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ALL SONGS ARE JAPANESE LMAOOOOOO

>> No.6375913

>>6375790
>Japs song
Rent free

>> No.6376165

and that's a good thing

>> No.6376485

>>6376165
wtf is the point of making her EN then if she gnona sing in japanese. What a waste of time and resources

>> No.6377033

BASED

>> No.6377130

Just wait for the singing stream.

>> No.6377190

And you're going to listen to it you fucking weeb.

>> No.6377203

>>6377130
nigga she be streaming at like 3am america time you think im doing anything but sleeping you tripping

>> No.6377226

>>6376485
Did you forget that the Hololive audience is all weeaboos?

>> No.6377239

can't find english music producer

>> No.6377278

>>6375790
I mean looking at her schedule it's painfully obvious she live in Japan so it's not that surprising.

>> No.6377322

>>6377203
what's up with the twitter lingo?

>> No.6377328

>>6375790
Japanese love it when gaijin sing in Japanese

>> No.6377334

She wants to be an anime singer. What did you expect

>> No.6377336

>>6375790
>Call her an EN member so she gets the buff
>Release jap songs to keep the weebs invested
Cover did something smart for once

>> No.6377462

>>6375790
Does Cover have access to any English music writers? Calli doesn't count to this question.

>> No.6377489

>>6377203
It's 11PM where I am, must suck to be an east coastie.

>> No.6377506

>>6376485
what, you expected the anime character to sing a country song and chart in the US?

>> No.6377527

>>6377322
zoomer website. go back to your deathbed grandpa

>> No.6377579

>>6376485
Why would I want to listen EN garbage

>> No.6377592

>>6377489
i gots a job nigga fuck yall

>> No.6377637

God why hire bilinguals to sing Japanese songs when the existing talent can just do it?

>> No.6377692

>>6376485
It's harder to judge quality in a foreign language, so people will think she's better than she is.

>> No.6377717

It' not HER...
what a let down, i hate this nose vtuber

>> No.6377787

English is overrated.

>> No.6377867

Ame really is the only actual EN huh..

>> No.6377882

>>6376485
have you ever heard retards who try to cover anime songs but make the lyrics english? like lieandlee or whatever the fuck. it ends up sounding worse than the original at best, cringey at worst.
this is a fuckin anime hobby, they're anime girls, they're gonna sing anime music and thus its gonna be in jap. nobody wants anything besides j-music, cause cover aren't gonna start writing them symphonic metal songs or some shit that would be nice. en pop? no thanks. calli shows that rap is fuckin atrocious even when a cute anime girl does it. just stick with j-pop and j-rock and don't risk fucking around with dogshit music.

>> No.6377908

>>6375790
>>6376485
Vtubing is first and foremost a Japanese/weeb hobby and always will be. Get over it.

>> No.6378017

>>6377692
You can still judge the music/production itself even if you can't tell what the lyrics are.

>> No.6378024

>>6377637
>when the existing talent can just do it?
cause they can't interact with them on stream properly for the most part, very few of them are able and they just lost the one they had that could do it the best. it's not about the singing, it's about the fact that hardly any en viewers they haven't already captured will watch her if she doesn't speak english whilst streaming anon

>> No.6378463

>>6377867
>Ame finally releases an original song herself
>It's in Spanish
I actually want her to do that now, but nah it's gonna be in nip, just you wait
Is no one other than the wigger allowed to sing in English or something?

>> No.6378485

>>6375790
Yes, because we're all fucking weebs and we're gonna listen to it and love it. You can't deny it because you know I'm right.

>> No.6378792

>>6377506
Why yes, the best vtuber does it, why wouldn't this one?

>> No.6378856

>Not as good as Suisei
>Not as good as Azki
>JP emphasis
>EN branch
but why?

>> No.6378873
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gura
gura
gura

>> No.6378988

>>6378856
good enough for EOPs I guess

>> No.6379033

>>6378988
it's like an identity crisis. And the schedule is absolute shit for EN timezones.
>12AM PST for Apex of all things

>> No.6379043

>>6378024
you'd be right except her streaming times tells us shes not supposed to interact with an english speaking audience either. horrible misstep

>> No.6379054

Thats fine...she just shouldn't of been marketed to the en branch.

>> No.6379086

>NijiEN releases an original english song
>Random indies release english songs
>Nyanners makes her own song
b-bros?!

>> No.6379113

>>6376485
Because that's exactly what she did before hololive, sing anime/jpop songs

>> No.6379125

OP is a fag who watches anime dubbed.

>> No.6379323

>>6377882
>symphonic metal songs
Japan does have those in the anime variety.

>en pop? no thanks.
Pop has some really good stuff. I just don't think Cover or their producers could make anything that would actually rival the West.

>calli shows that rap is fuckin atrocious even when a cute anime girl does it
I think the rap only sounds bad because Calli could still use more training and practice.

>> No.6379347

>>6379043
>shes not supposed to interact with an english speaking audience either.
you mean american audience maybe. i didn't pay attention to her streaming time cause i'm not a normie, but there's every chance she could be for eu english speakers or whatever.
realistically they probably just threw her in a fucking slot that doesn't clash with their other streamers with no actual thought

>> No.6379427

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnP0cKNPE04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIxUUkmnFCo
Here's your english lyrics bro.

>> No.6379451

>>6379125
>i miss over half of what's happening in the show while trying to read a shitty fansub
I feel bad for you.

