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/asp/ - Aspiring Vtuber and Startup Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 19:41:24 No.6466836 [Reply] [Original]

What is /asp/?
A thread where we discuss our vtuber aspirations! Whether it's agency-based or independent, let's help each other grow and make it as entertainers. Indies are welcome to join, but shill responsibly. Share what knowledge, insights, what works/doesn't work for you. Remember to do your research before providing personally identifying information to companies online!

FAQ:
Do I need an expensive, fully rigged Live2D model to be a vtuber?
No! You can always start out as a pngtuber!

Where can I learn how to Live2D rig avatars?
Check out Brian Tsui's (of Iron Vertex) YouTube channel!

Where can I find artists/riggers?
Skeb.jp, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, etc.

Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

Twitch or Youtube?
Multistream to both.

RESOURCES:
General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/2mkc8x9P

Stay grounded, stay hopeful. Don't kill yourself yet.

Previous Thread: >>6425000

Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 19:43:18 No.6466915
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1- What are your short term goals? (4-5 months out)
2- What are your long term goals? (6 months and beyond)
3- What is a specific aspect of vtubing you are working on right now?
4- What are metrics are you using to measure your progress?
5- Are those metrics useful and helping you out?
6- What are some personal milestones? (non-numbers based)
7- With what you've learned so far, what's some advice you would have told yourself?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 19:45:02 No.6466984 And if you've already answered あちゃん, what, specifically, are you doing right now to meet those goals?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 19:50:42 No.6467230 File: 172 KB, 1280x865, 97ff05dc9ad4824d9ea7714fa6f87388.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >same OP >same fp lazy. Lets cut to the whiney posts. Why are you so afraid to accept you're a man? Just make a sexy man as your avatar.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 19:53:30 No.6467343 >>6467230 what makes you thijnk im afraid to accept im a man? what makes you think i want a sexy avatar?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 19:54:36 No.6467396 >>6467230 I am though

Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 19:56:43 No.6467536
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Hey guys, I'm gonna just stream me hanging out with chat. Come by and say hello! I'd love to meet you!~~~ <3

https://www.youtube.com/illreviewanything
https://www.twitch.tv/illreviewanything

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 19:59:03 No.6467647 >>6466984 I'll worry about all that if I don't make it past the Nijisanji auditions. Didn't really care about becoming a vtuber until the auditions piqued my interest.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:09:08 No.6468163 >>6467647 I dunno Anon, why would they accept you with no prior experience? You should work now so that you don't regret not having the credentials next time auditions roll around.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:14:14 No.6468439 >>6467230 But I want to look like an average mid-30s professional, not a hot anime daddy.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:15:28 No.6468512 >>6468439 >average mid-30s professional ....so anime guy in suit no.23?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:15:52 No.6468536 >>6468439 You'll be both and you'll like it.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:17:59 No.6468656 >>6468439 >i want to be average you want to be a failure.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:20:20 No.6468783 >>6468512 >>6468536 Fair enough. I'm just not looking for a flamboyant design. I'm a sweater over a button up with gray slacks kind of guy.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:20:51 No.6468815 >>6468439 consult the post of wisdom >>6430560

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:21:13 No.6468834 >>6467230 sorry anon i was working on another thing in photoshop and didn't feel like stopping to make a new one anyway i have no idea what you're talking about my avatar is a man and also not in a hoodie

Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:21:49 No.6468866

>>6466915
>1- What are your short term goals? (4-5 months out)
Going to debut and then start the content grind.
>2- What are your long term goals? (6 months and beyond)
Get good enough at art to maybe start doing commissions of my own? Beyond that, just have fun. Maybe try for a world record speedrun?
>3- What is a specific aspect of vtubing you are working on right now?
Video editing and asset creation. I'm making everything but my model and rig, myself and I have basically no experience with Photoshop and After Effects. All things considered tho, I think I'm doing really well.
>4- What are metrics are you using to measure your progress?
Average viewers.
>5- Are those metrics useful and helping you out?
I honestly don't care either way. I doubt I'll 'track' them beyond posting here for comparison with other /asp/s.
>6- What are some personal milestones? (non-numbers based)
I care less about 'making it' and more about making -- if not interesting than fun -- content. I think learning a speedrun and going for record could be a fun idea. Maybe have my chat choose the game? Secondly, I want to sculpt something in zBrush worthy of 3D printing.
>7- With what you've learned so far, what's some advice you would have told yourself?
Don't get Scarlet Solo. I followed a 'guide' I found on youtube for a 'basic streaming audio setup'. I still fight with my mic and Scarlet to get anything decent. I'm pretty sure my 5 year old gamer headset gave better/more consistent audio. Maybe if I knew more about audio tech I could make it better, but as it stands I have it 'just good enough' and it's likely to stay that way forever.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:22:31 No.6468899 https://files.catbox.moe/64n3at.mp3

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:23:23 No.6468944 >>6468815 Guess I'm #2, then. I've started streaming while waiting for a better design anyways, using free clip art as a standin.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:25:10 No.6469065 >>6430560 What about babi's senpai? Don't they count?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:25:42 No.6469088 >>6469065 do not babi

Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:28:51 No.6469267
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don't be afraid to put together a rough sketch, no matter how crude, when you are looking to commission an artist! include many details to help them out and they'll take care of the rest!

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:30:09 No.6469337 >>6469267 As someone that draws decently well, this this this this this this this

Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:31:37 No.6469416

>>6469267
to an extent, but this means you already know what you want.
The image on the left already has the composition and framing already in his head, which is helpful sure, but it implies the customer has a decent idea how to design an image. While its a stick figure, I highly doubt that was the extent of the customer's knowledge of art and he just downgraded it to be ironic.

Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:33:06 No.6469479

>>6469416
>but this means you already know what you want.
why would you commission an artist if you don't know what you want? sounds like pulling an expensive gacha roll and waiting 2+ weeks to get a character design that you may or may not like depending on the result.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:33:36 No.6469503 >>6469088 What if I want to be 'the first successful babi'? Or is that impossible? >>6469416 If you don't know the basic pose of what you want, you should probably collect more reference and get a solid idea.

Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:34:55 No.6469586

>>6469479
You have a general idea what you want, but you're relying on the artist's skill to help out.
I might have a general idea how I want something, but there's not a specific image I want, I want the concept done not the image. Thus I rely on the better artist for the composition and framing, and more important for clothing design because I suck at that part.

Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:36:47 No.6469680

>>6469503
>What if I want to be 'the first successful babi'? Or is that impossible?
the two closest examples you'll get are Admiral Bahroo whose vtuber model is a panda that's held by an anime girl as visual eye candy that's been streaming for 8+ years who has a following of over 100,000 fans. or BungoTaiga, who expressly appeals to coomerbrains with the femboy angle.

babis don't do well in the west.

>>6469586
honestly this just sounds like you need to do some more research and figure out what you want before you commit to it.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:37:51 No.6469740 >>6469680 sounds like you're a shit artist who needs the commissioner to do half the work for you.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:38:22 No.6469771 >>6469586 no artist is going to take a commission even on a character design unless you have a shitload of reference pics on what you want or can sketch it out

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>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:40:45 No.6469936 >>6469680 Well fuck. I'm already too far to turn back. Pray for my babi soul as I try to become even mildly known.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:44:33 No.6470173 >>6469936 if it's that far along, better be prepared to lean into it and own it

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:46:33 No.6470297 >>6470173 That was my plan from the start. I'm not a tranny, I'm not going to pretend to be a girl or alter my voice, just a dude with a female avatar. Maybe I'll make it, maybe I'll end up in the trash. Only time will tell.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:46:59 No.6470329 Finished my first art stream, but kind of panicked and just drew with crayons the whole time.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:48:59 No.6470449 File: 204 KB, 900x900, 1618891914075.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6470329 Grats anon! Keep it up!

Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:49:40 No.6470496

>>6469816
Yes.
Thumbnails and deciding composition is one of the most important parts of drawing. If you fuck it up you'll have to throw away hours of work. If you can just point a finger and blame someone else for deciding it it means you can skip any worry and just regurgitate the same boring figure you've drawn 1000 times.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:52:32 No.6470634 >>6470496 delusional

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:54:32 No.6470751 >>6470634 Post you're art.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 20:56:51 No.6470876 >see @vtuberoftheday account retweeting so many dog themed vtubers >wonder if i made the mistake of just being a human with no animal features >conflicted because at least i don't blend in with the 30+ dog vtubers already out there

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:03:48 No.6471278 Is pngtubing vtubing? And why does everyone use pngs instead of superior economic jpgtubing to save on bandwidth?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:04:28 No.6471323 >>6471278 no it's called vtuber and not ituber for a reason

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:05:19 No.6471381 >>6471323 V doesn't stand for facerig bro.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:05:54 No.6471420 >>6471278 kek. bring back .bmptubing or enter the future with animated .giftubing

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:06:01 No.6471425 >>6471278 I just made a terrible mistake of jumping the gun if it isn't.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:07:19 No.6471495 >>6471425 It is, you're still being a virtual YouTuber. Don't stress about it, just get those streaming reps in, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:08:51 No.6471589 >vtuber >streams on twitch ???

