/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>My previous manager was a little more, distracted?
>I have a new manager now
>Back then, my manager really did NOT do a good job!

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881275
Those who do nothing but bitch in HoloEN blame management for their own incompetence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881275
>old manager lets Kronii collab with Vesper
>shit hits the fan
>Kronii gets mad at old manager for not stopping her and saving her from herself
Peak woman moment

[Anonymous No.]

What does a manager even in hololive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881275
At least she HAD a manager

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881275
>fucks up her career
>it's not MY faaauuuult!!! Manager baaaad!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881275
Last manager was one of Omegatroon's minions so it was most likely some chink/tranny. Explains why she was so insistent on collabing with Tempus since they probably encouraged it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881376
Collect a salary and spend the whole day composing an email (one)

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881376
Apart from take flak for your lazy talents? They theoretically handle permissions, get talents with musical and dance go-tos for their projects, and retard wrangle them in IRL events

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881376
Not that much apparently

[Anonymous No.]

did any of you watch the video

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know the chronology of Kronii's manager, but considered that a couple of years ago the manager had to ask Kronii if she were eating https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQEMlO_pTDI I suspect that this is Kronii shifting the blame on the manager, like >>65881351 said

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881472
More often than not the managers themselves need tardwranglers but there's nobody to tardwrangle them

>>65881509
No I refuse

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881509
No, why should I ? it's easier and more fun to make up rrats on what I think the video is about /sarcasm/

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881376
Faxes game permission requests to Cover
Faxes song requests to Cover
DMs the girls to actually stream
Manages their twitter accounts
Organizes their JP trips, events, etc.
Begs the girls to stream
Organizes visits at therapists, physiotherapists and spa for the girls
Works out sponsored streams for the girls
Does the paperwork
Subtly asks girls to maybe sometimes stream
Works out the new outfits with the artists. At least in case of IRyS, whose previous manager was probably the worst nutcase in Cover, who'd keep ghosting her. He was also responsible for the shitshow of IRyS 1.0 not getting any outfits for a year. Also a tranny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881275
blames everyone but herself
she was always a prude

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881509
>watching streams
>watching clips
>reading threads
lmao, no. I'm a proud thumbnailreader.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881509
I did, why?

>>65881615
IRyS stuff is so weird, I wonder if the manager was just crazy or there was more behind the scenes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881509
>Asks for last minute perms less than a day before MAFIA debuts
>Manager is asleep or doing other shit
>She's seething about not getting instant support
>Video still follows through because it's an inhouse request of Shien's monologue
Kronii was seconds away from having a Selen or IRyS fiasco, but with an original. The salt would pay for all of Rome's legions

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>>65881674
Everything points out, including forbidden knowledge, that IRyS manager was a fucking nutcase. Didn't contact Redjuice to get her outfits AT ALL. Would ghost her for weeks. https://files.catbox.moe/q5q56h.ogg
And if all the other info is true (minecraft server info, youtube info, etc, look up the archive), her manager was Jyumi, some half-chink troon who was subbed to many sex transition related yt channels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881275
maybe they were really bad.
but bitching about prev manager is not a cool behavior.

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive managers are either total assholes, or people who seem like good people

no inbetween

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881848
>Mel's manager
>Haachama's first manager might have also been Mel's, but she demanded he/she be replaced because she was uncomfortable with him/her around
Granted this was proto-Cover era, so we can't fault them too much, but imagine the fiasco of ENMa copping a feel or plowing any of the talents on EN side

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881275
buy an ad

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881428
irys lied about having one for the OW collab

[Anonymous No.]

if i was a holo i would shrimply sleep with my manager and accuse them of rape whenever they mildly inconvenience me. whos gonna stop me. management? checkmate

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881943
>irys lied
No
Stop
No way
That's impossible!

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881910
How do you ignore me posting Subaru, because Subaru's manager history was awful. That one asshole who deleted all of her VOD's with no recovery deserves hell

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881965
Everyone went through the Crapcom shit, that's why

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881342
Corpo bootlicker

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881953
If you believe the rrats, then know that Mel's manager was never fired, but simply moved away from contacting Mel directly
Japs are facing literal extinction, and still could give less of a shit about women in the workforce, so if you slept with manager, he's calling you every night from them on and using your own threat against you

[Anonymous No.]

>>65882001
it went beyond crapcom

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881965
>That one asshole who deleted all of her VOD's with no recovery deserves hell
In the manager's defence, I will blame this on lack of clear instructions from the top.

[Anonymous No.]

maybe for jp. but for en

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881275
shit clip, stop uploading

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881615
>At least in case of IRyS, whose previous manager was probably the worst nutcase in Cover
Mel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65882315
Okay, hear me out. I agree, Mel's manager was awful, but if any one of you wouldn't want to rape Mel, let him be the first to throw a stone at me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881376
>Ignore requests from other managers
>Tell your managed talent they can't do things they actually can
>Tell your managed talent they have no chemistry with anyone and shouldn't do collabs
>Demand constant meetings so you can pretend it's a date
And sometimes just ignore the talent you manage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881615
>At least in case of IRyS, whose previous manager was probably the worst nutcase in Cover, who'd keep ghosting her.
IRyS didn't even have the worst ghosting manager for a vsinger.