>> No.6379515

>>6379427
Nyanners is genuinely pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spi6yOS6zy4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOLqvFOqXtw

Lazulight is pretty good too, but in their debut song they had to pretend to be bad for Finana's sake. But both Elira and Pomu are fantastic in Karaoke streams.

>> No.6379524

How can a random indog sing more English song than the entire en branch+vsinger combined

>> No.6379620

>>6379451
>Cannot read more than 5 words per minute
I feel bad for you

>> No.6379643

>>6379323
>Pop has some really good stuff
>would actually rival the West.
I could not disagree harder. As a music graduate and musician especially, western pop all sounds like absolute garbage to me. At least j-pop has some nice instrument use going on within it a bunch of the time or some distinct changes, if you like western pop idk man.
Rap sounds bad because rap is flat out bad, even if calli was some famous ghetto jogger considered the 'peak' of rap, it would still sound shit. Rap has very little musical talent or creativity in meter, timing or composition involved in it 99% of the time.
And whilst anime music does have some metal etc in it, my meaning is that cover are never gonna go for that in a million years - not with an actual talent they're pushing as a singer. They'd let some of their talent do it in karaoke and to fuck around sure but they'd never actually back them in making/putting out that kind of music cause they're one track minds on what they want.

>> No.6379671

>>6379427
city pop should be the standard for western singing vtubers
anime songs are gay, sorry to break it to you guys

>> No.6379699

>>6375790
Might as well just label Holo JP singers with the EN label then, because it’s the same thing as IRyS anyway.

>> No.6379723

>>6375790
learn japanese, faggot

>> No.6379743

>>6379515
>>6379671
Did you even listen to the Nyanners song? Hell, even Mori's cringy rap is better than it.

>> No.6379769

>>6379323
western pop is horrible shitty does decades, anyone can top any shit that is on top of the market today with enough production and marketing

>> No.6379797

>>6379743
No its not.
Mori is fucking terrible. I actually tried to give her a shot, she sounds fucking awful.

I'd rather listen to Haato's red heart.

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>>6375790
Into the trash she goes.

>> No.6379910

>English vtuber singing in Japanese
It's shit. (I like IRyS though)
>Japanese vtuber singing in English
It's actually awesome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgluvEzBe4c&t=905s

>> No.6379929

>>6379797
And did you actually listen to the Nyanners one? It suffers the same problem as the Lazulight one, it was japanese tune written for lyrics that appear to have been MTL'd into English. It just feels... off. As cringy as Mori's rap is, it doesn't feel out of place in its cringiness.

>> No.6379989

>>6377908
Of course, Just ask Calli.

>> No.6380058

>>6379929
The difference is in Nyanner's case at least is that the lyrics are supposed to be comedic in their own way and for the most part they fit the rhythm.

Mori's is just really really bad rap, her voice is awful, and the lyrics themselves are cringe worthy at best.
I downloaded one of her songs for beat saber and I can't even be assed to go through it because listening to her try to sing it makes me shudder.

>> No.6380094

>>6378463
What if it's an original song in english with british portions?

>> No.6380135

>bring Moona, Ollie and Risu to EN
>send Kiara, Irys and Mori to JP
everything solved

>> No.6380380

>>6380058
>at least is that the lyrics are supposed to be comedic in their own way and for the most part they fit the rhythm
Legit no idea if this is true or wrong, but to my peasant ears, the song just feels "off".

>> No.6380438

>>6380380
It feels off because she's not in hololive and you're retarded.
Half her songs are fucking english songs from the start.

>> No.6380508

>>6375790
>why are they selling japanese to wapanese?!
hownu.ru?

>> No.6380536

>>6376485
NIPON PRIDE MOTHER FUCKER

>> No.6380547

>>6380438
>muh tribalism
Retardchama, her covers are absolute kino. It's only Foolish Heart that feels weird.

>> No.6380550

>>6375790
Cover whyyy

>> No.6380645

>>6380438
Foolish heart is a shit song anon. It was cringe in the ai live concert, it's still cringe now. It has shit melody/key changes, the vocals are not particularly good at all. It sounds off because it's musically a trashfire, the chorus is the exact same as the first half of the verse for fuck sake, it has no rise or fall, no build, nothing. The best part is the sax solo cause every other shit thing stops behind it mostly. The anon you're replying to is right, if chuubas put out music like this they would lose every single viewer that follows them for music. Nyanners isn't the worst part about the song, whoever the fuck composed it is. It's trying to capture synth pop vibes and failing miserably

>> No.6380648

>>6380547
Don't quote me then faggot, I only linked her 2 covers.

>> No.6380818

>>6375790
The remix of the title song seems like it could be pretty good.

>> No.6381402

>>6376485
Does Cover even have English speaking song writers?

Not even Gura's song is in English

>> No.6381513

>>6379620
>retard doesn't understand how human attention works
go watch the gorilla experiment, retard.

>> No.6381560

EOPS SEETHE

>> No.6381911

>>6376485
Get ready for that deep lore og songs in Japanese.

>> No.6382107

>>6377692
True. Example: Kiara. That Spark song needed another pass or two by people who speak english.

>> No.6382145

>>6377336
Feels good not attending her live nor watching her VOD

>> No.6382277
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Reminder that Haachama is the only HoloEN member to make English songs.

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>>6382277

>> No.6382403

>>6382357
Ebonics aren't English.

>> No.6382553

>>6381402
Mori....

