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65352011 No.65352011 [Reply] [Original]

>The event was innitially behind a paywall and got less than 3k viewers
>Vshojo fans said that the numbers are wrong and inspect element doesn't show the viewership
>They re-release the concert, this time free for all
>Barely break the 4k viewership mark
We can finally say with 100% confidence that this concert was a massive flop.

>> No.65352353

Of course its a flop. Who in their right mind wants to watch a bunch of whores that cant sing, 1 whore that can sing and tranny larping as a woman using TTS to sing

>> No.65352638

>>65352353
Correct, this is also the main reason why older idols drop off. It gets harder to believe in the single / virgin meme the older they get.

>> No.65352646

>>65352353
based and true

>> No.65353047

>>65352353
I hope someone leaks Zen "singing"

>> No.65353295

>>65352011
Henya was doing a watch-along which broke 10k

>> No.65353648

>>65353295
Isn't this worse? People would rather watch henya react to the event than watch the event itself. If I remember right, vshojo doesn't take a cut from subs/ads, so the 10k people watching henya aren't making the org any money lol.

>> No.65353851

>>65353648
The replay was one-time only and was free. Henya's watchalong was also one-time only and the VOD is gone now. People who watched it prior were probably watching in Henya's POV.

>> No.65353970

>>65353295
Crazy how henya and ex niji's are the only thing this company has to offer

>> No.65353998

>>65352011
>stay away from Idol culture as much as possible
>idol like conert flops
Who could have ever see this coming?

>> No.65354129

Their audience didn't ask for idol content
Their talents aren't invested in idol work
If there's a vtuber audience that wants idol content, they are already: not watching vshoujo and well inside the event horizon of the black hole that is the holobox.

They can make 3D events work but they should move away from music. They should take inspiration from the variety crap nijisanji's been producing

>> No.65354595

>>65353047
>leaks
She has multiple covers available on her YouTube channel right now stupid

>> No.65355545

>>65352353
Imagine being this tilted over women existing on the internet.

>> No.65355933

>>65355545
>women
I wish that was the case anon. I wish

>> No.65356075

Replay was an unexpected reward for all the donations from their charity. Numberfags and VShojo antis really can't help themselves can they.

>> No.65356310

they should be copying what fillian is doing instead of trying to copy what hololive is doing
instead, ironmouse is going to hold a grudge for the rest of her life because vshoujo kept trying to make idols instead of making a vtuber award show like she wanted

>> No.65356749

>hololive invented concerts

>> No.65357751

>>65355933
kek

>> No.65357932

>>65352353
This

>> No.65359037

>>65352353
Enough about Hololive

>> No.65360187

>>65355545
Imagine replying to statement that no one made

>> No.65360348

>>65353295
>Twitch numbers
LMAO

>> No.65360732

>>65355545
I like how the vshills always use this as an argument, when most holofags and even nijifags don't have problems with women existing on the internet, just vshojo.

>> No.65360907

>>65359037
baffling post
absolutely mindbroken

>> No.65361188

>>65353648
>People would rather watch henya react to the event than watch the event itself.
and miss how hard she was blushing while watching the two songs she was also in? you got no idea what a precious moment that was for us.
>>65356310
filipino boy is shilling fansly now...
>>65360348
funny how it's always j00t00b where /#/ can point out the obvious botting, innit?

>> No.65362537

>>65354129
Honestly vshojo should listen to this. You are not Hololive, stop trying to be hololive and be vshojo instead. Do a variety/comedy show, swing your twitch clout around and get some guests, turn it into a vtuber SNL or something. This is the same problem that plagued every wrestling company that wasn't WWE but kept copying them (and picking up every wrestler that left WWE). WCW/TNA/AEW keep trying to copy the leader instead of catering to fanbases that want something different.

>> No.65362683

>>65362537
That's the worst part, Most of them can't sing so they have to use a heavy amount of auto-tune to make them sound anything like they're supposed to, one of them literally is TTS, and none of them actually flew in to do dancing and so at best the two Japanese talents are the only people in the company who were actually there for the MoCap.

>> No.65362950

>Henya wanted to do concert shit
>Gunrun sets it all up for her even though it flops
Riku would NEVER

>> No.65363780

>>65362537
>be vshojo instead
That's what you idiots don't get.
They ARE being VShojo.

