/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone give me the rundown on who won? I ain’t watching a 5 hour stream cuz I’m lazy and fillian has the most annoying voice in existence

[Anonymous No.]

>>64683758
FWMC won its all that matters

[Anonymous No.]

>>64683758
Ironmouse for vtuber of the year
I think Fauna won ASMR RP of the year for some reasons lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>64683758
Ironmouse won every award that she was nominated for including vtuber of the year

[Anonymous No.]

>>64683758
>Can someone give me the rundown on who won? I ain’t watching a 5 hour stream cuz I’m lazy and fillian has the most annoying voice in existence
(You) won, anon

[Anonymous No.]

The funniest part of the awards was chat spamming 2% during when Niji showed up during the best corpo awards

[Anonymous No.]

>>64683758
Just go to the vtuber awards twitter and you can see all the winners.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64684014
this

[Anonymous No.]

>>64684033
Thank you for your sacrifice

[Anonymous No.]

Wait, people actually watched this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64684558
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>64683758
I won best poster award
OP won biggest faggot award
(You) won best supporting character
Matsuri won most stretched pussy award
Mike the Cat won biggest menhera award
Gura won most idle fanbase
Phase Connect bought an award
Filian shit her pants
/vt/ won biggest crybaby award
Twitch won worst platform
Literally who won biggest whore award
Hololive won everything else

[Anonymous No.]

>>64683758
https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/18k7npe/nominations_and_winners_of_filians_vtuber_awards/

[Anonymous No.]

>>64685056
This

[Anonymous No.]

>>64683928
Yeah that included best event and best charity stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64685056
Giga based

[Anonymous No.]

Isn't shit like this the main cause of Imposter Syndrome?
I don't think it's ethical at all to be comparing VTubers to their peers, this goes for people in general.
Everybody is out there doing their best and to outright define who is the best of the best is horrid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64685877
>Yeah that included best event
She didn't deserve that award.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64683758
>winners per group
Hololive 9
Vshojo 5
Indie 4
Nijisanji 3

[Anonymous No.]

>>64685056
OP really deserved it. The ceremony was beautiful.

[Anonymous No.]

I hate that Hololive won a few because now twitchfags will be aware that they exist. I really liked the youtube only community and fandom but now that twitchfags know Hololive is a thing they will shitpost about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64683829
good, that's all that matters

[Anonymous No.]

>>64683758
Hololive is the best vtuber company in the world
And Selen is the best gamer in the world

[Anonymous No.]

>>64689104
>now that twitchfags know Hololive is a thing
>now
Bro Twitchfags have known about Holo for a long time, did you forget the interviews that Mouse had with Mori, Bae, Haachama, and Kiara?

[Anonymous No.]

Selen didn't deserve both Best Gamer or Best FPS Player, but Filian's awards were mostly just a circlejerk and self fellatio

[Anonymous No.]

>>64689104
I can really see how stupid you are from this post and it's honestly hilarious. The projection is so clearly indicative of your unintelligible associative grouping bias that you believe everyone is as blithely unaware of interest spheres outside of their normal tendencies. Stay stupid as fuck lmao. Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>64683829
Fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

These awards just show that vtubing is still a joke of an industry in the west.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64683758
Mori mogged Suisei for best Music Vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>64683758
Holo and Phase Connect won the 2 company awards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64689519
It's true that twitch watchers don't know about hololive though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64689945
>>64689221

[Anonymous No.]

>>64690049
>4 streams in 3 years
Not much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64689945
There's is literally nobody in the vtuber sphere that doesn't know Hololive. That's like a film enthusiast not knowing about Disney.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64689945
Delusional. Twitch chat was literally spamming Holo references for each Holo chuuba that appeared. They were also spamming Holosweep. Everyone who is interested in vtubers knows about Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64690366
Holofans that happened to be using twitch aren't the people that bother me, it's people who now kno0w about hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64691357
Everyone knows about Hololive retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>64685056
>(You) won best supporting character
literally me

[Anonymous No.]

>>64691357
>Everyone there in the twitch chat is actually a Holofan and doesn't normally use twitch. No one from Twitch actually knows about Hololive.
What kind of mental illness is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64691357
>it's people who now kno0w about hololive.
Nigga Holo is like the Apple or McDonald's of the vtuber industry, literally everyone knows them and 4/5 indies or small corpo members will literally cite a holomem as inspiration
/vt/ is the only place on the internet were people will try to convivence you a streamer collective with a combined total of 80 million subs are "obscure" lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>64691564
Hololive and the twitch viewer sphere does not mix. They shouldn't mix in awards. The Emmy's and the Grammy's are different shows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64691679
>Hololive and the twitch viewer sphere does not mix.
???

[Anonymous No.]

>>64683758
R I S I N G . S T A R
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[Anonymous No.]

>>64691747
>3 digit viewers
I knew Roboco wasn't popular, but this is indie tier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64691676
There are fleshtuber spaces with hundreds of millions of combined subs and I probably couldn't name one of them even though I spent 90% of my life watching fleshtubers in some shape or form.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64691679
>Hololive and the twitch viewer sphere does not mix.
Even if we go with your claim (not sure how you got it), You moving the goalpost. Your original point was that twitch watchers don't know about hololive, not that they don't consistently watch them. Which was proven false by the awards, people who watch vtubers on twitch know what Hololive is, even if they don't watch them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64685229
FUCKING MORI winning over Suisei, FUCK OFF

[Anonymous No.]

>>64689104
>>64689221
>thinking Twitch viewers don't know about Hololive because they're on YouTube
How delusional are you faggots
Even if you mainly watch streams on Twitch, everyone uses YouTube and Hololive is everywhere
You guys are the ones with blinders on

[Anonymous No.]

>>64691858
I don't hate her, but this is bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>64692452
She is technically a valid winner if you count her previous incarnation. From a 1k streamer to a 5k streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64685056
>Teary eyed
It's so beautiful

[Anonymous No.]

>>64683758
Fansly won, whole event was sponsored by a porn company that used hololive to promote them

[Anonymous No.]

>>64692033
And if you were in the niches that those people serve then you would know who they are.
Hololive is not a separate niche from vtubers no matter how isolationist they try to be

[Anonymous No.]

>>64692435
This. A lot of people may not touch Twitch at all, however, the people who mainly use twitch will still use YouTube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64692033
Yes, but it is different. The "fleshtuber" are literally the entire industry except for the vtubers.vtubers are like 3% of the entire internet entertainment industry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64692523
even more so if you don't count Pikamee.

[Anonymous No.]

Those that I follow won. As expected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64692523
holy shit, I didn't know she had grown so much.This award should be for rookies anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64692543
this

[Anonymous No.]

