/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Why are Vtubers leaving vshojo en masse. Kson told me there's no drawbacks. Joining Vshojo only has advantages. Are they stupid?

[Anonymous No.]

welcome to vshojo, selen!

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
Yes, next question

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
Everyone in this picture is a narcissistic menhera with daddy issues.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
>are they stupid?
they're just woman

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
Vshojo does ritual sacrifices to make way for new blood. Nazuna was sacrificed so Selen could join.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
Vshoujo doesn't want you to know this, but they didn't quit. They were all fired for having boyfriends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539294
Wait, anyone who left has one, mikebros!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539294
>fired for having boyfriends
One of them was hired for HAVING a boyfriend though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539375
yea, me

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539375
No, they believed her lies

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
The jp management is hilariously shit. That shilling was cringe even back then but Im pretty sure she now knows it.

[Anonymous No.]

Because, well Vshojo has no real draw backs it’s still a Vtuber org and that affects sponsors. But organizations such as Mythic have normal streamers so they can pull from a bigger pool of sponsors because they don’t have to take the extra time to explain Vtubers are. Basically Vshojo is still a small Vtuber org and the talents outgrew it or just didn’t need it anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
>all of them kept their IP / assets and left because they didn't feel like they belong into the group
Seems like there was no disadvantage for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
>Are they stupid?
Worse, they are women.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539529
They more sponsors than Mythic

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
people move on with their lives, none of the girls who left focused on anything else but vtubing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539529
>Vshojo is still a small Vtuber org and the talents outgrew it
They all lost most of their audiences after leaving VShojo so I don't think this tracks. I guess maybe they made up for that in better sponsorships IDK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
Vshojo has Zero clout over the main Japanese audience were Vsaikyou VRC stuff happens so joining them is stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
>Trusting Kekson
Definitely stupid

[Anonymous No.]

Damn, and they didn't replace any of them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540015
Both JPs are blacklisted from those anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
>Nyanners and Veibae
To follow their boyfriend
>Silvervale
Don't know about her
>Nazuna
Unironic menhera

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540110
behead all numberpagpags

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540148
Absolutely none of them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540193
>Silvervale
Also menhera, but the jealous kind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540193
Something a black company would say

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539983
he means those talents outgrew vtubing, they have ambitions that aren't vtuber related. except for silver who just doesn't get along with anyone, don't know her deal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539588
OK so you're saying they all left after bleeding vshojo dry for free models/support. Why doesn't everyone do that since there's no drawbacks to doing that. Are they stupid?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540660
>ambitions beyond vtubing
What, playing World of Warcraft with their boyfriends all day? Because that is literally, unironically, honest to god what they have been doing after leaving VShojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540810
As far as I know they don't bankroll models

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
-4
+Kuro
+Matara
+**** (+****)

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
The zhangs were right, Coco/Kson was a lying snake

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540870
nyan: housewife
nazuna: voice actor
vei: housewife/she just hates vtubing
silver: menhera

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540954
"Housewife" isn't an acceptable occupation unless you have at least 4 kids

[Anonymous No.]

>>65541194
They’re fuck dolls for their boyfriends

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540936
buy more artiaNFTs faggot

[Anonymous No.]

Everyone makes mistakes

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539529
mythic is a literal joke over in /lig/ because they don't give any actual support to anyone except the really big ones like Filian or Shylily.

[Anonymous No.]

being able to leave whenever with your ip is not a con

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540810
There are no free models in Vshojo and the support they get is covered with the merch cut, so no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65541504
<insert mythic before/after sponsorship picture>

[Anonymous No.]

>>65541600
>>65541553
>>65540898
So only rich people that can afford vtuber models can join vshojo? Since they provide you with jack shit?
No wonder their auditions were a sham.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65541600
They supposedly get a stipend every so often for model updates. Not quite an entire model being paid for by the company, but it's something

[Anonymous No.]

>>65541986
sorry your 2view didn't get in anon, maybe holobegging would be better for her

[Anonymous No.]

>>65541986
Dunno about that, could also be that the company fronts the money and you pay it off in rates over time. Another possibility is that the company takes the risk of paying for everything which is why they are very selective.

Nobody knows because those are private matters

[Anonymous No.]

>>65541986
They definitely don't pay for new stuff after they've joined
But it's unclear if they help with debut stuff.

However, it is known that they all get an "allowance" from VShojo to be used towards stream stuff which can include but is not limited to models and assets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65542363
>>65542396
>Vshojo doesn't do x
>That's bad
>Actually vshojo might do x we just don't know if they do x because they don't disclose x but they probably do x
You fags literally sound like paid shills.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65541986
they supposedly have a signing bonus that's enough for a model and some assets and shit, probably varying from person to person. nazuna's model at least was purchased by vshojo and given to her for free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65541986
Their business model doesn't work for somebody who cannot sell merch. Not sure why this seem to upset you so greatly. It's certainly no disadvantage for those that do join.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65541986
No, only efamous people that are friends with the current vshojo girls + fag can get in.

