Phase Gen3 DEAD On Arrival

[Anonymous No.]

Phase really is the Pippa company. Those 2 Gen3 members can't get half her traction. And shills said PC was the next Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

dizzy is so hot

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888334
>numbers higher than Nijisanji
Hmm..

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888416
Proof?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888400
>look her up
>see con video
>shes actually hot
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888725
>People who got merch at the con could have gotten Dizzy's dead skin cells and the smell of her pheromones on their merch
>People who order online gets Sakana's stray hairs
Conbros just get things better

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888334
KYS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888866
>raidbaby
Doesn't count.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888334
Those look like great numbers for a small corpo

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888893
nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888690
>Proof?
https://vrabi.net/daily
Filter by NijiEn

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888334
>2 gen3 members
>pic only shows 1
Post Rin's number, Idolfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888832
Need shiina.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888334
That's cause Pippa's overlapping them because she hates her coworkers.

[Anonymous No.]

Hamster's doing fine kys op

[Anonymous No.]

>>64892810
>small corpo
Phase is a big corpo who has surpassed Niji and can go toe-to-toe with hololive if you believe the shills on this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64894512
>He says immediately after Plappa raided her
NO U

[Anonymous No.]

>Numbernigger bait thread
That's how you know phase is growing lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888334
Still strongest among all the small corpos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64894710
>Pippa HATES her coworkers because she's overlapping them
>Their only successful cause the yabbit is raiding
pick one and one only tard

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888334
>And shills said PC was the next Hololive
No one NO ONE
NOOO ONEEE has ever said this
not even the most arrogant or delusional phasefag, not the cockiest simp, no one

[Anonymous No.]

>>64895388
Hololive is a constant of vtubing. It won't be beaten. It's like Google among search engines. Hololive will go down when the when the whole industry goes down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888334
>And shills said PC was the next Hololive
No one has ever said this. Are Nijifags this afraid?

[Anonymous No.]

Better than NijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888893
You and your thread don't count.

>>64895920
Depends on what happens to the world economy this year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888400
https://files.catbox.moe/zzrft9.mp4

[Anonymous No.]

check this out

[Anonymous No.]

>>64902424
That's a post-debut buff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888334
The Pippa plapkin agency.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64905259
I did not know Pippa just debut, I guess her almost 5k viewers will mostly leave when her post debut buff gives out in a few weeks.
Dizzy must have also debut reciently with her 1.3k viewers, I know that's weak sauce compared to Pippa. I guess she will just be the runt of the gen.
Its mighty ambitious for fisherman to launch a 9 member gen though, lets see how that works for him

[Anonymous No.]

Why are numberthreads allowed outside of /#/?
Why hasn't all of SEA been rangebanned yet?

[Anonymous No.]

DIZZY SIT ON MY FACE!

[Anonymous No.]

>>64895920
Google is in some serious trouble after they were caught flat footed on AI by OAI. I doubt a similar sea change will happen to chuubas anytime soon, but remember that nothing lasts forever anon. A good comparison I've seen for corpos is the old MCNs that used to manage YT channels a decade ago like Machinima. They were juggernauts too until they suddenly weren't. Before you nijiseethe me, I am a ruffian. Just one who acknowledges that HL is not invulnerable.

[Anonymous No.]

NUMBERNIGGERS GET THE BULLET
NUMBERNIGGERS GET THE ROPE
NUMBERNIGGERS GET THE CROSS

[Anonymous No.]

>>64906348
Honestly speaking, holo earth Could end up being something that potentially ruins them.
Like we've already seen how many established developers have gone belly up this year alone because a bad release completely undid everything that they did previously. The Western game market is very unforgiving right now after years of companies abusing and misusing it people have started to really attack companies who release slop onto the market.
It's overly ambitious product that has taken several years to complete at this point and might have to even be done in a different engine because of the changes I don't think ever got rolled back from unity
That's the easiest point that I could see them ever going down is through losing good faith and western market.
Like don't get me wrong they're popular in Japan but even their own records show that they aren't quite as popular as Niji but they have a lot more western viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64906511
another factor about the weakness of reliance on the JP market is the yen being dogshit against the dollar

[Anonymous No.]