>>64683758
>fillian has the most annoying voice in existence
>Let's include a giggle of her during transitions every 10 seconds

[Anonymous No.]

>>64692360
Mori isn't as bad of a singer as she is a rapper. I rather enjoy her singing instead of rapping. Suisei is great too, but let's be real. It's an 英語の award show.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64692360
Yeah. I cringed so much, never heard her shit and never will. I too was sure Suisei was going to win, her voice is angelic. This shit was so rigged.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64693002
Cope. Mori > Suisei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64692676
Gura didn't win. You did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64691485
congrats anon, Im very proud of you

[Anonymous No.]

>>64692853
i wasnt thinking about it when I was watching but reading your post I just keep hearing "ah-ha!" in my brain now

[Anonymous No.]

>>64692676
why on earth are you paying $10 a month for Gura mem

[Anonymous No.]

>>64693002
I wonder why there was no Marine, she got a few popular songs this year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64693002
It was an unfiltered popularity contest. Suisei lost because Calli is more popular. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64693986
>Suisei lost because Calli is more popular
Based.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64693930
Nominees were fan voted which means Marine is less popular than whoever those two ENtubers are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64683829
>Won an EOP award
>Speech in nips
YWNBJ

[Anonymous No.]

>>64689104
they were already aware, they just dont care
twitchfags dont like actual vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>64692360
>Suisei
I get crying over Mori winning in general but c'mon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64691858
>DAYOMINATION

[Anonymous No.]

>>64692360
im so mad about that

[Anonymous No.]

>>64692360
>Your sweet sweet tears

[Anonymous No.]

My mori won this award, plz tell me how much this award is worth.
I don't care if it is an incest award by Twitch as usual.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64696142
Hololive is just a brothel these days anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>64684558
37k when i stopped by. but damn the twitch chuubas were so bad i had to dip

[Anonymous No.]

>>64696142
>twitchfags dont like actual vtubers
They love the platform, not the talent.
So they love Tiktok react streams, because they can't download the app for religious reasons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64693986
>It was an unfiltered popularity contest.
Maybe for the final round, but the nominations are filtered as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64685056
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

I copypasted this from >>64685229 so that you faggots don't have to go to reddit.
I can't be bothered to greentext for formatting

Nominated: Suisei, Callie, Nihmune, Obkatiekat
Winner: Callie
Best Art Vtuber:
Nominated: Ina, Yuhiiho, Anny, Yoclesh
Winner: Ina
Best Fps Vtuber
Nominated: Botan, Selen, Froot, Shu
Winner: Selen
Best Minecraft Vtuber:
Nominated: Fauna, Kaela, Henya, Pomu
Winner: Kaela
Best Roleplay/Asmr Vtuber:
Nominated: Fauna, Cottontailva, Vox, Sinder
Winner: Fauna
Best Just Chatting/Zatsu Vtuber:
Nominated: Kiara, Shylily, Matara, Gosegu
Winner: Shylily
Best Tech Vtuber:
Nominations: Vedal, Zentreya, Project Melody, Codemiko
Winner: Vedal
Funniest Vtuber:Nominated: Kuro, Zentreya, Chibidoki, Murdercrumpet
Winner: Chibidoki
Most Chaotic Vtuber
Nominated: Kobo,Chibidoki, Trickywi, Pipkin Pippa
Winner: Kobo
League of Their Own:
Nomiated: Fuwamoco, Onigiri, Zentreya, Marine
Winner: Fuwamoco
Hidden Gem:
Nominations: Omi_Vt, Fufu,, Caelum, Kaichinzu
Winner: Fufu,
Rising Star:
Nominations: Henya, Sinder, Bbyruthless, Camila
Winner: Henya
Best Vtuber Org:
Nominated: Hololive, Nijisanji, Idol, Vshojo
Winner: Hololive
Rising Vtuber Org:
Nominations: 3AM, Vdere, Vchiban, Phase Connect
Winner: Phase Connect
Vtuber Clipper:
Nominations: Lowerfortclips, Sakasandayo, Roachchan, Cooksie
Winner: Cooksie
Vtuber Parents of the Year:
Nominations: Dyarikku, JJinomu, Iron Vertex, 2Wintails
Winner: 2Wintails
Best Philantropic Event:
Nominations: Mika's 60 Hour Charity, Vexoria's BCRF, Vox Akuma's Save Charity
Winner: Mika's 60 Hour Charity
Most Dedicated Fanbase:
Nominated: Chumbuds (Gura) Guildies (Shoto) Noombas (Nihmune) Kindred (Vox)
Winner: Chumbuds (Gura)
Best Concert Event:
Nominated: Connect The World, Candy Pop Explosion, Isegye Festival
Winner: Connect The World
Best Streamed Event:
Nominated: Hololive Sports Festival, Vsaikyo, Ironmouse Subathon
Winner: Ironmouse Subathon
Stream Game of the Year:
Nominations: Only Up, Suika Game, Baldurs Gate 3, Holocure
Winner: Suika Game
Lewdtuber of the Year:
Nominations: Fefe, [Project Melody](https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody)), Fefe, Cottontailva, Saruiel
Winner: Project Melody
Miss Vtuber:
Nominations: Ironmouse, Silvervale, Elira, Amalee
Winner: Ironmouse
Gamer of the Year:
Nominated: Bijou, Kuzuha, Selen, Rainhoe
Winner: Selen
Vtuber of the Year:
Nominated: Pekora, Shylily, Salome, Ironmouse
Winner: Ironmouse

[Anonymous No.]

>>64696375
So not even the ceiling of Holo JP regular streams level. And none of Holo JP girls won a thing. What a meaningful award!

[Anonymous No.]

>>64696619
The real winners:

I won best poster award
OP won biggest faggot award
(You) won best supporting character
Matsuri won most stretched pussy award
Mike the Cat won biggest menhera award
Gura won most idle fanbase
Phase Connect bought an award
Filian shit her pants
/vt/ won biggest crybaby award
Twitch won worst platform
Literally who won biggest whore award
Hololive won everything else

[Anonymous No.]

>>64696619
>Best Fps Vtuber
>Nominated: Botan

[Anonymous No.]

>>64683829
fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>64691959
Roboco-san has a small but dedicated following. She is the forgotten one in Gen0 and my super cute oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>64683829
Over Marine. Shame on all the dogfuckers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64689104
They know it but they're coomers without brains so they can't stay engaged if the vtuber doesn't show her pussy every 2 minutes, and they need some random stamps from 10 years ago to spam too

[Anonymous No.]

>>64698171
They are better than Marine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64684033
KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>64692360
>>64693002

[Anonymous No.]

