/asp/ - Aspiring Vtuber and Startup

[Anonymous No.]

What is /asp/?
A thread where we discuss our vtuber aspirations! Whether it's agency-based or independent, let's help each other grow and make it as entertainers. Indies are welcome to join, but shill responsibly. Share what knowledge, insights, what works/doesn't work for you. Remember to do your research before providing personally identifying information to companies online!

FAQ:
Do I need an expensive, fully rigged Live2D model to be a vtuber?
No! You can always start out as a pngtuber!

Where can I learn how to Live2D rig avatars?
Check out Brian Tsui's (of Iron Vertex) YouTube channel!

Where can I find artists/riggers?
Skeb.jp, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, etc.

Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

Twitch or Youtube?
Multistream to both.

RESOURCES:
General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/2mkc8x9P
Stay grounded, stay hopeful. Don't kill yourself yet.

Previous thread: >>6514160

[Anonymous No.]

What's something that made you smile while streaming this week, /asp/? Tell me about a fun moment you had on stream!

[Anonymous No.]

I've gotten two pieces of fanart this week which is incredible feeling.

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>>6551695
I have a !frog command that spams the OSFrog emote, to use whenever anyone sees a frog or frog-like thing on stream.

Chat actually did it this week, so I'm not just streaming to bots and my brother (who mutes the tab)

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>>6551695
I put in a couple of YTP sound alerts in my redeems that make me laugh anytime someone uses them.

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How do you get text wrapping for the chatbox on Streamelements?

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>>6551756
That is absolutely based. I'm gonna feel like I made it if I get even a single piece of fanart.

>>6551695
Well a bunch of people complimented my voice, with one girl saying she liked how soothing it was, which honestly made me blush.

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>>6551695
Not my stream but joined a friends' one and we talked stuff and kept 25 people hooked

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>>6552581
resize the source window in browser/chatterino to force it to wrap

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>>6551756
That absolutely rules! Congrats, anon! I can't imagine how good that must feel.

[Anonymous No.]

Going to be running the penultimate test stream this week, hope you'll join me for more wild flailing in VR!
https://twitch.tv/pommemade

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>>6554266
Have you not thought about using a 3d model? I can't name any specifics but there are vrprograms that have green screens you can overlay so people see your avatar's body movements on the bottom corner as you play vr games.

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>>6554432
I have actually! That's something I'd like to implement in the future

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>>6554432
That would certainly make something physical like FitXR more fun to watch, but I'm enjoying your commentary while you play, too.

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Thank you all once again for coming to my stream! As always critiques, criticisms, and general grievances are welcomed.
>>6555899
Wow, that's very kind of you to say! I'll admit, my commentart is severely lacking compared to a lot of the other vtubers in this thread. But I'm glad you find it enjoyable! I'll try to become a better zatsudan slinger for you all!

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So any anon wants o report views on their audition?

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>>6558943
You shouldn't take long breaks during stream you tend to lose viewers that way.

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>>6559649
Noted, I know that's something I struggle with due to the nature of the games I stream. In the future I'm going to diversify my catalog to include VR games that are much less strenuous for me. It's only limited right now due to the tight nature of this week's streaming schedule. I'll work to improve upon it next time though.

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>>6559756
Try to do talk shows during breaks to keep people entertained. It seemed like you just left the stream completely.

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>>6559479
None yet, I submitted quite late though. If any anons do have views it might be useful to say when you submitted.

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>>6559821
I did, yeah, to get some water. Sorry about that. Usually I have something near me to drink but I forgot to get it this stream.

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>>6559905
I want to believe they go in order, but who knows. I was going to say they will download the video to avoid giving views right away, but then I realized just clicking on it does that.

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anyone have examples of deeper voiced anime guys in dubs that i can try and emulate? i know a lot of fujos swoon over Christian Bale's performance as Howl from Howl's Moving Castle. any others?

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Don't forget to feed the chickens

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>>6559975
Honestly it's a mystery. I think that they're going to immediately filter based on whether you've streamed before, and then probably based on followers (even though I hope they don't), but other than that I have no idea.

[Anonymous No.]

It's okay to feel sad sometimes. I feel sad today for some reason. I'm going to play some golf to feel better.

https://www.youtube.com/illreviewanything
https://www.twitch.tv/illreviewanything

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>>6560175
Norio Wakamoto, Kenjiro Tsuda.

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>>6560298
In dubs. I was about to recommend both, but he's a dubsfag.

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>>6560315
>I was about to recommend both
An anon of wealth and discernment.

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>>6560298
yeah, there's no way i'm gonna learn any pacing and inflection from japanese VAs

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Did you feed the chickens today /asp/ies?
>>6560207
Thank you for your service anon

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>>6560349
I hate English VAs so I can't really give you advice, anon. I'd say just go with Howl Bale.
>>6560905
I'm getting ready for it, senpai.

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>>6560905
I'm new and stupid, how do I do this?

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>>6562588
Post your twitch link and I will guide you young chuuba

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>>6563171
that's breaking containment

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>>6563171
I only set up my twitch today, but have been streaming on YouTube. I just set up multistreaming in OBS so I'll be doing both going forward.

https://twitch.tv/profbloomvtuber
https://youtube.com/channel/UC32cEmDnlh9UQfu_TWHrbGg

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>>6563983
breaking containment is when you talk about 4chan outside of 4chan, not when you post your link on a thread

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>>6564090
Go to the channel you just got gifted a sub to and type "snack" and one of their emotes!
Your concept is fascinating and pretty educational on a type of music most people are decently ignorant about. I wouldn't really recommend multistreaming to anyone since it historically hurts more than it helps when you don't focus on a single audience. Take a look at Meat, R&C, and Feef for examples of this and what happened when they chose one platform after. Twitch is traditionally the better platform for starting from 0 but your singing is especially good for shorter edited youtube videos after the stream is over. Since your content revolves entirely around your voice I would say the biggest piece of your budget should go to improving your mic! You have a nice voice and seem well trained, so let your hardware benefit you. If you haven't done Trimble reps it will only help you from here. Your content is highly niche so you will have to work hard to reach a wide audience, but since you're musician I'm sure you're already familiar with that. Just keep getting more experience in and you'll learn how to appeal what you want to do to viewers, mostly you'll need a lot of social media legwork and invite people to listen to live music instead of fully relying on the algo to push you. Ganbare young chuuba, feed the chickens everyday for a clear mind

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>>6564740
Thank you very much! Besides barbershop, I'll be doing classical as well (which is what I'm actually trained for, barbershop is just for fun) and reading streams. I'll do gaming as well, but don't plan to make that the focus of my channel.

Truthfully I chose YouTube to start because I'm simply more familiar with it than I am with Twitch. I'll get to know them both better as I go, though as you pointed out, YouTube is helpful for posting songs into a playlist.

I will gladly feed these chickens daily. Thank you!

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>>6560905
I'll bite. Can I be a chicken feeder?
https://www.twitch.tv/misnina

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I'm just going to do a short dance stream for the next hour. please give me critiques on how to move forward with my content
https://www.twitch.tv/cuteanimeboyvr

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>>6565329
i stopped by for a bit to watch and your dancing is really nice! I think my biggest gripe is that your body part clips through the model fairly regularly which looks awkward; this was very noticeable during moves where you're down on the floor with your legs
i know that there's a lot of limitations to 3D so i don't know if just getting like better trackers or something would remedy it but the dancing itself is really good
one thing that i could think of is the when you get affiliate to add channel point redeems to affect your dancing stage maybe? you're mostly silent during the dance so having some way for the audience to interact with you would be cool

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Had a really interesting stream today at the very least. Either that or some of the viewers are just fucking with me.

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>>6566038
How do you mean?

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>>6565329
I agree with >>6565725 in whole. I think you could get popular, especially if you include facial expressions and mouthing along to lyrics in your music. Look at oicolatcho and ejiejidayo, for example. Cute models, but the big selling point is seeing how much they're enjoying themselves. You got the moves, though!

