EN4 is near

[Anonymous No.]

seen a lot of indies with good numbers graduate recently, what do you expect to see in EN4?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
LilyPichu

[Anonymous No.]

gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
Hololive has already scooped up the vast majority of worthwhile EN indies. They would really be scraping the bottom of the barrel for an EN4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
will you seethe when it's another NijiEN wave?

[Anonymous No.]

NagamiMugi

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
The real TF2 Scout

[OP No.]

>>64445652
I would feel bad if they get less views than what they used to have as indies

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445652
Pom....

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445647
As long as the internet exists, there will always be hidden gems in it waiting to go viral no matter what year it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
>new EN wave this soon
lol, lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445821
Oh, they will, and we will laugh at them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445821
that would be hard to accomplish considering she's just another 2view. even kunai consistently gets 5x these numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445586
kek

[Anonymous No.]

ID4 bros? Shouldn't we be the next ones?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
EN4? EN3 was like a month ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>believing him will recruit EN4 in less than a year without deep diving infos and yabs just so he can have another full CGDCT gen without compromises
nah

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445562
I will drop Hololive entirely if she joins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
Please please Jap-sama, I'm begging you, no more Japanese wannabe vtubers who just want to use EN as a stepping stone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445738
an ENTIRE baseball

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
>quokkani
Boring. Tries too hard to sound like a knockoff veibae/nyanners and horrible singing, even with the amount of editing done to her voice

[Anonymous No.]

>>64446090
but enough about NijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445647
You retards said the same shit before Advent's debuts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64446223
Yeah and have you seen advent

[Anonymous No.]

>Did you say StarsEN4? I gotchu senpai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
If she is EN4 then she could be in pre debut right now and EN4 is late march/april at the earliest.

>>64446223
yeah, everyone says this then idol/phase/holo or some small corpo finds a hidden gem. never listen to this bottom of the barrel stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
for EN4 to be this recent most, if not all, of the gen would have been confirmed around the same time as advent, similar to tempus 2 so you should expect a similar gap to the one between tempus 1 & 2

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
EN4 won't fix EN's burnout/ overlap problems

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
>5PM PST
They could be the best streamer in the universe and I would still be disappointed if they were going to holoEN just to add to the overlap

[Anonymous No.]

>>64446009
Good

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
Doing fine in her small corpo and supposedly never graduating but I think she has the stuff to be a holo and seeing her alongside Fuwamoco (again) would be cute as hell

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
Most likely not the ones with good numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64446280
Retard

[Anonymous No.]

Hopefully nobody I know.
I wouldn't wish Hololive or Nijisanji on any of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
how new? theres at least 1 more homo gen coming before we get more girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>64446192
Fuck you man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64446003
He doesn't need a whole year to do that and it would be beneficial (read stupidly necessary) for the branch to debut a fourth gen around the time Advent starts their Japan arc for 3D debuts that will likely happen after HoloFes.

[Anonymous No.]

Pomu legitimately could have been in Hololive but she is being fucking retarded instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64446223
and everybody in advent is complete garbage
good job proving his point

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448432
NIJISEETHE

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448468
just because nijishitters are far worse doesn't make advent any better

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448502
Sure thing, nijifag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
Pippa, Pomu, Panko, Selen

[Anonymous No.]

>>64446090
>Japanese wannabe vtubers who just want to use EN as a stepping stone
I love watching my fwmc shitpost from august being repeated to this day. This is probably what it feels like watching your kids grow up

[Anonymous No.]

>2 views cannot make it in Hololive
Explain Fauna then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448502
>>64446280
>>64448432
So garbage that they're literally printing money. Not sure management will agree with you tards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448581
Who said that? Hololive has plenty of former 2views, getting a lot of viewership isn't a prereq for hiring. Myth, Council, Advent all recruited 2views.
Just because Hololive has had really big names join doesn't mean they haven't had small names too. It's more about being a good fit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64446223
anon.. Advent is garbage and no just streaming a lot can't distinguish you from tons of run-of-the-mill streamers you can find anywhere

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448659
>SC
rumao
tell me more about the worst source of revenue possible for both the vtuber and the corpo behind it
just look at the yearly growth of the other sources and the complete stagnation of memberships and scs

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448581
You should use Waston, Biboo and FWMC. Fauna's rm was unironically one of if not the most successful one in regards to streaming.