[Anonymous No.]

VShojo doesn't even manage their own merch. It's all outsourced to Warren James, Inc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65541986
Are you actually fucking upset, your stupid ass misunderstood what the company is? They just hook you up with sponsors and merch, thats it, the rest is on you. Holy shit dumbfuck.

[Anonymous No.]

So only rich people that can afford a degree in electrical engineering can join Intel? Since they provide you with jack shit?
No wonder their CPUs were a sham.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65541986
The auditions were definitely a problem of the lack of vision originally for the company, had they known what a fucking hassle it is to keep a company where the main thing of them being together as "friends", at least in the public side, did more problems than actual stuff. Hence they never did it agan, and hired the one that would be easiest to fit even when Veibae was on it (as it was heavily speculated that the talents had a veto in the auditions, as in, if they didn't liked it they weren't able to join), and it was Haruka. Ever since they defintely didn't do it again, for this reason and kept the original version, which is nepotism or invitation with obviously managers input involved, hence why Geega joined.

More than a "sham" the auditions are definitely a product of the time where Hololive/Nijisanji were "the ones to follow"

[Anonymous No.]

>>65542568
Oh sorry, my bad for thinking you wanted to talk about it instead of throwing feces.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65542568
Well yeah when something isn't made public knowledge generally you have multiple possible options that are all equally valid

[Anonymous No.]

>>65542568
We know that they outsource their merch store, which has shit customer support and quality control.

[Anonymous No.]

>vshojo does provide models
>Vshojo takes merch cuts except you can make your own merch where they can't take a cut
So how does vshojo not go out of business? Are the remaining talents too stupid to bleed them dry for free shit like those 4 did? Are they corpo loving bootlickers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65541986
I don't know exactly what they provide people with but VShojo only hires established talents, usually having them bring their own model if they're allowed to. The only member who wasn't a solid 4view before joining (that I know of) was Froot. This is in contrast to big corpos who, while they don't turn down big-name talents, usually debut either total unknowns or longtime small corpo members with new models and identities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65543101
Well most of them dont make their own merch, and Vshojo has their own specific sponsorships it takes a cut from. Its not very expensive to run in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65542852
No we get it. Vshojo only hires their friends qnd rejects from other companies. And even those don't stick around. See nazuna.
The other corpos actually give opportunitied to no bodies. Vshojo doesn't invest in new people or people that aren't their friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65541656
can you post it ? I've never seen it

[Anonymous No.]

>>65543379
Yeah. It's a business, not a charity to give opportunities to nobodies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
So nyanners has been friend with OTK for awhile, so why stick with vshojo when you get a better deal with mythic? Same applies to vei, cause her boyfriend is one board members, Nazuna never really streamed. As for silver i know jack shit about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65543379
Hololive only invited Fubuki's friends until they got big enough to catapult any rando to 100k views on debut and you never complained about that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65543101
>So how does vshojo not go out of business?
Because this is how talent agencies typically work
They only really need enough to pay staff. The rest is bonus to continue helping the talents.

They even have free mental healthcare.
Which evidently some of the members who needed it the most did not utilize.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65543379
Nepotism is the door way to every single industry, this is not new.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65543537
Somehow Gamers became all of Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65543604
reps

[Anonymous No.]

>>65543447
>>65543537
>>65543575
>>65543580
t. Vshojo interns
How does vshojo's management's boots taste?
You guys sure love defendinh them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65543726
yagoo isn't gonna fuck you

[Anonymous No.]

>>65543652
Gen 2 is still bigger than Gamers. Also, Fubuki only brought on Mio, Okayu, and Korone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65543726
>give answers
>accuse them of being shills
Oh ok so you just want to be retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65543726
How in the world did my post about nepotism cause you to have a mental breakdown. Are you upset how real life works?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
I know Vei left cause she didn't like the idol culture aspect of vtubing and association with other members that restricted her a bit on what she can say. Nyan left for monetary reasons. Silver left cause she felt she wasn't getting the resources and help that she felt she needed from the group and a tinge of jealousy. Nazuna didn't really mesh well with the group due to majority being English speaking only in combination of running side shit like her personal channel. I think that sums it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65543996
No, Vei also left for money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65543753
>>65543537
>Nobody mentioned Hololive
Rent free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65544182
mentioning examples of the same stuff that happens in the same industry is not rent free, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>65543726
Anon we are literally just giving you straight and honest answers

If you want to be a shitstirring fuckhole then just do that instead of asking questions like you care at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>65544231
Vshojo's CEO is fucked you?!?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>65544334
What in Jakarta are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>nyanners
wanted a smaller platform and less stress
>vei
just wanted to dick-ride her boyfriend's company
>silver
menhera
>nazuna
also menhera

[Anonymous No.]

>>65544334

[Anonymous No.]