>>64701267
Because you can understand them even with your condition?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64696496
They were based on unfiltered votes as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64683829
fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>64701455
They were not. There's no reality in which Botan gets nominated as the "FPS vtuber of the year" based on unfiltered votes.
Not a single person that voted in this show knows who Salome is and a very small number of them know Kuzuha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64696619
>Best Streamed Event:
>Nominated: Hololive Sports Festival, Vsaikyo, Ironmouse Subathon
>Winner: Ironmouse Subathon
Paying people to sleep seems really entertaining indeed

[Anonymous No.]

>>64701518
What would be point of rigging the nomination in favor of Botan of all people?
It's just holodrones who can't think of a HoloEN worth nominating but remember some Botan clips.
Also everyone knows who Salome and Kuzuha are.

[Anonymous No.]

OK but what is the rrat of the year?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64701643
>What would be point of rigging the nomination in favor of Botan of all people?
Nominating a randon JP that can get beaten up in the real voting stage. filian just forgot it's not 2020 anymore and Botan isn't an FPS vtuber.
>It's just holodrones who
If these "holodrones" were voting, they would have voted for Aqua.
>Also everyone knows who Salome and Kuzuha are.
Not enough to get them nominated. Nobody that watched filian is going to even think about those names when writing names in.
If the actual niji fanbase that seemed to be voting was deciding on nominations as well you would see Selen in Vtuber of the year instead of fucking Salome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64701742
They just hid it as best music vtuber.
the sloppy toppy video

[Anonymous No.]

>>64701789
The people who voted in this were obviously not just Filian's viewers, considering HoloEN won almost every category they were nominated in.
Salome is more well-known than you think. She had a collab with Arino for God's sake. She's one of the only vtubers I've seen mentioned outside of vtuber spaces.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64701964
>Arino
Literally who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64701964
Salome is not well knowm among EN viewers and those that know her wouldn't nominate her for vtuber of the year.
>She's one of the only vtubers I've seen mentioned outside of vtuber spaces.
Only in Japan. Similarly, most hololive fans have no idea Marine was on TV and I'm supposed to believe that they would still nominate her especially when they already nominated Fuwamoco.
The nominations are bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64692360
to be fair suiseis music is pretty shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>64702093
I'm talking entirely about EN spaces. Salome is much more well-known than you realize. You unironically have it backwards, there's no chance she would have gotten a similar nomination in Japan, in 2022 sure but not today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64702221
nigger nobody in EN spaces knows about Salome as anything but the desuwa girl who got really popular back in 2022

[Anonymous No.]

>No Aqua in best FPS
>No Patra in best ASMR
>No JP speaker in best zatsu
>No Miko or Marine in funniest
>Idol over Vspo in best org
>No Holo 4th fes in best concert
>No Niji Koushien in best streamed event
>No Marine in VOTY
Yeah these awards don't mean shit lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>64702093
>most hololive fans have no idea Marine was on TV
>when they already nominated Fuwamoco
You EOP morons are not most hololive fans. Go back to retarddit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64683829
Won despite (((them))) trying to divide holobros votes by inserting 2 holos in that category. Same as with Minecraft

[Anonymous No.]

>>64702221
>I'm talking entirely about EN spaces.
So am I.
>Salome is much more well-known than you realize.
Nobody that watches EN vtubers is going to nominate Salome. They would nominate all of Vshojo including every single ex member, Selen and whoever else is big in nijiEN these days and any other Twitch indie that has at least 4 digit views before they would nominate Salome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64683829
fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>64689104
Omg Twitch fags know have knowledge of Youtube. You bred and born in America right? Would explain everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64702297
That doesn't contradict what I said.
>>64702383
Except they did nominate her. Just because reality doesn't match up to your intuition doesn't mean there's a conspiracy by filian and her friends to rig the vote.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64702318
>You EOP morons
>You
???
I know that Marine is bigger than basically every other person that appeared on that show. I also know that the average holoENfag cares more about le nerizzler meme than they do about Marine appearing on TV or Pekora having a sololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64698171
>>64701267
They didnt want to win over Marine and they dont think they're better than Marine

[Anonymous No.]

>>64702318
You lost jpkek? The yellow whore dicksucking board is two blocks down

[Anonymous No.]

>>64702438
>Except they did nominate her.
Except there's no way that they did. You already have nijifags voting for Selen in several categories and suddenly there's fucking Salome in vtuber of the year. That makes no sense.
>Just because reality doesn't match up to your intuition doesn't mean there's a conspiracy by filian and her friends to rig the vote.
There is no reality in which there's enough people in the EN spaces to nominate Salome over any well known EN tuber. If I'm supposed to believe that the EN nijifans suddenly care about their japanese vtubers then they would have voted for Kuzuha seeing how I'm supposed to believe that they got him nominated for a different category.

[Anonymous No.]

how does kobo win most chaotic streamer over pippa? lolwat

[Anonymous No.]

>>64702602
Salome is more of a "company representative" than Kuzuha, despite the fact Kuzuha gets a lot more viewers. If this was based on actual viewers of the people in question, Kuzuha would obviously win, but it's actually people voting along tribal lines. There just isn't anyone in NijiEN who could conceivably be a candidate for this award, (who would you pick? Pomu? Vox?), so they went with the company mascot.
Again, it's actually more likely for this to happen in EN than JP, because Japan is over Salome by this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64702831
pipwho?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64702831
>why did my lol so randumb xD pickme girl not win chaotic streamer award

[Anonymous No.]

>>64702831
Holobots. Number one criterion is the blue dorito.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64702831
Probably because Kobo is much more chaotic? Taking about "schizo" shit like conspiracies is not chaotic in itself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64683758
The circle was jerked and now the catalog is even more full of shit than usual, nothing worth mentioning in any more detail than that

[Anonymous No.]

>>64703012
>say arra arra XD

[Anonymous No.]

>>64702972
u mad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64685056
>Phase Connect bought an award
At least they paid, unlike Idol

[Anonymous No.]

>>64703012
>aking about "schizo" shit like conspiracies is not chaotic in itself.
nobody said it was... ? you've obviously never watched a single stream of hers

[Anonymous No.]

>>64703070
Enjoy watching your Indonesian cocksleeve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64702972
This would work as an argument if Holo swept but they didn't. First and foremost what matters is that the nominees go out of their way to pester their audience to actually vote because most people simply don't give a shit. Ironmouse was going hard on promoting herself and it shows. In pretty much every case where Holos lost it's because they didn't push like their "competitors" did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64683758
>Can someone give me the rundown on who won?
Towa won

[Anonymous No.]

