/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>I wasn't the one who invited Nazuna to VSHOJO
Do you really believe it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
Lying bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>only addressing the elephant in the room now when things are looking grim for VshojoJP

[Anonymous No.]

>haha no guys the woman I started saviorfagging for when she was on a menhera bender definitely wasn't a nepohire to the company I was going to
She should have just said nothing. She can't say she wasn't warned, either. People told her outright the woman was a basket case, not sure what she expected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
I believe

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518481
>VShojoJP
This isn't a real thing. Only Kson has been streaming in Japanese for the past year (Nazuna was dead long before she quit and Henya is basically 100% EN) and one member does not a branch make

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518579

[Anonymous No.]

Either she's actually retarded enough to think people won't see through such a blatant lie or she thinks her fans are absolutely brain-dead enough to believe this garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

Why does she feel the need to comment on this? Why couldn't she just let it be a mystery?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518579
>This isn't a real thing
So why is there a specific Twitter account for it?
https://twitter.com/VShojoJP

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
>It's all a misunderstanding, just a series of individual coincidences that happened to be the timing of each individual decision. Some might say, "But Kson, aren't we all just a series of individual decisions hurtling through the eternl void of empty space?" It's all just coincidence.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Nazuna leaving?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
Yeah, I believe her.
I also believe that Nijisanji isn't nigger company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518639
she a me me me me girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518723
kson doesn't touch her anymore now that henya is around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518707
Because they tried to get it going and somehow more than a year and a half later they still have exactly one Japanese speaking member. It never began for them. I have no idea how they fucked up this bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518723
Vshojo is oppressing her and not getting her opportunities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518774
Didn't Kson say they were going to debut more JP mems sometime this year? Or is that a rrat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518823
They're going to really have to hurry it up then

[Anonymous No.]

Discourse is dead on the internet and there is no longer any objective truth.

Rangeban SEA as soon as possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
>I wasn't the one who invited her
I'm sure it's true, technically. But there's no way they were both hired without talking to each other. Kson definitely convinced her to join or asked Vshojo to hire her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518868
Why do nijiniggers hate sea so much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518579
>Henya is basically 100% EN
Tell me you don't watch Henya without telling me you don't watch Henya.

Every single sentence in her zatsu, pre-zatsu and announcements, and even in many solo plays, is ALWAYS repeated first in JP and then in EN. I don't know the share of viewers who are JP-only, but it's quite high. In fact, she may be the best at this kind of game, because she manages to do it consistently, intuitively, and without annoying either side. (She was doing it before too.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518823
Haachama got cold feet and Chihiro taking to long to leave NijiJP

[Anonymous No.]

>Another Talent Freedom Campaign
Only retards or mori would believe this bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519006
>is ALWAYS repeated first in JP
She hasn't done this in a long time

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519006
She always does EN first then JP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519020
>Haachama got cold feet
rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518573
I hate all these people so I'm not sure what this image is supposed to be conveying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519173
no cons but they all left

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
I cannot believe I ever used to respect this person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518723
She was never really into it and was getting bigger numbers as Miguel.

If anything the bigger mystery is why she joined in the first place

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518620
She is that fucking retarded. The more time passes the more I believe her quitting hololive was actually a blessing

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519173
No cons except merch cut.

[Anonymous No.]

If you don't believe Kson saying this, and I know for a fact you wouldn't believe it if Nazuna said it herself, then who would you believe? Yagoo or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518481
>only addressing the elephant in the room now when things are looking grim
ah, same as pic related

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518639
Because Rushia's fans are just as deranged as she is and on Xitter you get bullied for spewing delusional schizobabble. Kson saying this makes everyone blaming her for how Nazuna turned out look delusional (because they are).

[Anonymous No.]

She is starting to show her true colors.
Can't believe I cried for this bitch when she left.
Can't believe I have to say this, but the bugmen where right all along.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518573
And nothing of value was lost

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518723
New VA job, new major label singer job, better numbers as Mikeneko, she felt alone as the only jp only member of vshojo but kept waiting for supposed new members that never came by.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
maybe she is saying that Michael invited herself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518823
Not only kson but the supposed responsible for vshojo jp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518573
>Nothing
>Show the 4 whorsemen of the vtuber drama
Yeah, I'm thinking Vshojo is on top of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519246
I don't think it's that hard to believe, girls hate direct language so she technically might've not outright advise her to join, but JP culture and language basically imitating Chinese Whispers sometimes Michalcat took their convo as an invitation to join.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518723
She unironically getting better opportunities by quitting vshojo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519367
Thank you, this is a very comprehensive answer. Respect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519367
>she felt alone
Silvervale....

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519020
lol as if Chiichan would join.
She's going to VSPO / Neo Porte.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
>you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink
At least Henya is slurping

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518723
It doesn't take much to realize that the Twitch /#/magic only works on Twitch.
Kson is basically 3views on Youtube and IM only got 2k ccvs.
Just like coins that can't be redeemed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519367
That's funny, wasn't Rushia sololive? she did a few collabs with Marine and Gen3 events dragged her along but even then she was mostly alone thanks to not moving to Tokyo until her last year.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1544080640882069504
i hate numberthirdies so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
Gee I wonder where that misunderstanding came from

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
>not inviting her friends to join the corpo she loves and the branch she basically built herself
Yeah I'm thinking her real weeb status has been revoked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
>I don't understand why some people think that way
yes we know kson, you're retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
K-son why you lie like this lol

[Anonymous No.]

KSON LIED
NAZUNA DIED

[Anonymous No.]

who cares about this?
just shut up and spread your legs you slut

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519599
>自分の活動の方向性に特定の誰かを誘ったりしたことは今もこれからもこれまでもないです
>(EN)I have never, nor will I ever, invite anyone specific to the direction of my activities.
Kson seems to have forgotten that she invited a rapper (against rule1) to her own IRL event just last month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519551
Kson has more Youtube subs than even Mouse

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519742
she's not talking about collabs, monkey

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518784
You're full of shit. If you think vshojo was oppressing rushia you cuck bootlickers lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
She said this as soon as nazuna joined in a tweet but it didn't cause drama so nobody cared

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519246
I think people just have rose coloured glasses and and forgetting all the bad things she did or started

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519339
Whoa there buddy I know you're mad but to say the bugmen were right thats a fucking reach calm down kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
Oh no!
Oh no no no!
It wasn't me it was Justin Ignacio, he's the one!
.......?
Lalo didn't send you, no Lalo?
Oh thank god, oh christ!

