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6465182 No.6465182 [Reply] [Original]

I get the impression Kiara does not like IRyS and sees her as a potential threat. There are multiple things I have noticed that convey this.

Firstly before her debut when talking about her whilst streaming with Gura, she does not say anything positive about IRyS all of it seems fairly negative. Stating for her not to call her "Senpai" and stating she gets the impression she is reluctant to talk to them. Not once did she say that she was looking forward to her streaming or anything nice about her, pretty much that she is just shy. Fair enough Gura did not want to get in trouble talking about her from management but Kiara did not care and from my perspective only tried to big herself up by offering "Support" to her. - link here https://youtu.be/I0mpYxHT0DE

Secondly when IRyS Debuted on youtube the rest of the EN members and other Hololive members retweeted her stream and posted positive comments of support or excitement. Where as Kiara posted a tweet very late into IRyS's stream, positing the link with the caption "WATCHING BTW" . This to me seems like her management literally had to prompt her to post something because she did not want to give IRyS coverage on her Twitter.

Finally, Kiara has continued to completely ignore IRyS on Twitter, even when she is promoting her own album "Sparks" trying to get a mediocre song to 1 million. IRyS retweeted it saying how she loved it but she completely ignored her again lol. It seems clear Kiara is bitter that IRyS's first set of songs are way better and higher quality to anything she has put out and main mv has almost reached sparks in terms of views.

Personally I think this is rather petty and shallow of Kiara, however I can understand her mindset. At the beginning of her being at Hololive she said she did not want any future EN generations to come on board and just want it to be "us 5". Then suddenly IRyS arrives, who is an incredible singer, speaking fluent English and Japanese, does not force being a fake lesbian or lewd. It must hurt her pride or ego quite abit, she is no longer the number one English translator and IRyS is the complete opposite to her.

Honnestly, I feel sorry for IRyS she must feel quite alone right now and is getting little support from the other Hololive EN members especially Kiara. This whole event has made me respect and appreciate Ollie alot more, now thats a genuine kind and supportive person right there, unlike narcistic Kiara. Their complete opposite reactions to IRyS's debut on twitter literally says it all.

Obviously this is all my own speculation and opinion, do you think I am completely wrong and reading too much into this? Either way, so far I am really enjoying IRyS it so refreshing to have her apart of Hololive EN

>> No.6465218

>>6465182
Nigger, I'm not reading your schizo essay.

>> No.6465253

>>6465182
tl;dr just take your meds

>> No.6465283

>>6465182
Hmmmm mid to low teir rrat. You gotta learn to shorten these up too

>> No.6465323

Kiara since debut, has said she doesn't want any more members for HoloEN.

>> No.6465368

>>6465182
IRyS is in a completely different lane than Kiara, they won't directly compete. Other than being salty about Cover not helping much with music, which is nothing new, and not IRyS fault regardless, Kiara hasn't been annoyed by anything, you're just going crazy and reading too much into it.

>> No.6465375

(You) for the effort now kill yourself please

>> No.6465465

>>6465323
She said she didn't want any more for a while so they had time to bond as a group (and let's admit, have the spotlight for themselves) not that she never wanted more members. She's also talked about wanting to be a senpai. I think most of us also did not want a new gen for a while, so it's hypocritical to knock Kiara for admitting to feeling the same.

>> No.6465468

be a good person, don't ruin happy things for yourself by going crazy for no reason. go out and have a walk and enjoy the summer

>> No.6465493

>>6465182
Does OP have a grudge against or dislike IRyS?

>It so refreshing to have her apart of Hololive EN
"apart" here looks like it might be a typo, but isn't it actually OPs passive aggressive way of saying that he wants IRyS to be "apart" from Hololive EN?

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>> No.6465554

>>6465182
This is beautiful, but you should still take your meds.

>> No.6465574

>>6465182
This is legitimately hilarious bait good job anon

>> No.6465657

>>6465182
>Stating for her not to call her "Senpai"
Complete opposite of what she said on that stream. You put an obvious lie at the very first part of schizo, are you retarded?

Take your med or kys, choose one

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>KIARA TWEETS KIARA TWEETS KIARA TWEETS KIARA TWEETS KIARA TWEETS KIARA TWEETS KIARA TWEETS KIARA TWEETS KIARA TWEETS KIARA TWEETS KIARA TWEETS KIARA TWEETS KIARA TWEETS

>> No.6466021

>>6465323
I agree with Kiara, IRyS doesn't belong and should've never been added

>> No.6466028

>>6465182
THE EGG IS A RRAT PEDDLER, HEIR OF AN AUTISTIC ANCESTRY THAT SHAMES THEM, PRONE TO SCHIZOPHRENIC RAGE, AUTISTIC OUTBURSTS AND GENERAL RETARDATION, SHOWN IN ALL THE CONFLICTS THEY'VE PROVOKED TO IMPOSE THEIR IMBECILIC ESSAYS ON EVERYONE, A CRAP-EATING RETARD... NOBODY IN THE CIVILIZED WORLD WANTS AN EGG, BUT THEIR AUTISM IS UNDERSTANDABLE, THEY LIVE IN A COUCH NEXT TO THEIR FRIDGE... THEY ARE ALSO DEEPLY AUTISTIC, YES, AND ARE OBSESSED WITH AN ORANGE BIRD THAT LIVES RENT FREE IN THEIR HEADS, THAT'S WHY THEY SCREECH (ME ME ME)

>> No.6466064

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>> No.6466255

>>6465182
Oh boy another stupid rrat shitpost about a Kiara tweet. Very bold choice with this one, anon.

>> No.6466402

>>6465182
tl;dr: Kiara has no talent and feels threatened. It was bad enough when there were four ENs more talented than her, now there are five.

>> No.6466488

>>6465182
Imagine how good our governance would be if we paid such attention to politicians. Even the vaxx powergrab would be impossible, because it would get called out immediately.

>> No.6466665

>>6465182
Imagine thinking of Irys as a threat. Her design is trash, and everything about her is mediocre besides her voice, and EN speakers care more about entertainment then actually being an idol, and she straight up isn't that entertaining. Kiara literally has nothing to worry about.

>> No.6466823

>>6466665
>Kiara is entertaining
wew lad

>> No.6466863

>>6466823
More so than Irys at least, but that's not a high bar, literally all 5 of them are more entertaining than her.

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This post.
There's something about this post.
It's a common joke that a lot of holos (primarily, and also in this case, Kiara) are their own antis on /vt/, which is, of course, completely absurd. Despite this, there's something so weird about how this SPECIFIC post comes off (the tone? writing style? content?) that immediately made me wonder if she herself wrote it. I know the chances are ridiculously, astronomically low but goddamn, whatif?

>> No.6468919

>>6466823
Well, compared to that first IRyS game stream, yeah. She has room to improve but I'm guessing she remains Anya levels of charisma. Good thing there are clippers that can hide that like they did with Ayame to keep that aloof mystery around her.

>> No.6469543

>6465182
Orange paint just orange paint! No more or less.

>> No.6469817

try actually watching the streams before breeding rrats

>> No.6469883

On member stream kiara was crying over how cover funded IRyS EP, a literall Vsinger they hired to SING!, and not show support by promotong her OG

>> No.6469927

Just post Kiara's tweet next time, retard, I'm not reading this

>> No.6470005

>>6465182
ogey

>> No.6470068

>>6465182
She's just jealous of her voice.

>> No.6470248
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>> No.6470336

https://streamable.com/eu65qz
From what I understand from this it seems that she's made about Cover not really doing anything to support her song.
Thats why she say she's not going to put that much effort anymore in her next original songs

>> No.6470452

>>6465182
didn't you just get banned for posting dox in /hlgg/

>> No.6470548

Imagine if they had given IRyS a 3D model. The slat.

They really should have, she needs to do some lives as a vsinger.

>> No.6470564

>>6470336
>she's not going to put that much effort anymore
>anymore
Yeah, her old songs where she sounds like a banshee are top tier.

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>>6465182
Less makey threads, more takey meds.

>> No.6470807

>>6470663
kek

>> No.6470938

Cover not promoting her music as hard and also announcing IRS on her birthday were shitty but they were Covers fault. Pointing out stuff like late tweets and misinterpreting what she said regarding senapai/kouhai stuff makes you look kinda paranoid my dude.

>> No.6470949

>Post a screenshot of Kiara praising her artist as well as her promoting her Debut stream
>Uses it for grounds for Kiara having a grudge.
>Posts a whole ass thesis

>"She's very SWEET. She called us senpai. I told her not to call us senpai, not call me senpai"
Literally The 2 minute mark of the clip you posted.

