Shachi = Petra (nijien)?

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>both aquatic. one orca and one penguin.
>both cute in nature.

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Does hers handwriting match?

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>>6520640
Do they have the same voice? I literally can't tell from the trailer
https://youtu.be/eqfFxdtsl6E

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>>6520640
Lol why the fuck shachi choose nijis?

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>orcas are cute
uhhh theyre the most terrifying thing imaginable
if you were swimming around in the same water as one of those beasts you would never call it cute

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>>6520767
holobronies are mad that someone chose the company that doesn't hire rapists as managers

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>>6521205
No Ichikara just hire rapist talent instead

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>>6520640
welp at least we won't have amegeddon 2.0

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>>6520767
She has a boyfriend, that's why.

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>>6520767
She has a boyfriend, doesn't she? Probably knows better than to go for unicorn central, even if she's not going to bring him up on stream.
>>6521287
And fire them when they find out, instead of waiting until the victim threatens legal action and then still just transferring the guy to another position.

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>>6521287
>>6521205
Rape is a myth

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>>6520767
confirmed boyfriend with pictures, no censors on his faces so Holobronies would have killed him or doxxed

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>>6521323
real question
do you guys think cover has a no boyfriend clause like idols in japan?

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>>6521470
>do you guys think cover has a no boyfriend clause like idols in japan?
I bet once they're hired it's highly discourged to talk about or bring bf's on stream. Why do you think that's never happened?

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>>6521470
It's not "think" if Matsuri literally said they could.
Now Cover doesn't have a clause for it, but the market forces do.

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>>6521328
>and then still just transferring the guy to another position.
Funny how nijiniggers keep saying that Narukami is full of bullshit when he makes shit up about Niji, but happily parrot his shit when it comes to hololive

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>>6521470
Cover was branding themself as an idol agency, which includes the psychotic fanbase. Wasn't there for it, but /vt/ will bring up how Towa's views tanked and got disliked bombed because a guy was heard in her background one stream.

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>>6521328
>>6521400
Gooruh also have bf but nothing happened

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>>6521620
I said confirmed, that means till this day retard and there's actual pictures no censors at all to prove it. She's better as a niji if she wants her bf to be safe

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>>6521685
Yeah tell that to Lulu. If you act like a cute girl online and amass a huge following you will ALWAYS get "those" people. She'd have to basically bring him in and fuck him on stream on her debut night to try to ward them off from the get-go, and that'd be too hot a take even for Anykara. They're not gonna cut off a bunch of potential gachikoi milking for her sake.

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>>6521571
kek
the current mindset of nijiniggers.

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>>6521287
Based.

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>>6521287
>>6521328
so both companies hire rapists but only nijisanji fires theirs?

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>>6522076
l*l*...
I miss her ASMR voice.

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We'll know if it's HER or not once we start seeing more of her drawings.

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>>6521606
part of it was because she lied about it too, still a shitty thing that happened but it was a double dose of bullshit.

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>>6523235
the youtube header picture not enough?

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>>6521606
To be fair, the psychotic fanbase came from the Idolbu fanbase after they bailed due to the Idolbu incident and they went to hololive.

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>>6523292
But elira sister also have that drawing on her banner soo..

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Did Shachi JUST private her Twitter? If so that confirms it

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>>6523694
Too fuckin late really.

The only way for people to not know about these kinds of things is to NEVER speak of them on any connected account to anything online because there are enough random people out there watching indies now speculating who's gonna make it that everything will be logged. Even if it's panic-deleted because there are various archives out there for social media they're never really gone.

So the only answer is to just never say it. If they can't help but talk about it openly because "fuck those incels lol" then they can't ever complain about it coming back to bite them in the ass. Which this will. Technically things said/done on vtuber accounts can bypass the IRL rule here (otherwise mods would have to ban you if a chuuba talked about what they ate for breakfast on stream etc) so if they're stupid enough to go give sensitive things out (or not understand the fanbase at fucking all so as to 'go there' and pretend like nothing's amiss) then that is on them.