[Anonymous No.]

Hello /asp/ it's been a long time. I think I'm finally happy with where I am. I've stopped being jealous of the new, agency vtubers that are coming out, and I can finally enjoy others' content again.
I know now that my fanbase is a unique one, and I don't have to "be" like a vtuber to keep them around. All I have to be is myself and do what I think is fun ( which is to make art, music and skits). No agency or "large number" or even money will ever be able to give me the same feeling of community.

Sorry for this weird vague post. I just really wanted somewhere to let this out.

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>>6566057
I was doing Tarot and someone asked me to ask the cards what happened to his cat that died when he split with his ex. I told him the impression I got, and he started asking about how to do curses. I'd want to assume this guy was joking, but previously I've had people take the witch avatar seriously and assume I could actually help them with wiccan/witchcraft spells.

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>>6566375
you really just attract the crazies with your tarot streams, huh

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>>6566415
I want to assume this person was joking. It'd be one thing if it was people who agreed with all the joking uncle ted posting I do, but instead it's people who want help with "magick."

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>>6566375
Well that's a hell of a thing

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>>6566375
Be careful not accidentally summoning demons or some shit because some schizo online lost an internet argument,

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As far as I know, my content hasn't changed and I've only gotten better at talking and interacting with folks
I don't play debuff games as far as I'm aware, a lot of variety
I try not to get caught up with numbers but it does make me worry I'm doing something wrong when my incoming followership goes down 70%

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>>6567380
because youtube

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>>6567380
How's your networking and self advertising compared to a few months ago?

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>>6567484
Is twitch the same? Because this is twitch statistics

>>6567580
I post on Twitter more often now and get slightly more engagement than I did back then. Have maintained all of my friends since the beginning pretty much, even made an informal group for us, although I have the highest follower base ("networking" is such a cold term...)
I suppose I haven't dragged anyone new into the group recently, so that could be it?

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>>6565725
>>6566243
Thanks for the advice. I feel like I'm trying to achieve something completely different. I'm trying to dance competitively in this new medium so there is this artistic passion to it. I have the chance to get affiliate because a big streamer raided me once but I don't think there's a point is doing so this way considering I can't keep any viewers. I also worry that taking money would corrupt my art but I think that's probably just me being stubborn. Right now I think my biggest problem is viewer retention and viewer interaction which probably goes hand in hand. I wonder how I would achieve viewer interactions to a comfortable level for me because a part of me don't want it to interrupt my dance but at the same time I know that without viewer interactions they would not stay.

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>>6567744
if you're worried about accepting money in order to get stuff like redeems, have you considered donating all the money you make to an organization?

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>>6567711
Yeah, maybe try pushing your bounds a bit more. Can't hurt to try, I'd assume.

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>>6567777
Yes I have. That's one part. Another part wonders if I need to feel obligated to have an obnoxious pop up on stream when ever someone follow/donate/subscribe and give them a shout out scream "THANK YOU" while I am dancing because I'm not sure if I want that for the sake of money. The best compromise I can think of is use an overlay and have the popup happen somewhere in the overlay and do the shoutout between songs. The next problem would be redeems and what redeems would I be comfortable with such that it doesn't interrupt my performance but allows viewer interactions.

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>>6551190
I streamed! I did it! I PNG'd it up for 2 hours, and worked on my art. I had three people watching a one point and two of them chatted with me!

Maybe I can do this anons...

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>>6568511
Nice job! Keep doing your best and success may find you.

[Anonymous No.]

Not to menhera, but starting from 0 is really demoralizing. It's not so much the streaming because I can just turn off view count, but it's posting around on twitter and not getting much traction from it. I'm trying not to obsess over numbers but it's pretty difficult to stay positive.

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>>6568743
Find a small vtuber who wants to collab and do something.

/asp/s strong together

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>>6568743
I started back in February from 0 and I do agree that it can be demoralizing, especially if you don't click with other chuubas early on. When I started, I was able to talk to a couple of chuubas around my size if not a little bigger or smaller and they would reply to my posts consistently.
I used to do those kinds of "reply for x" kinds of posts with stuff like tarot readings or other silly things and that got people to notice me a little bit
Visiting /wvt/ and talking with a lot of the chuubas there also helped a lot once I started doing that; a lot of people there are very friendly and it feels a lot easier to talk with them imo
Don't give up though! Sometimes you'll have slow days or weeks, but sometimes you'll make a tweet that pops off a little bit and while followers on Twitter don't really translate to viewers, it's always nice to get a little notice

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How did /asp/ies fill in the self PR section of the Nijisanji app?

[Anonymous No.]

am i the only one that gets really nervous and anxious trying to commission a model from an artist on twitter. what should i have prepared when i ask if they can take my commission. ive googled this question a lot and have found 0 helpful resources which makes me feel like this is a complete me problem.

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>>6570243
from last thread

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>>6570266
I've seen some use a stick figure and then use picture examples of what kind of clothing/hair/accessories they want. I had 3 OCs made but I mostly just give the artist creative freedom and I don't change a thing (I guess I'm just easy to please)

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>>6565058
did you sort out your mic issues?

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>>6570243
I put together a gSheet presentation for mine and my artist was thrilled

Slide 1, short paragraph about the character concept with a focus on themes and 'branding'
Slide 2, similar characters with a similar/ideal aesthetic (price is right rules)
Slide 3, specific reference or personal sketches about accessories, pets, etc

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>>6570243
Watch this vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBZP12iuSQA

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>>6570243
When I've commissioned, I've had a few things:
- a .txt document on the lore/background of the character. This is in as plain English as possible, because I've found Filipino artists tend to be better prices, but their English is ESL
- a .txt explaining what I'm after, and what I want from each of...
- MSPaint sketch of the poses I want
- Quite a few sample pieces. Name them each something unique, not hbzdbdkjb1
=> Any specific clothing you're after, such as armour, or robes, find an example
=> Specific tones (such as 'I want to look grubby', or 'I want to look like a kid's cartoon character')
=> If you can pull together a (shitty) composite, then it might be worth considering. Just to give them a better idea

Alternatively, a very brief overview, and then "But you're the artist, just make it look [cool]"

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>>6559479
i don't know if this helps but my audition from a while back for hololive got a few views
not sure if it was because of charisma or all the other info you had to add to the form
i even used an anime boy from google for the thumbnail lol
i'm gonna try to work on more of an animatic type of video for nijisanji this time but drawing isn't really my strong suit
but i've got all the wasteful time in the world to make the deadline!
so wish me luck and i hope i could help your future endeavors anon

[Anonymous No.]

Why the fuck does pressing the go live button give me so much anxiety

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>>6573385
its okay anon give me the button and I'll press it for you

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>>6560905
I do it every night before I head to bed so that the I can fall asleep with a clear conscious, plus it helps that because of timezones it means it's right around their lunch time

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>>6568743

Ironmouse spent her first year streaming to 1-3 people, didn't start growing until her second year, and started 2020 streaming to 30 viewers. Imagine if she went menhera and quit during year 1 when she was a literal who

[Anonymous No.]

Anybody know this handsome skeleton?

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>>6575349
Go to bed, Jones

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>>6575487
I am not Jones, I am not has handsome and tall as him.

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>>6569840
Bumping this

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>>6568743
The only thing I hate is there's nothing to talk to. I'm literally just talking to myself making noises pointlessly on the off chance someone happens to open the stream at that second.

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>>6574913
That's honestly not really true. She streamed a handful of times in 2018 just sporadically towards the end. In 2019 she basically had 15+ a majority of the year, probably due to being part of some community which is always good for streaming since you've got a good base. From then on she had 20+ viewers.

It's likely she was apart of some communities, maybe singing or voice acting ones that got a lot of people watching her from the start, but to say she was just a 2-view on her grind for a year+ is disingenuous.

