/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Nobody deserves a model this ugly.

[Anonymous No.]

the saddest thing is it's probably not caused by cost-cutting

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>>6545113
This pic reminds me of Shrek.

[Anonymous No.]

How about Kiara?

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>>6545500
p. Sure it costed way more than gooruh's model

[Anonymous No.]

vtubing is still a brand new industry and no one really knows what works and what doesn't

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>>6545113
blame your parents

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>>6546351
falling for the famous artist meme is the worst thing any creative team can do. They're more of a detriment .

[Anonymous No.]

please don't post her model again it haunts me at night

[Anonymous No.]

and nobody deserves to be a failure

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>>6546678
>vsinger
ngmi
Show me her numbers in 3 months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>vsinger
>ngmi
>Show me her numbers in 3 months.

[Anonymous No.]

We can hope for model update in 6 months, right?

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>>6546715
she doesnt need 3 months to humiliate all nijien combined

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>>6546678
>numberfagging this hard

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>>6546744
Reported!

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>>6547006
>coping this hard

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>>6545113
The question here for me is does Cover even see and recognize a problem or do they think that this is fine? I see a lot of discussion about when she might get a redesign, but that's all predicated on Cover thinking that there is a problem in the first place. I think it's ugly and I think most people on /vt/ that aren't being ironic also find it ugly, but I don't know if that is the opinion of the wider Hololive community let alone Cover themselves.

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>>6546327
Kiara doesn't deserve any model, not even this one.

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>>6547158
I think most viewers like it, it's just that when people like something they usually don't write a thousand butthurt threads and comments about it

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>>6545113
I think it has soul. Think about it folks, good vtuber model and rigging are a dime a dozen these days. Just look a the fucking indies on Twitch with their pubic hair rigging. Does it make them any more entertaining? No. You can dress up a turd, but it's still shit. There are a lot of really popular Holos that have had shit models / rigging that fans found endearing. I for one was dissapointed as hell when Miko got her upgrades, I miss that little retard.

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>>6547393
It's different. The problem isn't bad rigging, it's the design.

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Nobody deserves 200k free subscribers either

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>>6547499
Nah, it's rigging. The model itself looks fine in stills for the most part. It looks like one of those AI-generated movie videos you see signing baka mitai when moving.

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>>6545113
WHEEEEEZE
Well, I love her for her voice, So I am not that bothered. I agree she should have 2.0 right away tho.

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>>6546678
Man, no need to beat dead horses like this. I hate them but insulting them further is just too cruel. At least have a feeling as a human will you.

[Anonymous No.]

dont bully her

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>>6545113
the model was bad but in terms of subs and views she managed to pwnd all the 3 nijisanji en ladies combined

hate her all you want but she holds the end result.

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>>6547601
i dont like her, her voice reeks of so many mental issues

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>>6547393
>good vtuber model and rigging are a dime a dozen these days
not in hololive

>Does it make them any more entertaining?
Of course. There are several, like codemiko or that raccoon girl, who are known only because of their tech.

>You can dress up a turd, but it's still shit.
True, but it will make people look, and that's the only thing that matters in this business. Nicely dressed turds are the most popular thing in modern entertainment and society in general.

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>>6547729
>not in hololive
Exactly my point dumbass. And Hololive is the most popular Agency on the market by far. It just goes to show that the model isn't all that important.

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>>6547158
There is a lot of discussion about people being bothered by the model and/or rig outside this place as well. It's just that, like a lot of places out here, these discussions are quickly silenced or trolled to oblivion, and accused of "listening to 4chan" even though it's obvious none of the people complaining are even from here.

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>>6547774
not much is important when you have a brand name to sell. You can even get away with hiring Mori and Kiara.

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>>6545113
It's just the fucking Tumblr nose.

Get rid of that and it's solved.

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>>6548125
You mean Ina, who's as boring as fucking watching paint drying and yet she's still making money somehow.

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>>6547729
>who are known only because of their tech
And that's all they are known for. This just shows nobody watch them and just impress with their model.

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>>6547729
>Of course. There are several, like codemiko or that raccoon girl, who are known only because of their tech.
A lot of people don't even consider codemiko a vtuber. There is a point where it just crosses the line and goes into e-girl territory and she's well past that point.

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>>6548254
at least she's not outright disgusting, unlike the other two.

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>>6548125
I might not like Kiara, but I respect her. She is at least into idol culture and actually wants the job. Mori was a huge fucking flop, it's a fucking wonder why she's so popular with how she treats her viewers and the blatant disregard she shows for Hololive.