>>65544403
silver seems to be doing better now at least. she hasn't had a meltdown as of yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65544462
Considering how menhera she gets about numbers I think it's only a matter of time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65544242
No you don't understand, there can be no positive discussion about the whore company. Only negatives exist because it lost 4 people in a year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540193
>Don't know about her
Silvervale stated it was about how fake the girls in vshojo are after she got bullied and no one stuck up for her
The only person that even attempted to defend Silvervale was Ironmouse and the best she could do is
>bullying people is wrong, even if what you are fighting for is right, people shouldn't be bullied

[Anonymous No.]

>>65543726
vshojo literally pays 'cybersecurity" to monitor this shithole, it's actually embarrassing

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540267
God, this ruskie bitch makes me hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>65544855
It really does suck but on the other hand, they did warn her not to play iirc since they knew how controversial the game was at the time. So not going to her defense was them not wanting to get the hate towards them and just hoping things died down which it did.

[Anonymous No.]

VShojo has never been better now that Nyanners and that other cunt left. Nobody cares about Nazuna/Rushia/Korekore and I wouldn't blame them if they locked down the models under a 2 year deal from now on.

Just you wait: when Gura finishes sitting out her contract they'll win her over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65544855
That's rich, Silver is as fake as it fucking gets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65544855
Ironmouse tolerates Nazis?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545061
VShojo does not need any more talents that don't stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65543381
took some time, but found it

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
impressive how many insufferable people you can fit in this image

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545061
2.5 years of vshojofags saying Gura will join any day now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545035
Ironmouse wanted to play the game as well, the issue is when Froot came into Silvervales chat while she was crying and said
>it's okay we all make mistakes
>>65545103
Ironmouse is vtuber pokimane, she does what she has to do

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545158
The fuck? I don't pay attention to this shit so I do not know if they did something that made them like a risky brand to be with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545035
There was hardly a peep about the Switch port coming out. At the time of the PC/PS5/Xbox Series release there had been a photogenic trans girl murdered in a park in London that was in the news and people were associating buying the game with twisting the knife or whatever. At this point they're trying to hide its success by listing top selling games in alphabetical order and expanding it to the top 20 games so that Starfield also gets on the list.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545359
If she wasn't a retarded drama whore she could have just played the game and stayed off twitter like a normal person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545306
>the issue is when Froot came into Silvervales chat while she was crying and said
It was her own chat where she said this, you retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545318
iirc, they falsely included sponsors for OTK as sponsors for Mythic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
my best guess would be it's not because of the corp, they themselves seem chill
but take a look at WHO is in that corp, zentreya the loonytroon, ironlung the dramatard. and worst of all froot
i wouldn't want to be part of that corp too

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545443
Troon death threats are serious. They shot up christian schools. Silvervale was in real danger. Vshojo almost just stood there while ine of their talents got raped and killed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545318
They had these sponsors due to being OTK 0.5, as this were the same OTK sponsor they had at the time that they might have put them to attract creators or sell their brand more. These were also removed from the website of OTK, since Drama did ocurred and his name is Rich Campbell and Mizkif, and that's not drama of "my friend won't talk to me :(", this is drama of the caliber of sexual assault.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545561
>troons almost raped and murdered silvervale
Based. Hopefully someone can finish the job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545551
Froot is a ho but she's our ho goddamnit

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545628
iirc the rich campbell guy groped some drunk girl at a party and mizkif tried to cover it up I guess? idk that mizkif guy was always a huge faggot, I remember him being an Ice Poseidon dick sucker back in the day

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
They lost 4 and gained 4 in the same year. But nobody cares about 3 of the 4 they lost. People still miss Nyanners though

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545755
Mizkif did that but not for Rich, as they were separated cases, also I think Rich didn't groped a drunk girl, he actually raped her iirc

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545761
Well, a little bit. Her streams have gotten a bit stale since then, so it's a bit easier to handle that loss. I assume she wouldn't have been happy in the spotlight, and preferred to be more chill and indie

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
>4
>en masse
That's less than both other big companies though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65546014
Holo has lost 0 talents this year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545761
Group images from this year look so strange now compared to what they were when VShojo first started because of all the changes, but I'd take the 4 that joined over the 4 that left any day of the week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65546125
Where did he say this year?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm surprised Haruka is still there. Wasn't she a big Nyanners fan? Why doesn't she follow her footsteps?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545755
The group can be a bit of an annoyance to be honest in my opinion so par for the course. Asmon is the guy who likes to talks about drama and there is Tectone who has the personality of being loud, annoying, and seemingly wants to annoy any fanbase of the game he gets into.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545443
>Streamers should just not stream and hide in fear from psychotic murderous trannies
very sane and reasonable take

[Anonymous No.]

>>65546414
They don't have the balls to do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>65546414
did you even read my post dipshit? I said she should have just streamed the game normally instead of crying about twitter trannies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65546286
Those 4 all left this year.

[Anonymous No.]

People just hate to see VShojo winning and going against their Holo guidelines or whatever

[Anonymous No.]

>>65546362

[Anonymous No.]