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>>6576190

She started streaming in 2017

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>>6559479
Not yet! With the new nijiEN debut though I reckon they’ll be really slow. I wouldn’t expect anything until after they’ve debuted.

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>>6576221
Not sure why, but I don't see a single piece of data for her pre-2018 like I can find for others

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>>6576734
She became a vtuber in 2018. Debating the origins of ironmouse is kinda pointless, I guess. Either you have the guts(stupidity) to grind through the 1 viewer phase, or you don't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgG4oDinIDE

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>>6572800
I'm assuming you're applying for males since the female deadline closed, which makes it interesting then that your Holo application got views, I wonder if they really were looking for possible holostars

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>>6576927
I'm talking data as in Twitch data. API data gathered from multiple sites. There's, somehow, zero for her pre-2018 whereas every single streamer I know who started before 2018 have it, which is why it's debatable.

[Anonymous No.]

Perhaps a really stupid question, but I figured /asp/ies would be best placed to advise.

I'm currently streaming using a png. Things are going alright, but I've seen a few mutuals (mostly female) skyrocket in the same time. Most are artists, or bought an expensive model and rig.

I could currently afford a cheap model and rig, either L2D or vroid. But it would certainly be a lower-tier one.

Would it be better to stay as png until I can afford a mid/high level model, or just gradually evolve over time as I have the cash?

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>>6577317
Yeah but in the linked video she outright states that she started streaming in 2017 to 1-5 viewers... Do you think she's lying?

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>>6577390
I don't, but i'm sure she's mistaken. I've looked up a dozen different people with and without name changes from before 2018 and everyone shows up but her. You can check yourself.

https://sullygnome.com/channel/ironmouse/
https://twitchtracker.com/ironmouse/statistics

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>>6577375
Dude just make your own vroid. It's not hard to do vroid and doing it yourself puts more soul into it.

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>>6577489
fucking yikes dude, you're not gonna make it

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>>6577523
I'm not worried about making it, I'm doing fine with my donos/viewership I just never bought the "I grinded from 1 viewer" thing and decided to check. I know it's nice to have a fairy tale story to believe but the numbers don't lie

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>>6577489
Sullygnome doesn’t record less than 5 viewers though

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>>6577577
Sure it does, check the best example of a 2view

https://sullygnome.com/channel/zylpherenuis

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>>6577567
>I grinded from 1 viewer
She had both parents lurking in chat to boost numbers, so never technically had the 1 viewer problem.

Actually, do extra viewers on the same router count? My sister watches my streams, but she's staying with me for now, so I don't know if she'll actually boost my figures.

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>>6577375
are you a girl? are you an artist? what is your content? do you stream consistently? did your stream stagnate? do you all start streaming at the same time?

Don't cheap out on your model.

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>>6577631
There’s a life hack where you can use your browser, phone, and laptop with a different account to get yourself to 3 views.

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>>6577729
sorry, I meant *did you all start your streaming career at the same time

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>>6577631
Her lowest recorded viewership during her first streams is 10+. Like I said, she was probably part of online communities that watched her as well.

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Currently I have about 2k subs on youtube with streaming on there but it has been a slow grind and average about 20-30 viewers which is quite nice. Most of the vtubers I have networked with are on twitch. Would it be beneficial to switch? Purely based on something like raids and shoutouts? Or should I just stick with Youtube

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>>6578112
i think so, just make it a slow transition and be sure to inform your viewers and let them know your content will still be uploaded to youtube

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>>6578112
twitch is really good once you have 10 or more viewers, raids help a lot

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>>6570741
Got a better balance set up, though I'll be ordering a better mic soon. I have an omnidirectional one right now, which is great for general purpose use, but something purpose built for voice will serve better.

[Anonymous No.]

if i already have a 50+ average on youtube should i still switch to twitch.

( i have song covers so my channel discoverability isn't just limited to stream )

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>>6578774
Twitch is better for streaming, YT is better for VODs and non-live.

You /can/ multi-stream until you hit affiliate, although it's a pain to get sorted, and you'll have to turn it off if you do aff. streams.

Might be worth moving over slowly to Twitch, let people know you're doing it, and alternate for a while?

[Anonymous No.]

yo I'm bored and I want to support some indiechuubas, drop Ur Twitter and I'll draw you!! need to practice figure drawing but I need some inspiration zzz

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>>6579913
I don't even have a real design yet, but I'd be thrilled with a doodle of a barbershop quartet singer! That would really make my day, anon.

https://twitter.com/ProfBloomVtuber

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>>6579913
https://twitter.com/shanaha_vt
Recently upgraded to a vroid model, hope you have fun with it! (For full body image check my replies)

[Anonymous No.]

Am I an idiot for feeling bad for my lack of growth? I've been stuck at the same place for the last 4 months. I have regulars so I'm never bored during my streams and we have good interactions, but I wish I could see more obvious signs of growth...

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>>6579913
Fortunately it’s “incapable to say no to an offer” day.
https://twitter.com/iberocorporis

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>>6578242
>>6578310
Thank you for the input. It will also really help that people can gift subs I think. The youtube memberships aren't that popular.

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>>6580650
if you're stagnating in growth it might mean you're stagnating in content, branch out and spend a week or two thinking of something new to do
I'm only a 1-3 view who has a PNG because I'm too stupid to commission things and it takes time to figure out VRoid but I use my off time to plan things I want to do

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>>6582192
I've heard a lot of people criticizing vroid, but it sounds like it's still worth learning to use. Gonna check that out.

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>>6575349
Now THIS is shitposting. I approve.

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>>6583221
they criticize it because so many people crack it open, take the default model, change 2 things and use it
as around the back there are a number of people who are good with vroid if you need help

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>>6551695
Not streaming since I can't do it in my current living space, but I learnt how to record and edited, and just managed to finished a 1 minute intro to my planned first big video. God I hate my voice and how I keep messing up the lines, but being able to see your work slowly taking shape is really satisfying. Thank you so much for these threads, they really motivated me to finally get off my ass and start to learn shit.

[Anonymous No.]

This is the new standard in virtual content. Please post your links if you can match it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQVmHLuCnok

[Anonymous No.]

>>6575349
Ah, its that racist from Pleroma. Fuck him. Just being on Pleroma is a red flag to most people on the Fediverse. He should have had a Mastodon account instead.

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>>6584538
That's pretty incredible, honestly, as far as the tech goes. I'm not that interested in the content, but I'm extremely impressed at the quality of the end product. I thought it was just an animated video until I clicked through to the previous video showing the various motion capture rigs being used.

[Anonymous No.]

Good free video editing software that can do fun effects and subtitles like you'd see from the decent vtuber clippers? Screen shake, filters, overlaying images, etc.

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>>6585633
i think the one most anons recommend is Davinci Resolve

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>>6585633
I know DaVinci Resolve and Lightworks are two big ones. Having played around with Lightworks a little myself there's definitely a bit of a learning curve to it, I assume Resolve is a bit more traditional.

[Anonymous No.]

Any of you doing programming? I'll watch

[Anonymous No.]

>>6585921
I thought about doing amateur game dev or random development work but it doesn't really suit my avatar I picked since it's nature themed
I originally wanted to do things like nature lessons about trees, plants, gardening, growing, stuff like that so that's why I chose the theme

[Anonymous No.]

>>6585991
Biology/evolution/gene simulation programming would still fit the bill, even if it is decidedly techy, I think.

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>>6585991
I don't think you need to be super strict on what your theme is. You can be an amateur game dev that loves plants, after all, and does botanical streams from time to time.

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>>6584538
Nice tech but godawful character design.

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>>6559479
No views, hoping not hard filtered since I reported 4 figures on twitch.

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>>6585991
Nature sounds nice, but also "dev geographically isolated that loves nature and programming" is almost a cliche at this point

[Anonymous No.]

