Small corpos are shady as fuck

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>Tsunderia self-destructs due to incompetence and the owner firing the only person who did anything in the company
>Cyberlive self-destructs due to all the talents being menhera and the owner's girlfriend/manager being 17
>AkioAir self-destructs due to not paying their talents for MONTHS
>ShirayuriPro closes up shop after running out of money
>EIEN collapses after one of their girls gets fired for being too parasocial with her fans, and another girl scams her fans with her boyfriend's gaming chair
>Kawaii gen 3 mass graduate and run off with the bag after a $50,000 donothon to start their own corpo
>Yuri from Phase Connect abruptly graduates and runs off with $5000 of her fans' money after a donothon, Sakana is forced to issue refunds from Pippa's superchats
>IdolCorp fires a girl after finding out she was taking drugs and having sex with her fans AND HER MANAGER for money
>VReverie girls abruptly mass graduate to start their own corp after the company fails to pay them any of the money they were owed this year
>VShojo bullies one of their founding members out of the company just because she wanted to play wizard game
>WACTOR owner publicly doxxes his former employees while threatening to hire hitmen to murder them just for asking where their paycheck is
Anything else I'm missing this year?

Meanwhile the catalog only talks about the latest Niji "yabs" of a male and female interacting on stream. Absolute state of this board.

Then when these girls resurface in Nijisanji retards wonder what they were possibly thinking joining a "black" company that pays its talents on time, has good work-life balance, and doesn't make you wanna kill yourself from the stress of whether the company might randomly implode every time you login to Slack. Small corpos are a fucking scam.

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>>64746104
>Vshojo
>small corpo
They are bigger than Niji, especially in the west.

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with all due respect hololive still sits the same company drama as those but they have themselves lawyers and advisors whenever shits like all of other companies had happened

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>>64746269
whatever you say zentreya

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>>64746353
Now divide that time by the number of talents under each company.

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>>64746345
Hololive isn't yabless but they're a much better managed company. The talents complain about first world problems like not getting a 3D concert, not basic shit like "being paid on time" or "my manager tried to rape me". Well, other than Mel but supposedly they settled the problem since she's still there.
I don't think Holo or Niji's talents are unhappy about being there.

>>64746501
90% of VShojo's views come from IronMouse, you really wanna play this game anon?
Also, VShojo doesn't keep vods long term so the watch hours are very skewed in favor of Nijisanji. Kuzuha alone gets 1 million views per day just from vods for example.

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>>64746269
As much as i want to shit on Niji, Vshojo is literally as big as ONE branch of Niji or Holo, even some of the other small corpos have more members. Hence "Small corpo" is objectively correct for VShojo.

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>>64746104
never really thought about kawaii 3 like that but huh, they really did run donothons and run off with the bag. makes it even shadier considering that they had the vdere domain registered before they even left.

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>>64746104
>slack
nice jork, they all use discord
>>64746353
who made this??? VSPO = Virtual eSports Project

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>>64746104
>Meanwhile the catalog only talks about the latest Niji "yabs" of a male and female interacting on stream.
We can talk about all the other yabs from niji that don't involve male collabs if you want, like the 2% or the Zaion saga, or the covid destroyer of events and refunds or the baseball rant, or the implosion of nijiKR or when demiurge sama mocked Pekora's fans or parasocial fucks, or when some faggot pulled a dildo in front of young girls, or the queen of spades, or the vox-reimu drama or Selen being treated like a second class citizen or the all out war or the gift cards thing.... Pretty sure am missing some stuff but you get the point.

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>>64746104
>EIEN collapses after one of their girls gets fired for being too parasocial with her fans, and another girl scams her fans with her boyfriend's gaming chair
Not a single thing is true in this sentence, that's kinda impressive

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>>64747464
the chair part is true

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>>64747983
It's literally the only Kiki yab that wasn't proven true (and she has a lot of yabs). It could have happened but there's no hard evidence

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>>64747983
It wasn't her boyfriend's chair, it was her brother's.

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>>64746104
>>WACTOR owner publicly doxxes his former employees while threatening to hire hitmen to murder them just for asking where their paycheck is
Based

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>>64747464
>>64746104
>>64747983
Eien debuted a new generation though.

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>>64746104
>Kawaii gen 3 mass graduate and run off with the bag after a $50,000 donothon to start their own corpo
doesn't that make the talents the shady ones?

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>>64747454
ALL OUT WAR

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>>64746104
Absolute livid state of nijikeks going after everyone else on the board.

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>>64748924
Shhh you aren't supposed to point that out.