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii doesn't know shit, she didn't even bother to look up anything for her sponsored FGO stream and doesn't even know the names of the famous characters her mama draws.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881275
Her previous manager was a nigger, ghosting her for weeks at times
There is a reason why she went from "no karaoke, no cover and no special gimmicky streams" to what she's at now
Probably the worst case in EN after IRyS

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881965
Nothing of value was lost anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881654
>I'm a proud dumbfuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881812
I don't know much about the history here but the manager delaying the new outfits could have been because Cover didn't want to get her new outfits yet. Managers typically act in the interest of the company over the interest of the individual they manage

[Anonymous No.]

>>65883473
IRyS was supposed to get the New Year's Kimono with everyone from Council. That was 2 years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65883608
>>65883473
>>65881812
Her NY outfit was delayed because they decided to give her 2.0, but 2.0 was delayed because her manager would just not contact anyone about it for months. It's the same situation with Nene where her NY was delayed for a year because her redesign needed to happen before she could get it.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not going to defend shit management cause i'm not a nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881275
Her manager was actually someone elses manager who barely made time for Kronii and would get back to her on things several days late everytime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881943
retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881342
/thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881450
Don't care, Kronii never apologized for her bullshit 180 on male collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881615
>>65881376
Subaru talks about her managers a whole lot.
It seems to vary from talent to talent and especially between the branches.
But the JP managers range from tardwrangling as mentioned to acting like a Personal Assistant, bringing them lunch/snacks/water they ask for during recording events etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881812
Is this the same manager that gave her the stars code for the megaman shill stream meaning any of her fans that bought the game when she was shilling it, ie. because of her, got counted as profits for the homo's commission?
I still believe that they did that intentionally to boost the homos' shill commission numbers as this was around about that clusterfuck period where they were pushing tempus HARD as if their careers depended upon it.
Feels like it was now that it's all gone quiet.

[Anonymous No.]

Probably one of omegatroons goons
God I hate that faggot

[Anonymous No.]

Reminds me of early Kiara being stuck with J-Chad prior to getting Jenma.
Fuck you J-Chad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65884811
What's the difference?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65882003
whore bootlicker

[Anonymous No.]

>>65884849
J-Chad is a massive number faggot who gave Kiara brain worms about it without any of the support she (he) gave to Calli. When Mori initially exploded that's where her (his) attention remained focused so Kiara was left to her menhera self with little to no support in lockdown Japan for months until Jenma was introduced to her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881376
forced them to collab with homo aka Homobeggar

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881275
Holo managers work in rotation, someone got him/her

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881275
It was fucking omegay

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881509
No I'm not a clip beggar

[Anonymous No.]

>>65882624
Based, fuck FGO

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881450
is this how kroniikeks cope?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881275
Anyone but me

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881342
>Anyone but me
/thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881376
Literally nothing. Everything would work much better if they had zero managers at the company.

[Anonymous No.]

You guys actually watch Kronii?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881275
Yes is the manager fault kronii was wetting her pussy for vesper and is also the manager fault that kronii burned so many fucking bridges within different fanbases (unicorns shippers homobeggars) over vesper in less than a week. This is why I hate fucking women no fucking sense of self accountability everything that happens it's always somebody else's fault.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65884520
>acting like a Personal Assistant, bringing them lunch/snacks/water they ask for during recording events etc
That's pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881376
A lot of tard wrangling and filling out perm forms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881376
>write ESL lyrics
>write self-insert OC donut steele
>write shitty fanfic
>stonewall projects/ideas
>take credit, shift blame
>make a rape guild
it's very tough job

[Anonymous No.]

>>65886262
Ok vesper Mr weird fetish freak. Just couldnt be professional could you? Ame did good bringing in fuwamoco, but she's still a bitch though and a dumb one too for thinking you were hololive material

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881376
tard wrangle basically

[Anonymous No.]

>>65886417
How the fuck does that makes me vesper you fucking stupid illiterate fucking chimp. Are fucking retarded? Where are you from your education failed you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881910
That manager? Me. Mel and Haachama both owe me sex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65886520
You can have Mel. But haachama will only be having sex with me of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881428
they should give irys gura's manager

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881428
Maybe IRyS should get Bae's manager, she is actually releasing music.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65886595
i'm sure only the best managers are assigned gura, marine, and pekora. they are too important to risk with anyone but the best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65886262
It is manager's fault. It is also Kronii's fault, but talents are expected to be menhera womanchildren, they are in streaming with anime girl avatar career. I fucking hate hands off just do whatever managers who think that they are around to e-mail publishers once a week. Go manage NijiEN with this attitude, it's working out great for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65882624
fuck fgo and gachaniggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881275
Hahaha, of course it is never their fault whenever they fuck something up. Yeah cuz the moment you get a manager, you are absolved of any responsibilities. After all, the manager controls the talent like a puppet! No need to think for yourself cuz my manager can just think for me! Woohoo!

[Anonymous No.]

>>65886262
and you just know she'll do it again in a heart beat if she has the opportunity. She learned zero lessons from that experience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881351
This 100%

[Anonymous No.]

>>65888535
There's no situation in which a manager can say "no you can't collab with holostars"

[Anonymous No.]

