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No regrets?

>> No.65065707

ngl I liked her better in this form

>> No.65065894

>makes more monet
>has more freedom
>doesn't have to deal with japanese retardation

>> No.65065983

>>65065497
I don't know who this is.

>> No.65066003
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65066003

>>65065497
Zero

>> No.65066040

>>65065497
who is she now?

>> No.65066159

>>65066003
it wouldn't be worth it to go after them legally, but it seems criminal how they didn't even try to make their new models distinct. So blatant.

>> No.65066496

>>65065497
>more money
>can collab with males
>doesn't have to deal with perms
>discord with whales
The only downside is the new model that looks pretty bad.

>> No.65066611

>>65066496
>can collab with males
I know the whorse did, what about the rest?

>> No.65067129

Whorse model was better

>> No.65067182

>>65065497
what a downgrade what a dumb bitch

>> No.65067237

>>65066611
Mozzu kindly asked homobeggars to kill themselves
Airi knows that doing something like that would kill 90% of her viewers
and I don't think Spica is aware of the existance of males but she did a cover with a man before kawaii

>> No.65067301

>>65065497
I'm glad she made it more obvious she's a whore

>> No.65067492

>>65065707
I liked her new model better. Her whorse form looked too vanilla for my tastes.

>> No.65067942

>>65066159
I agree with the Mozzu looking like Sava and Elia looking slightly like Aletta but Spica doesn't even remotely look the same as Miryu though

>> No.65068388
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>>65065497
the most beautiful model in vtubing if you ask me. I still can't get over it propably because of the daki

>> No.65068610

>>65065497
CHICKEN BURGER

>> No.65068671
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65068671

Does she really make more money than this now?

>> No.65068686

>>65068610
NO CHIMKIN BORGAR

>> No.65068784
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>>65066040
Elia Stellaria from Vdere. Vdere consists of all the gen 3 members of Production Kawaii (except for Oceane) who simultaneously quit for reasons not fully explained by them.

>> No.65068965

>>65068671
Kawaii's corpo cut back then was attrocious so the answer is yes.

>> No.65069161

>>65065497
This Banana

>> No.65069179

>>65068965
>back then
it's still 50%. Maybe the girls will be able to renegotiate in the wake of idol publishing the 80/20 split and as a loyalty bonus.

>> No.65069240

>>65069179
lol

>> No.65069794

>>65069179
The other companies aren't jew enough for that, I doubt they are in the blue eeven at 50%, at 20% they are just paying to have a company.

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>>65069794
I know someone who's doing 80/20, but she's not exactly an economics wizard

>> No.65070007

>>65069794
>at 20% they are just paying to have a company.
well, in OPs case, that gave her the audience she has now
also nobody knows kawaii's cut

>> No.65070224

>>65070007
>nobody knows kawaii's cut
Nene has been clear it's 50%

>> No.65070635

>>65070224
so that's not even bad.

>> No.65070799

>>65069879
That retard couldn't even manage herself, let alone a whole company.

>> No.65071408

>>65070799
Don't worry, I'll manage her. If you know what I'm saying.

>> No.65071695

>>65069179
You think they can afford to cut their income that massively when they have 1 real worker and a bunch of deadweights?

>> No.65071755

>>65071695
They do have a big Japanese company backing them now

>> No.65072465

>>65068784
Oceane was obviously in it for the money and wasn't shy about it, building a private pay pig discord.

>> No.65072613

>>65068784
>Not fully explained.
They weren't explained at all - kawaii didn't allow them to even announce the graduations before they happened.

>> No.65072694

>>65068784
It's called solidarity

>> No.65073279

>>65072613
>kawaii didn't allow them
lol

>> No.65073293

>>65072613
From what I saw they asked to leave and already had stuff in the works for their other personas.
I don't trust corpos but I trust woman even less. Cases like this are always money related, and seeing that it was about a month after a big donothon makes it obvious.

>> No.65074760

I've been watching Kawaii's newest gen's sub count increase quite a bit since debut, Kaya in particular. It probably won't be more than a month before she passed Spica in subs.