>> No.6471033

>>6468563
i mean, it's well done. forceful. clearly esl, but kind of a fluent esl. whoever wrote this cares way more about kiara than anyone who isn't kiara does.

>> No.6471104

>>6468563
If anyone would do such a thing it would be Kiara.

>> No.6471161
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>EN getting very close to their one year
>Kiara has multiple songs, makes good money and is a success by whatever metric one would measure success by.
>Nothing schizo lunatics have done have affected her in way, shape or form

Are you guys EVER going to stop? Like its over you've lost and you will continue losing as long as Kiara is a part of Hololive.

>> No.6472348 [DELETED] 

For anyone confused about these shitposts, it's coming from the "Hololive Historian" discord server. They're obsessed with Kiara.
see: >>/vt/thread/S6379148#p6383474

>> No.6472419

>>6471161
Relax dude. It was annoying to me at first. But then I realized that in retrospect this board is like 1% of the fanbase at maximum. And then I realized that most of that 1% stick to the generals and don't post shit like this. Odds are that this is one of the same guys who've been doing it from the get-go.

>> No.6472598 [DELETED] 

>>6472348
>They're obsessed with Kiara
He should see >>6466028

>> No.6472660 [DELETED] 

>>6472348
they got warned by discord so they're bringing their garbage here

>> No.6473087

>>6465182
Autism

>> No.6473194 [DELETED] 

>>6465182
Pretty good OP. Keep the rest of the board updated if you ever noticed something else.

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>>6465182
(You) could use some of these.

>> No.6473376 [DELETED] 

>>6472660
They should expect to keep getting warned because their users are fucking retarded.

>> No.6473432

>>6470336
>https://streamable.com/eu65qz
she's such a number fag to her own fucking detriment
doesn't she make the most out of all the EN girls anyway?

>> No.6473434

>>6465323
>It all needs to be about ME
I fucking hate this chicken like you don't believe

>> No.6473775

>>6471161
>>Kiara has multiple songs, makes good money and is a success by whatever metric one would measure success by.
AND SHES STILL FUCKING CRYING AND COMPLAINING ABOUT NOTHING
THAT'S WHY EVERYONE HATES HER
>Waaaahhh waaaaahhh i got 1m before 95% of the community im so sad
I don't even own a channel and this made me mad as fuck, now imagine the kick in the balls this is to the people hard stuck in 100k subs, 10k subs.
Go ahead and click on "Live" and see all the people with less than 100 views. I dare you. Now if you excuse me im going off for some paracetamol- just rambling gave me a headache

>> No.6473899 [DELETED] 

>>6473775
Maybe you should leave the "Holodrips" server. You've been brainwashed by the rest of the fags that can't stop thinking about Kiara 24/7.

>> No.6474017

Nah I agree with OP. Kiara's clearly salty that an Vsinger debut was announced on her birthday and that IRyS is more talented and japanese than she'll ever be

>> No.6474321 [DELETED] 

>>6471161
>Nothing schizo lunatics have done have affected her in way, shape or form
lol she's getting close to cracking

>> No.6474458

>>6474321
You said this six months ago.

>> No.6474513

>>6465182
Why even put this out, not like it's going to change how Cover does things.

>> No.6474903

>>6473775
fuck off KFP tranny

>> No.6475182

>>6474903
See >>6466028

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>>6472348
>>6472598
>>6472660
>>6473376
>>6473899

>> No.6475242

>>6465182
tl;dr

>> No.6475332 [DELETED] 

>>6472348
Just ran through the thread. It explains so fucking much.

>> No.6475439

>>6465182
First, I'm not reading this schizo essay
>>6470336
Second, she doesn't really seems to resent anyone but HERSELF due to her own incapability to reach higher tiers in anything for reasons that cannot be overcome with regular training sessions (genetics is a bitch), be it carisma, emotional intelligence, entertainment, comedy or even just singing skill or flat-out personality, she doesn't hater others, she hates being incapable and the blames therefore falls on her own ego.
>Anon, she "downgrades" her genmates
Unlike what schizos claim, Kiara will NEVER shank another co-worker/friend/genmate without it being a non-aggressive comedic jab, she will only blame herself for her own lack of stellar success, then again, part of this seems to be on Kiara's end as she seems half-way unable to get over not being in the top or nearing it atleast.
>So?
Kiara doesn't hate others for being more succesful, she just hates herself for NOT being THAT succesful. Even if she's on a very good position on the VTuber world...
Goddamn it Tenchou, why do you have to be that much of a numberfag???

>> No.6475807

>>6469883
Proof?

>> No.6475840

cool essays. keep posting them.

>> No.6475889

>>6465182
>does a self-absorbed menhera like Kiara hate someone who she sees as a threat
I dunno, let's ask Ollie.

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>>6473432
Kiara needs coco's Marie Antoinette speech badly.

>> No.6476393

>>6465500
only niggers can't read

>> No.6476646

>>6475439
Probably this desu

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>>6465182
Anon pls

>> No.6477651

>>6465218
nice try retard, try to be original next time

>> No.6477657

>>6473775
why do antis sound like they're on the verge of a mental breakdown?

>> No.6478262

>>6465182
>after years of research, british scientists have concluded that Kiara is indeed a bitch
>more news and 9

>> No.6479862

>>6470336
Mori member streams are usually Fall Guys plus trying to chug enough wine to overcome the crippling insomnia/shoulder pain. Didn't know the chicken used hers to rant about how she "doesn't feel supported"

>> No.6480056

>>6479862
Do you think any of HoloEN 1st gen "feel supported" by Cover?

>> No.6480157

>>6479862
she isn't even the first one

>> No.6480891

>>6466402
I'm pretty sure this is accurate because she's trying to leech on IRyS mama and unlike everyone said that the model sucks, she said its good just to make recognition to IRyS mama as well as thinking oh she's okay with it but don't forget Kiara is the one who accidentally "announce" IRyS first

>> No.6480939

>>6465182
If there's a Kiara equivalent of Trump Derangement Syndrome, this post is probably an example of one.

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>>6480891

>> No.6481031

>>6480891
hey jack zhang

>> No.6481183

>>6476093
Her mogu cover is pure sex. MARINA LOVE!

>> No.6481315

>>6480056
Bitches do be expecting to be treated like beyoncè despite being literal 0 talent failures

>> No.6481323

What a cancerous thread

This board and all of 4chin is bad for mental health unironically.

>> No.6481724

>>6465323
Nigger what the fuck are you talking about every time she plays minecraft she whines about there not being more members, it's been that way fore months.

>> No.6482027

>>6465182
Brevity is the soul of wit my friend

>> No.6482150 [DELETED] 

>>6465218
>>6465253
>>6465368
>>6465375
>>6465468
>Kiara's Faggot Paypigs have exited the discord

>> No.6482198

>>6482150
See >>6466028

>> No.6482210

>>6482150
>discord
stay there

>> No.6482216

>>6482150
all me

>> No.6482230

IRyS is half angel so she’s making a joke.

>> No.6482286 [DELETED] 

>>6482198
Kiara is the one screeching ME ME ME anon. I think you might have a concussion in your head.

>> No.6482380

>>6482286
We love you, anon, get well soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHU-2FMpIlU

>> No.6482427

>>6465182
Anon please, turn off your pc, phone whatever and log off the internet for a while, it's not healthy for you and many anon in here, please just do something you like, listen to music, play vidya, read some books, practice your hobbies instead of theorizing and creating imaginary scenario about girls you don't know anything about who are just doing their best to entertain people

>> No.6482589 [DELETED] 

>>6482380
You don't make any sense. Shilling your music? It's quite okay

>> No.6482742

>>6480964
Chinese and Bahasa both have no irregular verbs or suffixes to convert a verb into its past tense, so it is not surprising to see these errors made repeatedly by ESLs.
For example, in Indonesian, to say " I go to school" you say "Saya pergi ke sekolah", but to say "I went to school yesterday," you say "saya pergi ke sekolah kemarin". For an ESL this thus directly translates to "I go to school yesterday", since they may not remember or care about the simple past or past participle forms of the word 'go'.
Similarly, for Chinese, if you were to say "I'm going to attend school," you say, "wo qu shang xue", "我去上学". To say "I went to school yesterday would be "wo zuo tian shang xue", or "我昨天上学". As you can see, the action of attending school, "上学", reminds unmodified in both cases. The Chinese ESL is thus tempted to write "I yesterday attend school" - but most ESLs still are aware that in English, the position of "yesterday" is unnatural, so a step up from this is to write "I attend school yesterday".
I don't know why I wrote all of this out, I just found it interesting how people can identify ESLs at one glance, but might not be able to explicitly tell if they were Chinese or Indonesian.

