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New in-depth article about Ironmouse just dropped.
https://themessenger.com/tech/ironmouse-vtuber-streamer-youtube-twitch-creator-of-the-year

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>>64838202
im not clicking that. at the very least have the decency to provide an archive link for your garbage

>> No.64838521

oh she's not dying anymore? bummer

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>>64838640

>> No.64838812

>>64838721
If only there was a bullet point for your specific question

>> No.64838936

>>64838202
>beat her illness
doesn't she go cry about dying soon every few months?

>> No.64838991

>>64838936
What’s your first language?
I’ll make a translation of this when I wake up >>64838640

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>>64838640

>> No.64839015

im glad she is cured now and doesnt need special care. Thanks for the all explaining headline.

>> No.64839031

>>64838202
That illness doesn't exist, but if it does, she didn't beat shit

>> No.64839040

>IMfags posting clickbait articles
that bad?

>> No.64839066

>>64839040
IMfag posted it, not Mousefags

>> No.64839102

>>64838202
>Ironmouse, and her longterm partner Connor Waczowski
fucking kek

>> No.64839132

>>64838991
Spanish, from Mexico.

>> No.64839155 [DELETED] 

>>64839102
>longterm partner
I thought she was married, doesn't she have a daughter?

>> No.64839219

>>64838202
>beat her illness
lolno

>> No.64839282 [DELETED] 

>>64839155
why was this deleted?

>> No.64839337

>>64839010
>>64838812

>> No.64839431 [DELETED] 

>>64839282
It's off-topic. You cannot talk about streamer's personal life, even if it's in form of a clip of her own stream where she talks about it.

>> No.64839454

>>64839431
literally half the discussion on the board would get banned in that case

>> No.64839494 [DELETED] 

>>64838202
But she can't beat the deadbeat parent allegations

>> No.64839551 [DELETED] 

>>64839132
>Dijo que se está muriendo. ¿Cómo ha estado "muriendo" desde hace años?
Ironmouse no se está muriendo, y nunca dijo que se estaba muriendo. Simplemente lo pasa mal viviendo. Su enfermedad es crónica, no terminal. Esas palabras tienen significados diferentes.

>> No.64839584

>>64839494
She has deadbeat parents?

>> No.64839600 [DELETED] 

>>64839431
And even though it was on her official, public twitter account. Mods are weird like that.

>> No.64839621

>>64839600
It's not though

>> No.64839682

>>64838640
Can she have sex though?

>> No.64839704 [DELETED] 

>>64839584
>is*

>> No.64839727

>>64839682
not at this point no

>> No.64839733 [DELETED] 

I guess having a kid would kinda disprove having an illness that's been killing you for years and doesn't allow you to be in the same room as other people, why is it a bad thing to dispell misinformation?

>> No.64839735

>>64839682
Physically? Yes
Would it lead to a thousand horrible infections? Probably

>> No.64839748

>>64839494
inb4 deleted

>> No.64839766

>>64839735
Hmm

>> No.64839768

>>64839733
>CVID is typically adult-onset, not presenting symptoms until adulthood, Ironmouse did normal life stuff in her earlier years that would be a bad idea to do now

>> No.64839774

Success breeds jealousy

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>>64839682

>> No.64839789

>>64838202
Vtubers are going to end up just being ethots with avatars

>> No.64839808

>>64839768
I should note that in the Immune Deficiency Foundation interview, they point out that she had health problems when she was really young, got better around puberty, and then got worse around adulthood, which is supposedly typical

>> No.64839819

>>64839789
Most twitch vtubers are literally that, how many of them had a naked avatar ready to go when the twitch policies dropped?

>> No.64839899

>>64839819
Well the succubi won't get my money at least

>> No.64839924 [DELETED] 

>>64839768
>adult onset
Did she have her kid when she was a teenager?

>> No.64839943 [DELETED] 

>>64839924
What do you think you fucking retard

>> No.64840005 [DELETED] 

>>64838640
Bruh ironmouse has aids wtf?

>> No.64840061

>>64840005
It's specifically not an Autoimmune condition

>> No.64840084

>>64838202
So her life threatening illness is cured? Holy fuck, what a Christmas miracle. I'm so glad the news broke out just as she became a household name.

