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63407959 No.63407959 [Reply] [Original]

What was the point of Nazuna again?

>> No.63408013

To expose Vshojo for the black company that it is
>shut the fuck up schizo
She went on a rant on her 3rd alt how Vshojo tried to force her into doing sex work

>> No.63408086

>>63408013
I'm not a Vshojo fan, but for some reason I don't think this actually happened

>> No.63408097

>>63408013
That is just her being insane again.

>> No.63408112

>>63408013
this just didn't happen though KEK

>> No.63408118

>>63408013
yeah i was the guy paying for sex

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63408168

>>63408086
Should've kept your mouth shut.

>> No.63408169

>>63408013
I believe it. (I, like Michael the Cat, also have schizophrenia.)

>> No.63408227

>>63408168
can someone translate these moonrunes?

>> No.63408281

>>63408227
You can translate them yourself.
https://twitter.com/nemuisanw/status/1725538772564246625
https://twitter.com/nemuisanw/status/1726316895778029584
You are a real fan of hers right? Then surely you follow that account.

>> No.63408287

>>63408168
EN board retard.

>> No.63408316

>>63408013
lmao, yes, of course. The company where one (1) member does sex work and another member didn't even know what Mel does on CB until recently forces its members into sex work.

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>>63408013

>> No.63408369

>>63408168
Sorry, but Mike is so crazy that I wouldn't take anything she says at face value.
Henya didn't even know what Mel does on CB until Ironmouse told her about it, Mel's CB antics are a Mel thing, not a Vshojo thing.

>> No.63408403

>>63408316
she kinda knew she just didn't processed what was going on, the realization is the best.

>> No.63408416

>>63408168
>>63408281
That wasn’t the company, that was her getting oneguyed again by a fan/anti (in Mike’s case it is hard to tell the difference sometimes).

>> No.63408423

>>63408227
"The pleasure of being cummed inside"

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63408480

>>63408168
Oh fuck its real

>> No.63408486

>>63408416
ARE YOU SAYING PEOPLE LIE ON THE INTERNET? D:

>> No.63408552

>>63408480
basically she is ONCE again getting baited by her audience. Well done, nice proof

>> No.63408582

>>63408480
...this is literally just her getting one-guy'd

>> No.63408594

>>63408480
So thats why she quit being Nazuna
Those fucking faggots in Vshojo have only themselves to blame for this
Good fucking riddance I'd say

>> No.63408636

>>63408168
This is just her getting triggered by one of her antis.

>> No.63408658

>>63408013
Here's your free (you), Schizo del Miguel Gato

Clearly nothing is ever her fault and everyone else is at fault, especially every single company that contracted her (they're all black)

>> No.63408680

>>63408013
>>63408168
>>63408480
>post proof
>proof is her getting one guyed
Yeah the typical mike fan.

>> No.63408692

>>63408480
oof

>> No.63408708

>>63408680
Why would she give a fuck that some random on the internet said he wants to hear her sucking dicks? Are you fucking stupid
>Vshojo fan
Oh wait nevermind you actually are

>> No.63408733

She was not getting one guyed. She gets those type of messages all the time.

>> No.63408737

>>63408680
She takes menhera to another level.

>> No.63408793

>>63408708
why don't you take your meds schizophrenic fuck?

>> No.63408831

>>63408733
>its not real vshojo wasn't trying to force her
>ok so its real but she was getting one guy'd
>ok that was fake she was only being harassed by vshojo fans

>> No.63408837

>>63408680
Is it a mike fan though? The bait-rrat was too ridiculous to me, even by mikefans standarts. If anything they would keep that shit to themselves, since, I imagine, stuff on that account is not meant to be shared, like content of her twitcasts. I feel like some anti or bored guy just wanted to shitstir.

>> No.63408885

>>63408013
>>63408168
You can NOT trust this woman

>> No.63408886

>>63408480
Never a dull day with this woman. I pity her fans however.