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>>64748924
VTUBERS WILL NEVER DO ANYTHING WRONG BELIEVE ALL WOMAN DONT QUESTION THE NARRATIVE AND PAY WOMAN YOU SWINE
IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ALL WOMAN YOURE WOMAN HATER AND A CORPO SLUT
AAAAAAAAIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
RREEE

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>>64748924
The point isn't really about the companies being evil. It's that working for a 2view corpo is incredibly shady. Think about how the other talents in that company feel having the baggage of an entire gen graduating dropped on them? It must be demoralizing as fuck to wake up to that news.
But yes, V-Dere aren't to be trusted.

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>>64746104
All the so-called “dramafags” on this board are casual shitters who ignore all the interesting drama from small corpos in favor of
>this Niji doesn’t get paid enough
>this Niji said they didn’t like baseball
>this Niji collabed with a male (it’s actually the hundredth time they’ve done so; no one is surprised or complaining)
>this NijiEN (always Finana) is a 3view because they’re boring
They don’t even realize how boring their stories are, because they never venture outside their anti-Niji circlejerks, so they’ve never had anything even remotely juicy or interesting to share with people. It’s like bragging about your generic Voltorb card your friend dumped onto you, while there’s a kid in the other classroom showing off his holographic Charizard.

They’re drama-casuals. They’re the ones summoning LET_ME_CANCEL_HER when the have to beat Malenia. They’re the game journalists of dramafags

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>>64746104
So what happened with Niji this time?

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>>64746104
You really couldn’t find any actual yabs to post about Phase.

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>>64746104
nijicope

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>>64746104
where's pomus vtuber of the year award?

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>>64746104
Seriously speaking, people talk about Niji more because it is more popular than the small corpos. Niji is a successful Vtuber company, otherwise they would have gotten bankrupt by now.

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>>64750941
>Niji is a successful Vtuber company, otherwise they would have gotten bankrupt by now.

just take infinite debt and your smol company never goes under despite not making money.

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>>64749901
Vdere have stagnated and kawaii is inclining. Vdere may have won the battle of public opinion, but I believe that kawaii will win the war of attrition.

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>>64751592
It's a shame you're memeing, 'cause Kawaii has some really good girls.

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>>64751746
shh don't tell him, we have enough refugees already.

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>>64746104
wtf is phase really that yabless?
I feel like they should have the most but I really can't think of any besides yuri and maybe minor hogwarts shit

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>>64750820
If I post the real phase yab the phase janny will come after me. suffice to say no one has forgotten pippa's crimes.

>>64750941
fair enough, niji yabs can be funny but it's good to keep things in perspective and not forget that most small corpos would kill to be in niji or holo.

>>64751746
Lua and Nami are so cute.

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>>64751395
>just take infinite debt

works for countries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt
works for companies https://www.statista.com/statistics/1235574/most-indebted-companies/

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>>64751746
Most would say nene and lua but Shee Icho is really underrated.

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>>64751395
Loans require collateral, so if you run out of assets while having decreasing revenue, you can't take any more debt. That's why most small Vtuber companies fail in 1 year or less. The fact that Holo and Niji survived for 5+ years is really an exception.

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>>64751905
Phase has a lot of minor yabs but nothing corpo-killing.
>Lia often goes off her meds and does unhinged shit that gets her streams privated, like the chris-chan streams.
>Tenma and Pippa had a falling out last year because Pippa's toxic fans were spamming in Mii-chan's chat
>Pippa literally doxxed a Holo girl on twitter and got her twitter privileges taken away for a month and a public apology from Sakana
>Panko promised feet pics as a donothon goal and never delivered
>Pippa ______________ that _______ and pretended it wasn't her

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>>64751905
aside from rm shit its fairly clean

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>>64751905
Lumi covers her tracks well.

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>>64746269
Nijisanji is WAY bigger and more popular in Japan. VShojo is popular in the west.

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>>64746104
>>AkioAir self-destructs due to not paying their talents for MONTHS
What killed AkioAIR was the fact the owner knowingly hired a minor to groom and play league with, something the rest of the girls were not comfortable with.

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>>64753007
I forgot about that, you're right. Though it came out after the fact that he didn't pay them for months and they stuck around just to avoid drama. The minor was the last straw.

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>>64748554
To be fair they were better at the hiring and definately didn't try and hire more lewdtubers but the damage was already done. Riifu was one thing but the chair yab was the nail in the coffin.

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>>64752141
I'm on team Charzu.

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>>64752427
Lia's CWC stream was one of the best, shame fishman wouldn't let her do another one. If she had been tard wrangled by Pippa in a part 2 it would have been great.
Also you forget the biggest Lia yab, the male on stream randomly invading during the donothon.