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>>6382403

>> No.6382727

>>6382277
Come home chammers please ;_;

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>>6376485
Seriously. I dont mind some japanese but all japanese is just fucking boring. I can go and listen to 10 other fucking holomems sing 10 different weeb songs. Even though Amelia is objectively bad at singing I have way more fun in her karaoke streams because she actually sings english songs and has a shit ton of variety

>> No.6383755

>>6377692
for real tho

>> No.6383921

When she covers her nose and mouth in the album art of her EP, she actually looks fine. Knowing Cover and how happy she seems with her model tho, I doubt there will be changes or adjustments.

>> No.6384018

>>6375790
>sing western song
>debut stream has to be removed because of fear of copyright
LMAOOOOOO

>> No.6384085

>>6375790
>ALL SONGS ARE JAPANESE
Excellent. This filters the tourists who have no interest in weeb stuff.

>> No.6384197

>>6375790
>all songs are japanese
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDyZ3VgjcCE

Do antis even do their research

>> No.6384250

>>6377908
reminder: best selling vtuber artist work is english hip hop from the whitest white girl and you will never be japanese

>> No.6384269

>>6376485
not enough EN anime to sing EN anime songs desu

>> No.6384285

>>6384197
you gotta listen past 18 seconds anon

>> No.6384336

>>6377226
>>6377506
>>6377579
>>6377882
>>6377908
You fuckers missed the point. Why label her EN? Shouldn't she just be labeled JP Vsinger then? Retards in this board I swear.
>>6377692
Ah yes. True. I'm now having memories of people saying subs are better even though they know fuck all Japanese.

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6384353

>>6384285
Clearly you need to do the same

>> No.6384377

>>6384336
because she speaks english fluently and will stream primarily in english and will interact with people who speak english

>> No.6384415

>>6384336

Because her streams will mostly be in English?

>> No.6384461

>not in EN time zone
>sings in Japanese
>is labeled EN
>insert confusion

>> No.6384530

>>6384377
>>6384415
She's marketed as a ENVsinger, not HoloEN2.

>> No.6384559

>>6384377
hows she going to interreact with a bunch of sleeping people mate? im really happy for the 3 kiwis who get to enjoy her voice, I really am, but part of EN's success has been built upon catering to english speaking time zones

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HoloJP reject? HoloJP reject.

>> No.6384707

>>6375790
She's a japanese duh

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6384833

Wow more tribalism, go back to /v/
I like EN and JP, and EN and JP songs.
Don't know about this woman yet though. It takes a while to get a good feeling for vtubers.

>> No.6384919

>>6384336
Anime subs are better because they sound better.

>> No.6384988

>>6384559
The same way the rest of HoloEN does
Other than Kiara when shes not in japan literally all of them have JP friendly stream times

>> No.6385002

>>6375790
Dropped.

>> No.6385126

>>6375790
>>6376485
Are you the same guys who complain about "hurr japanese too hard i can't learn it they should just change their language"?
Sounds pretty pathetic desu.

>inb4 "y-you will be japanese"
I don't intend to.

>> No.6385165

>>6382277
Stream sparks.

>> No.6385167

>>6384988
Still does not address the issue of her being an EN Vsinger if she's gonna sing Japanese when she could have been labeled as a JP Vsinger instead.

>> No.6385254

>>6385167
She speaks in English. You're going in circles.
She'll probably sing both anyway.

>> No.6385256

>>6385167
Take that to court with Youtube as they will shut your channel down if you dare to sing western songs

>> No.6385303

>>6384559
I'm east coast USA, and I'm usually watching Vtubers at the time she's streaming.

>> No.6385399

>>6385254
Haato and Coco speaks English. Are they labeled as EN? No because their primary content is Japanese, right?
Now you have a VSinger, who's labeled as ENGLISH singer as primary content and yet she SINGS in Japanese.
She might as well be fucking HoloEN2 or VSinger JP then if you're gonna make that argument.

>> No.6385437

>>6385256
Isn't the point of being a Vsinger is to sing original songs that she made like this damn album?

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>>6385399
Okay I get your issue now. I understand.
You're angry that her title is EN singer, as in English singer, but she sings Japanese songs.
Why are you so worked up about the minor arbitrary distinction?
You're autstic!

>> No.6385552

>>6383216
Amelia's recent karaoke was fucking amazing.
Even as bad as her singing is, it's KARAOKE, it's meant to be high-energy low-expectations fun, and she excels at that.

Anyone who missed that stream, I highly recommend looking for it in the usual places.

>> No.6385553

>>6385519
>autistic
Do you know where you are?

>> No.6385585

>>6385437
Vsinger is a new group and that cannot happen for a very long time

>> No.6385616

>>6385585
Well that sucks. I'm not even mad now, I'm just disappointed.

>> No.6385651

ENVsinger can also mean a person that can speak in English that can sing. Her genre can be fucking anything and it looks like she gravitates to Jpop so all of you shut the fuck up. I don't need a fucking Diamond City Light. She can sing jpop and be good at it.

>> No.6385712

>>6385651
That's just reaching or splitting hairs. They either needed to make it clearer or their marketing department needs a slap in the face.
Either way, time will tell if this will turn out good.

>> No.6385756

>>6375790
Good.

>>6376485
Be quiet.

>> No.6385817

>>6385712
It's not splitting hairs when we know for a fact that vtubers mostly attracts weebs. The girl is a big otaku that loves singing jap songs. Why would it be surprising that she would choose to go og on her own jpop? If it sounds better that way then let her.