>> No.65074817

>>65074760
subs don't matter when they still can't move past 2view

>> No.65075101

>>65074817
She got a Nerissa cameo the other day fwiw

>> No.65075403

>>65075101
based kawaii queens hanging out with holos and nijis

>> No.65077741

>>65065497
No but seething that Sava is mogging her

>> No.65078254

>>65069794
Idol has a cheat code: Israeli art grants and venture capital
Leave it to Jew corpo to figure out free money

>> No.65084163

>>65065497
model downgrade, but I like the new ones on the other girls more
>>65068784
They quit because Kawaii failed to act on Oc*ane's bullshit in a timely fashion and it got them fed up. Kawaii is a shit black company which literally had more graduations & terminations until they nepohired some girls from Discord to be gen 4.

>> No.65084394

>>65084163
Oceane didn't even do anything, you don't really trust what they said because 'haha i said it happened' do you?
It's all part of Nene's plan to make sure she stays on top since clearly gen3 was a massive threat to her.

>> No.65084601

>>65084394
I saw her doxxer fucks with my own two eyes. they were even literally here shitting on random vtubers and being nuisances everywhere(such as 4chan), including shitting up stream chats with dox info

>> No.65084684

>>65069794
>in the blue
It's in the BLACK, you esl faggot, learn your idioms.

>> No.65084732

>>65065497
Imagine watching trash garbos

>> No.65084796

>>65065983
She's a former small corpo that creamed herself on stream when Luca showed up in her chat.

>> No.65084872

>>65084796
Luca never showed up in her chat, it was Alban who's a nothingburger compared to Luca.

>> No.65085199

>>65065497
Who's this?

>> No.65085318

>>65065497
elia whore
nene whore

>> No.65085366 [DELETED] 

Traitor whore

>> No.65090463

>>65065497
Literally who?

>> No.65094863

>>65066003
That's some nice art/desing though.

>> No.65097066

>>65090463
Aletta sky. Ex-kawaii gen 3. I think she is the only one who is not nene who actually reached 100k subs in kawaii.

>> No.65101436

>>65078254
Ooh now I know how they manage to sustain themselves. Thank you anon

>> No.65103021
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TRAITORS!!!!!

>> No.65105006

>50% cut
>low quality and slow merch
>no ads
>no outfits, and they're not allowed to make their own outfits
>game perms are extremely slow
>had to hire their own clippers
Yeah I dont think she has any regrets. They were giving half of their money to a management that does literally nothing
They have better and cheaper merch now, they can buy ads, they join more events and do more collabs, they can still make high quality covers. Why would they regret anything?

>> No.65105376

>>65105006
I'm honestly surprised how good the current merch is. I own both their Kawaii and V-Dere merch, and the quality difference is evident

>> No.65105530

>>65065497
Absolutely none. She's still cute as a button.

>> No.65105598

>>65105376
corpo product vs passionate girls trying to make their fans happy
also I'm pretty sure kawaii only works with japanese manufacturers

>> No.65105667

>>65065894
Can you prove the first one? Less subs, ccv, and views. She would need at least half her members and 40% of her superchats from before to be making near what she made before to make up for the other things

>> No.65105748

>>65070635
It’s the exact same as hololive which is what they modeled everything after namely 2020 hololive

>> No.65105842

>>65070635
the bad part is the management not doing anything to warrant that 50%
there's a small skeb budget but that's it, hell they dont even buy ads, the girls use their own money to do that

>> No.65106001

>>65105006
>no ads
It’s really not helping her now
>no outfits, and they're not allowed to make their own outfits
First half is a lie second half is true. She passed 50k she was getting an outfit but hot take I’ve never liked secondary outfits except for Gura
>had to hire their own clippers
Wouldn’t she be doing that now?