>>64448690
>more Advent seethe
Nijifag or beggar?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448678
The best hire they ever made had a 1 million sub channel beforehand

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448690
Advent is a big success, you just sound mad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448791
>big success
by what metric? fastest decline post debut?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448659
Superchats are only a precursor to how marketable a girl is for sponsorships. Gura doesn't stream anymore, but Cover can make wheelbarrows full of cash by tying her into marketing schemes. Probably why she doesn't stream anymore, but Cover is more than satisfied to ride on the momentum of her first two years for the foreseeable future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448790
Like I said, plenty of big names, doesn't mean you have to be one to join though.
It obviously does help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448830
that would be ILuna

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448791
all brand power, Connor was right

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448859
Oh, it's a vshojofag. I forgot about them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448830
You don't even know what a fast post-debut decline is if you think Advent qualifies. Modern-day niji gens are losing like 95% of their viewers by the end of week 1

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445647
the truly worthwile ones are already so rich they don't need hololive anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
I believe this rrat. Armpits2 is dropping in 5 months so they need to add more females before there's a mass outrage again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448432
Kill yourself, onegai~

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448830
No, that's Tempus

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448659
Their whole legacy so far is just them going "thanks god Gura/Fauna/Mumei doesn't stream"

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445562
Unironically never. She already has a semi-big fleshtuber career and Hololive would require her to drop all of it to join. Having a chuba livestream on the side showing her face everywhere would just invite too much trouble for Yagyoo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64449066
>Armpits2 is dropping in 5 months
After what the menhera seaweed said about changes for the branch in 2024 I'm starting to think that Cover is finally giving up. Granted, they're different branches, but if they're already clamping down on studio time for the JP dudes it's hard to believe that they'll keep spamming EN homos if they can't even promise 3D much less an event for them use it considering how there wasn't a 3rd Act this year and the next place we might hear about it will be next June on their branch anniversary and it's already starting to look very unlikely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64449477
Don't they even already have lore ready for them? It feels like Omega hired 16 guys at the same time in a full retard moment and got everything ready for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64449477
>they can't even promise 3D
you mean nijiEN 3D?
even salome have debut 3 months ago
https://youtu.be/Z4rLOlzpM6A?si=Kv6EYcG2CjSue8nN


LOL LMAO EVEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448753
Looks like it's the second highest source of revenue, nearly twice as much as the third highest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64446280
The only bad one is Shiori. Just make sure they're not fans of Scaramouche and we're gucci.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448790
I thought that account didn't hit 1mil until after everyone was publicly making the connection between the two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64449451
mean while. mori...

[Anonymous No.]

>>64449863
Mori pre HL was NOT LilyPichu tier don't kid yourself cuckbeat.

[Anonymous No.]

LMAO!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>64449744
People are interpreting the picture that the bara dude posted before the debut of armpiss as a confirmation of a fourth gen but even if Cover is insanely retarded regarding the homos it would be comical to debut another one when they're already struggling to go above the 1k mark faster than the previous gen did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64449780
It's... Superchats + memberships + Adsense

[Anonymous No.]

>>64450070
Well, it was incredibly retarded to even debut the third homo gen in first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64449451
>Having a chuba livestream on the side showing her face everywhere

[Anonymous No.]

>>64450023
Members of Illuna don't even have a 2nd outfit. Just the brown one, slutty nerd and Kyo height buff insecurity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
i like this quokka but she wouldn't fit in with the other holoENs

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
Hololive is where good vtubers go to die. That is, no streams and health hort while they quickly get used to doing nothing while exploiting the irl infinite money glitch.
If you actually want your oshi to continue making content, especially content they themselves own, you better pray that they stay indie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64449451
Lilypichu would demand way more money than is reasonable. Didn't she a ridiculous $millions YT contract just to come over and get less CCV than most Holos?
It's incompatible, she'd think she's worth far more than she'd actually bring to the company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64449451
>She already has a semi-big fleshtuber career and Hololive would require her to drop all of it to join
Ah yes, just like they forced Noel to stop, or Mel to stop, or Matsuri to stop, or Choco to stop, or Laplus to stop, or… well, you get the point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
Maybe VShojo finally got off their ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64450789
She doesn’t think she’s worth more, she KNOWS she’s worth more backed by however much youtube is already paying her for her contract

[Anonymous No.]

>>64451652
Sure, yeah.
She wasn't worth the YT contract, but she land it, so she'd be foolish to work for Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
>about to redebut
>says she's ending activities as "Quokkani"

Yeah a corpo got her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64446223
yeah they are all better than Myth

[Anonymous No.]

>>64449828
>The only bad one is Shiori
Tell that to /hlg/, /shig/, /baubau/, /ope/ and /#/. All this Shiori hate just seems like catalogfags who where gaslit by BVTM to believe something that was never gonna happen. I enjoy the seethe tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64451786
shes good at nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

EN4 isn't happening for at least another year. I would expect another two year gap like Advent at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448890
No you didn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>64452114
At least you didn't try to deny it talentfreedombro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64452034
Yep. Pretty easy to spot the BVTM retards too, they think themselves some kind of saviours, kinda like nice guys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64449961
you should read everything again, but hey, her face is out there and people know it so who cares.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64449451
She actually fell off pretty hard as a streamer but her videos do ok.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64452159
>they think themselves some kind of saviours
Kinda like how one of them tried to spark Shiori hate in /baubau/ during the SoTL watchalong, kek the fag doesn't watch the dogs and didn't know what kind of games they play.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64450070
>>64450152
Why, because they make them extra money?
Their audience doesn't overlap much with the girls and their numbers are better than what many small corpos can survive on. Why exactly wouldn't they want to debut more of them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
this is just a graduation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448790
It actually was at sub 950k when she was officially revealed as a hire

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445944
I can't believe she willingly signed up for this. Poor girl...