>> No.6482806

>>6465182
wtf I love Kiara now

>> No.6482825

>>6482150
>discord
This is why Kiara antis are the laughingstock of this board

>> No.6482839

>>6465182
Nice essay but I'm not reading that

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>>6480891

>> No.6482950

>>6482742
interesting stuff anon. he did use some verbs in the past tense though, but his grammar was still atrocious, like it was machine translated

>> No.6483170

>>6475439
She was the least popular in her last idol group and now she is the least popular in this Vtuber group, that's gotta be a slap on the face to anybody's hopes and dreams.

>> No.6483247 [DELETED] 

>>6482918
The last bit killed me.
But Kiara is still shit as OP said.

>> No.6483553

>>6473775
Remember that guy from earlier who was all smug that Kiara blocked him on twitter and went, "she mad"
You can tell who's really mad, can't you

>> No.6483712

>>6465323
she wants more for minecraft slavery

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>>6482825
>This is why Kiara antis are the laughingstock of this board
He says this while seething on a supposed shitpost
Do chickenfaggots really?

>> No.6483993

Kiara has to drop her chicken voice act. She needs to start going to voice lessons. Her voice is not cute. She needs to find a way to get feedback and not force what she thinks is "good" and when it fails thinks it's because of other reasons other than her shit taste. She's delfecting when we all know Mori and Gura are successful in all of the music related endeavors they have pursued. I bet Ina's single will also do well.

>> No.6484017

>>6473775
Holy shit all i got from your post was
>i have nothing of worth yet I'm enviously mad at what Kiara has achieved.
Try growing a spine faggot, take a bath, do something for yourself instead of spending your day looking for things to get mad at people more successful than your sorry ass

>> No.6484020 [DELETED] 

ban evading already?

>> No.6484098 [DELETED] 

>>6483973
90% of you are from the doxcord, which automatically makes you the laughingstock for using that tranny-infested program.

>> No.6484152 [DELETED] 

>>6465182
back to discord, tranny
all fields

>> No.6484324

I really want to have some bantz knockin kiara and kfp but I'm convinced it genuinely hurts them, because it feels like my karma takes a massive hit from any engagement.
No other form of posting gives me as massive a twinge of 'did I hurt them? Are they upset?' which not only controls the present but any recollections of the postings.

This isn't to stroke my own ego, often my posts are insignificant. And i think even at best I am merely one part of a much larger tapestry, even if I do compliment myself by calling it quite a nice tapestry I help make up.
I wish I could post about this subject in a non serious manner, perhaps better described as just fun posting without much thought. But I feel guilt due to the burden of seeing her fans freak out over these posts, continually, as well as her fuck ups making past comments feeling like hitting somebody who's already down.

I don't want to kill the fun of Kiara's fans but i wish she wouldn't do some of the stuff she does. Or at-least I could poke fun about it and not feel like I'm poking something vulnerable.

>> No.6484375

>>6484017
What the anon is trying to say is that Kiara seems to be looking at things in an ungrateful way. She's more concerned about the fact that her numbers are bad but not the fact why it is bad. She cares more about the fame and accolades and not the craft itself. She should try to internalize what works mainstream if this is what she's so concerned about. Her Goodbye Declaration worked out well. I think because it's the song where she sound like a chicken the least. Not to mention that the song choice is good and the mv was great. If she keeps pushing out 90's edm style music or phased out weeby music, she's going to have to accept that she's not going to get the numbers that she wants.

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>>6483973

>> No.6484518

>>6465182
go post this shit again once you have shortened it in one paragraph

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>>6465182

>> No.6484802

>>6465182
For everyone that can't read basically OP
Is asking if the chicken is mad that the new girl is better?
Answer Yes. Also the other girls are being supportive Ame was even watching her stream while she was driving her bus and told people to go watch her.
Also IRyS is kinda Based because she's called everyone except chicken senpai.

>> No.6484908

>>6465182
Kiara is an attention whore. So she feels jealous

>> No.6484910

>>6484802
selamat malam

>> No.6484920

>>6484375
But anon i actually watch streams and know for certain how many times Kiara has expressed how grateful she is, how she feels she saved by being accepted in hololive and given a new dream to work towards: Saying she acts "ungrateful" for worrying about performance is just retarded, but she isn't even doing that. Also when someone goes
>THAT'S WHY EVERYONE HATES HER
that post can be disregarded as a schizo rant, since all they do try to twist her words, but in the end no one buys it, and no one gives a fuck besides the usual suspects that keep circlejerking about it.
Honest suggestion watch streams, form your own opinions, if you don't want to that's also fine but don't try to pass as someone that knows what he is talking about when you don't.

>> No.6485009

>>6484802
>because she's called everyone except chicken senpai
Kiara literally asked her not to call her senpai though? See the Akitoba III MC build stream from a couple days ago.

>> No.6485774

>>6484920
Ungrateful in this regard is more about her expressing her dissatisfaction on why she's not getting "support." She can say she's grateful but then again we have these moments. Both can be true at the same time. If you want to look at it with a broader perspective, Watame released 2 in a span of a week. Kiara's song is doing better compared to both. Watame hasn't expressed her dissatisfaction that she's not getting support. All she has been doing is expressing how thankful she is the she can even release a song. Morever, her whole "support" thing is really about numbers because Mori and Gura are getting by without any qualms. Polka releases covers twice a month and only really a few of them do well. You don't see her complaining that she's not getting support. Aki is doing worse. If Kiara goes into this emotional rant again after Ina's song is released and it becomes 1M after a week, you will know it's her numberfagging. She should just be happy that she can release the songs that she wants.

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>>6465182
>retweeting means "hate"

Holy shit, what's your problem? Take your meds

>> No.6486145

>>6465182
What "support" does Kiara want, just straight up cash to fund songs or more tweets as promotion, literally what is she asking Cover to do? It reads like she pissed at the debut of Irys more than anything else.

>> No.6486355

>>6465182
Convince me on why I shouldn't give you the 'ogey'.

>> No.6486402

>>6486145
>cash to fund songs or more tweets as promotion
that would be a start

>> No.6486422

>>6465182
I hope this is just a copypasta my god.
>clipfag link
Oh you're just promoting your clip. Fuck off.

>> No.6486624

>>6465182
Irys is a threat to Kiara's plan to inherit Coco's legacy as the brIdge between JP and EN.

>> No.6486707

>>6485774
>>6486145
The clip is even posted in this thread, chat brought up numbers and she says literally that is not it. The main point of concern is that she wanted to do something more with kira but was prevented by some internal issue she was not allowed to disclose, it's not even the first time a talent has expressed discontent over cover decisions and lack of support, pekora and marine did around the same time a while back, it was technically coco's shtick until graduation.
But yeah i should not expect any of you to know about it, nor the fact that kiara has always been more open to talk about internal stuff since the beginning.
I insist first watch streams then you may be able to provide educated opinions about the topic at hand instead of half baked conjectures from clearly deranged people in this board.

>> No.6487234

>>6482825
Just call everyone your facebook-tier meme (egg) and go like your brethren.

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>>6465182
that was a long ass read but this rrat might have a leg stand on. i look forward to a part 2 of this OP. im only in /vt/ for the drama

>> No.6487372

>6487234
when you try too hard to discredit a meme, it only serves to prove that it's working

>> No.6487493

>>6487237
kys dramafag.

>> No.6487520

ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME

>> No.6487605
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>>6465182

>> No.6487625

Kiara and a large amount of her fanbase are faggots/faggot lovers, who gives a fuck what she wants or thinks? She's one of the holo that could graduate and I'd not give a fuck. She don't like new talent? There's a door. Don't let it hit you on the way out cunt.

>> No.6487768

>>6487625
Seethe

>> No.6487776

>>6487768
Kek fag

>> No.6488416

>>6487625
Then what worth does your opinion has you retarded faggot? Actually keep screaming into the void i may get a kick out of you melting down.