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519918
What will make you say they was right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519593
In hololive she still had a support network and "friends". In vshoujo she had maybe kson on a good day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519742
At first I thought you posted random runes and bullshit translations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518723
Vshojo just doesn't give her any opportunities. She is the only true JP member and even if she wasn't it's not like Vshojo can give you that many opportunities in the first place.
Also she is more popular as michael cat than as nazuna so there is really no point in staying.
And she also got other job who likely pay better than having vshitshow plagarded on your face and actually give future prospect outside the stagnant water of twitch Vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518573
I completely forgot about pink cat. Is she still streaming? I haven't heard anything about her in months.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
lying through her teeth kek, that's the only thing those fucking zhangs were right about

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519989
Go off yourself Holokek you aint fooling shit.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518481
>VshojoJP

[Anonymous No.]

>>65520017
She recently did a high effort gag stream where she debuted a new corpo (VNUS) which was crashing and burning during debut. Other than that she's been kinda chilling, soft retired from streaming, I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518573
>>65520037

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519020
>Haachama
wwww
>Apex Loli
Nijis don't know anything about overseas
>Retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519963
They weren't right Taiwan is Taiwan. Anyways, yeah k-son is showing her true colors here with this whole situation, even then rushia promised to learn English more than a few times and she never did. They hired henya and rushia avoided her like a plague too so it's not like they didn't have anyone for her kson and henya both speak Japanese. Rushia was just being the menhera she's always known for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518481
Im not a vshokek but lets be honest here, it looked grim for vshojo JP back then when Nazuna debuted and ended being a 1k ccv shitter, her leaving now is a non factor. Whatever role she had back then was replaced by the great success that is Henya, who streams mainly in english anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65520104
>soft retired from streaming
She's literally streaming the same hours she's always used to. What she's soft retired from is having viewers or being relevant because nobody wants to watch a vtuber with a boyfriend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
Yeah. Where would kson get the clout to be hiring people for a company she just joined herself?
I believe that someone wanted to try hiring Japanese vtubers for the company and saw two easy pick-ups in the popular ex-Holos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518573
Now we just need Froot to quit as well so Vshojo could be at least a half decent company

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519599
Catalogmonkeys don't care about truth. Jesus himself could come down from heaven confirm what Kson said and these people still wouldn't believe an objective truth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65520300
Why are you weirdos so obsessed with Froot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65520300
Froot won't quit and Vshojo is a an American company, they won't fire her if they haven't fire her out after it was found she used to bully her trans brother call him faggot and used to wish him death over him being gay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65520357
Hi froot mom

[Anonymous No.]

>>65520357
Because she is a whore and a piece of shit. Her being there instantly stains Vshojo as a whole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518488
>People told her outright the woman was a basket case, not sure what she expected.
Kson is a saviorfag by nature. The problem is you can't save someone as unhinged as Nazuna is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65520357
Because even a morally corrupt cesspool full of shitposters, schizos, pedos, racists, haters and bigots like /here/ has higher moral standards than froot.

[Anonymous No.]

When did it all.go so wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>65520226
>Whatever role she had back then was replaced by the great success that is Henya, who streams mainly in english anyways.
Last part invalidates your sentence.
The goal was to compete in JP market.
If the only success story streams in English, then that goal was never achieved and entire thing is a failure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
Why can't corpo vtubers stop lying?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65520562
Most people didn't even know there was a vshojo jp branch, I don't know why they didn't just assigned nazuna to that branch even if they had what would've changed? Mike is crazy and can't be trusted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65520074
oh, so its just an out of context thing some guy on the catalog is waffling about...

[Anonymous No.]

this sure is a lot of forced drama over what seems to be an amicable split that was made a long time ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>65521044
Welcome to /vt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519989
>Hires a known menhera backstabbing bitch with a history of breaking nda and selling corpo gossip to the japanese keemstar.
Not given enough opportunities? What are you talking about man?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65520281
The general conception s that outside of some gag streams, pretty much all she does is reacting to gaming in repeat, while letting all the creative streams on his back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518723
She got tricked into joining what she thought was a proper agency which would allow her to get new opportunities. What she got instead was a Mouse centric agency with a trickle down approach to the rest of the members. She didn't renew the vshojo contract and left to join a proper Japanese Agency which will provide her with singing and sieyuu opportunities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
>only makes a statement about this common theory now that it doesn’t make her look good
Why do whores lie all the time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65521372
And I guess Henya's explosive growth and Zentreya's slow, consistent growth just came from fucking magic, then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518723
More like why would she stay? We used to shit on Voice-ore cause they looked like a 2-bit corpo but they managed to score her an anime role and a music contract within a few months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65521044
90% of the "drama" is mainly people overreacting over shit like this. Nazuna and VShojo parted ways, end of story, world keeps spinning and nothing changes, yadda yadda.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519915
Like what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
Who else would be capable of it? Weird to lie about this. It's not like it makes her look bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65522097
VShojo staff

[Anonymous No.]

>>65521446
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519624
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
No, lol. Pretty much anyone who watches both knows it's bullshit
Even if you don't watch streams, Kson's intro trailer was literally her picking Nazuna up off the streets. I think she only started pushing this once it became clear Nazuna was sick of VShojo to save face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65522107
I guess the trailer showing her discovering Nazuna was a communication issue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519006
NTA, but I remember a Tweet back when Henya was announced of a Japanese guy joking about how Pikamee had about 4 times the amount of tweets as ピカミー
Also look at when Henya streams most of the time. Those hours don't suit JP audiences at all. Hell, Nazuna at one point outright asked Henya which was her first language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65521506
>Voice-ore
They also helped set up her paid fan Discord server, her fan participation Minecraft server, her fanmeet in August and handle some of her legal affairs
Why is a company with 1/50th of the funding of VShojo doing so much more for her? Because they value her far more than VShojo ever did

[Anonymous No.]

>>65521446
VShojo is honestly probably fine if you're on the EN side. But if you're JP only, it's a nightmare, especially if you're an awkward introvert
Like I assume that's part of the reason VShojo never hired another JP only Vtuber despite Nazuna joining 1.5 years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65522302
Anyone who watches kson knows she said the same thing a year ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>65522477
This. Vshojo is focused on an EN audience and that's fine. But if they truly want to breach into the JP market they need to hire an entire JP branch at once, not 1-2 talents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519006
lmao
When's the last time you watched Henya

[Anonymous No.]