>>6588864
literally everything is a cliche it seems like

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>>6588864
>literally the 4th time this has happened where I come up with a design and someone pops in to tell me it's either overdone, too close to someone else, or generic
I'm gonna lose it

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>>6589037
>someone pops in to tell me it's either overdone, too close to someone else, or generic
who cares? pick a design you like and stop using random stranger's comments as an excuse to postpone committing to a design and streaming.

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>>6589037
Go with it anyways. Being super original isn't necessarily a boon, either. Besides, it's your personalities and streams that set you apart, not your design.

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>>6589005
What do you mean by this?

>>6589037
I'm not saying it's overdone, too close to someone else or generic, I'm saying the intersection of developers and nature lovers is something real. Originality is also overrated. Originality is nice, but in addition to something else. Originality for originality's sake is not that interesting

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>>6589215
>what do you mean by this?
that there's basically no original ideas in vtuber designs anymore
everything will be "oh is that just x's gimmick but with y's?"
it's not that it's saturated but there are only so many tropes that can be followed or subverted and we're scraping the bottom here
I thought you were trying to say it's cliche and overdone like cat themed softboys or coffee shop themed baristas

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>>6588683
That's way better than me. I'm likely not getting called but if I don't this is my chance to get some experience as an indie and apply later. Sad because I really like the character I applied for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6589271
>I thought you were trying to say it's cliche and overdone like cat themed softboys or coffee shop themed baristas
What I meant by "almost cliche" is that you often encounter that kind of people in the tech industry

I think in general you should focus on being yourself instead of having a gimmick. Gimmick are going to get old fast, someone that constantly likes what he does will always be nice to watch

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>>6589271
>that there's basically no original ideas in vtuber designs anymore
there are plenty, you just never see them because they're all shit and don't have any appeal. not to mention, "original ideas in vtuber designs" are more often a turn off than a buff.

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>>6589271
>basically no original ideas in vtuber designs anymore
just 3 minutes dumpster diving
original idea =/= appealing
why would any hopeful waste a ton of their time designing something that's "original" when the avatar is the least of your concerns as a streamer?

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>>6590117
say what you will, i'd fuck that toaster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6590117
The toaster just makes me think of Brave Little Toaster, so that's cool

[Anonymous No.]

how the fuck do I get rid of my mouth slapping sounds, and yes, I am drinking water

[Anonymous No.]

>>6590794
Put a cucumber in your mouth and start sucking on it, it builds the necessary jaw muscles that help support your mouth and tongue.
You can replace the cucumber with any large cylindrical object as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6551190
Which is the most accurate concerning your stream summaries, Twitch or Streamelements?

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>>6590794
Talk with a pencil held sideways in your mouth. It'll force you to enunciate more clearly. Do that for a few minutes before your stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6578112
If you're already streaming on youtube there should be no reason why you can't multistream on twitch. BUT if you are affiliate on twitch you can't simultaneously stream on youtube at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6577317
>>6577489
Ironmouse streamed on some nobody platform before switching to twitch

[Anonymous No.]

i desperately want to stream DDR with leg cam cause that's where the Content is
I made a cosplay of myself
would it be yab to stream it waist-down

[Anonymous No.]

>>6591872
no but you have to be aware of anything that could potentially out you, any animals that could walk by, anything that could fall off to the floor or things around the room that could show something

[Anonymous No.]

>>6591904
I was gonna do a curtain type thing all around the pad to make sure nobody can see around it
Door closed so no animals
nothing's going to fall, it's all very stable

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>>6590828
>>6590794
I accidentally cured this by just using a straw when I drink water now, glad to know that's what did it.

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>>6590794
if you don't already you should have a sound gate on your mic in OBS to filter out your keyboard and other noises, just back up from the mic and take a swig then come back when you're done

[Anonymous No.]

>>6591932
What about moms spaghetti?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6592139
I didn't vomit from nerves during debut, why would I here?

[Anonymous No.]

I want to know about /asp/ies battlestations. Do you have multiple screens? Are you using a potato? Or actual battlestation? I may be getting a decent pc but will have to find a screen for it, was thinking in using laptop as a secondary one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6592841
mine

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>>6592841
I'm using a single screen with a prebuilt rig that has a 3070. Spent nearly a decade with just a notepad used strictly for school. It's a massive upgrade in my eyes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6592841
I have 2 monitors, a 2080 RTX Super so I can run pretty much any game aside form a few super intensive open world AAA games (Cyberpunk '77 for example can run decently at times but has regular framedrops). Instead of a webcam I have my iphone propped up on a stand for facetracking, and I've got just a cheap Blue Yeti mic right in front of me during streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6592841
I made a new one for my art streams. I drag the laptop over from where I usually have it depending on what I'm planning on doing in the stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6593086
SOUL. Is that a "no step on snek" flag?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6592841
3 monitor setup with a mic coming over one of them
2 tables smooshed together to make an L shape so my cat can sleep on top

[Anonymous No.]

>>6593300
Yeah. It was a Christmas gift from my older brother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6583448
That's exactly where I'm standing in right now. Keep it up, my ningen. I'm not producing vtubing content yet, but I'm uploading videos and learning the ropes on edition, too.
These threads really are the motivation most of us needed to do that leap of faith without regrets. Thanks, everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6592919
>>6592958
>>6593000
>>6593086
I could start right away with a mid-tier laptop. I was able to run vtube studio on it but not sure if it can handle running it alongside OBS, Twitch/Youtube and whatever I'm playing at the moment.
I wanted to ask about Artemis: she's an indie but she catched on pretty quickly, what did drive people towards her? Was it her model? Good Twatter shilling?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6593767
From what I understood, she rode the Gura wave (shark), her chara design was well-liked, and she was hyper on twitter. So basically what you said

[Anonymous No.]

>>6593767
basically being good at playing the twitter game and being around right when the EN stuff blew up

[Anonymous No.]

>>6592841
I've two 1920 x 1080 monitors, one is turnable so it's longways because code/discord nerd but it turns out having both obs and twitch channel manager on top of each other is nice. I have a pretty large desk so I have room for mouse keyboard and goxlr. Also because the monitor is sideways, I have room for the camera stand for the iphone tracking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6593797
>>6593947
>>6593979
I only have a second-hand laptop that luckily had some RAM upgrades, so I was thinking if I can really start with that. It's an ACER Aspire 4738Z.

[Anonymous No.]

I WANT MY MODEL

[Anonymous No.]

>>6592841
Two monitors, one 1080p, one 1440p, good PC (RTX 3070), microphone in the center of my desk, webcam on the primary monitor pointed at my face for tracking.

>>6593305
Similar L-shape desk setup here for the same reason, though my cat's an asshole who decides to lay down directly in front of whatever I'm looking at instead of sitting in my spot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6592841
I stream from a couch, but I have my obs and chat all here while I play on a tv mounted on the wall

[Anonymous No.]

>>6594585
I noticed anons have some nice mics. I only have one of those concert mics that I'm not sure it will even work with my laptop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6593767
Good Twitter, also had a high quality iron vertex model early on. Generated a lot of hype. Not really something you can emulate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6594649
I was fortunate enough to have worked through the pandemic so I was able to use one of the stimulus checks for my Sm7B. Honestly couldn't recommend it enough if you can afford it

[Anonymous No.]

>>6592841
I've got a low-end laptop on a coffee table.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6594670
I have a good model, not iron vertex but it's pretty good. The good twitter part though, I will get on track about that. I just don't want to have a twitter account with dreadful debut TBA for months and turn into a vtwatter.
>>6594936
What about your mic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6595034
Been using an Audio-Technica ATR2500USB. I'm no audio guy, but it seems fine enough to me. I'm mostly using gear I've had for years and some second-hand stuff I got from my brother. Not sitting on a lot of cash, so trying to keep costs down.