>>64905491
They did when 4channel became 4chan again retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888334
Eww

[Anonymous No.]

>>64906511
If Holoearth sucks up too much cash they will put it on ice and kill the servers. It's like Disney when the pandemic shut down their theme parks and slowed their film releases to a crawl. They have enough fat they can trim and remain even in that scenario.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64906722
>4channel became 4chan again
wha t the fuck how did i even miss that

[Anonymous No.]

>>64906511
if they spend too much they're stupid. it may be taking forever because they're controlling the budget tightly.

[Anonymous No.]

I think it's funny that Pippa was lying about Vshojo to try and make Phase look better in comparison.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64906348
>Google is in some serious trouble
Except they're not. Worse case scenario they can drop the search engine business if an AI search engine (in a few years) becomes popular with the normies - something accessible like Tiktok that can find and compile search results from multiple sources - and stick to being a company that owns other companies. They already started doing that a long time ago with the formation of Alphabet and acquiring youtube, copying yelp to make google maps, etc. Look at facebook/meta. Facebook became a marketplace for grey market items and Meta's biggest influencer platform is instagram.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64893470
Oh no no. Vox has 18.7K right now. Your response?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908421
>If Holoearth sucks up too much cash
huh? that thing looks like one of those indie projects with a one man development team.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64908521
What did she say?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64909945
Vshojo takes 100% of the merch sales. But pippa also said that it was a rumor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64909945
https://youtu.be/jXrt4LABQfc?t=1485

Geega actually adressed that
https://youtu.be/PdSK6Sy9A2g

[Anonymous No.]

>>64910206
No, they don't and no she didn't.

[Anonymous No.]

I love Dizzy so much, it's absolutely unreal.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Dizzy a hag?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64906511
Holoearth is good and fun, a good start so far
The devs directly respond to bug reports and suggestions through email

[Anonymous No.]

>>64906348
If you think about vtuber corps like this you are actually retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>64906511
>The Western game market is very unforgiving right now
Good thing that COVER isn’t a western company and aren’t making a western game. Dipshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64910251
so who is lying kson or geega assuming that pippa was referencing kson? I already find it amusing that pippa is starting to live rent free in their heads besides mouse and nyanners

[Anonymous No.]

>>64911658
Sounds good. I know close to nothing about the game. If the devs are cool, then I'm rooting for the devs to succeed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64912016
>I know close to nothing about the game
It’s gonna be an MMO with hololive-related gimmicks like in-game live concerts and stuff
They recently added basic character creation and a sandbox “test island” for people to try out the basic idea of what the game is going to be

[Anonymous No.]

>>64911939
Pippa is lying, Kson said they get to keep 100% of the merch income if they produce their own merch without Vshojo, that's it.
Also nobody cares about Pippa besides Henya. Geega didn't even know who was spreading that misinformation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64912250
tl;dr pippa esl lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>64912250
post the KSON clip since geega is too scared to mention her name like nyanners.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64912250
vshojo getting 100% of the merch can also associate to the members getting a portion of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64912508
You can look it up yourself, phaseshill.

>>64912574
No, it can't my ESL friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64912752
are the vshojo members not a part of vshojo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64910251
vshojo has to be pretty boring if she watches phase connect

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888334
Buy an ad

[Anonymous No.]

>>64912836
You phaseshills really like to lie about stuff huh?
I guess the fanbase really reflects the streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64912948
well you are referencing that geega was watching pippas stream, who else would she be watching to draw that conclusion?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64911939
>>64910251
>he said, she said
the problem with those discussions is that each person has different contract on top of net profit vs gross profit which nobody specifies
net profit will be the difference on costs vs sales, but clearly it costs money to both design, host and sale shit
so a company cant give 100% of the difference since they will be going into negative, thats clearly a lie then
income, revenue, gross, net, costs, i never see shit mentioned about actual details its always abstart shit that makes no sense

also merch sells may not be worth it, with low profit margins even 50% of a 10$ sale may amount to ... like 10 cents for the talent.

bottom line, show me the contract or fuck off with your retarded talk on how amazing your corpo is

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888334
Plappa is a trash human being and needs to be hung.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888334
jewcorp cope thread btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>64912988
If you want to weigh in with your comment at least have the decency to watch the clip instead of just inventing shit.

