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>> No.63918087

All those views? Me.

>> No.63918231 [DELETED] 

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>> No.63918353

Surprising considering the dedicated audience she has..

>> No.63918401

Vshitjo is not an idol corp

>> No.63918411
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>Ironmouse fans when they realize that opening multiple tabs on mute to increase views doesn't work on YouTube

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>dedicated audience

>> No.63918563

So this is the power of viewbots

>> No.63918586


>> No.63918610

Numbercucks getting oneguy'd so hard they became Ironmouse spergs is one of /vt/'s funniest arcs

>> No.63918739

Pretend I'm incredibly stupid, what am I supposed to be seeing here?

>> No.63918763

Yeah doesn't feel so good now that the boot is on the other foot now does it vshocuck

>> No.63918766

Please understand. Her fans have her muted tab open to "support" her.

>> No.63918774

Why you so mad that Mouse gets all the recognition while HoloEN are no bodies outside the holo bubble. Don't be mad she mogs the rest of HoloEN each month.

>> No.63918807

Aia with her 400 viewers somehow has a more active chat than ironmouse with her 5k viewers

>> No.63918837

Remember bros, you asked for this

>> No.63918853
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Adding another one from Ex-NijiEN's #1 most wanted girl too for posterity in twitch chat head-to-head kek

>> No.63918858

Weren't vshojofags running across all platforms claiming her to be the face of EN vtubing?

>> No.63918898

What delusion do you think you're defending here?

>> No.63918914

Yeah, see >>63918774

>> No.63918947

The delusion that vshojofags are all peace loving folks who want to be left alone and don't deserve everything that's coming to them

>> No.63918948

oh no no no no

>> No.63918955

mouse's viewers are asleep. they're emulating their favorite streamer.

>> No.63919003

And you're basing this delusion on what.

>> No.63919005

Oh look how the other Henya thread showing she had more Viewers than HoloEN got deleted when IRyS started to mog her by herself. How much time before the vshojo janny nukes this one too?

>> No.63919147

On >>63918610
It's what vshocucks actually believe

>> No.63919177

>youtubekeks a year ago: I hate twitch chat. it's just spam. youtube is much better.
>youtubekeks now: I love spam and hate ironmouse her chat doesn't have enough spam for me

>> No.63919261

How is he wrong when this thread exists. And that there are dedicated Mouse antis who seethe in /#/ about her daily? You guys literally got mindbroken into hating a vtuber for no damn reason.

>> No.63919279

Both of these chats are on Twitch though?

>> No.63919294

>vshocucks: wah wah why does the board hate us so much
>also vshocucks: let me go pick a fight with holofags, surely nothing will happen from this
This is the grave you choose

>> No.63919324

Meant for >>63919261

>> No.63919330

>(You) a year ago: I’m a massive faggot
>(You) now: I’m an even bigger faggot

>> No.63919362

>picking fights
Oh yeah? Who's picking fights, anon?

>> No.63919389

The thing you're wrong about is thinking you can shit on holofags on the Holo board and think we'll just turn the other cheek

>> No.63919400

I love my irrelevant viet whore

>> No.63919453

Um... and who the fuck are you, anon?

>> No.63919460

chat is too slow for 5k cuncurrent viewers, and there are more examples,

>> No.63919499

IMschizo is extremely powerful for mindbreaking /#/ like he has. The funny thing is I've never once seen him post in /vsj+/

>> No.63919520

>leave alone the billion dollar corporation

>> No.63919524
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The fact that ironmouse's chat is dead because she's clearly getting botted hardcore doesn't change the fact that twitch chats of people who aren't being botted and actually have people chatting in them are cancer.

>> No.63919551

These posts are funny because they're just showing that some forms of content aren't good at generating chat activity. This one is a one-shot DND game she was participating in. There's zero chat interaction for several hours and it was being streamed across 4 channels at once that were all identical.
This one's from a Core Keeper collab. Which means that yes, there's zero chat interaction because Mouse's attention is focused on her collab partners (if this is recent I'm assuming it's the collab with Mata and Henya)

Now have a video of something entirely focused on chat back and forth and look at how it's moving. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpyfIAhvYd4

>> No.63919554

Who the fuck is that?

>> No.63919594

ironmouse's chat is dead because you cherrypicked examples that were collab streams with zero chat interaction

>> No.63919622

Anon, you're wasting your time with mindbroken /#/monkeys.

>> No.63919634

some dude have been shitting on the numbers thread every day for like 3 months now using mousey as bait

>> No.63919659

Vshojo lost a lot of audience to the indie/smaller corpo after the unity illusion was broken. It's always funny to me how Mouse proclaimed Nyan to be her sister and family at every single turn. However now that Nyan decided to move out of Vshojo, Mouse doesn't give two shits about her.

It's such a contrast to her unity days of old where she presented herself being a vtubing enthusiast be it indie or corpo, big or small, old or new. Nowadays it's all about her own agency, her clique of orbiters and Connor.

>> No.63919674

>Wah wah my shit is coming back on my head, how could this happen to me?

>> No.63919710

He's one guy in /#/ that aggressively compares Ironmouse to Holos, created a mixed Twitch/YouTube tally, and is suspected to be behind a number of botted YouTube streams in order to mess with the tallies.

>> No.63919717

Shh anon that's the point they're supposed to get mad and argue the point and then I never reply again. It's tried and true

>> No.63919720

Botted mouse cope

>> No.63919751
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All Twitch numbers are fake and gay.

>> No.63919761

Holos their chat move at breakneck speeds even during collabs where they ignore chat. Including during ttrpg streams. And unlike on twitch most messages are actually a sentences instead of meme emote spam.
Your posts are pure unadulterated COPE.

>> No.63919790

Figures. Some trolling retard trolls and the "logical" response is to hate the person he's trolling about instead of the faggot troll. /vt/ards in a nutshell.

>> No.63919814

Sorry that Twitch doesn't have your emote spam tiktok culture, they actually write out words and discuss the stream over there.

>> No.63919825

that's not true. her chat is always slower than Holos's even when she has more ccv, you can compare it yourself

>> No.63919882

>Holos their chat move at breakneck speeds even during collabs where they ignore chat
Why the fuck would they do that? How retarded are Holofans?

>> No.63919883

>reading comprehension

>> No.63919895

>that's not true.
if that was the case you would be posting normal streams and not collab stream chat recordings lol

>> No.63919909

>Nyan to be her sister
That's just marketing anon. A corpo talking about 'family' is just pr speak.

>> No.63919915

Even if it's a pre-record chat will usually at least talk amongst themselves. It just doesn't make sense that Mouse can have 5k viewers and barely one of two are chatting.

>> No.63920006

It makes perfect sense, anon. Why would people want to spam messages in the chat when nothing is going on? When something happens the chats are very active. That's normal.

>> No.63920043

It's so they can show off to all the VOD-watchers that they were there. This is especially so during premiers when they chant "I WAS HERE".

>> No.63920079

Nyan is a backstabbing cunt and deserves it. Mousey did nothing wrong.