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:11:49 No.6471761 would it be weird if I "greeted" viewers at the start of the stream even if they are lurking? but I check who's there with the user list?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:12:27 No.6471801 >>6471761 Yes. Don't do that.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:13:04 No.6471833 >>6471761 i will leave if you call me out or address my existence in anyway t. lurker

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:13:17 No.6471847 >>6471761 Don't creep on people faggot. Just say hi generally to the chat. If they don't respond don't force them to type, it's just awkward for everyone. Give them opportunity but don't force it.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:21:18 No.6472339 >>6471761 Yeah, huge general rule is not to call out lurkers. If someone speaks in chat or says hi, definitely greet them, but if they're just lurking let them.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:21:43 No.6472370 >>6468783 The most subbed to male chuuba is just a dude in a tracksuit with pointy teeth, are you implying all males have to be super flashy?

Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:25:02 No.6472518

>>6471761
you can thank the lurkers as a general group by saying "hey, thanks for tuning in, those in chat and all the lurkers out there too, i appreciate you spending time with me today" but do not call out individual lurkers by name.

>6472370
this is bait and jp male timeloop

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:26:29 No.6472593 >>6470751 We're all works of art here, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:27:33 No.6472647 >>6467230 I'm not sexy.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:28:04 No.6472673 >>6472370 Specifically in reference to >>6467230 I don't want a very flashy look. I would rather just look like a college professor.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:31:16 No.6472866 >>6471420 >or enter the future with animated .giftubing Ulner used to do that.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:31:22 No.6472868 >>6472673 You don't need to look flashy, but you need some kind of visual interest that will draw attention.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:34:00 No.6473008 Just saw this video and now my head is racing with ideas of a celestial star girl vtuber https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r-rAW0gm0s

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:43:57 No.6473451 File: 143 KB, 904x1205, 20210712_203754.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6470449 I ended up turning it into a "clothing design brainstorming stream."

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:46:10 No.6473589 Any advice on how to come up with a good name? I'm too used to being anonymized and have no idea what to call myself lol. I think I'd like a Firstname + Surname type deal.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:47:41 No.6473659 >>6473589 I'm also terrible at this, it's generally the last thing I come up with. I would suggest something the evokes your style, theme, and story.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:52:35 No.6473863 File: 321 KB, 2560x1440, ArtHoe_004_0036.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >don't mind me >just shilling my channel Spent extra time working on the waifu model. https://youtu.be/DIP8vtIFhr4

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:53:03 No.6473883 >>6473863 shill in /wvt/ this is for advice and hopefuls

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 21:56:27 No.6474033 >>6469267 Did something like this for a friend the other day. I got them to cut pictures out from their inspiration and stick them on a figure. Gave them a good idea of what worked or didn't.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 22:05:14 No.6474401 I just want to be a skeleton man and get drunk and play shitty games man. I already do everything but the being a skeleton bit but I feel like not being a skeleton is holding me back.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 22:05:36 No.6474422 >>6474401 .....then be skeleton?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 22:08:24 No.6474530 >>6473589 Invoke all of your autism

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 22:13:40 No.6474758 >>6474401 Be the skellyman, anon

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 22:21:05 No.6475092 >>6473589 >>6473659 Same. I came up for a really lame name for my Niji audition but could be worse.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 22:26:03 No.6475305 >>6475092 Same Mona Pan Tsu

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 22:31:52 No.6475563 >>6473589 Find the root name of your concept. Go Latin. If that doesn't work, try seeing what the keywords are in Icelandic or Russian. Maybe if you're based on an animal find a scientific genus or phylum.

Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 22:33:05 No.6475617

>>6475563
Considering we're all weebs you might as well look into Japanese and kanji as well. If you can use a kanji with an alternate reading that you can make some sort of joke out of then you'll probably have easy good graces from the nip overlords.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 22:38:09 No.6475841 >>6475617 I went with this route and the name I came up with is so lame but still works somehow that I want to keep it.

Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 22:41:58 No.6476041

I really want to believe that anon that said what sold Finana to Niji was her written application since she was kind of a nobody compared to Pomu and Elira. I botched my audition audio and it just keeps eating me. I introduced myself instead of making my character introduction and then LARPed as the character.

Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 22:46:02 No.6476245
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>>6473589
For names, you're best picking your theme first and then finding names that suit. For example, Moth Mom/Juniper is pretty clever since Thera Juniperata is a type of moth.

If I were naming some of the Niji girls we were auditioning for though...

Ghost - Viole Ghossamer (sheer fabric theme)
Cat Witch - Umbra Mesmer (sounds mysterious and mesmer for mesmerism)
Bird - Gallie Remiges (from Galon and feather term)

Just make sure it sounds cute if it's a girl.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 22:52:03 No.6476533 >>6476245 I'd say you can be a weeb and still pick a Japanese name, just look at Finana Ryugu.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 22:55:59 No.6476717 >>6476533 Yeah, you can always go a weeb name but just make sure it doesn't have some accidental double meaning.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 22:57:09 No.6476760 >>6476717 Intentional double meanings though, those are kino.

Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:02:13 No.6476997

>>6476717
>>6476760
I went with this, it's so dumb but I'm weirdly proud of it. Phonetic reading is just a lame pun, and in writing I choose to leave it in hiragana because with the kanji options it could be written in it still makes a reference to the theme of the character.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:06:14 No.6477219 >>6476245 Does anyone have the edited version of this where it revealed their faces? Someone said there was one going around in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:07:47 No.6477309 >>6477219 Only cat can have her face lightened because the shadow was mostly on her hat. Others are impossible I think

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:11:42 No.6477549 >>6476245 I just mashed together an author name and a character name from my favorite book. Not very creative, but fits a professor, I hope.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:13:40 No.6477667 >>6477549 Henry Stevenson

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:35:05 No.6478924 File: 9 KB, 534x723, 1626147305888.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6473589 idk, the name I'm using is andy

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:39:34 No.6479206 >art mama showcased 2 other vtubers on their instagram and twitter timelines >hasn't showcased me why don't you love me mama?...

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:40:19 No.6479253 None of you will every be successful vtubers and need to kill yourselves before you infect the indie community with your homofag bullshit. Male Vtubers are a cancer that needs to be purged.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:41:13 No.6479306 Going live with some quick barbershop building! Hang out and have fun! https://youtu.be/a1uQaUlU_cQ

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:43:40 No.6479449 File: 5 KB, 216x233, 1598299290281.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] /asp/ies are you ready to feed the chickens today?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:43:57 No.6479458 >>6479306 Couldn't handle more than 1 second of your voice, fucking disgusting. Also you're not a Vtuber, stock clipart doesn't count faggot.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:44:38 No.6479499 >>6479253 >>6479458 kek, welcome to the thread, schizo

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:45:12 No.6479533 >>6479499 Kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:46:13 No.6479593 Kill yourselves.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:46:29 No.6479604 >>6479449 I'm scared. There's schizos here today.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:47:30 No.6479647 File: 52 KB, 638x621, 1625359874952.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How accurate? >>6479449 Heck I almost forgot

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:48:08 No.6479688 You all deserve to die. You all deserve to die. You all deserve to die.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:49:09 No.6479737 NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:50:11 No.6479788 lmao how am i not banned yet NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER jannies btfo

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:51:50 No.6479884 >>6479449 Shimada you'll scare the younglings. >>6479737 >>6479788 This is not Reddit, that's why.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:51:57 No.6479895 >>6479647 sometimes accurate, but always say thanks for watching for when twitch numbers dont update in time

Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:52:02 No.6479902
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>>6470876
There's some pretty big variation in the doggos as is. Really goes to show how oversaturated the market is. Mostly Korone rip-offs and femboys and then you have this guy who doesn't even look like a dog.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:53:31 No.6479979 >>6479902 >buff dude >add korone ears DOOG >45 likes seems like it's working for just a sketch

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:53:45 No.6479999 >>6479449 Does this stream run for 24 hours? I might go to sleep to this with some rain background noise.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:54:04 No.6480014 File: 90 KB, 600x800, 1612864681271.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6479788 >>6479737

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:56:34 No.6480153 love how the trolls only have 2 lines they've been using since 2012 because they can't come up with any new material. makes it very easy to filter them too.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:56:52 No.6480173 File: 193 KB, 1000x1200, 36cdb6a271a36d8cace47d917c5859aa.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what does it take to get banned already i hate this place i want out already

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:57:12 No.6480193 >>6479979 Perhaps the guy who said there's an opening for buff male chuba is right. There's a lot on the Japanese side but I only know Aki and Mcpancakes in the west.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:57:26 No.6480203 >>6479449 I was watching them they're cute

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:57:53 No.6480233 What is the chicken stream?

Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:57:59 No.6480241 [DELETED]

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ban me niggers

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:58:22 No.6480255 >>6480193 >Perhaps the guy who said there's an opening for buff male chuba is right. i hope so, my model is along the lines of buff male chuuba

Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:58:36 No.6480267

>>6480193
The problem is a lot of these guys are torn between trying to chase that bishie crowd and the buff guy crowd, I feel like the west has more appeal with dilf/buff guys but then that begs the question of whether or not you have the voice and charisma.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:58:42 No.6480275 >>6480173 >>6480241 yep, that'll do it

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:59:01 No.6480292 File: 387 KB, 2000x2000, 1oHAucN.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] can't fucking ban me pathetic

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 12, 2021 23:59:53 No.6480335 >>6480233 OurChickenLife

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:00:03 No.6480347 File: 642 KB, 707x1000, 1_34.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] failures, you're all failures.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:00:15 No.6480354 >>6480267 >whether or not you have the voice and charisma. this really. even if you want to go buff male, if you don't have the voice, it's not gonna work in your favor. gap moe doesn't work in reverse for men.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:00:38 No.6480379 >>6480335 What does feeding these chickens do?

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>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:01:31 No.6480416 >>6479449 Yessir. Did a quick stream tonight since I wanted to sleep/wake up early but also had to put in my reps https://youtu.be/nZigO7doc98

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:01:36 No.6480422 >>6480292 >>6480241 >>6480173 Rin it's time to let go Lapin doesn't love you /wvt/ doesn't love you literally nobody is defending you don't get banned, just leave and don't come back

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:01:45 No.6480431 >>6480379 it makes sure they don't go hungry, anon. you don't want the chickens to go hungry, do you?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:02:06 No.6480451 File: 298 KB, 1000x1390, 00381_pid_39782012.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] still here cucks

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:02:49 No.6480488 >>6480451 try making the most obvious joke about artemis of the blue

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:02:50 No.6480491 >>6480399 pretty got desu

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:02:55 No.6480494 >>6480422 too late, this thread doesn't have the speed to die before mods see his shit Rin needs medication, really

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:03:15 No.6480513 >>6480379 Makes the chickens happy. Thus granting you happiness. A full chicken is a happy chicken. A happy chicken is a happy you. This is the zen of chicken.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:03:27 No.6480525 >>6480488 kek

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:03:44 No.6480542 File: 92 KB, 1200x807, DJJxmmPXgAEo9ze.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6480422 you will never know me so fuck off and die

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>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:04:55 No.6480603 >>6480542 yeah yeah Rin seek help

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:05:18 No.6480622 >>6479458 Thanks anon! Working with an artist to get an actual decent PNG (and eventually L2D) but didn't want to wait to start streaming to get my feet under me. I'll take provoking a reaction as a positive.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:05:55 No.6480654 File: 130 KB, 828x1280, 6ba089f7-002d-4d51-89b5-342d87c28d0d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6480603

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:05:59 No.6480657 The fuck is going on here?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:06:35 No.6480683 The "bro" crowd is the strongest one, bishie and buff are nothing in comparison unless you're actually charismatic and charming, not just RPing it. It just comes off a "Kitten, don't make me angry~" shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:06:53 No.6480701 >>6480657 Real schizo hours

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:06:57 No.6480705 File: 342 KB, 540x675, tumblr_oqavyup5y51txg9l6o3_540.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6480657 niggers

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:07:02 No.6480714 >>6480599 >>6480542 >>6480451 >>6480399 Nobody is shocked, Rin It's sad I bet you did send Lapin that gore You love posting "shock" material after all

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:07:52 No.6480747 >>6480683 That's what I would think but kittymcpancakes is very clearly RPing it yet it's working for him so who knows.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:08:04 No.6480759 >>6480657 A schizo from /wvt/ finally got banished by his oshi and now he's having a breakdown

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:08:33 No.6480785 File: 305 KB, 1578x1080, IMG_4129 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i'm still not Rin. by the way. who the fuck is that, weeb shit fuck off

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:08:48 No.6480802 >>6480683 if a male vtuber could pull off what Hiiragi Yuu does, bet they'd nail the fujo audience. it's not even that much kayfabe, it's just voice acting at that point.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:09:07 No.6480816 >>6480714 Reminder that it was animal gore and not just regular gore

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:09:29 No.6480837 >>6480785 coping this hard, Rin? Lapin would be sad

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:09:34 No.6480844 File: 724 KB, 841x1080, DU_JXgKVQAAQJoZ.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6480759 Oh, so that's his story. Still not me. Still not banned. I never go to wvt either.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:10:06 No.6480872 >>6480844 >>6480785 >Not Rin You do this every time, Rin

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:10:18 No.6480883 >>6480622 pretty sure that's a schizo from /wvt/ that got bored and decided to shitpost here, don't mind him it's very impressive how quick your recording streams are though! a one take wonder...

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:11:01 No.6480918 >>6479449 The feeder is empty….

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:11:02 No.6480921 File: 146 KB, 952x952, 06dd3ebc-38f7-42df-b702-ed658a63536d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm going to keep posting until i'm banned. Still not Rin. You fucks are delusional.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:12:12 No.6480959 >>6480921 Only delusional one is you. With time you will realize how meaningless this was. Becoming a chuuba for nothing.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:12:46 No.6480985 File: 70 KB, 922x1078, 146.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] and here I thought you niggers believe anything you read on here, rrat-poisoned schizos that you are.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:13:50 No.6481038 File: 2.49 MB, 3508x4960, xSKLfhX.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] But none of you believe i'm not Rin. I'm just some nobody who wants to be banned so I stop punishing myself by coming here.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:15:00 No.6481101 ogey

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:15:29 No.6481117 File: 101 KB, 1200x855, EQl_sRSWAAAlxUj.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] And so the shock value keeps flowing. I hope one of you pukes.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:16:02 No.6481140 This is nothing, Rin. Send us the good shit you sent Lapin.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:16:03 No.6481142

>>6480883
Yeah, seems like he's having a rough night.

And thanks, in the future, I'll do some longer pieces, which will take longer, so I can do an hour or two. Or just do multiple short pieces in one night. It's kinda fun showing the learning process on stream, and then I can clip out the finished product and add it to a playlist.

Before long I'll have a proper custom PNG, but I didn't want to wait for that commission to come through to start streaming. Gotta build up a bit of content and experience for the NijiEN audition, after all. Plus it's just fun.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:16:08 No.6481144 rin...

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:16:46 No.6481168 you're gonna need to upload cartel beheadings to get me to flinch, not your personal furry porn collection

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:16:52 No.6481172 >>6481140 This, might as well go all the way and shock us like you want to

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:17:01 No.6481180 >>6481117 Do you really think any of this has any shock value here? For us? And at this point of the thread?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:17:06 No.6481191 >>6481117 >he actually thinks this is shocking Sad

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:17:52 No.6481227 >>6480255 Aruran and Boni have their fans for a reason. >>6480422 >>6480494 >>6480883 Elaborate, I want a good laugh.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:18:53 No.6481267 File: 128 KB, 900x1130, 00347_pid_42714957.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I can't believe y'all. I'm not Rin. I don't know who the fuck this Lapin is. The fact my shit ain't "the good shit" should be all the proof you need.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:20:08 No.6481329 >wants to get banned but is holding back on "the good stuff" yawn what other excuses are you gonna come up with, Rin?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:20:37 No.6481360 >>6481267 Plausible deniability isn't your strong suit. Is this why you tell Lapin that you aren't acting schizo in the back office thread anymore? To create an alibi?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:20:58 No.6481378 >>6481168 Not even that for me, I'm used to cartel stuff.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:23:16 No.6481492 Rin got what he wanted. Though I predict he'll be back before long.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:24:34 No.6481548

>>6481227
Go do some archive reps in the back office with you want to know the details but
Here's a tldr

>Schizo finds 4chan vtuber who is menhera and insecure
>Latches onto her
>Manipulates her and ruins her fanbase
>Convinces her not to befriend anyone but him
>He continuously abuses her and pretend to be her anti to keep her dependent
>She makes friends
>She eventually comes to her sense, most likely at the aid of her friends
>Cuts him off
>He tries to make drama about it in the back office
>Nobody buys it
>He has a meltdown
>He's here

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:27:26 No.6481691 >>6481548 I'll take the tldr. Thanks, anon. Is he looking for his next Lapin?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:28:04 No.6481733 >>6481492 What a sad, strange little man.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:28:53 No.6481766 >>6481691 There won't be a next for him I imagine.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:29:26 No.6481784 >>6481691 Who knows I don't think anyone will every replace Lapin for him He'll probably find new ways to harass her

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:29:51 No.6481799 >>6481548 What does "back office" mean? Sorry, I'm new here.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:30:10 No.6481813 >>6481766 I can see it happen, he used a voice changer for all of his streams except for the rare occasion. Just adjust it a tiny bit and it's a new person