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>>64753209
Charzu Shee and Isla are the best kawaii's and it's not even close.

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>>64746104
It is strange that this keeps happening. Once upon a time, both Hololive and Nijisanji were small and they ended up becoming the top two agencies in the industry, ruling everything with an iron fist. The only other company that has a chance of even joining their ranks is Brave Group, but they're taking a very strange path towards that. Every other VTuber company has been unable to overcome certain hurdles in their growth.

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>>64753394
>they're taking a very strange path towards that.
Strange in what way?

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>>64753394
vtubing as an industry has somewhat stabilized over the last year or two. the corpos that went in expecting to get rich quick or scam their talents are mostly dead or dying. Niji and Holo went through their black company years back in 2019 and are in a stable place now. the only company from the west I could see reaching that level of success is Phase Connect. indies are also a lot more wary these days of black companies and with the rise of indie vtubing they're less desperate to get into a corpo if it seems shady. you're better off just doing your twitch reps and getting big organically than relying on a corpo.

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>>64746104

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>>64753962
They're a holding company now that owns 10+ different VTuber companies, so they're either buying out the competition or creating new companies and hoping one of them makes it big.

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>>64754434
kek ninasharts will never live it down.

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>>64750288
Keep downplaying it, maybe next time nijiEN will have a full 3D concert with chairs included

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>>64754705
Didn't Sony try to go at it in a similar way?

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>>64746104
Yuri didn't run off with any money
There was a $4000 donation goal she had for 2-3 months for a new PC because she couldn't play games anymore. 50% of that went to Phase, and the $2000 went to her PC which she took photos of, built, and used for a couple weeks before she was terminated.
If every person got a refund, Phase only lost $2000, however multiple fans were tweeting in response to her termination that they did not want refunds and wanted all $4k to go to her
https://twitter.com/KenshiAkuma/status/1650371640113389569

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>>64746104
Eien is doing well.

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>>64756286
aren't they like 40 viewers average now?

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>>64752427
>pippa literally doxed a Hololive girl
no she didnt, its literally the same thing as any of the other girl's PLs except she HAPPENED to be a flesh idol
She also just tangently referenced it, like saying that [REDACTED] has a drinking problem or [REDACTED] was doing stuff in japan before HL
these women did not spring up out of the ground

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>>64757133
KFP doxxed their oshi more by responding to Pippa's comment

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>>64754705
ohh so thats who the globie girls are owned by

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>>64746865
Hololive was pretty yab filled in 2020-21 and even a bit in 22, it was basically one thing after another, from Mel to the disaster of HoloCN, to the pretty much forced graduation of coco and then kinda forcing her long time roommate and best friend to move out.
Honestly even nowadays there's still shit that happens like towa being somewhat forced to participate in an event that she was borderline uncomfortable with.
In EN the biggest thing is that a lot of talents seem extremely burned out and hololive has been pretty reluctant to give talents the same stuff JPs have.
It's all minor stuff don't get me wrong but yeah you're right a lot of people are happy to be in their respective corporations

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>>64757133
go back to x faggot

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>>64746104
>conveniently omits the fact that most of those corps are still around, and their problems were actually specific talents who aren't there anymore
>conveniently ignores the entire Zaion drama
Well anon if you want to stay loyal to Niji it's your choice. Just remember that they aren't loyal to (You).

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>>64752427
Panko delivered though

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>>64750288
Nijisanji is a black company

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>>64758200
no I dont think I will, call a jannie

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>>64758733
>most of those corps are still around
Tsunderia, AikoAir, Cyberlive, and Shirayuri are all gone. Wactor is effectively dead and VReverie looks like it'll die soon with literally every single girl there activating their PLs and following each other. Eien and Kawaii could have very well also died from their problems but they toughed it out.

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>>64751905
Lia donothon.

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>>64759935
AkioAir isn't completely gone. They have an entire branch of trainees still unheard of.

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>>64754434
Nina's spite towards Niji management knows no boundaries, and VShojo capitalizes on it to look good themselves. Not a bad strat.