VShojo is purely a support system for whatever their talents want to do.
They did a concert because they wanted to do one. It's as simple as that.
It was neither the first nor the last concert put on by VSJ talents, several of whom have varying degrees of musical ambition.
In fact one of Henya's big dreams was to be in a concert.
Songs and concerts are not "idol" content. It's just fucking MUSIC.

This concert has nothing to do with Hololive.
Hololive do not own the concept of concerts.
They are not copying anyone.

>> No.65364966

>>65361188
>filipino boy is shilling fansly now
My nigga, you have melody fucking her brains out every week. Vshojo is literally the only big corpo that can't complain about a fansly sponsor lmao

>> No.65367126

>vshojo wins something
They are still irrelevant nobody cares
>vshojo doesn't get holo/niji numbers on a concert
What a flop they can't even compete with the biggest vtuber corpos

Also kys numberfags this was still a fun project for their fans and the vast majority of vshojofags had a great time

>> No.65367545

>>65367126
>it was only for the fans, that's why it flopped
You sound like those bitter 2views coping aobut their lack of success
>I don't care about numbers, I want my small community! pls, any corpo, accept me, I'll do anything

>> No.65367621

>>65352353
fpbp
>>65352638
and /thread

>> No.65367685

>>65359037
rent free

>> No.65367743

>>65367126
>>vshojo wins something
only the rata won anything

>> No.65367855

>>65352011
Vshojo had a concert?

>> No.65367988

>>65367545
>it was only for the fans
Nigga who the fuck do you think this was supposed to be for? The idolfags who seethe just by hearing vshojo?

>> No.65368103

>>65367743
Vshojo won henya and holofags are still coping about it

>> No.65368211

numbermonkeys who post outside of /#/ deserve the rope

>> No.65368243

>>65353295
So there's 6k people either not watching the concert or they are botting. Wonder which it is.

>> No.65368513

>>65368103
stop inventing narratives, fag.No holofan cares about henya, I even forgot it existed.

>> No.65369048

>>65367988
To be fair, I don't think you can say "this event was for the fans" when they didn't show up. Ironmouse sleeping during her subathon got more support from vshojo viewers than this event, if this isn't a good sign that vshojo viewers don't care about this shit I don't know what is.

>> No.65369592

>>65355545
>Imagine being this tilted over women existing on the internet.
>zentreya
???

>> No.65370699

>>65352011
Why replay it on the 26th and not Christmas Day or New Years Eve?

>> No.65371423

Embarrassing.

>> No.65374157

Concert was fine and fun, a bit of a change from their usual stuff in stream. But why in the hell did VSJ decide to stream it on YT twice is beyond me, their main audience is twitch, why the fuck would you release away from it... Henya reacting to the concert got her more viewers than the actual concert had..

>> No.65374238

>>65352353
this, vshojo is the fucking last corpo on earth to try to get in on the idol song and dance kind of stuff. for them to even pretend to be some principled idol corpo on par with JP ones is nothing but a mockery of the subject and everyone knows it.

>> No.65374406

>>65353295
I don't want to accuse Henya of botting, because I mean I really don't think she would give a fuck to do that personally. However, if you recall the last couple of weeks where people observed IM is at supposedly at like 10k but her chat is like 10x too slow to match and she is like a 1-2k range on Youtube (which would sound far more like that speed).. yeah. It wouldn't surprise me if someone with a vested interest in trying to puff up Vshojo's image as bigger than it actually is would arrange this kind of shenanigans. Same for Matara suddenly being way fucking more successful now than she ever was as Nina which is weird because that audience seemed to just come out of nowhere.

>> No.65374935

>>65352011
the only time I watch streams is when I get a notification. I can't show up to watch something I didn't know was happening. Also it's on youtube and everyone in vshojo streams on twitch.

>> No.65375056

>>65352011
Wasn't VILLS the first?

>> No.65375101

get rid of froot and zentranny

>> No.65375192

>>65352011
Unless they've got some Aiba (RIP) levels of talent that would be one thing or pure™ and idol™ CGDCT parasocial vibe, but what's the appeal of watching Vshojo members dancing and singing? Now if they had filian I might tune in because she can dance like no one's business, butnthe others? Seriously who would pay money to watch any of the Vshojo members sing and dance? What's the point?