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:30:31 No.6481831 >>6481799 Lurk more

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:32:06 No.6481889 >>6481799 The back office has more to do with /wvt/, the indie western vtuber thread. I'd recommend lurking there for a bit if you plan to become an indie chuuba

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:35:58 No.6482040 >>6481889 On the contrary, /wvt/ is a circlejerk which may as well be named /here/, so I wouldn't give too much thought to it.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:37:05 No.6482087
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>>6479604
You're safe now child
>>6479647
Usually at this hour they're asleep so it's best to do it afternoon burger time. Also you will rarely deal with that if you tell one or two friends you can trust about being a chuuba and have them watch you
>>6479884
They'll learn that I'm only here for good
>>6479999
The stream never ends except for maybe a second every once in a while, I sleep to the chickens a lot but you might get woken up by the feeding machine at some point
>>6480203
Incredibly based thank you, if you don't have a sub drop your link and I will give you one
>>6480416
Skimmed your vod, good voice and design and you made me smile a few times, great work! You remind me of Lio Fotia which is something I like
>>6480918
You have to feed them earlier in the day, it feels bad when the feeder is already empty but you also get to know they are being fed

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:39:35 No.6482176

>>6481548
You are missing some details like his schizo behaivor pre-finding said menhera.
>Somehow finds the threads, no one knows what he did before or where he came from
>Starts spamming Artemis to hell and back to annoy people
>Makes troll threads with Artemis
>He was active for 20 HOURS per day, no one knew how he managed to stay awake for such extended periods of time and the only thing that kept him from turning the threads into Boretemis spam was his job
>Also spammed wojacks and loli at one point which got him banned a couple of times
>He mocks someone who was trying to become a vtuber (this was before /vt/ existed so there was no /asp/ or anything like that).
>He becomes a vtuber himself to mock said person
>Then latches onto said menhera
There is a story bigger than this but the lessons here is:
DO NOT TRUST ANY "IRONIC" VTUBERS
THEY ARE THE MOST MENTALLY UNSTABLE PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET AND WILL EXPLODE AT YOU WHEN GIVEN THE CHANCE
Thank you for listening to my mini-PSA

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:41:54 No.6482253 >>6482176 This is why I'm so scared to network. I don't want these people to find me. How do I put barriers up properly besides preemptively blocking and banning them from my chat?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:42:05 No.6482261 >>6482087 Thank you tiger sensei, I will feed them at the proper times.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:42:39 No.6482279

Whoever it was that gave me the idea to clip out the end product of my barbershop learning and recording streams, thank you. It's a great idea and good way to start getting more content out. Thanks to whichever anon said that sometime last week.

The end product of tonight's stream is below. Thanks to all who dropped by, even that one aggressively unhinged guy. I'll have a personalized design up and running soon, and will be setting up a proper schedule soon. Thanks for all the help and support so far, /asp/.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngVfZswTW2M

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:44:23 No.6482333 >>6482087 Thank you for the kind words shishou. Good luck on your run! >>6482279 >Actually creating content You are definitely going to make it.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:44:45 No.6482348 >>6482087 Oh lord, noticed by senpai. I could only watch a bit of your stream earlier but it was fun. Hope I can stay longer next time.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:45:01 No.6482359 >>6482253 Ban any shitters Don't interact with vtubers who only interact with over 4chan vtubers Network with everyone

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:48:40 No.6482474

>>6482253
You need to get good at reading into what people say. Most people like this can't hold their spaghetti well so they will trip up and say something suspicious at some point.

If they demand attention when you give it to others, discourage you from doing stuff that's outside their control, trash talk people that have otherwise glowing reputations, say they're your only true friend you can come to for emotional support, then they're fucked in the head and not interested in your wellbeing.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:48:42 No.6482476

>>6482359
Yeahhhh, this place was my safe zone since it seemed to have only adults on it, but it's definitely going to be better to branch out to everywhere. My next thing I'll promote all over the place and try to make at least one new connection at the bare minimum!

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:50:38 No.6482552 >>6482476 Doing your networking reps outside of here is important! There's a lot of cool people you can meet through /wvt/, but its also important to branch out beyond that because otherwise you'll be mostly sharing the same pool of viewers

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:50:45 No.6482556 >>6482359 I can't even tell which Vtubers are just 4chan Vtubers.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:50:54 No.6482561 >>6482087 I'm new I don't know who chicken-chan is but I heard I should post my twitch when chicken-chan is here. Should I do so when it's prime schizo hours?

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:51:20 No.6482572
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>>6482253
Well it's hard to network but the only thing my post said was to avoid any "ironic" vtubers. If you have been at THOSE parts of tumblr you will know what ironic people are like, all I can give you so far is:
>They will complain about mental illness with a "hahaha guise i'm about to break :)" tone
>Makes or RTs memes that look like pic-related
>Their models are usually really low effort for the sake of "i'm not a serious vtuber guys i'm doing this to mock the current state of vtubing"
These are what I have found so far so if you find vtubers or hell, even ANYONE like this you should stay the fuck away from them.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:51:44 No.6482584 >>6482087 I want to link you my streams senpai, but they are raw and scuffed. I’ll just feed the chickens instead

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:52:53 No.6482618 >>6482572 Oh okay, that makes a lot more sense. Thank you!

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:54:09 No.6482663 >>6482584 I feel you anon. I want to feel proud of my streams but I'm still too shy to post here, even for senpai...

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 00:55:24 No.6482698

>>6482556
If you look at /wvt/ it's pretty easy to figure out when you notice who is selfposting or what streamers get posted repeatedly, though in the latter case some of those streamers don't actually go here but interact with a good amount of people from here

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 01:00:11 No.6482834 >>6482087 hopefully next time you come back I will have something to link beyond and empty account and only test streams

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 01:00:26 No.6482840 >>6482663 oh, not shy at all: https://www.twitch.tv/iberocorporis The head office is however aware that the presentation is so far lacking

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 01:10:14 No.6483104 >>6482556 /asp/ies are fairly well connected, if you follow a couple of the more well known ones, you'll see the others pop up pretty quickly

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 01:35:43 No.6483824 >>6482333 Thanks! I figured content creation comes first, and I'll figure the rest out as I go.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 01:51:58 No.6484326 >>6482087 >You have to feed them earlier in the day About what time/zone does it get refilled? I chilled there yesterday for a bit, but it was empty the whole time

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 01:52:43 No.6484344 is everyone using https://kara.moe/ for their karaoke or just youtube videos? i want to avoid DMCA strikes but that should be easy enough as long as i delete my VODs on twitch, right?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 01:52:58 No.6484352 Does anyone here have any real (successful) content creation experience? Just a tourist but I'm curious if there's anyone here who actually has a chance to get into an org even if it's a smaller one like Phase

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 02:03:00 No.6484631

>>6484344
I use karaoke tracks off youtube since I prefer to not have vocals on my karaoke
I've done four singing streams and I've only had two songs muted on my twitch vod in total and no dmca strikes
>>6484352
We've had a couple of Partner tier chuubas pop into the threads like yozo and tiger who could probably get into a all org if they wanted but I'd imagine they're probably sticking to being indie for now

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 02:04:21 No.6484671

>>6484631
>I've only had two songs muted on my twitch vod in total and no dmca strikes
you're talking about when twitch just mutes the portion of the VOD with the copyrighted song, but doesn't nuke the entire VOD, right? i thought they were super serious about that and banning people because of it

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 02:07:03 No.6484742 >>6484671 Yeah, I sang "The Exit" by Forgive Durden and "Lost my Music" by Aya Hirano and they just got muted and the vod wasn't nuked I always make sure to hit record locally on OBS when I do a karaoke as well just in case

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 02:07:05 No.6484744 File: 204 KB, 395x561, 1601136403414.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6484352 chicken anon

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 02:08:07 No.6484775 >>6484352 Most people here are more interested in going the indie route and almost all of the vtubers who post on this site are indies. There's too much drama and shitty management with these small agencies.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 02:08:18 No.6484778 If I want to use my phone for avatar movement, where do I put it? What do people usually do? I can't just have my phone right in front of my screen, right?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 02:09:42 No.6484821 >>6484775 Do you recommend only trying out for agencies like Niji/Holo then? If aspiring to join an agency at all?

