Are you going to apply, anons?

[Anonymous No.]

Your main job description will be to manage multiple neurodivergent woman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908691
> bullshit your way into the job
> dm a dick pic to all of them
> ghost the job

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908691
Picrel

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908691
You couldn’t pay me enough to do that job. I’d rather dig trenches with my bare hands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908691
Fuck no. I've worked as a manager and managing women is fucking impossible.
>Do a thing
>Nooo, I can't do a thing
>Why?
>Because I can't do a thing!
>But why? Do you understand how to do a thing?
>Do you think I'm an idiot? Of course I know how to do a thing!
>Can you show me?
>Shows how to do a thing and does the thing wrong
>Okay, let me help, you made a small mistake here
>*get called by HR later for mobbing*
Situation #2
>Don't do the thing
>Okay, I won't do the thing
>Great, can I trust you will not do the thing?
>Of course! Who do you think I am?!
>*she did the thing*
I also worked as a helper with a barn animals inseminator and let me tell you - it's easier to get a rowdy mare pregnant than to reason with a woman.

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>>64908915
Kek. Yep.
Managed three women in the past and all 3 were different kinds of impossible.
First girl had absolutely no willingness to learn, I could find multiple different ways to explain and she'd tell me "Fuck off I know what I'm doing every time." She got moved to an entirely different department after a project was late because companies are too pussy to fire these days.
Second girl thought she was too good to need a manager, slacked off till the last day despite numerous reminders, came crying and begging me to extend the due date, despite it being completely out of my hands, then I get reported to HR for being too harsh? Thankfully HR isn't filled with incompetent people and found her ass lying.
Third girl was a real shame, she tried honestly but was just too slow. If I were the one to set deadlines, she'd probably be able to make it, sadly she too got moved to another department. I sincerely hope that one is doing well while the first two can rot.

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>>64908691
Kaela if you reading this blurry picture is easy, just put piece of scotch tape or clear plastic over the infrared sensor without touching. Empasis on over but not touching, tricks the auto focus.

[Anonymous No.]

I could make Gura stream

[Anonymous No.]

i would genuinely give working for cover a go if i knew how to speak japanese. it seems like it would be more interesting than what i currently do, which i give zero fucks about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64909274
Yeah we know, stop posting here and get your ass to stream Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908915
are you westerner?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64909410
Yes, I live west of SEA. I even live west of India. I even live west of Moscow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908915
>>64909129

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908691
Just a little more info from the TikTok stream happening right now.
Apparently she ran around the room to get the photo and got a lot of side eyes from the JP staff

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908915
That's not even a woman thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>64909528
What the F is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64909688
A mistake

[Anonymous No.]

lol managers are poor :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>64909328
This is a sign for you to do the JP reps. Why wait?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908691
Don’t forget that they’re also entitled millionaires!

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908915
>I also worked as a helper with a barn animals inseminator and let me tell you - it's easier to get a rowdy mare pregnant than to reason with a woman.
the answer is right in front of you anon, the answer is to get the woman pregnant

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908691
And you work for a japanese company too. Meaning you got a small pay, need to contantly lick your seniors and superiors, get drunk everyday, while 24/7 babysitting those weirdos.

[Anonymous No.]

kaela would be such a cute gf..

[Anonymous No.]

>apply to be a manager
>get assigned to random Holomem #82
>work hard to try to keep them happy
>get swamped with game requests
>spend 18 hour days making constant phone calls and sending out emails to try to get permissions via the absurd Japanese legal system
>girl I manage goes on stream and complains about how hard it is to get her manager to do anything
>simps on /vt/ call me incompetent and lazy
>I say fuck it and quit
>”durr hurr why is Cover so le badly managed”
>bonus points if I had to be a manager for a menhera back biting shrew like Kiara

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908822
dick pic is so not worth it anon, they've all seen hundreds of strangers dicks online just by existing already, be more original, send a pic of your biggest shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908844
Holy based

[Anonymous No.]