>> No.65375340

>>65370699
Most people are spending Christmas day with family and loved ones and less likely to watch a concert replay. Makes more sense to do it after.
>>65374157
I don't know what's so hard to understand about this. The concert never stopped being available on Youtube. If you missed the replay you can still buy a membership right now and watch it. The only thing they did was play it for free today to celebrate the amount of money they'd raised for charity. After the free stream ended it went right back to being paid only where it's still available.

>> No.65375406

>>65374406
Henya had so many viewers because her stream was essentially a commentary track for the concert. People who'd already seen it before could watch her stream to get cool behind the scenes info and listen to her talk with Froot and Matara about what it was like. People who'd already watched it were the ones flocking to her stream .

>> No.65375596

>>65375192
The selling point was supporting streamers you like, listening to their covers, and also getting an early listen to their original songs. I feel like I'm explaining obvious things to an alien civilization

>> No.65375847

>>65353648
>10k additional people watched the event
>isn't this worth?
basic logic reps now

>> No.65376198

>>65352353
True, i don't watch vshojo for an idol experiance.

>> No.65377718

>>65375192
>if they had filian I might tune in because she can dance like no one's business
>he thinks it's the vtubers dancing in the concert

>> No.65377765

Vshojo did the concert because they could. It was a fun watch actually. Why are numbermonkeys malding at ?

>> No.65379143

>>65377765
Because it's in their nature to mald. Even when a company has a clear lead in this or that, they make up inter-company malding. It's not even tribalism at this point, they live for conflict

>> No.65379261

>>65377765
https://files.catbox.moe/e1h3td.mp4
This is the voice you should hear this thread in.

>> No.65379398

>>65379261
>e1h3td
It go linked so much /here/ I start giggling just at the sight of the link serial number and it's fun to watch every time.

>> No.65379599

>>65379143
it's almost as if they don't watch vtubers

>> No.65379625

>>65363780
holly reddit

>> No.65380131

>>65379625
he's right though.

>> No.65381477
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65381477

>>65364966
I meant it as a counter point to the puritanical idol culture worshippers, I don't have much of a problem with 2D whores, even as a Henyafag.

>> No.65381556

>>65368513
then how do you explain the constant Henya v Biboo threads, when the majority is happy both of the exist and do their own thing, and in fact like both of them? it could be one one salty schizo, that's always a possibility.

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>>65374406
>but her chat is like 10x too slow
even if I had a twitch acct I wouldn't've bothered commenting, I had Henya's stream fullscreen for the whole time.
>Same for Matara suddenly being way fucking more successful now than she ever was as Nina which is weird because that audience seemed to just come out of nowhere.
the answer is quite simple: for the watchalong Henya was the only VShojo streaming, then she sent Matara to start her own for their minecraft collab, and then most of the audience was sent along with a raid, and then Henya ended her stream, so if you wanted to see her in minecraft you had to watch Matara, here's a clip for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poTX1Zl3rPc
>>65375406
this too. I for example haven't seen it – fuck giving google my financial dox and it's not my type of music anyway – but it was a one time event with my oshi and I also love her singing voice, so why would I pass it up? I could afford to sleep in today, so I stayed awake past 2AM until it ended.
>>65375340
well put

>> No.65383676

>>65379261
What the fuck did I just watch?

>> No.65383788
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65383788

>>65379261

>> No.65384129

>>65353295
>corpo streams primarily on Twitch
>audience would rather watch someone reacting to their event than the event itself
Pottery

>> No.65384230

>>65352011
Those are decent numbers for a small corpo

>> No.65386451

>>65381556
>constant Henya v Biboo threads
Anon, I'm a catalogfag and I've seen 1, maybe 2, such threads in the 5 months since Advent's debut. Where the fuck did you get the "constant" from?

>> No.65386518

>>65386451
I see at least one every week... maybe I just spot it easier as a Henyafag, or maybe we look at the catalog at different times.

>> No.65386750

>>65386518
Could be. I'm not particularly invested in Biboo either so I don't really pay much attention to bait threads with her. Anons use Biboo to shit on Gura too, so don't pay too much attention to such bait.
Most Holofans' opinions of Henya range between "don't care" to "I like her", since she has a good reputation, so disregard those threads as falseflag attempts.