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 02:09:59 No.6484826

>>6484742
thanks for the info, anon. and same, i always make a local recording (though it's because my upload is shit, so i stream in 720p but locally record in 1080p). good to know about the song though, makes it a lot easier to find songs to karaoke on youtube.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 02:12:30 No.6484906

>>6484821
You won't make it into Hololive or Niji without prior content creation, whether that's streaming, art, music, etc. You should look at why you want to stream in the first place. Being hired by an agency won't magically grant you success and happiness.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 02:13:36 No.6484944 >>6484906 Yeah, I've already been at it for a little bit. I was looking at a few of the smaller agencies, but after the weird drama with Tsunderia I'm not sure it's worth trying for any small agency at all.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 02:15:55 No.6485010

>>6484944
Aside from one person who was just good enough to make it into final rounds of HoloEN (Finana), everyone else has in the big orgs were pulling great numbers in their fields. Your only real option, unless you're absolutely stand out amazing and skilled (which probably implied you have content creation experience even if it isn't a vtuber), then your only real option is at least becoming a medium-sized vtuber and joining a small org.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 02:18:24 No.6485088 >>6485010 Finana made it to the final round of HoloEN, too? With no experience? What makes her stand out?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 02:19:02 No.6485107 >>6485088 nta, but social media growth and cute voice

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 02:21:06 No.6485168

>>6484821
I follow a lot of the agencies and some are definitely legit and do a lot to support talents. Just do your research for the existing ones, and for new ones it's hard to tell obviously but if you do go for it, make sure you're asking the right questions when interviewing and don't sign anything without a serious read.
It's not for everyone but agencies seen to do some people a lot of good and even the smaller ones come with their own clout. A standout example is Shiki who's almost at 30k after a couple weeks, after having 2k subs as an indie.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 02:21:10 No.6485170 >>6484944 So you want to join an agency for more exposure and numbers, leading to a better possible career?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 02:23:05 No.6485228 >>6485170 I'm just curious, mostly. I'm still new to this entire scene and I was wondering if most smaller agencies are actually "worth" it or if they're basically mlm scams or something.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 02:23:17 No.6485236 >>6484352 I got a channel with 30k subs and a decent viewership (even though I haven't posted in a while...)

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 02:24:45 No.6485265 >>6485236 What kind of content do you make?

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 02:25:17 No.6485280

>>6485088
I'm assuming she had some prior experience because "Girl with cute voice" are a dime a dozen. Her social media reps were pretty strong though, and she seems pretty knowledgeable about a lot of weeb topics and streaming as a whole, so I just assumed she streamed under another identity, maybe webcam or something.

Being realistic, no one makes it into groups like this without some prior form of experience. Ame was the smallest of the Holos prior to joining, but she also streamed for years both with and without webcam prior.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 02:26:49 No.6485318 >>6485265 Long form video game retrospectives. Not really a reviewer though, because I cover all kinds of games, especially old and obscure ones. Basically ross scott and mandaloregaming style vids

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 02:27:30 No.6485333 >>6485228 The only real negative to joining an org and failing is that you wasted some time.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 02:36:12 No.6485545 I just have to remind myself that 90% of everything is shit, so it's not a big deal if I try and wind up in the 90%, but it's a reason to celebrate if I wind up in the 10%.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 02:44:51 No.6485743

gonna ignore all this autism but

>>6475092
>>6476245
>didn't even come up with a last name during my audition
bros.......
>>6479902
his older designs did have the dog ears on it, but due to the antis that were after him, they made him get rid of it. a pity.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 03:11:25 No.6486315 >>6485743 why would antis want him to not have dog ears

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 03:24:20 No.6486603 >>6480747 Not gonna doxx myself but he's like that on and off stream for the most part, and I'm not female so he wasn't just hitting on me. He's as nice on stream as he is off.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 03:25:15 No.6486628 >>6485743 That's okay, anon. I was retarded and intro'd myself as a person and not as the character I was auditioning for because I couldn't read two sentences together.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 03:42:18 No.6486938 >>6486315 this is a tl;dr version of it, but you know what they say about chinese and dogs, don't you? >>6486628 welp, that's makes me a tiny bit glad over my stupid mistake. still, hopefully they give you a chance even despite that, anon!

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 04:01:12 No.6487273 >>6486938 Oh I didn't realize they were chinese, the Irish folklore threw me off. by the looks of it though the ears are stil lthere, just more...hair-ears

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 04:09:06 No.6487425

>>6466915
>1- What are your short term goals? (4-5 months out)
Average 30+ viewers
>2- What are your long term goals? (6 months and beyond)
Earn enough through streaming to go part time or per diem at my day job
>3- What is a specific aspect of vtubing you are working on right now?
Trying to not be lazy and actually edit VODs to post on YT. Trying to interact more on Twitter.
>4- What are metrics are you using to measure your progress?
Twitch follower count and average views
>5- Are those metrics useful and helping you out?
Sure? My follower count is going up but my average views are about the same or less. I feel like I need more variety in what I stream/need to do more solo streams
>6- What are some personal milestones? (non-numbers based)
They're all numbers based at their core...
>7- With what you've learned so far, what's some advice you would have told yourself?
Vtubing won't end up as a "funny hobby haha" that only lasts for a month or two. You will actually enjoy it and wish you could earn some money from it. However, stop comparing yourself to other VTubers that are more successful than you right off the bat. They networked their butt off. You didn't. You still aren't. Why??

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 04:20:45 No.6487635

>>6487273
he's not chinese actually, but his overseas audience mostly is, which was the problem i suppose. yeah they're small ears i'd think, his audience is called the copper hounds too? so even if the dog-inspired themes isn't there as visibly, the dog-theme is still there in the lore and/or audience support.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 05:43:22 No.6488945 Are any of the smaller agencies good? I was looking into tsunderia, i just want something I have a chance of actually making plus I don't want to deal with the stress and control of larger organizations.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 05:46:03 No.6488997 >>6488945 There's still plenty of control in smaller orgs, it's of the same sort just to a slightly lesser extent

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 05:46:52 No.6489007 >>6488945 I don't know how many, if any, which aren't scams, actually hire men though.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 05:52:17 No.6489103 >>6488997 Smaller companies are more willing to be relaxed and branch out. There might be some overall mandates but when its only like 3 dudes in "charge" the talent has much more sway.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 06:40:47 No.6489921

>>6488945
Tsunderia have decent transparency and visibility, maybe check out the general + archive and get an idea of them for yourself. Char and Urara are both managers and talents, so maybe look at them, they did this AMA a little while back which was relevant to auditions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZlNvm7I3m0

Not sure what other agencies would be opening auditions soon, I don't think any have indicated anything aside from CyberLive. For now they're untested, but we'll have had a better look at them by the time the auditions open.
https://twitter.com/SatoMisakien/status/1410445728065855488

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 07:14:18 No.6490601 How do you even network? Just dm them?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 07:21:42 No.6490777 >>6490601 No? Comment on their stuff every now and again. RT them but not all the time. It’s a process, and DMing someone you don’t know is too full on

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 07:29:30 No.6490954

>>6490601
There's three approaches I have, and they all seem to sort of work.

1 - "networking threads"
Find a networking tweet, reply with your own PNG. Reply to some of the others, drop a few follows, chat about what you like on some of the designs

2 - Tag search
Look up Vtuber/VtuberUprising/ENVtuber/VtuberEN, find people of a similar size to yourself (order of magnitudish. Don't go for Gura if you've got 100 followers). Follow them, and comment on a recent post or two.
Might also be worth trying with your game's tag, although there's a lot of non-chuubas

3 - Zig-zag
Find a vtuber you do like who's too big for you to reach out to without clout chasing.
Look through their followers for people tagged as chuubas at a similar level to you. They share an interest with you already, so you have a basis to work from.

Interact with them slowly. Don't like and retweet all their stuff. But if they have a question, or it's something you can honestly relate to, then go for it.

I've found shitty mspaint memes can work wonders. In fact, low quality might be good here, because it shows you're embracing the scuffed quality that comes with being new and small; whilst allowing growth.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 07:35:45 No.6491111

>>6490954
>>6490601
Oh, and one more thing!

Be polite.

vTuberLister followed about 3000 accounts, retweeted (manually) a chunk of vtuber tweets, and set up lists based on themes and content. Somewhere like 200 lists, he managed all manually?

He had a meltdown last night, now only follows 180 accounts, changed the account name, and is talking to himself.

https://twitter.com/AverageJohnn

He was (I think deleted though) also calling people out who followed, begged to be put in lists, then unfollowed him.

--

In unrelated news, do you guys have two sets of twitter accounts? My own is full of useless shit I don't care about now from networking.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 07:37:46 No.6491171 Are you making friends through this?

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 07:40:54 No.6491254

>>6491171
I've only been attempting to network for the past week or so, and I'm coming from a base of pretty much zero (I have no prior content. My twitter had one retweeted joke from a failed comedian in about 2010)

I've got three extra active chatters this way. All of them streamers themselves, but they're tending to retweet my announcements to their own followers. Last night I finally maintained an average of 3.1 viewers through a stream (been going for ~3 weeks).

They're not friends (yet), but they seem like decent people, so they might be in the future.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 08:08:28 No.6491857

>>6491111
>In unrelated news, do you guys have two sets of twitter accounts? My own is full of useless shit I don't care about now from networking.

completely separate device with the account for networking/announcing streams so I don't accidentally use my private account for anything

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 08:18:53 No.6492146 I'm aiming for the cheapest mic investment in guide cause i'm poorfag aka Shure SM58 but can somebody explain difference between Shure SM58S, Shure SM58LCE and so on?