>>64911905
>spend 18 hour days making constant phone calls and sending out emails to try to get permissions via the absurd Japanese legal system
Weird how all the other jap corpos manage to get perms just fine

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908844
bonus point.
your talent runs around the office like an autistic child.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908691
>Job type/Recruitment position name
Hb3-1 [Lead] Talent Manager (Indonesia)
>Employment status: full-time employee
>salary: Annual income 5 million yen - 8 million yen
>*Preferential treatment will be given according to our company regulations, taking into consideration skills, experience, and abilities.
>*Bonus twice a year (linked to performance)

Are these benefits worth it for tardwrangling Indonesian women?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64913141
How the fuck are Japanese companies bad to work for? Holy fuck, they need a new excuse, black companies my arse. Thats some sweet benefits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64913662
The whole 'japanese work culture is horrific' thing is decades out of date at this point
Black companies still exist sure but are not any more common than in other countries

[Anonymous No.]

>>64913141
holy shit thats a good deal

[Anonymous No.]

>>64913141
Required Skills

Native-level English, business-level Japanese or above
Ability to flexibly respond to talent's working hours
Practical experience in interpersonal negotiations, such as sales and management
Ability to handle sensitive and confidential information

Nationality is not a requirement! Over 80% of current team members are non-Japanese.

Please submit resumes in both Japanese and English.

Preferred Skills

Work experience in the entertainment-related industry
Analytical ability for assessing talent, channel situations, and performance

Desired Personal Qualities

Alignment with our company's mission and values
Ability to value teamwork
Proactive thinker who can take initiative
Ability to handle miscellaneous tasks and details diligently, sincere and straightforward
Love for games and anime, understanding of what kind of projects would make users happy
Interest in Japanese culture and pride in spreading it worldwide

[Anonymous No.]

>>64914268
>Over 80% of current team members are non-Japanese.
That explains so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>64909462
didnt this guy scouted a minor and at least couple of well known whores to join the corpo in the early days?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64914389
And it worked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64913141
I wish I had gotten into administrative work or management. In IT I do the same amount of tardwrangling and interrogation for less money and I don't even get to talk with cute girls...

[Anonymous No.]

>>64915223
You will also be the the one everyone blames for shit going wrong, especilly when it's caused by tehcnologically illitirate people. I can think of no job more msierable than IT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64912260
Do they? From what I've seen, Niji and Prism aren't any better when it comes to getting perms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64912107
>Kobo replies back with her own
>it's bigger than yours

[Anonymous No.]

Do (you) think that talent managers complain to each other about whoever they have to manage?
Which talent do (you) think gets the most hate from management?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908691
Kaela inner rebel spirit is rising

[Anonymous No.]

honestly I would attempt to wrangle Kaela for free, getting to interact with her 24/7 would be payment enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908691
Being a chuuba manager sounds like a bullshit job like most of HR

[Anonymous No.]

>>64916050
For an indie maybe, for a big corpo fuck no. There's tons of rules and regulations that the chuuba isn't aware/doesn't care to learn and the manager is there to enforce them/remember the talent about them. They are essentially a middle man between the talent and the rest of the org, letting the talent focus on their performance while dealing with the dull paperwork.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908844
Kaela is a gem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64915654
>Which talent do (you) think gets the most hate from management?
Gura's manager, this isn't even a question.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908691
>>64908844
>>64912487
I glossed over her, but she might actually be more autistic than Suisei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64916824
What are you talking about? Kaela is a perfectly
neurotypical individual

[Anonymous No.]

>>64913141
>>64913662
>join japanese company
>you are expected to pour alcohol for your bosses/senpai during parties
>you are also expected to remove the skewers off barbecue so it's easier to eat
>everyone in the company expects the newcomer (You) to offer to get the check
>plus some other unwritten Japanese work culture shit
fuck that

[Anonymous No.]

>>64917313
Gaijin privilege is they will assume I don't know I'm supposed to do any of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64915599
Hot.

[Anonymous No.]

Never understood the appeal of Kaela. Her model is ugly and her voice is disgusting and mannish.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64917832
I'm sorry for your terminal case of "the gay."

[Anonymous No.]

>>64917832
Her arms are twigs but she has the appeal of coldness and gap moe

[Anonymous No.]

>>64915593
Niji had konami perms a year or more before holo and managed to get permanent perms for any mainline pokemon games meanwhile holos are restricted to only playing pokemon games when a new one is released and are forced to do a shitty tournament for it on niconico after, and then aren’t allowed to play any pokemon games afterwards

[Anonymous No.]

>>64911905
We found gura's ex-manager everyone, good fucking riddance You incompetent fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>64917298
imagine the sex

[Anonymous No.]