>>64913008
>bottom line, show me the contract or fuck off with your retarded talk on how amazing your corpo is
maybe Pippa should follow your advice kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>64905437
>people point out that Pippa is in a league of her own in phase
>point out the new debuts are all doing well
>people point out that it is a new debut buff
>BUT WHAT ABOUT PIPPA?
This argument circle seems stupid. Phase is doing fine, lots of girls that are high 3view or low 4view outside of pippa.
They have a pretty bad reputation but nothing crazy like NijiEN or some of the insanely black micro-corps. I’m sure some of the new gen will get solid numbers even after the debut buff wears off. If wonton could succeed then anything is possible; I don’t care much but there is some bile fascination on how dogfucker is going to turn out considering her history is way worse than wontons’.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888334
>Pippa, henya is waiting

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888725
What con video?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64913115
>If you want to weigh in with your comment at least have the decency to watch the clip instead of just inventing shit.

is pippa a phase connect member making geega phase connect watcher to make such statements rather be it clips or streams?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64902389
>https://files.catbox.moe/zzrft9.mp4

[Anonymous No.]

>>64913833
I have no idea what you're trying to say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64913344
>have a bunch of hasanabi vtubers with an alex jones vtuber.
my sides would be in orbit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64913912
that geega watches phase connect content specifically pippa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888334
High 3views are a success and have the potential to climb

[Anonymous No.]

>>64914021
Probably not but I don't see how that would change anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64914095
how would geega not watch phase connect if you claim she was referencing pippa who is a part of phase connect?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64913833
retard, you were already told to watch the clip instead of shitting out your ass

geega literally said "someone told me he saw clip of someone that said this" not even mentioning pipkin by name

stop trolling

[Anonymous No.]

>>64914208
Watch the clip I posted earlier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64914297
yes the clip says she was watching pippas stream.

[Anonymous No.]

I'll be honest. I don't even feel like giving any Phase Connecters a chance because I just assume they'll end up chasing dick or collabing with the worst trash out there anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64914398
>chasing dick or collabing with the worst trash out there anyway.
hard to do that if the manager is an unironic unicorn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64909249
they have a lot of people working on it believe it or not
in general japs suck at programming

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888334
normies and 12yo anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>64914352
>yes the clip says she was watching pippas stream.
No it literally doesn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888334
You bait is making Phase look better than NijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>64911939
When Kson joined Vshojo, she did a stream explaining their operation, the numbers thread was watching and liveblogging it and they are retarded and don't speak English or Japanese so Kson's explanation of how Vshojo makes money confused them. They then spewed their nonsense all over the catalog, and eventually it reached Pippa who repeated it on stream. Nobody actually ever said that Vshojo takes 100% of the merch money though, that would be absolutely retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64916139
>Nobody actually ever said that Vshojo takes 100% of the merch money though, that would be absolutely retarded.
That was the deal back in 2020 when they launched goldfish-chama. Vshojo gets 100% merch, talents keeps 100% of everything else. Clearly its changed since then but don't call other people retarded jsut because your memory sucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>64916332
That was never the deal, and nobody ever said that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64916402
Based retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>64916467
Feel free to post proof, we have 220 posts until bump limit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64916332
That was literally never true. You really think that multiple large indies come together to form vshojo and then sign away 100% of their merch income?
Absolute moron.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64916503
Feel free to post proof to the contrary. It's very old news that Vshojo never had a traditional revenue split

[Anonymous No.]

>>64916560
Why are phaseshills so dishonest

[Anonymous No.]

>>64916560
OK here's proof
>>64916139
>>64910251

[Anonymous No.]

>>64916721
>all info from people who joined way after launch
>when we know for a fact that the contracts have changed since then, because thats why veibae and nyanners left
man just stop posting, you're clearly like 80 IQ go watch some fucking fuwamoco and clap your hands like a seal

[Anonymous No.]