>> No.6488575

>>6465182
You really need to do our reps around this board, though I can't really blame you, because every thread that had her recent vocal opinion on Cover and IRyS in her members stream brought up, for some reasons, people just stopped posting on them.
They just stop posting or derail the thread to other irrelevant things like "Kiara appears in this Minecraft stream, attention whore". It's a members stream so only a relatively small pool of people can disclose it on this board, but considering what she said, I was surprised there wasn't a single thread about it, until yours which honestly quite missed the mark.
Staying completely neutral here, I have to say Kiara does not have any kind of grudge against IRyS DIRECTLY. However, she showed frustration with Cover and the fact they funded IRyS' music production like no other holo before, which she is, for the most part, on the right.
Unless it's some shill songs or music on the official channel, the talents do take from their own pockets to pay for their own music production, they also have to make ther own connection to the producer of said music without the aid of Cover, albeit they had themselves the hololive brand tag.
She was ridiculously dumb to think a corporate like Cover would not eventually cash in on their success and push their bottomline. Things like equality between the talents get thrown out the windows once the company has the means to invest for major profits. IRyS obviously was presented with an offer nobody can ever refuse with her first EP and MV funded by Cover, so Kiara can't blame her.
Watson, despite not leaning towards music production herself, could still tell Kiara that she also thought it's unfair from Cover. Mori already moved on from the matter, being the only one who has been in the music production industry and knowing full well what a corporate prioritizes. Ina, bless her heart, is still working on her song, for months, but you bet your ass Cover won't bother promote it when it comes out. Gura who has too much on her plate already, still understood where Kiara was comig from.
If anything, you can all laugh at Kiara for how dumb she was to not understand how business works in a corporate. She's expected equal starting point and equal support from Cover when she didn't realize that never existed in the first place.
> Completely ignored her on Twitter
I suggest you don't read too much into it, Ina tweeted out the birthday art for her, Kiara retweeted it but only replied to the tweet hours later after streaming.
> Not to call Kiara "senpai"
This has been a topic on her stream for months, how the upper management told them that EN will be treated as a group, and there's no real Gen 1 Gen 2 Gen 3 etc. She brought it up many times that she wanted to treat everyone who joins EN on equal footing.
> big herself up by offering "Support" to her
Literally the entire 5 members of HoloMyth were so extremely nervous before their debut, so Kiara with her retarded empathy autism went and tried to help the newcomer.
tl;dr Kiara doesn't hold a grudge against IRyS herself, just the idea that Cover gave IRyS a huge head start in terms of music production. Ultimately, her blunt and autistic personality will show her spite against Cover through her interaction with IRyS.

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>>6488575
I also expected to see posts about chicken's mengen, but it seems containment held surprisingly long for this one.

Based on what Suisei has said, it'd seem Cover hasn't provided financial support for originals or covers from talents. She hasn't spoken about any sort of arrangements to support a talent's release on SNS at all. AZKi hasn't spoken publicly about promotion or cost, at least afaik, but she produces the most music and is the sole member of INNK at this time, so conditions for INNK may have changed since Suisei switched branches. Seems OK to assume that the rules for general talents in Hololive haven't changed at all and every talent pays and plans originals out of pocket. The only thing I could see would be an arrangement to have a pool of revenue per talent that cover uses to pay for talent expenses, which would be sensible to save on taxes.

I'd assume that there is a difference in contracts, in terms of promotion and financial support, for IRyS since she was specifically hired with the purpose of creating music. Whether that only covers her debut EP or a fixed number of songs per Q or annum, who knows.

>> No.6490315

https://streamable.com/eu65qz
So Kiara is feeling so down from getting musically BTFO by IRyS that even autistic Amelia can see it?

>> No.6490420

>>6490315
If musically BTFO means "lack of SNS support on cover channels and overshadowed with countdown/IRyS announcement", then sure, that's exactly what it means.

>> No.6490509

>>6490420
Bro she has over a million subs and is raking in tons of money solely because she's leeching off of Gura and the rest of EN's success, what more is she asking for?
Pomu has 100k subs despite being a way better vtuber because she's nishi for example.

>> No.6490646

>>6490509
You make a good point. Even if cover is a black company that doesn't support her at all and takes 90% of her earnings, she owes all of her success to them and the hololive brand. She would be NOTHING without them.

>> No.6490833 [DELETED] 

>>6490509
Nice bait, nijinigger.

>> No.6491290

>>6490315
>https://streamable.com/eu65qz
Why is her cat green? That's not a healthy color for a cat.

>> No.6491354

>>6488575
Lmao don't expect us to read any of that crap kfpfag, your opinion on this board is just the same regurgitated things that nobody gives a shit about

>> No.6491604

>>6490315
fine chimkin i'll listen to the damn song you dont have to weep

>> No.6491757

>>6488575
tl;dr Kiara is a entitled white bitch because daddy yagoo didn't lick her cunt.
face it kfp, your oshi is upset because cover found actual real talent like IRyS and decided to invest money in her.

>> No.6491764

>>6491604
honestly, times like these I almost understand the saviourfags that make her bank.

But then I remember she's a fucking millionaire

>> No.6492170

>>6490315
>its not about the views
it hurt hearing that and idk why

>> No.6492208

https://youtu.be/xYcRl17iEJM [Open]
Watch moona yoroshiku, she doing kino karaoke rn, mood booster to start your morning or evening

>> No.6492259

>>6470938
It was the day after her birthday though.

>> No.6492338

>>6492208
>singing normie music
I'll pass.

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>>6487520
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME

>> No.6492566

>>6492208
Don't use Moona's stream to try to derail the thread you pathetic, mentally handicapped subhuman scum

>> No.6493048

>>6491757
NTA, but I'm just curious. How different would a Vtuber be from a Vsinger? I know this gets asked quite a lot but so far I haven't seen the difference...at least at face value.

Like while IRyS has recently released her EP shortly after her debut, Calli did a similar thing as well albeit a bit later. There's also the fact that IRyS will be carrying out her Vsinger streaming schedule like her holo colleagues in general, that is a mixture of gaming streams, zatsudans and singing streams.

>> No.6493463

>>6493048
Irys has already explained this. It means she'l has music as her focus. Whatever games and other type of streaming she's going to do is solely because she wants to do them. Azki could have done this before but she's always busy with 2 other alts that also has music projects. If Irys suddenly gets flooded with music projects like concerts and stuff. You will see a drop in streams because she has to prioritize them by default.

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Did this nigger type an entire paragraph OP to seethe? Holy fuck rent free

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>Read my schizo essay or else you're a nigger that can't read!!11!!!
AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Remember all fields lmao

>> No.6493610

Why is kiara's singing voice so bad? Is it intentional? Does she really think people like that

>> No.6493652

Kiara needs to stfu with these stuff. If she wants to fucking get funded by cover then wait until another Bloom project is around. No sponsor wants her to sing. I don't see any music producers wants to do shit with her for free. Cover takes 50% after YT. Mind you that she won't even have the platform nor the funds to even do any if Cover didn't select her. And why would she be chosen, she's the least liked in EN for JP. Mori or Gura will always be selected for musical projects before her. The only person that should be bitchin are people like Aki whose numbers are dismal when it comes to doing stuff like this. Kiara can get her money back right after releasing it.

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>>6493652
>Kiara needs to stfu with these stuff
Learn English AHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAAHAHHAAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
https://youtu.be/WbyQaZZMDkM
https://youtu.be/WbyQaZZMDkM
https://youtu.be/WbyQaZZMDkM
https://youtu.be/WbyQaZZMDkM

>> No.6493720

>>6493652
Aki, Choco and Roboco all got to participate in Bloom. If Kiara wants in on the whole thing then she should go back to Tokyo because at this point, they will only release a new album to have another concert.

>> No.6493754

>>6493710
KFP always use the same insults, no originality.
Do you get paid to defend her? Or do you pay to defend her

>> No.6493783

>Finally, Kiara has continued to completely ignore IRyS on Twitter, even when she is promoting her own album "Sparks" trying to get a mediocre song to 1 million. IRyS retweeted it saying how she loved it but she completely ignored her again

post twatter screenshots
do your reps, schizo

>> No.6493794

>>6493754
You need to pay for an English teacher lmao

>> No.6493823

>>6493048
Vsingers
>hired to making musics
>their musical contents (Covers, Singles, Albums) got funded by holopro
>prioritize musical activities over streaming
>Doing lots of concerts either solo or on events.
Regular HoloTalent
>Focus on treaming or entertainment in general
>music activities are optional, if they want to go solo they can use the company connections and help but funded it themselves. HoloPro only fund group base music project like Bloom!
I think that's pretty much the core difference between the two

>> No.6493835

>>6493754
Yep, Kiara paid me million dollars to defend her. You got me, bro.

>> No.6493838

>>6493710
Sure. It doesn't change the fact that she still needs to be realistic and accept that she's the least liked and that her musical efforts are her own personal endeavor. Mori is the default musical holo because Gura is too timid amd was slow to release any stuff.

>> No.6493874

>>6493838
You need to realize and accept you and your doxxcord don't know English lmao

>> No.6493927

>>6493874
>hurr durr ESL I won the argument rumao
kill yourself

>> No.6493973

>>6493463
>>6493823
Grazie anonchamas!