>>65886262
Kronii definitely seems to be shifting blame here but the manager should have just tardwrangled her to not alienate so many of her fans in the first place. I mean, she still would have fucking hated her manager anyway for instead being a strong guiding hand holding her back instead of nebulously just "not being there" while she fucked her shit up, but at least the end result for the rest of us would have probably been better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65888769
>the manager should have just tardwrangled her to not alienate so many of her fans in the first place
How the fuck are they going to do that? They're not mindreaders and they don't watch the stream with a kill switch to shut the stream down if they sense an uncomfortable comment coming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65888761
Wtf are you talking about, management kills ideas they have all the time, even after they sank a significant amount of time and money into a project.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65886269
well they should have chosen an actually productive job if they werent pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

>>65888821
Managers literally watch streams part of their job and can nuke a broadcast since they have the login details for the channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>65888761
We have cases of JP managers stonewalling collabs even within the branch. That aside, manager can tell them to go chill after they start doing terrible idea mengen streams or posting stupid shit on twitter. It's not like it was a single accident that did Kronii in, she was stewing in her menhera fumes and spiraling out for a while.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65888821
The key moment was when she basically soft-promised to her fans in a member stream she would try to avoid chatting up holostars members on twitter etc and then like what, a couple hours later (if that) totally reneged on it and said she was just gonna do whatever she wants and then commented on vesper posting his actual underwear (I don't recall if that was all the same day but it was close timing).

A manager could have swooped in on that after that first stream and been like "ok, you said you were going to limit yourself to such and such level, you need to know it's really important to stick with this because the trust of a significant chunk of your fans is getting very very fragile, and you don't want to go back on what looked like a commitment from you to build it back."

[Anonymous No.]

Blaming faceless managers is an easy way to get fan sympathy after yabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>65888886
>>65888934
What the fuck are YOU talking about? The participating members have never been the reason for any cancelled collab or idea if they're from within the company.
Again, there's no situation in which a manager can say "no you can't collab with holostars". The company wants them to grow even if it's never going to happen and a manager is not going to stop a collab with holostars.

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>>65888933
And? They still don't have the ability to magically stop her from saying things right before they happen. They don't have some kind of script of things they will say on stream that the managers review before every stream.

>>65888971
>A manager could have swooped in on that after that first stream and been like
They couldn't have because nobody does that. That's not their job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65884439
Any apology she made would be a lie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65889110
Lamy's old manager...

[Anonymous No.]

>>65888934
>terrible idea mengen streams
the member stream was good the terrible idea was to walk it all back afterwards, after reaching a compromise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65889110
>there's no situation
>"Hey Kronii, don't do male collabs at the moment, it'll upset a lot of viewers and the boys are pretty menhera and are probably going to sperg and get in trouble. You don't want to get caught up in that nonsense"
>b-but no one could've seen it coming
>VESPER WAS ALREADY BUTTING HEADS WITH HIS OWN MANAGER
Stop making it sound like it's hard. Kronii swam upstream against the current for to homo collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>65889299
>running with scissors is only bad if you are a retarded child
Yeah, no kidding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65884936
Kiara was already had numbers brainworms because of her past and position as last place in Myth subs, incapable of catching up to Ina despite Ina not really trying. I could see him making it worse but that is just who Kiara is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881434
Western Woman moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9he_ZRnZDlk

[Anonymous No.]

>>65889328
You keep dreaming up these situations that don't exist.
Once again, there's no situation in which a manager can say "no you can't collab with holostars". If they're not in the middle of a suspension they're good.
You're actually fucking retarded if you think managers have an incentive to ostracize other members due to some shit they have done. By your logic managers should block collabs with Marine because Marine's channel has no many demonetized videos that they stop her from doing certain content on her own channel.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>don't you guys have friends of the opposite sex?
>don't ship me with other male co-workers
>I will no longer bring them up
>Hey vesper nice dick I can see the outline in your underwear
>Finds the idol business unfortunate
All of this is the manager fault according to kronii.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881376
What did Gura's manager do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65890005
She noticed how Selen can blame any mistake on management and thought she could do the same, but since she is in Holo people don't care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65890005
woman moment

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881376
It probably depends on how pro-active the person in question is desu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65890005
Ex-mane-chan wore kronii's skin and impersonated her throughout that ordeal and she had to deal with the fallout right after ex-mane-chan fucked off somewhere. This is the truth, I saw it in my dreams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65889297
What was the deal with Lamy's old manager??

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881428
So IRyS willingly chose to collab with homos and it wasn't management's fault?
LOL, what now IRyStocucks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881275
I hate managers but I distrust Kronii more.

[Anonymous No.]

Should get Haachama's, I've heard he's one of the best!

[Anonymous No.]

>>65886551
t. Miko

[Anonymous No.]

>>65890836
Ritualposterchama..

[Anonymous No.]

I still remember Ina referring to a manager as he in the Left 4 Dead collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65890336
You know too much hide before cover sends botan to kill you

[Anonymous No.]

>>65890177
Kronii and Selen collab when?
Or do we have to wait for Selen to debut in EN gen 4 first?

[Anonymous No.]

Kinda funny how adult women need managers to reign them in

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881342
FPBP

[Anonymous No.]

