888

>>66363009
>vshojo
https://i.4cdn.org/vt/1704815916833681.jpg
welp mika is going to vshojo by the look of things. Pomu likely to follow suit

>> No.66369762

>>66368888
He married Mika?

>> No.66370034

>>66367514
Suisei has had 2 and her second one literally finished with a "3rd sololive confirmed!"

>> No.66370259

>>66368646
IRyS relies heavily on support from others. She has ambition but it's hard for her to realise that on her own.

>> No.66370678

>>66368721
Isn't it up to par that arguably, the biggest company in the world should be able to compete with Hololive? Indies and Small Corpos should NOT be the comparison against Niji, it's embarrassing for Niji, it's why Phase is so appealing to normies and shitposters here are emboldened to shitpost harder now that there's a possibility that what they're saying is possible, as in Phase is competing with NijiEN

>> No.66370972

>>66366447
Always amusing to see nijibeggars on there knees wanting their organs to fail upward. Also, all the unessercary baggage that would come with these ex-whores.

>> No.66371420

>>66366447
cover would be fucking stupid to put someone big like pomu through the same audition process as everyone else if she messaged kiara asking if she can give management a nudge she'd 100% get in quickly

>> No.66371505

>>66359602
>to pursue her dream as an idol
I don't know how many times Pomu needs to say that she would never want to be an idol. She loves idol culture but she wants to be in the crowd holding pen lights and shouting, not on the stage.

>> No.66371849

>>66371505
If you watched her at all you should know that she'd absolutely love to be an idol herself but is very insecure about her singing/dancing and doesn't think she can hack it.
She's scared of not living up to her own standards.
If she can overcome that and has the support of a fanbase that motivates and reassures her she'd absolutely give it a try.

>> No.66372612

>>66371849
doesn't really inspire a ton of confidence she's pulling up stakes and betting everything on getting through auditions to pursue her idol dream.

>> No.66372859

>>66369762
No he just randomly moved to Jakarta to lives with the Indonesian people and rediscover himself
No fuck he goes there to fuck mika. Not necessarily needed to marry. If you have $130k in your bank you get to stay there for 10 year

>> No.66373075

>>66371420
I'm 100% sure people bigger than Pomu applied to hololive and they rejected her. She is big for niji yes but her live numbers are pretty tiny for holoEN.
And I don't think Kiara has any actual sway. Pomu isn't her only friend in the world mate. I'm also certain kiara's friend applied for holo and get rejected.

>> No.66373399

>>66371420
Hololive isn't vShojo. They don't just recruit based on your past-life's viewer numbers.

>> No.66373569

>>66371505
It's true she loves wota culture, but you're forgetting pieces. Namely how she already auditioned for and was accepted into an idol group when she was staying in Japan, got cold feet and turned them down. Her whole tune since getting back from Antarctica has been not having regrets about missed opportunities anymore.

>> No.66374629

Someone bought 10% of phase connect recently. It could be a case of fishman giving her 10% of the company in exchange for signing on.

>> No.66374767

>>66374629
This is the only thing less likely than the VAllure meme.

>> No.66375083

>>66357632
>>66357663
>>66357695
>>66357778
>>66357799
she'll be back... as Mint Fantome in VShojo.

>> No.66375725

>>66367258
Hololive doesn't need to poach low 4view CCV vtubers from competition because Hololive turns any small diamond in the rough into a mid 4view overnight in EN.
It's all about a good fit for what they're going for.
Now I'm not saying Pomu will or won't get in, but let's not pretend Cover gives a shit about her numbers, they don't. They've hired people way more famous than she is, and they've hired people way, way more obscure. They've almost certainly turned down much bigger names to hire tiny 2views.

>> No.66375941

>>66357632
Obviously Pomu can't admit that she'll be going to a competitor company while still employed.

>> No.66376058

>>66375725
I think the important part is also loyalty to some degree.
Like Hololive probably doesn't even WANT to poach any very established and experienced people that could easily make it on their own, they want girls that are in there for the long run and are probably (rightfully so) concerned about talents just using them as a boost before jumping ship again.

>> No.66376279

>>66375941
this
I don't know why people are taking anything she says at face value, especially when she legally cannot say certain things

>> No.66376624

>>66375941
It's less than she "didn't admit" something as that she implied the Twitter speculation was wrong and explicitly said she has no plans to go to another agency after graduating. I guess Niji could have made her say that, but I doubt it, especially in the context it came up in.

>> No.66376677

If she is going to resume activities right away, then Vshojo makes the most sense, but if she's actually going to be a full-time student for a while, then I think that IDOL or even Phase are more likely.

>> No.66376757

>>66357632
She's just "squashing all rumors" so she doesn't cause trouble probably.
She still wants to do a graduation stream and do some last collabs probably.

>> No.66376851

>>66357663
Most likely yeah. She already has her bachelors so if she goes back she'll probably be going for a masters.
Workload is a lot less, and is a lot more lenient to going to school part time. Pomu can very easily do fulltime vtubing and go to school part time.

>> No.66376927

>>66357632
You're all shameless faggots who can't remotely consider that she may actually just be done with VTubing as a whole judging by what she said the past few days.

>> No.66376972

>>66357663
>>66357695
>>66357719
>samefagging this hard

>> No.66377067

>>66376972
That's not what samefagging is, dingus

>> No.66377619

>>66357827
She's gonna need income if she's going to school and like hell she'd want to go back to wage slavery.

If she were in Hololive, she'd have a bunch of stuff that she HAS to do that would make it more difficult to keep a work-life-school balance.