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>>64838640
I fundamentally appreciate your lego box view of the world sir. Here's a rare comment from the alpine dollar coaster man, who also has a strict and fair view of the world. A world he believed in and became engaged was wrong.

>> No.64840130

ITT (as with every catalog Mouse thread):

Anons fail to understand the difference between "chronic" and "terminal"
Anons fail to understand that chronic illnesses typically worsen over time and that people who suffer from chronic illnesses commonly lose the ability to do certain things as a result (i.e. it is not a contradiction that Mouse did XYZ when she was younger)
Anons fail to display basic literacy

>> No.64840158 [DELETED] 

>>64840061
Yeah but she has aids though right?

>> No.64840171

>>64840130
Time to go somewhere where this doesn't happen. Could you point me in the correct direction?

>> No.64840176

>>64840158
do you know what aids stands for?

>> No.64840203 [DELETED] 

>>64840176
Fag disease

>> No.64840213

>>64840061
AIDS is also not an autoimmune condition, so I don't know why you're bring it up.

>> No.64840225

>>64840203
I'll give you a clue
the A stands for Auto

>> No.64840224

>>64838202
Don't care. I'd watch her, but she chose to be Cuntnor's onahole.

>> No.64840230

>>64840225
no it doesn't

>> No.64840257

>>64840225
...no? Are you moron?
AIDS stannds for Acquired immunodeficiency syndrome.
It's not what Mouse has.
Neither AIDS nor CVID are autoimmune.

>> No.64840269

>>64840225
Automatic fag disease? Didn't even know that was a thing, wow. Poor ironmouse.

>> No.64840280

>>64840230
>>64840257
Well, I was wrong
I still think she has CVID though for a few reasons

>> No.64840304

>>64840280
no shit, people don't even get aids anymore in developed countries

>> No.64840312

>>64840280
No shit she has CVID you fucking moron, that wasn't in question by anyone with intelligence.

>> No.64840351

>>64840280
Anon what possible part of AIDS made it think it was an autoimmune disease
Nothing about the commonly known description of AIDS describes it doing autoimmune things

>> No.64840380

>>64840351
I am very tired right now

>> No.64840420

>>64840380
To demonstrate your renewed understanding of what an autoimmune condition is, please describe the basic problem it causes.

>> No.64840436

>>64840280
>I still think she has CVID
Well I mean that is what she has, as has been explicitly stated countless times

>> No.64840459

So we're all in agreement mousey's popularity comes from pity bait make-a-wish shit + leeching from trash taste? Good

>> No.64840466

Wait so for cereal does she have aids or nah cause I'm Tryna get up in that

>> No.64840477

>>64840466
CVID is not AIDS no

>> No.64840516

>>64840466
see
>>64838640

>> No.64840517

>>64839733
doesn't the singer Kesha has the same disease now ? You probably have it abut it manifest when you're an adult.

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>>64838640

>> No.64840545

I have never seen so many doctors gathered in one thread.

>> No.64840550

>>64840517
Yeah she just got diagnosed a few months ago

>> No.64840553

>>64840517
She was diagnosed with it recently, she always had it

>> No.64840611

>>64840545
You don't have to be a doctor to understand basic health information.

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>>64838202
Link to archives instead of original articles, retard.
Here: https://archive.is/fXud5

>>64839102
>Waczowski
Nice Welsh name lol

>> No.64840655

>>64840526
Many people care, as it's the entire point of this thread. You have a reading disability.

>> No.64840703

>>64839102
Anon is so illiterate, he's making up article content

>> No.64840826

>>64840611
>I'm not dying!
>But I have to be kept on this machine or I'll die
>I'm perfectly healthy!
>But I have to chug plasma like its popcorn or I''ll die
>I can go out whenever I want
>Claims to be bedridden for years
Which is it then, your story changes with every post and none of them match that 1 shill image.

>> No.64840837

>>64839768
idk sounds like adult onset aids to me

>> No.64840862

Ironlung is my hero.

>> No.64840867

>>64840826
>>I'm perfectly healthy!
>>I can go out whenever I want
where was this said anywhere in this thread?

>> No.64840889 [DELETED] 

If she wanted even more pity points she could talk about her daughter, does Connor help with taking care of her?