>> No.63920130

That happens with Twitch, too, but not when nothing is going on. If people are right and Holofans are spamming stuff even when there's no interaction and nothing of note happening on stream, then that's kind of weird. Whom are they doing that for? Themselves?

>> No.63920256

holoprojection. here's your average holo stream watchers

>> No.63920258

Mouse is a corporate shill who turned her back on her "friends" for easy money. Everyone that left is mysteriously out of her circle and one of them flat out said she's a shitty friend. Not hard to figure out who the problem is.

>> No.63920299

>Examples include inordinate viewership spikes, large viewership numbers but low chat engagement, or weird comments in the chat that don’t make much sense.

>> No.63920322

Viewers truly reflect their oshi

>> No.63920373

>All those words just to say that you're coping
Probably ironmouse's viewers just need to start to actually engage with her stream, i guess?

>> No.63920409

Your links are dead, mate.

>> No.63920468

>Not knowing that youtube completely banish any embed viewers
Numberfag newfag.

>> No.63920473

You must be apart of the mousefags that harassed nyan and aethel for not shilling the subathon lol

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>> No.63920508

Lol losing to aia and people called her queen. Kek

>> No.63920548
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Embedmouse scared of youtube for exposing her embed shenanigans

>> No.63920553

> no arguement

>> No.63920577

nice website embedkeks

>> No.63920593

I'm looking forward to when drama fags eventually find out about her shady donation scheme. Turned out so well for that Completionist guy.

>> No.63920616

retard just went on circle now >>63920468

>> No.63920632

That's from twitch you retarded vshojocuck.

>> No.63920640

>another collab stream

>> No.63920642


>> No.63920686

Nyan did nothing wrong either retard. I don't understand why Mousefags can't let her just exist.

>> No.63920696

I don't understand this embed stuff. Are people saying Mouse's stream is embedded somewhere that spikes her views? Where would that even be?

>> No.63920709

#fags coping so hard at Mouse mogging their oshi's always puts a smile on my face. Getting desperate always taking L's to a smol gremolin on Twitch.

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>Mouse's 5k+ chat speed averaging the same as Sayu's low 3 digit chat speed, and both on twitch
>Start deflecting to youtube chat

>> No.63920731

lets be honest mouse barely has a fanbase that actively watch her streams.
she streams for 9 hrs most will just mute and let thestream runon the back for support but probably dont know when somethin happens on it.

>> No.63920748

How did that fag even get away with it for almost a decade?

>> No.63920763

false info. twitch got rid of embeds a while ago btw lol

>> No.63920796

Its funny because Fillain has actually managed to get 4k ccv and 5k ccv on youtube before. I bet she can get 6k since she has grown even more since then, meanwhile iron mouse can barely get 3k with a karaoke

>> No.63920799

Proof next bait thread?

>> No.63920817

Actually ironfextralife

>> No.63920840

>Nyan did nothing wrong

>> No.63920845

Even part of her fanbase calls her Connor;s waiting room like unironically.

>> No.63920849

Everyone know who he is retard but since you don't care about her rep, why would anyone do the same for her and inform other newfag.

>> No.63920852

no they didnt. thats just a lie. no wonder you wrote lol at the end, you dont even believe it yourself. twitch's numbers are all fake.

>> No.63920869

Because he had a sympathetic story, a lot of friends, and had a wholesome personality. Sound familiar?

>> No.63920877

i'll post if after you prove that hololive isn't botted to hell through schizos watching 10 streams at a time
whatever helps you sleep at night

>> No.63920878

>followers only chat
>not following
You are retarded.

>> No.63920893

>Twitch removing one of their avenue to manipulate the numbers
Nice b8 m8

>> No.63920901

She wasn't happy in Vshojo and left. Move on.

>> No.63920907

/#/monkey cope actually thinking indies on Twitch work like Fextralife

>> No.63920934

>schizos watching 10 streams at a time
youtube only counts tabbed in views retard.

>> No.63920946

Imagine losing out to a nijishitter 3view on active chat members. Yikes

>> No.63920982

proof next thread i assume

>> No.63921005
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>Youtube not counting any multiviews/embed viewers are pretty much well-documented as proven by divegrass numbers

>> No.63921015

>hating a vtuber for no damn reason
>for no damn reason

Let's see

>Collabs with scum like Connor all the time
>Is 100% ok with trashing an org like Niji in the comments of a new vshojo member and then acting all buddy buddy with members of that org later on (backstabber)
>Her yearly begathons are DSP tier pathetic (GIVE ME MONEY)

She sucks

>> No.63921022

Imagine HoloEN losing to Mouse every month oh wait you don't have to imagine at all holy kek

>> No.63921055

The stream would need to be embedded somewhere that gets a lot of views in order for the claims of embedded affecting her viewcount to hold any water. Fextralife did it by embedding their stream on every page of their big fucking network of wikis. Opera did it by putting it on their browser's start page. So if Ironmouse is doing it surely someone can actually point to where it's being embedded?

>> No.63921060

A lot of her big stream numbers are from twitch front page embed. But apart from that while twitch allows for emebeds on different websites, there's no proper evidence for her embedding her streams.

>> No.63921076


>> No.63921081

>they don't count embeds! they just don't!
>twitch does though, this was revealed to me in a dream

>> No.63921124

just embed it on some random nowhere website and then bot that website.

>> No.63921132

Like I said, no damn reason.

>> No.63921138

Go on then elaborate on the crime she allegedly committed.

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Its alright cucks i'm sure holoen will someday get nominated for one of these

>> No.63921153

>Something that already proven, not even by /#/ but by divegrass and restream
>Ironfextralife entire existence
Next cope *clap*

>> No.63921174

Front page is not an embed it's just a stream that automatically loads on the front page of Twitch itself. An embed would be on a completely different site. That, and literally nobody gets front paged EVERY stream.
If there is no proof of this it is the highest tier of cope imaginable. Literally "I can't explain why this is popular, so it has to be fake" shit

>> No.63921215

>it doesn't work on youtube, sample size: 1
>everyone on twitch does it. sample size: 1
this is what numberkeks actually believe

>> No.63921221

>highest tier of cope imaginable
just saying it is possible. how about you explain to me how her chat is dead?

>> No.63921253

Retarded newfag twitch is pretty public about embedding being allowed.

>> No.63921259

>Is 100% ok with trashing an org like Niji in the comments of a new vshojo member
This is how you know the ones seething about mouse are nijifags falseflagging as holofags.

>> No.63921268


>> No.63921273

Nothing is going on. That's literally it. Drop in when she's doing something with chat engagement and chat will respond.

>> No.63921290

youtube literally includes an embed link under every video

>> No.63921295

Losing to her what? Hours spent sleeping on stream? Lmao

>> No.63921303

now THAT is some grade A cope

>> No.63921310

>Youtube sample size: 1
Illiterate retard
>Twitchembed sample size: 1
Ironfextralife make it 2 well known sample size ironkek

>> No.63921364

Both sides can dislike her dumbass

>> No.63921376

Aia and Sayu's chat is followers only too and still faster than mouse

>> No.63921385

>meanwhile NijiEN 3views chats are actually speeding just fine even with standard 15-30 second slow mode
Just say that you're coping and get over with it anon

>> No.63921418

It is cope anon. Here's the thing. The easiest way people could prove that fextralife's numbers were faked was by looking at the number of users in their chat when they weren't even streaming. When you have a dead offline chat with 30 thousand people in it, that's obvious proof of embedding. You can look at Mouse's chat literally right now. There's probably less than a hundred, and some of those are people who left mid-stream so they still have it or had it in another tab or something. It's quite literally proof that it's NOT embeds lol.