>> No.6494005 [DELETED] 

>>6493927
t.doxcordseanig

>> No.6494016

>>6493927
t. cant speak a da engrish

>> No.6494027

>>6493874
I don't even have discord. I just know that so far, Mori has been chosen twice to lead a song. 1 for a sponsorship and 1 for Holoalt. Gura's song broke records. She can start by doing more karaoke and even going to a voice trainer. She can do what Polka is doing and release a song twice a month. Her song selections are always great. Not all. Do great but at least people now have a better perception of her musically much like Nene.

>> No.6494063

>>6494027
Not reading learn english

>> No.6494089 [DELETED] 

>>6493555
God I hate hololive historian he's worst than any clipchannel and when the faggot announces that his mother dies I'm going to send him a video of me pissing on her grave.

>> No.6494492

>>6493710
Now I like ollie

>> No.6494510 [DELETED] 

>>6494089
For a hololive-related content creator, he seems to be *subtle* about hinting their roommates. Reminds me of that one guy that has 'virus' in his channels' names. At least that guy got everything deleted by youtube.

>> No.6494899

>>6493710
If this was Kiara she would be sobbing for one hour in a members only stream.

>> No.6495017

remember when people would write long essays like these but about Kiara hating Coco

>> No.6495275

>What? Hololive talents have to spend money out of pocket to fund their musical endeavors? Pieces of shit, Cover really is a black company!
>Oh, really? You gonna cry because other chuubas in your company are getting support for musical endeavors instead of you? Ungrateful bitch, you should be glad you're working for Cover!
Pick a fucking side you schizos

>> No.6495313

>>6495017
Tbis is more retarded, at least in Coco's case there was a rrat booster, Kiara couldn't mention her. In IRyS' case, Kiara not only mentioned her, but she had nothing but posifive things to say about her.
> Said that ahe is sweet and how all EN girls are supporting her, even said she doesn't need to call her senpai, just so she can feel more at home
> Gushes over her model
> Gushes over her music and says she wants to sing them in karaoke
> Is giving her advice on discord and reassuring IRyS that everyone makes mistakes
> Literally says that the internal problems she is frustrated with have nothing to do with numbers or IRyS

>> No.6495342

>>6495017
>>6495313
Almost as if Kiara's actions have never mattered, only the chance to paint her in a negative light with rrats regardless of her intentions.
Unironically in this thread she's criticized for not keeping up the senpai-kohai system whereas the criticism for her in the months prior was that she's a japanophile despite being in HoloEN.

>> No.6495584

>>6465182
She is a narcissist who has claimed time and time again that she doesn’t want any more members. She is a self-conscious rat who sees anything and anyone as competition.

>> No.6496099

>>6495313
new rrat, Kiara realized competing against IRyS is a lost battle so she'll be leeching her for future projects.
Too bad Ina already reached out to her first and she really likes her so kiara will always be "the second one"

>> No.6496199

>>6495313
Those are points made to gloss over how she was seething over a VSINGER who was hired for SINGING get all the support from cover for her MUSIC.

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>>6465182

>> No.6496392

>>6495275
I pick C, cover should fund more music but Kiara needs to realize she, as a singer, would be one of the last people Cover would risk money on.

>> No.6496427

>>6496392
uh ignore my ESL, I didnt sleep enough

>> No.6496641

Didn't read but Kiara is a narcissistic bitch

>> No.6496709

>>6495584
Not true. She was also one of the more excited over new members and she wanted to make the minecraft server even better for newcomers.
>>6496099
>>6496099
Source: Your ass
Honestly, this is so forced that I feel sorry that you have to stoop so low just to have something to attack Kiara with.

>> No.6496761

>>6496392
Cover risks money on her all the time retard. They just want her to keep playing video games. Thanks for letting us know you don't watch her streams and your opinion carries a ton of weight.

>> No.6496799

Its like I never left /v/

>> No.6496832

>>6496392
>Everyone gets on the rotato of 1 song per month
>Each holo gets 1 song each 4 years or so
Sounds good to me.

>> No.6497232

>>6495275
Consider the following: Make good music that people will actually listen to.

>> No.6498063

>>6488575
>>6470336
Thank you for your replies, it has helped me see things from a different perspective and now have a better understanding of the situation.

I am not a member of Kiara's channel, so I did not realise her grudge was aimed at Cover rather than IRyS herself as she expressed during that members stream. Honestly believe it or not I do not hate Kiara or truly dislike her and this is the first time I have ever posted a thread on this board. There have been many times she has come across as arrogant or self centred and recently with IRyS's debut seemed to be the peak.

As much as I can see where Kiara is coming from, imo she really needs to stop acting so entitled and desperate for attention.

First of all just because she attempted to be a real idol in Japan does not make her music automatically good, yeah the production values are there but its clear she only cares about the views. She should be grateful and happy so many thousands of people listen to it in the first place.

Subsequently, it worth keeping in mind she has literally a million subscribers and a ton of members who give her loads of money, I think she needs to be more grateful to Cover for giving her this opportunity in the first place and not get upset her music videos do not get as many views as she wants.

Yeah, I understand the announcement of IRyS overshadowed her song and IRyS was much more supported / financially helped to produce it as well as put together the video when compared to Sparks.

BUT it really is not that deep Kiara... Cover were always going to try and do bigger projects / bring in new talent. It only makes sense that for their new EN member they would put in this much effort based on how successful their previous ones (inlcuding her!) are.

For the fans it would have been boring and underwhelming just to watch a standard debut for the next EN member, this is a big deal event for Hololive it was the common sense thing to do. So instead of Kiara acting so self entitled she should be more supportive and realise she is not a music professional or sign up to be specifically a Vsinger and be more happy with the support she has received so far.

sorry for the shite rrat post, I promise to not post another one again and I will take my schizo meds

>> No.6498319

>>6498063
It has nothing to do with IRyS or her debut, or her MV, or her songs. Everything you say Kiara should do, she already does. If you really want to have a good grasp on the matter, you gotta do your reps.

>> No.6498361

>>6498319
Forgot to say: Its not about numbers either.

>> No.6498399

>>6496761
Then why was she complaining about lack of support anon? Especially for her music

>> No.6498502

>>6498361
Then what was it about anon?

>> No.6498585

Kiara initiated a discord voice chat with Irys (and Gura) after the twitter shutdown incident to cheer her up.

Very obviously bad blood the way Kiara encouraged her kouhai after Irys being twitterjailed

>> No.6498847

>>6498319
It's autistic to demand support for your personal endeavors in your own channel. The only thing she can hope for is to be included in company projects and that is more on HoloEN management not Cover as a whole since we know people like Roboco, Choco and Noel gets musical projects. Gen 1 got their own concert. Holostars got their own original song. It's still wrong. Nobody gets special treatment especially her. She has the money to support herself. People like Aki should be the ones that should demand to be bolstered more because they get pennies in views whenever they make any effort musically.

>> No.6498910

>>6465182
I have a feeling you haven't had an actual conversation with another human being in person for years.

>> No.6498937

>>6465182
No. She just wants special treatment when she drops music.

>> No.6498998

>>6491354
>Your opinion is irrelevant on this board
>coming from an egg

>> No.6499048

>>6465182
Obviously she dislikes her. Kusotori has an obsession with being relevant and IRyS does her niche of knowing jap better. I can't wait for her to pass kusotori in subs so she will an hero.

>> No.6499071

>>6498502
Not him, but the tl;dr is Kiara is frustrated with management

>> No.6499112

>>6499071
Well holoEN management do be dumdum sometimes.

>> No.6499313

Lemmie spell it out for you you retarded fags. She's not angry at Irys, she's mad at the company. She joined Hololive to be an idol and had some hopes that they would help her with her goal to make more idol music. Cover obviously has other goals than she does, so they conflicted in this case. Here's a nice timeline for you.
>Kiara's birthday coming up.
>Worked with multiple people to create a new song to release around her birthday.
>Cover pushes her to put it out on her birthday and works with streaming companies to set up that date.
>Kiara says ok.
>Doing birthday stream, has to cram everything into sections for timing purposes.
>Doesn't get as much time as she wants with her call-ins.
>Releases Sparks after stream.
>Planned to work with EN gen to do collab.
>Knew it would be shit for the youtube algorithm based on discussions with genmates and fans.
>Had to because Cover wanted it.
>Cover suddenly drops the "8 HOURS REMAIN!" stream.
>EN gen knows who it is but didn't know about the stream.
>People start talking about "8 HOURS REMAIN" instead of new song/birthday.
>EN collab happens, people talking and asking questions about "8 HOURS REMAIN!"
>EN gen feels bad for Kiara, so they don't talk much about it during collab but joke and push "STREAM SPARKS" meme.
>Timer runs out, reveal.
>People start telling Kiara when the numbers slow that she was dumb for putting Sparks out in-between the two streams.
>She can't say she was forced to, so she has to get told she's dumb about the algorithm.
>Vents the entirety of the situation here and there, giving everyone a more clear picture of the full situation.
>You are here.
She got burned real bad by Cover on multiple fronts and got mad. She has no hatred of her new EN possible collab partner and probably looks forward to being able to collab with her when the restrictions get lifted.