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 08:25:28 No.6492336

>>6490954
I've wondered though, what do you do next after you've liked/commented on these people's stuff, the networking is then pretty much limited only to twitter, unless the point is to try and get that person's audience's eyes on you by virtue of them interacting with your stuff?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 08:32:35 No.6492540 File: 3.16 MB, 3200x1800, 1624648133736.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6477219

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 08:33:46 No.6492580

>>6492336
That's part of it yeah, getting their audience to see your stuff.

But it's also getting the other chuubas into your stream, and liking you enough to raid you.

I raided yesterday with the 4 people I had at the end of stream. I'd planned on going to one of the people I'd found on Twitter, but she'd had to cancel her stream.

If I had gone to her, she'd have had double her audience (to begin with, at least), and maybe gained an extra follower or two out of it. And then if she streams at a different time, she might pass her viewers on to me.

Apparently, based on stats people werequoting a few threads back, the viewer:streamer ratio used to be ~30:1, but is now pretty close to 1.5:1

So a chunk of your audience are going to be streamers. You need to appeal to them, and they'll bring their own audience as well (maybe through hosting, or the like, too).

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 08:39:27 No.6492721 >>6485743 >>didn't even come up with a last name during my audition I wouldn't worry anon, I did the same but introduced myself in Japanese too. As long as you streamed in character I think that it'll be fine - that's more important than a name.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 08:49:12 No.6492951 >>6492540 uooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhh

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 08:58:02 No.6493150 I know it's a meme in the back room, but is there an actual list of the vtubers who are from these threads? They do seem like a good network to fall into.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 09:22:46 No.6493758 >>6492540 Ugh I'm in love with the bird's design. I'm going to be so heartbroken when NIJI doesn't view my audition

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 09:33:35 No.6494061 >>6493758 She’s super cute right. I auditioned for her even though voice isn’t loli at all. Let me be the Valkyrie birdie niji

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 09:33:59 No.6494076 >>6492540 Cat is adorable, but it's probably for the best I didn't get my audition in in time, my voice just wouldn't be a good match for her.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 09:55:26 No.6494758

>>6493758
>>6494061
>>6494076
I tried for both and also the ghost. I wasn't going to even try for the cat because (aside from popularity) from just the shadowed version I thought her cape was plaits or something, but I was totally sold on her from this image. I can do a decent loli voice, but they might get filtered by my English accent if they actual view my audition

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 10:05:37 No.6494993 I'm still kind of struggling with what I should actually post on twitter. So far I've been posting stream updates, but social media has always been an Achilles heel for me.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 10:10:38 No.6495096 >>6494993 I've just been posting stream and content updates. I don't normally use Twitter anyways, I have no idea how people post so much on there

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 10:12:56 No.6495145 >>6493150 there is no chuubas on 4chan I simply relay every post to them

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 10:14:03 No.6495182 >>6495096 I've started posting pictures of my morning coffee for shits and giggles, but besides that I can't think of anything else. I'd post memes but all the ones I have saved are related to guns, which wouldn't exactly fit the kayfabe.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 10:16:10 No.6495233

>>6495096
Memes, upload clips (clip them yourself, if nobody else does), retweet other chuuba announcements, any troubles you have with SLOBS, community polls...

Consider commissioning cheap skebs, and upload them (make clear they're not yours) to fill up your tags.

This one >>6495182 is a good idea. It means you'll always appear in fans feeds at the same time, and people seem to follow literally hundreds on Twitter, so always posting your coffee keeps you semi-active in the algorithm.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 10:16:11 No.6495234 >>6495182 There's an idea, if I'm doing a reading stream, I could post a picture of the book. I'll be using a digital copy for the stream itself, but could still be a good visual.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 10:20:16 No.6495336 File: 159 KB, 904x1205, 20210712_094850.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6495234 I've been including magazines so far, yesterday was L'Officiel, and today was Black Powder Cartridge News.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 10:23:32 No.6495414 should I shill out on a big artist drawing me and good rigging?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 10:25:04 No.6495451 >>6495414 Start streaming with a PNG first, for the love of god if I see another VTuber spend $1000+ on a model and rigging and then be like 'oh streaming isn't for me' I am going to lose my shit

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 10:27:41 No.6495498

when is a good time to start being in others chats and following/interacting on twitter? do you need to have a PNG drawn or should you start before with just stock photos?
I'm doing test streams with a stock photo image to figure out tech and sound but feel like people would be put off if they see someone follow and it's all just placeholder shit and no real art done yet

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 10:29:09 No.6495543

>>6495414
Are you new?

Big artist and big rigger is the biggest buff you can get. Especially if you have a 'brother'/'sister' with the same artist/rigger pair, as they will often shill you if they like your content at all.

But if you're not sure if streaming is for you, I wouldn't yet. Unless it's entirely disposable income.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 10:30:51 No.6495568

>>6495498
The best time to start being active in chats was yesterday, Anon.

Don't shill yourself in other people's streams, but you should be a vaguely recognized name for some of their regulars at some point (so long as they're not 1000 viewer).

Start interacting now. Go and do your networking reps for today.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 10:32:29 No.6495605 >>6495498 I'm using clip art and stock photos while I wait for art to come in, but I'm very pleasantly surprised to see people engaging with my content anyways. Go for it, anon!

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 10:33:44 No.6495635

>>6495568
ok thanks, I've been hanging out and talking in a lot of chats, just had a nervous spell when I followed a couple smaller tubers I watch on twitter but realized nothing I have has any key art because I'm still doing my reps to try to draw it while I do practice streams
didn't know if that was going to leave a bad impression if they go to their new followers and see some almost blank account in progress

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 10:33:55 No.6495638 >>6495605 Like you just stream with an image of an eggplant?

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 10:33:57 No.6495639

>>6495451
>>6495543
i have streamed for 6 months so far, but i can get a live2d model now that i got an iphone. but i am thinking of making a new persona and debuting with a new overlay. because i am still 2view. i also never had a predebut period and i regret that. but I applied to tsunderia and niji so i will wait for those before i go all in
or just quitting kek but i already invested too much and i like streaming

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 10:34:45 No.6495656 >>6495638 that's the barbershop guy, he uses a clipart image as an avatar for now

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 10:37:31 No.6495720

>>6495638
>>6495656
Yup, didn't want to wait for my artist friend to finish a PNG, but wanted to start streaming, and I'm pretty hopeless at drawing, so I went with clip art for the time being. I figure that by the time things start looking more professional, I'll have worked out some of the kinks that come with being a novice streamer. I'm having fun already though, so I'm glad I just decided to dive in.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 10:40:02 No.6495767

>>6495639
In which case, if you have the money to go for a big artist and rigger, absolutely go for it if you can manage to get a slot. It can be a huge buff, but it is definitely tougher to get slots with the bigger artists now.
I'm glad you're enjoying streaming though, even if you're only 2view, that's the most important thing

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 11:06:38 No.6496351 >>6495639 So long as you know you're not going to give it up in a few weeks, then go big, I guess. Getting the files also means you can start building hype, but don't be a dick about it, I guess?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 11:08:29 No.6496393 Is playing a shmup a bad idea for a debut game? I'm thinking of doing ikaruga.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 11:10:25 No.6496450 >>6496393 TANE.... If you're good at it then sure, and it has some relevancy to your future content. Most people I know who played a game usually made it something they know (so they can commentate easier) and fit their niche.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 11:11:22 No.6496473

>>6496393
>shmup
Can you interact with chat through it?

It needs to be something you know (so you can comment on it), something you're either good at, or funny with (so chat cares), and ideally one where you can chat with chat, so they don't lose focus on you.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 11:12:06 No.6496494 >>6496393 Love that game, personally, so if you do, drop a link so I can watch. I think just choose a game you like and can talk while playing.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 11:14:10 No.6496552 >>6496450 >>6496473 >>6496494 I can one CC it, so I'll probably die looking at chat a few times, but not too much to make it a slog.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 11:24:34 No.6496811 >>6496552 If you can provide interesting commentary then sure, even if you don't 1CC it if you can showcase why someone should watch you after this stream then it's a good time. Ikaruga is a famous game so it'll get a lot of ears perked

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 11:41:55 No.6497345 >>6496552 I'd definitely sub to a chuuba who plays a lot of shmups

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 11:46:14 No.6497465

>>6493150
The closest thing to that was the GhostBin but that's been dead for weeks at this point
The closest thing is this tiermaker, though it uses twitter profile pics and has no names on it so it might be hard to find people that have changed display pictures
https://tiermaker.com/create/-wvt--v6-tier-list-maker-1041863
Honestly though, if you follow a couple of chuubas from here it won't be hard to find the rest since they all follow each other

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 11:49:03 No.6497518 How important are Twitch follows? How important is it to follow on Twitter? Could I get away with not doing either, or would that be disastrous?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 11:50:22 No.6497554 >>6497518 twitter follows are useless twitch follows adheres to the 1% rule (an average streamer will see 1% of their followers will actually watch their streams)

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 11:52:29 No.6497599 >>6497554 I unironically feel like I enjoy having a low follower count because it makes my % of followers watching me higher.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 11:53:08 No.6497616 >>6497599 that's dumb as fuck but you do you, anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 12:24:26 No.6498556 >>6497554 >twitter follows are useless I meant following other chuubas for networking. Is that necessary?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 12:25:29 No.6498589 >>6498556 following chuubas isn't networking, you need to do more than just follow, but it's a start

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 12:27:37 No.6498674 twitter follows can be nice even if it doesn't translate directly to views. having followers mean you have more reach and people get googly eyes at someone with a lot of follows so you might land in situations you might not have with no following

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 12:27:55 No.6498683 https://twitter.com/himono_vtuber/status/1414957865626968064 imagine getting a rig from Himono...