>>64703135
Enjoy seething about hololive lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>64702860
>Salome is more of a "company representative" than Kuzuha
And that's going to mean EN spaces will nominate her? No fucking way.
>If this was based on actual viewers of the people in question, Kuzuha would obviously win, but it's actually people voting along tribal lines.
Now you're just making shit up. All the nominations are supposed to be based on nothing but the number of votes. There is simply no way that this faction of nijisanji fans "voting along tribal lines" would outnumber any popular ENtuber's fans. It sure is convenient how almost every category just happens to have at least one holo, one niji, one vshojo and one indie.
>it's actually more likely for this to happen in EN than JP, because Japan is over Salome by this point.
And EN never even cared about her. She and Pekora were put there just so people can go "This ENtuber beat the two biggest vtubers from Nijisanji and hololive! Amazing competition!".

[Anonymous No.]

>>64703140
Literally the only Holo who pushed it was Kiara and she lost because she has a tiny audience.
I donno why people post shit like this, almost every winner was a straightforward, obvious choice based on CCV (JP vtubers excluded), you don't have to rely on bots, "pushing" or any other cope. The biggest vtubers won because it's a popularity contest, no more explanation necessary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64703283
>buzzwords
>lack of reading comprehension
Thanks for making it clear you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64685229
>>64696619
>twitchfags did the nominations
>eops did the voting

[Anonymous No.]

>>64703283
>obvious choice based on CCV (JP vtubers excluded)
How did JP vtubers get nominated at all when the nominations were also supposed to be based on fan vote?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64702457
Exactly. The twins are alright, their fanbase is pure cancer. They should have gotten that nomination instead of chumkeks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64703433
Would be really interesting to know which fanbase you are and why you're so salty about her losing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64703265
>And EN never even cared about her. She and Pekora were put there just so people can go "This ENtuber beat the two biggest vtubers from Nijisanji and hololive! Amazing competition!".
This narrative makes absolutely no sense because it's not a surprise that English viewers voted for English-language vtubers rather than people they neither watch nor understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64703849
>salty
You only continue to expose yourself as a retard. I don't give a shit about Kiara and I don't give a shit about Shylily. All I'm doing is stating facts. You're desperate to turn this into a bias thing because you're so attached to this that you're feeling personally attacked by me pointing out said facts because it implies that your oshi didn't win through ability and you can't handle that.

[Anonymous No.]

wait kanata is here

[Anonymous No.]

>>64703956
>it's not a surprise that English viewers voted for English-language vtubers rather than people they neither watch nor understand.
But they totally would nominate people they neither watch nor understand?
YOUR narrative makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64685056
>mike the cat
fucking kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>64703956
Which makes no sense they were nominated in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64704028
>i-im stating facts
You're stating ridiculous lies like "Holos only lost because they didn't push people to vote". Kiara pushed people to vote and she lost, none of the other Holos pushed themselves or even seemed to notice the event and they won. The purpose of this nonsense is unknown but I'm thinking seething kfp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64704347
>fallacy
>lack of reading comprehension
Care to try again without further proving how retarded you are?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64696619
>worst holo concert of the year wins the best concert event
The absolute state of ENsharts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64704517
You keep using those words, but I don't think you know what they mean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64704886
But they apply. The first sentence in that post is a straw man fallacy which you arrived at due to a lack of reading comprehension. Don't play this game with me anon, you can't win.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64704962
You literally said
>In pretty much every case where Holos lost it's because they didn't push like their "competitors" did.
Who? To whomst does this apply to? Pekora? She did not know the event existed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64703956
Indeed, you just have to look at the list of clippers
>LowEffortClips
phase clipper
>Sakasandayo
fauna clipper
>RoachChan
vshojo/twitch clipper
>Cooksie
lewd/twitch clipper
>>64704236
>>64704271
That's what happens when they have to pad their nominations with names they have heard mentioned by those they actually watch

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>>64705059
>That's what happens when they have to pad their nominations with names they have heard mentioned by those they actually watch
That's exactly what I'm saying. filian just cut off the last one or two nominees and put whatever JP name seemed to fit in some of the categories to make the awards seem like some kind of global industry titan showdown.

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>>64704236
>>64704271
The people who did the nominations and who did the final vote were different people, the latter group was much larger.
They picked some of the biggest vtubers from across corporations and countries, makes sense honestly. Final voters picked the one they watched.

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>>64705053
>lack of reading comprehension
Keep trying anon. I'm sure some day you'll get it.

Let's make this nice and easy so even someone with a room temperature I.Q, such as yourself, can potentially grasp the concept. If Pekora had actually been pushing her fans to vote do you think Ironmouse would have still won over her? If Marine had actually been pushing her fans to vote do you think FuwaMoco would have still won over her? If Suisei had actually been pushing her fans to vote do you think Calli would have still won over her? If JP in general had been pushing for votes do you think a person sleeping would have still won over the SportsFes?

Answer those questions honestly and you should be able to realize that actually directing the fans to vote is in fact the most important thing about this. It's not the only factor of course but it is the primary one. This can not be disputed. You even said yourself that Pekora wasn't even aware of this shit which tells me you're either genuinely retarded or you're aware that what I'm saying is true but you're desperate to spin this because you think I'm defending someone you dislike and your ego can't handle that.

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>>64691676
>with a combined total of 80 million subs
Lets be real, the overlap of the channels is massive

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>>64689941
Guess fishman sponsoring all that money to this event paid off.

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>>64705782
Oh, so now we have it, you're a /jp/cuck. Nobody cares, YWNBJ.

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>>64705871
>immediately falls back on a fallacy
Concession accepted.

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>>64685056
>Filian shit her pants
again?

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>>64705648
>The people who did the nominations and who did the final vote were different people, the latter group was much larger.
The first group was entirely made up of people who watch filian. There's no fucking way a single JP vtuber would get a nomination from them.
The nominations were closed after 3 days before the word about event started even getting around.
>They picked some of the biggest vtubers from across corporations and countries
They did so completely randomly. Botan is not an FPS vtuber and nobody outside of Japan has ever cared about Salome.

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>>64706341
If filian is rigging the vote, why did she do so "completely randomly"? Makes more sense for a large group of mostly-ignorant people to do that than a conniving bitch.

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>>64705782
Actually, yes. The JP bros would have been filtered by the eigo voting page. The same issue would have gone the other way if Mori asked her fans to vote in some JP contest where the voting page was in moon runes. It's impressive the JP heavy hitters in the big two (as well as that Korean girl) had enough impact to get nominations. The Indos didn't have a problem because they can read english, which is why BTFO everyone in their categories.

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Curious how there were literally zero black vtubers nominated

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>>64706961
Selen literally won two awards what the fuck are you talking about

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>>64692452
I mean what's not valid about it? She has risen greatly this year has she not?