>> No.6499347

>>6498399
Read the second statement in my post, then delete your post in shame.

>> No.6499598

>>6498063
Not a kfp but I truly hope this will be a wake up call for Kiara, I don't think she knows the way around this industry, and having this kind of delusion of how a company needs to everyone equally is very dangerous and honestly just stupid.

>> No.6499702

why are chumbuds falsefalggin over kiara, when obviously the Irys target here is gura

>> No.6499724

>>6499313
This sounds like a miscommunication more than anything between HoloEN management rather than Cover as a whole. HoloJP has a whole PRtimes web thing to promote their talents and constantly promote their stuff. A-chan curates them and the official holo retweets it. Even the hologirls themselves give way for special events and releases. That's why Suisei's release was successful. HoloEN should hire someone like an A-chan to highlight people. Maybe Enma should create her own Twitter and 2D and start shilling EN talents on the official EN channel. Holostars have a dude themselves.

>> No.6499829

>>6499724
Only thing I can say to that is that she specifically stated that she loves her manager and that she does everything she can for Kiara. Could Jenma have lied? Maybe, but we can't assume that and only have what we're given to go on.

>> No.6500068

>>6499829
I mean, I'm assuming Irys has a different manager. Maybe she has the same manager as Mori. I also think that whoever manages scheduling is the person to blame here. They weren't being transparent as to why she needed to be pressured to release her song in that manner. Maybe Jenma didn't know. Maybe they were trying to be tight lip because they were afraid the talents might accidentally spill stuff. It is still weird to have it tagged as "not getting support" What is done is done. Whining ain't going to fix stuff. I honestly think she should have done this karaoke 1 day after the release of her song to keep people hyped.

>> No.6500187

>>6499598
So close to a proper sentence. One day anon, keep believing in yourself!

>> No.6500209

>>6483993
I agree with this take, Sparks is a good song but chimkin voice ruins it. I can only bop to the chorus but once the verses come in I already want to commit ceaselife.

Gura has no problem dropping into a less cartoonish character voice when she does particular songs, I don't see why Kiara can't do that too.

I don't think Ina can sing, though. Her song is probably going to be lukewarm unless the production is super super catchy. If im wrong then hell yeah, that'd be a good surprise.

>> No.6500258

>>6500068
>Managing schedules.
It seems like most things are taken care of by the Holos themselves given that we know the EN have a nice google calendar with all 5 of them in it set up to help work around streaming over eachother or messing up really big things like this. In terms of the reveal video not being disclosed to them, it wasn't. All but confirmed by Gura and Kiara chatting about it in the OP. It's probably why they (the rest of EN) felt so bad about it and are still mentioning (Sparks) a week later in their own streams and memeing it. So in the end, her ire was focus on the stupidity of Cover.

>> No.6500470

>>6500258
It also hurts her case that Sparks was not a great song. It's okay but not viral worthy. It's the same level as Korone's and Pekora's original songs. Okayu's Mogu Mogu was the shit.

>> No.6500599

>>6500470
Not trying to argue the validity of the song itself, just moreso that it did get the screwjob which 100% hurt its visibility. Obviously we can't measure the effect because no one has access to another timeline, but it at best was negligible and at worst took the wind out of the sails of everyone.

>> No.6500741

>>6500599
Alright but I still think she should have scheduled the karaoke much earlier. Maybe even before the whole gura collab. Sing it JP primetime.

>> No.6500926

>>6499724
Seems to me like the EN branch just shift their attention fully to IRyS since this is basically their first big project. I dont think kiara ever mention cove, it was just the usual fans putting everything under Cover when each branch has different management. She was totally lash out at the ENbranch management.
>>6500068
>>6499829
IRyS is totally has a whole different team that form specially just to manage her. It took lots more resource for a singer after all. But yeah i kinda wonder what's Jenma doing for all this miscommunication to happened

>> No.6500985

who wouldn't be pissed off after dropping a new song only to have all of the air sucked out of the room by a new vsinger announcement?

especially when they pay for their own original releases, music shit is not cheap

>> No.6501103

It seems like Kiara should have gone for Vsinger. I know she didn't have a choice cause of the timing but I think she'd be happier. She can still stream games PLUS get COVER to actually support her musically.

>> No.6501185

>>6501103
I think you have to be somewhat good at singing to be considered for the Vsinger role, anon....
This is Kiara we're talking about

>> No.6501205

>>6465182
take your meds, zhang.

>> No.6501213

>>6501103
Not gonna lie, I don't think Cover would have hired her there. She has some level of experience, but it's surface level at best and is in a really niche genre so she woulda failed that audition for sure.

>> No.6501215

>>6501103
Nah she should have joined gen 5 or holoJP if she was serious about being an idol cause according to subaru, holoEN was supposed to focus more on being a streamer and less idol stuff.

>> No.6502212

>>6501215
But Subaru lies so her words can't be trusted,

>> No.6503990

>>6502212
We've reached peak irony.

>> No.6505148
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>>6503990
Not sure if serious but just in case you are EOP, Subaru gets carried away with how she presents info in zatsudans, and got in trouble for embellishing too much, enough that Okayu called her out a couple months ago.

>> No.6505481

>>6481323
only if you're weak of mind.

>> No.6505549

>>6505148
This is a meta joke ESL-chan.

>> No.6506144

>>6505549
Of course it is, retard.

>> No.6506472

>>6506144
still not sure if you got it

>> No.6506908

>>6499598
she is an actual idol, anon. i think she knows much more about this industry than you lmfao

>> No.6506977

>>6498847
People on this board seem to forget that they are supposed to be idols. what's the point of being in an idol company if you're not gonna support an idol's songs???

>> No.6507028
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Unfortunately Kiara, in the real world just because you work hard doesn't mean you will be rewarded. It sucks and it's how most of us live, dreams dead and buried.
Maybe you can't cut it as a singer. Big deal. You got so much else going for you so focus on that instead. It sucks but that's the way it is.

>> No.6509672

>>6506977
None of the EN are being marketed as Idols. None. Nor are all HoloJP. Only very few latch on to the branding and many just use it as a joke. The only reason why you only have less than half of the girls on Bloom is because Cover made it optional to actually participate in these so called idol activities. Only Pekora, Aqua, Subaru and Nene are doing anything remotely related to idol activities. You can't even tag Azki or Suisei as Idols at this point. If Kiara wants to push hard with this whole Idol thing then it's up to her. Even Mori don't legitimately say she's an idol. She just does the work and is well rewarded. If for some reason her single got fucked by timing, she sure as hell didn't do much by setting up a karaoke a week late. She could have set up this stream to hype it up again right after taking a 2 day break. Gura for one got her numbers skyrocket for her single after setting up a stream to talk about it. Mori did the same. She was more clever because she setup a mini concert during her whole 2d costume reveal which gave her min 50k-60k listening to her belt out some of the tracks on her EP.

>> No.6510627

>>6509672
there's a return key friend.

>> No.6511606

>>6465323
yup because she's the most to lose at the bottom of the list. even though Ina is last second, the viewer retention & live viewers are triple to kiara's average. Ina already has a dedicated fanbase, kiara doesnt because she's doing "leaks" and upping the circus acts just to keep up with Ina.

I dont think she recovered ever since Ina beat her to 1M

>> No.6511679

>>6469883
that explains her fucking SEETHE now

>> No.6511728

>>6506908
A failed one. Not a real idol, more of a cosplay slut.

>> No.6511756

Why is there always some schizo here trying to paint Kiara in a bad light using made up schizo interpretations of normal behaviour by Kiara? Why so obsessed? This is China level schizo obsession.

>> No.6511818
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>220 replies
rent free

>> No.6512093

>>6511756
Kiara does a well enough job painting herself in a bad light.

>> No.6512177

Lets wish Kiara well from Taiwan

>> No.6512197

>>6465182
wtf I love Kiara now?