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 12:35:42 No.6499001 >>6498683 That's mind-blowingly good

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 12:44:45 No.6499328

Networking and making friends is hard. I'm certain it's been said before but v-chatting and v-tweeting are actual strategies to get your name out there before making content.
If you can, make fanart. Doesn't matter how scuff it is. Look for chuubas with strong designs and maybe 10 views and give them an mspaint doodle and you'll make their day. I appreciate any fanart I get.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 12:46:17 No.6499386 >>6498683 Most of the credit there goes to the artist who drew both front and profile angles, rather than the rigger.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 12:46:18 No.6499388

>>6499328
yeah the stigma against vchatting and vtweeting are just that some people never stop to start up their stream
it's very useful and fun to just sit in people's chats and that's the problem is some people get a decent following by doing their networking reps, then start up their stream and realize that whoops they forgot to practice anything else

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 12:47:06 No.6499421 >>6498683 the blending for the hair is really bad once you notice it. but turning the face 90 degrees to the side is crazy considering it's only using deformers

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 12:48:05 No.6499462 >>6499421 that's true the blending is bad but in truth not very many vtubers will regularly go that far, it's not as noticeable in the angles where you would most likely stay

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 12:48:58 No.6499493 You guys sound like robots when talking about 'networking'. Just interact with people, it's not hard.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 12:49:45 No.6499519 >>6499493 Where do you think you are?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 12:51:08 No.6499567 >>6499493 that's what I do but it feels like when I come back up here to this thread I start talking in a more clinical, cold way

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 12:52:23 No.6499612 >>6499328 >Doesn't matter how scuff it is I mean, did you ever see DragonBloodTrader's shitposts? I have no idea if he's braindamaged, a four year old, or serious

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 13:09:59 No.6500222 >>6499386 Didn't she drew her model by herself as well?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 13:10:38 No.6500247 >>6499493 I'm trying but the only people that seem remotely interested in interacting beyond liking each others' tweets are my viewers that don't stream, not people with clout I can mine

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 13:17:19 No.6500503 >>6500247 What do you stream? Someone here might be interested if you have similar tastes

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 13:34:16 No.6501142

>>6500247
next time someone from the back alley comes to adopt an aspie, post yourself and don't be scared
chances are they'll watch and you can at least ask for feedback
I'm normally not one for blind DMs but I think it's fair if someone comes to your stream and chats for a bit to DM them on twitch and ask what they thought of your stream for feedback

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 13:46:12 No.6501489

>>6500503
Mostly Valorant even though I'm really bad since it's my first FPS. Not the best game to get my name out there since I'm not very good but I also don't want to force myself to play games that I don't enjoy as much

>>6501142
I will make an attempt to muster enough courage to do this one day. My new friends say I'm fine and they enjoy my streams but probably only because they play with me, not because I'm actually entertaining

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 13:47:00 No.6501518 >>6501489 Nothing ventured, nothing gained, right? Go for it!

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 14:03:11 No.6502010

>>6498683
Wow I only just found out what she rigged Risu 1.0. Imagine being rigger and putting so much effort into your works until one day company will switch it other cause they think your rigging sucks... Her Risu angles is weird but they could have asked her to fix them.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 14:07:40 No.6502148

>>6499493
>try to be friends with group of people who streams the same content as me
>they like my content and encourage me alot
>I like their content as well
>always wanted to collab with them and join their friend group but I understand boundaries and try not to push too hard
>new chuuba starts streaming same content a week ago
>immediately becomes friends with my idols
>immediately get taken under their wing and is taught everything about content creation
>immediately gets to collab with them everyday
Jealousy and envy is a bitch. Back to the self-loathing grind for me.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 14:10:30 No.6502247 >>6502148 if you're easily jealous you need to get out of this hobby

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 14:12:14 No.6502307 >>6502148 You can still try to be friends with them! Otherwise there's always next time. Just go for it. Even if they're hesitant at first at least they know you want in so when they do feel more comfortable they can welcome you

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 14:14:26 No.6502374 `did you guys create your own conceptart for your character?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 14:18:40 No.6502529 >>6502374 Yes, that's why I'm so attached to my design even though it's not as elaborate and fancy as a lot of vtubers out there

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 14:23:02 No.6502669 >>6502374 Yeah, I did my own design and created my character with partially my personality and then filled in the rest with common tropes/subverting tropes

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 14:31:18 No.6502910 >>6502374 My character is literally the first thing I ever drew digitally. It's kind of sketchy-looking, but I was able to figure out how to rig it myself.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 14:31:46 No.6502926 Hi I'm dumb. What is 2view?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 14:32:29 No.6502934 >>6502926 2 viewers. Your own view + one other person, I think? I don't know how Twitch counts views.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 14:34:43 No.6503012 >>6502934 Oh, thank god I'm not that bad. I multicast to youtube, so I'm a 3view.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 14:35:49 No.6503041 >>6502926 2view is a state of mind 2views usually keep to themselves, don't engage in larger community stuff or make friends, so as a result they don't ever get their name out and sit at under 10 views because of that

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 14:37:29 No.6503090 File: 103 KB, 768x768, olwmyo3kcua71.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6484352 they come in somewhat regularly but it's hard for new people to recognize them

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 14:42:34 No.6503231

>>6502374
My character is based on one I played in DnD a while ago, backstory and all.

I'm shit at art though, so I commissioned someone on fiverr for the original design. I've since used that piece of art to get a second design that's slightly less 'darkest dungeon' vibe though

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 14:44:14 No.6503303 >>6502374 To clarify, my character is literally just a self-portrait of me wearing a witch hat, with a made-up background that fits my appearance. >>6502910

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 14:50:02 No.6503492 >>6484352 I've got a lot of blogging experience, but that doesn't map onto vtubing very well.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 14:52:49 No.6503578 >>6503492 Do a blog about other vtubers or the vtuber experience or stuff vtubers might find useful. Content is content.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 14:54:59 No.6503647 >>6503578 this just gets you a chat full of vtubers ask Jusagi how well this goes over

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 14:55:56 No.6503673

>>6503578
Not a bad idea. Maybe a blog post that accompanies each stream? So for my barbershop recording streams, I could give a quick musical breakdown of how the process works, history of the piece, for a reading stream, I could give light analysis of the text (especially for poetry), background on whatever game I'm playing. That ties in pretty well with my idea of being a professor. Thanks anon, I think I'll start a blog to run parallel with my channel and Twitter.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 14:57:17 No.6503718 >>6503673 Yeah that's kino stuff m8, especially if you're good at communicating theory for the laymen. >>6503647 Fair be, don't cater directly to vtubers but a wider audience

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 15:05:14 No.6503983

>>6503718
I have a lot of experience breaking down those concepts for a general audience. The way I think of it, you should explain things like you're talking to an interested twelve year old. If you can communicate concepts at that level, then even complex topics, like music theory, or poetry, stop being intimidating, and can capture interest. The blog probably wouldn't get a ton of readership, but frankly, it wouldn't take me long to write up posts to accompany each stream, and it just gives one more avenue of engagement for interested viewers. I do want my streams to be at least a little bit educational, when possible, after all.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 15:12:43 No.6504292 File: 222 KB, 2048x2048, pHPB0ee.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hey guys, I'll be doing another test stream in about half and hour or so. Come join if you want to yell at a 2view bumbling around in VR! https://twitch.tv/pommemade

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 15:14:26 No.6504380 [SPOILER]

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>>6502374
Yes.
The whole thing is a hobby to kill time and the aspect of creating a concept, modelling and rigging is for me a big part of the fun.
>Pic related
My WIP attempt at Walfie's style. I know the lines are too thin and there's too much detail but that's easy to change..... and there are no legs but

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 15:16:17 No.6504483 >>6502374 I just put a scarf on myself and called it a day.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 15:18:47 No.6504593 File: 132 KB, 1054x426, 1626203927166.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6502374 Oui. It was very fun!