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>>64706889
>Actually, yes. The JP bros would have been filtered by the eigo voting page. The same issue would have gone the other way if Mori asked her fans to vote in some JP contest where the voting page was in moon runes.
The voting process was not complicated and a vast majority who are watching vtubers are tech savvy enough to know how to install a translation extension. We're not talking about 50 year olds who don't even know adblockers exist.

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>>64706754
I never said she is rigging the vote. The vote clearly represents the kind of people that were watching the event. The nominees did not.
The random ass JP nominees were put there so people can say so and so went up against the biggest JP vtubers and won. It gives a sense of importance to the award when it's not just other EN vtubers that everyone knows but also recognizes as being less popular than whoever ended up winning.
Again, Botan is not an FPS vtuber. That's a complete random bullshit nomination which shows how poorly thought out the nominees decided by filian were. You can go watch filian's VOD where she nominates some vtubers herself. She is completely clueless and the final nominees reflect that.

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>>64691858
She deserved it

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This event was just a way for Filian to shill herself while freely using other's content.

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>>64707058
Are you really expecting reason from troons?

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>>64691858
Would have made more sense for her to be in the vtuber of the year category over any of the random JPs

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>>64692452
That's the same problem I have with her being nominated for that. It's basically guaranteed to be shitting on someone else who could use the recognition. She's not a "rising star" just because she redebuted somewhat recently.

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>>64702457
>they dont think
this

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>>64702831
because she's the most chaotic, obviously.

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>>64707390
I think it's more likely that people saw some clips of Botan playing FPS and nominated her than that filian chose her for no reason.

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>>64706754
It wasn't random, everyone got some kind of representation.

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>>64707680
Probably true but c'mon this one is not on them. Just ruffians showing they are not holofans once again.
It's the exact opposite of that stupid pic faggots spammed on their debut. The dogs flooded the community with fake fans. Bau fucking bau.

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>>64704236
You already know the answer to this. This event would be a complete joke if some of the biggest vtubers in the world weren't included, even if EOPs don't watch them.
We are talking about 20k+ on regular streams with 100k+ viewers during events. If Filian didn't nominate some of the vtubers that pulls this off, everyone would be saying how this event is just "twitch's clique" event, or a worse streamy.

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>>64696067
Ah I see, so I guess they just know Suisei as that holo singer girl

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>>64708597
It's easy for EOPs to nominate someone like Peko or Salome for the top award, because they're well known for being popular and you can get an idea about them from watching clips. But you don't see any JPs in the Minecraft category or whatever because EOPs don't follow them closely enough to even know who to nominate.

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>>64689745
as opposed to what lol. Industry awards being retarded is the standard.

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>>64707923
There's no way there's enough people that just randomly watched a clip of Botan playing FPS during the three days that nominations were open and decided that they really want to nominate her over any EN vtuber.
Someone did watch a clip of Botan playing FPS, and that's filian who likely searched "hololive fps" and Botan was the first result.
I literally just did that search and all the top results are Botan lmao

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>>64708942
That... confirms what I'm saying? There's a bunch of clips of Botan playing Apex and that's why EOPs know her? Why do you think it's more likely Filian did this than random people? And only for the FPS category, not for funniest vtuber, asmr, minecraft, zatsu anything else except where JPs are well-known even in the west?

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>>64708597
>This event would be a complete joke if some of the biggest vtubers in the world weren't included, even if EOPs don't watch them.
Now it's an even bigger joke.
>If Filian didn't nominate some of the vtubers that pulls this off, everyone would be saying how this event is just "twitch's clique" event, or a worse streamy.
Everyone justifying the results is already calling it that and saying you shouldn't expect a JP vtuber to win because only the twitch clique fans are voting.

>>64708863
>It's easy for EOPs to nominate someone like Peko or Salome for the top award
Peko maybe but doubtful. Salome no fucking way. Nobody watching nijiEN would nominate Salome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64685056
>(You) won best supporting character

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>>64709150
>Peko maybe but doubtful. Salome no fucking way. Nobody watching nijiEN would nominate Salome.
Do you have some evidence for this? Salome seems pretty well-known to me.

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>>64709241
Salome's glory days was last year. She's been irrelevant since after summer 2022.

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>>64709528
That doesn't mean she's not well-known? In fact I think anyone who follows Vtubers casually knows about her, even if they don't watch her, she was such a breakout success in 2022 that you couldn't miss her. Again, please show me some evidence that NijiENfags don't like her.

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>>64683877
Yea this is just bunch of friends patting each other on the back with holos thrown in for plausible deniability. It's like when billionaires hire their artfag friends to certify that a glob of smeared ketchup on a canvas is worth millions of dollars.

I nominated an actual pornstar for the lewd category and I doubt they even checked her channel because she only speaks Japanese.

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>>64709131
>That... confirms what I'm saying?
It only confirms whoever decided the nominees did it.
>that's why EOPs know her?
EOPs wouldn't be searching "hololive fps" to look for who to vote. They will just vote for en EN vtuber that plays FPS.
>Why do you think it's more likely Filian did this than random people?
Because she needs a hololive and a nijisanji name in every category that "should" have one so that the awards don't look like an EN/Twitch only circlejerk. She just has no idea who in hololive plays FPS so she search "hololive fps" and picked the first name that popped up.
>not for funniest vtuber, asmr, minecraft, zatsu anything else except where JPs are well-known even in the west?
All of these except funniest (which was some kind of toss up category no one seemed to be excited about) had holoEN nominees. I don't watch EN so I don't know how much they make sense.
Botan is really just an exception that exposes the fact that there were no votes behind the JP nominees due to how nonsensical her nomination was. Marine, Kuzuha, Salome and Pekora were all there just for their name recognition.

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>>64709642
Sure, but she hasn't been a thing for all of 2023 so why would she be nominated for an award in 2023?

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>>64709808
>EOPs wouldn't be searching "hololive fps" to look for who to vote. They will just vote for en EN vtuber that plays FPS.
No, they'll vote for who has the most FPS clips on Youtube. Searching "hololive fps" is not the only way to access those clips, they pop up algorithmically in your feed if you watch a lot of clips. If the most popular holomen for that is Botan, that's who EOPs will think is the top FPS holomen, even if Aqua plays it more and takes it more seriously.
This isn't hard to understand, but you seem bound and determined to not get it.

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>>64709241
Just look at this board. Nobody is talking about Salome except this thread right now.

>>64709642
It means nobody is going to nominate her for vtuber of the year in 2023. Nobody watching NijiEN would vote for her over NijiEN. Nobody is claiming they don't like her, they just like their EN vtubers more.