>> No.63921426

>nobody gets front paged EVERY stream
Never claimed otherwise. My point was that her big event streams almost always make it to the front page. Probably due to vshojo having connections at twitch.

>> No.63921433

Anon in the number bro thread Mouse only had 2 days last month where she actually got higher numbers than HoloEN.

>> No.63921461

Well, see >>63921433

>> No.63921469


>> No.63921472

Do you even understand how the Fextralife embedding even works?

>> No.63921488

Holofags don't care anymore after nyanners and vei left, the only ones left seething about Vshojo are 100% nijifags since they took 2 of their livers who are constantly throwing shit at niji, but keep coping sister.

>> No.63921502

just turn off the embed when you end stream. durrr huurrrr durrrr i cant believe you are so fucking stupid.

>> No.63921506

Holy newfag lurk more before you speak.

>> No.63921517


That wasn't the point, retard.


>> No.63921543

Ignoring the patheticness of being a nyan gosling, what does that have to do with Mouse or Mousefags?

>> No.63921551

So you're coping, simple as.

>> No.63921569

Guys I have to tell you something. Not everyone chat speed is the same. Sometimes I watch Shroud with 30k viewers and his chat moves like a snail.

>> No.63921585

>Holofags don't care anymore after nyanners and vei left
I fucking wish, but we both know that isn't true.

>> No.63921591

fake viewers

>> No.63921603

>Holofags don't care anymore

>> No.63921607

Twitch's developers are some of the least component in any major social media app. If Twitch could have some stupid undocumented "feature," then it's likely there.

>> No.63921622

Retard embeds here refer to embedding the twitch stream in third party websites. Not a fucking link in the description of a YouTube video.

>> No.63921621

>cheated on mouse with mutual
>surprised mouse stopped talking to them

>> No.63921641

I literally don't care one way or the other, I just want to know why you faggots are sperging about this so much. What the hell do you care if someone is botting anyway? Whom do you think you're trying to own with this information?

>> No.63921642

Please sir. An ounce of proof. A single piece of evidence that isn't based in cope.

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Mouse vs Henya whose in the same company and on Twitch btw

>> No.63921667

Why blatant underage faggot allow on this board?

>> No.63921677

>they don't count embeds
>they literally encourage embeds
pick one idiot. it's the second btw.

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Nigger, Mouse's content is 2/3 bf streams.

>> No.63921694

As I said, keep coping sisters ;), just wait for selen and that ID girl to join them to give you the final blow

>> No.63921709

there is no proof retard. that's the point. we are all noticing something and embedding is the clear answer. is it ture? who knows? can you proove it isnt? no you fucking cant.

>> No.63921717

Oof this one is pretty rough

>> No.63921718

It's the funniest thing about this though. Ironmouse's chat speed actually reflect your usual streamer chat.
It's just make it clearer that her culture is closer to that of a common streamer than a chuba.

>> No.63921723

ironwhores cucks, our response?

>> No.63921726

i mean that is the pont people are not watching the stream. Twitch is less picky on how it filters it s ccv tha youtube so it is easy to shit on iron mouse since twitch chat engament isnt that great blame it on the stream or culture or whatever.
See how polls on youtube streams go against twitch ones too.

>> No.63921732

lmao does one one making these comparisons know what a collab is? Henya's reacting and Mouse is in a collab. Besides, if VShojo was doing this the thought they would only do it for Mouse and not all of VShojo is absurd.

>> No.63921735

>cheated on mouse with mutual
anon did you think mouse and nyan were dating?

>> No.63921756

Vshocucks crying again because no one likes them, huh? Can't say I'm surprised.

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>> No.63921772

>solo stream vs. collab stream again

>> No.63921785

>It's just make it clearer that her culture is closer to that of a common streamer than a chuba.
i think haivng viewers not wacthingthe stream is a terrible culture but that might be me only.

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>I literally don't care one way or the other, I just want to know why you faggots are sperging about this so much
>Whom do you think you're trying to own with this information?

>> No.63921834

I don't understand numbermonkeys. The fuck do you get out of this inane bullshit?

>> No.63921835

Henya's chat is always fast, only mouse's chat is suspiciously slow for some reason

>> No.63921857

Apparently not if every single comparison given has literally the exact same explanation. Collabs are bad for chat interaction. That's been true since the beginning of time since the streamer isn't paying attention to chat at all. And yet every single bit of "proof" of this is a collab, while stuff like the videos of her actually talking to chat and having it move fast are ignored.

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>> No.63921872

you guys act as if chat ever stops talking. i never see a dead chat no matter what is going on and i watch hours of streams every day

>> No.63921877

I mean it's pretty easy to explain why. One they don't want to spend that much money and two she's their lead chuuba. Also Henya has slow mode on.

>> No.63921885

Wtf is this collab cope? You're really telling me that chat goes faster when there's some random video on screen as opposed to having multiple streamers doing shit they can react to?

>> No.63921892

Mouse was the one who found Aethel in the trenches of Twitch and has promoted their relationship. They were part of multiple double date collabs with mouse-connor, including a lot of big eceleb collabs. Mouse only stopped interacting with the two after Nyan distanced herself from Vshojo.

>> No.63921891

I'm not saying it good or bad, it's just that how her chat behaves is definitely not how chuba chats behaves, which is funny in its own because she's supposedly a vtuber.

>> No.63921899

Piss off the number thread you get their numbers autism up your ass

>> No.63921967

mouse fanbase is more twitch kiddies than vtuber fans. hence why the fanbase or her community isnt that creative with art, games or fan projects like other normal chubas.

>> No.63921971

>Collabs are bad for chat interaction
this is pathetic level cope

>> No.63921974

I'm starting to not believe that. Literally nobody in here is starting shit with the /#/'s thread. This thread exists without provocation.

>> No.63921979

Yes. React content is extremely engaging that's why it's liked so much. You can look up any vid of Henya doing react and she talks to chat constantly during it. Collabs are not.
>don't want to spend that much money
Don't trip over the massive amount of cope you're dragging behind you anon

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>> No.63921993

IronWhore is the biggest two faced bitch in all of vtubing. I wouldn't trust a single word that comes out of her mouth since it probably came from Connor's dick if it was in her mouth to begin with.

>> No.63922009

>Literally nobody in here is starting shit with the /#/'s thread. This thread exists without provocation.
>He doesn't know

>> No.63922012

buffpup was the first large streamer that discovered aethel

>> No.63922026

this guy >>63918774

>> No.63922040

on twitch people talk to the streamer, so when the streamer isn't reading chat due to interacting with other streamers on stream people chat less. on youtube you just spam mindlessly for no reason so there is no difference between collabs and solo streams.