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 15:23:27 No.6504800 >>6504380 I like it! Good job, anon. It looks distinct from Walfie, in a good way. It's your own thing

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 15:24:18 No.6504831 >>6504380 happy round man makes me smile :]

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 15:33:39 No.6505253 >>6502374 No I paid someone else so it looks good

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 15:37:34 No.6505447

>>6490601
late post, but don't try to "network", people smell it a mile away and you're just going to have a bad time.

what you do is just hang out with people you like, that's all networking is. see a vtuber you like? follow them, if they say something funny comment on it. if you like something, tell them you like it. watch their streams and talk on it.

that's all networking is.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 15:43:55 No.6505737

>>6505447
This. I've made a lot of friends (not "friends", genuine friends who I talk to on and off of Twitter) with a lot of vtubers significantly bigger than me. I don't like to ask them to do things like collab, because I feel like a burden being so much smaller, but it was all through natural engagement. Twitter, Chat, Discord, etc. It just takes a handful of friends to start being included in things, I'm at the point where all the new people I meet now are just friends of friends. It helps create a solid "Network" that's actually natural and not forced.

People find this hard or confusing to do because they're autistic as fuck though and think they can @ silvervale over and over til she noticed you. You need to be told how to make friends, you probably never will

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 15:45:07 No.6505786 >>6505737 Do you join their fan discords to chat?

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 15:50:22 No.6506001

>>6505786
Some of them I have, early on. I don't have to do that as often any more since I'm usually just introduced to people via more private friend-group discords and impromptu invites to collabs.

Keep in mind I'm a small hobbyist, all of you are probably going to be bigger than me a lot faster as well, but you need to know how to make friends and socialize. I get it's hard being social for a lot of people into this hobby, but fake it til you make it. There's no harm in replying to a tweet by someone similar in size to you, people like positive interaction especially if you actually mean it.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 16:02:49 No.6506560 >>6502374 Yep. And backstory. In an actual lightnovel-ish form. I may have done a bit too much actually...

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 16:04:19 No.6506660 >>6506560 If you did more than any corporate vtubers lore, you did too much. Your lore should be a paragraph at most and not anywhere on the forefront, kayfabe filters more people than it draws

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 16:04:27 No.6506665 >>6502374 yeah, drawing a shitty little animation for my 'debut' instead of using the l2d too. then i'll just stream with a jpg until i can be assed to pay someone to rig it for me because i'm too lazy to learn it.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 16:07:31 No.6506805

>>6506660
Oh, I have a little paragraph for it too, but I had an idea to make a sort of "game" out of it, adding a small ARG to my channel via things like unlisted videos. This way the sort of folks who enjoy that sort of deep diving have something to do, but it won't interfere with regular content.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 16:17:12 No.6507170 >>6504483 Roman...

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 16:18:02 No.6507196

>>6506805
Maybe instead have them halfway into certain streams, like during a short break depending on their length. You can Highlight them to keep them archived but still let people interested watch and it feels more like short "episodes" than something people need to hunt

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 16:18:16 No.6507205 >>6506560 >>6506805 Please be male.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 16:20:52 No.6507291 >>6507205 I am. This is one of my ideas to try and overcome the debuff.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 16:31:16 No.6507618 >>6504292 Did you die?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 16:32:25 No.6507644 >>6507618 I am in the midst of dying yes, haha. Just grabbed some water, I'll be back on in a minute.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 17:12:11 No.6508990 >>6492540 I vibed better with ghost but Bird is actually really cute, clothes-wise.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 17:15:27 No.6509077 >>6492540 I auditioned for Fox of Heaven - did anyone else shoot their shot for her? Curious because I've only seen auditions for the first three.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 17:19:04 No.6509206 How many of you /asp/ies here are new to streaming in general?

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 17:22:14 No.6509299

>>6509206
I've been streaming on and off for about 7 years on my old account at maybe 5-10 hours a week, never built up a following of more than 70 or so followers and 5 viewers at a time but I worked up the OBS skills, voice work, mic settings, game settings, hardware, etc
I stopped doing it for a while but some vtubers reignited my passion for trying and I want to put more effort in this time instead of just cruising in the bottom of twitch and never talking to anyone

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 17:24:40 No.6509364 >>6509206 used to stream a lot of league and starcraft back in the days of justin.tv before they rebranded to twitch. but i'm also like a decade older and more ornery

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 17:25:23 No.6509388

>>6509206
I have video making experience, although never got very big- about 1000 subs as a group effort before the group drifted apart and everything got deleted. Beyond that I have personal streaming to friends that I've gotten good enough at to not boomer most things, but not much experience in the public sphere.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 17:28:37 No.6509474 >>6509206 I haven't streamed at all before, the closest I did was make some let's plays back in 2008 I'm still working on my model & I want to get it done before I start streaming

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 17:30:34 No.6509529

>>6509299
by no talking to anyone I don't mean I never talked to chat, that was my strong point was talking to the void and conversation
I just meant I never networked, went in other streams, had a twitter, or did much except boot up a stream and chat to about 5 randos while I did dailies/weeklies in an MMO

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 17:32:24 No.6509576 >>6509206 New to streaming, not new to video making. I'm used to having hundreds of thousands (and even over a million on one vid) views on my videos, but never that much attention to doing something live.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 17:34:02 No.6509620 >>6509206 I’ve tried a couple of times before, for like two days at a time, but this is the most serious effort I’ve ever put in.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 17:34:11 No.6509623

>>6509206
I've streamed a couple times for like one person before. I've never been a successful content creator outside of making memes years ago and I can struggle through photoshop (and I'm doing it right now on my png, actually), but that's about it.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 17:48:43 No.6510076 >>6509077 I didn't just because I knew my vibe was wrong for her, I think you're the first one I've seen going for her though

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 17:54:07 No.6510314 >>6509206 Completely new. It's going better than I expected, though.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 18:01:18 No.6510625

>>6509206 here
I put my OBS reps over the years into a tweet thread for anyone that's stuck on something like Streamlabs OBS, but wants a bit more control over their setup: https://twitter.com/OGBT_Orion/status/1414715532243259392?s=20
The goal is to help a non-zero number of chuubas stay away from the mess that is Streamlabs OBS and build some skills with the most basic form of the streaming software. No need to break containment to interact with any of this either. /asp/ was the only place I could think of that would benefit from seeing this, so I hope this finds you all well. Feel free to rip it for the thread pastebin or something if you feel inclined too. I'm just looking to spread the knowledge where I can.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 18:05:39 No.6510819 >>6510625 This will be really helpful for me, thank you anon. I dove right in with OBS Studio, and it was pretty overwhelming at first. Any help is much appreciated.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 18:05:40 No.6510820 >>6510625 based, fuck SLOBS

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 18:38:09 No.6512109
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I am positively pooped after that stream, haha. I was relatively fine with FitXR, but Thrill of the Fight massacred me. Thank you all for witnessing the scuff. Critiques, criticisms, and general grievances are once again appreciated and encouraged.
>>6509206
As you can tell by the quality of my stream I am very new to this. The only form of content creation I did was two videos on Youtube. Streaming is a different beast entirely. Scary stuff...

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 18:40:43 No.6512219
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I remember mahjong getting popular in /r9k/ a few months ago, do you think Tenhou/MahjSoul streams could carve a niche in the saturated indie vtuber market, or is it too autistic of an idea? Would you be interested?

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 18:42:46 No.6512297

>>6512219
There's already a few mahjong soul streamers. The problem with making it your niche is you're mostly only going to get people who knows the game watching (and chances are they're already watching other people play mahjong), trying to obtain new viewers would be hard because it's not like mahjong is the easiest game to follow for a newbie.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 18:42:58 No.6512304 >>6512219 Would be a fun way to collab with people

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 18:44:22 No.6512356 >>6512219 already a flooded market. try touhou instead.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 18:48:50 No.6512522

>>6509206
I've had experience with 100+ viewers before. Did a lot of collabs. Have streamed games on and off since the days of Justin.tv. I'd say most of my experience is with making videos. I also made lots of let's plays during 2008-2011, so I'd say the skills have been very transferable to streaming games.

I did my reps in learning OBS and the ins and outs of the technicals involved in streaming games in general. I'm pretty confident at this point.
Considering how long I've been around in some form or another, I should be.

I think my main problem at this point is I don't want to rebuild a live streaming audience from scratch again.

It's incredibly disheartening to stream to almost nobody when I had an audience before. I'm an oldfag and I don't think I have it in me to start from zero again, at least not right now. So I'm hoping joining to join an agency (ideally Nijisanji) to sort out that problem for me.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 13, 2021 18:49:09 No.6512534 >>6512219 This isn't nearly as unique as you may believe. Even Ina plays Mahjong soul, or did play it anyway.

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