>> No.6385881

>>6385756
YWNBJ

>> No.6385920

>>6385817
Again, I'm not really criticising her choice of songs, I'm just seething for what I felt to be false advertising by Cover Corp.

>> No.6385996

>>6385552
>>6385552
Ame's karaoke was legit kino, I think I to Your Move more than I've listened to IRyS' debut.

>>6379427
Diamond City Lights makes me realise how much Niji mogs Cover. Song is decently mixed, uses the voices of the three talents well (as you'd hope from an idol song) and the video is of a high enough quality to feel professional.

It'll still filter a mainstream audience because the song itself is written with Japanese sensibilities in mind and is very anime-esque but it's definitely closer to the kind of launch push Cover should have tried for with V-Singer.

I'll get mogged for saying this despite being a paid up Teamate but Niji are done down by a lack of name recognition rather than bad business sense.

>> No.6386007

>>6385817
>>6385651
>I don't need a fucking Diamond City Light.
Well Niji is the least weeb vtubers corp out there so kinda makes sense for them to localize that far for EN

>> No.6386071

>>6385920
Let me be clear then. I don't see it as a false advertisement for an anime girl that loves anime to take part in producing songs that sounds like an anime soundtrack. If she streams in JP and only JP sure then that is false advertising. Much like HoloId

>> No.6386101

>>6386071
True. We'll see how it goes.

>> No.6386138

>>6384563
In the same way all the HoloJPs are HoloEN rejects.

>> No.6386185

>>6385996
No. There are genres that only works well in the original format much like JP anime songs or jp songs in general. If they want to make an English song then they need an english composer and producer. That's why diamond city lights bombed. Irys choosing JP main for songs produced by jp peeps is better choice. It won't be off-putting.

>> No.6386204

>>6385996
>Niji are done down by a lack of name recognition rather than bad business sense.

Anon, tell me how the lack of name recognition came to be again?
Ah yes, because they got fucking awful Japanese business sense

>> No.6386209

I reckon she should have sung 1 Japanese and 1 English song. Didn't Gura sing a couple of songs in her debut? I thought IRyS had the time for at least another song or two so I was more disappointed it was just the one song.

>> No.6386219

>>6386071
>Much like HoloId
Cover idea with ID is indeed with globalization in mind, 5/6 excells in eigo and nihongo to be both a beta version of holoEN and as an extension of holoJP, it's the perfect place for a middle ground between EN and JP branch

>> No.6386274

>>6386204
Give us some examples and let's dissect it One by One

>> No.6386316

>>6376485
japs think english is cool

>> No.6386411

>>6382277
When I think of Hololive original songs, BRH is the one to always come to mind.

>> No.6386464

>>6375790
It's okay anon. You can also listen to Japanese songs in public. Why are you so embarassed listening to Japanese songs in public? Are you that pathetic that you are emasculated by listening to a song in a different language? How gross.

>> No.6386527

>investment into a legit singer
>jp songs
Mori and Suisei will SEETHE knowing this bitch gonna topple them down soon enough

>> No.6386564

>>6377506
Didn't Mori chart in the US?

>> No.6386583

>>6386564
Yes she did.

>> No.6386599

>>6386204
>because they got fucking awful Japanese business sense
It's not that japanese business sense that caused it but rather their cringe ass branding, their unity is bizzare and hard to recognize by casuals and also that damned logo is disgusting and it brings people people wanna get away from niji

>> No.6386636

>>6376485
English clearly isn't your native language either so why do you care

>> No.6386686

>>6386599
But all of that are result of business decision tho
It's not like they are forced to have shit loads of member who barely interact with other or anything

>> No.6386760

>>6386686
>But all of that are result of business decision tho
What decision tho? I'd like to know what exactly caused it

>> No.6386805

>>6381513

Learn to read

>> No.6386834

>>6382277

Akai Haato is trash and I hate her cha- shit memes

>> No.6386861

>>6386834
Zhang hands typed this.

>> No.6386905

>>6375790
Disappointing.

>> No.6386919

>>6386834
Tell me Zhang. How did you hit 'Post' with them bug hands of yourself?

>> No.6386948

>>6386834
You are Zhang.

>> No.6386967

>JP singing holo
Suisei exists

Azki exists

Towa/Watame/etc exist

all are better, so what niche does this irys person fill?

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>>6375790
Good

>> No.6387242

>>6386967
She's not here for the niches, she's here to represent holoEN in 3d debuts and concerts in JP eventually

>> No.6387718

>>6386967
She is the usual JP singing holo, but she can talk in english. Imagine if Sora talked in English, I would watch all of her streams.

>> No.6387881

>>6387718
Pretty much. I also think it's because she prefers singing in JP. She hardly released any English songs in the past

>> No.6388126

>>6384336
anon you're probably the only one on this board that thinks its a big deal

>> No.6390308

>>6375790
When do we get an opera vtuber who sings Wagner

>> No.6390349

eop status: filtered

>> No.6390630

>>6380536
what pride? they let 3 white women into the company and theyve been losing records to them ever since

>> No.6390764

>>6386564
she charted in several countries because she did music that can actually be understood internationally in a genre that isnt jpop

>> No.6391177

>>6390630
>3
Isn't Kiara just straightup German? All her Japanese was learned through autism.

>> No.6391444

Aren't the songs half English / half Japanese?

>> No.6392203

>>6375790
They just want the EN buff for their jp streamers, they know foreign fans won't notice or care and eat their shit up.