>>65891204
Maybe they'll collab if Selen joins Vshojo like Mysta.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881376
I posit this question: How many managers in Hololive are qualified to be actual managers and not simply Cover employees shuffled around?

[Anonymous No.]

previous manager couldn't kronii sexually satisfied, good luck to the new one

[Anonymous No.]

Is this the thread where we bitch aimlessly at Kronii and spew year old drama while ignoring what the OP is actually referring to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65885640
Unironically yes, since they predicted that Kronii would actively hate on Tempus when they debuted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65891322
Most Japanese office workers are not qualified to do anything. They just need to spend a lot of hours at the office

[Anonymous No.]

>>65884439
There was nothing to apologize for. She did nothing wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65886262
Now say it without crying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65888761
If they want Yagoo's wrath.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65890177
Retarded take. Selen's problems are outright management interfering, Kronii's, at most, are management not doing anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65886480
>being this retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881342
HoloEN can blame management in a general sense but can't blame Cover issues like a design or model so it can be hard to determine the target. I have the feeling that Kronii had major issues that went beyond her personal manager. That she is more optimistic and that after the recent meeting Kiara was saying that 2024 would be a good year seems like they might be connected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65885568
>>65888595
It's amusing how much irrational hatred exists between vtuber watchers and gacha players, despite how similar they are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65891476
>Most Japanese office workers are not qualified to do anything
lol, that's how I feel most of the time as an office worker.

[Anonymous No.]

Selen deflection thread

[Anonymous No.]

>nijisanji vtuber complains about management
>"wow what a fucking black company"
>hololive vtuber complains about management
>"what an ungrateful cunt, stop being a dramaqueen"
First it was Kiara, now it's Kronii.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881462
Closest thing to being correct

>>65881472
The only live events they appear at are cons, though it is rare, who have staff their to help them and solo lives/rare jp gen concerts (not CtW) which comes with a full team not just the manager. Most of the time their managers are their in person for them to make sure their appearance is running smoothly and to pick up the gifts

>>65881615
All of these are wrong, these are done by other people and you’re wrong about the irys shit because you’re probably a newfag. She teased her redesign before that so she didn’t get an outfit for a first design though you can blame the manager on the year delay if they are involved in that which they normally aren’t. And jp have all had worst managers

>>65882568
Also correct sadly

>>65884520
You are right this is the managers job. Being the personal assistant to a bunch of “children” is their job. Some take the children aspect to seriously and greatly overstep their boundaries. This is the standard in the entertainment industry unless you’re a newbie

>>65886154
Retard

>>65886306
This is partially correct

>>65886348
Producer*

>>65890257
Wrong

>>65891322
Gen 2 and 3 all have solid managers, Gura and Kiara’s managers seem to work well for what they need to a lesser extent the rest of myth as well, and gen 0 though their managers are special. Everyone else's managers are either highly incompetent or dealing with the biggest headaches in the industry. Lamy Kanata and Mel had bad experiences but there’s no way it’s that bad for everyone else while 3 gens have 0 issues. Towa in particular speed runs managers

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>>65895124
First it was JP and what Kiara complained about it isn’t the same as kronii. Management is upper management while their managers are below them on the totem pole. But the biggest difference is cover didn’t try to strike dramatubers, mainly because they pretend they don’t exist, so now they raid the catalog consistently for screenshots

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881376
More important question. What does Gura's manager do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65895362
Cope holokek

[Anonymous No.]

>>65896171
Retweet when there’s something to shill

[Anonymous No.]

>>65896171
The same as every other manager gives her jobs, snacks and miku to calm her down. Then there’s jenma always trying to get her involved

[Anonymous No.]

>>65896939
So schizo he wasn’t sure which buzzword to use and picked wrong. I was defending niji but you only come here to troll and stir up drama

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881428
>>65881943
>>65886595
>>65887044
>>65890661
irys is literally the worst and dumbest vtuber and should graduate. seriously I can't even hate watch her she is so stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65897441
I genuinely don't understand what iRyS does that makes retards like this guy seethe so hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>65896171
Ghost write as Gura when merch needs shilling, pretend she's requesting perms for games, and apparently hook her up with such egregiously terrible people for her QUEEN cover, Gura abandoned it all together

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881351
>kronies cope
>>59617586
>>59618077
>>59618651

[Anonymous No.]

>>65897837
He's a Holostars fan

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881342
You do realize pretty much everyone by now has bitched about management in the entire branch? I could see your point if it was only a couple of them and chalk it up to them being malcontents and bad apples but when every last member has gone off on management at one point or another don't you think its time to stop pointing fingers at the talents and to follow to the common source, the management?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65899513
you try tardwrangling western women, lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881781
in what world is mafia an original you mouth breather

[Anonymous No.]

>>65899616
YWNHAGF

[Anonymous No.]

>>65899955
case on point

[Anonymous No.]

>>65897441
I don't get the IRyS hate. I love a good bimbo.

[Anonymous No.]

The minimum catalogtards could do is actually watch the clip instead of just reading the thumbnail.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65900185
>being a clipwatcher

[Anonymous No.]