[Anonymous No.]

>>64451010
The fact Mori was a bunch of people's first thought made me laugh with the way JP is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64449780
Looks at the YoY. Super chats basically haven't moved in compaired and they been pushing the other 3 much more than SCing this year. Next yeac SC will probally be less than 15%, maybe less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64452096
We're not under the ometroon era anymore, latechama.

[Anonymous No.]

That cohost of FalseEyeD is probably going to end up in Hololive gen 4 i bet. That or Phase Connect.
I have my doubts on whether she'd accept anything from nijisanji given how much of a shitty company it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64453833
>I have my doubts on whether she'd accept anything from nijisanji
Anon, regardless of whatever, niji is still a corpo. They'd probably be like the infinite number of companies that think they can make a profit out of china.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64449451
>Having a chuba livestream on the side showing her face everywhere would just invite too much trouble for Yagyoo.

How new are you?

[Anonymous No.]

HOLO ACCELERATE soon EN will have as many members as Niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445562
Nepohire by Regis?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64453239
>$470
Ouch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64451010
You do not understand how big Lilypichu is. Those other shitters are just a drop in a bucket compared to her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445647
More like most small corpos have scooped up all the good ones, leaving mid tier indies for hololive. And both holoEN and nijiEN hiring teams are picky, solely looking at previous numbers. They just won't hire any 2-views, even if the 2-views are hidden gems

[Anonymous No.]

>>64455215
Isn't she part of OTV? You REALLY don't want those faggots even tangentially related to Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
BERYL WHERE ARE YOUUU

[Anonymous No.]

>>64455227
Niji would rather pick up a shitty near 200k sub chuuba than a good 2view, just look at >>64453239

[Anonymous No.]

>>64455268
No I'm just saying that the anon thinks Hololive could possibly convince her to dorp everything and become a wage slave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64453833
>That cohost of FalseEyeD is probably going to end up in Hololive gen 4
i doubt it, that would be a very stupid move

[Anonymous No.]

>>64453491
This is also why YouTube is willing to pay streamers millions for exclusivity deals while ignoring the vtuber corpos who get more views, because a large and growing portion of corpo vtuber revenue is from sources where they don't get a cut

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
If EN3 was the unicorn gen, EN4 will be the slut gen. Expect them to off-collab with Tempus during their first month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64453239
>Passive income
>Literally every talent says they can live comfortably
>VT faggots still believeing Mysta's asspull.
She's doing better than she did in her PL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64455215
Lilypichu averages like 6somethingk viewers. Her VOD views on YT are in the 30-40k range, about Roboco tier.
She lucked out extremely hard to secure a retarded YT contract during the free-money low interest era and the covid streamer boom, but in real terms she'd be a bottom tier holo level of popularity. Which is still quite big, no doubt. But she can't touch the top third of Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64455810
Is it really passive income if you have to stream 20+ hours a day for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>64453239
anyone not in Hololive or VShojo would probably kill to be in Niji. if you think those numbers are bad you've never seen the struggles of a typical indie.
this is kunai's PL btw, she streamed for like 6 years and still struggled to break 200 viewers most days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64456107
A week*

[Anonymous No.]

>>64456107
you literally don't, according to Millie she could go on a 4+ month hiatus and still pay her rent just off vod views and merch sales. she isn't even popular either. pomu and selen likely earn 200k/yr.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448659
When I see this kind of graph, I wonder if we could compare it to graphs of previous months to make sure it's new money rather than money from one vtuber getting redirected to another.
Is there a way to know?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448659
You want to try comparing that to myth, council and holox?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448774
Retard almost all of them were 2 view failures. The only ones that weren’t were Gura, Ina, and technically Mumei. I say technically because she was far from well off compared to those 2

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445647
What does it matter? These drones will declare anything hololive throws in front of them to be hidden gems and the greatest talents ever that were so great nobody watched them . It doesn't matter who so long as they have the blue dorito next to their name.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64456592
>spoiler
retardchama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>64455626
You’re retarded they still top the superchat charts. It’s because they don’t have to wheel them in as they aren’t leaving

[Anonymous No.]