>>65522583
Henya still gets quite a few japanese chatters in her streams and she responds to them.
She is mainly focused on english though, true and her jp fans probably understand english well, otherwise she would be hard to watch for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65522643
Yeah, it's no coincidence that when she asks something in Japanese, chat gets flooded with Japanese text. They just keep quiet, but they're watching

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519742
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>65522423
Except that VShojo did tried to help her, they set up basically most of her stuff on stream, got her translators, even her two models came from a good collaboration, and for appearances she had quite a few planned (that she never came btw). I agree that Voice Ore got her more from what she actively wanted but it’s not like VShojo sat down to not try to help her, it’s a point of what can you do with someone like her, neither Cover or VShojo could actually manage her, hopefully Voice Ore can actually give her something and she won’t end up leaving them as well

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/live/T71dz6gNQwo?si=meyeIQbACiLvfUAq

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
>used Rushia as a shield so she can join a corpo after shitting on corpos for a year without backlash in the name of saving her
Why do people like this bitch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65522792
>even her two models came from a good collaboration
Getting Kagura Nana for the first one was great. I'll always be disappointed that she didn't come back for the second model.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait, Nazuna left Vshojo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65522915
Today, yes. After being inactive for months and streaming like 2 days ago and today

[Anonymous No.]

>>65522915
no, vshojo fired nazunahsnhg

[Anonymous No.]

I don't get it. Why does it matter if kson recruited her or not???

[Anonymous No.]

ITT: Holokeks desperately attempting to frame vtubers freely making business decisions on their own while keeping their IP as a bad thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65522876
This was also promoted by VShojo by the way. VShojo isn’t the one holding their IP, but to my knowledge they do reach for artists if possible for them, as I don’t think Kagura cared that much for Rushia to make her a new model

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523035
Kson has been hyping up VShojo and how good it is for her entire time there. A good fit for her but a terrible fit for Nazuna.
She's probably doing damage control. I mean it's really odd how her Tweet that's supposed to be wishing Nazuna good luck is mostly about herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523081
>as I don’t think Kagura cared that much for Rushia to make her a new model
That's the biggest question mark. Nana has drawn Rushia art before and was in the Nazuna fanserver, but she couldn't make up her mind about how much she wanted to publicly acknowledge Nazuna. I'm glad Yasuyuki has gone back to openly acknowledging her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
>>65518573
Whores lie as naturally as they breath.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523282
do you guys think kson invited her to voice-ore too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523085
People will eventually get pesky about “well you brought her here, why are you stopping her” or something like that. Just say that and it shouldn’t be that big of an issue, to be honest, I do partially believe on Kson, but I do think Mike probably just heard her about her future plans, got interested and they hooked up. It’s not an direct invitation kind of deal everyone assumes, just a regular old “I got a new job”

[Anonymous No.]

>>65522876
>>65523132
If I recall correctly kagura choose to side with the chinks when they sperged out over kson being in the same company as nazuna, and that's why nazuna got a second model so quickly that wasn't meaningfully different from the one drawn by kagura nana

[Anonymous No.]

>>65521446
For the growth Henya has shown, she hasn't been given proportional support in comparison to Mouse. My point isn't that they don't get support, it's more so that they are very conservative with support unless you're the central star.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523340
she roves the chinks preaze undastand

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523450
well they dont even support silver when she got attack by LGBTQ even mousey boyfriend connor

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523450
She got most of the things she wanted in the few months she was in. The thing with Ironmouse is that she’s often asking. VShojo ain’t a company where they tard wrangle everyone into doing and giving stuff, it’s literally an ask and give. Also Henya doesn’t care that much other than her studio made 3D stream, pretty much all she cared has been already completed, and she just rather stays on stream playing games and watching shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523450
And what magical support does Mouse receive that Henya doesn't?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523303
Did Kson make an animation short of how she got Nazuna into Voice-Ore?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523535
>they didn't overturn the 1st ammendment to stop people from tweeting that they don't like silver
what a huge yab how could they do that...

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523558
Did Kson make any animation? Didn't know she was an animator.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523566
Even a generic "we don't tolerate slander or harassment of our talents" would have been something. VShojo staff are hilariously conflict adverse

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523606
"don't feed the trolls" is the correct strategy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523566
sending death treath 1st ammendment

nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523558
Anon that video Merry threw together was fiction. Those events did not happen in real life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523661
What Kson said is also fiction. Those events did not happen in real life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523606
I mean it worked for them, and even Silvervale. She’s on the industry where a bad opinion can actively kill your career, and no company (especially one that promotes that their creators are free to do whatever they want) should risk their head for someone publicly. They unironically did good for their brand, if Silvervale dig her own hole, why go with her? Don’t live in a fantasy world where VShojo needed to be her white knight

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523535
you mean

https://twitter.com/HUN2R/status/1627129344283000832?lang=en

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523712
What are you talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523629
>if vshojo didn't tweet "don't be mean to our talents lol" then they haven't referred threats to the authorities
do thirdies really

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523566
>you can use the 1st ammendment to send death threats
Cool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523792
Did Hololive saying be nice helped stopping the shit that people say about Holostars

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523035
Because kson used Rushia's menhera retardation for her benefit.

[Anonymous No.]

she did?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523720
People won't join an agency that won't have their back in a pinch
VShojo is just lucky that Niji is almost actively hostile to their talents

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523824
no, which is why vshojo didn't do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523566
The First Amendment does not apply to private actors, such as private businesses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518573
>all evidence suggests that all four left for personal reasons and not because of a problem with the company
Hm

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523842
Except they did, Veibae confirmed that VShojo actively recommend her to not play the game beforehand, everyone knew the shitstorm that was yet to come, if Silvervale decided to not listen and do it, she was on her free will. They did the same for Nazuna

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523891
correct. you can not force twitter to remove "i don't like silvervale" tweets, as it is their right to keep them. the only thing vshojo can actually do is to tell their talents to stay away from the harry potter mob, which they did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523896
>all evidence suggests
*record scratch*
https://twitter.com/AmemiyaNazuna/status/1740688421553848570

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523929

[Anonymous No.]

>>65524016
>example of freedom
>"hehehe, talent freedom"
...yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523450
Henya gets everything she asks for from what I can tell. They even scrambled to fit her into the 3D concert immediately after she joined because it was important to her. It's more just that for Henya all she wants is to not have to leave her house and get support for new models, 3D, merch(Getting a Daki was a long term dream of hers and she has one now) and being able to do virtual meet and greets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65522302
>>65522097
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1544080640882069504

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518573
>they are all, in their own way, cats
it makes so much sense now. Around cats, don't relax.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65522792
Well sure they tried but the other company seemed to actually know what needed to be setup and accommodate her needs in what looks to be record time.

Helping with a model and setup the stream seems to be very basic, also what exactly did the translator do? It didn't seem like they knew what they were giving her and just assumed she'd fix stuff on her own.