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>>64709834
Because people still remember what happened a year ago.

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>>64710013
Who do you think would be nominated from NijiEN over her? There's going to be some people that vote for their oshis, but that's going to split the NijiEN vote. Really, only Salome or Kuzuha are candidates for that category at all, I can't think of a single NijiEN member who fits the bill.

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>>64709964
>No, they'll vote for who has the most FPS clips on Youtube.
No, they'll vote for who they know for playing FPS. If the people voting were actually real you would see whoever is known for FPS on the EN side.
>Searching "hololive fps" is not the only way to access those clips
But it is how you will end up only seeing Botan clips and not anyone else.
>If the most popular holomen for that is Botan, that's who EOPs will think is the top FPS holomen, even if Aqua plays it more and takes it more seriously.
Anyone that follows hololive at all knows that Aqua is the FPS player of hololive and not Botan. The only way you will end up thinking it's Botan is if you search for "hololive fps" on youtube.
>This isn't hard to understand, but you seem bound and determined to not get it.
You're the one that doesn't seem to understand that filian's audience is not going to vote for any JP vtubers and can't accept that.

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>>64710321
>No, they'll vote for who they know for playing FPS.
And how will they know that? By watching clips. You've already demonstrated Botan is the most-clipped. That's how she got the nomination.
>Anyone that follows hololive at all knows that Aqua is the FPS player of hololive and not Botan.
Not if they watch clips instead of streams. EOPs aren't going to sit down and watch 5 hours of a stream they can't understand.
>You're the one that doesn't seem to understand that filian's audience is not going to vote for any JP vtubers and can't accept that.
Not when the reasoning to back up that assertion is so obviously flawed and self-contradictory, no.

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>>64710122
>Who do you think would be nominated from NijiEN over her?
Selen. She won two other other categories so why not a third one? If the nominations were a result of fan votes then clearly Selen fans were very numerous and would also vote for her in Vtuber of the year.
>Really, only Salome or Kuzuha are candidates for that category at all, I can't think of a single NijiEN member who fits the bill.
Selen beat Kuzuha in the one category Kuzuha was nominated for. Fun fact: filian nominated Kuzuha for that category on her own stream but couldn't get his name right at that point in time.

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>>64710504
Selen is frankly not big enough. Most of her streams are in the 2-3k range. Nor is she the "face of the company" the way Salome or Kuzuha are. She would need a lot of support from outside the NijiEN fanbase to win anything, I doubt most of her voters in the final round actually watch her streams regularly.
That actually is an interesting detail about her nominating Kuzuha though, it's possible if she hadn't mentioned him he wouldn't be in the category.

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>>64710470
>And how will they know that? By watching clips.
No. Twitchfags do that by watching whatever EN vtubers they know for playing FPS.
>You've already demonstrated Botan is the most-clipped.
No, I only demonstrated that she's the top result when you search for "hololive fps". I personally have seen more FPS clips of Aqua than anyone else in hololive. There was a lot of talk about her being the best female player in Apex when she reached master last season and clips showing people talking about her. The Botan clips on the other hand are all over a year old.
>EOPs aren't going to sit down and watch 5 hours of a stream they can't understand.
They're also not going to nominate a vtuber they can't understand.
>Not when the reasoning to back up that assertion is so obviously flawed and self-contradictory, no.
Nothing wabout what I'm saying is self-contradictory. The idea that JP is expected to lose because it's an EN event but that they also obviously got nominated legitimately over EN vtubers is self-contradictory. It makes no sense at all.

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>>64710775
>Selen is frankly not big enough.
She is bigger than Kuzuha and Salome among the audience that voted in this event.
>She would need a lot of support from outside the NijiEN fanbase to win anything,
She clearly didn't since she won in two categories. She's clearly popular enough to get nominated for a general category like vtuber of the year. You also seem to be implying that the category must have a representative from every company rather than being a straight up popular vote by the fans which is what the nominations were supposed to be.
>it's possible if she hadn't mentioned him he wouldn't be in the category.
She wrote is name as "Hazuka" and that's what it remained as. If her viewers wrote in "Hazuka" but the votes counted towards Kuzuha then that's just as illegitimate as what I'm implying in the first place.

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>>64710795
>No. Twitchfags do that by watching whatever EN vtubers they know for playing FPS.
I donno why you're even arguing with me on this point. EOPs learn about JP chuubas mainly by watching clips, this is indisputable, you're grasping at straws.
>No, I only demonstrated that she's the top result when you search for "hololive fps". I personally have seen more FPS clips of Aqua than anyone else in hololive.
It is literally irrelevant what you personally have seen, especially since you're (allegedly) not an EOP. The fact that searching for "hololive fps" brings up mostly Botan clips is, if not totally conclusive, strong evidence that she's the most-clipped FPS holomen. If you have any actual evidence that Aqua is clipped more, with English translation, feel free to post it.

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>>64711053
>She wrote is name as "Hazuka" and that's what it remained as. If her viewers wrote in "Hazuka" but the votes counted towards Kuzuha then that's just as illegitimate as what I'm implying in the first place.
I will admit that this may have happened, though I don't think it's particularly illegitimate given the context.
It's actually kind of funny you mentioned this because it undermines your case so much, "people voted for kuzuha because filian told them to" is much more believable than "filian rigged the nominations for clout". This is a sort of telltale heart scenario, every bit of actual evidence you dripfeed points to something directly contradicting your conspiracy theory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64707322
It's still mainly a twitch vote and it doesn't matter how tech-literate you are if the barrier of entry is higher than your willingness to give a fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>64711346
>willingness to give a fuck
Yes thank you for reiterating my point. Most people who voted likely would not give a fuck about voting in the first place if it wasn't for streamers telling them to.

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>>64711139
>EOPs learn about JP chuubas mainly by watching clips, this is indisputable, you're grasping at straws.
EOPs also just prefer watching ENtubers over JP. There's simply not enough people that only watch clips of JP vtubers that ALSO watch filian that then decide they must vote for that one vtuber from the clips. You have no explanations for why an EN vtuber wouldn't get nominated over a JP.
>It is literally irrelevant what you personally have seen
It's not. Aqua is the FPS vtuber and Botan is not. If you actually follow hololive you will have this opinion.
>The fact that searching for "hololive fps" brings up mostly Botan clips is, if not totally conclusive, strong evidence that she's the most-clipped FPS holomen.
It's just proof that when you search for "hololive fps" you get Botan clips. If you're searching that then you're not someone that's going to nominate Botan for an award, unless you're the organizer that needs a hololive member for their category.
>If you have any actual evidence that Aqua is clipped more, with English translation, feel free to post it.
Aqua's solo master challenge took her 14 streams and these streams generated 78 translated clips. Botan has only streamed FPS like 5 times in the past 6 months and got about 10 translated clips from those streams.