>> No.6512241

>>6511756
imagine owning a huge empty space and someone lives there without paying rent. he has every right to be mad.

>> No.6512302

>>6470548
I think she'll get it since she has to do more promotions compared to base EN

>> No.6512332

Kiara is the DSP of hololive

>> No.6512342

>>6498063
>Thank you for your replies, it has helped me see things from a different perspective and now have a better understanding of the situation.
>Honestly believe it or not I do not hate Kiara or truly dislike her and this is the first time I have ever posted a thread on this board.
this is not me, I am the OP
who the fuck are you trying to talk from my side? what the fuck?

>> No.6512373

>>6512342
Thats KFP for you, mentally ill

>> No.6512586

>>6512373
holy shit. how many times did kfp false flag as anti and "recovered" into a kiara supporter?

so those threads and screencaps might as well me kfp overtaking antis with "I am this guy, I have learnt my lesson now and everyone clapped"

what the fuck is wrong with this fanbase? pretending to be OP LMAO

>> No.6512620

>>6512586
kfp is as mentally ill as the bird herself.

>> No.6512675

>>6470336
>I never expected this support from Ame
just how much of a low opinion does she have of her gen mates that she thinks they dont support her enough?

>> No.6512745

>>6465182
OP here. I've undergone therapy to cure my homosexuality and I love Kiara now

>> No.6512747

>>6512332
>literally a phoenix
I believe it

>> No.6512938

>>6465218
>WORDSWORDSWORDS
>do you think I am completely wrong
Yes.
>and reading too much into this?
Yes, but not as much as I've read too much of THIS

>> No.6513129

>>6486624
thats it. she thought she would be the only one with holotalk now there's someone who's not only better at JP than her but has the charisma similar to ame.

>> No.6513183

>>6468563
Assuming its true what would the chimken gain from this?

>> No.6513190

>>6486707
>pekora and marine did around the same time a while back
they were never passive aggressive like kiara is. rewatch pekora's vid she says it straight forward, "I wanted to do something with you guys, it got shutdown when other member's got accepted which is what hurt me but I will come up with other ideas in the future"
there wasnt this pussyfooting around like kiara's doing

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>>6465182
They hated OP because he told the truth. Kiara accidentally left her subscriptions public and take a look at this,

>> No.6513275

>>6488575
>Staying completely neutral here, I have to say Kiara does not have any kind of grudge
hahahahah

>> No.6513476

>>6490420
didnt kiara and holoEN get more support compared to sora and especially gen1?
were sora crying about it being unfair when holoEN destroyed the vtuber scene OR were they genuinely thankful and were professional to have a welcoming environment instead of seething about them not getting enough support initially?

its the same thing gen0 or gen1 went through with holoEN that kiara is going through with irys. why is she so mad that the newcomer is getting support?

also her being a lefty she surely believes in privilege right? now dont you think she was privileged before and guilty of what she's accusing irys or cover of?

>> No.6513678

>>6513476
Sora never had a massive release planned for her birthday only for it to be completly overshadowed by something Cover did without telling her.

Kiara isn't in the wrong here, Cover massively fucked up.

>> No.6513800

>>6512745
kek this thread is hilarous. hope someone screecaps the kfp pretending to be OP in this thread and OP calling him out

>> No.6513818

>>6513261
You realize that Mori and Gura have the exact same setup, right?

>> No.6513892

>>6513678
>Sora never had a massive release planned for her birthday
sora didnt have anything when she started you retard, that's the point
did she cry after EN got publicity by cover and cover posting about EN everywhere and EN getting famous?
NO she didnt. she was grateful and understood company is growing and reach improving. in turn their support for future talents also improving with upcoming gens. EN2 will have even more support than irys, will irys cry about it or do you want me to answer that for you?

>> No.6514944

>>6507028
>Unfortunately Kiara, in the real world
lel

>> No.6515522

>>6513190
Oh now you are gonna try to shift your debunked "kiara seething at a IRyS" to kiara being passive aggressive at cover? What was the pussyfooting retard? Kiara clearly says she wanted to do something more an with work with Kira on something but was stopped by management from doing so, there is also the fact was given a limited time for her stream which caused her to limit the call in time segment in turn. It was a mess by no fault of her own, and it could have been solved if cover just stopped being retarded and communicated things properly.
And yeah you should also go rewatch pekora, but also her members stream where she explained her frustrations in more detail to the point she even brought up not accepting super chats anymore since she didn't knew what management was doing with the money if she could no even get help to do something for her fans, the ones providing said money. The rest was just PR and damage control after the fact.
So stfu and stop being a retarded drama peddling nigger

>> No.6515604

>>6515522
>Oh now you are gonna try to shift
there is no shifting. pekora didnt pussyfoot around. marine didnt. they said why they're mad and cried about it. moved on.
kiara is playing subversive passive aggressive games and being coy without actually mentioning anything or being truthful about anything.
you faggot

>> No.6516064

>>6515604
Anon repeating the same shit with twice the buzzwords doesn't make it any more true, Kiara said as much as pekora and marine did, neither of them ever said what it was that was rejected only that something did shat on cover and moved on yes which kiara also did, she has not talked about it since and was pretty happy and cheerful on the superchat stream that just ended, it's only retards like you in this board bringing it back up and circlejerking about it to make it seem like a bigger deal than it actually is.
Is simple stop obsessing over Kiara she doesn't give a fuck about what think, it's not healthy for you, and you are not able to change anything no matter how hard you scream and moan about it in this place.

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>>6516064
>we say kiara will breakdown if Ina gets to 1M before her
>you say she wont
>we make Ina get to 1M
>kiara breaks down and calls you sympathy subs
she atleast cares more about our words than yours at this point

>> No.6516326

>>6465182
Meds, immediately.V4XJ5

>> No.6516420

>>6516160
Kiara doubting herself is not a breakdown but simply her default mode...

>> No.6516466

>>6516420
shut up, pity sub. let me talk to kiara while you throw money at her while she cries about us to you.

>> No.6516619

>>6516160
>That picture
>that post
>we
That's a pretty pathetic post anon, giving yourself credit for shit you are not really able to achieve, looks more like a self admission of your mental health issues, which are actually well known with varying names, you may be familiar with Napoleon complex, but there's also illusions of grandeur.
Look for help asap, since Kiara will keep streaming everyday your self esteem may take quite a few hits which I'm not sure you will be able to take without losing your dwindling sanity.

>> No.6516670

>>6516466
Anon she cried more about Yunas return then your little fanfictions..

>> No.6516711

>>6516466
what do you wanna tell her?

>> No.6517169

>>6506977
Because idol activities work in groups. If u wanna shill ONLY yourself then better fund it yourself.

>> No.6517279

>>6516064
I will wait until Ina's song reaches 1M before her og.

>> No.6517326

>>6513892
Ofc sora is happy. She literally own a good chunk of hololive

>> No.6519607

>>6517279
You will wait, nothing will change then you will wait again until something about else about her comes along , and you will keep on waiting...
You realize you people have been at this for ten months? and soon will be a year...
Al the while she grows fonder of her audience and so they do with her and the support never stops.
Will you be waiting next year too? then who knows how many more. Then what anon? what would you have achieved in the meantime?

>> No.6523355

>>6516711
you'll find out in superchat reading
:)

>> No.6523393

>>6519607
we already broke you and kiara when we made Ina hit 1M and got vindicated that we understand kiara better than you. I suggest you stop moving the goal posts.
we said she'll break for 1M, she did. nothing you cope will change that.

>> No.6523456

>>6523393
>>6519607
>>6517279
Cant wait for nijiEN2 to mog all the kfpfags from kiara

>> No.6524020

>>6512342
> this is not me I am the OP
> who the fuck are you trying to talk from my side?
> OP post capitalized his first letter, ended his sentences with periods.
> Claimed-to-be-OP post didn't do either of those things
Antichama your impersonation reps....

>> No.6524560

>>6523393
nigger the fuck is >we? and who the fuck is broken? Are you so delusional that you lost contact with reality? Meanwhile today kiara was extremely lovely and cute as she will keep being tomorrow, and just as i get another Kiara stream to watch you get another frustration to seethe about just like every single day for the last 10 months and the many more to come.
>>6523456
Ah yeah just like ID2, and nijien and so on and so on, keep waiting anon any day now I'm sure, just make sure you don't get a stroke when nothing happens, i want you to stay alive to see what kind of cope you come with as Kiara reach every single one of her goals.

>> No.6524620

>>6469883
>Source: my ass

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>>6524560
>frustration to seethe
what did I say about breaking you? you never recovered after this. we were right. you were wrong. stop moving the goal posts when we already got what we expected and wanted.