>>65900463
Still slightly better than a thumbnail reader. I already know you retards aren’t gonna watch stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65900659
>thumbnail readers
respect their own time
too busy being productive to spend time watching clips, let alone full streams
gathers information in the most efficient way to grace everybody else with their correct opinions

>clipwatcher
do I even need to elaborate further

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881275
Kronii is unironically better than mumei who by the way did you know
MUMEI DEFENDED A PEDOPHILE AND RAPIST
MUMEI ALSO HAD 2 BOYFRIENDS
LMFAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>65901859
I'm sure you have proof of all these claims right? You chuds are fuckin hilarious considering the orange Teletubby you worship went to Epstein pedo Island at least 20 times according to Jeff black book.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65902020
https: //v-buz.net/en-US/post/nanashi-zense
Enjoy you cum gargling retard

[Anonymous No.]

>clip thumbnail thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>65903053
>Post quotes, get told for source, have to post the fucking VOD and time stamp it, then the corresponding timestamps of "context", to shut up the retards in denial
>Post the link to clip shit, get told "LOL Clip nigger" and argument discarded
>Post pic, make everyone seethe, get maximum content

[Anonymous No.]

>>65902906
>Ask for proof and I get link to another schizo basket weaving site.
Are you happy to be exhibiting all of this small dick energy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65896171
sex

[Anonymous No.]

>>65904314
>Give me proof
>NOOO YOU WERENT SUPPOSED TO GIVE ME PROOF
i bet you reported the post too so you can bury the truth lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>65902020
You're thinking of Bill Clinton, you mouthbreathing McMongoloid. You know, the one that Eppy got a painting of in his wife's dress.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65886269
Why is it pathetic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65884660
That happeneD WAY WAY after the period where management wasn't contacting Redjuice so unlikely

[Anonymous No.]

>>65904675
Actually it never crossed my mind to do that but now that I saw you mentioning it I just reported it for dox just now enjoy your 2 day vacation. I hope in those 2 days you find time to at least take a fucking shower.

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>>65884439
I think it is very possible Kronii's manager may have been responsible for the yab in the first place. It would be nice to believe she was ordered to change her position after the stream where she seemed to agree with her viewers on the issue.

But we'll never know for sure, most likely. If it was the manager being an asshole, I feel genuinely bad for her.

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>>65907801
It's not a dox you fucking retard. You zoomers are unironically so fucking stupid holy fuck kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881450
kroni is a tranny herself, her manager also being one wouldn't matter to her

[Anonymous No.]

>>65908925
Actually it is. That site is posting PL information you fucking stupid retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>gets btfo
>NOOOO YOU CANT POST PROOFS
>MMMMMMEEEEEIDO-SAMAAAA

[Anonymous No.]

>>65909682
I don't argue with small dick anons

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>>65891322
In the beginning, Cover management was clearly subpar and probably as bad as Nijisanji's currently is.

After the disaster where Mio nearly lost her channel, Yagoo seems to have realized the need to "professionalize" the company and started hiring people with actual experience in managing talents. This did a lot to clamp down on further yabs. Some Holos like Rushia and Matsuri couldn't be tardwrangled and melted down anyway, and Laplus was a horrible choice from the get-go, but I think its to Cover's credit that they've done as well as they have in recent years.

In the case of Holo EN, it seems to have taken longer to professionalize (possibly because the Omega era management could point to the initial success of Myth, particularly Gura). My guess is various Myth yabs and the overall failure of Council is what got EN's incompetent management pushed out. Things got better for them when Dimitri Jap was hired to replace Omega, and there haven't been any major yabs since he took the reins, with Advent being a success and the problem of male collabs mostly gone (excepting Bae).

[Anonymous No.]

>>65910031
ok, not arguing with you anymore.

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>>65881275
>pretends to care and want to understand how we feel for an entire stream
>thought she was actually different than the others
>"fuck you I'll collab with who I want" the next day
Don't care who she blames, I'll never forgive her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65911048
why is advent a success but council is not?

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>>65912487
Council did a lot of self-sabotaging things. Sana basically decided she didn't like it maybe a month or two after she debuted and quit the minute her contract was up. Kronii had the whole "male collabs" disaster and also went through a period of not streaming which torpedoed her growth. Bae collabed too much with men, and Mumei I don't pay a lot of attention to but I heard she doesn't stream a whole lot (please correct me if I am wrong). Fauna is the only one who is a success, even with the We Are Not Friends yab, and I'd consider her a modest success at best.

IRyS was also crippled by being launched as a vSinger and then they didn't really seem to know what to do with her; had she been part of Council she might have done a lot better.

The advantage Advent has is they stream a lot, particularly Biboo and the dogs, and so far have avoided big yabs. Their selection was also a lot more careful than Council's, IMO. Even Shiori, who I was initially wary of, turned out all right.

[Anonymous No.]

>my previous manager made me do a voiceover for a whore company
boohoo manager hort :(

[Anonymous No.]

>>65913069
IRyS also had like the worst manager ever to debuff her, too

[Anonymous No.]

>>65913069
The concern here is from a business perspective, and in that sense are they doing better than council did/does?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65882001
>quick private everything
>WHAT? DELETE?
No, her manager was a fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>65913072
No that happened under the current manager
The old bad manager is from way longer ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>65913069
For an entrepreneur like Yagoo, failures are nothing but step-stones to success.
He won’t be afraid of making mistakes like council or CN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65914537
More views over time and more consistent fanbase = more marketability and demand for concerts = more money.