>> No.63408892

>>63408708
>Why would she give a fuck that some random on the internet said he wants to hear her sucking dicks?
I see you aren't familiar with Mikeneko.

>> No.63408905

>>63408831
The screenshot of the tweets has nothing to do with vshojo. Literally just some anti who's making shit up for some (you)s.

>> No.63408911

>>63408708
>Why would she give a fuck that some random on the internet said he wants to hear her sucking dicks? Are you fucking stupid
anon it's mike, she'd go menhera over any negativity ever pointed in her direction

>> No.63408945

>>63407959
There wasn't any point, it was a dumb decision made in the immediate aftermath of being fired.

>> No.63408989
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63408989

>>63408905
Nazuna-chan doko?

>> No.63409020

>>63408945
The only reason they picked her was because kson requested it. At this point i think even kson gave up on her

>> No.63409068

>>63408013
Vshoujo JP is NOT Vshoujo. Not the same management or anything. They are NOT representative of Vshoujo.

>> No.63409078

This is quite amusing reading corpo-drones trying to wrap their head around the concept of Talent freedom but with no avail.

>> No.63409127

>>63407959
The point was Kson being a saviorfag but she didn't actually have a plan for an actual menhera

>> No.63409128

>>63409068
Looks like Kson fucked up then. Was anything she said not a lie?

>> No.63409182

>>63409127
if anything it's a good lesson. You can't fix the mentally-ill

>> No.63409270

>>63408737
Even my SEVERELY mentally ill oshi is not that mentally ill

>> No.63409272

>>63409020
>>63409127
>>63409128
hang yourselves subhuman stinky trash eating island dwelling numberchimps

>> No.63409278

>>63409127
The plan was to fingerblast her into submission. But she didn't take into account that she could fingerblast her into being even more of a menhera.

>> No.63409302

>>63408733
People even post them here. Can't have a Mike thread without
>when's her jav debut?

>> No.63409342

>>63409272
Excuse me?

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63409353

>>63409272
he is mad

>> No.63409365

>>63409272
Are the numbers in this room with us right now?

>> No.63409381

>>63409272
lol. lmao even

>> No.63409395

>>63409272
Not a single post mentions numbers you obsessed schizo

>> No.63409438

>>63407959
>Nazuna?
>Don't post Nazuna
What is the point of this thread again?

>> No.63409447
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63409447

>>63409078
>Talent freedom
Does that include the freedom of never stream?

>> No.63409496

>>63409447
Apparently >>63408989

>> No.63409502

>>63409395
only numberfags randomly bring up kson in every thread for no reason
>>63407822
>>63403460
>>63362915
>>63358394

>> No.63409515

>>63409447
>Is being astonished that freedom includes freedom

>> No.63409520

>>63409502
>for no reason
Kson literally got her in what the fuck are you talking about

>> No.63409541

>>63409502
So what are we supposed to ignore the fact that Kson is the reason why Vshojo JP exists? Whom should we blame this on then shill-kun?

>> No.63409565

>>63409502
imagine being this mindbroken. Get a job dayo!

>> No.63409592

>>63408708
How new?

>> No.63409618

>>63408013
>post wall HAG tries to pull a #metoo
many such cases.
>>63408281
not gonna doxx myself to musk and his mossad buddies just because you're lazy at screenshotting a side-by-side translation
>Verification not required.

>> No.63409698

>>63408013
>>63408168
>>63408281
>>63408480
>>63408594
>>63408658
>>63408708
>>63408831
>>63408733
>>63408885
What is the point of doing this
I'm too lazy to click on the links(as she is literally streaming right now and I'm laying in bed trying to listen and vibe) but those tweets are from at least 2 weeks ago
Also somebody has even baited with them before
Unironically what is the purpose of doing this
How is it any fun for you
Are you just trying to pad out the catalog with slide threads?

>> No.63409811

>>63409272
Ksonfags really are the worst

>> No.63409835

>>63408737
>>63409270
you cannot out-menhera someone with BPD.
>>63409302
and? this is an anonymous imageboard, not her personal inbox
>>63409541
and? this cunt was a mistake to hire, Henya wasn't.