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>>64759166
2% unironically doesn't make sense and has been disproven by several threads and even people in /#/s. Mysta was a multimillionaire despite being in Niji for a year and a half while never coming close to making that in superchats or streamlabs and even with a 50% cut of voice packs, most voice packs don't even go for 10 USD and at most you have 2 per month. His fans would have to buy like 10k per month to match what he ended up with.
You also have the financial reports that showcase anycolors income off of merch is pretty similar to cover's % wise
So either cover pays 2% for merch nowadays too or the 2% came from a dramafag who claimed to have an inside source he couldnt mention by name and documents backing up said source that he couldnt provide to the public for......reasons
>but kuzuha-
Made a tweet in like 2019, the company has changed contracts and shit since then, several times in fact.
>b-but mysta-
Was so fucking retarded that he tried to tell people that savings accounts were a scam by the bank to steal your money, refused to get help finding an account from anycolor and then ended up being nearly half a million USD in debt due to it.
>>64758733
Zaion literally continually caused problems because of her temper tantrum over not being able to use her genshin account on stream due to its ambassador status.
Everyone from Niji who tried to keep in contact with her post firing ended up distancing themselves from her because of her menhera tendencies. You also have the fact that some of the stuff in the list of reasons that was originally mocked can now be seen in full as Dees Nuts has effectively caused an entire candy brand to be rebranded for being "too similar"

Essentially instead of blindly believing drama shitters, you should actually look up some of the shit

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>>64751905
Maybe you should actually watch Phase and see for yourself rather than believing every schizo shitposts from antis in this shithole.

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>>64760807
Fun fact the 2% rrat was fabricated entirely by some anon here because he thought it would be funny. No one even pretended it was real, it was meant to be a joke mocking Mysta complaining about his earnings even though he's a millionaire. The guy was pretending to be poor and whining about his income while we knew for a fact that Luxiem was selling millions of dollars worth of merch and he could only be "poor" if they saw none of that money, which other livers totally refuted.

Then Falseeyed saw it and "reported" it as factual based on anonymous sources aka /vt/ because he's a drama-seeking faggot.

Then kson saw his video and assuming he was telling the truth(because why would a "journalist" report something completely fabricated?) replied to him.

Then schizos used kson's reply to "confirm" it's true because kson would never reply to something that isn't true.

Now its been nearly a year of people repeating a total fabrication as if it's factual, to the point it's even penetrated into Twitter and Twitch chat entirely off a fake video using a /NijiEN/ shitpost as its only "source."

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>>64746909
Fuck off, Nene.
>>64748095
It was proven at least as well as anything else ever is around here.

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>>64752427
The thing with Lia is that the docs keep on switching her meds every few months and they never work.
>>64755837
Yet if the rrat about her having a personal paypal for the piggies were true, they could get a refund and give her the money still anyway.

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>>64757133
>haha I'm just """subtly""" referencing the time a vtuber got sexually assaulted IRL aren't I quirky???
Pippa was and is a dickhead for doing that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64762028
It turns out brain meds are hard and actually we barely know what the fuck we're doing.

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>>64762078
She was referencing a time but no sexual assault happened, catalog-chama

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>>64760732
The weird thing is that she's done practically nothing since she said that. She's released an original song that management made 0 effort to promote to the point where it's still under 100k views nearly a month after release.
Vshojo is having another big event soon with another corp even but nobody outside of mouse and kson are going.
3d? None.

In Niji she talked about wanting to make her own terraria server, her own sea shanty, to do more original songs and covers but that drive seems completely gone. And while I get that it's only been 2 months, her joining of vshojo was planned months ago and you'd think she'd have a little bit more to show for it. Like especially if it was management shutting down these ideas last minute, you'd think there'd be just something else outside of a flop of an original song that has had 0 promotion behind it.
I'll also point out that the coolest sponsorship vshojo has with the original PC cases hasn't featured anyone since henya joined.

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>>64762078
never said she wasnt, still not doxing and not something no one knew about before if you were on here

[Anonymous No.]

>>64762188
lmao it's another coco -> kson scenario
honeys are in for a rude awakening kek

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>>64761949
>Now its been nearly a year of people repeating a total fabrication as if it's factual
Welcome to the modern mainstream media, a shame it came to vtubing so quickly.

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>>64747454
half of these legit prove op right fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>64746104
Look into what happened to Skullgirls franchise and you'll have your answer. And no, it's not the sjw invading and taking over, it's females with not understanding their biological imperative for safety and security isn't a viable business strategy when all the money is made in taking calculated risks.

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>>64762188
I don't think she cares about making content anymore because Twitch breeds a culture of laziness. Why do projects when you can just...be a react streamer? Look at how Henya's content has changed to just watching Youtube all day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64751940
Do it pussy literal nothing burgers otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

How can I start small vtuber corp so I can find a autistic wife and then it *coincidently* all falls apart after that relationship gets exposed

[Anonymous No.]