>>64917862
>is attracted to the most mannish “woman” in Indonesia
Careful with that projection, faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64918289
Tomboys are the best

[Anonymous No.]

>>64917953
Niji is FAR better at perms, simply because they don't have the same level of retarded autism as Cover. Like, if a dev puts up a page saying "yes, you can play this game, no, you don't need to ask", they accept that they can play the game, and they don't need to ask. Meanwhile, Cover will completely ignore that, and will annoy the devs until they send over a personal copy that says "Yes, Hololive can play this game, No, Hololive didn't NEED to ask". It can take days, weeks, months, maybe even YEARS, but they WILL wait and waste everyone's time, simply because they're stubborn retards who refuse to use perms that aren't specifically addressed to them.

Also, to add to what >>64917953 said, they also have better perms for Nintendo. Hololive isn't allowed to play ANY Nintendo games on members-only. Hell, until recently, they weren't even allowed to play Nintendo games WITH members. Meanwhile, Nijisanji has never had this issue. Mario, Zelda, Pikmin, Pokemon, all is apparently fair-game on members-only. They also apparently have permissions to use Capture Cards for DS/3DS games, even though hardware mods break Nintendo's streaming TOS.

Also, music. Hololive shits itself in terror at the mere THOUGHT of playing a game with licensed music, and will either force them to mute, or just straight-up refuse to let them play it, and even in unarchived karaokes, they'll stop talents from singing certain songs. Meanwhile, Nijisanji has members playing Just Dance and Beat Saber, singing along with the radio in GTA, and doing entire karaokes with nothing but Disney songs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64918929
Niji isn't relevant enough to have their own Great VoD purge like Hololive went through.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64918929
Nijiniggers are the ones who snitch about perms
Of course they won‘t attack their own corp

[Anonymous No.]

>>64917313
How do I say it properly...I don't care. I don't mind helping out a coworker or gifting/treating him to something if we are on good terms, otherwise no, like you said, fuck that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64918474
I wouldn't call her a tomboy, she is just a mannish woman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908691
I wish I studied japanese in school instead of spanish. What a fucking waste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64921720
Lo siento, hermano.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64921641
That is called a tomboy, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>64921875
urusai, chilango

[Anonymous No.]

>>64921908
not even close, but hey you keep being a faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>64912487
My nephew is autistic, chasing after an autistic kid is not fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64922021
You too, anon!

[Anonymous No.]

>>64913141
>>salary: Annual income 5 million yen - 8 million yen
35k - 55k. Depending on where you live, 35k could keep you afloat...

[Anonymous No.]

>>64922032
how fat are you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908691
How could mchan not answer this, the answer is to get the camera to focus when farther away from the thing you want to take a picture of, then quickly move closer and take the picture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64922808
As Kaela always says, why do something easy when you can do it the hard way?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64922925
Well she got the quick portion down pat

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908691
No, I hate women,
Then again hololive managers have a lot of leeway, remember Mel’s?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908691
How to take a blurry photo:
Turn the focus on your lens to the lowest distance possible, take photo with no AF enabled.
Ez.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64916742
>check once a week "are you gonna stream?"
>no answers, no plan, no game perms to work on or projects to catch on

it's almost like paid vacation why even hate? I bet holomanagers fight over that position. But potentially no bonus tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64925125
> remember Mel’s?
The one who was fired for trying to meet her at her house after hours when she was clearly uncomfortable with it?
That’s the opposite of “leeway,” anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64914268
>no requirement for indonesian
eh

[Anonymous No.]

>>64925130
That's not natural blur.

[Anonymous No.]

I would guess that your interviewer at Cover will ask (you) this behavioural question:

Imagine that today is your first week in the office. Suddenly, your talent sends you a 6 sections proposal at 4 in the morning.

You are awake at the time. What would (you) do?

[Anonymous No.]

I have lead a section in the military, but I'm not sure if I could handle one (1) chuuba.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64913141
That's like 50k usd on the top range. Isn't that really good for Indonesia? It's even decent for Japan. About a third of what I make in the US though, no thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64913141
>5 million yen - 8 million yen
that is honestly kind of shit if you live inside a large city in NA. It's pretty alright if you live in Eastern Europe, SEA or outside urban areas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908691
>neurodivergent woman
anon, you are not getting that job if you put as a reference ntr connect or cyber pimp lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>64930337
>>64930538
That's before the fact that you need to live in Tokyo. One of the most expensive cities to live.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64930787
Managers aren't remote?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64931114
>Work location will be an office in Tokyo. Applicants must be able to commute to an office in Tokyo during the application stage.