>> No.6392249

>>6391177
Austrian

>> No.6392324

>>6376485
They replied because he spoke the truth

>> No.6392377

>>6376485
weeaboo website
now fuck off

>> No.6392451

>>6378988
Not even EOPs will touch her... only mutts from shithole state of California, some SEAniggers and that's it...

>> No.6392491

Yeah, because in what world are non weebs interested in this singing nonsense?

>> No.6392495

>>6379125
Did you even read the thread?
OP points out she's literally JP with good English in EN... As if only speaking English is enough to get to the branch

>> No.6392508

Lol must suck to be a holofag and keep getting shit on by cover with this 0 quality trash

>> No.6392512

I don't care if it's a "weeb" thing. The ENGLISH branch should sing ENGLISH songs.

>> No.6392522

>>6379347
Literally every country in EU is Fucking SLEEPING when she streams...

>> No.6392631

>>6384085
I'm turbo weeb and I got filtered by her face...
>captcha was PPXP btw

>> No.6392654

>>6377226
>>6377579
>>6377908
You can be into Jap culture without wanting to hear nothing but Gurenge, Renai Circulation and Cruel Angel Thesis
There is more music out there

>> No.6392678

>>6385256
Retard...

>> No.6392707

>>6392512
Nah, go to listen to normie music and watch your dubbed anime.

>> No.6392708

>>6385519
>minor
False advertising can get you in jail...

>> No.6392782

>>6392249
Well, that makes her even more autistic.

>> No.6394301

>>6377506
>you expected the anime character to sing a country song

Didn't EN sing country roads?

>> No.6394444

>>6392707
Hachama's Red Heart is better than gooruh's JP song

>> No.6394629

>>6394301
looks how that turned out

>> No.6394801
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>>6394629
pretty fucking bad

>> No.6394978

Someone brought up haato, but her English songs are actually unironically great. Her second original is fucking underrated. Even kiara's new song is good. I'm not gonna freak out over it yet, but I do hope her originals aren't exclusively japanese.

>> No.6395238

>>6385399
She's not labeled as an EN singer. She's labaled as a HololiveEN singer. Massive difference there.

>> No.6395311

>>6394801
They got Ame to sing and fucking Kiara went 101% screech...
Cut those portions out and it would be decent

>> No.6395324

>>6376485
Anon, this may come as a surprise to you but Hololive is a japanese thing that just branched out to English weebs.
Shocking, I know.

>> No.6395518

>>6375790
>la creatura de las desesperar

>> No.6395723

>>6376485
Serious answer: it’s because Cover is a Japanese company and she can’t write lyrics. If a holoEN member needs a lyrics their manager goes “Well, we know a bunch of good Japanese lyricists we don’t really know any English ones you’d have to find them on your own.”

Gura, Kiara, Irys, and probably Ina are more willing to sing in Japanese then find someone to write them English lyrics.

>> No.6395770

>>6377579
kissless + hugless + you will never be japanese + you will never marry a japanese woman + you will never live in japan

>> No.6395795

Do non-weebs even watch holo?

>> No.6395993

>>6395795
Probably not, but a lot of people unironically watch dubbed anime, so it's not a surprise when they want to hear English songs from IRyS desu.

>> No.6396125

>>6395993
Disgusting

>> No.6397055

>>6395795
>>6395993

>>6395770

>> No.6397120

>>6376485
Entry level weebs like you don't belong here.

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>>6394301
>Didn't EN sing country roads?
Don't remind me

>> No.6397937

>>6375790
>weebs like music in japanese? no way

>> No.6397983

>>6376485
if you want songs in english listen to Kiara's last original, cry and pain, come back and ask for forgiveness

>> No.6398061

>>6377579
Japs actually think English is cool, and they like when burgers act unabashedly burgerish Cowboys, superheroes, American Football and all that shit. Same goes with brits and tea etc.

Japs dont care for weebs

>> No.6398489

>>6398061
Japs don't care for weebs like the west doesn't care for westaboos beyond any money they bring in through tourism.

>> No.6398689

>>6377226
I hate anime but love hololive

>> No.6399169

>>6386834
Based. I feel like people are just pretending that they like her.

>> No.6400224

>>6395723
>we don’t really know any English ones you’d have to find them on your own
Not really an excuse when Haato could make it happen for her 2st single.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mj2QJE-UOI

>> No.6400232

Cover probably wants to do more anime OP's and ED's... such a huge way to improve their brand value.

>> No.6400362

>>6395723
Although calli writes her own lyric I’m sure she can introduce Irys to someone who can.

>> No.6400409

>>6395723
Irys used to translate songs to English but she prefers singing in jap. She's a big big weeb. Please understand.

>> No.6400439

I was worried about my oshi #1 spot on the musical scene on the en side. Glad she turned out just to be jp singer cosplaying as en vtuber. Her title is safe

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>>6400439
>my oshi #1 spot on the musical scene on the en side
When the competion is limited to just 4 people I don't think that's anything title worth being proud of.
Why do you care anyway your Oshi wouldn't want you to compare her anyway.

>> No.6400785

>>6400686
Competition is limited but still #1 also dont be a boy scout about it. "Don't compare" lmao...Thats what reddit is for

>> No.6401171

>>6376485
This. They should just make her Vsinger instead of Hololive EN. The labelling makes no sense.

>>6388126
I also think it's a big deal. It sounds like blatant mislabeling to me. It's like advertising Korean but then it's all Spanish.