>>65546343
If anyone else were to leave, I would think it would be Haruka. She's barely ever streams, and she didn't get the incline from membership some of the other new members enjoyed. Then again, I don't think there's another great option for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65546560
Weird I didn't see people say that vtubers are leaving hololive en masse when they got rid of an entire branch. That was more than 4 btw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545761
To be fair with them, they mostly miss Nyanners in group projects, but it was clear as day she didn't want to anymore, and neither was collabs, outside of the other 3 I guess, they don't have issues with collabing with her, now that happens is up to both parties. For the other hand, Nyanners post leaving, did felt like she took the weight of "Nyanners from VShojo" which allowed her to make the VNUS stream where she mainly made fun of several vtubers with the most clear one being Vox (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3NxLHqtVLY)), and she has made comments of both VShojo's new member, Matara in an ironic way (https://youtu.be/JfzuPb8sAvc)) and Holofags from this board (picrel)

[Anonymous No.]

>>65546619
Holo didn't block their talents from playing the wizard game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545158
Lmao, and isn't starforge asmongold's PC company, meaning that isn't even a "real" sponsor as they're owned by the same person?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65546718
cool paragraph
nyanners image = did not read

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
>leaving vshojo en masse
Are we time-looping to April again? Because one person isn't "en masse".

[Anonymous No.]

>>65546708
Adding to that, kurosanji also lost way more than the 6 from holoCN from this year alone

[Anonymous No.]

>>65546708
Are you delusional? People have been saying that. However, they usually shut up after hearing that half of the talents in that branch were bullying other talents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545761
True, calling Silver a literal who in vshojo threads was a running joke there even before she left, to the point where OPs sometimes left her out of the OP and most people didn't notice until several hundred posts in.
Vei never felt like a true part of the group, she didn't participate in group events and collabs and her fanbase had more overlap with OTK than the other vshojo girls.
Nazuna soft graduated long ago and literally nobody was surprised by this graduation.

But Nyanners actually hurts. She was the most popular girl next to Mouse in vsj+ and she had some real kino streams in 2021 and 2022.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545443
>>65546541
A lot of content creators can’t handle hate mobs so I am surprised more don’t have someone else run their brand account while they have a personal account that is not affiliated with their main

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
those ungrateful whores couldn't handle so much talent freedom

[Anonymous No.]

>>65546816
4 people from a group of 10 in 1 year is en masse

[Anonymous No.]

>>65543580

Is this post true? YES
Is this how it should be? NO
Do people look favorably on it? NO
Does it lead to better outcomes? NO

You sound like a chinaman defending guanxi lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>65546948
Or you can just not login to twitter for a week or two. I don't understand why this is so hard for women to do

[Anonymous No.]

>>65546737
Neither did VShojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>65546737
Neither did VShojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>65546737
Neither did VShojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
Why does a successful actor leave an agency and get a single dedicated agent or personal manager instead?

Because at a certain level of success it's more financially viable to do so. Stop being a fucking SEAretard without a single concept of how the entertainment business works.

[Anonymous No.]

Somebody's bot's broken.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547127
People just want Nazuna leaving to be some big drama thing when it clearly isn't. She just wanted to leave and did. Similar to Sana really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547120
>>65547102
>>65547082
autism

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547001
your numbers fail you

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539066
You mean Mika right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547127
They're all less successful than the top remaining talents. And a lot of that recline has happened after leaving. So we can wait and see, if you're correct, IM, Zentreya and Henya will leave as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547194
>>65547146
>Say something false
>Multiple people tell you it's fase
>MUST BE BOTTING

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547246
you have down syndrome, don't reply to me again

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547194
Rope

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547082
Nazuna was blocked by management from playing it. It's why talent freedom is a meme.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547239
I mean IM did consider leaving last time the contract renewal happened. Losing the others probably gave her the ground to get what ever she wanted though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547306
Stay retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547181
Maybe people are trying to deflect from the actual yab that is Selen's suspension.
This Nazuna thing just seems to be an amicable split for the most part. The only little bit of drama is Nazuna's twitter response to Henya, but that's most likely just a case of Henya wanting to collab with Nazuna and Mike wanting to do it as Mikeneko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547346
Nazuna was advised not to play it, they can't force her

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545755
Rich had been giving the dick to said girl for a while for his drama
Mizkif is the one who groped a chick then OTK tried to cover it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547346
>say it's probably a bad idea to play it
>THEY HECKIN BLOCKED HER!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547408
Are you saying vshojo wouldn't call her out for playing a nazi game?
Are the members bigots?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65546718
Nyanners? A grifter who exploits a community and then leaves it so she can shit-talk it? That'd never happen!