>> No.65386970

>>65352353
Wait, Zen attended? Sold, gonna watch it later.

>> No.65386983

>>65386750
>so disregard those threads as falseflag attempts.
oh, I know it's bait, and it's probably one salty sperg who can't accept Henya didn't choose Hololive. but the fact of the matter is, the deal she had with VOMS as Pika was a lot like her VShojo deal is, except now she has IP rights and has control over her merch. oh, and also she can do her work 100% remote like she used to, no officefagging, no meetings, no mandatory IRL fan meetings (whenever she "goes" to a convention is through a remote link)... hell, even Kson hasn't met her in person yet.

>> No.65387362

>>65386970
Here you go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2K9N6DwV1Q

Pretty good, there was also a Raflessia cover

>> No.65387952

>>65352011
the tech they used during the concert was like a ps2 game. ironmouse's solo thing was much better quality.

>> No.65388753

>>65375847
Viewers would rather watch a reaction than the event that they spent time and resources producing. How is this not worse?

>> No.65388921

>>65388753
Because you see the event in the reaction too?

>> No.65389106

>>65388753
I think people simply don't want to watch it twice.

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>>65388753
>watch the concert on its own
vs
>watch the concert with Henya
it's such a no-contest it's not even funny.

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65389942

>>65388753
Henya wasn't just staring at a blank screen during her stream. She watched the entire event which is why there's no VOD.

>> No.65392056

>>65359037
Enough about rentfree.

>> No.65393361

>>65363780
Now, take your pill and breath slowly

>> No.65393365

>>65352011
Should have done it on Twitch. Most Twitch viewers don't leave the site even for their favorite streamers, they just switch to another streamer.

>> No.65393460

>>65375192
You know those sleazy places with poles and very cheap overpriced booze? That.

>> No.65393498

>>65352353
FPBP.

>> No.65393507

>>65352353
Damn anon, you don't have to be so savage and post the truth like that.

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65393532

>>65393365
my favorite streamer hosted the watchalong. video very much related.

>> No.65395932

>>65352353
kek

>> No.65397490

>>65384129
>>65388753
I already watched it when it released
Of course I'm going to watch Henya and others react to it, since that adds an extra layer that I didn't have the first time
And Mata was there asking about the production and stuff, it was cool

>> No.65397689

>>65389942
>that
>3D concert
Holy shit, this looks ten times worse than Kson's bday live.

>> No.65397847

>idol culture related concert
>targeted at west
what was their expected amount? you just cant compare with Hololive with their buff. not even 2 ex Holo is enough to salvage this.

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65398206

>numberfags are now numberfagging about a free re-run that was hardly promoted compared to the first run

>> No.65401207

>>65352353
fpbp

>> No.65401412

>>65352353
FPBP
Love how everytime these shitters end up on youtube their real viewership gets exposed.
Embedmouse in shambles kek

>> No.65401446

>>65398206
And the first run was heavily promoted and got 2k viewers. The concert was a massive flop, that's the truth.

>> No.65401554

>>65352011
western whores being idols? wtf. they've been streaming for years and decides to pick up being an idol?

>> No.65401681

>>65401446
you missed the point troglodyte.

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>>65388753
>watch event
>watch event with an award winning vtuber
Tough decision

>> No.65401940

>>65352011
Vshokeks how are we going to explain this one away...?
The embed allegations...we need a deflection stat

>> No.65402063

>>65352011
ironlung is the only one there who can sing
the rest of them?lmao

>> No.65402114

>>65401446
And today it's at 21k views, and I don't think those 2k initial viewers each watched the concert 10 times.

>> No.65402214

>>65401940
Damn they unbanned your village IP?

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>>65402063
Sha la la la, motherfucker

>> No.65402440

>>65402063
she's like Ame tier at best, it's actually grim she even pretends she can sing

>> No.65402572

>>65402440
Ame is the best singer at Hololive though

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65402707

>>65402440
Now I know you're coping

>> No.65402876

>>65402707
her songs did really well right?
they must be at a clean 1 million+ now, right?
bitches voice is so hideous even when she's speaking, she should be the one using TTS

>> No.65402968

>>65402255
oh yeah i forgot kettle, she got there too didn't it
ironlung + kettle then

>> No.65403063

>>65352353
fpbp

>> No.65403069

>>65402876
Your brain is rotten to the core from being a numberfag for so long.