>>64762415
>>64762283
It genuinely feels that way. The worst part is that at least kson is basically in charge of the jp side of things while people like matara are always gonna play second fiddle to people like mousey. And don't get me wrong I like and respect mousey but she's constantly getting shit while it feels like nobody else does.
It genuinely bothers me that there's a total of one person that still streams and has a nendroid in vshojo

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>>64746104
>Kawaii gen 3 mass graduate and run off with the bag after a $50,000 donothon to start their own corpo
That's shady as fuck, how the fuck Kawaii didn't sue them to oblivion and doxxed them with legal documents?
>>64746909
>had the vdere domain registered before they even left.
That fact alone would make you win a case in court

[Anonymous No.]

>>64763179
>kson is basically in charge of the jp side of things
lol hello tourist

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>>64763468
Kson literally helped get the last two JP hires and was constantly pushing for Mike to get in since she got fired.
Even if you don't want to talk about the fact that she was largely responsible for getting those two hires hired in her company, you still have the facts that her company has reached out and helped her get noticed by game companies and stuff like that and even featured in games.
The company does a lot for her, she really is the face of the JP side

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>>64763678
you have literally no idea what you're talking about lmao stop reading the numbers thread

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>>64746104
There was also that SEA corpo, where the founder was going for a harem route, like fucking a big tittied manager and his cuckqueen gf which was their flagman vtuber was okay with that. She seemed mentally ill and easily taken advantage of, though. Also, that founder retard was burning through his uncle's money or something.
Anons know which one I'm talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

ninasharts will never live it down heh

[Anonymous No.]

>>64763855
Wactor?

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>>64763855
Kometa?

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>>64746104
Most of these companies had their top talents maybe in 3view. Seriously can anybody at all name a WACTOR talent?
Like asking why people care more about Taylor Swifts relationship drama then your local weather girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64761949
>Then kson saw his video and assuming he was telling the truth(because why would a "journalist" report something completely fabricated?) replied to him.
not exactly.
kson saw it in the Japanese news.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64762188
That awful model really doesn’t help. Even the snake option would have been better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64746104
>VShojo bullies one of their founding members out of the company just because she wanted to play wizard game
It wasn't Vshojo that bullied Silver.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64764596
She said it was

[Anonymous No.]

>>64764596
VShojo management didn't do anything to address the issues with Silvervale and protected Froot and wouldn't even do anything when she lied about the charity donations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64752427
one of these are Panko's feet, guess which

[Anonymous No.]

>>64764027
Yeah, I think that one. Actually decided to Google the name and noticed I had this interesting bookmark.
>https://rentry.org/rfeho

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>>64764663
>VShojo management didn't do anything to address the issues with Silvervale
they told her to not stream the game. they literally can't do anything more than that.

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>>64764019
Wactor story is wild, the CEO was fucking a vtuber from the company that had really low numbers and he would use all the superchat earning from the company to buy her new 2Dlive models and even 3D models, he even pay for a 3D concert and her appearing on japanese tv and 3D collabs with other companies or events. The girl would also bully anyone that would question it or was more popular than her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64753268
Lia said she didn't want to become Pippa2 so she stopped doing CWC. Also the point she stopped was good, after that it's constant cross dressing

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>>64746104

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>>64764631
Provide a source for your claims then.

>>64764663
>VShojo management didn't do anything to address the issues with Silvervale
They can't ban free speech on twitter and warned her about playing the game beforehand.
Not to mention you are already moving the goalposts because you said that it was Vshojo that bullied Silver, are you already conceding that point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64746104
Were there really this many corpos? Im surprised.
>IdolCorp fires a girl after finding out she was taking drugs and having sex with her fans AND HER MANAGER for money
Hawt. QRD?

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>>64764758
Except if you remember she was going to do part 2 on her indie account and then got talked out of not doing it. She still wanted to do it.

The occassional CWC reference seemed to be allowed though for a while. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms7JaphK6Jk

[Anonymous No.]

>>64765043
she was abusing medication and the other two things are made up

[Anonymous No.]

>>64765184
Damn now I'm disappointed.
You mean like prescriptions? How unfortunate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64764546
If only they gave her human hands and feet she'd be perfect.

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>>64765148
I remember that arc. Regardless, Lia has her own thing going for her now. She did some testing with content that was similar to other streamers and found out what works for her. Streams about like how the Junko cosplayer killed people is closer to Lia's side of the dramasphere and more her element.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64762188
She's on a faster pace than in Niji despite taking it easier, including views on her music. Cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64761969
dumb vderefag

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>>64758121
Yeah, hololive was pretty actively shit in a number of ways back during its growth spurt. Transitioning from small and private to big and public *tends to* standardize and iron out a lot of the loud retarded shit a company can do with corpo bureaucracy and whatnot, but it just replaces it with "quiet" retarded shit that can become a death by 1000 cuts situation. At least if the people in charge are some mix of retarded and uncaring, ie Nijisanji.