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>>65881781
>expecting someone who's entire job is helping you to get back to you within a day
What a fucking woman

[Anonymous No.]

How many views do you need for your shit clip to keep bumping this thread like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65913069
Council streamed a lot in the first year too.
Or at least Fauna/Kronii/Bae did.
Mumei was absent more than usual and Sana checked out during/after the dog arc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65896171
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gN4hhxqoRCs
Treat her like a baby, apparently.

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>>65882465

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>>65912356
Yeah it's hard to believe the story of a quick backstabber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65916350
In the last possible stretch it stops being an obligation and more of a inconvenience. One can only imagine how many times Kronii was asked what else she needed before she finally realized "oh hey last minute perms!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>65918069
They still pretend the managers are female?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881654
the sovl of /vt/ right here

[Anonymous No.]

Pretty based of her the outright call her ex manager incompetent. If they're still with the company then everyone knows who it is and the next girl that gets them knows what to expect

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881275
She talked about this in an Oct 2022 member stream, it's old news.

The only interesting information was that her old manager was JEnma (who she doesn't hate). JEnma was busy with Kiara and completely neglected Kronii. When JEnma was promoted to head manager she dropped every girl except Kiara
That's when Kronii got a new manager. She shares KroMa with Mumei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881275
rrat: Kronii's mane-chan graduated from clock sex to cock sex and she got so bitter she started male collabing to rouse jealousy from her true lesbo love

[Anonymous No.]

Don't you guys have more recent shit to schizo over than the clock woman again

[Anonymous No.]

>>65922739
Considering /vt/ latches on to Fauna and Ina's quips to this day, no

[Anonymous No.]

>>65882824
>to what she's at now
An unpopular member who barely streams, has the worst merch sales, has no channel growth and gets less live views than other members prerecorded VOD uploads?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65922087
>Her only manager was Jenma
Why... Jenma is one of the few competent managers what got promoted to head manager, give her to some girl that will take advantage of her skills like Bae or FWMC for example (and Kiara but she's her permanent manager already). They really wasted Jenma on Kronii

[Anonymous No.]

what is she CAPS LOCK RAGE POSTING today?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65913069
Mumei is about to eclipse 1M subs even without streaming. Imagine how big she would be if she was healthy and stable enough to stream consistently and release projects at Bae's level. Lots of underdeveloped potential there.

IRyS was indeed poorly managed but since that was corrected, she still doesn't put in work the way Bae does. I assume her middling success in streaming is sufficient, given her... living situation.

Kronii wants to be a voice actress. If she breaks into that field (50/50 odds there) she will graduate immediately. She has never been totally committed.

Bae, while not overly popular, puts in the work and I think will make herself useful to Cover.

Fauna just enjoys streaming for now. Some day she will be ready to move on.

They spent more time vetting Advent and making sure each member filled a precise niche and that each member was serious long-term. They were also sure to avoid difficult personalities.

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>>65923940
Yes, JEnma is competent, but she was too busy to help Kronii and gave Kiara preferential treatment. Kronii doesn't hate her former manager and she loves KroMa, so she's good now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65895158
Since you appear to know something, can you explain what it is the talents are doing when they claim they have "lots of off stream work." Fauna does this constantly. I feel like Will Ferrell asking WHAT IS SHE DOING IN THERE?

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>>65924370
>Mumei is about to eclipse 1M subs even without streaming
Yeah after how many years. I don't hate Council but that gen flopped hard. Good thing management got their shit together and did great with the advent girls. The en branch wouldn't have survived with another flopping gen.

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>>65924370
>Kronii wants to be a voice actress. If she breaks into that field (50/50 odds there) she will graduate immediately.
>She will quit a work from home job with decent stability, okay income, and ability to decide a lot of her own schedule and content.
>To work exclusively in an industry where if she "makes it" she'll be paid around $30/hr.
>Which isn't even consistent work, so it's significantly less than $30/hr full time.
>And will have to live near studio in a major city with high cost of living.
>And drive to that studio and maintain a car, which comes out of the profits.
>And perhaps the best way to continuously get roles in that industry nowadays is to be a well known anime or gaming-related InFlUeNcEr on the internet.
>Which is exactly what she is right now.
>Which is what you are saying she will stop being.
No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65925390
>Kronii wants to be a voice actress
She already was though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65925390
>And perhaps the best way to continuously get roles in that industry nowadays is to be a well known anime or gaming-related InFlUeNcEr on the internet.
The best(only?) way is to have sex with one of the creepy execs at crunchyroll or provide them with girls/boys

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881376
sniff the bodysuits after a 3D

[Anonymous No.]

>>65925791
Presumably for something a little bigger than indie games about being a sad tranny that sell 3 copies

[Anonymous No.]

I remember Kronii saying her manager telling her to just shut the fuck up about the collabs and let the noise down but against their wishes, Kronii decided to address it and ended up making worse. So with regards to that issue, it sounded like the manager actually had their head on their shoulders compared to Kronii having a woman moment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65922087
I wonder if these kinds of preferences have caused conflicts or resentments between holomems behind the scenes...