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>>6520640
Shachi just closed her twitter. I think people are right on the money

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>>6524230
Eh, if anything, this just makes me more confident that penguin ISN'T shachi, because that'd be a stupid move.
This is my rrat, and nobody else may have it.

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>>6524230
Her VTuber twitter. Her main twitter (Shachimu) is still up and active.

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>>6524230
It's still public???

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>>6524230
This is a hivemind of many thousands of people from all over the fucking place with not a lot of limits on what to share and no eggshells to walk around trying to guard accounts/reputations. For all the people shit on about rrats, rrats as in pure speculation with reaching or no concrete relation are stupid, but speculation based on clear evidence can be pieced together reliably and double/triple (more like thousand+) de-facto looked over/fact checked here.

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>>6524369
Miki also privated her twitter at the same time as shachi

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>>6521571
I didn't know Narukami even said that. I based that on their own announcement on the matter last year.

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>>6521571
>>6524679
Because Narukami wasn't the one who made that up. He only leaked the Mel incident prior to it being almost completely private. After that, the "he was never fired" only comes from 5ch being mad that the apology wording doesn't explicitly say that, and Narukami just took it from 5ch.

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>>6524530
MY RRAT NOOOOOOOOOOO

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who's this shachi girl anyway?
t. new

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>>6521560
Basically yeah they don't have to put it in writing to do it anyway. Even if they have one, the idol culture still forbids it from ever being mentioned as it shatters kayfabe. They'll pry real fucking hard, dig through every little atom of your past they can find, they want you to open up like a book or they won't even bother with you. Then, just coincidentally, they won't hire any apps with current bf but of course won't actually ever say that's the reason. Idol fans, like actual ones in Japan, mights suspect or even assume many or most of them are dating and such but don't ever actually know it for fact. If an idol is getting kind of too old/long in the tooth they'll generally "pls just get married so you can retire" and so on.

Since a bunch of fucking idiots who know nothing about this culture are gonna come run their mouths about this probably for hours/days, let me fucking explain something. Yes there are idolfag unicorns who actually truly strive for purity in Japan, and would indeed be out the door in a nanosecond if it's confirmed BF etc. HOWEVER, really this isn't as nutty as it sounds when about 25% of Japan's female population are virgins in the 20-40 age range. That rate's only in fact been going up the last few years, not down. This is the essential part people really REALLY fail to fucking understand in the West - it's not that unrealistic of odds for them there; it might only require slightly deeper digging on the part of talent agencies to find ones that fit that angelic cherubic purity that seems just a laughable impossibility in the West. They as a people REALLY are that pure overall compared to Western standards/expectations, and without it being forced a some religious/puritan thing, making it even yet-harder for Westerners to comprehend. I wouldn't say they're better for this, they're just fucking different from us is all. I'd also say it's kind of sad that we're so jaded to just assume it is a totally impossible fairy tail and those people are out to lunch. They would be, in the West - not in Japan.

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So will Petra get a bunch of HERfags who rush to follow her like Gura did?

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>>6525541
Youtuber with 1 million subscribers that everyone thought was positive got into hololive EN2

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>>6525543
Depends on the talent, mainly. Think Fubuki and Matsuri. The first made it clear early that she wouldn't tolerate unicorns dictating her actions, and the second literally doesn't care.

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Her writing style is not even close to Shachi's
Seriously doubt it's her

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>>6525740
MY RRAT!
IT'S STILL ALIVE!

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>>6525671
mmm
why would cover not pick her up for holoEN 1 then?
I mean, if she applied for Niji, is fair to assume she also tried for Cover, right?

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>>6525798
what auditions came first?

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>>6525798
She probably didn't apply until after EN 1 auditions ended.

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>>6525671
She was written off the moment people found out she had a boyfriend.
Looking at her YouTube it was only a few vids that went viral and then the rest were around the 50k view range. Wheras Gura had EVERY video she made go viral .