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>>6548842
>it's a fucking wonder why she's so popular
see
>>6547729
>Nicely dressed turds are the most popular thing in modern entertainment and society in general.

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>>6548254
Ina is arguably one of the most talented holos we've seen so far, anon...

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>>6546678
yea you know it

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>>6549048
Who is getting mogged in this screenshot exactly? 16K is pretty fucking high for a super chat reading.

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>>6549105
4th stream since debut ain't high

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>>6549159
Doesn't matter, it's a super chat reading stream bro. Hardly anybody will sit through three hours of that, 16k is pretty fucking great, although it averaged more around the 12k area.

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>>6549048
Anonchama, don't drag Rushia into this nonsense.

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>>6549267
Everything in this world was created for Anon to further his argument, anon.

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>>6549033
spazzy zoomers can't appreciate a chill streamer, they need a flickering screen to feel alive.

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>>6546678
the thread wasnt even mentioning them
why are holobronies like this ?

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>>6549417
This, same reason why Mio and Okayu dont have 100 shitpost threads 24/7 yet have dedicated fanbases.

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>>6549159
remember me again how much viewers nijien got in their fourth stream?

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>>6549449
why so mad nijibronie? I just showing the truth

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>>6550032
>thread is about how ugly a model is
>BUT LOOK AT THE NUMBERS
Obsessed.

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>>6550276
don't drag Pomu into your shitposting, retard

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>>6550276
mad cause I exposed your cancer failure?

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>>6547849
This is unironically why 4chan is pretty much the only forum I've visited in the last decade or so. I can go to any board and have a hot take and at worst I'll get called a faggot or nigger, but anywhere else and they just ban you out the gate.

I'm honestly shocked her design made it to release. It's sitting on the edge of the uncanny valley if not already in it. When she's actually moving around, it's not as bad, but the still images are almost unsettling. How did nobody in the QA process stop and think, "Is this a good idea?" I really hope they give her a new outfit that fixes this shit if they don't want to do a full redesign.

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>>6550007
how much did Gura, Mori get?

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>>6550759
https://holo.poi.cat/youtube-channel
go look it yourself

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>>6545113
I'm not even any sort of anti, I'm just terribly disappointed that they did this to her

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>>6545113
its like N64 tier

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>>6546678
what a massacre

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>>6546678
>people merely saying they think irys should get a better model, no mention of competing agencies whatsoever
>b-but the other people can't coast entirely off of brand recognition for numbers

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>>6550977
>putting facts on the table
>b-but her model, b-but that´s not the point

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>>6546421
Nor do we. It might work for a whole new audience that aren't otaku NEETs, the model's not to my tastes but who the fuck knows

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>>6550842
>talk about views on 4th stream
>retard post average
Oggey

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>>6551091
I'm just asking where the relation comes in. I don't really care that nijien has lower numbers since they're the same quality and I personally prefer them. It would be kind of a waste to let numbers dictate my enjoyment of a vtuber over other factors.

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>>6547513
200,000 people trust Hololive enough to give the new talent a chance, which is what justifies competing against 6000 other people during applications for the role anon.

It's a vote of confidence in Hololive's recruitment processes, whether you think she deserves it or not doesn't matter a single bit

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>>6551176
I know you are mentally special anon but try to finish the school

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I like her, but she should be a fairy. The angel/demon thing doesn't suit the design.

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>>6547513
that's just how it works due to hololive's popularity. Nijisanji has some advantages in terms of stuff like freedom for the talents but hololive is the place to be for anyone who cares most about moneymaking or a jumpstart on their numbers.

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>>6551229
Oggey

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>>6551260
She mentioned changing, so maybe she will get variants later on with a stronger angelic or demonic design.

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>>6551315
it's good to know that you got it

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>>6545113
It's just the mouth
reallife like mouth doesn't mix well with live2D anime aethetic. Just imagine ina drawing in live2D

[Anonymous No.]

i reject your sex

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>>6551362
>it's good to know that you got it
what did anon mean by this?
Did he get a stroke because of how much he's seething?

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>>6551415
this only makes the sex better

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>>6551415
I restore yagoo's soul

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>>6551439
>>6551362
maybe, it happens when two tribalist retards like both of you argue too much

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>>6546678
Is this how Irystocrats cope?

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>>6551415
I Raped your Sister

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>>6551183
Im posting how good she´s doing

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>>6547669
Explain. NOW

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>>6546678
Almost 2 months of advantage and they still cant compete, kinda sad

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>>6546678
imagine losing against that

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>>6551415
Incredibly Racist yeasty Slut

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>>6546678
>actual funny entertainers have shit numbers
>a literal who with a big brand cock in her mouth = huge numbers
This is why I can't take corp vtubing seriously and cut ties with every single one.