>> No.63922052

See >>63918774

>> No.63922060

>on twitch people talk to the streamer

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>Doesn't count
>Doesn't count
>Doesn't count
>Doesn't count
>Doesn't count
Keep crying, literally no one gives a shit about your whores.

>> No.63922102

>on twitch people talk to the streamer
>on youtube you just spam
this is terrible bait anon

>> No.63922107

>Homeboy got colonised
He's Welsh you're a bit late for that kek

>> No.63922121

So you're proving the point some fag made earlier about being oneguyed by a troll? You faggots are retarded.

>> No.63922122

So Twitch is just Omegle?

>> No.63922132

It's literally one guy who has never even posted her tits in /#/. Do you really believe he's an actual fan of Mouse?

>> No.63922147

you keep literally spamming proof otherwise lol read the thread

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>> No.63922191

Considering you guys are out here getting mightily offended that nobody believes ironmouse has 10k actual viewers, yes, yes I believe so

>> No.63922192

I stand corrected then. But Mouse still promoted him heavily and hired him for all the music gigs.

>> No.63922195

Wow! That's a lot of muted tabs!

>> No.63922196

my man emoticons only exsit on twitch for a reason. The culture is more to spam emoticons than talking.

>> No.63922211

holy grim

>> No.63922220

Don't forget
>Insanely lazy content
>Nasty, disgusting fans

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>Face of EN chuba have to resort to embed to stay relevant
ENkek....just switch to JPChads
even i'm getting second hand embarassement looking at mousey chat speed

>> No.63922231

>Be me
>Watch some pokemon twitch cup event on one of the hispanic streamers's channel
>It's the streamer + a coach talking the entire time and chat acknoledgement is forbidden so he won't react to chat
>The chat is still 10 times faster than Ironmouse

>> No.63922243

The 3 views i watch have 10x+ faster chats
Ironlung just bots her numbers, there is no way around it, on top of getting shilled everywhere, Henya perfectly shows how a naturally popular twitch streamer looks like

>> No.63922245

nigga just go to any multi-POV holo or Niji stream and look at their chats. Even go to fucking holostars chats. This notion that vtuber chat will go 10-20 chats/min is a completely alien notion outside of, apparently, Ironmouse, when even Aia can achieve more than that. And do note most of HoloEN/NijiEN chats are on subs mode, and usually has 15 secs interval per chat too.

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>> No.63922283

one guy? there's three including you two

>> No.63922306

You are coping so hard at the small rat mogging you and the rest of holoEN holy shit.
>All her numbers are fake, only my oshi has real numbers
holy cope

>> No.63922331

She's still more well known than anyone in hololive and wins streamer awards

>> No.63922338

Lets be honest mouse is bad at zatsu. Is a skill you need to develope becasue of the SC reading culture
Mouse will never have that like a lot of twitch chubas. Does that mean she has no fans watching? no. it just mean the fans are really low effort in how they support or interact with her too.

>> No.63922340

reminder that when holo does this they get more votes than they have viewers

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mfw this thread is faster than mousey chat speed

>> No.63922365

henya is actually good and talented, while ironmouse is just a talentless whore that suck and leech eceleb cocks 24/7

>> No.63922374

It's one guy in /#/ retard

>> No.63922376

>streamer award
lmao even

>> No.63922381

Holy retarded take.

>> No.63922386

Are we gonna start measuring vtubers' success by their average chat messages per second now?

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>> No.63922405

>Holy cope
Exactly, mouse's numbers are pure cope powered by delusion, just like her actual health condition

>> No.63922408

>Loli backstab
>Nux backstab
>Mouse backstab
Running behind tectone of all people is just beyond pathetic

>> No.63922409


>> No.63922431

and yet here you are, the three musketeers

>> No.63922438

only if their chat doesnt reflect their numbers

>> No.63922443

>mousecucks are totally peace loving and want to be left alone, it just that one guy
>also mousecucks

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>> No.63922457
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yes. holokeks would like you to know that this was the most popular stream of all time, just look at that speed.

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ironwhore, destroyed by /vt/ thread with 40+ posters

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>> No.63922489

One guy you say?

>> No.63922496

Ah yes replies to >>63918853 when he shows Twitch chat only by calling him a YouTubekek looks like the script is broken RUMAO

>> No.63922514

Her chat speed seems pretty normal here

>> No.63922520

One guy btw

>> No.63922534


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>> No.63922559

numberkeks, our response?

>> No.63922569

Wow it's having trouble loading on my machine

>> No.63922579

So is it botted every time or what?

>> No.63922584

I don't think much of them either but hololive should be able to win some if they were actually relevant.

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>> No.63922606

Based Mouse, bringing unity to the Niji and Holo tribes

>> No.63922608

ask ironmooooose

>> No.63922619

what's wrong with this one then >>63918461

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>> No.63922655

more believable considering there's 400k+ people in the stream so not even slow mode could stop it.
Meanwhile, Ironmouse's chats are asleep even with only 5% of that stream number...

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>> No.63922658

solo stream vs. collab with zero chat interaction

>> No.63922660

Dunno. Probably bad 2nd monitor content.

>> No.63922672

but it's true though

>> No.63922674

I clicked on a random spot and it's like slightly slower than Henya on Slow Mode.

>> No.63922700


>> No.63922714
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IronWhore is literally the DSP of vtubers complete with vile fans and begging for money in shameless ways.

>> No.63922725

Now where are the awards for JP who are supposed to be more popular than EN?

>> No.63922735

Chat speed changes when streamer does different things.

>> No.63922739

>Loli backstab
Agreed to an extent but it's ancient history and she was young
>Nux backstab
That fag deserved it all and so much more
>Mouse backstab
Never happened regardless of what the voices in your tell you
>Running behind tectone
Maybe pathetic but still not a crime

>> No.63922754

>Mouse backstab
again, what backstab?

>> No.63922763

>there's 400k+ people in the stream
polka isn't that popular...

>> No.63922773

i remember the seethe, gunrun looks like ready to run onto the stage grab that award, gura got it and she doesn't even seem to give a fuck about this garbage award

>> No.63922780

Mouse's chat speed are always slower than her number class, though

>> No.63922790

>ancient history
Never forgive, never forget

>> No.63922793

Never in my life has someone responded to me so quickly on this site, it even scared me.

>> No.63922796

Get me into the screenshot.

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You forgot to add how she's a huge sjw

>> No.63922812


>> No.63922816

truth is stranger than fiction

>> No.63922824

>Instantly shifts goals

>> No.63922825

What even is this image?

>> No.63922827

out of 5000 people, zero? really? she must be really boring

ah yes, blame the hardware

>> No.63922828

>Maybe pathetic but still not a crime
how is being friends with someone pathetic?
stop larping, you weren't there.

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>> No.63922850

>number class
what the actual fuck

>> No.63922854

the bestest singer of all time, why is no one watching her?

>> No.63922858

>Loli backstab

>> No.63922860


>> No.63922861

>Twitch doesn't have emote spam

>> No.63922864

My theory is that because she does 14 hour streams like this, half of the people watching her fall asleep without turning off the stream over the course of a day.