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547586
>nazi game
>has a trans character in it

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539529
Lol, the big sponsoring they got for Filian was fucking Fansly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547668
>exploits a community and then leaves it
I remember people said she would stop being a vtuber after a couple months for this reason. That was years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547408
What do you think a block entails? A straight jacket?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547346
Nazuna was advised not to play it. She took that advice. Silver was also advised not to play it. She did not take that advice. Silver playing the game is proof that they didn't block anyone from playing it. Nazuna not playing the game is proof she listened to the advice in regards to it. I've made this as simple as I can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547691
the fansly shilling in her award show was so embarrassing to watch

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547668
She didn't shit talk VShojo, at least not in any obvious way. Mostly dunked on Vox and some very broad VTuber cliches

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547741
Because she can still exploit it for hard cash. Give it time.

[Anonymous No.]

ITT:
>Retard ask a question
>Anons answer the question
>Retard accuse anons of shilling for answering the question

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547773
tfw Nazuna was somehow less of a dumb menhera than Silver, at least for one moment. Must have still been taking her meds back then

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547668
Nyanners didn't talk shit about vshojo. In fact she's probably the only ex-member that would be welcome'd back with open arms and the only one of the ex-members who's really missed by the vshojofags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547839
what are you even on about retard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547855
Harry Potter was basically Silver’s entire childhood. Her not playing that game was less likely than any of us winning the lottery. Dumb decision regardless

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547773
You are assuming that's how it was framed to both people. Why? What do you have?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547773
Nazuna was under the impression she was forbidden from playing it, it's what she said on Twitter. But we don't know exactly what they told her so she could have been exaggerating, or just not quite understood what she was told.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547773
I don't know why you wouldn't just play it off-stream to avoid both the terminally online harassers and the worse side effect of cringe /pol/tards rallying around you.
Wolf Bimbo is just really dumb, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65548027
Nazuna also said she was graduating today. She's not that bright.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65541194
M8 her boyfriend made millions years ago and somehow didn't end up being a pedophile or a drug addict.
She's made millions off of idiots who thought they'd have a chance to be one of the guys whose cum flowed so thick into her that she told stories about scraping it out on stream after the event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547963
I can buy that, but she didn't have to stream it. I suspect she wanted the drama to get some fame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547963
I got a grill from a supermarket lottery once. And playing wizard game so more troons join the statistics is never a dumb decision.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65548061
The correct title for her is still "unemployed", not "housewife".

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547001
I see, so we are time-looping after all.
If so, then why those 3 left was already explained and laid out by them.
If we would like to discuss current events instead, then the writings were on the wall for a long time. The language barrier problem (on many levels) was something she mentioned herself during her last stream. But imo, another, even more important thing she didn't say, was that Mike was an unexpected success. It wasn't supposed to be like that, it was supposed to be just her alt. So all of a sudden she found herself in that strange position, where she would have to split her IP between two characters. Which I bet every manager on earth would advise against, especially for a small content creator like her - it's not like she's a company that can maintain several IPs at once.
I don't see any overarching connection between why Nyan/Vei/Silver and Nazuna left. They left for very different reasons, separated by a time which is considered long in such a young trend as vtubing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545561
>They shot up christian schools.
And i hope they do it again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65548258
>Mike was an unexpected success
Mike existed before Nazuna, which was also when she was more successful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539529
Why are so many people on this board brain damaged

[Anonymous No.]

>>65548382
this doesn't contradict anything I wrote

[Anonymous No.]

>>65548522
How can she be an unexpected success after Nazuna joined VShojo if she was already more successful before she joined?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545443
>>65546948
>>65547067
You’re not asking them to not go on twitter you’re asking them to not stream. There chats was getting raided when they tried to stream it

[Anonymous No.]

>>65548652
>There chats was getting raided when they tried to stream it
turn on sub only mode, problem solved. what kind of retardation is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547127
What you’re saying makes a lot of sense if not for the fact you made multiple threads about why this is the best company ever and there is no need to leave. Why is it normal now but wasn’t normal before?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65548027
Call her smart then immediately call her dumb. Vshojo can do no wrong only the talents can

[Anonymous No.]

>>65548522
>>65548622
I think you mean to say that Nazuna was an unexpected failure.

[Anonymous No.]

>Nyanners
Became a housewife
>Veibae
Became a housewife
>Silver
No idea what she's doing
>Nazuna
Streaming on her main more

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
>Are they stupid?

Consider the girls that have left and I think you can figure out the answer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540954
3 out of those 4 won’t matter in a year when they inevitably cheat on their bf or the guys get bored of the whore. And being a VA in japan is not only lucrative but even more stressful than other countries. Now her relationships will be even more scrutinized even if she doesn’t become famous

[Anonymous No.]

>>65548799
>why this is the best company ever
why do you lie, show me the supposed threads where this is happening?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65549052
if nyanners and vei are considered housewives then society is doomed

[Anonymous No.]

>>65544855
>vshojo: Hey we advise not playing this game because streamers are being targeted by trannies over it
>silvervale: I’m gonna play it
>silvervale: Wtf why didn’t vshojo help me

[Anonymous No.]

>>65549126
trophy wives? In the age of mid worship, of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65542960
Flip flopping after someone says it bad it’s why he called you shills

[Anonymous No.]