I’ll be real you sound anti corpo because none of this is isolated to kawaii. The last one in particular is a skill issue just be entertaining so people will do it for free

>> No.65106020

i doubt it

kawaii taking 50% of >>65068671 this and then basically promising nothing in return

vdere will do their own donothon at some point

>> No.65106178

>>65106001
other corpos help their talents. kawaii takes a 50% cut, limits them with shit like game perms and other japanese corpo autism, and offers literally nothing in return. there's no reason to stay with kawaii
though I doubt that was the main reason. they probably left because of the buyout since the new CEOs want to focus on music/idol stuff and we know that no one in gen3 wanted to be a part of the idol project

>> No.65106185

>>65105842
Except for the models, Artist, outfits, merch, game perms, cover songs, producers and phones.

>> No.65106254

>>65106178
Give an example

>> No.65106606

>>65106185
>models
>artists
they managed to get their own models. they're from well-known artist and they're all higher quality than their kawaii models
>outfits
only if you're nene lmao. none of the others got a new outfit in 2 years. they implemented the points system fairly recently and even that is retarded, most corpos give their talents yearly/seasonal outfits. anyway they can do this on their own too
>merch
now they have higher quality, cheaper merch that doesnt take 2 years to produce and ship
>game perms
they dont need game perms now that they're not in a japanese corp. and kawaii sucks at getting game perms, Mozzu even complained about how slow and incompetent the management was about the perms while she was still in kawaii
>cover songs
they can, and still make, high quality covers
>producers
they're better at networking and promotion than the kawaii management. kawaii couldnt pull something like the operagx thing

so again, the management is useless. anything they do, the girls can do better and faster without losing half of their money

>> No.65107545

>>65106254
For example, I think kawaii would not have allowed Spica to set up her throne account. This means that the likelihood of her getting her current equipment, the Nord piano and her loop station would be close to zero. Spica would have also have a harder time making her current japanese translated covers. Imo those are borderline touching the grey area of copyright and any corpo would definitely not take such risks.

>> No.65108493

>>65106606
>they're all higher quality
Compared to their older ones this part is probably the biggest cope of the post. Specially for the one in the OP.

>> No.65108682

>>65107545
pretty sure kawaii gets permissions for covers so they cant cover anything they want

>> No.65110716

>>65065497
Is this one of the backstabbers who stole stuff from the previous corpo and made their own company?

>> No.65110785

>>65106606
>most corpos give their talents yearly/seasonal outfits
this is how I know that you are a retard that do not watch small corpos

>> No.65111046

>>65110785
When you are on a Holoboard, you live by Holo standard. No one here cares how bad other 2views are having it with their black companies

>> No.65113325

>>65065707
same
miss her

>> No.65113523

>>65113325
Benedict Arnold used to be a good guy too

>> No.65113995
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I don't think Elia has any regrets. She was able to capture a good amount of paypigs from the kawaii fold before her defection. Mozzu also seems to doing fine. The one I'm particularly not sure about is Airi. If you look at her streamlabs there are only 4 donors for the past week.

>> No.65114031

>>65113995
She hardly streamed last week because of the exams

>> No.65114146

>>65114031
Last week, yes, but she streamed this week twice (including an "I survived" stream) and released 3 ASMR videos as well this week.

>> No.65114148

I was fond of letti. Only non holo girl I watched but I don’t support traitors

>> No.65115040

>>65065497
They are way better off now then in kawaii. I am literally convinced kawaii will be shut down or sold off again. If the dumb fucking black corpo doesn't get with the program

>> No.65115583

>>65110716
yep

>> No.65115724

>>65115040
If kawaii was a black corpo it would not be able to hold onto 4 of its first gen talents for 30+ months. It also wouldn't be the only EN corpo other than Hololive to provide a live in-person 3D live.

>> No.65115761

>>65115040
>black corpo
>lets people leave no problem from a signed contract
roru retard

>> No.65115797

>>65115724
yeah nah its a black corpo

>> No.65115850

>>65115761
Yeah np at all wink wink everyone not drinking the party juice knows what production kawaii is >>65115797

>> No.65116465

>>65107545
No you said other companies help their talents while kawaii does nothing. Tell me what company does things that kawaii doesn’t

>> No.65116525

>>65106606
>Kawaii doesn’t do anything with that 50%
>Ok they do but the girls could do that alone so it doesn’t count anymore
Follow up question then why didn’t they do this before Kawaii? Why weren’t you watching them before kawaii?