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>>6525671
Her openly talking about a BF made me suspicious, like "Cover knew this would be found out yet went for it anyway, I guess they're sending a message or something" but now, nevermind, it all makes sense for a Niji. A few months ago I would have thought "lol why would they een accept a niji offer" but they do have a fair bit of clout over indies so it is still a very significant upgrade and still a pretty up-there 2nd-best outcome.

I was thinking it's possible that if Cover took her that they literally missed that critical tweet because it's in English and due to language barrier their ability to background search their apps can miss spots. Tere are gonna be fucking 10 NijiENs before the year's out though so all these sudden graduations wondering ".. where they fuck are they all going" now make sense. Anikara is gutting the talent pool before Cover can get to them. I think that's something people miss, it's their strategy. Even so however Cover has proven many times they can take the tiniest nobody and turn them into a legit star; they'll find a way. Actually I kind of like that idea more because all this constant tracking of indies on graduation watch reminds me of dorks poring over college football stats and I don't really like the notion everything can be carefully tracked/predicted.

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>>6525543
I think you'd be surprised at how many virgins there are in the west too.
Don't fool yourself if you haven't been to Japan yet. Girls will be slutty in all parts of the world and it only takes one trip to Shibuya or something to have that delusion shattered that your kawaii Japanese girl is a pure maiden desu.

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>>6525798
its also possible she simply preferred niji over holo, since the company cultures are different, at least on the jp side

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>>6526246
It's selection bias. If you go out into bars and clubs downtown at night in the West, most of them are gonna be filled with skanks because the ones who aren't into that sort of thing are all holed up at home playing MMOs or writing fanfics or whatever. You don't just go pick them up off the street, that is true there and here.

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>>6526285
NOOOOOO, SHE HAS TO PREFER HOLOLIVE OVER EVERY OTHER AGENCY

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>>6523546
drawing style is different and match the dragon matches others emotes

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>>6526131
That doesn't matter, Hololive is THE vtubing brand right now, there will always be talented people willing to join them. Nijisanji is something you go after when you failed Holo auditions now.

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>>6526497
Yeah I'm not contesting that, just saying it makes sense why she wound up there. Her handful of extant fans here seemed to just assume she's more than good enough for Holo and would be mad she didn't get in. It's not just all Holo tribalism so much as people who already like the person wishing she got a shot at 10x more fame/money because they feel she deserves it.

On the other hand, there's already stirrings suddenly about how shitty Miki is for leaving tsunderia and prophesizing she'll use Niji purely as a stepping stone to Holo.

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>>6526285
I'd say it's safe to assume the difference carries over to the en side as well, and I'd sure as hell go with niji myself if I was in this sort of situation. I don't think I'd be too out of line to say that a lot of possibly great picks may feel more attracted to nijien than holoen now that both are viable options (despite holo totally mogging them numbers-wise as of now).

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>>6520640
>Has a bf
dropped... I'll enjoy the hentai atleast

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>>6526497
both have a capacity to attract potentially great vtubers, hololive has the number advantage (among a few others) but the vaguely "freer" vibe of nijien could easily attract creative types if they don't care as much about big viewership from the get-go.

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>>6525798
1M sometimes isn't a measurement of success. They need to screen the person if she's sick in the head or something at first. So far, Cover recruited hard workers for their EN branch along with IRyS. Gura being somewhat lazy in terms of content is fair since she's more of an outgoing girl irl and despises social media.

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>>6526591
Spoonfeed me on Miki

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>>6525798
kiara is better

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>>6528259
>Gura
>outgoing girl
Do you even watch her?

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https://twitter.com/Petra_Gurin/status/1415182584598855683
Is shachi japanese?

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>>6528502
Someone will probably post a more full write up, but tldr she came in to Tsunderia with a full rig and original song, barely streamed and kept up her indie persona, then left after a few months,
Fwiw, based on the timing I'm pretty sure she just applied to both and then left when she found out she got into Niji. She doesn't have a history of doing that to my knowledge, unlike, say, Luna in Hololive who did.

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>>6528259
>rehearses her McDonalds order in the mirror
>outgoing
Anonchama, watch the streams...

