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So it's safe to say that EN vtubing is in deep decline now and the golden age is over, right?

>> No.66119544
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>>66119492
nope

>> No.66119589

>>66119492
Happy Birthday Ame

>> No.66119590

>>66119492
It’s been over. EN vtubing are all just iron lung wannabes now

>> No.66119612

Nah, Advent has been great. Myth was a product of the timing and acting like it was a better product is rose tinted bullshit

>> No.66119615

adventbros rise up. literally saving en vtubing

>> No.66119643

>>66119492
Only if you think that myth/gura = EN vtubing

>> No.66119646

>>66119544
HoloAdvent succeeded, in what Holocouncil failed to do, be a good EN gen along with Myth.

>> No.66119705

late to realize

>> No.66119718
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Fuwamoco are the Hegelian synthesis of vtubing. The peak. The mountain top. Never will there be a greater nexus of talent, timing, and circumstance than fuwamoco. They may not be appreciated by broader culture, they may not get millions upon millions of subs, but make no mistake they are the peak and it is all down hill from here.

>> No.66119742

>>66119492
Nijisanji deflection thread

>> No.66119747

>>66119492
45K people watched Myth play Lethal company. 30K to 60K watched outfit reveals.
I think those are healthy numbers for anime streamers.

>> No.66119843

>>66119718
You mistake the beginning as the end.

You can't apply a fukuyamaism on a Hegelian treadmill. The fact that they're not perfect implies there are better and worse things to come.

>> No.66119929

>>66119718
>they are the peak
roru rumao

>> No.66119958

>>66119492
>golden* age
shit* age
The faster Vtubing returns to its Japanese roots the better.

>> No.66119968

>>66119718
>Fuwamoco may never be objectively the best, but I subjectively believe they are
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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>>66119843
>>66119929
>>66119968

No I see it laid bare already. Cover will continue consolidating, lose its soul. It will still be the most watchable thing by far, there won't be any serious competitors. Hires will become more boring, it will be like the later stages of JP flesh idols where it is all by the numbers. Fuwamoco being able to bridge both the EN and JP sides of holo, their dedication, autism, will not be replicated because by the time the next batch come along Hololive will have become too established to accommodate the presence of someone with as much hunger as Fuwamoco have. In terms of the development of the subculture it will only get worse from this point, AI tubers, grifting outfits like phase, etc. Vtubers as we know them peak at Fuwamoco.

>> No.66120058

>>66119958
>The faster Vtubing returns to its Japanese roots the better.
And what are those roots, pray tell. Pre-recorded let's plays and skits like the OGs? If that is what you mean, I agree.

>> No.66120131

>>66120027
>>66119968
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>> No.66120620

>>66119718
no gura will always be the peak
FWMC are the 2nd best but let's not kid ourselves, hard work will never beat natural talent. It's just how the world works

>> No.66120751

>>66119646
Council was weak, but Promise is doing great. It's just Myth that's in shambles.

>> No.66122751

>>66119492
If you don't care for Twitch or Adventrix, yeah. For the rest of us it's thriving

>> No.66122801

>>66119590
it would still be an improvement over them being veibae wannabees

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>>66119492
I don't know about you, but I'm unbothered. Moisturized. Happy. In My Lane. Focused. Flourishing.

>> No.66124190

>>66120751
>>but Promise is doing great
>taped together two utter failure of projects whose identity are quite literally being a failure
>2 members has been dead for 1 month one even 2 months
kek i guess the bar is that low

>> No.66124548

>>66119492
Hololive has just taken the podium of the industry back, and now everything is slowly healing. Plenty of dudes also keep chimping about what the best generation of EN is, when they're all good, it's pretty funny to see.

>> No.66125267

>>66120620
Unironically this. They can stream alot but they really aren’t that great conversationalists even with constantly having two people

>> No.66125592

>>66119492
no shit covid was the golden age retard, anyone (including the chuubas) thinking they can gain the same amount as back then are just making themselves miserable.

>> No.66125635

>>66119492
I think the opposite. Vtubing is healing. Vshojo is literally healing Niji castoffs. Advent is giving EN viewers something closer to what JP viewers love. Small corpos are doing solid too.

>> No.66125769

>>66119492
>normalfags are leaving
>large corpos are dying
>trendhopping whores are going back to flesh streaming
vtubing is healing

>> No.66126144

>>66119643
Gura already won vtubing. Not just EN either. She has nothing left to prove. She stands atop a mountain that none will ever be able to climb.

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>>66119492
not even close, anon.

>> No.66126576

>>66120620
Gura could say the dumbest shit possible or just make a sound in the perfect scenario and she has chat rolling, let’s be honest myth without Gura has always felt incomplete especially considering she carried that branch heavily. Anyone angry at her absence are just angry there’s nothing else worth watching. Fuwamoco are cute but it’s equivalent to watching ngl Sesame Street and bijou is just irritating to the ears, nerissa and shiori are fine but they don’t hold enough entertainment value to get me to actually watch. Council/hope aside from Fauna, kronii and irys is pretty much dead (baelz is the most boring one despite being the most active)

>> No.66126597

>>66119643
Is that not the case?

>> No.66127055

>>66125635
>>66125769
>Vtubing is healing
Unless a better alternative than vtubing comes out where whores can leech lonely men by pretending to not be whores, unlike OF for example, I don't think Vtubing is going to heal that much. Right now Vtubing is under the flag of purity and socially acceptable, even if none of them are pure and only do socially unacceptable things.

>> No.66127308

>>66119492
Been thriving actually i really enjoyed 2023
You just gonna know where to watch you bubble boy

>> No.66127342

>>66119492
Nah, vtubing is pretty ok.
I stopped watching the big corpos because they became stale and samey, but I'm having a lot of fun with smaller chuubas.

>> No.66127346

>>66119492
The day ironlung dies is the day EN vtubing will return to harmony.

>> No.66127426

>>66126576
I don't remember sesame street having side boob or watching school days unironically. Maybe you had a different sesame street in argentina or whatever

>> No.66127556

>>66119544
why 3rd gens are always the best?

>> No.66127593

>>66127346
>shitting on that one
Wait, we're allow to criticize her now? Last time I tried I got a vacation.

>> No.66127691

>>66127593
You'll have to forgive Ironmouse janny. He's here just to whiteknight for her and he's extremely retarded.

>> No.66128396

>>66119643
Yeah everyone else is doing real hot right now lolol

>> No.66128674

>>66119718
Ruffians post shit like this and then cry when people dislike them.

>> No.66129453

>>66127556
first gen is the gen in which they go for "safe" talents.
second gen they go for more "experimental" or "risky" talents
then using what they learned from those two they combine it and hire a third gen

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>>66119492
Fauna has literally never been better. Straight incline 2 years in a row.

>> No.66129535

>>66128674
>people
you mean schizos

>> No.66129621

>>66128674
Ruffians don't post anything.
You have to be 18 to post here.

>> No.66129863

>>66119492
It has never been better, my wife is doing great and there is also advent

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>>66119492
In my opinion, FuwaMoco stand out as some of the best English VTubers, captivating audiences with their infectious energy, engaging content, and charismatic personalities. Their streams offer a delightful blend of humor, creativity, and chat engagement, creating an enjoyable experience for their viewers. FuwaMoco's dedication to building a supportive community and their adept storytelling skills further contribute to their status as the best English VTubers that Hololive has to offer.
-Man of Mammary

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