This is an on-site job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64931715
bro this is poverty tier wage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64916824
>Ah M-chan I finished all the games we had permissions for last week
>Yes your name is M-Chan now get some help ok so perms...
>I think will do two 12 hour streams tomorrow and one short 6 hour MC
>Yes I will do it one day by folding space/time so I need new game perms now...
>Also deliver this severed horse head to Kay Yu he needs to update Holocure

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908691
>>64913141
Looks like they are finally dropping the free reign homo collab shit and are going to more carefully manage the girls
Makes sense, the fact that ollie has been giving 2views the answers to bypass covers application process for awhile meant that she was not being watched by managers

[Anonymous No.]

>>64930787
Tokyo isn't that expensive, I feel like that is out of date info. A lot cheaper than my US city anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64931715
lol, lmao even
The best part is any fag who applies hoping to get in with his oshi is going to end up being a manager for some random Holostar while only seeing A-Chan and Nodoka maybe once a month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64917313
I will simply pretend I am too American to understand their autistic traditions and they will be too polite to correct me

[Anonymous No.]

>>64933113
>Makes sense, the fact that ollie has been giving 2views the answers to bypass covers application process for awhile meant that she was not being watched by managers
what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64921641
>I wouldn't call her a tomboy, she is just a mannish woman.
i wouldn't call you a faggot, just a dude who is mentally, physically, and spiritually addicted to sucking cock

[Anonymous No.]

>>64914348
Well, it's recruitment for a position in ID management team. It makes sense that most of them aren't Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64929310
Respond to it by acknowledging the talent. Take the time to read over the proposal and its finer points. Vet the parts I can and summarize anything I can’t in an email to my supervisor. Assure my talent feels heard and acknowledged, and then engage her in small talk about something else to distract her from her proposal if she’s a chaotic talent like Kobo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64913141
>babysitter subsidy system
I know that's not what they meant, but the managers themselves are the babysitters in this case

[Anonymous No.]

>>64930787
>Tokyo is expensive
Maybe if you’re indog lol. It’s cheaper in Tokyo than it is in a small NA city.

[Anonymous No.]

Alright, let's say that tardwrangling Indonesian women is not your thing. But, there are EN manager vacancy.

See other COVER Corp. vacancies here: https://cover-corp.com/en/recruit/career

[Anonymous No.]

>>64933847
I would honestly be fine with managing a (low-drama) holostar. We’d just chill and be bros and I’d pull whatever strings I could for him. Would be way chiller than being a manager for an unhinged woman child and I’m sure I’d still get to chat with other talents on occasion. If you think you’re going to date someone you’re managing you’re fucked in the head.
That said unfortunately Holostars isn’t perfect either, I’d be pissed if I got an ungrateful prick like Vesper or Magni.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64911905
There's only one perms guy and he's on vacation
This is not a joke

[Anonymous No.]

>>64934488 (cont.)
https://hrmos.co/pages/cover-corp/jobs/1114-2

The benefits are the same as in >>64913141
The requirement is the same as in >>64914268
Except for the salary, it's slightly lower than that of ID Managers.
>Annual salary: 4 million yen to 7 million yen
Maybe it's because of the position (ordinary EN talents manager vs. lead ID talents manager)?

Also, here's what EN talents manager do:
>Motivation care for talent
>Management of goals and schedules
>Coordination with the staff in charge of each department within the company
>Attendance at advertisements, events, etc.
>Equipment support and trouble-shooting
>Support for distribution planning

Can (you) do it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64932206
>5-8M yen
Nah, looks like around / a bit above average tech job salary. Around the lower range of a senior dev's salary according to Glassdoor. It's not that bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>64934857
Yes. I want to be Mori’s Manager.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64930337
>>64931715
that's like basic salary tier if you reside in tokyo, honestly if you are a bilingual with some decent work history you will have no problem finding a job with better pay

[Anonymous No.]

>>64935060
dude, that is 35k-55k USD range. that's pretty much a janitor's wage, I make 59k at my entry-level right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64934029
That anon was exaggerating a bit.
The TRex homo said that he has a spy in Hololive (people suspected it was Ollie) and this Holospy gave him advices on what to say during audition. Said he wouldn't have passed the audition if not for that.
It's more likely to be like one of those "50 Google / Amazon's interview questions" "secret documents" that people spread around than a "Hey, if you say this, you will surely get in".