>>64456583
You can literally find Fauna's rm's numbers because she streamed on Twitch. She wasn't a 2view and her ASMR streams consistently broke the 1k mark.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445647
Like any art form there's plenty of good indies always coming up. Sucks to be out of loop old man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64456592
NIJISEETHE

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
She is the reason we have a legitimate EN4 rrat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64446512
>he doesn't know
Remember the last time when the king was stirred from her slumber?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64456237
What Millie says is true but the latter is an exaggeration. I know channels that triple their views, way more sponsors and way more sales pushing 300-500k a year. They only have a couple hundred members across multiple platforms unlike the couple thousand all upper vtubers have but 200k is a huge amount for them. Unless you meant revenue and not profit then nvm

[Anonymous No.]

>>64456694
2 views and failures* was typing fast it’s why I brought up Ina who wasn’t a streamer, but I will once again call you a retard. 90% of asmrtist don’t monetize asmr streams because ads in the middle ruin it. They make all their money off donations or selling asmrs with certain girls of the singular variety getting most of it

[Anonymous No.]

>>64456453
My nigga you can literally read the graph, unless your point is so retardedly worded that I failed to understand what you meant.

[Anonymous No.]

Who are the good ones left? I thought en3 would be a wash but I like Biboo and fwmc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64456592
Pretty sure advent gave these people whiplash with the way how hard they did a 180. Also kudos to the psychopaths that guessed 3 out of 5 before we even knew of advents existence

[Anonymous No.]

>>64457219
You literally won't know because they keep away from the big circles of twitch. The only "good" one I can think of that is also well-known became a big 4view and is already famous enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64455227
Ah yeah such a shame small corpos scooped up all the good talents like Ky0resu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64448581
The vast, vast majority of vtubers are 2views. CCV is a shit way to judge numbers, so auditionkeks only really look at subs or follows. This is their biggest weakness, as any vtuber worth their salt and can make money won't be applying to hololive. That's how you get Shiori, who's sub numbers weren't really her own.

It's also important to note when under this context, it's clear that they do have a clear preference for big numbers as even biboo and FWMC were on the upper end of vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64457134
Yes you are too stupid to understand English. Compare them at the same point in their careers you fucking brain dead buffoon

[Anonymous No.]

>>64455227
>both holoEN and nijiEN hiring teams are picky, solely looking at previous numbers
>both
insectoid feelers typed this

[Anonymous No.]

>>64457219
See >>64456768
Nobody has anything bad to say about her, only about her fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64457219
The diamonds in the rough probably have like a few hundred fans, either not even here or unwilling (for very good reason) to shill their oshi in a bait thread on 4chan.
You'll find out who they are when they debut in EN4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64457387
Sounds like fucking cope, they're far ahead in their careers when compared to Advent so all of them should be mogging Advent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64456906
Pomu and Selen have minimum 5000 members each based on their emote slots. You require 5000 members to have 54 emote slots, and they both have 54 emotes.

>5000 members x $5/mo = $25,000/mo
>$25,000 x 35% after YT and Niji cuts = $8,750/mo
>$8,750/mo x 12 = $105,000/yr before taxes

That's JUST the low end of memberships without merch, YT ad revenue, sponsorships, streamlabs, superchats, or voice packs. At minimum they make around $4,000/month from superchats + streamlabs after YT/Niji cuts. $200k/yr is a pretty conservative estimate, it's likely they're closer to $400k after everything else. Nijis are doing very well for themselves no matter what /#/ thinks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64457362
Why are you lying?

[Anonymous No.]

>>64457446
>>64457320
Touché. I am not worried anymore after being pretty satisfied with the en3 picks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64457598
Everyone, Watson aside, had a decent number of subs. You don't really understand how many vtubers there are, because you're caught up with the big chuubas. For every big vtuber, there's at least 40 or 50 no presence chuubas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64457506
>Do not cite the deep magic with me witch I was there when it was written
Once you unlock and use an emote slot you keep it as long as your members remain open however comma if you fall below the value the emote can no longer be replaced or changed out. You’d have to get the members back or delete till you reach the actual amount you deserve. Real world example is Haachama

[Anonymous No.]

>>64457861
That’s not how that works that just makes you and the person below you both failures

[Anonymous No.]

>>64457861
Diamonds still shine. That vtuber awards category of hidden diamond or whatever is called should also include a time limit, because, as a chuuba, if you've been at it for 6 months and still a 2view, either you're doing something wrong and can change it, or you are what's wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64458097
That is a loophole yes but there's no indication they don't have 5000 emotes. Pomu swapped out her emotes fairly recently, which she wouldn't be able to do if she didn't meet the criteria.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64457506
It's nice seeing the top of NijiEN earn less than indies these days.

[Anonymous No.]

deport all numberpeople

[Anonymous No.]

>>64458179
Most of the time, the reason 2views can't break out, is because of autism or some other social handicap that prevents them from making friends or networking to gain a mindshare. It could also be debuff content that is entertaining, such as artsy streams. Not everyone games the numbers, and it might take ages to get lucky just through the algorithm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64458402
I wish we could, then we could have more FWMCs and Biboos

[Anonymous No.]