>>6394301
I refuse to believe that shit exists :)

>>6395993
I watch subbed anime but I wanted to hear songs in English. I don't like dubbed anime. It seems like Irys is very capable of doing songs all in English, especially with her Anisong genre. I wanted to hear Japanese themes in English music. I don't want to hear Country Roads shit.

>>6395723
How hard is it to write lyrics? It's literally the easiest part of making a song. The composition and having the correct mixes is way harder.

>> No.6401269

>>6398689
take cyanide

>> No.6401431

Her english singing is literally Amalee tier so no wonder she chose jp even though it would still only place her midtier in terms of singing.

>> No.6401682

>>6377328
I doubt she’s a gaijin. They prolly just hired a jap that can speak English

>> No.6401742

>>6376485
He's right you know.

>> No.6401915

>>6400785
You're a cunt and a disapointment to your Oshi.
You don't deserve her and she would denounce you live on stream.

>> No.6402132

>>6401915
She'd denounce majority of her fan base just like any of the talents. Your such a little pussy about this

>> No.6402166

>>6401915
uhh red*dt much? we 4channers here must pick side and stick to that and compare a lot. you can't pick more than 2 oshi if you do that then ur a fag

>> No.6402303

>>6402132
>>6402166
You're both faggots who've never believed in UNITY.
If you're not living how your Oshi would want you to live then why even bother pretending she's your Oshi you're just a faggot pretending to fit in because you like her design.

>> No.6402466

>>6376485
>EN song
>BLM
>Trans right
>We are coming for your children
No thanks

>> No.6402606

>>6376485
if there was some actual good EN songs than perhaps she could sing them.

>> No.6402660

>>6402303
Dude. Your too far into this. This is too parasocail. Seriously you need to step back for a bit for you own health

>> No.6402693

>>6401682
She's a hafu. That's why she's half devil and half angel. She's half American from Hawaii. She has dual citizenship. This is also why she chose to be tan. She's probably is tan irl

>> No.6402719

>>6402606
Jesus all the neckbeards who want to be japanese are coming out of the woodwork. So this is gunna make up her fan base huh

>> No.6402859

>>6379427
are you saying nijisanji is better than hololive ?

>> No.6402951

Don't like her, sehe is """"english"""" in name only

>> No.6403055

>>6401682
She's Halfu from Hawaii.

>> No.6403135

>>6402303
uhhm im right and ur wrong, also take ur meds like the other guy said. and no im not gonna reply after this, the boys on discord waiting for me we're gonna play amongus bye

>> No.6403390

>>6402693
How do you know? Did she get doxxed already

>> No.6403412

>>6402719
He's right though. What are some good popular EN songs? I can't think of any because the west is absolute dogshit. All the good stuff is buried under and don't get much recognition. Why are you even here enjoying Japanese entertainment when you could be watching drag queens on your free time, doesn't that make you a weeb too you massive hypocrite

>> No.6403522

>>6403412
Thinking only jp has good songs is a dead give away of who im dealing with.. Go back to swinging a katanana in your mother basement Uber weeb

>> No.6403621

>>6395795
Not really but if Cover wants to keep expanding they need to think of their marking strategy. An actual good English singer with an anime Avatar could have been big.

>> No.6403654

>>6403412
A good singer can make even shitty songs sound great, see Suisei's english karaoke or any of Gura's english song covers

>> No.6403717

>>6403412
david kun

>> No.6403743

>>6403621
>strategy
I'm listening to her EP right now. Here Comes Hope is really really good. Just imagine Reflect with just pure dark. This is a good EP that is perfect balance between jpop and anime-ish soundtrack.

>> No.6403881

>>6403522
And what does EN have? Justin Beiber? Rebecca Black? fuck off retard.
Yes there are good EN songs out there, but that isn't EN culture and they don't get the recognition they deserve and they die out. All the west knows is what song matches the beat with their twerking dance

>>6403654
And a good song can make a shitty singer sound great. It goes both ways, it's not really an argument. Look at screamo metal.

>> No.6403949

>>6403881
>And what does EN have? Justin Beiber? Rebecca Black? fuck off retard.
Go back to 2011 faggot

>> No.6403998

>>6403881
How many Japanese swords do you own?

>> No.6404063

>>6375790
Good. JP sounds better.

>> No.6404997

>>6392522
She streams in golden murrica hours, though (between 7-11PM PDT). I don't quite remember, but wasn't there some charts few months ago showing that US was the 3rd biggest Hololive market (behind JP and CN, that was before chinks got their meltdown)?

>> No.6405180

>>6403390
Not him, but didn't her roomate twitter bio say as much? (the "Half American from Hawaii" part, not the tanned one)

>> No.6405203

>>6403949
>>6403998
go back to singing country roads lol

>> No.6405449

>>6403621
An actual good English singer (that sings mainly in English) wouldn't bother with anime avatar until VTubing blows up massively in the West. Pretty sure Cover is trying to get a really solid foothold with the weeb crowd first before trying to expand to the mainstream audiences

>> No.6405533

I don't get this. If the songs are all Japanese, it's not "English". Why is she even labelled as "EN"? This is fucking dumb.

>> No.6405651

>>6376485
Honestly EN feels like it should just be spun off into its own thing for how Cover treats them. They want to be global and yet constantly do things that are geared more to the domestic audience while showing preferential treatment to talent that lives in Japan.