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>>65524189
The other company had already 3 years in the market by the time Mike joined, it is exactly the same as Henya and VShojo after leaving VOMS, simply they had easier time on the other company. Which is fair, and again no one accuses Mike doing the wrong thing on that, but VShojo JP wouldn’t give her that because they don’t have simply the same presence. As for the “simple” stuff, if you know her, she’s an absolute mess, the fact she can stream is impressive to be honest. Helping her with that is more than enough. But it was clear that the problem was also probably the language barrier. The main division and the most knowledgeable one is the EN one

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518481
>things are looking grim for VshojoJP
it's just a legal entity for their Japanese talents because of local laws, it's not a branding thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65524422
What I'm saying is that just setting up her OBS over teamviewer, fixing the scene art and giving her a model was the bare minimum they could do. That's almost expected if you're an org and don't hire someone with their own model or assets no? Vshojo probably has a lot to learn how to optimise profitability and opportunities for their talents but since they don't take a cut there might not be an incentive from vshojo management to do that.

Feels like they'll squander more opportunities that way if they don't just hire pros continuously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
Lol she ego searched

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
People can read between the lines when you go "I can just show you the way I can't make the decision for you teehee" posts for months last year. Kson thinking you need to utter the words "I recruited her" for people to catch on, lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65524557
vshojo is a streamer org and mike wants things beyond streaming

[Anonymous No.]

So if kson didn't invite naz then like... who the hell did?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523839
why did she cheat on her husband?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65525379
loutlot

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519246
yes, and now her quitting VShojo is also a blessing.
>>65519331
this. BPDs attract overly codependent fans who treat her as a literal goddess who can do no wrong.
>>65520017
yeah, I see her sometimes pop up on twitch sidebar when I'm watching the genius.
>>65520226
>who streams mainly in english anyways.
no, she still streams bilingually, and sometimes she doesn't even translate JP things to EN (like JP TTS)
>>65520425
this
>>65520562
>The goal was to compete in JP market.
bullshit. VJP exists as a legal entity so they can actually have JP talents.
>If the only success story streams in English
except she doesn't, see above
>>65522583
me? the candy pop watchalong she hosted and will watch her again tomorrow when she returns.
Still. Bilingual.
>>65522710
>They just keep quiet, but they're watching
this, not everyone has the need to spam chat all the fucking time. hell, I don't even have a twitch account yet watch Henya religiously.
>>65522915
yes, finally, thank God.
>>65523546
>>65524117
correct.
>>65524007
>well known BPD lies again
>let's blame the kettle!
do michaelfags really
>>65524189
familiarize yourself with the concept of the unreliable narrator.

[Anonymous No.]

Chink thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
Nope. Her joining the same agency that I'm joining in is a toootal coincidence. The flyer to join a totally unknown agency just so happen to land on Nazuna's hand and we applied at same time, separately. Toooootally coincidence

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>>65527668
Cry me a river.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
HAHAHAHAHAHA.
What a pathetic snake. Holy fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518431
>>65518573
>>65518620
>>65518734
>>65519029
>>65519230
>>65519339
>>65519678
>>65519663
>>65519678
>>65519701
>>65519731
>>65519953
>>65520039
>>65522097
>>65522302
>>65522834
>>65523282
>>65524646
>>65528107
>>65527873
> she definitely tricked her into joining vshitshow?
>ACK the rrat I made up myself turned out to be a lie.
>she's definitely lying, what a bitch.
You guys are the definition of pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

>>65520104
>pink cat ripping off pippa now
grim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=BQT33xUox2s

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518573
Vshojo will be perfect when Froot is in that picture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65528643
that's the numberbrown playbook

[Anonymous No.]

>>65528643
HAHAHAHAHA.
Either you're retard still holding to your Kiryu Coco merch or you're actually Kson. Either way fuck you. Hopefully VShojoJP will fall apart soon and Henya will find better place in HoloEN4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
China is right about kekson

[Anonymous No.]

>>65528972
keep dreaming, mahmoud

[Anonymous No.]

>>65528643
>she definitely tricked her into joining vshitshow?
You know she didn’t have to be tricked into joining Vshojo? The less insane rrat was that she was a nepotism hire that got in through Kson. Considering the only way you can even get into Vshojo is through nepotism and they both came from Holo, it’s not a ridiculous stretch. Also if I’m remembering correctly, Kson and Rushia were communicating with each other after her termination.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65528643
I don't understand why my post is on that list.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
Lol, holy shit. She keeps getting less convincing. Aren't compulsive liars supposed to get better at it? Then again this is the same chick who managed to get worse at both English and Japanese while regularly speaking both...

[Anonymous No.]

>>65529319
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1544080640882069504

[Anonymous No.]

>>65528980
You'll have to work harder for your 50 cents a day than this, Zhang.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518488
>n-nepotismmmm!
Unless kuckson was/is running the company, no. Not nepotism. Recommending someone you know is not nepotism. Forcing the issue with part you have over the system is nepotism.
Do you really belieb they'd give her that much power

[Anonymous No.]

>>65521594
NTA but I mean, for all the positives that occurred not long after she drove the bugmen away from Hololive with the Taiwan yab, Kson also did a certain amount of irreparable damage to the company in the sense of the opportunities for other Holos to acquire bigger sponsor deals (like the ASUS one that got cancelled due to one retarded zhang wageslave), afford game perms like Muse Dash or any other of chink origin like Genshit, songs with chink composers Cover had to memoryhole their talents out of singing them live (Pieces is one of them but I think there were two or three more), among other irrelevant things that aren't worth discussing about.

Things are looking bright regardless of this, although them going IPO will never stop being bothersome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518620
It's both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65529501
cover did those things

[Anonymous No.]

>>65529107
No streamer in the Twitch world has ever made it without nepo hire.
New streamers start their careers by attending to Twitchcon and sucking the dick of 4views streamers.
You have lost yourself in your hatred for Vshojo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65529501
who cares, fuck dictators

[Anonymous No.]

>>65529568
>i believe everyone does this so that means its fine
Retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>65529552
Cover is only to blame for the way they unprofessionally handled the permissions yab and how they colossally fucked up with some artists and contract dealers at the time. Comparing this to the way they managed the Taiwan yab is like a day and night situation not everyone is well aware of.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65529715
they put out a statement saying they support the one china policy

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523303
Does kuckson work at voice-ore? No? Well then, faggot. Try being less retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>65529450
Learn English

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
The worst part about this post is that I read it in her mickey mouse ass sounding voice

[Anonymous No.]