[Anonymous No.]

>>64935372
In Japan? US pays really well for tech jobs but outside of the US, 59k annual is pretty decent for an entry level job. You must be working in a desirable field or a good MNC, I suppose?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64935787
Just a code monkey for an MNC, is the PPP in Tokyo that much better?
I do wonder if the 5-8M yen is the salary range or starting salary depending on skill level. If there is no room for promotion, it's definitely more of a bounce pad, but even then, the requirements are kinda high for such a position.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64934276
You're attracted to a mannish woman, anon. That doesn't make you a total faggot. Just a little bit of a faggot.
You don't need to be so defensive. No one took your oreos from you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64935540
how does anyone know about this? who watched the faggot in order to learn of such a thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64918929
This is just how it is when you are relevant. The companies actually care. If you are irrelevant they dont give a shit, i doubt all those twitch streamers ask nintendo for perms and niji is probably the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>64934857
>Motivation care for talent
that explains why management rotates quite often.
>>64935540
>advices on what to say during audition
that only works if they hire a 3rd party company to do the auditions which is not uncommon for a big company but it does contradict what the older holojp members said about being able to watch the process, you usually dont have that option.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64937398
Anon, you do realize Niji is BIGGER than Hololive in Japan, right? Hololive is the 'irrelevant' one here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64937642
He's 100% a Mythtard who didn't know any vtubers except Kizuna Ai before 2020.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64935540
>The TRex homo said that he has a spy in Hololive
Damn, I should start watching him so I can get my easy in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64934857
>>Motivation care for talent
LOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>64913141
>Are these benefits worth it for tardwrangling Indonesian women?
so far yeah, but i wonder what's the catch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908844
NICE DOUBLE DOUBLES THERE CHAMP

[Anonymous No.]

>>64916742
No, Gura is pretty much untouchable. I think they let Gura do whatever she wants and have completely given-up on tardwrangling.

It's like the Sana situation, but unlike Sana, Gura makes them lots of money and they can't afford to play hardball with her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908691
>Hiring lead talent manager
Shouldn't those positions be filled by their own worker by promotion what happened to the other manager lol its probably for ID4 tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>64909274
I could too, using my cock

[Anonymous No.]

>>64922032
I know that pain

[Anonymous No.]

>>64912487
A good manager delegates, that’s why you start tricking the talents into wrangling the other autistic talents. It’s like getting older kids to look after younger ones. There was a stream recently where Kobo was just wandering around Mori’s house, yelling for help from downstairs, thundering up and down the stairs, and jumpscaring her in a subsequent stream. Fucking hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64913141
>Tfw you make more than Holo managers
No wonder they seem iffy in how much shit they can actually get done. If Gura's manager is making peanuts he is not gonna put all his effort into handling her fucking retarded ass. Albeit that is actually a lot of money for anyone living in Indonesia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908691
how do i become Haachamas manager? i want the brain damage.....

[Anonymous No.]

>>64930787
I would live like a king with the 80k in Tokyo. Even if I only made 50k in Japan, my quality of life would be much better. Don't let american salaries fool you, I just got a 5% raise but my healthcare and car insurance premiums ate all of it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64927390
He didn't get fired.
He was moved to a different job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64927390
Oh and Mel had to use a lawyer to get this result after stopping her activity for some time and not receiving support from hololive.
The lawyer suggestion was from a friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908915
>managing women is fucking impossible
Sounds like a you problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>64944700
what site is that from?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64943616
5,000,000 Japanese Yen equals
34,871.25 United States Dollar (although it fluctuates from day to day, also CoL in Japan is lower than most States)
34,871.25 USD for a 40H work week is $16.77/H.
Although that's working full time, and this job gets 125 fucking annual holidays which is insane (an entire summer vacation)
There are 260 workdays in a year - subtract 125 days for your holidays.
If we adjust for that, a 5M JPY salary is $258.3/day or $32 an hour. I have no fucking clue how 32 USD an hour is considered "peanuts"
And that's the base wage. If you're making 8M that's $55,796/135 or $51 an hour. I doubt you're making that and shitposting on /vt/.
Yes, a salary of 34k USD is not impressive at all, and a salary of 55.8K isn't really mind-blowing either.
But for the amount of vacation days you get? You can live very fucking nicely in Tokyo for 5M a year and you can enjoy it too because you get an entire summer vacation.
I'd take a similar job without a second thought if it was offered to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64944872
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/

[Anonymous No.]