>> No.65403113

>>65403069
Is that a no on her songs being successful then?
Damn, and you said I was the one coping. Grim look, glad to see you were wrong though.

>> No.65403156

henny is a terrible singer watch ehr streams and call ehr funny but she will never be a music chuba.
dont know why VS insist on trying to do music.

>> No.65403166

>>65403113
I just commented on you, nothing else.
Must be a sad existence when you can only appreciate the top 10 in radio.

>> No.65403235

>>65403166
This is such a pathetic concession I feel bad for you anon
Better luck next thread.

>> No.65403286

>>65403235
You don't even know what a concession is, numberfag mongrel.

>> No.65403361

>>65403286
Why'd you focus on the numbers rather than me commenting on her atrocious sounding voice? Because you can't just handwave that away?
Face it, you're beat. Stick to your hugbox if you don't want reality to hit you in the face when you realise your literal who's aren't popular without embeds.

>> No.65403448

>>65403361
Because that is completely subjective. Retard.

>> No.65403497

>>65403361
Reading your posts in DN voice and laughing

>> No.65403583

>>65352011
1. I didn't even know about it, not that I would pay
2. why did they think a paywall was a good idea? vshojo isn't made up of premium idols.

>> No.65403586

>>65403448
>>65403497
>1 minute apart
LOL

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65403706

>>65403586
Not either of those but the second one's a new IP anon-kun

>> No.65403770

>>65403583
>why did they think a paywall was a good idea?
they were trying to compete with connect the world.

>> No.65403772

>>65352011
No shit. That however actually proved that Amerimutts and westerners have no interest in idol culture. Some faggots like KFP keep saying the modern westerners can have but no way.

>> No.65403822

>>65403772
katana-anon, chill

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>>65403772
>concerts are idol culture
Keep going. I'm already laughing

>> No.65404033

>>65403706
>4chanx exists
>newfags pretend they're not samefagging
where the fuck did you come from?

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>>65404033
4chanx is how new IP's are shown too. That second post is labeled as a new IP. Please learn how to use some of the addon's features they're very useful.

>> No.65404142

the concert sucked ass compared to big corpos so no wonder.

>> No.65404241

>>65404142
Did you actually watch it?

>> No.65404596

>>65403944
Only idol culture can value female singers who suck at singing in a concert except for some comedy or b-movie ish subculture. Ofc it doesn't represent the whole idol culture so you could call it CGDCT culture or something like that instead but as of today only the audience can handle and enjoy them. Westerners can't enjoy such "bad"singers.

>> No.65405189

>>65404596
But VShojo has multiple good singers. You're not getting this out of idols. https://youtu.be/13GSdE4ww3g?si=14UKrGSNxUVubvCV&t=37

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>>65388753
Twitchfags are so mindbroken by "react content" they can't fathom watching an original video/stream/whatever. And they call holochads mindbroken

>> No.65405792

>>65405733
I meant to say parasocial at the end. I am a monkey, prease undastand

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>>65405733
Holofags are so cucked by content ID they can't fathom being able to actually show what they're watching on stream when doing a live reaction.

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>>65405902

>> No.65407737

Nothing matters. We're all gonna die.

>> No.65407942

>>65352011
8k where watching the henya restream tho.

>> No.65409561

>>65352011
vshojo's only viewership is when they are doing react content or streaming with larger streamers
don't respond to me, i won't answer

>> No.65410770

>>65354595
>she
We have been over this countless of times

>> No.65410958

>>65362537
But then later down the line the WWE and everyone else inbetween tried to copy ECW and McMahon bought them out later on. Which company is the ECW of vtuber?

>> No.65413486

>>65352011
rip vshojo

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65413902

>>65352353
>Who in their right mind wants to watch *anything that isn't Hololive.

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>>65405733
My oldfag oshi spent two hours doing a spastic bit where she pretended to be a bunch of bizarre characters before revealing this outfit. Holoniggers are just so bad at finding talent you rely on Yagoo to do it for you.

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>>65352353
Hey, ironmouse can sorta sing.

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