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>>64746104
The whole Kawaii/V-dere thing always seemed extremely weird to me. Both sides have proof of being extremely shady so idk who to side with here.
All I know is Kawaii pretty much died after that whole thing.

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>>64760807
>>64761949
blahblahblah a lot of words
>Selen says on air that the Nijis enter tournaments so often because that's the only money black company doesn't take
>it makes sense that Selen prioritizes tournaments, is a poor loser, gets upset when forced to play with dead weight nubs on her team, that's literally her lunch money and rent she is playing for
>Nijis say that voice packs are the only thing they get a higher cut from because nijisanji black company doesn't have to pay production costs
>Nijis beg for streamlabs donations

What's the real Merch cut Nijis? If Black Company wasn't so ashamed of it, they could make it public.

>>64762348
>fabrication
"Zaion" again said 2% on air 2 weeks ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64766518
>"Zaion" again said 2% on air 2 weeks ago.
She still trying to beat this dead horse? I thought she already figured out she failed to take advantage of the drama whats the point in trying now?

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>>64766518
None of this is true except Zaion being a crazy bitch.

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>>64766329
kawaii just want to lick its wounds and move on. The girls there do like vtubing and streaming, but don't really depend their life on it. I think the ordeal did make the CEO Koshita lost faith in western whores and kinda moved on vtubers after he sold kawaii to Culture.

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>>64746104
>Prism is so irrelevant that antis don't even remember to doompost them

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>>64765384
She was officially explicitly fired for having a relationship with a manager (the HEAD MANAGER of idol in fact). Whether what degree is that being true or idol CEO wishing to power grab is up for debate

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>>64767004
I couldn't think of any Prism yabs because they basically went under the radar after being sold to Sony. Nothing ever happens in that company nowadays.

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>>64767004
Shiki is a WHORE

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>>64767040
"relationship" doesn't mean "fucking". that was pulled out of thin air without any evidence of what exactly they were up to.

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>>64746104
Most of the listed stuff are small details but the male collabs ruin the whole point of vtubers.

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>>64765184
>made up
She literally was on stream advertising you could pay to meet up with NotRiro.
They shitcanned one of their top managers the same day.

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>>64767254
Nigga come the fuck on are you stupid?

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>>64767254
I just said that is what stated on the official company statement regarding the termination.
It also said that she met up and received gifts from fans IRL. However, it is possible that those are fans from her PL days and it was something she has always been doing. She doesn't really treat vtube with tight opsec at all (some other vtuber such as Sayu does the same)

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>>64767004
>Get bought by fucking sony
>Get zero support and almost no benefits from being in such a megatitan
They ended up being another case of a megacorpo trying their hand at a new venture, only to throw little to no money at it and let it slowly die when the fad wears off.

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>>64767368
that doesn't mean fucking either.
>>64767451
the opposite, i don't go around spreading false information. i prefer the facts.

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>>64746104
V&U is winning

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>>64764177
Ironically, WACTOR had the biggest talent from all those, averaging 3k ccv at her peak

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>>64757023
Yes. Literally a groomcord corpo and the way they behave based on the screencaps creeps me out... Its why they cant grow because thats the only thing theyre good at, and you can blame Eri for that.

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>>64767704
>that doesn't mean fucking
yeah you would just meet her to talk and hold hands right? Even though she flicked her bean into your ears on those memba streams.

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The only thing i'm grateful about Wactor is for letting me meet my oshi. Just that. Akira can go fuck himself and I'm glad his company is dying, I do feel bad about his current talents but I have long dipped out from his shitshow.

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>>64765893
Ehh I mean if you wanna try to sue that as an example, sure. In Niji she released her original song a year after debut, the entire song was talking about being burned out and having nothing going for her and her literally being stuck in a dead end situation. In vshojo she released her first song to coincide with the third anniversary of the company and since then neither her nor the company have cared much about it with her burying it under vods and clips and the company shilling the new Froot and Zen song which is just 20k short of overtaking something released nearly a month ago in just a week.

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>>64767080
Is she? I'd fuck shiki she sounds so hot and maybe even has a slight piss kink

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>>64767661
The worst part is the fad didn't even die off, prism is dead solely because Sony gives it no support. There's total of one person in the company who has had any sort of external deals outside of prism, most of the talents don't even have two outfits and it's not like Sony tries to promote their music, or original covers or anything like that.
Literally I thought that would be a better thing that they would be taken over by Sony but they are so poorly managed that I genuinely don't understand why they don't just go indie

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>>64769014
Seriously. They all have enough experience that I'm sure other corpos wouldn't mind scooping them up if they don't want to be indie

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>>64769313
Also that, literally some of them have even collabed with Niji and would at least be 3 views in Niji vs low 2 and Niji would pay for new outfits and even trips to Japan.....