>>65528972
>and Henya will find better place in HoloEN4.
lmao that will never happen. she has no reason to give up her IP rights now, plus holo working conditions and corpo "culture" are the polar opposite of how she prefers to work, which is 100% remote, including conventions she "attends" via remote link.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65529829
monkeys came up with a new word?
very creative

[Anonymous No.]

>>65527668
Dude, it's been a few years. The zhangs don't remember her, you're no longer capable of validating every single thing she does with "but muh zhangs reeeee".

[Anonymous No.]

I believe her! Afterall women never lie. Especially on the internet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65529985
You underestimate the autism and pettiness of zhangs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518573
Kson really got pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65528643
No, vshitshow fags such as (you)rself are the definition of pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65530059
that stream was her talking about her own reasons for joining vshojo and you retards keep pretending it was some sort of sales pitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>65530059
>got

[Anonymous No.]

>>65528643
>Vshojo JP is randomly announced after Rushia's graduation
>Vshojo in general are friends with kson
>kson alone would look retarded especially after she shit on corpos for over ayear after being fired from Hololive
>Rushia's a convenient shield she could use to protect herself from criticism
People mock Niji or Holo for Nepo hires like with Elira's pals or Sana being Ina's friend but pass for Vshojo? Retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65530089
The stream was held literally hours after the announcement, what do you think?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65530161
>she shit on corpos for over ayear
link please
you've been saying this for 1.5 years now

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518573
>spend a year after getting fired by Hololive talking shit about corpos
>joins one and does this
Why did no one call her out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65530202
Her mildom streams? Aren't you a cocofag?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65530201
so when was she supposed to explain? before? a year after?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65530161
Vshojo is literally nothing but nepotism hires, why would anyone complain about it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65530306
The clue is in your own post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65530280
yeah i watched those and she never talked shit about anyone
if you want to claim she did you should provide a timestamp or a clip instead of just repeating your monkey delusions for 2 years

[Anonymous No.]

>>65524016
>don’t stream this game because twittards will attack you and we can’t stop it
>plays the game anyway
>“we had nothing to do with her decision”
Believe it or not, “talent freedom” doesn’t mean “no consequences”. If they were really hypocrites they would never have let the stream happen in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>it's literally impossible to join vshojo without someone inside getting you in
>kson is friends with both members of vshojoJP
>"erm I didn't get them in, I simply said how great vshojo was and introduced them in, but they signed the contract on their own!"
Kson would be a godlike scammer if she took that job

[Anonymous No.]

>>65530280
Fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>kson humming the vshojo theme all the way to the bank
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCGD9dT12C0

[Anonymous No.]

>>65530629
hang yourself monkey

[Anonymous No.]

>>65530474
Hey, she didn’t force them to join at gunpoint so technically shes not lying, checkmate!

[Anonymous No.]

kson is nowhereo near as good as coco was
but its unironically all mikeneko's fault, im inclined to think this menhera even pushed kson to join vshojo in the first place

[Anonymous No.]

>>65530474
I don't really believe Kson had nothing to do with it either, but
>>it's literally impossible to join vshojo without someone inside getting you in
*unless you're a ex-holomen

[Anonymous No.]

>>65530720
>>65530474
>spend a year weaving a retarded rrat about kson being a recruiter, poacher, manager or owner of vshojoJP
>um no i'm not, i'm just a member
>WTF LYING WHORE KEKSON AKWHADJASDKAIWSD DO NOT REDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEM

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
Even if that is true (probably isn't), why say it now? Damage control? Fuck off... People will see this as avoidance of responsibility. You knew this girl is a ultra menhera and now that she's self-destructing more than ever you just wash your hands? Okay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65530826
Are you actually this retarded or are you just pretending?

[Anonymous No.]

Kson says she and Nazuna were not acquainted until the vshojo event.
However, many of their interactions remain on Twitter, including that she invites Nazuna out to dinner in response to her depressed tweets.

I have no doubt in my mind that Elon Musk lied.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65530919
i would like to ask you number/bvtmfags the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>65530894
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1544080640882069504

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519822
They are by not letting her stream on youtube
Cons: none by the way

[Anonymous No.]

>>65530981
>number/bvtmfags
You won’t believe it but i am not either of these things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65530894
The problem is that she isn't self-destructing. She's literally leaving to voice act in an anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65531298
I think by self destruct he means Mike deciding to slap Henya on her way out for no apparent reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>65529107
>Kson and Rushia were communicating with each other after her termination.
Mutual follows around March with a public interaction. Kson also confirms on stream around that point that she wants to collab with Mikeneko.
Also going off of the way Nazuna talked about VShojo in her debut stream, she knew next to nothing about the company. Meanwhile Kson was friends with Melody at that point for a while

[Anonymous No.]

>>65531298
Basically Mikeneko looks to be a lot more successful than Nazuna and that's despite Voice Ore being about 1/20th the size of VShojo
It did always feel like Nazuna was the unfavourite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65530826
>um no i'm not, i'm just a member
The members are literally vshojo's recruiters

[Anonymous No.]

>>65531416
You‘re too idiotic to try to reason with

[Anonymous No.]

>>65531368
Did she do anything so extreme that it would be self-destructive? I only saw the one tweet about the collab invite from August.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65531536
We know that Melody brought in multiple talents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65531560
That's what that anon is seething about, kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>65524007
Dang

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
She really is the Lucifer of vtubing

[Anonymous No.]

>>65531626
Nazuna was asking for new JP members to collab with for months before Henya even joined. They finally got a new JP member and Nazuna got ghosted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
What a bald-faced lie. Streamers can get away with anything, apparently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65532066
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1544080640882069504

[Anonymous No.]

>>65530474
>it's literally impossible to join vshojo without someone inside getting you in
Hey they held auditions, you know!

[Anonymous No.]

>>65532066
She literally has been saying this from the very beginning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65528972
>>65530068
>No arguments
>Just frothing at the mouth in tribalism.

Definitely pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

>>65524007
Uh oh

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519227
so that means that the competitor has more PROS then

[Anonymous No.]

>>65530240
>Why did no one call her out?
nigga you clearly havent been there during that time

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
Why did she feel the need to address this? Kson is like if Trump was a woman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65536530
because jp holofans were using that to attack nazuna, saying nazuna's ungrateful and whatnot

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519006
I think Henya is the only truly bilingual chuuba in the game. She’s the kind of bilingual where she effortlessly code switches from one to the other.

[Anonymous No.]

>I wasn't the one who invited Nauna to VSHOJO! Really!
Plausible, given the character reveal trailer you both showed up in it's entirely possible that the animation was made to dramatize the new hires and drum up some interest, after all a similar thing was done for Henya with Zentreya and those two had nothing to do with each other
>I don't understand why some people think that way
....okay so she's either retarded or lying

[Anonymous No.]