>> No.64840895

>>64840655
>Many people care
I don’t consider ironlung fans to be “people”

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We should change it up every once in awhile, like instead of roleplaying retards maybe roleplay being dogs or something

>> No.64840906

>>64840826
Anon you are literally making shit up and then choosing to get mad at your own fiction

>> No.64841039 [DELETED] 

Fighting a deadly disease while slee- streaming 12 hours a day and taking care of a kid is truly inspiring

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>>64840826
>I'm not dying!
Correct.
>But I have to be kept on this machine or I'll die
She has to have a steady stream of concentrated oxygen. At home, a machine does that. When outside, pre-filled tanks take over until she can hook up to another machine at the location. It's just a simple nose tube delivering it to her.
>I'm perfectly healthy!
Never stated.
>But I have to chug plasma like its popcorn or I''ll die
Correct.
>I can go out whenever I want
Never stated. She can go outside, but only if necessary and it takes a lot of planning.
>Claims to be bedridden for years
Correct.
Nothing about her story is contradictory. If you think it is, you're either running off of bad information or are stupidly misunderstanding it.

>> No.64841171 [DELETED] 

>>64841070
Damn that all sounds totally real. How has she managed to raise her kid all these years with all that going on? She must be supermom of the year to do that while streaming and having Connor visit most days
No wonder people like her so much, it's her honesty isn't it?

>> No.64841184

>Parasocial retards so mad their fav png didn't get what they thought they deserved, they started attacking a vtuber on their IRL personal and medical predicament.
It's like when it comes to mouse it's all out hate. what happened to good ol' banter?

>> No.64841255 [DELETED] 

>>64841171
Anon she outright explains that in the video that you're referencing. Please be less stupid.
>and having Connor visit most days
and here you're literally just making shit up wholesale to get mad about

>> No.64841341 [DELETED] 

>>64841184
Who is attacking her? Is it the people praising her for being able to stream so many hours and take care of her duaghter at the same time in her final hours?

>> No.64841714

>>64841341
How's your job search going, anon?

>> No.64841774

>>64841714
I'm on break, why do you ask?

>> No.64842430

>>64838327
Fpbp

>> No.64842433

>>64841070
>>I'm perfectly healthy!
>Never stated.
>>64842357
Opps. I accidentally dropped this here

>> No.64842458

>>64838640
Kek I hope you just copy pasted all that, no1s reading that shit

>> No.64842459

>>64842433
Ummmm IronKek....
Our response?

>> No.64842462 [DELETED] 

Don't let the thread die now anons! Everyone must know of how amazing queen ironmouse is! I'm sure her daughter is proud of her too! Bumping, for justice!

>> No.64842507

>>64842433
Retard. Learn the difference between being healthy and not needing any surgery.
I don't want to say anything negative about your oshi Irysnigger, but I hope your oshi never goes through what Mousey has gone through

>> No.64842539

>>64842433
>>64842507
its shitty click bait she doesn't even mention surgery in the clip she is literally just talking about hospital gowns

>> No.64842563

>>64842507
>claims to be ironmouse fan
>randomly shitting on irystocrats for no reason
Least obvious falseflag.

>> No.64842615

>>64842507
What did IRyS do?

>> No.64842820

>>64842459
>>64842807

>> No.64842821

>>64842433
maybe you should watch it before you drop it

>> No.64842874

>>64842821
That would imply that the bait thread actually links to the video that HAS that clickbait thumbnail

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>> No.64843026

>>64842615
>>64842820
>>64842821
>>64842874
>>64842945
Thank you for keeping the thread bumped! Maybe if everyone sees this tiktok kids will stop being mean to her. Keep this on the front page!

>> No.64843680 [DELETED] 

Why are you letting the thread die? Didn't you want people to praise queen mousey's herculean feats?

>> No.64844823

>>64842433
>someone on /vt/ said it, that makes it true and I don't have to think for even a moment about it
CVID is incurable, it is a fundamental dysfunction of her immune system

It takes less than 30 seconds to find that information and dismantle 90% of catalog shitposts about Mouse

>> No.64844935

>>64844823
Thank you for keeping the thread alive! Wouldn't want people to forget about how amazing our queen is!