>>64934375
Thanks, chatGPT. Good response.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64913662
>>64914097
>>64930538
i've lived in tokyo for 9 years, here's a bit of perspective.
5-8 million a year is OK, it's not bad at all.
a fresh grad from university entering a company doing office work typically gets a little less than 5m a year.
8m is really good.

so let's say you get the 5m package. that's about 400k a month. after deductions (pension, insurance, tax, etc) your bring-home money is probably around 250k.

first you look for a place to rent.
if you're solo and ok with a single "one room" unit (the kind you typically see in manga and anime where it's basically a rectangle, with a kitchen sink in a corner, and a door leading to a bathroom+shower) that'll cost about 70k around the popular areas like shinjuku, shibuya; probably about 25 meters squared. very fancy places can be about 100k for a little bit more space.
if you're willing to stay a bit out of the way from the city centers, you can easily get similarly sized rooms for 50k.

your bills probably won't go over 10k a month.
meals, even if you eat out, can be as cheap as 500-800 yen per meal, so 3 meals = 1500~3000 yen a day.
that's 50k~90k a month for basic eating-out food.
you save way more if you cook.
as a matter of perspective, a can of coke is 100 yen.
a box of bento meal (with rice, meat, veggies, etc) is 400~500 yen.

public transportation is great. you don't need a car to live in tokyo. (or most other cities in japan)
commuting to work is fine.
LOTS of companies do flex hours these days so you can easily avoid train congestion.
your company will also pay for your train fares; you buy a monthly pass for a specific route and your company pays for the pass. you can use the pass on your off days for free transportation to anywhere within the pass' covered route.

every year the company sends you for a complete health check up. this is mandatory in all companies and they pay for it.
if you get sick or fall ill, you call 119. the ambulance comes and brings you to the nearest available hospital. (and yes they don't charge you)
if you're properly hired as an employee, you will be covered by the national health insurance.
visits to the clinic for random small things will cost 1000~1500 yen for consultation. another 1000+ for basic drugs (like nsaid or something)

the drinking party culture is still alive and strong and for most people it's something they enjoy and are proud of.
your coworkers and managers will invite you for a drink after work and you all go to a cheerful izakaya as a group and just chit-chat and pass around drinks and food.

>>64917313
typically the menial tasks of reserving a restaurant, ordering food, pouring drinks are given to fresh-grad hires; specifically young people who just graduated university and entered the company as a new shakaijin (usually called shinsotsu)
if you're employed as a mid-career professional you won't be bothered with such tasks.

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>>64946132
I was going to write up CoL in Tokyo; this post is pretty much perfect though.
5M and you get to live in Japan, doing a job you (hopefully) enjoy. Really not a bad deal.
They're willing to pay 8M too so that's easily achievable if you're doing well on your performance reviews.
It's not a six USD figure tech job but honestly if I was making like 6.5 or 7M JPY a year with the vacation days and benefits offered, I would take it.

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>>64946132
oh yes i'll add that part about vacation days.
most jobs i've seen start at 10d a year. it goes up by 1 each year, so 11d a year, then 12d, then 13d, etc.
some companies start at a higher number, some give higher increments each year.
you can carry your unused vacation days forward, but usually they expire after 2 or 3 years (HR will usually notify you to use them up before you lose them)

there's no such thing as sick days. if you're forced to take a day off because of health reasons, your vacation days just get deducted.
but i've had an unfortunate stretch of illnesses one time where i had to take almost 2 weeks off, but my manager was kind and just waved it off.
i don't know how statistically rare kind managers are but i've been very fortunate so far.

i've also had an occasion where i had to be absent for a day but i didn't have any more vacation days banked, and they just deducted 1 day's worth of salary from my payroll. it kinda hurt but i guess that's the price i had to pay.

but if you're employed as a full-time employee (seisha-in) your employment is really safe, things have to be really really really really horrible for your employer to have a good legal justification to fire you.
i've never been worried about losing my job security because of my illness.

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>>64946132
200k JPY of disposable income after taxes, pension, national health insurance, rent and general living cost? That's actually not bad at all. Thanks for sharing, anon.