>>65536616
Is this jp holofans in this room with us?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65536616
And chimps here are using it to attack kson, ngl it's funny and pathetic at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65536833
they're in the replies to the announcement

[Anonymous No.]

>>65519624
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>65536826
Eh... I guess lore animations from the same "branch" represent reality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65536616
Nobody among the Holo jp fanbase gave a fuck about Nazuna. Nobody was talking about her. That's another reason she left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65536826
Plausibility jumps out the window when they have no real way to contact mikeneko before this, she never acknowledged the existence of vshojo before this, and kind of the most important part they can’t even communicate with her. The only other options are vshojo approached Mikeneko with plans for a JP branch or Mikeneko approached them despite them having no jp auditions at the time. Both pretty much impossible but kson is known to lie

[Anonymous No.]

This is the worst lie I've ever seen in my life.
I'm just laughing at the kson defense force scrambling to make excuses for her. they must be working hard right now.
KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>65529485
>Do you really think the corpo known for only hiring other member's friends really let Kson make a nepohire
Yes, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>65537847
epic kek my fellow numberbrozzer
we will defeat kekson the western vshowhore kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>65538011
>no mention of numbers
>numberbrozzer
Why do you keep doing this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65538011
Don't you have to make up excuses for your lying whore somewhere else?
The day she lied to everyone was when she joined vshitjo. She said she would never join any corpo ever again.
That was when I lost trust with her.
Can't believe I used to send SC's to this lying bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

I wasn't going to reveal it but people meed to know. One time I saw Kson knocking out Mikeneko and dragging her to vshojo headquarters in Japan, if anyone asks, I said nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65537981
Vshojo fans are genuinely delusional. I remember them calling silver a liar after she graduated. I guess it’s only believe all their words when they’re in the company

[Anonymous No.]

>>65538320
Still waiting for the source/timestamp it was more than a year...

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
FLEE FROM ME FOR I NEVER KNEW THEE

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518393
There is 0 chance Mike even knew what VShojo was unless Kson was spoonfeeding her info and selling it up in the first place. Kson sold her on it and convinced her to join and is walking it all back now because it ruined her image as a genius of vtubing and she wants to salvage it. Her relationship with Mike is down the toilet but she really only ever cared about the money anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

What will mike do if her seiyuu career flops?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65518573
>anxious schizo cat
>self-important narcissistic asshole
>chronically insecure drama magnet
>queen of menhera

[Anonymous No.]

The jp management just told Nazuna that kson also joins it when headhunting her. It would make sense.

[Anonymous No.]

Gunnrun please, hire few jop chuubas right after naxuna left, it's gonna be funny af

[Anonymous No.]

>>65524007
That would literally be a personal reason, retard.
But I'll rather believe in the kettle than the menhera who lied to her fans, to Cover and pretty much everyone else she interacted with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65537847
She really said the truth

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539126
Sadly this place is not for reasonable human beings, thus this thread exists

[Anonymous No.]

>>65536720
Kson can do it, too, but her audience is much larger in JP than internationally that she only does it with Henya, mainly to help her communicate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65524007
This is the very definition of personal
It's also definitely not Henya's fault given she was saying for months how much she wanted to collab with Nazuna

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539126
>>65539296
This doesn't answer shit.
How does Nazuna, who doesn't know a lick of English, join an ENGLISH COMPANY which is not even known in Japan?
How does she even know what vshojo is without kson telling her?
Are you guys really that gullible?

[Anonymous No.]

If this is true, why was she telling Henya about plans to expand the VShojo JP branch with the JP CEO at the Anime Expo 2023 panel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65531783
She was asking for monolingual JPs because she felt isolated. One of the most startling things she revealed is that all of the VShojo chats are in English so she couldn't understand a word anyone was saying.
Henya streams at times that are awful for JP and mostly speaks English. Nazuna actually asked her at one point which language was her first language. Nazuna is terrified of joining any group collab because 80% of the participants speak a language she can't understand and she can't be entertaining with broken English.
Also on top of that, apparently Henya wasn't even marketed as "JP", she was supposedly a hybrid between both branches. Or that idea was dropped. It's so muddled all over and it's clear VShojo have no idea what to do regarding JP Vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539593
vshojojp existed before they joined
kson met the vshojojp staff because some of them are connected to mogra, where she had her pop-up store

>>65539631
she did not? she asked the ceo about when there will be new members

[Anonymous No.]

>>65528740
FlaVR was just AI-generated trash

VNUS was an actual, proper debut complete with relevant social media accounts and a separate Twitch stream
The characters were actual Live2D models (albeit intentionally shitty)
And the entire thing was a satire on vtuber corps
Pippa wishes she had the talent and drive Nyan does

[Anonymous No.]

>>65520357
Nta but Froot and haruka both (and kuro to a certain extent) ruin the company. Froot is a whore who constantly has to remind people just how "attractive" her fleshy self is after burying her face in 20 pounds of makeup.
Haruka is genuinely annoying but relatively harmless
Kuro is annoying

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539731
It was funny that Kson basically leaked/hinted at Nazuna getting her 3D model on that stream and then the model stream happened and Nazuna barely hyped it up because she was 100% done mentally with VShojo at that point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539681
So VShojo's bad management and communication led to a talent not renewing their contract? Damn, they must be a black company.

[Anonymous No.]

Is KSON even going to bother with this vtuber shit for much longer? She seems more interested in her JAV friends she made from the Yakuza gig now and I don’t blame her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539593
She may know about Vshojo from Kson but can you hate her for this?

She just want to help Mike in darkest time of her life by give her a chance for survive for 2 years. Kson cherishs freedom person and she lets Mike choose her own fate.

Kson really do nothing wrong here

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539811
If I'm being honest her 3d looked like shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539902
That completely contradicts her narrative. So she's lying?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539902
Its okay to help other people. But why lie about it?
She could've just stay silent about it.
Now I don't trust anything she says anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539967
Nothing contradicts her but only /vt/ narratives

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539967
>>65540014
>some retard says some dumb bs on vee tee
>this means kson is lying because what kson said goes against what the retard said
what

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540079
>one retard on vee tee says shes not lying
>that means shes not lying
I hope you realize you are being as retarded as your oshi right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540050
Either she led to Nazuna joining VShojo or she didn't. This isn't quantum physics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539731
>vshojojp existed before they joined
What are you smoking? I was literally there where they announced vshojo JP.
VshojoJP exists because of these 2

[Anonymous No.]