>> No.64845064

>>64840526
cared enough to comment

>> No.64846402

Oops! Almost let it die, wouldn't want people to forget about the queen of the board!

>> No.64848548

>>64842539
She mentions not having been hospitalized in a while about a minute and 20 seconds into the clip. The surgery talk is tied to the whole wearing pajamas thing.

>> No.64849176 [DELETED] 

>>64838202
Will she beat the deadbeat parent accusations though?

>> No.64849266

>>64838640
This was written by a vshoujo employee. Also botted as fuck, can`t even reach 2k on youtube.

>> No.64849362

>>64849266
If Ironmouse is botted on twitch why didn't they also buy bots for youtube views

>> No.64849410

>>64849362
Because that anon is projecting, as per usual.

>> No.64849498

>>64849362
She's only in the twitch clique, she'd be caught if she tried it on youtube

>> No.64849584

>>64849498
But you claim there is evidence on twitch

>> No.64849620

>>64849362
Twitch inflates view numbers with embed links. Its why Fextralife has thousands of viewers because they embed the stream on their souls game wiki.

>> No.64849679

>>64838640
This feels like cope, she absolutely plays up her illness when it benefits her

>> No.64849698

>>64849620
Twitch banned embeds like that a while back now, and the only 'evidence' this place could provide was, er, the links in the vsj+ op.

>> No.64849761

>>64849584
The evidence is her chat which moves slower then some 2view chuubas on here, her chat does not move fast enough for a chuuba with 5-7k live viewers, it is suspicious as hell

>> No.64849794

>>64849698
Ironmouse's views aren't legitimate either way. See webms of her supposedly having 5k+ live viewers but her chat being a ghost town.

>> No.64849906

>>64849761
Yeah I've seen the webms and also I'm in her chat

Like

If it's an off hour and not interacting with chat while also playing a game with not much going on chat moves slow but if she's asking chat if they want to suck her toes when it's a friday night my computer lags

>> No.64850066

>>64849906
There's a reason the main one they've been sperging out over is a restream of a charity event from the charity's own channel.
That their immediate assumption is 'bots' says mroe about them than anything else.

>> No.64850468

>>64849906
>If it's an off hour
Anon, nothing can explain her chat being that dead when she's supposedly got thousands of people in the room. I remember when Kiara was only pulling 1k for her superchat readings and at her chat's slowest it was still moving about 4x faster than Ironmouse's dead chat. It makes no fucking sense. I'm sure she does get plenty of legitimate viewers on the weekend or if she's doing some trendy meme content but it's pretty obvious that other times there's virtually nobody watching her and her views are getting botted.

>> No.64850558

>>64850468
Superchat readings include a bit of toe sucking play don't be silly anon

>> No.64850820

you can cope all you want but not even 3 view chat is that slow even when there's dead air

>> No.64850966

>>64850820
>Watching a 4 view right now
>GTA RP
>No chats in a full minute
>There's an ironmouseJam emote from someone just vibing
Like even if she's botting who is paying for the subs

>> No.64851215

>>64849794
anon... dual monitor is a thing.

>> No.64851256

>>64850966
who paying the subs, the donations... Numbermonkeys are the flatearthers from this board.

>> No.64851288 [DELETED] 

>>64838202
yeah, by being that cdwdog persons cumsock. amazing. also by being a lying whore

>> No.64851370 [DELETED] 

>>64851288
but anon, she's married and has a daughter, and can't go outside, and she would explode if anyone touched her

>> No.64851402 [DELETED] 

>>64838640
Anything about her alleged daughter?

>> No.64851471

>>64851402
subhumans love to dox people

>> No.64851474 [DELETED] 

>>64851402
is it alleged if she confirmed it herself?

>> No.64851532 [DELETED] 

>>64851474
No idea, that's why I'm asking. She always comes up when people talk about Ironmouse but I've never seen anything solid to back it up, or if it's just /vt/ making random shit up

>> No.64851550 [DELETED] 

>>64851471
>entire board laughing at someone who's only noteable becuase they were caught selling doxx
>angry doxxfags posting on cooldown
hmmmmm

>> No.64851635

>>64851532
>discussion should pertain to a VTuber's streams and content, and should not pertain to their real lives, relationships, or appearances
Either way you're asking for and encouraging breaking literally the primary rule of this board.