>> No.6525659

>>6466021

>IRyS doesn't belong
true
>should've never been added
false. She should be part of EN Gen 2 with potentially better chemistry and collab potential content-wise, instead of being released as an ALONE "VSinger" that no one really cares about. She ends up stuck in a weird limbo of "I'm not exactly with any Gen" and the interactions between members will show this, in due time. just wait. She'll kind of lose relevance unless EN Gen 2 cares to interact with her a lot.

>> No.6525742

>>6525659
Her SCs says otherwise. Soon she'll mog kiara out of the most sc EN

>> No.6525863

Her song seems to be doing about as well as her other releases. Just give it a month or 2 and it'll reach a million views.

>> No.6525864

>>6525742
yeah, she's having relevance NOW because she's a "lonely new member" and people pity her.
as I said, just wait. Gen 2 will overtake her in SC. no way in hell a branch with WAY more auditions doesn't bring more appealing talents that will leave her behind, unless, again, if Gen 2 want to play nice and interact with her so she stays afloat and remembered.

but then again being in hololive almost guarantees success, just in different degrees. maybe "staying afloat" isn't the right term.

>> No.6525978

As long as kiara doesn't direct her hatred for cover on their lack of support at IRyS then she's fine. Bitch move to direct her hatred at irys for something cover did and she has no control over.

>> No.6527615

>>6525085
Cute clips faggot but i don't need then when i have whole streams to watch cuter even, but you can keep wallowing over a comment made almost 2 months ago, how pathetic is that? Yet Kiara has never stopped, not before, not then and not now.
You had no bearing and no impact, you never will, but keep your larping, it never stops being funny to see your kind getting nowhere.
See you again on her 1 year anniversary, cuz sure as hell you will be there just to be mad about it.
And since you like clips so much her you go the only clip you will need for the rest of your life https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQH_kyeDGVs

>> No.6528040

>>6465182
Yes, you are reading too much into this. You are projecting your own fucked up and vile character/thought process onto Kiara. This is why nobody likes you and everyone you meet looks at you with disgust. Do us all a favor and clean up your act or choose the rope.

>> No.6532585

>>6527615
>wallowing
we arent. you are. ever since Ina hit 1M before kiara. that's the hilarious part.

>> No.6532836

>>6532585
Nigger what the are you even trying to say? you are not making any sense.

>> No.6533479

>>6465323
Believable. Anymore new ones will dilute her more and allow her to sink lower than just the other 4.

>> No.6533889

>>6532836
NTA but your seethe is pretty hilarious.
I remember the threads predicting Kiara would have a meltdown if Ina beat her to it. And lo and behold, she did.
Just proved that she cared more about being last place than about the 1M people that got her to where she is.

>> No.6533900

>>6482742
Literally subhuman languages
And I thought English was caveman tier

>> No.6534076

>>6475439
it would be good if she only blamed herself but from what I see she blames others(clover,irys) for her unsuccess which is just her disillusion of not apreciating what she has and gets but comparing herself with other's

>> No.6534137

>>6485009
imagine not wanting a cute kohai to call you senpai

>> No.6534145

>>6525864
Same case, worst even. IRyS and EN2 would mutilate Kiara even more and left her rot to irrelevancy

>> No.6534168

>>6534137
Exactly because it's cute anon.. she doesnt want to let irys get more point more than she already is

>> No.6534176

>>6475439
Why the fuck are you typing your own essay right after saying "I'm not reading this schizo essay"

>> No.6534832

>>6533889
Yeah sure...
Also "melt down" anon please do you you even know what that means? she barely spent a minute on the issue in a 12 hour stream, that was pretty great by the way, just to stream the next as if nothing ever happened. Yet 2 months later it has not left your mind, will you keep bringing it up in 2 more months, maybe a year? she will be way ahead of that at that time. And If not even her own insecurities can stop her what do you think your predictions can do? she is her only enemy that much is certain, you are just a drop of piss in the ocean.

>> No.6534917

>>6533900
English is the second best language though.

>> No.6536030

>>6465182
mentally handicapped schizo blogger

>> No.6536307

>>6534145
unironically true, I also think Kiara will somewhat lose relevance when EN Gen 2 comes out. We'll just have to see. The ones I see surviving are Mori and Ame, and maybe Gura with the numbers of casual watchers she has.

>> No.6536940

>>6481724
Prove?

>> No.6541531

>>6470336
>it's not the numbers
>it's not the reception
>it's not this
>it's not that
>I've been pretty clear on what it is so don't make things up

This is why I dropped Kiara months ago. This is the real GFE, and I just don't care about putting in time to hear it.

>> No.6541670

>>6465182
It shocks me that Kiara even have a fanbase
I've hear jews more honest than her

>> No.6541929

>>6476093
Do your reps, this was brought up at the start when she first started crying about numbers. She's seen it, it does nothing for her. She should think of others in Hololive that have a fraction of her numbers despite way more effort put into things, like 360 ASMR music videos and 3D dancing and a language created just for the song.
Rosetai only want Aki to succeed, she deserves it.

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>>it's not the numbers
>>it's not the reception
>>it's not this
>>it's not that
>>I've been pretty clear on what it is so don't make things up
>This is why I dropped Kiara months ago. This is the real GFE, and I just don't care about putting in time to hear it.

>> No.6542455

>>6541967
>kfpfaggots are basedjak poster
It all makes sense

>> No.6542597

>>6542455
But this is how eggs unironically look. How new?

>> No.6542660

>>6542597
Do you think I can keep up with kfpfaggots buzzword of the week?
I thought kfpschizos still called people seaniggs

>> No.6542694

>>6465182
>Honnestly, I feel sorry for IRyS she must feel quite alone right now and is getting little support from the other Hololive EN
Apparently thanks to Ina the collab ban will only last 2 weeks, so don't worry, she'll soon have someone to collab with

>> No.6542760

>>6524620
>>6475807
Not that anon, but here's what he's probably referring to https://streamable.com/eu65qz

>> No.6542770

>>6542660
Go back newfag. One of her biggest anti got face doxed (looks like an egg) hence why people call her antis eggs. Then people started to lurk in anti discords and found out that the vast majority of antis are seanigs and slavshits lapring as white people. Balkannogs as well.
tl;dr all of her antis look like subhumans and wojaks.

>> No.6542788

>>6542760
You realize this clip proves the exact opposite? did you grab the wrong one? kek

>> No.6542806

I don't know if it's just me or a real pattern, but I feel like every time Kiara is last in subs all collabs involving her are on her channel

>> No.6542833

>>6542770
>not participating in discordtranny threads make you an egg
Fuck off newfag, go back to /v/

>> No.6542858

>>6542833
>doesn't know orcschizo
>doesn't know eggs
>calls other people newfags
What's your eye color?

>> No.6542877

>>6542788
Like I said, I'm not that anon and not trying to prove his point, I'm just pointing out the clip he's probably talking about. I don't care much about Kiara, I just wish she would go see a shrink or something and work on herself a bit, it's annoying having these threads all the time because she has low self esteem and does nothing about it

>> No.6542900

>>6542770
>Then people started to lurk in anti discords and found out that the vast majority of antis are seanigs and slavshits lapring as white people
Isn't this the vast majority of Hololive "western" fanbase, at least for the seanig part?

>> No.6542904

>>6542806
She isn't last Ina is behind her since 1 or 2 weeks I believe. Also since she is the only one who organizes collabs in EN yea, they are on her channel. The other girls are kinda autistic when it comes to human interaction.

>> No.6542984

>>6542900
Yeah seanigs hate holoEN in general, especially ame and gura. But slavoids hate Kiara for some reason. One of the admins on le funny historian channel is a slavshit and a kiara anti, spamming hate against her all day. hence why this discord got it's third strike now and is gone soon kek

>> No.6543133

>>6542904
I've been seeing this pattern since a few months after their debut, I'm not talking about right now specifically. They've been tied for subs for months now.

>Also since she is the only one who organizes collabs in EN yea, they are on her channel.
That makes sense

>The other girls are kinda autistic when it comes to human interaction
I know Ina usually never initiates, but she always replies, which is better than nothing

>>6542984
That's surprising, I didn't expect slavs in particular to be antis against a specific person

>> No.6543876

>>6505148
Any example?

>> No.6544350

>>6542984
>Yeah seanigs hate holoEN in general, especially ame and gura
Genuine question, where exactly did you base this accusation? because ame has a dedicated ID translator and her ID clips can reach 1M views.

>> No.6546721 [DELETED] 

>>6465182
I bet she's jealous of her voice and that she's a hāfu

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