You know nothing anons, mike joining vshojo was a calculated move, it helped her clean her stained slate, she got hired to a company, making her more valuable for japs who are anal about "workers past" and hers was pretty shitty. After vshojo played their role she fucked off to do the shit she literally made during her nazuna time on mike.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65537812
>they have no real way to contact mikeneko before this
... Business email?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540014
She tell the truth that Nazuna choose her own fate and she just silence sitting await for new comer or farewell to friend.

She stays true to herself.
She will never rob "FREEDOM" from anyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539832
4 talents
Also I don't think they're a black company. They're just pantsu on head incompetent. I'm also of the belief they play favourites but I imagine they're not the only corpo guilty of that.
Like, just off the top of my head, the "VShojo only" Minecraft server and "VShojo only" Rust server both got opened up to outsiders because Mouse insisted on it. The Rust server was Nazuna's idea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539851
how long until we finally get the kson jav?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540168
Nazuna chose her own fate for survival and nothing wrong with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540175
loutlot has worked for vshojo since the company started

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539681
Vshojo have no clue what to do in general outside of hiring orbiters and former corpos.
They've never really advertised themselves as an idol group and then they tried to hold an idol event where the talents had to be heavily autotuned because almost none of them can sing.
They haven't really prioritized stuff like nendos for existing members or new members, even big brand deals like ironsides haven't been updated since henya joined.
They hardly do events or advertise their talents outside of mouse and kson, there seems to be absolutely no structure. It's a house of cards waiting for the wrong person to come along and knock it down.

I want Vshojo to succeed because I like the idea of an American corporation with managers who are hands on and available but it's clear that gunrun is just throwing shit at the wall

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540304
She chose to join a talent agency on a different website that doesn't speak her language?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65539832
Mystic just gave them better contracts
Only Silvervale has bad blood to IM

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540448
Nazuna tweeted today that she invited Henya for a collab in August and hasn't heard back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540406
Yes and she had several good reasons about it. I also admit that was the best decision at that time

[Anonymous No.]

>>65523839
Damn, 3.6M dollars to charity? How generous, this must have been an event, any links?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540515
and she only said it now after leaving because?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540515
Henya changes all sign in Minecraft to JP for collab with Nazuna.

She just want to play Minecraft not Apex

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540555
>it was a good decision
How did you arrive to this conclusion?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540705
Logic and understand JP culture.
Let we rewind time to 2 years ago.

>> Jp audiences hate her
>> Only EOP and Kaigainikki stand with her sides.
>> No JP Vtuber company will accept her because of drama with mfmf.
>> run out of money.
>> no other revenue source.
>> no VA work will hire her at that time because she is too hot topic.
>> She was totally death in JP working culture.
>> Only AV job and porn industry await for her.

Kson really helps her in the darkest time.
She prevent the worst situation for Mike.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540689
Because Henya responded to Nazuna's departure saying that she wanted to collab with her before she left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65540689
This is the 3rd or 4th time she's implied it. VShojo fans don't know Japanese and/or don't watch Mikeneko so they missed it each time.

[Anonymous No.]

I think most of you have the wrong idea what VShojo is as a company. They aren’t and don’t pretend to be a talent agency. They are just a collection of vtubers and the company itself basically provides tech support and a basic support system. There is no talent management layer here and VShojo doesn’t manage IP which is the big difference between them and most of the other true agencies.
Simple fact is this structure is also going to allow people to come and go more freely and it’s going to continue to happen. Says nothing about VShojo as a whole since they aren’t even in the business of owning their talents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65541056
Why couldn't she just go indie on YouTube?

[Anonymous No.]

>>65541056
I wish Mike had just held on and gotten into a small Vtuber corporation instead of joining VShojo.
Also, do you know the absolute funniest thing? She was told that joining VShojo would help her get closer to her kaigai, and then after she joins, she checked her Fanbox members and they actually shrunk (probably mostly/all kaigai)
It was one of the first clues that what she had been promised was a load of shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65541081
We watch Henya, Kson and Mikeneko.

T. Shinentai

[Anonymous No.]

>>65541176
It was said outright in August, hinted at strongly in September, said outright in December and now Tweeted publicly. 4 times
/vsj/ was treating it like a rrat until now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>65541161
>> JP audiences will anti her to death.
>> She can't because of no money. Even she admit that muchm
>> She can't commission to artist and rigger who have connection with Holoive.
>> She survive because of joining Vshojo at that time.
>> Because she want Kaigainikkis helps her survive. They are only hope left.

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>>65541249
who do I believe, the kettle who collabs with everyone or the mental deficient?

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>>65541394
Do JP people not know how to use Google?

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>>65541530
Sorry, We use Yahoo here more than Google

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>>65541598
So Yahoo completely censors any correlations between Rushia/Mikeneko and Nazuna?

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>>65541173
And she is now.
Follow her then.

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>>65541685
Yes in some extent degree because of legal risking.

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>>65541819
https://search.yahoo.co.jp/search?p=mikeneko+nazuna&x=wrt&aq=-1&ai=4d006c10-2bd7-44b1-afb4-d47d712433a7&ts=5071&iau=0&clone=&ei=UTF-8&fr=top_smf

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>>65537812
>kson is known to lie
Kys

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>>65541062
no, Henya always said she wanted to collab with nazuna whenever someone brought her up. there's also the case of that minecraft collab that didn't happen, after which Henya (and VShojo altogether) was ghosted by mike.
>>65541081
>she's implied it.
why do cray-crays always expect everyone else to be mind readers?
>so they missed it each time.
or, we just don't believe her side of the story.
>>65541394
so now michael betrayed yet another part of her fanbase and burned another bridge. gg
>>65541495
*mentally deficient
from one ESL to another

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>>65541173
the real issue wasn't vshojo but whatever stopped her from streaming on youtube.

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>>65541970
>after which Henya (and VShojo altogether) was ghosted by mike
Kson and Mike did a collab, so this sounds like fan-fic.

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>>65542087
funny how Kson was the only one who managed to talk to her then. maybe Henya getting outright blocked isn't such an outlandish rrat after all (despite that anon not being able to provide proof)

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>>65541912
And? I said some extent degree.

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>>65542248
>not outlandish
>despite that anon being able to provide proof
Sounds like fan-fic to me.

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>>65542449
I mean, it's not impossible, but then again, Henya isn't the type who wouldn't jump at the chance to collab with someone. back in her PL some anons actually kept track who she collab'd with and it was around 150 different streamers.
also, this isn't the first time we see mike pulling this stunt, and probably won't be the last.

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>>65542816
Except Mike has been hinting at the same thing for months.