>> No.64851864 [DELETED] 

well since you're asking so nicely
https://a.cockfile.com/CgPpwG.jpg

>> No.64852098 [DELETED] 

https://a.cockfile.com/CgPpwG.jpg

>> No.64852151

>>64838202
ITS A MIRACLE!! SHES CURED!!

>> No.64852226

>>64852098
Ban evading is cringe and you're a schizo

>> No.64852267

>>64838640
>hampered her ability to absorb oxygen from the air she breathes
That explains a lot.

>> No.64852287

>>64852226
>>64851532
lying is a sin

>> No.64852327 [DELETED] 

https://a.cockfile.com/CgPpwG.jpg

>> No.64852396

This just playing a character is a sin

>> No.64852430 [DELETED] 

>>64839682
She must have had plenty with her ex-husband, how else could her daughter have come to be?

>> No.64853514 [DELETED] 

>>64851402
Im her daughter. She cant breastfeed me because of her condition so I drink formula. It tsstes like shit

>> No.64853532 [DELETED] 

Can't stand ironwhore. I'll be watching a comfy Matara or Henya stream and suddenly Ironlung joins the call whining about being sick all week. Then her white knight pity fag audience is always here saying she never complains about being sick. Building an audience off of a story of you being a helpless sick girl when you are the oldest member of Vshojo is despicable.

>> No.64853620

>inspiring latinx opera singer who was confined to her room due to chronic illness, continues to make the best of her situation by vtubing
vs
>literal autistic retard who still lives with her mom as she's incapable of taking care of herself, has a monkey for a pet
Yeah I see why she won the vtuber of the year award

>> No.64853728 [DELETED] 

>>64853620
the most inspiring part is avoiding death for years despite dying constantly, all while taking care of a daughter

>> No.64854043 [DELETED] 

I don't understand what's the big deal with her daughter, it's not some bombshell and it's on her official twitter so it's on topic. Especially now since being a mother is another one of her many achievements

>> No.64854309 [DELETED] 

I don't understand what's the big deal with her daughter, it's not some bombshell and it's on her official twitter so it's on topic. Especially now since being a mother is another one of her many achievements

>> No.64854464

>>64839682
Yes. Specifically with me.

>> No.64854519 [DELETED] 

You don't understand, if /#/ seethes hard enough, they'll take away all her awards and money and give it to based epic bacon Hololive!

>> No.64854709

>>64838202
I have respect for her because she buckbreaks /vt/ schizos by doing nothing

>> No.64854817 [DELETED] 

I don't understand what's the big deal with her daughter, it's not some bombshell and it's on her official twitter so it's on topic. Especially now since being a mother is another one of her many achievements

>> No.64854925

>>64850558
This is such cope, the deadest of dead hololive streams have chats that are ten times faster

>> No.64854974

>>64854925
Okay make a video exposing her if this is such an easy fact to see

>> No.64855384

>>64854974
Done, 1 hour expose. Suck it faggot, Ironwhore is done
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq88AqJsQUQ

>> No.64855489 [DELETED] 

I don't understand what's the big deal with her daughter, it's not some bombshell and it's on her official twitter so it's on topic. Especially now since being a mother is another one of her many achievements

>> No.64855879

If Ironmouse is the Magic Johnson of vtubing, who's Larry Bird and Michael Jordan?

>> No.64856130 [DELETED] 

I don't understand what's the big deal with her daughter, it's not some bombshell and it's on her official twitter so it's on topic. Especially now since being a mother is another one of her many achievements

>> No.64856153

>>64838202
>>64838640
So she's fine 99% of the time? What a convenient illness...

>> No.64856186

>>64856153
You could just ask what 'chronic' means anon, it's OK to be ignorant.

>> No.64856276

>>64856153
The way I understand her illness is that when not sick she's fine just like you and me (minus side effects from drugs she's taking), but if she gets sick she's fucked up 10x worse than you or I.

>> No.64856460

>>64838202
Becoming a vtuber cured all her sicknesses damn and here I thought she had the 7 cancers, her heart was giving out, she only had half a lung left, and had a bull horn permanently stuck in her body. I mean, that's what she was leading us to believe all this time. She wouldn't lie to us.