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>>6551190
Fuck, imagine being a father, working hard, breaking your fucking back every day to give your family a future and one day your daughter comes up to you and says "daddy i wanna be a vtuber", it would break his heart, he would cry wondering where he went wrong. Please femanons, please i beg you to reconsider, don't do this to your fathers, no decent man wants to have a vtuber daughter. He wants a good future for you, to be a decent person, a good human being and you decide to take all the effort he made and spit on it. Please have some respect and some love for the people who raised you, i know they raised you better than this, i know they raised to be a decent person, not be some sex object for broken nerds. Have some decency, have some self respect, have some, small amount of pity for the men who raised you and reconsider this whole vtuber thing. Please respect yourselfs, dont bring this shame upon your family.

[Anonymous No.]

been a while since i've seen this pasta

[Anonymous No.]

>>6585633
I wrote a thing regarding videos and editing if you're interested. There's a drought of clippers and people willing to do video content. I'm shy of posting it because people reacted awkwardly last time (they also thought I was someone else) I did but here you go anyways. https://pastelink.net/32m3i

[Anonymous No.]

>>6596291
my dad's dead

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>>6596743
shouldn't you be at work, Bruce?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6560262
I feel better again. I'm going to stream more mario right now. Feel free to join

https://www.youtube.com/illreviewanything
https://www.twitch.tv/illreviewanything

[Anonymous No.]

>>6596504
Not that anon but this is very useful. Thank you!

[Anonymous No.]

Why are there ducks on the chicken stream

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>>6584538
There's been a few of these "virtual influencers", and while they get clicks, their content is just summed up as "neato tech demo that no one cares about". Code Miko started something similar except she actually used it in a way that people give a fuck about, which was on twitch and interacting with other streamers. Notice how few views this has vs even some of the earlier shit she was doing.

[Anonymous No.]

oh are we bringing back old /auds/ posts
reminder that this is what you're competing against everyone
https://files.catbox.moe/dm9yj1.mp4

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>>6597754
why is she not looking at the camera? it makes her look like she has some sort of disorder

[Anonymous No.]

Is getting a skeb commission of my avatar with my oshi too much clout chasing? What's the faux pas limit on something like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6597754
That makes me feel better if that's what I'm competing against, honestly.

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>>6597754
And yet she's already ahead of 99% of /asp/ because she was willing to send it in and actually has some basic skills.

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>>6596504
Yo, this is hella, g. Big ups.

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>>6597754
Anon if you wanted cringe you should have linked to this instead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2TExGpiSWU
I shouldn't get my hopes up, but something good has happened for a while now: my guildmates in a game I play like my voice and it's giving me confidence that I may have some value as an entertainer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6597995
Yes. It's extremely cringe.

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>>6597995
yes this is cringe if you don't know them don't do this

[Anonymous No.]

>>6599225
>>6599858
I almost went full autism. Thanks for the check.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6600267
this is literally what spooki did and it pisses people off to have your model and someone you've never interacted with's model commissioned a bunch

[Anonymous No.]

Going live in ten to read some poetry, Coleridge's Rime of the Ancient Mariner, stop by if you're feeling it!


http://twitch.tv/profbloomvtuber
https://youtube.com/channel/UC32cEmDnlh9UQfu_TWHrbGg

[Anonymous No.]

>>6597754
>dm9yj1

[Anonymous No.]

Who this bros? was looking for my indie waifu and found this channel ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

Motivational Callie for /asp/ies. Don't be a vtweeter, make content, even if it's subpar, we all start from somewhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IssmFaJzh64
Which brings me to ask: when's a good time to open your twitter? I don't want to do it too soon and be a vtwatter for a year with nothing to show for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6600643
On the nontechnical side: Your diction is good. Your voice really fits the "professor" theme and is nice to listen to. I don't know much about the subject but you sound knowledgable without being a smartass. That's the first time I've heard someone recite a poem since high school, and it's really nice.

On the technical side: I'd say at the beginning your sound was a bit low but once you started the poem it was better. Still, you should probably try to raise it. Try looking into restream bot to reproduce the chat messages from one platform to another (like pic related, I saw that on a livestream unrelated to vtubers). Youtube crashed at some point

Thanks for the stream and have a great night too!

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>>6602238
i'd say as soon as you have a design

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>>6602310
Thanks! I'm so glad that you enjoyed the actual hearing of the poem itself. I think too many people get scared away from poetry as the result of bad experiences in school, because really, it's very accessible and fun. I've got a lot of experience writing about poetry, and I love to try to de-mystify it for people, so hearing that from you really makes my night. Thank you!

As for the technical side, I had tried to balance beforehand, but will raise it for next time. I made note of where it was.

For restream, I think I'm going to have to look into how to work that better, and do some test streams set to private to work out those kinks. I thought I had it set up to duplicate chat messages, but I think I got it wrong, or at the very least it didn't go right. I kept getting messages saying that either Twitch or Youtube was offline at various points, so I'll have to figure that out. I wish it was easier to stream to both. Twitch is definitely the bigger platform for the average streamer, but a lot of my content is better suited to Youtube, so it puts me in a bit of a pickle.

I really appreciate the feedback. Lots to work on and improve, but I'm getting my content out there, and it feels great that even a few people are enjoying it.

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>>6602238
>when's a good time to open your twitter?
If you want to be radical and absolutely not fall into the trap highlighted here, a week after your debut

[Anonymous No.]

>>6602423
>>6602439
I don't have a design per se, I'm the anon who's gonna use a free model I found online. About debuting, I keep hearing having a debut is not a good idea until you have a sort of following from vtweeting, so I want to debut only once I have a custom design.
Also I need some help with mic stuff: I connect my headset that has an integrated mic to my laptop, but when I do it fucking sounds like a plane turbine. I don't know howis the mic picking up the laptop's fan.

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>>6602599
>I keep hearing having a debut is not a good idea until you have a sort of following from vtweeting, so I want to debut only once I have a custom design.
That's a way of doing things to. My argument would be that if you want to stream, focus on streaming

>I connect my headset that has an integrated mic to my laptop, but when I do it fucking sounds like a plane turbine. I don't know howis the mic picking up the laptop's fan.
You probably have a shitty mic. Here's a list of tips that you could add to the resources: https://nickjanetakis.com/blog/how-to-record-great-sounding-high-quality-audio-at-home

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>>6602599
>headset that has an integrated mic to my laptop, but when I do it fucking sounds like a plane turbine.
headset mics and integrated webcam mics are all garbage. shell out for a standalone usb or xlr mic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6602238
How long of a lifespan do vtweeters seem to have? Like I swear I've seen predebut vtubers stay predebut for months at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6602915
I've seen some that aren't planning to debut until 2022, so I think they're just bored and want to be part of something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6602915
>>6602946
Probably the chief reason why I spent only a month getting my model commissioned and rigged. I find it funny how I came into being as a predebut vtuber and left predebut in such a short timespan while a bunch of people around me stayed predebut that entire time.

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>>6602238
unironically listen to here and make a shitty discord reactive PNG to stream with for a couple weeks, then make a vroid, then get a l2d a couple months later if you're having fun
then you can stop at literally any time without feeling like you got in too deep

[Anonymous No.]

>>6602673
>>6602683
It's the only thing I have at the moment. I plan on getting a proper mic.
>>6602915
>>6602946
>>6603005
I don't want to stay a year doing nothing but being on twitter and shilling myself with nothing to back it up. I wanted to try streaming gacha trash or just doing some zatsudan with friends, just to see how my potatop handles everything.
>>6603058
As for model, I have a l2d model ready, again I'm the one who found a free model and that's what I'm going to use.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6603273
>It's the only thing I have at the moment.
do you have a way to adjust your microphone's gain. if it's picking up a lot of background noise, drop the gain on it so it's inaudible compared to your voice/game noise/bgm

[Anonymous No.]

>>6603341
Can it be done with OBS or audacity? I'll take audio programs suggestions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6603467
yeah, just drop down the volume slider in OBS for your microphone. make sure your voice can hit the yellow when you're talking

[Anonymous No.]