>> No.63409947

>>63408168
Did the pornbrained kaigais finally get under her skin? I still remember where we had a /rumina/ and half the post were coomers begging for a spicy ASMR and getting mad because they weren't getting it. Imagine acting like this towards your supposed oshi.

>> No.63410043

>>63409835
you henyafags are insufferable

>> No.63410069

>>63408480
I don't see any mention of vshojo there

>> No.63410233

>>63409835
I don’t even think of Henya as VshojoJP, Nazuna was really the only one primarily appealing to a JP audience

>> No.63410264

>>63410233
Kson still streams almost exclusively in Japanese, she's even on Youtube for it.

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>>63410043
poking hole at your narrative must suck donkey balls
>>63410233
VSJP isn't a creative entity, it's a legal one. also what this >>63410264 anon said.

>> No.63410329

>>63410264
but muhammed from the numbers thread told me that all her streams are flesh react streams in english on twitch...

>> No.63410583

>>63409128
there are apparently cons to being in vshojo after all

>> No.63410649

>>63410264
Sorta? I’d say she has more of a mixed audience if anything, especially when she was streaming more on twitch, which admittedly she hasn’t done much recently.

>> No.63410768

>>63410649
At this point I think Henya has more of a JP audience than Kson as an EN one

>> No.63410873

>>63410768
Maybe things have changed but I remember the audience being pretty mixed, guess I could he wrong though

>> No.63411069

>>63408168
>>63408480
how the fuck did Hololive manage to contain this bitch for 2 years? maybe they should bring her hack

>> No.63411526

>>63411069
or maybe they could only contain her for those 2 years...

>> No.63411880

>>63411069
They didnt...

>> No.63411917

Drunk idiot just called Mouse

>> No.63412064

>>63411917
Wrong thread, friend?
I assume you're talking about her welsh boytoy?

>> No.63412088

>>63411917
Anon?

>> No.63412154

>>63411069
They made her believe that if she lets her real personality show publicly she will risk losing it all.

>> No.63412189

>>63412154
Were they wrong?

>> No.63412209

>>63411917
tabs bro

>> No.63412241

>>63412189
Obviously not. I'm just explaining how they did it. She was even telling it to korekore during her final moments under contract.

>> No.63412517

>>63411069
Makes you wonder how bad the other girls would be if they left Hololive.

>> No.63412650

>>63411917
tabs, but also hilarious.

>> No.63412690

>>63408013
>i couldve had a japanese woman shipped to me for sex
Ok. Now im starting to see the appeal of vshojo. Based if true

>> No.63412697

>>63412517
You can just look at how they were before, and by that I mean actually look into it yourself and not just read posts from here that make up 95% of everything.

>> No.63413504

>>63411069
What are you even saying?
Nearly every holo and pretty much every streamer ever has complained about sexual harassment.

>> No.63413765

>>63413504
This but every woman in the last decade

>> No.63413824

>>63413504
I just didn't expect for Nazunas case to be the ones that are "saving" her

>> No.63413861

>>63408013
I believe it

>> No.63413893

>>63413824
Again, what?
These tweets have nothing to do with Nazuna.

>> No.63414318

>>63413893
Or VShojo staff, for that matter.

>> No.63414382

>>63414318
Then don't bite obvious anti bait?

>> No.63414628

>>63409447
>Does that include the freedom of never stream?
Yes you might be familiar with that concept from Gura and Ayame

>> No.63414682

>>63408013
>Vshojo tried to force her into doing sex work
uh, business as usual?

>> No.63414762

>>63412697
It wouldn't be the same for most of them. They're older now, and financially secure.

>> No.63414812

>>63414762
You could say the same about mike, but she hasn't changed at all.

>> No.63415393

>>63414628
dont remember gura or ayame streaming in an alt account because their corpo is forcing them to only stream on twitch anon like nazuna

>> No.63415504

>>63415393
>because their corpo is forcing them to only stream on twitch
Kson is streaming almost exclusively on youtube.
If Nazuna signed a twitch exclusivity deal then that's on her.