>> No.63922865

but what was her ccv at that moment?

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>> No.63922876

No I mean like, people move the stream to the 2nd monitor while doing something on the main screen.

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Damn, she got you all mindbroken

>> No.63922892

That's because they don't. Holos give so little a shit about "awards" they get nominated or even win them and it comes out later and they didn't even know about it. Ironmouse has to run around and beg twitter and shit to vote for her and then she still loses.

>> No.63922891

How the hell do you respond to me so quickly?

>> No.63922897

Answer the question. Holo JP numbers are botted.

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way less participants than her audience, by the way

>> No.63922922

Mousebros.... It's over....

>> No.63922926

>they actually write out words and discuss the stream over there.
They're actually sleeping

>> No.63922927

One guy btw

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>> No.63922948

>Blind AND stupid

>> No.63922950

what else am i gonna do with my time

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So whens hololive getting nominated at a mainstream award show? or ya know having 200k memberships active memberships at a time?

>> No.63922965

you know they're mad when they post a graph. when the post the same graph three times, they have reached astronomical levels of seethe.

>> No.63922972

isnt that nyan? how she doing nowdays?

>> No.63922974

You've made your bed now you have to lie in it

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It was around here I think

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>a thread on mongolian basket weaving forum
>faster than the "best" En chuuba chat room

>> No.63922993

i never watch a stream on the side. i miss everything. i need to give it my full attention. you're telling me all 5k people are in another tab?

>> No.63923001


>> No.63923002

watch a vtuber or porn

>> No.63923004

I should have worded myself better. Tectone is a pathetic excuse for a human being. I have nothing against Nyanners/Aethel and their choice of collab partners.

>> No.63923025

>200k memberships and yet none of them interact with the streamer

>> No.63923038

soft retired and becoming a tradwife

>> No.63923050

One guy btw

>> No.63923052
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Embedmouse, mrs. 2K

>> No.63923057

porn is degenerate and im about to watch an akirose vod after im done eating

>> No.63923063

see >>63922844

>> No.63923066

>wins streamys
>dosnt stream

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This thread in a nutshell.

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I'm the second guy, the one that posts tits

>> No.63923141

50 anons vs 10000 viewbots. This battle will go down in vtubing history!

>> No.63923145

fuck about her viewers not chating
how the fuck does she have so little art, porn, and fan creations compared to even low corpo chubas.

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All these chatters? They are all me. I am Mouse's entire chat. You figured it out holokeks

>> No.63923176

>200k "Active" memberships
>Chat is slower than Aia the NijiEN 3view on youtube
>Chat is slower than Sayu the banished ex NijiEN 3view on twitch

>> No.63923200

chatbots can't create fan arts dummy

>> No.63923202

People don't want to make sexy art of a cripple.

>> No.63923207

>Other collabs do just fine if it's not the whore
>>Ironmouse is the only one this happens to, so it's an Ironmouse problem
You vwhores are pathetic. You're so "popular" your own streamers literally cry on stream because no one likes them.

>> No.63923209

Mouse doesn't have dedicated fans.
Her 205k 5$ paid subscription she got in a month were all embeds

>> No.63923211

My flesh oshi on twitch has very fast chat spam and he doesn't even talk to chat that much.

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Sorry that the cripped streamer streams more than your oshi

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>> No.63923242

Nyanner's ex is living proof that the ''I can fix her'' thing should always be a meme, as soon as your partner starts getting menhera or decides to be a Vtuber you dip the fuck out.
I might laugh at the faggot but to think he spent so many years by her side and she left him after getting famous for a gymbro..... damn..... funny as hell but damn.

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>> No.63923272

Only retards use chat

>> No.63923291

Why would they even be watching if she's not interacting with them? Isn't that the whole point of Twitch? It doesn't add up.

>> No.63923315

That would be scarle, not mouse.

>> No.63923321

Werent they gifted? even i had one at some point

>> No.63923326

>57 ips
>337 replies
Holy shit you guys are so fucking mad.

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>> No.63923348

Holos have a backing of a international media conglomerate with hundred million$ revenue, hundreds of employees, and get shilled by paid posters and marketed everywhere.
VShojo is trying to catch up despite having a fraction of the money.

>> No.63923357

>Using nyan's image
>Defending ironmouse
Vshocucks finally reached this level, huh...

>> No.63923372

She also has many models to make art, and she also has the most generic design of all because of the said models.

>> No.63923375

which is why her chat in particular should be flying
captcha: KKK00

>> No.63923387

So this thread is just numberbrowns seething at ironmouse?

>> No.63923406

Wait till you see what happens when you point out that Shoto is more popular than Miko.

>> No.63923409

he broke up with her in like 2019, anon. right before she became rich kek

>> No.63923426

that doesnt exclude the rest of creative outlets for his fans to do.

>> No.63923431

as opposed to 5000 IPs and no replies?

>> No.63923433

She doesn't have an official lewd arttag
no really

>> No.63923439

It's because of that fag connor. Artists are too hesitant to touch the non connor nsfw art and the fag himself said he doesn't want to see any nsfw art. And the retarded shipping community he has cultivated goes into blind rage whenever his mandate isn't followed.

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>#1 936 hours / 8.61M
>#2 269 hours / 8.37M
Always made me chuckle

>> No.63923444

>ur mad
the clear sign of victory

>> No.63923455

This is also cope. Do you watch a streamer that responds to every single message you send? If they don't then you're watching because you enjoy the content and for a chance at interaction. Same as everyone else.

>> No.63923461

>Fan animation contest
>She had to beg

>> No.63923465

She's both the most popular EN vtuber and also has a chat that won't even speak to her, keep up anon.

>> No.63923471

So compare it to an IM collab and an Aia collab, should be more similar?

>> No.63923473

Yes, all by bots bought by ironmouse of course

>> No.63923483

Maybe Pekora shouldn't be such a lazy bitch.

>> No.63923490

>8.61M watch hours of embedded streams

>> No.63923492

neither do a lot of chubas and still get a shitton of porn.

>> No.63923504

>holding a contest is begging

>> No.63923515


>> No.63923526

Ok anon, don't go full retard now.

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Holy shit, do you even realize how bad that makes her look?

>> No.63923549

You guys are pathetic, stop acting like you haven't lost the argument.

>> No.63923555

Baj detected.

>> No.63923567

you gave up

>> No.63923585

What even is this award? Nobody has ever heard of this.

>> No.63923584

icompare to what holos get and that is with her being the biggest en vtuber allegaedly.

>> No.63923588

>Vshocucks seething at /#/fags

>> No.63923591

Yeah really makes Pekora look like a lazy cunt. Tell that whore to stream more.

>> No.63923599

>Hours Watched is a stat heavily influenced by how much you stream (no shit)
>IronWhore literally leaves her stream on 24/7 while she sleeps
Yeah, this is not a serious statistic

>> No.63923602

Yeah, but most aren't actually the vtuber.

>> No.63923611

Miko only gets like 4k viewers on twitch because Holodex doesn't embed her streams there. The numberpeople ignore this for some reason.