I've spent most of the day updating my models with the most recent HANA tool release, fixed eyes, and new outfits. And while I enjoyed doing it, I feel slightly bummed that ultimately only a few people will appreciate the work done. /blog

>>6603467
OBS can do noise gating and compression, yes. Play around with the filters on your audio input source and read a few FAQs until you get a handle on things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6603467
everyone on OBS should
>hard limiter on start of red
>compressor about 80% up on yellow
>voice should consistently be in the yellow and game in the green

[Anonymous No.]

I made a pastebin linking to a couple of vroid resources. https://pastebin.com/X4hJ6HEA Nothing groundbreaking but It should be kinda useful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6604500
Still helpful! Thank you, anon!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6604500
>>6605854
Here's a updated version. I realize now I posted the old version.
https://pastebin.com/Ax7XhPeH

[Anonymous No.]

>>6605946
Many thanks. Gonna dig into vroid over the weekend and hopefully come up with something passable.

[Anonymous No.]

Hey /asp/ies, how's this mic? It's affordable and seems to come with the right toys and whatnot.
https://www.amazon.com/-/es/dp/B08PBL7S9Z/ref=

[Anonymous No.]

>>6608722
10:1 odds it's a scam. that's much too suspiciously cheap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6608877
I see double dubsman. I wanted to trust reviews and so far it seems it's legit, but I wouldn't know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6608722
Some of these cheap condensers area decent for the price, it's probably based off the BM800 with the addition of USB, you'd have to find a review of the exact model though to see how it sounds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6609150
I'm trying to stay in budget so I can't go all out on mic for the time being.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6609717
if that's the case, you're better off just not buying this at all. stick with what you have and acknowledge the scuff from a bad mic. you'll get better returns burning that money because at least that way, it'll give you some benefit in the form of warmth.

don't spend money you don't have to buy subpar scummy products that won't work or will break down within a month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6609801
Here's the thing, I tried messing around with sound options for my shitty integrated mic and it still picked the sound of my laptop's fans.
>>6594690
I'd love to get a mic that fancy but that would have to be later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6610021
i'm not your fucking parent, anon. if you want to buy that shit, then go for it. i'm just saying, in my experience buying microphones that price is suspicious and i would not trust it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6610021
Do you have a good enough video card to use NVIDIA Broadcast? Shit is AMAZING at cutting out background noise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6612996
I only have a laptop and a dream. I've been looking at dynamic mics after reading the pastebin, they're a bit more expensive though they would actually be the optimal choice for me what with the way too much bullshit background sound from whatever's happening in my house.
That aside, maybe I shouldn't worry about mic quality when starting. Hina Misora has potato mic but look how she keeps her audience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dvHQ0zUETc

[Anonymous No.]

>>6614971
So I'm a pretty new streamer, literally a month in today.

Don't shell out for anything other than the basics until you've dipped a toe in and tried it.

Think if you took a leaf out of Cumrag's book, and spent 4K on a model, on top of whatever the animations, BGM, and other miscellany cost. You'd pretty much feel forced to stream until you make it back.

Meanwhile, I've spent $25 on a PNG. So if I end up disliking it, or being shit and not worth watching, then it's just the cost of picking up a hobby I then dropped anyway, or a game on not amazing offer.

That said, you need a minimum quality, and even audio filters only come so far to help with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6616279
Found a free model, using that. If I play my cards right I may get a decent PC, which I wanted to for gaming anyway so it's an investment I'd be doing sooner or later. The mic though I'll see if I can find something dynamic and dirt cheap so I can get that pop filter and boom arm.

[Anonymous No.]

Just finished my second stream. Had a lot of fun, got decent viewership despite it being a mc stream of all things. I enjoyed how chill and comfy it was, and I got complimented on my voice a fair number of times. So far I'm really enjoying this streaming thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6616893
Link the stream

[Anonymous No.]

I'm dumb. What is this new "advice" category on skeb?

[Anonymous No.]

Seeing how expensive vtuber avatars cost to commission makes me want to just do it myself

[Anonymous No.]

>>6619471
I might have gotten lost in machine translation, but I think it's literally for advice. Like, asking for feedback/recommendations on your work (they brought some magazine publishers on for this), or asking artists how they do certain things etc. Probably not too relevant to mostly anyone here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6619661
Yeah, I know that feel. It's tempting to get someone else to make it, save having to learn all the steps, but the price-tag is either astronomical, or the quality is... uh... lacking.

[Anonymous No.]

God, reading some of the rrats about one of the new niji en members really hammers home my point that I hope that if I get in I have good batchmates

[Anonymous No.]

Starting to experience people shitting on me even when I don’t do anything bad (like causing drama or being mean to people). Is this a mark of progress? I don’t even know why some of these people seem to hate me, I keep to myself and don’t bother anyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6620854
theres toxicity everywhere. I don't know what kind of shit they're saying about you but I hope it doesn't get to you

[Anonymous No.]

>>6621000
Thanks! It’s mostly just petty insults, but it still sucks seeing it. I actually slightly regret shilling myself here and I’ve also stopped self-posting at all to help avoid it.
As much as I’d love to be close with the community here, there’s way too many schizos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6621446
Yea, its not worth the trouble over 5 viewers in the short term.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6621446
Everyone here has been very gracious so far, but it's probably only a matter of time before the schizos come out. Probably should stop self posting as well.

[Anonymous No.]

My average of 11 is coming through. I want to grow some more because I fear plateau and losing what I have.

Only need to shill myself in every corner of the internet.

[Anonymous No.]

Whats the legality of having an agency and is there an estimate of how much it would cost to start up such a thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6622654
>Legality
What? Why would an agency be illegal? Are you planning on taking out the competition?

>cost
Depends what you want it to do. If it's just basic PR, then the cost of a PR intern. If you want 24/7 coverage, then the cost of 4 full time employees.
If you want lawyers and artists on payroll, then you'll need to add them in too.

If you want the agency to be useful, then I'd guess you'd need
- Video editor/clipper (probably only one, depending on how many streamers you have)
- PR shill (probably only one, maybe more depending on overlap. You can schedule Tweets and YT posts, and they can spam discords/reddit
- Artist/Rigger - if you want the entire agency to look similar, you'd probably want a single artist/rigger pair, but then you'd have them queuing with each other, which might cause delays.
- Manager (probably one/two). Organizes streaming times, reaches out for external collabs, sponsorships, pre-release games for hype building
- Lawyer to fuck people up

[Anonymous No.]

>>6622654
I feel like it's way too late in the game for an agency to do much of anything, but I don't know nothing from nothing

[Anonymous No.]

My english is bad. What kind of personality would describe someone like aru? I kind of want a character designed to be like her

[Anonymous No.]

>>6625378
Smug?

[Anonymous No.]

Nearly one week in, has anyone reportied views yet? I'm still firmly at zero but I handed my audition in only a couple of hours before the deadline.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6625873
Nothing yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6551190
>Don't kill yourself yet
Is so tempting thought...

Streaming is harder than I imagined.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6623066
Hmmmm very valuable information and a great base to something potentially successful

[Anonymous No.]

>>6624524
As long as it can stand out as a brand itself and a have a team willing to work with the beginning stages of something potentially big then maybe theres a good chance it could work out atleast in theory

[Anonymous No.]

>>6622654
if you aren't a successful streamer/vtuebr or successful in some capacity in the entertainment or content creation scene you aren't going to get anywhere with an agency
no one is going to trust you so you aren't going to get talents applying and are going to scrape the bottom of the barrel

[Anonymous No.]