>>64916852
Can you please share the proof of that fact?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64916852
Pippa still lied even if it were true because she said this even later.
Don't get me wrong, it's not true but this is the dumbest defense I can imagine since Pippa literally pointed at Kson when she said that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64917119
https://youtu.be/dor-lBUwt5k?t=2575
In 2020 talents kept 100% of subs and donations
So where did Vshojo get any money at all? Hmm, they kept the merch revenue. That was the fucking pitch, and if I dug further I could probably find it but if you're not satisfied with this you're not worth my time anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>64917432
Your proof is complete speculation? I want to see a talent say Vshojo gets 100% of the merch profits, that is what you claimed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888334
I saw that one of them wasn't going to stream on the 24th so I dropped them immediately, you cant stop giving a shit that early.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888334
They objectively outperformed NijiEN's latest girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>64918064
In 2023 NijiEN is no longer 2nd (thanks Vshojo) and is now vying for 3rd place against Phase and Idol. Holy kek what a fall from grace.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64917432
Hololive takes 50% of channel revenue and probably a similar amount from merch and they make enough money to fund a 300 employee game dev studio. Vshojo has like 10 employees. They can easily survive by taking a small cut from merch and nothing else. Your speculating based on a wildly low estimate of how much money merch brings in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64917432
>In 2020 talents kept 100% of subs and donations
They still get to keep that in 2023 so how do you think that argument makes sense?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64918262
> now vying for 3rd place against Phase and Idol.
you are fucking smoking crack

q3 consolidated report has them make another 50mln$ globally and 10mln$ in EN, and those are quarterly numbers
Phase and Idol makes probably ... half a milion a quarter.... if that

[Anonymous No.]

>>64920370
That's not from this FY but you are right in one thing, NijiEN makes much more than Idol and Phase together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64921171
new reports dont come with nice graphs
they made 50% more, 15 billion yen in just 6 months, thats 110 milion $ in revenue, their profit margins are pretty nice too

Niji EN makes more than every single english vtuber company put together, even Vshojos 10mln$ stake sale they bragged so much about seems like a joke by comparison
clearly Niji model of debuting as often as possible works, all those medium sized streamers add up fast

[Anonymous No.]

>>64894710
>Pippa has decided that the Hamster is the only one in her gen worthy to be raided
Support Pippa's choices, Pipfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>64922336
What's your data to compare it with Vshojo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64902389
>watching this slop
you're literally 12, go back to twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64924603
No idea, private company. But going by their numbers and talent list i would put them at 10 mln$ yearly tops with low profit margings.
Vshojo isnt that big.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64928089
Because of the way VShojo works, (i.e., not taking a cut of streaming revenue and relying solely on merch and sponsorships), it's not even really worth comparing them to companies with totally different business models.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64917641
Here's talent saying literally the oppose yesterday: VShojo talent keep >50% of merch profits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdSK6Sy9A2g

[Anonymous No.]

>>64914033
they are still 4 views anon. bait

[Anonymous No.]

>vshojo talent literally saying that she gets more than half of the merch cut
>Anons still refuse to believe it
Look, from outside looking in, you guys may be retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

these are good numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888832
considering fish man makes dizzy carry stuff around the warehouse, honest chance you could get her dna on your stuff in some way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64905491
why are you affraid?
something you need to hide?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888334
Why the fuck does Pippa always stream over her kouhai's and even over her 'oshis" in hololive?
This isn't even some rare occurence, Pippa seems to only stream over other people
She never has good fucking schedules, and she always guerilla's over other girls who have streams planned over a week in advance

How has no one noticed this yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888334
>Phase Anti General
At least you faggots are contained now, stay here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64934098
Imagine being an anti of these nobodies. Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64934686
Yes, (You) are pathetic, I agree.

[Anonymous No.]

This will bring Phase Connect down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64930131
>employee praising his company
woah, shocking
corporations like vshojo arent in this as a charity, they are here to make money, they arent giving talents shit they dont have to
event that woke cunt nyanners wasnt happy with the company she helped her popular

[Anonymous No.]

>>64934098
I agree phase kinda sucks now

[Anonymous No.]

>>64936160
Yet you can't stop obsessing over us. Curious!

[Anonymous No.]