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>>6547214
There is no model to catch her awesomeness

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>>6551770
now this is cope

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>>6551415
imagine rubbing young slit

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>>6551770
>actual funny entertainers have shit numbers
I think almost 500k in three days is pretty good

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>>6551874
Are you trying to imply the h*lo is a schizo?

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>>6551796
it's only natural. after all, nothing is harder to catch than something that doesn't exist

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>>6550032
>oh no my chuubas don't have brand recognition to depend upon for easy numbers, how will I live

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>>6552006
yeah, they suck despite being part of nijisanji, sad but true

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>>6551606
>comparing two debuts, not streams after settling in
>not at all considering that debut stream numbers will not be unreasonably inflated via association with hololive

?????????

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>>6552062
yes, its not that hard to understand

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>>6552058
based upon the fact that this isn't at all related to what I said I'm guessing you don't actually have any pro-numberfag argument.

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>>6552149
the numbers are there, you like it or not, they needed one debut to obliterate a full gen

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>>6551998
Indeed. Perfection does not exist.

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>>6546678
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

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>>6552266
unlike Kiara, sadly

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>>6551770
And a fucking Indian music label has more subs than anyone you just mentioned combined.
You can spend your whole pathetic life crying about meaningless numbers or you can turn those negative emotions into positive support for your chuuba. Your choice.

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>>6546678
Lol, yet they're more interesting. Funny how that works huh nigga.

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>>6552525
>t-they are more interesting
nice one

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>>6552525
if they're so interesting then why does no one watch them?

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>>6545113
I feel like I'm the only one who likes how it looks. It's got a very mythical feel to it. Really the only weird thing is the dark desaturation applied to it.

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>>6545113
i wouldn't mind if she had an interesting personality, but she's so fucking boring. why did they pick her specifically

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>>6558811
I actually like the the fact that she looks like she has shaders cranked to max. It's just enough to trigger the twitter SJWs when artists draw her with white skin. I promise you there will be a Hero Hei video on this before the end of the month.

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>>6551409
Really? Not the eyes that are completely static and don't move at all?

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Why the fuck do you idiots talk about "cutting costs" these things cost a few thousand dollars to make, Cover makes tens of millions

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>>6545113

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Her model's grown on me, because her voice and mannerism are exceptional.

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>>6545113
Her indie model being a thousand times better only adds to the ofense

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>>6559242
Not that guy, but I find it funny that unlike you teo, my only issue with IRyS model was her nose. I don't really find her eyes or mouth that bad

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>>6560400
I don't agree. There are issues with her L2D model too, but her indie model was just too generic and unimpactful

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>>6546678
>Pomu is worse because she has less subs
what an odd way to think

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Is this a worse design if Petra has less subs? Yes or no.

Also, is Gura more talented than Pekora? Same idea. Numbers don't tell the full story.

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>>6546678
Numbers only tell you about the exposure of the chuuba. Got clips and a big fanbase behind the corp? Expect big numbers. Otherwise, you'll stand near <100 live viewers at best. Does that say anything about how good the chuuba is? Absolutely not. I never fully trust numbers because Ayame exists to spite them.

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>>6561387
Pekora has way more average viewers than Gura though and probably more supas as well. Subs aren't everything.

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>>6561829
Memes net you subs. Charisma nets you viewers

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she looks seriously disgusting
not mediocre, not even just bad, but outright nasty
looking at her is painful
the art is shit, the rigging is shit
her face twists and disjoints when she moves
her hideous rat face and dead eyes that don't even move, like flat stickers
she gives PS1 character vibes
I blame the artist and the rigger equally for such a shit show
cover needs to stop trying to shard to get big artists and just get competent artists with a decent track record with live2D instead and art styles that work well for that format

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>>6563148
The rigger did what he could, but the artist absolutely fucked up the model. Her Live2D looks better in the rigger's twitter as well. Hell, the fanart that she gets is better than the model itself.

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>>6562046
I'll do a bit of numberfagging here based on your post. This is just comparing subs to viewers by the formula (Average Views)/(Subscribers)

Hololive EN:
Mori: ~15%
Kiara: ~19%
Gura: ~17%
Ina: ~18%
Amelia: ~14%
IRyS: at LEAST 66%, unstable

Nijisanji EN:
Pomu: ~19%
Elira: ~24%
Finana: ~18%

IRyS is still in the growth phase and currently has more views than subscribers. If I wanted more accurate numbers, we'll need to wait at least a month after debut. Using HoloEN gen 1's numbers provides a better comparison to Niji EN, since they've been here for a while now.