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>>65925791
A VA getting a non-VA job doesn't mean that they don't want to be a VA anymore, if that's what you mean. It usually just means that they can't afford to ONLY be a VA. The pay they make is dogshit relative to the living conditions they have to maintain. It's similar to how Google engineers can make $200,000+/yr but somehow STILL only be scraping by. It's because they own a house or pay rent in driving distance to Google.

That's the main reason voice actors do so many convention panels, if they're famous enough to. It's a way to make semi-consistent money by kindling past successes, rather than scrounging for new ones and getting paid peanuts to be in the booth. A lot of this has become less definitive and ubiquitous in the internet era, but large companies are always slow to change.

Kronii is therefore in a pretty comfortable position as far as a voice actor is concerned. She got a job that gives her relative stability and acts as an agent for her, before making it big. Although I would probably argue that being a member of Hololive IS a voice acting job of sorts, but I digress.

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii can be a voice actress and work on Hololive at the same time, neither job is demanding enough to overshadow the other unless she starts doing a stupid amount of projects

[Anonymous No.]

>>65927216
There has to be tons of behind the scenes drama. It’s dozens of women working together.

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>>65881275
>>65881351

nah you idiots didn't even bother knowing about the context. it was about people complaining about kronii not asking shien permission for the mafia credits at the end of her cover. when she's had permission MONTH before she even released it. but because of her incompetent manager you left her on read for a whole day. Shien's fans had already started rioting about his lyrics being in her cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65890661
retard

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>>65890005
wow. you're so good with twisting her words. are you like autistic or something? or were you just dropped on your head since birth?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65912356
she still doesn't care about you dumb fuck. she was talking about perms for her MAFIA Cover. But seeing as how you haven't moved on from her you're still an ugly virgin kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>65928005
>virgin
Imagine being a roastie who's proud of having loose flaps.

[Anonymous No.]

I absolutely love manager threads because you get to see everyone pull the most asinine nonsensical conclusions out of their ass to defend their oshi from their own fuckups all while being able to attack whatever shit in the industry they hate. Poor number growth? Shitty merch sales? OG Song flopped? No collabs? Interacted with company I don't like? Doesn't stream? Collabed with men? DIDN'T collab with men? No new outfits? Doesn't get sponsored streams? Had a menhera breakdown episode? No, no, not my beautiful perfect oshi! Management's fault! Manager bad! Manager HATE! I fucking love it. The absolute mental illness, full fledged backwards ass schizo conspiracies people will come up with are better than any shitty forced rrats to have come out of this board in all of 2023.

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>>65927387
Generally, but the mandatory Holo workload periodically becomes hard to handle on its own, even if you aren't doing optional projects. There's a decent chance it could cause scheduling conflicts if she got a major anime role or something. But at that point, I wonder if Holo would not only play ball, but play into it, if they thought she was going to be the next Haruhi or something.

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>>65927216
100%, but these girls are too passive to create anything big.

The JP girls have gotten into arguments to the point of tears. EN and ID aren't like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65886262
bet you hate english classes too eslchama

[Anonymous No.]

>>65928335
…except for Kiara

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>>65928005
>you're still an ugly virgin kek
>Thinking this kind of "insult" is going to affect anything on 4chan of all places
Kek. I might not agree with the unicorn, but kindly fuck off back to wherever you came from.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65928257
Do you think Shiori or Henma is to blame for her first cover getting botched?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65928924
Sounds like it's working very well

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881275
I want to watch vtubers who want to be there, not have to be because of monthly rent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65927593
>Shien's fans had already started rioting
Female unicorns who don't want female collab with their male oshi? that is new.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65929081
I suppose it worked to make me discard the possibility that you'd have meaningful input, so you got me there.

[Anonymous No.]

Can I get a qrd on the individual known as Ouro Kronii? some say she's a tranny dyke. Some say she fucked Vesper. Please someone tell me the truth!

[Anonymous No.]

>>65927581
If Vesper had several conflicts with different people in a year, imagine dozens and dozens of women working together for several years...

[Anonymous No.]

>>65927593
unity ~
kronii should have graduated with mori
to 2024 goals

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>>65929550
The truth is schizos latched onto her from Day 1 for having a deeper voice than the others and decided she was a tranny because of that, and have spent 2+ years coming up with whatever brainworms that keeps their schizophrenia going ever since.

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>>65929550
She was very popular with the saberface buff until she abandoned everything to collab with Vesper, doing a 180 after she said she will compromise.
Worst yet, Vesper turned out to be a male menhera that brought the most drama to the EN branch, and abandoned her and the company after a single year, and after he brought drama to both HoloEN and StarsEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65930152
It’s not because of her voice, it’s because of her past-life, in which she appears to identify as a tranny.

[Anonymous No.]

I love clip threads

[Anonymous No.]

>>65926275
I wanna be a manager. The perks are worth it alone.

But heard that claiming to be a Hololive fan is how not to get hired.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65936225
Shoulda been a manager during the first year
>Get Mel as your talent
>"Free oshi sex? Don't mind if i do"

[Anonymous No.]

>>65896171
Forced Gura to stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAJXZPwsQcg

But also didn't force Gura and Kiara to collab with Stars

[Anonymous No.]