VShojo is completely hands-off, she'd be able to do as much or as little as she wants/needs.
Also, absolutely none of the Japanese corpo autism that is literally the reason she's leaving Nijisanji.

>> No.66377648
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66377648

>>66375083
peak design
bustin makes me feel good

>> No.66377718

>>66361111
You are completely disconnected from the EN scene outside of Hololive and it really shows.

>> No.66378012

>>66361777
Kuro and Matara were both approached by VShojo after having already decided and begun preparing to resurface as indies.
Which makes sense, they can't exactly be whispering in competitors' talents' ears while they're still employed.

And from what we know, new members generally have to have a current member(s) vouch for them. Geega said she had multiple people in VShojo pushing for her to get in, for example.

So if Mata wants to fight for Mika and/or Pomu to get in, well, I'd say the chances are pretty high given they both have multiple friends in VShojo who will push for them too.

>> No.66378446

>>66377648
Wish I'd found her sooner.

>> No.66378530

>>66376851
No, she will only be going for certifications.

>> No.66379372

>>66377648
Needs an overhaul.

>> No.66379637

>>66379372
If Mint comes back then a new model is obvious. Model tech has come a long way and that one just won't hold up.

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66379672

>begging
Don't you have some sort of pride? Uhh guess not, forgot is niji we are talking about here

>> No.66379676

Imagine believing Pomu after her "I ave a lot of projects this year"

>> No.66379713

>>66379676
Well... she did
Until management found out about 'em

>> No.66380513

>>66357632
Personally, I kind of hope she just goes and focuses on school. She quit her office job to do Niji full time, so I can't imagine her decision to leave was made lightly. Might be good for her to take some time and just do her own thing for a while.

>> No.66381565

>>66379676
She never said that. That's how actual Pomu viewers knew she was going to be graduating. She avoided all talk of anything past January.

>> No.66382079
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66382079

>>66381565
It's literally from her New Years announcement. I don't know how "real Pomu fans" could use this to infer she's graduating except through advanced schizophrenia.

>> No.66382259

>>66362126
Haha.... it was lulu......

>> No.66382293

>>66382079
No mentions of projects there at all. Just thinking about "uncertain future plans", which is a big red flag when multiple other members of NijiEN have been talking about " big things cooking" and fans "eating good" during the first half of the year.
But that's not even the biggest tell. It started months before that. If you watched her, you would know.

>> No.66382754

>>66382293
What she specifically says is "I've been thinking a lot about future plans". No one but a schizo could interpret "future plans" to mean "graduation", it's just reading more into the text than is actually there even though it happens to be the correct interpretation, and plenty of people, including real fans, interpreted it to mean "I've got projects for 2024".
I don't think anyone knows what Pomu's doing next. Assuming she's not a liar, even Pomu doesn't know what she's doing next. We'll just have to wait and find out.

>> No.66382838

She is going to become a housewife (mine)

>> No.66385246

>>66357632
She's obviously going to Vshojo, I have no idea why there's any other sort of discussion. If she's really going back to school, that's great, too. Invest her stream income to fund her school tuition. Sasuga OL fairy.

>> No.66385594
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66385594

>>66357632
Pomu said everyone was wrong so far so it's something we don't expect.
VAllure?
She could be going to school for poledancing since that's a legit trade.

>> No.66386127

>>66385594
>30+ poledancer
uh-oh...

>> No.66386268

>>66357632
Pomu isn't coming back in the same way Coco, Pikamee, and Nina didn't come back. She's talking about the character of Pomu, not herself.

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>>66386268

>> No.66389514
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66389514

>>66385594
Would unironically love it

>> No.66390009

>>66357663
This. Maybe she will try to stay away from vtubing, but she will be back once she gets a taste of the real world by not having free money every time she turns on the computer kek

>> No.66390270

>>66366332
So true sis what a bitch

>> No.66392694

>>66377648
unironically fits right into vshojo's lineup
you can put her on the page and i could be none the wiser

>> No.66393079

She just said that not streaming will finally fix her back. She's not coming back...

>> No.66396259

>>66357632

>> No.66398194

she's going from fairy of akiverse to ???

>> No.66400089

>>66393079
>Pomu normally streams for 3-4 hours
>which is less than sitting on your ass in school which can last anywhere from 4 to 8 hours
Yeah about her back being finally fixed...

>> No.66403363

>>66400089
see >>66385594
and yeah school was bad for my health besides the walking and going to the gym on campus

>> No.66403691

>>66372612
Nijisanji is a dead end. You aren't going to achieve your dream if scrapping at the bottom, you need to reach for the stars.
Also it helps to be friends with Kiara.

>> No.66405360

>>66357632
she might honestly take a break for a few months just to hang out with her old cosplay friends and get into a bit again before the %2 dries up

>> No.66410203

>>66363265
>I wouldn't wish hololive on my worst enemy
The fuck would you say that

>> No.66410407

Her coming back is what I care about most, but man I really hope it's not through vshojo

>> No.66411327

>>66357632
Pomu's been in the industry for a fair few years now and has experience in making music, dealing with drama and pleasing the community
If she wanted to step out of the spotlight there would probably be a few people out there willing to put her in a managerial roll

>> No.66411538

>>66382079
The first second I read this letter, I started to worry if she wants to graduate. There are a lot of "unsure" "thinking a lot about future plans" in the letter and I felt that she would only say those because she planned to leave her comfort zone. But, yes, most pomudachis were thinking it as new project plans, so I thought I was wrong. I literally told my friend that day if she would graduate, she'd better reincarnate soon because I would miss her.

>> No.66415398

>>66357632
i hope she stays gone
life is better without weirdoes on the internet taking you way too seriously

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