>> No.63923614

This is either falseflaggers or Seaniggers, I refuse to believe any Vshojo viewer is as retarded as to bring that graph and think that is an own.

>> No.63923615


>> No.63923616

Stop crying

>> No.63923621

If the streamer doesn't respond to every single one of my messages, I leave and find another streamer. Simple as that.

>> No.63923642


>> No.63923666

>She's both the most popular EN vtuber
Shamefully that's filian for some fucking reason.

>> No.63923686

it was one guy btw

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Man, I tried. There was at least an attempt.

>> No.63923697


>> No.63923702

Okay, then provide a evidence since people would have to easily find it when she gets 5k CCV, but you cannot since you are fucking coping that Ironmouse has a wellbehaved chat that does not spam when she is not interacting with them

>> No.63923719

Yeah it's quite alarming how little fan engagement she has. On the other hand you have HoloEN who get full animations, tons of fan art, fully featured freaking video games with tons of content. The difference in fan enthusiasm is insane.

>> No.63923720

>shipping community
Hilarious how they grew on shipping culture and then turned around and to pretend that they never encouraged any of it.

>> No.63923725

She is literally satan, didn't you know?

>> No.63923728

What did you try?

>> No.63923743

You severely overestimate the intelligence of any vshojo viewer. They're dumb as rocks, except Bijou's viewers aren't that stupid.

>> No.63923747

sure. let me boot up TOR

>> No.63923755

They enjoy watching numbers go up and down more than watching streams. Everyone who actually enjoys vtubers should strive to never become like them.

>> No.63923759

She's not owned in her entirety by a corporation

>> No.63923775

>They're dumb as rocks, except Bijou's viewers aren't that stupid.

>> No.63923796

>8.61m views, 939 hours
>8.37m views, 269 hours
Oof. So much for "the Queen of EN vtubers"

>> No.63923808

>Everyone who actually enjoys vtubers should strive to never become like them.
So none of IM viewers since they're asleep whenever she streams?

>> No.63923832

stop making up these stupid fantasies, anon.

>> No.63923843

Where is the next closest HoloEN? oh right so far down there they aren't even close kek

>> No.63923854

that has nothing to do with corpos getting far more art than her.

>> No.63923871

>They're dumb as rocks, except Bijou's viewers aren't that stupid.
Kek, nice pun anon.

>> No.63923877

hours "watched"

>> No.63923892

What did Tectone even do to you fags to deserve so much hate?? Not just here either it's everywhere but none of his controversies are even that bad.

>> No.63923904

I legit just made a sandwich and suddenly the thread is +200 posts. Do we have a Vshojo Defense Force now too?

>> No.63923927


>> No.63923928

Kiara does better than this lol

>> No.63923934

>Post was talking about getting fanarts, the easiest way to gauge fan engagements
>Suddenly talking about corporation
This nigga couldn't even read.

>> No.63923943


>> No.63923950

no, it was one guy

>> No.63923953

Remember when people watch vtubers for fun

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Cool story anon. btw here's a clip from Henya's stream that is literally still ongoing. She was in the middle of a collab at the time and you can see her chat move in real time.

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>> No.63923996

Did the fact they've had a janny on call for the past year+ not tip you off?

>> No.63924007

It's still happening, stop trying to invent fantasies.

>> No.63924010

I'm gonna put it another way
Artists see Mouse as less of a "character" than other corpo vtubers

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>> No.63924029

Fun? What's that?

>> No.63924057

It still happens, it's your own fault if you want to come here on this specific thread, you fucker.

>> No.63924066

and this prevent art and other fan creations becasue...?

>> No.63924069

quick name 10 niji ens

>> No.63924071

>Visibly still moving faster than the aids rat
Okay, thanks for helping? lol

>> No.63924074

No, it's because she has several models.

>> No.63924084

stop overexaggerating, retard. Just stop coming here if you want to see all rainbow.

>> No.63924123


>> No.63924128

how does that matters? it means more deisgns to draw

>> No.63924138

Oh I get it, he means that they would be lewding the ''real person'' instead of a character..... which is also retarded because jaiden animations has porn of her.... even one comic where she fucks dogs

>> No.63924147

Holy retard, that shit doesn't even have any correlation at all with her getting fanarts.
Let's be honest here the no.1 reason is because she has no clear brand image.
Bitch pretty much remodel her looks every month.

>> No.63924159

because many artists feel uncomfortable making porn of real people

>> No.63924167

this is sad. ive personally drawn fanart for vtubers i dont even watch because their design is cool.

>> No.63924196

Anon, she advertises herself as a sick bedridden girl who is dying soon and has nothing but her viewers in her life. She has more than enough shizos doing her bidding and spreading her gospel.

>> No.63924209

What part of an anime girl is a real person to you?

>> No.63924213

so she's not a vtuber, just a "real people who happened to be named Ironmouse and look like deviantart drawings"?

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This thread is four times faster than vsj+
Let that sink in for a moment

>> No.63924231

You don't understand the time or effort it takes to make a single drawing.

>> No.63924238

Wait they still think she's sick after revealing the ''miraculous surgery'' that will get rid of her disease?

>> No.63924242

Are you telling me the whore company known for being whores and for having fans that like the fact they're whores and who pretty much just say crude shit all day while their fans listen to them talk about cocks are antsy about lewding them? Because they're "real people"?

>> No.63924268

vshojo fans just suck at art it isnt that deep
im sure those people perefer to be here than talking about heny stream

>> No.63924271

All of vsj+ posters are here, defending the Queen.

>> No.63924309

See the thing is that Jaiden asked for not to be seen like that, which made it up as a challenge. The internet works in weird ways, there's still porn of her, just there's a lack of interest of it, just that. Probably her fanbase or whatever it is, she still gets art of her.

>> No.63924315

yeah, all one guy. kek

>> No.63924325

She doesn't need defending she mogs your shitty chuubas all by herself.

>> No.63924326

Bro ThiccwithaQ drew Froot eating cum out of Silver's asshole and even they were hesitant to draw Mouse.

>> No.63924356

I would say the placebo effect of lewding a Holo member who is ''pure'' (hence why Sora is the queen of iwara) is better than doing a whore who already has her legs spread enough to fit a semen whale.

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funny thread

>> No.63924364

I guess most of her fans are women.

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too blatant, anon

>> No.63924382

Explain Kson then? She's as much her character as Mouse is, if not more.

>> No.63924399

>who is dying soon
she never claimed to be dying

>> No.63924403

if she mogs them why dont i watch her? checkmate.

>> No.63924411

>She doesn't need defending
So why do you defend it?

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>/orc/, a thread dedicated to a dead homo has 27 IPs
>/vsj+/, a thread dedicated to an entire company of "popular" girls has 38

>> No.63924439

Because your cellular plan doesn't cover Twitch?

>> No.63924449

wdym, women are legit way into that shit. Just look at those luxiem gay artworks that for some reason often include rape.

>> No.63924459

you can hold a gun up to a bank teller but not say you're robbing the place, anon.

>> No.63924466

I would say that currently she is not a vtuber.

>> No.63924485

Vshojo is a flop and soulless and it died the moment half of the founding group left.