>>65929332
No they were pissed that Kronii didn't credit him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65897441
Worst? Clearly not.
Dumbest? Do you mean cutest?

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>>65889409
>and position as last place in Myth subs, incapable of catching up to Ina
This wasn't the case at the time. Kiara was ahead of Ina for a while and Ina didn't pull ahead of Kiara until long after she left Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65937229
So who's fault ultimately was it? Seems manager took 12+ hours to respond before the debut, but didn't Kronii want Shien's monologue from the very beginning?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65928257
Unironically Kronii's first OG song was delayed by almost half a year because LUMINA is a lazy fuck.
And it looks to be the same with her second OG song.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65896171
Just fucking stream you lazy fucking shark.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65938403
:3c

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>>65928257
This thread is a great reason why I don't give a fuck about most of holoEN, and just peruse them. I don't have any long term commitment to any of them, and its more entertaining to just hear these retards whine and cry.

[Anonymous No.]

EN management aren't used to managing talents the way how JP company wants them to be managed.
EN talents saw how JP talents are treated like gods by their managers while they're being ghosted by their own EN managers, ofc they'd feel bad.
It's been 4 years, they should hire actual professionals as managers or at least hire a multilingual JP manager as a supervisor for EN managers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65931433
Yeah mean a random YT comment that's 6 years old at this point that literally did not say anything remotely near that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65939168
JP managers suck but they did get a lot of good for the members. Its still amazing that they get work even with the bad sprinkled in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65937998
If you run into an asshole once, you ran into an asshole
If you run into assholes all the time, you're the asshole

[Anonymous No.]

>>65939472
I don't know how you'd be able to pin her orisong released getting delayed on her end if the song was recorded and mixed over half a year ago at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65939168
Why won't they let me manage my oshi, I would be at her beck and call 24/7. If she was doing some girls offcollab and didn't have access to a restroom I wouldn't hesitate to be her human toilet and use $100 bill to wipe her

[Anonymous No.]

>>65937998
Lumina was the cause of a few of IRyS's delayed songs too and still gets work

[Anonymous No.]

>>65940080
they want women and you sound like you'd rape her if she doesn't listen to your advice

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881342
idiot

[Anonymous No.]

>>65937087
Imagine being the one who has to answer for 2023 Gura's activities

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881943
yea, that was definitely a headscratcher. She literally should have said nothing regarding it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65937798
obviously the managers. She wanted it since the beginning and told the manager. It should've been confirmed since the beginning but kronii still had to check with manager before uploading the cover. And he still took 12+ hours to respond just to not even do the task. At what point should a talent be more on top of this stuff than the manager?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65913069
>had she been part of Council she might have done a lot better
Would she? IRyS had hype and a headstart that Council didn't get. She started her career with 600k subs, Council started with like less than half that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65953659
council was culled badly and more than once which ruined momentum, while IRyS wasn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>65953363
she said management suggested she do that stream, not her manager. Just because she doesn't have a personal manager for her vsinger stuff anymore doesn't mean cover is letting her continue without management. She was literally being passed around by any management that had free time to do work which is why all of her shit keeps getting delayed or there were multiple communication issues since she doesn't have a singular person to relay info to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65953705
Whats your point, are we going to make up a scenario where Council doesn't get culled? Thats not the point of the discussion, because then we could just say if Council wasn't culled they would've all blazed past IRyS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65954044
Mumei has already passed IRyS so yes if they weren't culled they would've blazed past.

[Anonymous No.]

Some of the comments in this thread are really bending over backwards to defend this manager in particular. As if the ex-manager himself wrote them

[Anonymous No.]

>>65954286
Thats my point, retard. They are basically even despite IRyS having a huge headstart, which is why the original anon's claim that IRyS might've been bigger if she debuted in Council doesnt check out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65928178
sure incel keep telling yourself that. don't get calluses from rubbing one out too much. unlucky for you women wouldn't even come near you with a 10 foot pole with how ugly you are

[Anonymous No.]

>>65928924
the retard actually got triggered and replied to bait. get a job loser

[Anonymous No.]

>>65929920
and you should've graduated in life since you don't have one and still in kronii's business while she lives in your unemployed head rent free

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881376
I remember Ina had one manager had nothing to do cause she had herself sorted out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65955948
>He doesn't know
You could say Ina and Ame's managers are closer than you think

[Anonymous No.]

>>65956434
Yeah they're both secretly Mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>65947437
Probably chilling out.
Gura's absences didn't start until after her contract renewal. Probably negotiated for more time off... "her new norm". So it's out of her hands, other than the company-mandated appearances.

Don't know who her current manager is, but she often talked highly of Jenma.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65954479
Nice try, Kronii.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65913069
hey Mumei might not have streamed much but that's because she was in college, and even then she still sacrificed her college terms just to stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>65881342
fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Kronii always seeking validation from a group of random people?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65886595
Pretty sure that one has been laid off after "cant play sanic if sega hired this man, PC hort" and gura fucked off forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65908908
Kronii’s manager told her to shut the fuck up so Kronii did the opposite of that of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65897441
IRyS isn't even in the top 5 of dumbest vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65886446
that's kiara's job