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>>64711624
Why doesn't that also apply to nominations?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64709775
>I nominated an actual pornstar for the lewd category
Karin was robbed.

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>>64711858
>You have no explanations for why an EN vtuber wouldn't get nominated over a JP.
But I do: Holofans voting for a Holo. The one they know for that category is Botan. And, as you mentioned, filian was asking people to nominate people from different orgs and regions, so some people picked her on filian's advice.
>It's just proof that when you search for "hololive fps" you get Botan clips.
If searching for "hololive fps" pulls up all Botan and no Aqua, that suggests that most of the popular clips of holomen playing FPS are from Botan. It's not totally conclusive, but it is not just evidence for that particular search term either.
>Aqua's solo master challenge took her 14 streams and these streams generated 78 translated clips. Botan has only streamed FPS like 5 times in the past 6 months and got about 10 translated clips from those streams.
And how many views did either of those get? Most of the Botan clips I see using your search term are years old, but they have hundreds of thousands of views. When I search for "aqua solo masters", it's mostly in the 5-25k range. It seems like nobody saw these clips so they don't know much about Aqua's FPS skills.

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>>64684033
Lmao now I regret not watching

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>>64706961
Probably because no one fucking watches them. This is a user voted awards show sorry the diversity hires didn't get enough people to give a shit about them.

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>>64712029
Nominations were not handled in the same way as the actual voting process.

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>>64711219
>"people voted for kuzuha because filian told them to" is much more believable than "filian rigged the nominations for clout"
That's still invalidating the nominations. You just spent hours arguing how niji fans totally nominated Kuzuha but now you're suddenly accepting that it might have not been true after all.
>every bit of actual evidence you dripfeed points to something directly contradicting your conspiracy theory.
Fucking ironic. With your previous concession Salome's nomination becomes completely inexplicable.

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>>64683829
Thank you. I won't even read the rest of the thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64712366
According to filian and her defenders in this thread, they were. The site simply had a box to put names in and the top 4 were picked for each category, if you believe the official explanation.

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>>64712390
>That's still invalidating the nominations.
If you say so. Personally I think a minor spelling mistake is a lot less invalidating than, uh, lying about the nominations being fan-voted and just personally picking them.
>With your previous concession Salome's nomination becomes completely inexplicable.
No, it becomes more explicable. She's deliberately asking people to nominate a diverse range of chuubas across different orgs and countries, rather than just stacking all Twitch indies + VShojo. It doesn't require a conspiracy at all, the people who voted in the nominations just had to do what filian said to do.

[Anonymous No.]

What's this Amerimutt EOP nigger trash? There aren't any popular western vtubers so they will have to give every western corpo vtuber the awards, which also means it won't even last so long.

[Anonymous No.]

Loving every holoseethe post in this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>64712212
>But I do: Holofans voting for a Holo
Those holofans would be holoEN fans and they would be voting for holoEN. If they had to nominate an FPS vtuber they would nominate Ame. hololive fans are not a monolith and there's actually not much crossover between EN and JP.
>If searching for "hololive fps" pulls up all Botan and no Aqua, that suggests that most of the popular clips of holomen playing FPS are from Botan.
If you need to search "hololive fps" to find content to watch you're not a fan that's going to vote for Botan and there's not going to be enough people like that to secure a nomination. I'm repeating myself already.
>Most of the Botan clips I see using your search term are years old, but they have hundreds of thousands of views. When I search for "aqua solo masters", it's mostly in the 5-25k range. It seems like nobody saw these clips so they don't know much about Aqua's FPS skills.
So you're suggesting that the people who voted for Botan did so based on a handful of clips they saw a long time ago and that they have not looked for more Botan content despite liking her enough to nominate her. This scenario only really makes sense if you just want to fill out the category and searched for "hololive fps". Someone that's actually watching Botan clips wouldn't nominate her because the only content they can find is a year old.

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>>64712592
Don't forget to factor in that outside vshojo it were mainly popular with phasekeks

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>>64712872
>liking her enough to nominate her
More than likely they simply don't care for FPS and just added whatever names came first to mind

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>>64712872
>Those holofans would be holoEN fans and they would be voting for holoEN.
We already went over this in the previous thread. There aren't any HoloENs who are known for their FPS, only real candidate is Ame who's a shitter.
>If you need to search "hololive fps" to find content to watch you're not a fan that's going to vote for Botan and there's not going to be enough people like that to secure a nomination. I'm repeating myself already.
Irrelevant, dodging the point, etc. Nobody's claiming they're real fans of Botan.
>So you're suggesting that the people who voted for Botan did so based on a handful of clips they saw a long time ago and that they have not looked for more Botan content despite liking her enough to nominate her.
Youtube frequently recommends old videos, I get stuff from years ago popping up in my recommended all the time. And yes, people have memories. Somebody who actually follows HoloJP is obviously going to go for Aqua as the FPS gamer, but if you don't know shit beyond big clips, it seems like Botan's a shoe-in.
>>64712899
This is true, thread went absolutely berserk when Tenma and Panko showed up they were really cute.

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>>64702831
Because it's a popularity contest.

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>>64712592
>Personally I think a minor spelling mistake is a lot less invalidating than, uh, lying about the nominations being fan-voted and just personally picking them.
What the fuck are you even saying? If she wrote in "Kazuha" and then nominated Kuzuha because her fans also wrote in "Kazuha", that's effectively her personally picking the nominee. They're not voting for Kuzuha but "Kazuha". She knows what she meant by that, but they didn't. That's not the fans nominating anything.
>She's deliberately asking people to nominate a diverse range of chuubas across different orgs and countries,
That's dishonest. She is not asking who her viewers favorite vtubers are which is what the nominees were supposed to be
>Nominations
>Nominate your favorite vtubers to be entered into the selection for each category.
This is right from the website.
>rather than just stacking all Twitch indies + VShojo
If everyone actually nominated who they actually watched that's what it would have and should have been. Again, the nominations were specifically selected to make the awards look bigger than they really were. Every JP nomination was effectively an empty slot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64713274
>What the fuck are you even saying? If she wrote in "Kazuha" and then nominated Kuzuha because her fans also wrote in "Kazuha", that's effectively her personally picking the nominee.
No it is not. It is correcting a minor spelling mistake. There is no Kazuha, a reasonable person can infer the person intended to vote for Kuzuha.
>This is right from the website.
It is. But you also pointed out she was encouraging people to nominate a diverse bunch, including one of the people who "unexpectedly" got in. This seems more likely to me than rigging.
>If everyone actually nominated who they actually watched that's what it would have and should have been. Again, the nominations were specifically selected to make the awards look bigger than they really were. Every JP nomination was effectively an empty slot.
I feel like if she wanted to do this, it would be a lot easier to simply pick the nominees herself in public rather than doing a song and dance about nominations while rigging it behind the scenes. This scenario does allow her to dodge criticism from people about the nominees, but the potential fallout from rigging the vote is orders of magnitude worse than that. I just don't think it's worth the risk, nor do I find the evidence and reasoning supporting this theory compelling. It's been a nice discussion.