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I was busy playing Ys IX since it just came out on PC. I had no idea this was happening. Did Nijisanji seriously just debut a new wave of EN with absolutely 0 hype or indication that it was going to happen? They keep surprising me with how incompetent they are, like my god.

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>>6528581
The tweet seems to be deleted but she does live in Japan

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>>6528574
>>6528657
Oh wait, fuck, I didn't know outgoing meant being socially confident. I don't know the word, but she strikes me as someone who has a lot of experience being outside than inside and being low-key after her gardening stream, cleaning or baker story. She also seems like a person who would join a choir.

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>>6528687
>Did Nijisanji seriously just debut a new wave of EN with absolutely 0 hype or indication that it was going to happen?
No, there was a bunch of hinting ever since the wave 1 announcement 2 months ago.

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>>6528718
another tick in the confirmation box then

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>>6528718
she hasn't lived in japan for years

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>>6528772
Outdoorsy is the word you're looking for then, and in that case yeah, she's made it pretty clear she's a country girl.
>>6528802
You think people here actually watch streams of the agencies they complain about? Hell, he didn't even look into what's happening right now or he would've seen it was an announcement, not a debut.

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>>6528894
Why would she delete the tweet stating her location then? Makes no sense.

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>>6528687
Retard there has to be an initial announcement. This is it. You rather they did the same thing but with a 12 hour countdown prior?

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>>6528934
There's no indication that her tweet was about where she lived. People delete tweets as often as they make them. You'd know if you used the site.

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>>6529054
>There's no indication that her tweet was about where she lived
So now you're just denying she ever lived in Japan? There's more tweets if you search it up asking about earthquakes and the like. Somebody also claimed she mentioned living there in her videos, but I don't feel like combing through them.

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>>6520640
It would be weird if she went to Niji instead of Hololive honestly, I would think she has what it takes to get in there.

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>>6529289
Maybe Holo wasn't her cup of tea or Cover was afraid of her boyfriend

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>>6520671
>>6525740
The Elira Negra is using the same thing

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>>6529289
What other perks the she has that separates others though? If she went to EN1, she could've gotten a spot from Kiara. But it's EN2, the ceiling is higher than last time and Cover could've chosen a better one than her. Which also reminds me that Niji auditions happened way before EN 2, she got to Niji first I think.

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>>6529503
Penguin literally tweeted about dark dragon stealing her banner.

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>>6520640
It's not her. It's a coincidence that Sachi and Miki's Twitters were privated on the same day, but it makes sense if you consider that HoloEN2 will debut later this month. It's just a nobody 2view who happens to live in Japan and have a soft voice.

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>>6532682
Yeah bro it's just a coincidence that Shachi lives in Japan like Petra
And privated her Twitter on the same day
And posts from an iphone like Petra and was actively posting during the same hours she was active
And liked this on Twitter

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>>6532739
Oh shit, niji has their own CEO of DOX?

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Petra just tweeted a bunch about how her Nijisanji oshi responded and followed her back and she is very happy. So unless Shachi hid her nijisanji obsession super well, it ain't her.

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>>6532739
The fuck. Is she trying to doxx everyone?

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>>6534183
>>6536980
That literally only doxes herself.

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>The fuck. Is she trying to doxx everyone?

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>>6525798
she has a boyfriend, it would be amegeddon 2.0 if she ended up in hololive
she can avoid this in nijisanji

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>>6538634
>amegeddon
wat

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>she has a boyfriend, it would be amegeddon 2.0 if she ended up in hololive
>she can avoid this in nijisanji

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>>6538805
Jesus fucking christ.

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>>6521287
No he is not a rapist, it's more of his 4chan style reply got find out.
He is a dumb cunt for not stay anonymous when saying something like that

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>>6520640
Finally a worthy opponent for Gura (and probably better singer than Gura)

[Anonymous No.]

GIVE ME THE RRRRRAAAATSSS

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>GIVE ME THE RRRRRAAAATSSS

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>>6532739
That's so cute. Are these all nijisanji references? I only recognize like ten.

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>>6529503
That art is familiar

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>That art is familiar

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>>6543991
Dokibird.