>> No.63415529

>>63415393
It's not "her corpo", it's "a third party", which could either be Cover, or the voices in her head.

>> No.63415898

>>63414812
This is retarded because despite some of the shit she's done she's still nowhere near as bad as what she used to be like
you are forgetting how bad NND really was

>> No.63415965

>>63415529
>tfw when you sign a contract with the voices in your head and have to fulfill their contractual obligations

>> No.63415988

>>63415393
This didn't happen. Mike is just retarded, lying, or both.

>> No.63416045

>>63415529
The third party is Twitch(JP). Shortly after her debut she literally said on stream if it was a mistake to debut and stream exclusively on Twitch. VShojo has connections with Twitch due to Gunrun being one of the founders and Loutlot (head of VShojoJP) one of the people who made TwitchJP. She was already affiliated before debuting and partnered shortly after, presumably after passing their test period. So yes, technically it's not VShojo but only technically.

>> No.63416089

>>63415898
She's both better and worse. She doesn't do as outrageous things deliberately but is more mentally ill.

>> No.63416100

>>63408168
How many fucking accounts does she have now?

>> No.63416161

>>63415898
You only think she's different because she tries to pretend for the vtuber audience. She's still the same underneath.

>> No.63416193

>>63408168
>>63408480
>>63408013
Call me a retard, i dont understand what she is teying to say. Someone explain. The rrat and the tweet dont go together, i can barely read understand that translation.

>> No.63416209

>>63416161
you know nothing about her nor her NND days aside from mtled 5ch shitposts

>> No.63416350

why is this thread even up
you guys aren't even discussing the already terrible OP and are just biting the same bait as usual wtf
has anybody even posted the actual malo she got that prompted this

>> No.63416421

>>63416193
The rrat is just a rrat.
>gets a lot of creepy comments and messages including requests for R18 content
>complains and says she is not going to it so if you are looking for R18 content go elsewhere and stop bothering her
There are coomers in every community. The tweets were not for the blatant antis sending her shit, rather for the 1/100 person who takes the antis' serious, join her membership and then make coomer comments and requests.

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>>63408281
how tf am I blocked? I never interacted with her?

>> No.63416479

>>63416209
She doesn't love you.

>> No.63416507

>>63416479
And nobody loves you.

>> No.63416549

>>63416464
Private account. You're not blocked. Now that fags are leaking her posts she's probably just going to move to a new sub.

>> No.63416551

>>63412517
Im pretty sure a couple of them will end up in JAV. Kson seems on her way to just drop a lesbian JAV one of this days.

>> No.63416560

>>63416507
Plenty of people do. You're the one that needs to send money to a woman that hates you on the internet to hear her pretend to love you.

>> No.63416569

>>63416089
yeah which is different, also a decent bit of the added mental illness is just trauma
at the very least she's still nowhere near as cunty most of the time she isn't relapsing to the point of generating masketta man type shit

>> No.63416580

>>63416464
the account is privated so you cannot view the tweets unless you are a follower

>> No.63416609

>>63416549
>>63416580
>Privated
GAY

>> No.63416621

>>63416560
I'm with that anon, nobody loves you

>> No.63416649

>>63416560
Not even your own mother loves you. You are a disappointment and her biggest regret in life.

>> No.63416657

>>63416045
remind me again why the exclusivity is still a thing even though her supposed stream quota which came with the exclusivity contract is not a thing anymore

>> No.63416705

>>63416621
>>63416649
That's a lot of projection. You're sending money to a woman that hates you.

>> No.63416727

>>63416657
Because she didn't sign up for another year with Twitch?

>> No.63416814

>>63416161
>She's still the same underneath.
You can believe whatever you want but I'm the one here who has watched almost every single stream for years while you have not, my judgement on what she is and isn't currently like is objectively better than yours
anyway I don't care to argue with you, you haven't watched her streams for like 2 years and are an unironic threadreader

>> No.63416820

>>63416727
so why was the delayed one year anniversary also on twitch?