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>>64713159
>There aren't any HoloENs who are known for their FPS, only real candidate is Ame who's a shitter.
Even Ame is more well known than Botan among holoEN fans. The category wasn't even about who's the best at FPS so it doesn't matter how bad she is.
>Nobody's claiming they're real fans of Botan.
filian is. The nominees were supposed to be "your favorite vtubers". You're right now admitting that Botan was there just to make the group look diverse and that she couldn't actually get nominated if people just voted for who they wanted in that category.
>if you don't know shit beyond big clips, it seems like Botan's a shoe-in.
Yeah, which is exactly what filian thought. The nomination is bullshit.

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>>64685877
>that included best event
Wait a minute, they unironically gave the award to the sleepathon?

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>>64712460
As others have pointed out that doesn't work well with Filian's demographic. It's far more likely that most picks were part of the twitch circlejerk and had nothing to do with any sort of fan democracy.

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>>64713526
>No it is not. It is correcting a minor spelling mistake. There is no Kazuha, a reasonable person can infer the person intended to vote for Kuzuha.
If someone is writing in "Kazuha" it's not because they wanted to nominate Kuzuha but because they wanted to copy what filian did. Do you still not get it?
>But you also pointed out she was encouraging people to nominate a diverse bunch
Which is her asking people to not actually nominate their favorite vtubers but someone they would never actually vote for. At that point she is just moving the task of picking "diverse nominees" from herself to her audience. It's just as illegitimate. She basically said "give me a list that has a holo, a niji, maybe a vshojo and someone else" rather than asking for their favorites.
>I feel like if she wanted to do this, it would be a lot easier to simply pick the nominees herself in public rather than doing a song and dance about nominations while rigging it behind the scenes.
Literally what are you saing? If you tell the Twitch vtuber fans to nominate their favorite vtubers you will only get Twitch vtubers nominated. Are you unironically denying that that would not be the result?

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>>64713839
>It's far more likely that most picks were part of the twitch circlejerk and had nothing to do with any sort of fan democracy.
What's the difference even? In any case there would have been zero JP nominees if you purely just polled any western audience on who their favorite vtubers are, and that's how it should have been.

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>>64713968
>In any case there would have been zero JP nominees if you purely just polled any western audience on who their favorite vtubers are, and that's how it should have been.
That's what's being said. The awards were done by voting. Nominees were mostly chosen by a small handful and any sort of fan voting in this regard was likely done for Filian to pick a fourth slot every now and then when necessary.

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>>64691858
I love her streams but honestly counting a reskin chuuba who had pretty significant following previously into the "rising star" category is a bit disingenuous

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>>64714077
That doesn't matter because she frequently collabs with Filian's circlejerk and that's mainly what this was about; promoting her friends.

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>>64683829
Fpbp

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>>64702313
Fauna deserved the ASMR award cry me a river

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>>64696619
thanks, I couldn't do that

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Its kinda like when Kiara polled KFP for answers on a contest and what do you know they ALL answered Kiara and Takamori for everything

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>>64701643
>Also everyone knows who Salome and Kuzuha are.
Lol

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>>64702221
Who is Salome?

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>>64703768
Fag

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I’m still waiting for an explanation as to how a Hololive vtuber can win an award for the most chaotic vtuber when one of the nominations for that award casually says and does things literally every single stream that would get her terminated from Hololive. It’s the only one I cannot wrap my head around

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>>64715534
That’s not chaotic, that’s just being an asshole

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>>64702457
>They didnt want to win over Marine
They did

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>>64698171
>>64708200
It's a fucking retarded shame award award, and Marine didn't even know she was nominated. Marine didn't need the award, so anyone who voted her over FWMC is just plain retarded. For some reason, Cover management cares about awards like these.

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>>64692360
>>64713838

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>>64715887
Cover management also put Omega in control of HoloEN

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>>64715887
>For some reason, Cover management cares about awards like these.
Then why did none of the Holos show up to accept their awards?

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>>64708200
>the fans of the biggest holofans in holoen are actually fake holofans
holy kek, this gotta be one of the funniest posts I've seen all day

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>>64716207
They care, but they also wanted to big dick the small corpos. A relatively new vtuber like FuwaMoco winning a popularity contest objectively makes them look good to management.
>>64716181
And they also removed him and split HoloEN and HomoEN management

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>>64684033
shit, I wish I was there

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>>64701742
Nazca conspiracy, undefeated champ 3 years running

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>>64703077
If only Aviel's check didnt bounce, they wouldve beaten Hololive...

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>>64706144
I was hungry

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>>64715489
me

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>>64719231
I'm going to dox you

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>>64683758
Iron lung won again.
Personally i cant stand her, but its a twitch show, so there was no other option.

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>>64683758
Gillian is based

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>>64702313
its just eop awards for amerimutts and some spics. japan doesnt get involved with it to begin with. i dont even know who hosts it but no matter how they act like globohomo, asia will never give a fuck about it.

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>>64707591
the character is too new, but the girl behind the avatar? 110% would deserve it.
>>64714077
>reskin chuuba
you aren't giving her enough credit. plus, she's one of the strongest on past life rules, mentioning or even insinuating her PL on stream will earn you an instant ban. after seeing her almost getting a panic attack on the vsj anniversary stream I'm not surprised.

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This is my first time browsing /vt/ and holy shit. Y'all niggas glaze hololive so much it's unreal. Ya'll fr on dick.

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>>64685056

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>>64721602
>she's one of the strongest on past life rules
Does that really matter? Everyone knows anyway. Whether she allows discussing her PL is not the issue, it's the fact that she is hardly a "raising star" if you remove the head start she got from long time fans migrating from her old persona to the new one from the equation.

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>>64725648
>Does that really matter?
objectively? dunno. subjectively? yes.
>raising star
*rising star
>the head start she got from long time fans
if you go to twitchtracker you can clearly see it's max half of her audience, and while I heard about her when the hag warts happened I only started following her as Henya.

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>>64702313
And EN vtubers are completely absent when Japan has awards
Cry about it nigga

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>>64683829
Bau bau