>Vshojo JP is a flop and Kson went from being an industry legend to a total laughing stock
>Poaching NijiEN members despite NijiEN being a tire fire
Baffling decisions all around

>> No.63924496

you're just making shit up

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>She doesn't need defending
>Defend her anyway

>> No.63924514

what? do phones need special plans to access twitch? im too old for cell phones and dont have one.

>> No.63924529

Wouldn't really be surprising. I mean Froot gets away with gobbling all the charity money so Vshojo has the experience to handle 'totally not a scam' situations.

>> No.63924535

its a SEA thing

>> No.63924552

you're just saying stuff simply for the sake of it now, anon

>> No.63924559

And yet she still gets lewds, so I don't think the artists are that hesitant just because they're a real person.

>> No.63924568

That's a group of men, women don't respect men.

>> No.63924588

>for some reason

>> No.63924591

Anon she has claimed multiple times that she is extremely unsure of her future and that she wouldn't be surprised if her health collapses on any random day.

>> No.63924609

They have no real arguments or defense so they just spit out whatever they can think of in the moment, regardless of substance. It's the same as arguing with the niji sisters or homo sisters, they're practically braindead.

>> No.63924612

she has never said that

>> No.63924637

Yeah but why are they trying to be one?

>> No.63924644

Ey man, I'm a straight guy who got a boner from looking at 2D tiddies, I just don't know why they like to draw luxiem members raping each other.

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Here's some random indie for comparison.

>> No.63924731

opinion controversy, but I don't consider her sexy. She behaves like an old Latina, she reminds me of my aunts.

>> No.63924735

there's two explanations
> mouse viewers are mostly on mobile and mobile viewers are less likely to chat
> mouse viewers are mostly alt tabbed and using her stream as background noise
Second one makes the most sense, because youtube doesn't count alt tabbed viewers and mouse went from 7k to 2k when she streamed on youtube.

It also explains places like these >>63922514 where tabbed out viewers get curious about what she's freaking out about and tune back in, increasing the chat speed to normal levels.

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>> No.63924813

i have one more explanation

>> No.63924818

she has a bajillion overcomplicated designs, and not enough twitter fans to make the effort of drawing fanart worth it.

>> No.63924825

great argument, sister.

>> No.63924848

>because youtube doesn't count alt tabbed viewers
Proof next thread?

>> No.63924870

>#1 en chuuba moggs all others no competition clear winner IRONMOUSE UNDISPUTED CHAMPION
>she has 0 artist fans. cmon guys she has too many designs! give her a break!
its just sad at this point.

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This isn't a debate

>> No.63924936

Is this the part you tell me this is some super secret ultra popular indie that can somehow get more than half the "most popular" en vtubers viewership?

>> No.63924960

>and not enough twitter fans to make the effort of drawing fanart worth it.
You know this sound like a straight up cope, anon.

>> No.63924961

happens with pretty much every major ship, Pekomiko, Gunkan, Crossick etc. etc.

>> No.63924971

Fuck that ant bitch I dont care about her. I do however care about the money that went missing. You're too blind to notice she's pulling a 'completionist' and Vshojo is enabling her.

>> No.63924972

So don't defend these morons.

>> No.63925002

It's more like a thrashing with how hard you people are getting your asses handed to you.

>> No.63925014

She is one of the most popular indies

>> No.63925060

> Pekomiko
It still hurts me that they stopped collaborating

>> No.63925072

No money went missing
She never took any money
It was going to come from her own pocket
People complained about the charity
So she didn't donate
(You) don't even like the charity

>> No.63925090

and what explanation would that be, anon?

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>> No.63925133

take a guess anon.

>> No.63925219

>Mouse viewers are all me

>> No.63925239

Yes, she's one of the largest liggers
>Numbers for 12/3: (avg CCV)
>1: https://twitch.tv/vedal987 (6,754)
>2: https://twitch.tv/Shylily (4,334)
>3: https://twitch.tv/anny (4,245)
>>>4: https://twitch.tv/nihmune (4,097)

>> No.63925257

are you calling me a robot

>> No.63925313

it's kinda obvious

>> No.63925343

So you're telling me this random indie can pull nearly 50% of her twitch viewership to her youtube stream and ironmouse can barely even pull 30%?

>> No.63925348

Stop replying to the bot, bot.

>> No.63925405

can't pull viewers who are asleep, anon

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>> No.63925461

so lets recap to wrap this thread up:
1. ironmouse likely bots her stream
2. ...

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>> No.63925477

>14 messages a minute
6000 viewers my ass

>> No.63925503

Why are you assuming they opened a new tab?

>> No.63925508

nigga people chat faster in fucking 3 hour WAITING ROOMS for holos compared to Ironmouse's LIVE stream.

>> No.63925542

>500 replies.
>60+ IPs.
I guess this is /#/ #2, Ironmouse special edition. She is truly the Queen of EN vtubing. Numbers, the most influential thread, even made a thread specifically for her.

>> No.63925553

why are you assuming they closed the marine tab after leaving?

>> No.63925565

More like 1 desperate shill posting on cooldown defending his queen

>> No.63925571

if you have numberfags seething this much you must be doing something right

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>resorting to ur mad again

>> No.63925607

The one stream you faggots keep posting was one where Mouse was late by 2 and half hours as she was knocked out by her meds so most her fans assumed it had been cancelled. As #fags being retarded as usual.

>> No.63925608

Honestly I wish it was botting but its more that her chat culture and mods are awful. Cant talk to other chatters and cant talk about anything but the current stream without being timed out

>> No.63925654

Is she part of a cult or something? Did all her viewers get drugged up too? You know what real people would do if a stream is boring as shit? They would LEAVE

>> No.63925669

>stream live 24/7
>she was late
my anus

>> No.63925712

Mouse is terrible at starting streams at consistent times because her sleep schedule is fucked

>> No.63925726

You can't fall any lower, stop embarrassing yourself like this.

>> No.63925738

those are both industry standard rules, no?

>> No.63925755

you numberfags are seething so hard you had to make a separate thread

>> No.63925761

so you're telling me her chat is used to her being late? so >>63925607 is just bullshit then? you guys cant even land a single point without immediately throwing it out.

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>> No.63925777

These rules exist in Holo and Niji streams too.

>> No.63925831

if someone is 2.5 hours late to a stream you would assume its cancelled

>> No.63925835

Stop making up narratives and do something productive with your time.

>> No.63925863

no you wouldnt. streams arent barbeques. they start when the streamer arrives.
t. hooman

>> No.63925876

The trick is she only tells her sub-only Discord when she is going to go live, her actual audience doesn't know when she's going live at all usually, so they don't know if she's "late"
The YouTube stream having a public starting time is really abnormal for her

>> No.63925896

nigga it's the standard for chubas chat.
I won't call it botting but Ironmouse's chat culture is certainly something that detached from vtuber culture.

>> No.63925924

And Mouse has a tendency to cancel streams due to medical emergencies and shit. So a 2 hour delay leading to a stream is unexpected.

>> No.63925965

so you two are telling me that if ironmouse randomly started streaming nobody would watch her? what if she said she would stream at 5 and then came on at 8 instead. nobody would tune in?