>> No.64856577

>>64856460
The article is a bit misleading. It should actually read "woman beat her illness by making enough money to afford healthcare". It's amazing what having actual medical insurance does for your health.

>> No.64856625

Her illness as in being a 3d woman.

>> No.64856674

>>64856577
but I thought she was dying and in an ironlung wheelchair 24/7 because of her incurable disease

>> No.64856728

>>64838202
>Scans article to see if they actually mention real information
>Still pretending she never talked about certain subjects
Ah, more bullshit article.
>>64839682
lol, she can, connor isn't sticking around out of the goodness of his heart.

>> No.64856744

>>64856276
Well, that's from the illness itself. The problem is she's suffered all sorts of infections and shit so she has lasting damage. Even if her immune system were to magically become normal, she's still have all sorts of problems from previous infections

>> No.64856746 [DELETED] 

>>64838202
Buy an ad

>> No.64856758

>>64856674
It's still incurable. It's just not as intolerable, because now she can afford doctors where the job title isn't prefixed by the word witch.

>> No.64856774

>>64856276
Kinda but not quite. One issue is that without plasma donations, the immune system isn't able to do its job properly so it's very easy to get sick in the first place.
Like, she jokes about going to a Denny's bathroom would kill her, but you and I wouldn't have to think twice about anything like that because our immune systems would fight off most of the shit we encounter daily without us noticing.

>> No.64856789

>>64839682
We did last night so yeah

>> No.64856824

>>64856153
>he's fine 99% of the time
>the second he jumps in lava he dies
how convenient

>> No.64856857

>>64856774
It'd kill me too. The mental damage of knowing I sat my cheeks in a Denny's bahtroom would kill me.

>> No.64856895 [DELETED] 

How did she manage to give birth if she had this disease?
https://a.cockfile.com/CgPpwG.jpg

>> No.64856920

>>64856824
Yeah man, can you imagine being fine all that time before the bullet hits your skull, and then being dead right after? How convenient

>> No.64856944

>>64856774
But she gers the plasma now so that shouldn't be a problem

>> No.64856977

>>64855879
Whoever has the worst gambling addiction

>> No.64857062 [DELETED] 

how did she manage to give birth with this kind of disease?

>> No.64857066

>>64856977
Mikeneko

>> No.64857179

>>64856944
One of the big issues over the last few years is that plasma donations have been required for covid treatment, so there have been shortages. Plus the usual US healthcare system is dogshit routine, so meds aren't always available, even if you have money.
Also think how you run a fever when your immune system is fighting off an infection - now imagine what happens if your immune system has been chilling and then all of a sudden kicks into action.

>> No.64857235 [DELETED] 

how did she give birth if any human contact would kill her?

>> No.64857246

>>64857179
Right, and she's on a bunch of other meds, too, which tend to have shortage at the end of the year

>> No.64857274

>>64856944
If not having good plasma is anything like having shitty kidneys, she's going to need constant refills/cleaning of that shit.

>> No.64857328

>>64857179
>She's taking something that fixes the issue
>uhhhh but uh look all this bullshit that could hurt her
If the plasma fixes her condition then it fixes her condition. I can understand her lungs being fucked for life, that happens, but if the plasma is doing its job then she's fine.

>> No.64857381

>>64857328
The plasma HELPS, it doesn't make her function perfectly. She practically suffers a fever and shit with every plasma infusion while it gives her a temporary immune response

>> No.64857390 [DELETED] 

how did she have a daughter if human contact is dangerous for her

>> No.64857402

>>64857246
>>64857274
Yeah she has the money to ignore any issues with these, it's the same reason you don't see rich people sick.

>> No.64857496

>>64857328
plasma doesn't fix her condition the same way that dialysis doesn't fix somebody's kidneys, it's a treatment that temporarily does what the body is supposed to do on its own but can't due to illness. if you can't grasp this you're just trolling because this isn't difficult to understand

>> No.64857504

>>64857328
The way I understand it, the plasma helps, but it's not a cure to her ailment. It's like.. if an illness affects us at 1x damage, it hits her at 10x damage, but with the plasma donations it's reduced to 5x damage instead.