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>>65539681
>She was asking for monolingual JPs because she felt isolated. One of the most startling things she revealed is that all of the VShojo chats are in English so she couldn't understand a word anyone was saying.
They have a JP branch but VShojo is a EN vtuber company. Henya understood that but Nazuna didn't realize that until later. I doubt they are going anywhere with the JP branch when they can't offer any marketing benefit compared to vtuber competitors like Nijisanji.

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TALENT.
FREEDOM.

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>>65542967
>hinting
and as I said, no one is a mind reader. maybe mike should've actually responded to Henya instead of going full cray-cray as usual and get mad at things that only exist in her head?

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>>65542816
show me the other times she did this then henyafag

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>>65543079
She is the one who has been saying that she wasn't getting a response to her invitation.

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>>65543026
She realizes and she want money from EN market because she waa dead in JP market from termination.

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>>65518393
after all this time why is she suddenly making this clarification?

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>>65543349
She made it but very early but it'a not fit in /vt/ rrat.

Proof : picture above

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>>65543274
Somehow, she was dead in the water in JP and joined VShojo to hide from JP, but she's now leaving VShojo to become a JP VA.

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>>65518393
you should have stayed in hololive kson

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>>65543186
when she ceased to be Rushia, or when she betrayed her unicorns (who pay her bills) half a dozen times, etc.
>>65543243
and why didn't she use the nazuna account? Henya streams so fucking much you can't expect her to keep up with every vtuber in her spare time.

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>>65543349
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1544080640882069504
she did literally the first day

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>>65541125
I was perhaps under the mistaken impression that everyone knew VShojo is mostly GunRun's pet project with Melody. I think GunRun just gets to do the wacky tech shit he wants in peace while the chuuba side builds its own support and management system.

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>>65543611
>and why didn't she use the nazuna account? Henya streams so fucking much you can't expect her to keep up with every vtuber in her spare time.
It's common knowledge to anyone even adjacent to Hololive and VShojo. How are you assuming that Henya didn't know Nazuna was Mikeneko?

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>>65544026
it's common knowledge to terminally online fucks like we are, not her.

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>>65544130
This is basic knowledge about one of her two coworkers in the same branch.

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>>65544180
also, you're talking about the girl who's almost allergic to past life references and now you get autobanned if you use the P-word in chat. I can't exactly fault her for blocking out any past life info, not just her own.

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>>65544525
This is insane cope, since this already assumes that Nazuna only asked her to collab as Mikeneko (all without going through any internal lines of communication).

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>>65544668
>since this already assumes that Nazuna only asked her to collab as Mikeneko
of course we can assume that, because Henya was waiting for nazuna to return after her "hiatus". I can 100% believe she has no idea about the mikeneko persona.

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>>65544872
This isn't about you "100% believing" something. It's about that thing being correct, and it is an outlandish claim with no evidence.

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>>65544130
I'd appreciate if you were to stop infantilizing Henya, as much of a social cripple she might be and does it to herself, she's a grown up woman. To expect that vtubers don't know about her coworkers "past lives", more so her, the cave dweller, is pretty hard to believe.

It's more believable that she pretends not to acknowledge it out of "respect" just like VOMS.

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>>65544956
and you won't get a satisfying answer from either party, especially with Japan's slander laws.
>>65545033
>not to acknowledge it out of "respect"
so you didn't see her near panic attack on the anniversary VRchat stream upon seeing a bunch of Pikamees, got it.

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it's very believable that nazuna wanted to collab

that's why she ran away when they met in minecraft

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>>65545160
I didn't indeed, what was that? But still, "respect", hence the quotes.

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>>65545160
>and you won't get a satisfying answer from either party, especially with Japan's slander laws.
There is a satisfying answer that currently stands up to what evidence we have now. That answer might change as we find out more, but you believing your fan-fic, that makes assumptions devoid of evidence, doesn't make it a contender.

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>>65544668
nazuna literally said she invited someone to collab as mike

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>>65545356
they visited Kson's bar world among others, with a lot of Pika-related stuff littered all over a shop. she even held her last vrchat stream before graduation (and rebranding) there. I instantly recognized what was wrong because I watched that stream, too.
>>65545412
we don't have any objective evidence. we ONLY have michael's words, and you believe them, while I don't.

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>>65545508
She has done collabs with Kson and Giri as Mike. Unless that someone is confirmed to be Henya, there is a good chance that it's not her.

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>>65539924
It's because it was prerecorded and she streamed it on her shitty laptop and it chugged hard in whatever video player she was using tanking the fps. They actually showed her debut at TGS (that company had a booth there) and it was smooth as butter lol

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>>65545514
It's obvious that you don't believe them. You keep making up absurd reasons why they can't even be partially true.

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>>65520357
go fuck yourself, you know exactly why no real vshojofan likes her

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>>65545962
make a thread once you have objective evidence shown on screen, not just michael's word. yes, you're correct, I don't believe her, she has to prove what she says.
>inb4
Henya isn't a proven pathological liar, michael is.
/thread on my part

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>>65546111
No, we don't. For the most part, all the hate I've been seeing is from mentally ill rightoids.

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>>65518723
1. JP twitch audience is only apexfag zoomers
2. Nazuna no longer had a better contract with twitch after it was annulled when the platform fucked over all special creator contracts
3. Nazuna had zero idea about projekt melody being a camwhore and talked about not being informed what kind of company vshojo is

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>>65520788
no you braindead idiot, he's showing what kson said when vei, nyanners and silvervale left

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>>65546458
>July 5, 2022

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>>65530474
kson has done so much damage to her image it's insane, the chinese didn't have to do anything

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>>65546530
making mentally ill holotribalfags seethe is not damage

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>>65539736
KEK. okay this bait is epic

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>>65518393
Honestly, no I don't.

Everyone knows you roped her in after she got herself fired from Holo, why lie about it?

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>>65546222
Froot has done nothing but cause drama for gunrun since day fucking one, she's vshojo's Rushia

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>>65546604
every retard who believes in delusions knows it. that's different from reality though.

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>>65546585
>making mentally ill holotribalfags seethe is not damage
The projection here is wild, take a step back for a moment

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>>65546756
oh right i also forgot that she makes nijitribalfags seethe too, and that doesn't matter either.

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>>65546812
Bro are you just false flagging? if you are you are doing a terrible job, you look like a vshojo anti from a mile away

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>>65546869
>falseflag
don't you have something to count, numberfag?

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>>65546615
No, she isn't. Sounds like you're trying to pull one past me.

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>>65521446
Henya grew a lot debuting EN because of the wizard game drama. That might count as magic.