>BERYL???

[Anonymous No.]

>>64458424
>it might take ages to get lucky just through the algorithm
I mean, the chuuba I had in mind when I typed started as a 2view, with a "niche" that nobody would've ever thought would let her grow, and even was /here/. Nowadays, she's a mid-3view, and found gaming partners for her niche. That's what I mean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64458565
>graduated June, promising we would meet again
>an entire year of chuubas has come and gone, even her indie is hibernating
>even phase, whom she had a nepotism ticket into, wasn't the one
The only legitimate candidate in this entire thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64458097
Has anyone explicitly stated that's how it works? YouTube's documentation doesn't say either way, and I've seen people saying both that they're permanent and that they're not. It does seem a little hard to square someone having 5000 current members with 2500 current average viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64458602
How long did it take to get to low 3view? Did she have a corpo backing her at any point?

Diamonds in the rough are usually picked up by small corpos. Where hololive might overlook them for the big karats, small corpos know better than to be picky. That's how you get Lottie Shinju, Mono Monet, Cheri Lupina, Nana Asteria, etc etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>64458950
It's because most of the members are gifted memberships. Pomu consistently gets like 100 gifts minimum every single stream.
If someone wanted to argue about membership numbers they'd have a more valid point bringing up the fact it could be gifted using ARS. Membership numbers don't fluctuate unless the streamer takes a long time off like Gura. Otherwise any lost memberships get replaced by new gifted memberships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
I want lolis. That's all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64459310
You can't spell hololive without loli amirite

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
EN4 won't debut before 2025.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64457387
>Things have changed: no covid buff and vtubing fatigue
>Compare at the same point of their carreer
Retard. This can't ever work that shit is stupid af. The facts are: Shiori, Nerissa and FWMC were the top 3 EN members most superchated. With FuwaMoco doing especially well being 12th most superchated worldwide, in front of almost every of their senpai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64459350
And yet there is a severe lack of lolis in hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64445507
>near
lolno
At the earliest I can see EN4 dropping a year from now, but it's more likely they'll do it sometime in 2025, during the spring or the summer so they can celebrate the 5 year anniversary of the branch together as 20 members (or they hope so, but some talents might graduate by then).

[Anonymous No.]

>>64458950
Haachama when she turned off monetization said she fell below 5k members but her emotes didn’t decrease. Enna talked about using her newly gained emote slots and using them before they disappear with the gifted memberships. It’s more implied than outright said but still a safe assumption

[Anonymous No.]

>>64459188
I forgot gifted memberships exist.

>>64459562
Haachama seems to be the one case of someone actually confirming what really happens after the fact, so if she says they didn't decrease I guess that's how it works. I think everyone else is basing their info on googling it and seeing one guy on reddit who just made up an answer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>64459512
>I-It doesn’t c-count

[Anonymous No.]

>>64459783
Why didn't you respond to this anon?
>>64457471

[Anonymous No.]

>>64459783
Holy braindead nigger
>>64460055
Because he's a dishonest faggot

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>>64448659
I have to say, after youtube and the agency takes their cut, this is a substandard wage. I do wonder how much they get from memberships

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>>64460177
How? They are far ahead in their careers. They have years on Advent and should be mogging advent in every metric since they've had more time to get more fans and farm more gachikoi.

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>>64459413
This would actually be the correct course of action if they still insist on only serving the NA market. A big chunk of the holoEN viewership is DDs and you already see people complaining about choice paralysis because 6 people are streaming at the same time.

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>>64460647
I believe in the 1 million subs rrat. If fuwamoco doesn't reach 1 million subs by early 2024, there won't be a gen4 until either 1 year after a graduation (hopefully there isn't any) or 2025.

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>>64458707
Makes me wonder how long some of advent were waiting in the wings while they had to watch more shitters debut

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>>64460422
Anon, I'm not talking about THAT Anon, I was talking about the retard...
You are right in everything you just said in your post

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>>64455811
It's not about CCV. It's about Lilypichu the brand.

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>>64460971
This was just a thing some shitposter made up to complain about Council. holoEN didn't get a new gen in 2022 because EN's management was solely focused on holostars, and presumably that won't happen again because they replaced the EN project director afterwards (including erasing all trace of the old one's persona Stalin-style).

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>>64452034
>something that was never gonna happen
already happened: I don't like her voice

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>>64455811
>But she can't touch the top third of Hololive.
Kek. Even lmao.
You guys will lick cover's boots and praise new shiny toy like praised baobaos in Holo (shittalked them for being literally whos and 2 views before)

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>>64445562
No. I reject whore

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>>64456768
THIS TIME FOR SURE BERYL BROS

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>>64445647
They were scrapping the bottom of the barrel already with Myth.

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>>64455811
Don't compare that disgusting prostitute to my robot ever again

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Reminder that Hololive's skin ban is due to EN4 having a black girl with a white model.