>> No.65116545

>>65111046
Retard

>> No.65116755

>>65116525
I was watching Spica. I didn't like Gezu's midget model
the other two werent vtubers but I dont watch them anyway

>> No.65117066

>>65116525
>we gave you 50 to 100 viewers each so now you own us 50% of your earnings forever
>also you can't play what you want, you have to attend to meetings in JST timezone, you can't get outfits, you can't run ads, all your merch will be produced by japanese manufacturers, you have to do donothons, and eventually we will ask you to do a kickstarted to finance the 3d models we could've paid with the earnings of said donothons

>> No.65117222

>>65117066
>oh also you're idols now, i know we said you can ignore the idol project if you dont want to be a part of it but we sold kawaii to Culture Entertainment and they want idols

>> No.65117441

>>65117222
Shitting on idols seems par for the course for Vdere fans. You're getting the experience you wanted, I guess.

>> No.65117519

>>65117441
>Shitting on idols
where did i do that?

>> No.65117677 [DELETED] 

>>65065497
nice thread! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3e7gzC6Wm4

>> No.65119047

>>65117677
Yo she really hot tho

>> No.65119212

>>65065497
Which Uma Musume is this?

>> No.65119450

>>65117066
>>65117222
Outside of things you said being just wrong it just sounds like you hate hololive. Donothons is the only thing related to kawaii and I’m pretty sure they’ll be doing those themselves

>> No.65120193

>>65119450
the 50% cut a hololive talent gets is not the same as the 50% cut a small corpo girl gets, retard
also they get new outfits regularly and hololive didn't try to make them do a kickstarter to finance their 3d models (liet me remind you that they could've financed it with just their cut from the donothons alone)
and I think you are the only retard happy about the perm issues and the delivery time for merch in hololive, not just in the whole board but in general, including the girls

>> No.65120569

>>65119450
kawaii isnt hololive retard
this is like defending the retarded "you need 20k subs to unlock memberships" rule prism used to have because "hurr durr hololive has the same rule"

>> No.65121342

>>65065497
>Girls get more money for the same amount of work
>Fans get timely, higher quality, and less expensive merch
>Kawaii gen 4 was a total flop that is struggling to break 10k despite the supposed corpo buff that makes the cuts, rules, and goodgirl point system worth dealing with
Doubt vdere girls have any regrets

>> No.65121822

>>65073293
>already had stuff in the works for their other personas.
They didn't start working on other personas until after they told management they were leaving

>> No.65122034

>>65068671
I remember red dragon saying he sold his dad's car so he could donate more to her. Most paypigs aren't rich, just stupid. SAD!

>> No.65122449

>>65120193
>the 50% cut a hololive talent gets is not the same as the 50% cut a small corpo girl gets, retard
>also they get new outfits regularly and hololive didn't try to make them do a kickstarter to finance their 3d models
wow it is almost like hololive gets a lot of money while small corpos get a little money huh
and i bet you would bitch if the small corpo did take a 90% cut to fund that kind of shit

>> No.65122512

>>65122034
based elia, pump those simps for all that they are worth

>> No.65122614

>>65122034
>>65122512
Darkstar, not Red Dragon and not to Elia, but to Shee...

>> No.65122650

>>65122614
Shee eatin good tonight.

>> No.65122756

>>65122614
she finna eat da nice fried chicken

>> No.65122859

>>65122449
but they don't

>> No.65123429

>>65122756
Charzu finds this comment offensive.

>> No.65125535

>>65119212
that's a whorse, not an uma musume

>> No.65127574

>>65120569
>I hate it because I hate it

>> No.65132497

>>65065497
?

>> No.65137712

>>65065497
The bad guys won

>> No.65139516

>>65137712
Nijisanji won?

>> No.65144187

>>65103021
A bit generic but wasted models are still a waste.

>> No.65148653

>>65065707
same man

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