>>65549126
It's unemployed people mad that the streamers don't have two jobs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65548027
Nazuna explained in more detail on stream. She knew she was not forbidden. She just made a misleading tweet because she's menhera or didn't want to type a long explanation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65549176
Vshojo: where we support you as long as you share our political beliefs.
No drawbacks huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65543575
>That’s how they typically work
So if I look up talent agencies right now all their CEOs including vshojos’ will be living out of a box because all their money, outside of what’s needed to keep on the lights, goes back to the talents

[Anonymous No.]

>>65549277
Can I see this? I was only aware of the tweet, which seemed pretty clear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65549210
>veibae
>streaming
She gets her holes filled and spends her boyfriend's money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65543996
>Idol culture aspect
The only things she couldn’t say was what twitch TOS wouldn’t let her. What’s with the obvious lies?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65549387
Why is that a bad thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65548928
Wrong anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65549321
I see were at the point we make shit up

[Anonymous No.]

>>65549418
anon he thinks saying retard on stream (which isn't even bannable) equals defeating le evil idol culture

[Anonymous No.]

>>65544462
>>65544764
So the options are vshojo was stressing her out or vshojo is the bestest company ever and she’s just crazy. I would’ve never expected vshojo fans to be the ones obsessed with brand loyalty considering the numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>65549482
I heard that Vshojo has the talents waxed on the regular. Any that refuse will be denied viewbotting privileges.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65549528
3.3% REPRESENT

[Anonymous No.]

>>65549176
So if kson played a game that made chinks mad against their advice they also wouldn't support her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65549328
Find out when she tweeted that and then it's either in the stream shortly before that or one or two after it, I don't remember which. And a lot of her streams are sub locked and I don't really care so I'm not going to look it up. She explained that management told her the game would make people seethe so it's best to stay away. There's also a clip of Kson explaining the same thing that is in a clip that's probably easier to find.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65549788
That was months ago... on Twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65549743
Is it hard for you not to make bad faith arguments? Vshojo didnt drop support cause she played the wizard game. Its also not Vshojos job to police her chat cause of butthurt troons, thats her own job. Its also fucking hilarious when you dumb retards have zero understanding of what vshojo is. You think its like hololive/nijisanji, where they control every aspect. Literal brainless moron.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65549528
How would the company responsible for her having public meltdowns about her numbers? Keep in mind none of the other members do that.
Anyway, I think the company is a lot better off without those three (not even going to include Nazuna because she was never part of anything) and their replacements are just straight-up upgrades. They were either largely absent or their personalities just didn't mesh the others', plus their gross-out nastiness and public bfs attracted a lot of negative attention.
Then again, I don't represent "VShojo fans", I'm just one person, maybe real VShojo fans are just craving more toilet humor and boyfriends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65549942
>not VShojos job to police their chat
That's literally part of their job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65550034
There was no issue with Silver's chat, a few shitters showed up and were instantly permabanned. Silver was mad over mean tweets about her, and Vshojo literally can't stop people from tweeting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65550034
But it isnt, Vshojo doesnt run the channel... Can you learn what the fuck your talking about dumbass?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65550085
VShojo sources a lot of the mods

[Anonymous No.]

>>65541194
well given that her husband is obscenely rich, she can probably get away with it

[Anonymous No.]

>>65550125
>im going to continue to expose im utterly clueless what im talking about instead of making the intelligent choice to stop responding
ok

[Anonymous No.]

>>65549952
Ok we get it. Vshojo takes your money and watches troons potentially murder you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65550198
You really think that every new member brings a whole team of mods along with them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65550402
I wonder if it would surprise you that the mods are usually friends of the talents. Vshojo does not moderate any channel. Vshojo, has zero control of any of the channels. Get this through your head. Its not hololive, its not nijisanji. Vshojo talents have full control over themselves and cannot be forced by vshojo itself to do ANYTHING.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65550402
VShojo does provide mods for new members if they want. But Silver is a founding member and her mods are the same people who moderate her Discord and don't have anything to do with VShojo beyond being paid by them back when she was a member.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65550553
A simple "yes" would've sufficed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65550402
I would like to reiterate that there was no problems with Silver's twitch chat. Vshojo could have helped clean it up if Silver asked them, but she didn't, because her own mods had no problem banning the few people who showed up to complain there.

Vshojo can appoint mods to new members if they request it, but Silver never had to do that, as she was an established streamer with her own mods already when she joined Vshojo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65550553
>>65550693
>>65550909
Y'all need to figure this shit out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65550962
Y'all need to get reading comprehension because none of those three posts conflict with each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65551090
So VShojo can and can't moderate at the same time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65551327
>if a member asks, vshojo will give them mods
>silver never asked because she had her own mods
Do you get it yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65551327
They can get mods if requested.
They can't moderate if not requested.