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>>64468692
At least create believable rrats anon, all of them are Asian.

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>>64452096
Nope that was a massive mistake they are not repeating. And even if EN4 is already decided right now they will debut in like 6-8 months.

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>>64449828
Shiori is not even bad she's just different and has her niche.

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>>64450023
what's the thing on the right? i see the little robot from star wars

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B-Beryl....

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Cover needs to debut actual black vtubers.

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>>64455811
>Newfag that litters the numbers thread

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>>64468643
Both are prostitutes

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>>64465141
I liked the dogs before they were the dogs so that's wrong.

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>>64445507
it's actually Idols new gen. Enough of them sucked aviels cock for a spot.

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>>64471257
I believe you. So many real GGN fans made themselves known back then. (they were bottom 2view shitters until the end tho)

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>>64457121
None of that changes the fact she wasn't a failure. She had the highest CCV of any of the ENs prior to debut and had a solid amount of subs. She wasn't huge by any stretch but she wasn't a failure and she was certainly bigger than Bijou or Fuwamoco who were more often than not less than 100 viewers and no where near 100k subs

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>>64457861
Bijou and fuwamoco had jack shit for subs. Reminder that fuwamoco's goal initially was 10k subs and they didn't reach it by their deadline kek.
Even Nerissa, who has a decent amount of subs, is actually on the low end for holoEN
The metric matters but Hololive auditions clearly don't care about the numbers as much

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>>64445507
Niji future

Women are locked up, pumped full of drugs and chaddyfied to become men, all for the purpose of serving superior Chinese pussy.

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>>64456768
this time for sure anon!

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>>64461165
just checked FWMC waited less than a year.

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>>64445562
Only if Michael Reeves joins too.

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>>64445562
There's some people who make way too much money to waste their time in Hololive and she's one of them

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>>64455227
Half of Advent were 2views.

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EN4 is around april. or maybe they will announce them in holofes.
cover said they are accelerating overseas branch in financial report

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>>64445562
Unironically too much of a menhera hag and not in a good way

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>>64468692
is it the nude loli from twitch?

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>>64445738
I think I remember he said the only way he would get a vtuber model would be if he could be Mr. Slime, a gross slime monster that is extremely rude and belittling to his audience, or something like that. So that's a definite maybe.

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>>64446704
backstabbing bitch

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>>64460971
>1 million subs by early 2024
they should have by now in the range of 780-810k in order to be loable between jan-feb

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>>64457506
If Selen's earning that much, why does she still live with her parents? I know Canada's housing market is even worse than the US, but surely that's enough earnings to put down for a decent place to live?

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ITT seething /asp/ies holy shit

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>>64445652
How big of a shitstorm would it be if either Pomu or Selen got poached by Hololive?

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>>64485246
More like her parents live with her, she pays for the rent and her parents mooches off her

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>>64453239
>2 dollars a day
Nijibros... I....

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>>64453335
This is an EN board

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>>64456136
6? Wow, she's dedicated. I like her even more now

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>>64445507
>no more quokkani asmr streams

i'm ngmi bros

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>>64455227
Nigger both biboo and shiori were 2views before joining up, and fwmc didn't exactly have big numbers either

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>>64490020
fwmc had Prism numbers on a good day....

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>>64449749
has it only been 2 years on this fucking rollercoaster jesus christ

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I don't expect a 3 year wait again. I'm pretty confident there will be a new english gen next year. But I suspect summer or around July for that like always.

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>>64448281
so you want a new gen every time the previous gen gets their japan arc? that's basically a more controlled acceleration, and you'll rue the day when they drop QC
I think holo is at a dangerous position because you can't trust the people who audition to not be mentally ill and understand the responsibilities that come with it. plenty of people will probably audition with "unity" in mind

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>>64448432
oh i see you're just retarded

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>>64446009
This honestly

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>>64445647
>implying that there is a fixed number of labour pool in the vtuber talent market
Your econ reps, anon.

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>>64445562
>management looks up lilypichu
>affiliation: OTV
>looks up OTV
>multiple clips of her and her friends being racist to black and brown people

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>>64448659
Wait Ririka is popular? The fuck? I thought Regloss was failing?

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>>64491134
ririka puts in double the legwork of her genmates. even if her and ao are both around the same numbers, they are climbing, just not as fast as the others

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>>64491134
Even the worst performing hololive members are in the top 0.01%, this board's numberfags just have brain damage from staring at Pekora's viewer count every day

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>>64483742
Then EN4 won't debut until 2025, as simple as that

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>>64490348
I'm more curious whether they'll finally try someone with streaming hours outside NA primetime. It would be extremely retarded to quadruple down on PST when they're already cannibalizing each other's viewers, but then it was also extremely retarded to ignore the rest of the world for 4 years to begin with, and here we are

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>>64491134
She was pretty hard in unicorn pandering. May not last.