>> No.63926004

>collab excuse
Except even NijiEN collabs have a faster chat

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>> No.63926029

thats more sad than her botting.

>> No.63926035

if she is streaming on another platform and is 2.5 hours its not surprising that numbers were pretty low

>> No.63926043

That's... genuinely sad

>> No.63926082

2.5 hours late*

>> No.63926102

how can she be the #1 en chuuba and not have any fans. i dont understand this argument. she should have people who want to watch her. people who stop what they are doing to tune in.

>> No.63926129

you know holos get low numbers when they stream on twitch right?

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nta but don't move the goalpost, anon

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> tfw you need to wait 60 seconds to post here
> tfw you need to solve a fucking retarded capcha
> STILL faster than mouse chat
Jesus Christ absolutely and utterly btfo

>> No.63926181

If she's doing an unannounced stream, it takes a while for her viewers to show up. Especially if it's not on her main platform. People don't exactly stalk her Youtube page of all things. They usually check her Twitter, Discord and Twitch channel. Youtube is the last place they would randomly check for an unscheduled stream. (it was schedules, and delayed by 2 hours, so effectively unscheduled, people weren't stalking that page)

>> No.63926198

I'm not moving the goalpost, if you stream on a different platform you get lower numbers

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yeah but the current topic was about Mouse being late = low viewers

>> No.63926271

Mouse being 2 hours late to a scheduled stream on an alt platform = low numbers, yes

>> No.63926293

so tweet it out then. you're implying all her viewers are just passive twitch viewers who are watching assmongoloid or something.

>> No.63926322

are all the people from twitch this limp wristed in their support?

>> No.63926328

>Ame doing guerilla unannounced karaoke on twitch
>Getting almost same numbers as her regular avg yt viewers at the time
Sounds like a skill issue to me, Mouse should just actually be entertaining i guess

>> No.63926337

She's pretty random about what she posts on Twitter, what she announces on her Discord, and what she doesn't announce at all.

>> No.63926341

ah, so she's not a VTuber then, just a streamer with an anime avatar

>> No.63926352

so shes a retard who doesnt care about her fans. thanks.

>> No.63926378

>She is not owned by VShoujo
>Cuts contact to Nyanners completely

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Content creator of the year everybody!
Game Awards?
To the trash it goes *sluuuuuuuuuuuuuuurp*

>> No.63926503

Accepting the botting explanation, I'm curious if VShojo would be the one doing it or the streamer themselves.

>> No.63926560

the org would need to keep a veneer of prestige, streamer for vanity. could be either. or both!

>> No.63926616

>IMfag still botting both Holo and Niji with cheap bots to this day simply because /#/ shat on his queen
Or 3rd choice, the viewer(s).

>> No.63926623

I'd still be able to see her streaming on another platform. do you not have notifications turned on or check the account yourself?

>> No.63926779

If I'm watching Twitch streams, I don't tend to stare at Youtube notifications at the same time.

>> No.63926798

Vshitjo defense force is hilarious

>> No.63926871

Next thread

>> No.63926879

>Holding the thought in your head that anybody ever thought stream chats were anything more then id vomit.

I bet you think the reality slop on TV is the pinnacle of erudite discourse.

No, I do not own a thesaurus, you're just a low IQ peon whose only function is consuming.

>> No.63926892

>Accepting a schizo conspiracy theory with absolute zero valid evidence instead of accepting the rat is popular
Man holokeks are something else.

>> No.63926924

All this talk just shows that mouse's viewers aren't loyal, though

>> No.63927007

I used to watch Vshojo, actually. Lots of streamers talk about how easy it is to bot on Twitch.

>> No.63927034

kek literally asmonbald even talk about how botting is necessary on twitch to actually grow your audience.

>> No.63927081

As easy to bot YT. Guess that means Pekora is botted to hell.

>> No.63927117

kek you wish

>> No.63927130

Kek even if we're running with your delusion, Pekora's chat speed made Ironmouse looks like a 3view

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>> No.63927222

A couple weeks ago even Vei was discussing bots on Twitch. She said they're getting harder to detect. But everyone just accused her of being salty that she "declined." Wouldn't be surprised if she was getting botted during her time in Vshojo.

>> No.63927282

Bot spam. holokeks so pathetic they have to chatbot to stay on top. Pathetic.

>> No.63927340

>569 posts and still no argument or refutations

>> No.63927367

Cover doesn't bot the big girls. They only bot the new Armiggers when their debuts get shit numbers.

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Ironmouse should consider one then considering how much of a graveyard her chats are.

>> No.63927379

The empress winning against the queen is a proof enough for me.

>> No.63927412

Nice try IMfag, you ain't slick.

>> No.63927478

Do you have proof of that?

>> No.63927479

I'm slicker than your mom's pussy was last night.

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They had a nice konkonkitsune.

>> No.63927530

Thanks for self-confirming your identity IMfag.

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>> No.63927746

just check the archive for the number threads on the 2nd day of the homodebuts it was so obvious even the holokeks in /#/ weren't denying it

>> No.63927786

Stop self-reporting your dirty deed, IMfag

>> No.63927791

so you don't have proof? pathetic

>> No.63927806

>transsexual newfag has no idea why people started disliking vshojo in the first place.

>> No.63927864

find a psychiatrist anon imfag might've given you ptsd if ur seeing him everywhere i ain't him

>> No.63927890

Don't post in the same style as IMfag then, retard

>> No.63927902

Never though I'd keked side by side with a Nijifag

>> No.63927926

>i ain't him
nta For some reason this sounds like a lie.

>> No.63927971

fine then i am him jesus you guys've been fucking kekked by this guy

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I'm sure you've saved at least one picture of proof of this claim, right - anon?

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nta but youtube shadowbanning viewers are something that's been well-documented in the past, to the point that they even had to address it on twitter.

>> No.63928181

I don't even know who that is.

>> No.63928269

Why are holofans the only ones who provide evidence when they argue?The other moron didn't provide any evidence.

>> No.63928442

>2 threads and almost 700 replies later still no proof of embeds
do you care that much about a retarded award nomination? She's not even gonna win why are you so mad

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Also nta but it doesn't take too long to find them.
2 minute poll 22k viewers, 27k votes

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>> No.63928529

Pretty ironic post when you legit waiting for someone to prove it 700 replies later, anon

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aaahhh good old youtube
they also freeze VOD views for entire days

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I mean, at least holofags manage to put the receipt for something.
700 replies later and vshocucks still couldn't even decisively put an end to embedmouse allegation

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>> No.63928764

>you can't prove that the narrative i made up with no evidence except my bias is fake so I'm right
How are people like you even real

>> No.63928796

Because people like you are also real

>> No.63929115

Over 600 posts of numbermonkey sperging. Numberfags should be banned globally.

>> No.63929177

why are you so sensitive?

>> No.63929222

Gonna cry?

>> No.63929690

So has no one ever posted bait in /vsj+/ before, why is everyone falling for such obvious bait?

>> No.63929754

gotta defend the Qween

>> No.63930097

no argument and no refutation to the very end