>> No.63416855

>>63416705
You are making up shit in your head because of your lack of humanity.
That's why you are here and act the way you do.
That's why nobody loves you or wants anything to do with you.
You are a sociopath that is projecting.

>> No.63416883

>>63416705
>hates you
escalating now I see

>> No.63416895

>>63416814
Your judgement is based on all the money you've spent on her. You cannot accept that she never cared about you because that would mean you wasted 3 years of your life.

>> No.63416898

>>63416820
Are you retarded, anon?

>> No.63416970

>>63416855
>You are a sociopath that is projecting.
But that's you. You insist that everyone else must buy into the lie your favorite sociopath is selling so that you can feel like your delusion is valid.

>>63416883
You started it so you don't get to cry now.

>> No.63417055

>>63416421
>complains about R18 content
I don't get it. If she doesn't want coomers in her chat, why did she bait for them: https://x.com/ENVTubersOOC/status/1663548027796324353?s=20

>> No.63417077

>>63416970
>n-n-o y-y-you!
I'm not the one who is maliciously making shit about someone due to an almost 2 year old grudge.
You are a sociopath so the only explanation that makes sense in your fucked up head is for her to be like you.

>> No.63417079

>>63411069
>2 years
Almost 3 years.

>> No.63417120

It's funny how she fucking hates cover for fucking her over and her fans are still deepthroating yagoo and making shit up to blame random other companies for what they've done.

>> No.63417166

>>63416479
You literally cannot say that for certain.

>> No.63417167

>>63417077
I have not made up a single thing. Her actions show that she doesn't love you. What's "malicious" about pointing that out? Is it malicious because hearing that makes you feel pain? Me saying that has no effect on her.

>> No.63417169

>>63416970
>You started it so you don't get to cry now.
what the fuck are you talking about lmao, you literally did that here >>63416161

>> No.63417198

>>63416045
This is what I've been saying forever while you guys ignored me.
The problem is that her framing of it is insane. Gunrun and loutlot used their connections to get her a sweetheart deal with Twitch, which she WILLINGLY signed, later came to regret, which caused her to deflect all responsibility onto them and endlessly seethe. She's a fucking adult woman well into her 30s, she was not groomed into this contract, she did it of her own free will.
This is why I can't follow her anymore. Everything is a fucking disaster in her eyes, everyone is always persecuting her. If she had just buckled down and made a serious attempt out of this this contract instead of instantly going full bitch mode maybe Nazuna would be a hit, maybe not, but everyone involved would have been spared a massive amount of drama and bullshit.

>> No.63417233

>>63417169
Where's the escalation? I said she never changed. How is that escalation?

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63417253

>>63407959
A needed rebound character.

>> No.63417275

>>63417055
You can interact with flirting or fanservice content without being a creep. That is not an invitation to send her coomer malos.

>> No.63417308

>>63417198
She was groomed into it and it's not her fault.

>> No.63417332

>>63417198
I've noticed that many of her fans are the same. For a lot of them everything negative that happens to her is always the fault of someone else and never the consequence of her own actions.

>> No.63417377

>>63417233
Her old behavior on NND is so bad that to imply that she is the same is anti tier, and you are well aware of that
You know it'd provoke a response for you to bounce your schizo shit off of, because it always does
You are desperate to post about her

>> No.63417454

>>63417377
But one of her fans just told me that I know nothing about her past which implies she wasn't bad at all. You're saying the exact opposite thing.
Why do you always contradict each other?

>> No.63417473

>>63417167
Changing or interpreting what she has done or said from what what her intentions were = making shit up.
Which makes your actions a malicious attempt to hurt her reputation.

>> No.63417531

>>63417332
Exactly. There's a difference between giving someone a second chance, (and in her case, a third, fourth, fifth, sixth...), and being a yesman. They have a siege mentality where any criticism of her mental retardation is framed as anti behavior, even when what she's doing obviously hurts herself, her career, her fans and her colleagues.