>>6626211
What's the hardest part for you? Technical side of things, networking side of things, the content itself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6628334
not that anon, but the networking for me. I understand it's very necessary but it's just so disheartening I feel like, not just for me, but I assume everyone else. I'm sure there are plenty of people who are incredibly entertaining to watch, arguably better than some of the bigger chuubas, the only issue is that no one knows about them so they can't shine. And one of the ways to try and overcome this is to network, it feels weird.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6628503
What have you tried so far?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6628613
For networking? I've started posting in those "drop your png" threads, although I haven't been going through others' posts in there which I heard you should apparently do. I try to show up in other people's streams and take part in their chat there (not shilly obviously, just chat like a viewer), then like their post-stream tweets and stuff. The occasional comments on peoples tweets where I know enough about them that I can make a witty joke

[Anonymous No.]

>>6628718
>"drop your png" threads
Man, how do people still fall for these?
Anyways, if you want someone's attention, comments don't do much. Have you tried upping your raiding game? Raids are easily the best networking tool anyone has access to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6629072
>fall for these
I'm aware of the whole stigma of "it's just the original person farming interactions because people will flock to them", but out of curiosity, does it actually negatively impact me in any way? Otherwise it'd be a case of "nothing gained, nothing lost", if there IS a downside to it though I'd be happy to know.
How exactly do you "up" your raiding game, as better choosing of who to raid or something?
I will say though I felt really good about my raid choice last night, I was doing a drawing stream and raiding someone else who was also doing an art stream, and when I mentioned it was my first attempt at drawing they got interested and followed me back, so maybe stuff like that is what you mean?

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>>6629072
The problem is, I'm raiding with 3-5 people. So raiding in someone of ~20 seems reasonable, or maybe ~50 if they're a chuuba I've been active in beforehand as a viewer.

But of my past six raids, 3 of them basically ignored the raid. There was a reason they're a 3-view.

And I don't like raiding into someone huge, it's such a clout-chasing thing to do

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>>6629311
Who were the ones that ignored the raid? I want to know who to avoid.

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>>6628503
>networking
the problem here is you see it as transactional so it seems foreign and weird to you
the "networking" thing literally means "go find small and medium sized streamers, sit in their chat, talk to them, hang out, have a good time"
then you follow them on twitter, like the posts they make you like, crack a few jokes here and there under their posts (being appropriate and not autistic though)
it's all about integrating yourself into the community and having fun online

stop overthinking it

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>>6629206
>does it actually negatively impact me in any way?
Yes. If you drop images and get little reactions, your algo takes a hit.

[Anonymous No.]

Have a free VRM model. I made it in like 2 hours.
https://files.catbox.moe/4f52qk.vrm
https://files.catbox.moe/nmf9wt.png

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>>6628334
Anon here. Technical and the lack of better equipment to start with.

Really shitty pc with faulty usb/connections, bad mic, no cam to track face, I'm not tech savvy.

The content I think I could manage fine, I'm an artist, play lots of different games and can talk non stop about anything to myself.

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>>6629416
Not that anon, but I've just never used Twitter before. I've always been aware of it, but I was in grad school when Twitter started getting really big around 09-10 and it just seemed pointless to me, so I never started using it. Now I'm trying to get used to it and I just don't understand how people tweet so much and so constantly. I don't have that many thoughts in a day.

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>>6630307
it's the mindset, people who tweet a bunch think in a way where they have these thoughts that are easily condensed to a few sentences and just fire out whatever is on their mind

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>>6630368
I've just never understood why people would be interested. Like, I just made myself an iced coffee, but why would I tweet that out?

I'm trying my best at it though, and getting some engagement on tweets. I'll just keep at it.

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If anyone here needs to network, check out https://www.twitch.tv/kabhaalvt and his circles. He has connections to BuffPup and similarly popular streamers.

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>>6630736
>vtuber who's thing is being well connected so people try to connect with him
this 100% feels like a trap
interacting with them just boosts their engagement and viewer numbers to make them pop off more but doesn't really help you either

[Anonymous No.]

How do i make her less generic

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Anyone else just feel super discouraged sometimes? I've been streaming since last year and since then the environment has changed so much, I want to be accepted by an agency someday but it feels like I need to have more and more skills.

Last year when I applied to various agencies, I got at least a couple of emails back. Now though, it's all radio silence and it feels bad. I'm trying to keep my chin up and not give up, but it feels hopeless and like an uphill task to stand out even a little.

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>>6631916
>twintail vampire
you've already lost with a generic base idea

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>>6631916
hair accessory? try to make up a logo for her to use on her blouse? a unique design for the wings?

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>>6631916
Huge magnum dong in a lacy sock, visible at all times peeking out from the bottom of the skirt

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>>6632067
I do every now and then
I spent 7 years in 2 view town as a voice only streamer and it's really discouraging now that I'm starting on a new account in a smaller niche to see accounts sit at 0 follows or 2 views again
but all you can do is either press on or quit

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>>6630736
You have got to be autistic to enjoy listening to that voice for longer than a few seconds.

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>>6632067
go do some crazy shit that's different from your usual content. dance like no one is watching, you know? but the reality is that they actually aren't watching. so dance away.

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>>6631916
White black and blonde hair is all kind of cliche in anime vampires. In-fact your entire color scheme is cliche. Just looking for vampire vtubers alone, there's Uni Akatsuki who also has twintails, blond hair, and reddish eyes. She also has 133k followers on youtube. So thre's a non zero chance of people just thinking you're copying her. The vaguely victorian clothing is boring as well. She looks like you googled anime vampire. Also her wings, coat, and tights all blend into each other.

>>6632269
Also do this.

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>>6632079
It's my favourite anime trope and i haven't seen it a lot in Vtuber circles.
>>6632089
thanks! good idea
>>6632269
also good idea

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>>6631916
Get a better base idea or at least a more original color scheme, you can combine anything with the vampire concept to improve it.

[Anonymous No.]

Would it be deeply shameless clout chasing up arrange and record a barbershop version of a famous vtuber's original song? I know lots of people do covers or karaoke versions, but this would basically be like musical fan art. Thoughts?

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>>6632558
sounds fine, people do covers all the time.

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>>6632348
Remember that most vtuber fans are also anime fans. If a design is cliche in anime it's automatically cliche in vtubing circles.
>>6632558
If I was that vtuber I would be fucking excited, remember that Calliope Mori even had a full on remix contest and I'm pretty sure a japanese vtuber had one as well.

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>>6632614
>>6632623
Sweet, got a few song candidates in mind that I think could be really fun to reinterpret in a totally different style, plus it satisfies a creative itch to arrange. Wasn't sure if it would come off as leeching, but thinking about it as a fan work, it would be welcome, hopefully. Thanks anons.

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>>6632754
yeah, if you're putting effort into something, it's generally not seen as being a leech. most leeches just chase after big names, spam tags, comments, and other low effort shit just to get attention on themselves

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>>6632889
Barbershop arrangements are generally high effort low reward affairs to begin with, so I think I'm in the clear. Would absolutely love it if in the end it got retweeted or liked, though, that's reward enough.

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>>6631916
Needs another theme to add on top.

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>>6632558
THIS WOULD BE KINO FUCKIN DO IIIIIIT

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>>6632292
This is great advice. Besides, streamers are most fun to watch when they're clearly enjoying themselves.

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>>6629551
I'm not that anon but I want more details. So if you post images and get no attention it'll only get worse?
>>6632889
This is my fear with being a TBA. I'd be pretty much just tweeting and doing that sort of stuff to start gaining traction. I was considering starting mute while I get a mic but then I desisted.

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Hello lads, I've been trying to come up ideas for an avatar. So far I've thought of a dude with a TV head, a goatman, a librarian with horns (like Dota 2's Terrorblade), and now I've been thinking about a crash test dummy like pic related (but well drawn, and less uncanny).
What do you guys think of these ideas? I'll do some concept art later, is any of them bad? The TV head was met with criticism because there's like 2 other TV head indies, but I honestly see no problem with that (and it's a little bit boring to be honest).

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>>6635959
your design doesn't matter, start streaming, get some experience and figure out what you want later

[Anonymous No.]