Vshojo can't assign mods, only the channel owner can do that, and Vshojo does not own the Vshojo girls' channels. They don't know their passwords and can't log in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65551382
That makes sense, but it also contradicts >>65550553

[Anonymous No.]

>>65551444
Those mods arent under vshojo control...If vshojo offers mod help, the talents is the one in charge...

[Anonymous No.]

>>65551444
Yeah, it's technically incorrect to say "vsj does not moderate any channel" because some of Mata's mods are from the company, maybe Kuro and Henya's as well. But it's not a big deal and not relevant to Silver.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65551519
I doubt the talent as an individual is selecting these people. They're likely selected by a staff member, which would be someone at VShojo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65551752
Utterly irrelevant, if the talent ask for mods from vshojo, those mods answer to the talent, not vshojo. You would have an argument if it was the otherway around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65551718
>>65551718
The mods you are saying are "from the company" are actually just volunteers from other girls. Kson and Nazuna's mods were from Meldody, Mouse, and Nyan. Henya's were some of the same plus some Kson discord mods. Kuro mostly added his own old fans. I didn't really check with Mata but it's probably the same story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65551858
>those mods answer to the talent, not vshojo
How do we know this? Are there any examples where the mods sided with a talent over VShojo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
>cons about joining vshojo?
Well for one thing you can’t, not unless you’re already successful and friends with the talents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65551966
>How do we know this?
>>65551431

[Anonymous No.]

>>65551966
>How do we know this?
Because of how vshojo operates you dingus

[Anonymous No.]

>>65551995
I doubt the talent is individually vetting each mod that they're recommended.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
>Everyone who leaves is a drama whore and rips off other Vtubers like Shylily

[Anonymous No.]

Where are people getting vshojo offers moderation support? Cause they don't. Like >>65551890 said, they are friends of the other members. Vshojo doesnt have any staff that provide moderation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552057
Why does that matter? If the mod does something they don't like, they can just remove them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552019
>Because of how vshojo operates
We know how VShojo operates?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552140
Yes. The talents control their own content. That's the whole point of Vshojo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545755
>mber him being an Ice Poseidon dick sucker back in the day
isn't mizkif sister a porn actress ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65551890
Yes, but VShojo arranges to get them, rather than the talent just asking each other for mods. They're also paid by VShojo I believe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552225
That's an ideal, not some organization structure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552363
Perhaps you should tell vshojo that then because thats how they work

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552307
yeah some onlyfans whore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552400
They can't simultaneously have structured staff and not have staff structure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552486
The staff is for managing merchandise and sponsorships. Thats it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
This was always a bizarre statement, theres pros and cons to joining any corpo really, even if it just comes down to opportunity cost when weighing your options. Coming out and implying that you’re a flawless company with absolutely no negatives for joining just makes me trust you even less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552538
The merch management is outsourced, so is the staff just for sponsorships?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552486
How did your dumbass arrive at this conculsion? They do have staff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552543
maybe you should watch the stream and you would know what she was actually talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552575
It used to be outsourced, now it's in-house through the VShojo Store.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552575
>The merch management is outsourced
Incorrect

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552587
>How did your dumbass arrive at this conculsion? They do have staff.
Never have I suggested that they don't have staff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552333
The number of paid mods is actually really small, and most are under the creator's payroll, not VShojo. Again, your point applies to people from that just came to the company and didn't had that much working on Twitch, Silver has always streamed on Twitch and most of her mods have years of being with her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552664
I've never said it applied to Silver. Quite the opposite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552657
It's done by Warren James, Inc. The entire store is ran by them. It even says so on the site.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
>en masse
now that's a joke
>Nazuna
everyone and their mother knew she'd leave. she has a big job now. good for her.

you're just a shit stirrer

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552657

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552716
>>65552741
My friends I beg you to watch streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552575
> merch management is outsourced
All merch for any vtuber is technically outsourced, What the staff does is contact the merchandise company say for example, goodsmile about opportunities

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552774
I've bought merch, so I've dealt with these bozos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552806
The entire store site is run by a different company, including customer support.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552865
....No kidding, its almost like when you buy from merchandise from goodsmile, its goodsmiles customer support whos going to be on the line.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552925
Except when you order from VShojo, it's Warren James customer support not picking up the line.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552601
It’s been forever since i saw this stream, is the image in the OP edited or something? It literally says there are supposedly no cons for joining Vshojo, what else am I supposed to take from this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552774
The only that would apply is their division of "management" over designs and ideas, and even in the design department is usually artists they get and usually what the creator wants. Outside of that is Warren James.

[Anonymous No.]

Can't wait for Gura and Selen to Join Vshojo next year

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552741
>powered by
This does not mean what you think it means. This means james warren is providing the storefront, it doesnt mean vshojo isnt running it. You could of literally googled this. Thats like saying twitch is actually vshojos talent agency because they are on twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552992
she's not trying to convince other people to join vshojo like you and the OP are trying to frame it as
she was explaining her own personal thought process for her joining and said she couldn't see any reason not to

[Anonymous No.]