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>>64485246
Her parents are like BPD / Narcissists or something and she's too weak and pathetic to break free.

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>>64445507
Isn't Idol dropping a new gen soon?

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>>64446280
So true sister

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>>64445507
selen, pomu, yuko, penrose

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>>64445647
You said the same thing for en3

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>>64446704
creepy bitch can stay a smallfry, we don't want her

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>>64457362
Didn't you get your account back and started streaming again eleen? Still seetheing about her getting more successful while you are a eternal shitter? What a sad pathetic existance you are.

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>>64490680
>multiple clips of her and her friends being racist to black and brown people
wait wait wait... what? only one i know who she used to be close with who said nigger was nyanners and they parted ways years ago

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>>64452034
these creepy posts by shiori watchers where you try to pretend people don't have any reasons to dislike her or her content end up pushing passersby away
you are delusional

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>>64448375
you corposhills said literally the same thing about Henya, only to be proven wrong as usual.
>>64486059
I don't think her old friend would let her make that mistake.

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>>64490389
That's not acceleration at all, you fucking retard. At some point there won't be the need to debut new gens that frequently but even at 15 members HoloEN still feels really empty when Gura is frequently MIA, Watson, Ina and Kronii have spotty schedules, Fauna has been busier ever since she came back from Japan, Mumei still has to do deal college, IRyS is always one step away from getting out of commission due to sickness and the majority of the timeslots are still concentrated on PST prime time. I'm fucking tired of saying this but HoloJP had 32 members by their third anniversary.while it feels like a miracle that HoloEN had 15 under the same time period only because the retards at Cover decided that debuting 8 (and then 4 more less than a year later) homos was the best idea in the world and if you want to talk about the lack of QC then ALL of those faggots are the gold standard of it while the 5 Advent girls, who were absolutely only hired early this year when Jap took control of the branch from that retarded troon, are pretty much spotless so I do have faith that the current team in charge of HoloEN doesn't need near 2 years to get another quality gen. Also there's no unity left in the EN side when the interactions between both branches have been reduced to very few twitter replies and the last actual stream collab they had was back in fucking May so I doubt there will be many likely candidates for EN4 who are fans of homoEN. That is unless Fagoo forces Dev_IS garbage on HoloEN but at that point the entire company would be compromised.

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>>64448659
How did Fuwamoco manage to get so much superchats?

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>>64448659
What the fuck is Raden's appeal?

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>>64497297
eop...

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>>64481018
I don't think they'll ever announce any new foreign gen on HoloExpo/Fes when last year's they had a booth for Uproar on the show floor while ID3 was announced and debuted on the week following the event. The April bet isn't far-fetched tho since it's the start of the next fiscal year but I feel like a May or June debut is more likely, with the latter maintaining the pattern that we're seeing with HoloEN of each new gen debuting a month before the previous one's anniversary.

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>>64446280
nijinigger seethe, your new gens are all failing while new holo gens thrive

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>>64497782
You can sort of see why an ID gen wouldn't be teased at Fes - prior to ID3 the branch was a lot smaller and of little interest to the expo crowd in particular. Speaking of ID, ID4 still hasn't shown up.

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anyone worth hiring is already in a corpo by now or busy with other stuff

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>>64457362
>even biboo and FWMC were on the upper end of vtubers.
The twins had garbage CCV and barely any subs, and this is after they got around 5-6k sub when people found out who they were so they had even less when they applied to HoloEN. In Biboo's case it's also really easy to find out that her combined number of Twitch followers and Youtube subs is barely 20k, so stop pushing this idea that Cover are these massive numberfags who only hired people with big numbers.

>>64498018
It makes even less sense to announce a new homo gen on HoloExpo but they still did it.

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>>64489906
>>64456136
if you actually look at the graph she only really started in 2021, there are zero streams in 18, 19, 20

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>>64498533
The expo is for hololive and holostars, and obviously the vast majority of the in-person attendees will be Japanese fans, so it makes sense to tease/announce Japanese talents there.

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>>64498665
Even if that's true there's way more JP fans of EN and ID than there are homo fans as a whole.

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>>64498650
She was actually active on another account. She's really been streaming for like 10 years or something, she's old.

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>>64445507
She's in

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>>64456136
200 viewers indie is worth 10k niji viewers, how many nijis get those kind of numbers? half of them are struggling to get 200 these days anyway

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>>64490680
>>64495161 (me)
no answer is also an answer i guess
so i take it that it's just made up bullshit, correct?

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>>64445647
I know you're from reddit, or baiting, but between Anime Girl (EN) with a Cover logo and Anime Girl (EN) without one there is very little difference. In fact I would say Omega's scouting for the first two generations was sub-par.

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>>64446223
Lmao you caused a lot of asshurt from the guys whose oshits never stream.

>>64446370
>>64456739
It's hard to tell if it's bait or if this board is really saturated with redittor consoomer types who think the difference between good and bad is whether it's a company they like.