>> No.6405855

>>6377506
I certainly expect a singer/music focused VTuber to do more than the type of generic J-Pop that would make AKB48 look like a group driven by artistry and creative passion.

>> No.6406078

>>6377462
>Does Cover have access to any English music writers? Calli doesn't count to this question.
There's a small idol group named RAY that had a song produced for them by the American shoegaze band Ringo Deathstarr. Another small group, Oyasumi Hologram, got the guitarist from Bloc Party to play guitar on a few of their songs and even play as part of one of their lives.

If relative no name groups like those, whose MVs top out in the low tens of thousands at the very best, can do it then Cover should have zero issue. There's plenty of lyricists who would probably love the opportunity to work on songs with the English talent but Cover being Cover they're going to take the lazy route instead.

>> No.6406098

>>6375790
Get a different hobby, EOP shitter.

>> No.6406140

>>6405533
They speak English to their audience, that should be enough. Hololive is a Japanese brand, deal with it.

>> No.6406179

>>6406140
>deal with it
Or I could just, you know, not watch them. Which I don't.

>> No.6406246

>>6406140
>Hololive is a Japanese brand
Yes, but they are marketing to a largely english audience. It is questionable why exactly 0 songs are in a language that their target audience actually understands.

>> No.6406341

>>6406078
It's a no name. Asking money would look bad. Imagine the same people doing stuff for Cover for free? You must be out of your mind. The girl likes jpop and anime songs. She has always loved singing in JP. She has always has said that she prefers jp songs. If she even release a full English song then it's because she's giving her fans a bone. Right now the songs are mid way. There are English lyrics. Nothing sounds awkward. The EP is great. People are buying it.

>> No.6406406

>>6406341
Eslchama...

>> No.6406442

>>6406246
It's their talent's choice to release songs. Blame the whole holoen for not releasing full English songs. IRyS chose the balance of incorporating both English and Jap. The EP is great.

>> No.6406463

>>6398689
based

>> No.6406511

>>6406406
People love the release. Nobody cares at this point that none are fully in English.

>> No.6406531

>>6394301
>>6394629
>>6394801
>>6397655
>>6397655
Why does everynyan hate it so much? I mean, I'd prefer if they sang it denver-style, with a proper guitar backing track, but by itself, it's ok, typical soulless corporate cover. I don't like the arrangement, it tries too hard to be cutesy, doesn't suit the fucking song at all.

>> No.6406783

>>6406442
This honestly

>> No.6407042

>>6403881
Oh, we are speaking about non-chuubas?
Leslie Fish, Erutan, Julia Ecklar and shittons of others
If you want I can also start pulling VSingers actually good shit that isn't modern JPOP

>> No.6407125

>>6406531
It's because it's all of those things, poorly mixed, and goddamnit we KNOW that Gura along mogs the song 1000x times to sunday in a solo karaoke acoustic version.

That's why we hate it. Because it's wasted potential and we'll never get a GOOD cover of the song because of it.

>> No.6407154

>>6380135
>bring someone who doesnt speak Japanese to JP
Good plan

>> No.6407220

>>6407042
>look it up
>it's some 7k literal who
While I can agree with you that indies are based, the western music industry only care about who can twerk the hardest and that reflects the modern EN music these days. No Holo would ever sing their songs and those will fade into obscurity. Why do you think we got Country Roads trash instead of good indie shit?

>> No.6407229

RWBY/10

>> No.6407334

>>6377527
zoomer =! retard
go back to twatter

>> No.6407424

>>6379086
who?

>> No.6407443

I swear this board gets upset at the stupidest shit (like kiara literally doing anything), literally there's no winning with you guys.
She is EN because she will talk mostly english and marketed as such, since when people started to get upset at people singing in japanese? I thought since most people that follow hololive are weebs that they hated anime-like songs in english.

Hell, she might even do fully english songs in the future, I still see this as something to gain the attention of the jps.

>> No.6407472

>>6407443
It's fun to be a santa.
>literally there's no winning with you guys
Stop visiting santa threads then.

>> No.6407525

Okay i had my fun, can we go back to baiting Cumbuds now?

>> No.6407526

>>6392708
It'a not false advertising if they are literally telling you what to expect upon her debut...

>> No.6407537

>>6375790
>ALL SONGS ARE JAPANESE LMAOOOOOO
ofc the weather software is not writen for english songs

>> No.6407545

>>6407472
santa is a creep

>> No.6407584

>>6407443
>since when people started to get upset at people singing in japanese?
When your audience is English but you sing in nothing but Japanese that's a problem.

>> No.6407598

>>6407443
>I thought since most people that follow hololive are weebs
Most people who started with HoloEN are N99 ironic weeb cancer who want their media to simultaneously be Japanese and pander to EOPs..

>> No.6407688

>>6407584
Until they get actual english composers, I see no problem with this, otherwise they'll end up with shit like >>6379427

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>>6375790
>Hololive JP
>all her songs are in english

>> No.6407975

>hire IRyS as an EN singer
>all of her songs are in JP
>Gura is the face of EN and the overall biggest Holo
>her song is in JP
English lyricists are not hard to find even in Japan.

>> No.6407986

>>6407962
"english"

>> No.6408011

>>6407688
the niji song sounded cool from what i remember but kinda awkward at the same time. I don't know if it was because the singers or because it was an entire english song but being Jpop.

>> No.6408068

>>6407688
She's limiting herself to a tiny niche of ultra weebs. Imagine if there was a new vsinger in Holo JP and she only sang songs in English. She'd have a low ceiling.