>>64935982
>event that woke cunt nyanners wasnt happy with the company she helped her popular
are you having a stroke

[Anonymous No.]

>>64936484
>us
lol. lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>64935982
Why do you continue to double down after your and Pippa's nonsense got exposed?
Stop seething so hard that your english breaks down and instead show some self-reflection for once.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64935982
Nigga what the fuck are you talking about

[Anonymous No.]

I LOVE DIZZY DOKURO LIKE YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE!!!

[Anonymous No.]

The Moment Shiina sings, the view number drop like a rock lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>64930293
this, they are performing closer to nijiEN than anything else when averaged out. this is factoring some of the phases are like mid-3view still even though a lot of them hit 4view status. the thing is, 4view alone is good, great even, but the top nijis are like mid-4view range not so infrequently for events and such. only pippa even touches that. if there were several other Phases getting pippa numbers, you'd easily say Phase has approximately caught up with nijiEN. which is fucking amazing really, fucking david vs goliath.

[Anonymous No.]

Again the new gen cannot keep up with the old.
Shiina from Gen1 is a 4view while the other 2 from Gen3 are barely clinging to 3view status. Vshojo is laughing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64938803
They are using a bot

[Anonymous No.]

>>64941647
>Shiina from Gen1
LOL Holy retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>64941647
>Vshojo is laughing
nigga what, I don't care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64945017
>he doesn't care so much that he HAD to reply
Ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>64941647
I can't believe shiina is gen 1 now
so proud of her finally moving up in the corpo ladder

[Anonymous No.]

>>64941647
Out of the axe wound that is this thread, this is somehow the most retarded post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64945343
this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64941647
shiina is gen 2 fag

[Anonymous No.]

>>64941647
I can't believe how retar.. Wait, I can easily believe it. Embarrassing..

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>64941647
Shiina was raided by Muyu

[Anonymous No.]

>>64911763
It literally does not matter. The west makes or breaks the gaming market outside of mmos. Why do you think Nintendo appeals so much to eops and literally live translates their video game announcements and shit that come out for Japan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888400
I agree

[Anonymous No.]

>>64913922
Pippa would behave like Sam Hyde in front of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64941647
>Vshojo is laughing.
My problem is only with Pippa and phaseshills who intentionally spread misinformation about Vshojo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64941647
>Shiina from gen 1
>the other 2 from Gen3
>barely clinging to 3view status.
>Vshojo is laughing
This might be the best post I've ever seen on this board

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888334
I'd like to wish op and all fellow NUMBERchads a blessed day

[Anonymous No.]

>>64967555
His numbers are faulty and bring you shame

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888400
Proof?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64910251
>pippa makes shit up
>i wonder if geega or kson are lying
you faggots are beyond hopeless

[Anonymous No.]

bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>64969668
Gen3 has a lot of interest. But a portion of it is clearly being taken from Gen2. Still it seems they brought in a lot of new people. Runie somehow maintained 4view even against Shiina and Pippa

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888334
>00:10:56
numbermonkeys and dishonesty, name a more iconic duo. kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>64893513
He's a retard who thinks Dizzy is "gen 3".

[Anonymous No.]

>>64905491
Best post ITT
>>64933509
retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>64913833

[Anonymous No.]

>>64920370
>but muh earnings
This is so on the nose for riku defense squad that it just has to be a false flag

[Anonymous No.]

>>64934098
>phase anti general
>p a g
>/pagpag/

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888334
#supportphaseeuphoria

[Anonymous No.]

>>64972256
then what is the definition of success if not money?
your personal feelings?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64975230
Asking the right question.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64913134
Dogfucker?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64956096
Even the Manga industry is trying to appeal to the western market now to the point that multiple mangaka are putting out statements saying to stop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64977000
Why

[sage No.]

>>64941647
>Shiina from Gen1
Gen 2
>other 2 from Gen3
Lia is Gen 1, Runie is Gen 3
>barely clinging to 3view status.
?????
>Vshojo is laughing
This is the most intelligent phase anti...

[Anonymous No.]

>>64888866
MORE

[Anonymous No.]

>>64977000
yeah, one of gen3 might have sex with her dog