I did my own research. As a lead talent manager to HoloID (you) will be earning more or less the same salary as an assistant professor at the University of Tokyo. Not bad.

Note that assistant professor is the most junior tenured position at a typical university.

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>>64920588
More like Nijisanji got proper perms right off the bat, hell one of their girls graduated because they had no Nintendo perms, so they got them and she came back.
Cover thought it was slick and had its girls stream all kinds of shit without perms, then they flew to close to the sun and got fucked, and it almost got Mio killed as a result.
Cover are absolute kings at failling into piles of shit and coming out smelling like roses.

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>>64946132
So you get to live in a hovel with no yard, can’t drive a car, and don’t get to own guns.
What a fucking shithole.

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>>64946892 (me)
Edit: I did my maths wrong. Its not 200k of disposable after deducting rent, living cost and kthee mandatory deductions. It's actually 100k JPY.

Its okay, I guess... Its enough play money to splurge on hobbies once in a while with some money left to save every month.

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>>64947402
b-but Japanese pussy!!!

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>>64947955
this but unironically
life changing shit

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>>64948231
Your pussy will ask you for zero interest loans from time to time tho.

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>>64948231
>fucking yellow ching chong bing bong monkeys
Hahahahaha no fucking way.

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>>64908691
I want to manage the kinostars

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>>64908691
She seems cute, I think I may have a chance

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>>64946132
Interesting that the prices are just so low there, I guess the decades of stagflation / deflation etc wind up doing that because those sound kind of like 90s US prices and we have inflated far far past that. Mind you that is 90s California prices which is what I know, and our higher cost of living might be vaguely similar to Tokyo's.

It's weird because while it may be nice -for there- you while you're there, if you come back stateside you would have to really dig hard in saving up to have an even semi-decent wad of cash. Then again exchange rate has hit clownworld status lately and for a decade+; I generally thought of it being 100-110 to 1 range. It's more like 150 to 1 now. I already noticed it is so weird to me that shit actually has gotten much cheaper for me to buy from Japan lately, because they just don't really get inflation on their products much and the exchange rate made the USD into godzilla money for them now.

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>>64913141
I'm a bit autistic so I can relate with them

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>>64913141
This is why Yagoo is best girl

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>>64937398
It’s not relevance so much as having schizo fans of the other company mass reporting you for every little slip up. The guy you’re replying to is ignoring that because he’s on the side that’s doing it.

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>>64943741
Sign up for JP, they use older talents like Haachama to train new managers. Ayame is also an option if you want to take it easy, Suisei and Towa are harsh taskmasters.
>>64944728
He did get fired, it’s just that they can’t erase her personal info from his memory, so he started stalking her.

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>>64947046
You mean Cover did what most streamers, independent and corporate, do, except they have nutcases who hate them enough to report it.

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>>64917564
>>64921282
>>64933921
>>64946132
that was just my poor attempt at referencing usseewa's lyrics don't think too hard about it

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>>64946132
>currently paying 180000 yen for a shitty 1 bedroom
I might have been ripped off

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>>64949502
I would unironically simp for Kobo if she was my gf tbqh senpai

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>>64954873
Honestly? Very likely. I can find 50 square m 2DK gaijin rentals for like 140-170k, in Tokyo.
180k is insane, especially if it's a longer term lease.

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>>64955363
Did use to be cheaper before they suddenly hiked the price by 30k and it is admittedly a nice location
Still all those apartments for gaijins companies rip you off like crazy and I‘m glad that I‘ll be out of tokyo soon

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>>64944993
Don't be dumb. You didn't properly read the definition of holidays. Holidays include Saturdays and Sundays, so mark out 112 of your holidays.

The 13 other holidays probably revolve around Christmas, Golden Week, etc.
It's 240 working days in total.

365-125 =
240 working days

34871.25/240 =
$145/day

(Assuming 8 hour workday)
145/8 =
About $18/hour.