>> No.63417555

>>63417454
because 1) a fanbase is not a monolith, do you reay need that explained 2) the other dude butt in and responded to you first but he wasn't the person you responded to with that post I linked

>> No.63417612

>>63417473
She collabed with men which is against what the vtuber fans want after pretending that she wouldn't do that kind of thing.
What she did and what her intentions were are both very clear. She pretended to be the thing the vtuber fans wanted and then turned out to not be that thing.

>> No.63417673

>>63417275
idk exactly what kind of malos she was getting, but I'm just saying don't be saying "my sexy body" if you're not comforble with malos that read "your sexy body"

>> No.63417672

>>63417555
You're DIRECTLY contradicting each other. You both would be antis according to each other.

>> No.63417691

>could the huge japanese company with a long history of fucking over their talents have a scummy noncompete and NDA to prevent them from leaving or misbehaving?
>no, clearly le evil masterminds vshojo tricked her into signing an exclusivity contract that has to be secret for some reason that only covers one specific l2d model so she can be less popular and make less money for vshojo because some of their staff used to work for twitch so they want to make twitch more popular in japan for nothing in return

>> No.63417739

>>63417612
You are again making shit up.
She literally explained her reasons for the participation in the tournament and asked her fans if it would be okay and they said in unison that it's fine.

>> No.63417786

>>63417531
it only seems that way to you because you're probably looking at the biggest schizos who support her no matter what she says or does
she's lost more of her fanbase than basically any other vtuber that was the same size as she used to be
there aren't only yesmen left(though the numbers on that aren't too bright), nor should you want that to be the case

>> No.63417823

God prude women are so hot

>> No.63417829

>>63408013
I believe women.

>> No.63417864

>>63417672
I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm pretty sure that guy just wanted to call you threadreader in an elaborate way as a predictably angry response towards the inflammatory thing you posted

>> No.63417887

>>63416551
Of course, sister.
Leaving the company will make you do porn.
Let's not count those who already do soft porn and are still inside the company.
Applies to niji too by the way

>> No.63417905

>>63417673
Of course you can. The website itself even reminds you not to send creepy shit. The malo was much worse.

>> No.63417931

>>63417691
It is rather dubious why Nazuna can't stream on Youtube yet Mikeneko can, there's something there.

>> No.63417966

>>63417739
What part of what I said was made up? She pretended to not be a male collaber for YEARS, then did several male collabs and then started up the pretense again.
>She literally explained her reasons for the participation in the tournament and asked her fans if it would be okay and they said in unison that it's fine.
>they said in unison that it's fine
Now you're the one making shit up because they threw a massive tantrum all over this board, she told them to fuck off and tried to damage control the situation by claiming that she apologized for everything. Why does she need to apologize for something they all agreed to?

>> No.63417987

>>63417786
I'm not claiming everyone is like that, just lots of them. And with this issue specifically, ironically a lot of the people who took her contract narrative at face value were some of the first to nope out after the kirsch thing.

>> No.63417990

>>63417905
oh well. Idk what people expect from anonymous messaging services like Malo. You'd think the internet would have learned its lesson ten years ago with Formspring

>> No.63418031

>>63417691
But she is in a company and streaming just fine on Youtube. There is no non-compete, that's not even an eligible non-compete in Japan.

>> No.63418069

>>63417691
Yes, it was all Covers fault!

>> No.63418133

>>63417966
EOPs not listening or understanding her casts threw a tantrum. They should have spoken out when they had a chance but they did not. So no, I am not making shit up.

>> No.63418136

>>63418031
it doesn't matter if it's legal nor not. if cover threatened vshojo they would just comply rather than go to court with the billion dollar company and then maintain a "friendly" relationship with them.

>> No.63418209

>>63418133
Akhevan is an EOP that doesn't understand her casts? Are you sure you want to go down this path?