>>65553044
https://www.warrenjames.org/

[Anonymous No.]

>>65553097
Utterly irrelevant, you dont undestand what the fucking words mean. Vshojo is paying warren james for the storefront.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552992
There were no cons to *HER* joining Vshojo. Kson was explaining why she joined Vshojo on her stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539018
The only reason to join Vshojo is if you're subpar and can't even manage you own shit. That's literally it. So to answer your question, yes, vshojo are stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65553122
Homie, it's a link to their website.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65553161
Yes and its utterly meaningless. Heres another example, any website hosted by AWS, is "powered by" them. You are absolutely clueless here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65553209
Did you not even look at the website?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552774
The reason I posted this is because Vshojo management is heavily involved in arranging merch deals. An anon above was trying to say that Vshojo doesn't do anything in that department because they work with another company, which is not correct. Vshojo members describe this process on their streams, some even show prototypes and stuff like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552992
There are no cons for her, she was also against the contract dispute that pushed the other 3 from the company. She waited and got resolved, and there's still no cons for her, they allow her to do whatever she wants for content, no pushing shit like non vtuber shit (they even clip it and sell merch out her IRL image), she probably gets help legally and tech related for her anniversary and fan meet ups. She also used most of her "VShojobucks" for traveling (confirmed by her) to the US and Taiwan, as they were business expenses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65553286
Merch collabs are not the same as VShojo merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65553334
I know you're not gonna watch streams but please at least refrain from spreading lies over things you don't understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65553334
Are you.....being serious here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552983
Did you even read my post, no shit ESL-kun

[Anonymous No.]

>>65553379
So you consider in-house merch, done through their primary manufacturer, to be the same as collab merch, done by an external manufacturer, to be the same?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65553488
What the heck are you talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>65553488
>primary manufacturer
no vtuber company makes their own shit, jesus fucking christ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540810
holofags on this board have so much trouble imagining a business that operates differently than Cover. You can see it in how they assume every company functions the same as Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65553533
Senpai Squad merch isn't the same merch they're selling on the VShojo site.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65553569
That's why they would need to have a manufacturer. Someone needs to source the blanks and print the shirts for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65553593
next you gonna say they don't use the fax machine anymore... Very funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>65553593
judging by this thread they don't fucking operate anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>65546666
i'm confused where you faggots get this idea. yes she took big breaks because she's dying of the common cold or some bs but she streamed on the 27th

[Anonymous No.]

>>65541986
auditions were a failed experiment because none of the applicants could carry their weight

this in not a company for Cinderella stories unlike all the ones that own your whole ass career and identity, this company relies on talents being well established due to only taking a cut from merch and other deals that is still generous for the talent

go beg Nijisanji, Hololive or a small startup vtuber agency for the "free success", but even for that the bar is really high nowadays demanding you to be a multitalented entertainer and singer

[Anonymous No.]

>>65554097
>if they don't micromanage your entire life then they don't do anything
holobro...

[Anonymous No.]

People will claim that they know how the company works, but they don't know basic, fundamental shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65554160
And that would be... precisely her 9th stream in the last 3 months, three streams a months average.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65546718
Based. Cockroaches are repulsive.
I'd be watching Matara if it wasn't for the model.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65550125
VShojo's offered mods to people who didn't have any or wanted extra ones likes Mata or Henya around the time of their debut since their fanbases were built on YT not Twitch and people need time to get used to the new tools. People like Silver who were established for a very long time and had full mod teams don't get extra help unless they specifically request it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65545103
I was preemptively banned from posting on Ironmouse's chat and the mod response I got was "We don't like racists."
Well that could just be the mods angry cause their moms told them to take out the trash if they want their tendies but wrongthink is always punished.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65555919
My point was that part of their role in the matter would be to provide support if she needed it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65556096
I guess it's her mods that were the Nazis then.
Who do you follow/send chats to that gave them this impression?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65556607
If they were NatSoc, they would have soluted me or not done anything. I don't see NatSoc or Classical Fascists doing this kind of shit or anything along the lines of SWATting or doxxing (at least not on the scale of Far Left).
It is probably cause of arguments on other chats or Discord servers that led to someone shouting "raaaay-siiiiist" to their mod buddies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65556864
not beating the allegations

[Anonymous No.]

>>65549327
>they need to pay staff
>Oh, so they're all just borderline homeless, is that it?
You're not very bright, are you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65556152
If she asked for it*
It's not VShojo's job to decide what the talent does or doesn't need

[Anonymous No.]

>>65557253
That's the fuzzy part. We don't know whether or not they're proactive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65552774
LMAO you couldn't pay me to watch vwhorejo

[Anonymous No.]

>>65557826
>i have literally no idea what i'm talking about
sick bro that's epic

[Anonymous No.]

>>65547586
Yeah I figure silvervale left because vshoujo harassed her for playing it

[Anonymous No.]

>>65557826
No problem, I will watch them for you.