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>>64763817
NTA but any retard can say "lol ur full of shit", I see no substance to (You)r claims.

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>>64761949
>Nijitard trying to memoryhole what the talents actually said on stream

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>>64769848
No one watches streams so it's not a bad strat

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>>64765043
Getting it straight:
* she was abusing her meds and taking money for THAT
* planning an IRL meetup with some vague >>>>>implications
* had some kind of relationship with her manager (who also got shitcanned), no actual details are proven because a bland corporate statement is the only evidence for this part

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>>64766329
>Both sides have proof of being extremely shady so idk who to side with here.
Vdere fans are normal, /pkg/ houses insane unicorn schizos that make Henri and Gabe look well-adjusted.

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>>64767004
Prism doomposts itself in the general and nothing really happens in the company or with the talents there's a meme that these doomposts are the cause of all the other companies getting fucked

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>>64767254
Anon, (You) are writing this on the board where people legitimately feel "cucked", or accuse others of such, because a man and a woman streamed together behind chinese cartoon avatars.

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>>64768128
coom-brained retard

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>>64746104
Don’t shitpost with my oshi you nigger

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>>64768868
Do you actually have evidence for that or is that just your feeling?

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>>64750288
You could go to the numbers thread with the filters for: holo, niji, seethe, gold and read some funny shit almost every day as some anon brings up some funny news from a random fc2 streamer or how some indie fucked up on twitter or some shit. They're the only thread who actively talk about the JP scene at large.

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>>64763678
>>64763179
>>64762188
>>64761949
>>64762283
kill nijibugs
behead nijizhangs
throw nijoids into a trash compactor

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>>64766329
The only shady thing is Kawaii. They had more graduated or terminated talents than active hires(at least until the gen 4 literal discord nepohires), which only the blackest of companies like Wactor, Tsunderia and AkioAir can claim.

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>>64770395
Nah, you are just a naive cuck.

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>>64746104
Pixel Link bros we have a chance

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Literal Niji deflection thread.

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>>64746104
>EIEN collapses after one of their girls gets fired for being too parasocial with her fans
Glad that catalogfags are still getting the facts wrong

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>>64764690
got a bigger resolution?
i know itll be blurry but still

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>>64755837
>Yuri didn't run off with any money
then why was she terminated?

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>>64767004
Our doomposting ends up affecting other corpos

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>>64773332
we don't and will never know
anyone telling you anything to the contrary is mentally ill and can't distinguish his hallucinations from reality

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>>64763452
it was registered 3 days before the public announcement of graduation and wouldve been registered a week after they told management they were quitting. kawaiifags would like you to believe they planned every detail months in advance but really most of their work happened after they told management they had enough and were quitting

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>IdolCorp fires a girl after finding out she was taking drugs and having sex with her fans AND HER MANAGER for money

Man, Riro was based as fuck

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>>64746104
Half of these feel really contrived. Yes companies go bankrupt there is nothing shady about that, shit happens all the time in real life. The idol and phase points are also dumb. Some chicks did something retarded and their respective managements did what they had to do, whoop-de-doo.
Also
>vshojo
>small
wat

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>>64746104
>EIEN collapses after one of their girls gets fired for being too parasocial with her fans, and another girl scams her fans with her boyfriend's gaming chair
They are doing fine right now, probably better than others on that list

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>>64753096
No one fucking cares about kiki or riifu

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>>64762415
>Look at how Henya's content has changed to just watching Youtube all day.

Retarded thread readers who neither watched Pikamee nor Henya

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>>64766329
What I've heard is that gen3 (now vdere) quit because Oceane (who was also part of gen3 but went indie afterwards) was being a cunt and management didn't fire her fast enough for their liking (in the real world you actually have to gather evidence before firing someone, which is why it took so long. Turns out she was not only a cunt but also a dosser.)
Some time later, gen3 was released from their contracts (which means no penalties for them for not fulfilling their contract) then went to form vdere (and two of them have models that are almost a carbon copy of their models they had back in kawaii)
kawaii was left paying refunds for the money that two of them raised with their donothons.
You'll probably hear from derefags "They couldn't tell their side because kawaii hit them with a NDA." but that's a big fucking lie because any bullshit they'd attempt to pull trying to paint themselves as the victims would be immediately shut down, so they decided to play as the silent victims instead
And no, kawaii is not dead at all, it debuted a new gen a few months ago and had a full talent collab less than a week ago, and it's actually inclining now since management finally figured out how ads work

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>>64752427
>not being blessed by the sight of banko's really nice feet

begone, tourist.