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The reason for some of these graduations are actually because Idol EN3 and Invaders gen.
Virgil and Beryl are confirmed to be in already

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>>64456583
the funny thing about mumei pl is that half her subs are 9 year olds who subbed to her to get 100 diamonds on gacha life

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>>64502407
That’s why I said technically

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>>64494588
Weren't they doing a spic gen?

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>>64509295
They're doing both. ES1 auditions were in August and EN3 went from August to September.

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>>64445562
kek

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>>64465141
You're lying anon. I browsing all ggn archive, everyone seem to praise them even before their debut. Only shiori get shittalked before her debut.

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>>64445562
Its more likely than you all think

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>>64450789
>>64451010
>>64451652
About that

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>>64445507
I hope eventually Biboo can nepohire Silvi into holo.

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>>64515553
She's the one who reacted to the debut, right? That was really cute and if she's as hardworking as Biboo it would be a great addition to HoloEN.

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>>64497297
raden is my wife

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>>64445507
holodrones think they're getting another gen so soon? lmfao

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>>64459310
unfortuantely you'll never get that from EN again

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>>64445647
>Hololive has already scooped up the vast majority of worthwhile EN indies
half of the holoEN girls are really not that great.
hell, the only "special" talents in advent are fuwamoco. biboo and shiori are really no different from literally any other 2view indie.

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>>64498533
>20k is "barely any subs"
You're a fucking delusional numberfag. The vast majority of vtubers fall under the 10k threshold.

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>>64525980
We can't all accelerate like you fucks over at Riku's yacht fundraiser corp anon

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>>64512783
Nerissa got shit talked about too, for good reason IMO

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>>64495124
Kek, if she had been successful, she wouldn't have needed to join hololive. But enjoy your slop, I'm sure the blue dorito makes everything taste better.

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>>64497297
Strange women

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>>64528340
Why? all I know is she knows Shiki

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>>64528466
>Eilene still seething
Love to see it

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>>64526129
Redditors have this weird tendency where they don't actually enjoy the hobbies they partake in, so they only watch Popular Thing. This is especially true here where people are always defending a thing which had giant hiatuses and went near off the air multiple times in 2022 for no reason other than the girls are lazy.

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>>64445825
Porn....

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>>64446009
don't worry, bro. Jap will not disappoint.
I will commit massive chargeback if he does

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>>64529178
I wish I was Eilene, then I'd have 100x the imagination Shiori does.

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>>64491134
That picture gets posted a lot. So not sure what the current revenue is now compared to before.

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>you dislike shiori?
>you must be eilene!
love to see there's still no arguments for why you should like shiori

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>>64529584
Stop self-masturbating Eilene, don't you have a failed channel to run after your failed re-debut?

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>>64495161
Her recent friend Scarra had some blow up making a racist joke on camera about another friend. There was that ons girl Magni collabed with who was racist to white people.
Besides that its just normal drama like rape, scamming sabotaging Holostars etc.
Also pretty sure most of the people asking for her to join are a raid trying for another go at pulling hololive into the OTV/OTK group.

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>>64529731
>love to see there's still no arguments for why you should like shiori
Ask /shig/ or /hlg/. No one in the catalog actually watches streams anon.

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>>64457506
that's the ceiling of membership, but what is the floor of membership if it were all in ARS?

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>>64530006
when ARS gets dollarized the turnaround on this will be hilarious

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>>64445507
>indies with good numbers
there's only one company that cares about previous life's numbers and it isn't hololive, nijisister

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>>64453239
That's a girl? I thought it was a homo...

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>>64529771
Honestly, instead of fighting windmills hating on the only girl more irrelevant than shiori you could give people reasons to like shiori instead

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>>64490680
Based and hired.

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>>64496092
Rich ojisans

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>>64469496
Bandage dispenser

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>>64531087
She's an old lady who also knows JP. she's pretty funny

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>>64515444
She also does voice work too doesn't she? She's voiced some gaacha characters. She would probably take long breaks doing other work and treat holo like a hobby

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>>64445507
there are no good indies in the EN scene, so if EN4 does happen it will be a bunch of nobodies who cover can try and mold.

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>>64490680
i will now watch OTV

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>>64529305
/hlgg/ has been a reddit colony since 2020 and even /hlg/ had too much reddit shit for a while before that, but no one wants to admit it.
/hlgg/ and this board as a whole lack the contrarianism this site is known for.

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>>64495273
>picrel
Today I learned +90% of humans are autistic.
People always get upset and argue when you're different in any way. They try to mock you and ostracize you.
I guess they're all autists.

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>>64532286
/vt/ at least is autistic.

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>>64529103
She had a bunch of once-off collabs with a bunch of small corpos. But no, it was her connection to funimation and a friendship with a nijimale.

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>>64445507
seems a bit soon for EN4