>> No.6408385

>>6406341
Bro, my favorite idol group maxes out at about 10-12k MV views and they somehow managed to get Mariko Goto from Midori and the lead singer of BEAT CRUSADERS to write songs for the same EP. If a self-managed group with little to no budget can manage getting names like that then Cover can find one of the endless number of producers to write and make songs for them. Finding English lyricists shouldn't be hard at all either.

>> No.6408622

>>6375790
Good, english is a shit language anyway.

>> No.6408823

>>6408385
You are missing the point. She is a famous utaite. She loves singing JP songs and wants to have her own JP song. She sounds great singing them. And it's not as if it's full JP. There are full sentences of English there. As far as I can tell, they making sure she gets both JP and EN on board without alienating anyone. Her major sales will still be in JP. Deals with music stores will still be local. They are probably aiming for her to reach the same popularity as Suisei. Suisei's EP btw is still in the Top Ten charts. It's her 2nd day there.

>> No.6408906

>>6408823
Irys just reached number 1 in the itunes JP chart. Clearly their choice to make her sing JP is a good choice. EOP are just streaming in Spotify

>> No.6409980

>>6375790
And that's a good thing for weeb stuff. You heard the EN sections of the songs, they're not good. Thank god Reflect is in JP. I have to give a little respect to Gura for not having shit taste although she's good at singing western songs as well, but that would require completely different composition styles since it doesn't match JP anime/idol/game stuff. Those will almost always come off as cringe dubbed.

>> No.6410311

>>6375790
kek
all the ironic weebs in this thread mad because she's not hardcore pandering to them from the very start.
Give her time. She'll start singing english songs soon.

>> No.6410401

People could then just listen to a Holo JP singer do the exact same thing as IRyS. The point of an EN singer, would be EN songs. That makes it meaningful, otherwise it is meaningless labels.

>> No.6410571

>>6410401
Just fucking listen to Diamond City Lights. Just stay there and never come back or whatever the pink cat released. >Muh English

>> No.6410583

>>6407443
>this board
m8, it's the doxx discords

>> No.6410641

>>6408906
itunes jp < itunes global charts. only person to push numbers internationally wasnt jpop and was primarily in english

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>>6400686

>> No.6411089

>>6410401
No, that would be like Azki. The EN means EN chuba.

>> No.6411252

all the people trying to say generic jpop is better than the litany of genres that the West is competent at making are as cringe as IRyS' insistence on calling the Myth girls senpai despite them repeatedly telling her not to

>> No.6411275

>>6408068
Wrong. Nips would absolutely love her.

>> No.6411367

>>6411252
It isn't, but as I said in >>6407688, unless they get some competent EN producers and composers, it's better if IRyS keeps using the debuff language.

>> No.6411405

>>6411275
and thats the issue. shes obviously being marketed to JP while streaming to EN. theyre trying to cater to everyone and it will instead end in fracturing her fanbase

>> No.6411486

>>6411367
3 word counterpoint: Big Red Heart. written by a 3rd grade level english speaker and its one of the best songs to come out of Hololive

>> No.6411509

The mixed english/japanese is probably the best you'll get.

>> No.6411525

>>6411486
Because Haachama is engrish master. Listen to Diamond City Lights.

>> No.6411658

>>6411525
Diamond city lights is the same quality to an english speaker as blue clapper is to a japanese speaker. its fine

>> No.6411765

>>6411486
>>6411525
Listen to her other song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mj2QJE-UOI

>> No.6414030

So why does Haachama have such great en songs? Isn't it all arguably on the producer?

>> No.6415200

>>6407688
>Until they get actual english composers

Why haven't they, yet? They've had a massively successful english branch for almost a year now, there was a lot of lead up and hype surrounding the new EN talent? Why are you defending cover for not doing the bare minimum?

>> No.6415736

>Watchs anime girls streaming
>muh english songs
retardchama...

>> No.6417245

Just listened to the full versions of the songs in the EP
It's true that they do sound like anime OPs, but each one would definitely be a top tier OP. If that was their aim, then their choice in composers was good
As for her performance, it was about as good as any other professional in the industry
I'm having a bit of hope here

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>>6375790
Good.

>> No.6417786

>>6417245
Yeah, they (music, singing) do sound production ready, i just wish these japanese pop songs weren't all fucking generic and forgettable.
It feels like i just finished listening to the one long track, but there were actually four.

>> No.6419612

>>6417786
The styles of all 4 songs are completely different and the songs themselves are well made, but they don't have any immediately memorable sections
I think the only sections that really shot out to me was the bridge in diorama and the Yuyoyuppe drops in the Caesura of Despair Attacca version
At least it lends well to background listening while working

>> No.6419717

>>6395770
Not english speaker, why do I have to listen your garbo music nigger?

>> No.6420133

>>6417279
is that Mr Clinton?

>> No.6421119

Her song is a copy of an anime song from 10 years ago. It's boring even for Japanese

>> No.6422688

They sound so generic and Jpop-ey. LIke you could hear them in an anime and then completely forget.
I guess hololive has a designated corporate anime singer now. I'm just not very amazed by it all.

>> No.6424249

>>6422688
Eh, that means she's good enough to chum out decent music of a industry-level quality.
Though I would've loved a big name

>> No.6424700

>>6375790
some anons called me crazy a few days before her debut for claiming that her songs will be in Japanese, and guess I was right

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