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>>64774303
>no one fucking cares
>everyone from xitter to /vt/ named eien the "ballsack chair SEA corpo"
anon...

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>>64746104
Are nijiniggers now at the point where they need to attack small corpos? LMFAO.
The funniest part is that all of those probably give a better pay cut than niji.

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>>64751592
>kawaii is inclining
didn't their new gen flop?

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>>64750925
> pomus vtuber of the year award?
what is it?

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>>64752427
JANNY DELETE THIS NOW

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>>64770587
You can literally read the lyrics they're about how she can't find an escape from a dead end and how even if you call her name she can't wake up.
How she feels like she's just going around and around and is unlucky .

Or do you mean the source for the fact that she released it to coincide with the 3rd anniversary? You can find it on Twitter. Or do you mean that Vshojo hardly advertised it? They posted about it once and retweeted it once. Contrarily Froot and Zens latest song was advertised two days+ in advance and at least one day since it was released.

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This is such a classic /vt/ thread.
You never watch any of those you complain about, and get your information from some retard making up stories filtered 10 times through DeepL

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>>64775618
Regardless of how true it is, there is a reoccurring theme of small vtuber companies literally imploding. Vrev just makes one more added to the list

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>>64775582
>Or do you mean that Vshojo hardly advertised it? They posted about it once and retweeted it once. Contrarily Froot and Zens latest song was advertised two days+ in advance and at least one day since it was released.
I checked it and they tweeted it just as much as the Froot and Zen song.

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>>64775797
I checked and I couldn't find anything outside of a retweet and a tweet when it initially released, a retweet when it went on Spotify and that's it.

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>>64746104
>Anything else I'm missing this year?
yeah, auroraliveVR

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>>64775849
That's 3 tweets + the tweet where she teased the event which was also retweeted.
https://twitter.com/MataraKan/status/1727745647833428226
So literally the same as with Zen and Froot.

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>>64776057
That's two retweets anon. Meanwhile Zen and Froot got a 3 day countdown

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>>64746899
If VShojo was a small corpo then they wouldn't have the power to make /vt/ seethe literally every day

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>>64776440
That's not true. For a while eien made everyone seethe too. Same goes for PC

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>>64776576
>everyone
Half this board probably doesn't know who EIEN are, or care

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>>64757023
>aren't they like 40 viewers average now
No? The fuck

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>>64776620
Many stopped caring when Riifu left.

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>>64776952
Basically this.

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>>64776952
>>64777073
Just your dumbfuck riiflings, good riddance

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>>64777093
I never watched her myself I just know that there were a lot of catalog baits about her. Small corps get bait threads too if they tread too carefully to hololive

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>>64771988
To be a "cuck" I would have to be in a sexual relationship with the vtuber in question first, retard. Please take your meds.

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>>64777093
>riiflings
No? She used to get interesting topics /here/ for being a bootleg Fauna unlike other members whos demographic reeks of too much SEA.

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>>64777507
This. There were a ton of catalog monkeys seething about how she did ASMR and was a green nature themed chuuba and therefore was a discount fauna and that was bad

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>>64747454
Half of this shit is unironic nothingburgers that only catalog on this board cared. Arguably, AR cancellation was the only real yab made by the company, everything else was either talents being extremly retarded and shooting themselves and everyone around them in the feet (Zaion, secret GC stream) or non-issues that were overblown by schizos on this board (Finana's parasocial fucks, Kyo and Enna's offcollab, Ren's hi bird etc.)

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>>64762415
this, i hate nijinigs and their corpo, but at least they have my respect for not making react content so often

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>>64766752
you tell em lucub, defend that company

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>>64746104
That is pretty shady alright. As expected of entertainment industry

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>>64746104
>EIEN collapses
If you're gonna cook up rrats, at least base them on fact

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>>64764690
Panos feet are disgusting. Also why is she black? I thought she was italian.

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>>64777340
oh my bad you weren't one of the top donators and it shows

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>>64779566
True. Literally anyone with half a brain could tell finana was talking about how she disliked fans who became so parasocial that they doxed and sent death threats to people who interrupted their "date" with their oshi.
Enna and Kyo nobody cares about outside of one extremely loud autistic fatass who has to tell everyone that he feels cucked by a guy with literal brain damage
Ren talking to another chuuba (one he actually knows irl) was as big of a nothingburger as you can get. Especially because Kiara and Rissa both have commented on shit or responded to comments made by NijiEn members.

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>>64746104
>V&U not on the list
WE HAVE A CHANCE!!!!!!! KOREA STRONG!!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!