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>>64909271
woudnt be easier to just vivrate your hand slightly as to make the focus fail?
also, use the function of 4 at the same time, saves time

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>>64934857
have done some counceling, teaching, and public service
the WORST most job like this is COORDINATION
you would think paying adult will want thing in time and form, NO
they will be lazy, distract themselves, let deadlines get tight and get thing wrong
Basicly you a babysitter for kinder kids (adults) now -.-
if you can manage being at the top of thing in full stress OR have a way for people to do what you say you can do it
otherwise wont advice it, you will learn why public servics are for masochist
and no matter how good pay is

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>>64944700
yap, that is the thing world wide
America is like "pay big buck" but have to expend it all fast
most other countries including 2nd and 3rth will pay in moderate amount, but need to care about less, electronics in japan are cheap and south american have food pretty cheap in comparison
that is WHy when seeing "standars of living" you Take OUT the GDP
because the GDP meant SHIT when the goverment use it fot war weapones ALL THE TIME
how is that supose to count for "standar of living"?

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>>64937642
You're living in 2020 nijisis, that isn't the case anymore. If anything, Hololive is bigger with a wider age demographic appeal.

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>>64947955
>>64948231
You aint getting any pussy with brown skin

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>>64915817
*unicorns need not apply

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>>64958238
Bro you're having a stroke, call an ambulance

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>>64937642
AND OTHER HILARIOUS JOKES NIJINIGGERS TELL THEMSELVES

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>>64955363
> 50 square m 2DK gaijin rentals for like 140-170k, in Tokyo
fucking where
everything above 25 sqm is like 200k on all the big sites

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>>64921198
they don't need to do that, j00t00b has automated systems in place.

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>>64922207
maybe he just hates chillains I certainly do

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>>64955887
>About $18/hour.
not even if menhera babysitting was the only job.

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>>64955887
Japan has 16 public holidays - so 13 is way too low

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>>64959178
Here's a 38M 2DK for 120k in Shinjuku
https://kaguaruoo.com/en/listings/12107
This one's a bit north of Shinjuku in Nishi-Waseda, 123k for 35M.
https://kaguaruoo.com/en/listings/13145
Here's a 70M 3LDK for 150k, granted it's a bit out of the way in Adachi.
https://kaguaruoo.com/en/listings/12411

This one is a bit more questionable, and you have to live in the commuter hell that is Kawasaki, but it's 105K
https://kaguaruoo.com/en/listings/1720

You shouldn't be paying more than about 120-140 for a decent place of your own. Especially if it's unfurnished.

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>>64963216
>You shouldn't be paying more than about 120-140 for a decent place of your own. Especially if it's unfurnished.
It‘s furnished at least but even before the price hike it was like 150, probably cause it‘s close to shibuya and a university.
But those two places are pretty damn nice, guess I‘ll remember that site for next time.
There any huge contract fees with that site?

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>>64908691
Is she you know…

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>>64932206
> 5-8M yen
> poverty tier wage
That's 32k to 51k euro per year so 2.7 to 4.3k (rounded up) per month. It's poverty tier wage in U.S., but I started my working career (after graduation, we're talking 15 years ago or so) at just below 3k.
If we're talking about a proper western country with social services and healthcare, those are not bad wages for a job that requires no university degree. That said, a tech job for a competent professional is likely to be a lot easier, comfier and more secure. I'm getting paid a lot more at least.
Tardwrangling unstable entertainment workers requires a certain type of personality anyway.

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>>64965241
I looked into it a while back and it looks like it's mostly just the standard fees - it's not amazing, but it doesn't seem too much worse than the other gaijin sites. But if you can get that sort of furnished place with gaijin tax, you could rent a regular apartment on a 1 year lease and get a much better deal (the overall discussion in the thread is assuming you get a job with Cover)
The problem I always find is the stupid upfront costs mean you really need to have a proper Visa and live in Japan for 6-12 months to make an apartment worthwhile.

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>>64968337
(I don't really like the ¥1000/day utilities on that listing, and you can see the stupid Contract fee driving up your initial rent.)

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>>64968337
jeez dude what kind of prostitutes do you get at that price

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>>64969383
It's not so bad if you find a place with less braindead utility rates and spread the CCF out over like 6+ months.
But yes the upfront costs are brutal for a short term rental of 1-2 months.

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>>64958238
>jakartan after working hour

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>>64908691
I would love to do I need experience?

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Sorry but i swore to never work for chinks

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>>64913141
>childcare leave
So that's why Gura has been gone

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>>64954456
are you ok

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>>64908691
I highly doubt they pay enough. Japanese workplaces aren't exactly known for paying well

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>>64937642
WAKE UP ANON!

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>>64958770
but im white

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>>64974575
Apparently not. All you need to have is native level Indonesian and business level English.

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chama, my love