>> No.64857507

>>64857381
Somewhat common with regular people too. Plenty of times I've given a patient FFP and they have a mild reaction, usually some itching and hives

>> No.64857516

>>64857328
It doesn't fix it, merely ameliorate it, hence chronic.

>> No.64857554

>>64857402
Monet doesn't make meds materialize in your room and symptoms go away instantly. She's delayed or cancelled enough scheduled events and even sponsored streams for that to be obvious

>> No.64857563

>>64857496
People who do dialysis live otherwise normal lives. If the plasma is equivalent then she should be able to live an otherwise normal life.

>> No.64857693

>>64857563
But what anons have been telling you is that it's not equivalent. The plasma infusions move the needle from "completely fucked" to just "fucked".

>> No.64857703

>>64857563
that's completely incorrect, people on dialysis need to be careful of what they consume because their body can't handle what the body of a person with normal kidneys can

>> No.64857706

Man, I wish I was a girl so I could live for free just because I sometimes get sick.

>> No.64857709

>>64857563
Dialysis is quite different to plasma transfusion though, both in reason and method.

>> No.64857978

>>64857563
>People who do dialysis live otherwise normal lives.
As someone with an uncle that regularly has dialysis treatments, this is not the case at all. Your diet and activities are more regulated than a normal person because you basically want to be as un-fucked up as possible between sessions in terms of having toxins in your blood stream.

>> No.64859546

>>64857563
>If the plasma is equivalent
IT'S NOT

>> No.64859573

>>64857978
>>64857703
My father is on dialysis currently, that's a load of shit

>> No.64859621

>>64859546
>>64857693
If it's not equivalent then you shouldn't have stated it was, this is moving the goalposts

>> No.64859790

>>64859621
>If it's not equivalent then you shouldn't have stated it was
Nigger you're the only one that considered it an equivalent from a "I can be a functioning human" standpoint. I was comparing how much of a hassle upkeep was gonna be for an artificial procedure (dialysis doing what kidneys do and plasma infusions doing what your own body should be doing in the first place) that a normal human body does regularly, hence why I said she's gonna need constant refills and/or cleaning of the thing.
You're the retard that moved the goalpost.

>> No.64860498

>>64859621
I never did, you stupid fuck.
YOU'RE the one that started using it as an arguement out of nowhere.
YOU'RE the one that invented it as a point to get mad about.
EVERYONE ELSE has been telling you that you're incorrect.

>> No.64860598

>>64860498
This post was not me, I did not come up with that argument >>64857274

>> No.64860623

>>64859621
Anon, I have a sincere question: do you have a reading disability?

>> No.64860690

>>64860598
... nowhere does that post state it's an equivalence. Please learn how to read.

>> No.64860720

>>64860598
Anon, I already explained the "argument" in >>64859790
At no point in the post you linked did I say "man plasma shots sure do work just like dialysis", and just commented on it being a pain in the ass.

>> No.64860914

>>64860690
>>64860720
Please teach your defenders how english works and what implications are.

>> No.64861026

>>64860914
>Please teach your defenders how english works
Why should we? The only moron that got "oh man plasma infusions work the same way as dialysis" out of "she's gonna need a lot of refills/clean ups" is you.

>> No.64861074

>>64856674
Maybe you should actually listen to how Mouse has described her condition instead of believing anti posts from the failed lobotomies that post here

>> No.64861768

>>64857328
1. Her plasma infusions are, simply put, borrowing someone else's immune system temporarily. This means every time she gets plasma she's getting a different immune system. She has no ability to build and strengthen any immunity, she only gets what is given to her.

2. The efficacy of a plasma infusion deteriorates over time, and her condition is to the point that she needs new plasma once a week.
When she gets plasma, it usually takes her out for the whole day because it makes her sick. The new immune system attacks whatever the old system failed to get, or whatever snuck in while the old system was weak in the latter part of the cycle.

3. Even with someone else's immune system, she's still capable of getting sick just like everyone else. And if she gets sick, it hits her a lot harder because a) a temporary infusion is not a replacement for a homegrown, lifelong immune system and b) she has had several major complications and chronic infections in the past which have permanently damaged her body and makes getting sick easier and worse.

It isn't a fix. It's a treatment.

>> No.64862258

She has cum in the lungs, Many such cases!

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