Holy shit, Live2d is getting insane.
https://twitter.com/himono_vtuber/status/1414957865626968064

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>>6635959
I think that your design should be a result of who you are/want to be/what you want to do, a consequence of that. I don't see the link between your designs. Try to start with that. For example, guy with the TV head gives a "we live in a society" feeling. What are you planning to do with that? Why a crash test dummy?

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>>6636053
honestly at that point, i might as well just go full celshaded 3D because lord knows how expensive that kind of rigging is gonna cost.

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>>6635792
i think that's only if it consistently happens
Personally when I first started I still got some interactions from those PNG drop threads and I think I did end up meeting people that became consistent viewers of mine but obviously the experience is different for everyone.
My only advice if you do actually participate in one of those is that it felt like you almost always got more interactions the earlier you jump onto them because otherwise your post is immediately buried behind the other people who replied

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>>6635959
grab a stock photo and do streams with the reactive image discord avatar trick
after you settle on a tone for your streams build up an avatar after

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>>6635991
Good point mate, does it matter that I'm ESL with decent pronounciation?
Did a test stream on YouTube (which has been privated since) for two friends and I THINK I don't sound that bad.
>>6636067
Honestly, the avatar's there to provide the audience someone to look at, rather than be a narration (although there's some VERY successful streamers like Tobias Fate, that use no avatar).
I don't plan to do anything specific with the crash test dummy, I just thought it'd be cool to try to make it work. The TV head idea was about making it look like an old TV is the viewer's screen.
>>6636239
Thanks for the idea! Don't know anything about Discord's reactive image, and it's not on my plans to use a fully rigged model from the get go.

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>>6636395
>does it matter that I'm ESL with decent pronounciation?
no, accent is a buff for most of the western world, even if you speak Florida. don't stream on youtube you knob.

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>>6636395
>don't know about discord reactive image
it's literally in the OP pastebin and takes about 15 minutes to set up even if you're an absolute tech illiterate dunce

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>>6636430
Is streaming to YouTube really that bad? Or is it just that Twitch is much better?

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>>6636684
youtube has literally 0 discoverability and you are entirely at the mercy of the algorithm
twitch has filters by game, tags, vtubers have their own private tag, and twitch culture highlights raiding and hosting to pass your viewers to someone else as you end your stream so there's a higher chance of someone bigger than you ending and passing their viewers onto you

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>>6636684
both. Youtube is where indies go to die.
if you don't believe me, go to youtube right now and find live indie vtuber

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>>6636814
>>6636828
Thanks. I think I associate vtubers with YouTube, since it's in the name and all, and I'm very unfamiliar with twitch, since I don't really watch streamers outside of vtubers (who are on YouTube). I can see how those twitch features would be especially beneficial for someone starting out.

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>>6637042
youtube only works for Hololive and like 20% of Nijisanji. it's a graveyard for everyone else.

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>>6592841
honestly my build is pretty stacked because I do some music production on the side.

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>>6619661
Just do it. Find or commission a png, get a free trial for photoshop and separate the layers, and rig it in Live2d. Live2d seems intimidating but it's actually not that hard to use at all.

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most big clips channel only clip hololive that's pretty unfair if you ask me

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>>6637719
Thinking about how things are "unfair" is mental poison, don't do it

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above is bait, don't take it

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>>6637719
Sounds like an opportunity for you to have a big, successful clip channel by clipping entertaining indies, then

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>>6637719
Clip yourself then. THere's multiple channels that have clipped only ENs like Cooksie or Vtubers R Us.

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>>6637762
Shit you're right, I forgot about the stupid clipping discourse yesterday despite being a part of it

Most in.

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>>6637844
desu it was pretty hilarious seeing two schizos go at it

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>>6636053
I'm glad to see more Himono here

[Anonymous No.]

Give me the latest drama onegai.

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>>6638986
No

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Thaks everyone for the critics, i started working on the design again. I suck at designing characters and clothing but hopefully i can end up with something decent. If not then i would have to save to pay someone to redesign her in the future.

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:( at least 2 months and I haven't even gotten through my second draft with my artist yet

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>>6640520
An easy upgrade is to use an animal that fits your personality. Are you tired and slow, like a koala? Got lots of energy and grace like a gazelle? Maybe you love pranking people and shiny stuff like a magpie? Adding animal features and doing some research on the animal makes for a decent twist on most standard designs, including vampires.

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>>6640725
I am pretty sure a great artist could make that work but i don't think i can pull it off. At this point i think i have given up on originality and instead i just want something decent enough.

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>>6637190
i want to hear your music

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>>6638986
This thread doesn't really get drama
/wvt/ is right down the hall though

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>>6640859
If those two images are yours, you definitely could if you came back to it after getting a clear head. You have the skills for it.

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>>6632558
I'd definitely be into that.

Speaking of, would it be any sort of faux pas to cover a song by a graduated Vtuber? I want to play Senzawa's I Wanna Be a Cowboy. Like, the etiquette is just not to link graduates to their new lives, yeah? Otherwise, kinda anything goes?

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>>6641165
you can still cover that, just don't go around trying to tag Gura about it

[Anonymous No.]

How do you practice talking consistently? Do you just think out loud on/off stream until it becomes natural?

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>>6642210
yes

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>>6589037
Just go for it anyway. Your charisma and content is more important. Make it your own.

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>>6643508
To add to this, I want to use Hina Misora as an example: she started with an absolute potato of a PC, and said on stream she was worried people would grow bored of her because all she could do was zatsudans. People stayed in spite of the tech difficulties and she eventually got a baked potato PC that she can upgrade down the line.

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>>6642210
Pick your favorite game. The one you've wanted your friends to try, but they all refuse. The one you know loads of little tricks for.

Play it.

But play it slowly. Explain why you're taking each decision, and what the other decisions you could take would do. Imagine your audience don't know the subject at all, so you need to cover things in quite a bit of detail.

Don't pick pokemon, but if you did, you'd explain, before getting the starter, what the first couple of gyms are, and so why each one is easy/medium/hard mode; or why you like the design of one the most don't say it's because you want to fuck it.


Narrate things in your standard life, but in your head (don't look like a schizo).

Think about what you could choose to say to add to sentences, so that they extend a bit more, and you're filling the time with effectively just waffle and human noises, as that keeps your viewers listening. Go off on slight tangents if it's one you can keep going on - tangents are interesting, because all straight lines in a two-dimensional plane are either tangential to each other, or parallel. They will either cross once and then get further apart, or stay the same distance, but never ever touch. But going into three dimensions, it's possible for them to be semi-tangential, but not actually intersect.

That was a lazy segue. And it wasn't smooth. But I could keep going on three-dimensional space and flatland because I'm a math nerd, and dimensional interplay is fascinating.

Comedians on panel shows can be good - watch the English Mock the Week, especially the buzzer section. They get given a prompt, and have to tell a story. But they often end up going through hoops to get it:
Prompt: Family
"Don't you hate family dinners? My aunt always brings hummus, but I'm allergic to chickpeas. Learning this, when I was dating a Lebanese girl [story about a disaster date not linked to 'family' at all]

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>>6640520
>>6631916
Silhouette is important in character design and can be used as an aspect to make it more unique when the concept isn't. It is also important for targeting the audience you want. In your second batch, the silhouette is especially baggy and has unflattering proportions. If you want it to be more sexy, then choose clothes or proportions that complement the body best. Cuter characters have baggier clothes, but still have nice proportions. The shape of the skirts and the big jacket and sleeves obscure the body and don't have very eyecatching proportions. If you want to exaggerate one thing a lot, I suggest making other things smaller or not there at all. I made a quick sketch of a design that I think has a more unique and appealing silhouette. Design is really difficult and there's a lot of things to consider that you don't even think of but affect the overall impression by a lot. I'm rooting for you anon! Hope to see you thrive.