>> No.63418251

>>63418209
And chose not to say a word in the cast, nor did he threw a tantrum.

>> No.63418303

>>63418251
He acted like he's leaving her. That's throwing a tantrum.

>> No.63418314

>>63418133
This garbage may win you arguments with catalogfags but everyone involved know many people spoke out and she did it anyway. Even threadreaders saw Vegeta's tweets.
I don't know why you do this man, imagine if you put the effort you put into arguing with le antis into learning to draw fanart for her, clipping her to shill, or anything productive at all. Instead you'd rather lie to /vt/, I don't get it.

>> No.63418483

>>63418314
It isn't a complete lie, a lot of stupid decisions happened in sequence and not all of those decisions were hers
that being said it is objectively true that she apologized

>> No.63418547

>>63408013
Lmao please be real it’s gonna be so fucking funny

>> No.63418590

>>63418483
>not all of those decisions were hers
Every single one of them were hers. Nobody else is responsible for her own actions but her. It doesn't matter if the "anticorns" said she should do something when in the end she is one that decides on what she will do.

>> No.63418772

>>63418303
He said he would need time to think about it. That's not throwing a tantrum.
>>63418314
Nobody spoke out in her cast about the subject. Vegeta's tweets were after the public announcement and stream.

>> No.63418829

>>63418772
He removed the oshi marks. That's pretending to leave and throwing a tantrum. There was no need to "think about it" if it was all okay'd before it all went down.

>> No.63418961

>>63418590
What? Look if you don't get what I'm referring to then so be it, my point was that there were some people who made dumb decisions in regards to what they communicated and where and when and how
Of course the ultimate decision was hers in the end, if it wasn't there wouldn't be any reason to apologize in the first place
but that doesn't change the fact that more than 1 person did something that was probably less than optimal in hindsight

>> No.63419010

>>63418829
No, he left for the time being to think everything over. That is not throwing a tantrum.
What are you even trying to argue? That she should do the impossible, listen to and please everybody?

>> No.63419045

>>63419010
He needed an apology to come back. You're making up shit.

>> No.63419091

>>63419010
She should not do retarded shit that blows up in her face and achieves nothing. But for mikeneko, that is also doing the impossible.

>> No.63419179

>>63414628
I see, Gura and Ayame are examples of talent freedom. Why does people want that again?

>> No.63419184

>>63418961
The only person that matters when she does something is herself. If someone tells her to say "fuck unicorns" that's not the fault of the person who told her to say that, it's her fault for choosing to listen to that person.

>> No.63419207

>>63419045
???
>>63419091
Why should she expect that to blow up and achieve nothing?

>> No.63419286

>>63419091
You're sort of implying here that the apex shit would have been fine if it didn't "blow up in her face and achieves nothing"(i.e. if she hadn't gotten NGd) which I feel kinda misses the point of why it was actually bad

>> No.63419322

>>63416045
>>63417198
Nazuna debuted as an affiliate (the basic monetized tier which only requires an average CCV of -3- and like 50 followers or something low like that, also affiliates have NEVER had exclusivity, big Youtubers would sit at affiliate tier forever because it meant they could continue to stream on Youtube) and it took months for her and kson to get partner (the real monetized Twitch tier for people who make money, this used to have exclusivity until right around when Nazuna debuted). She got no special deal at all. Twitch DOES have a special program they use sometimes when pre-existing big creators sign on, where they will instantly give partner status to them before they even stream once. Nazuna didn't get that, while Henya, Matara, and Kuro did, and none of them are prevented from streaming on Youtube.

Now compare her situation with kson. She also debuted on Twitch as an affiliate, which she achieved prior to streaming once, literally the exact same situation as Nazuna, and she became a partner right after Nazuna did, and at no time was kson unable to stream on Youtube.

So when Vshojo gets their members special Twitch deals, they can stream on Youtube. And when Vshojo is not involved and doesn't get you a special Twitch deal and you instead deal directly with Twitch themselves, you can still stream on Youtube. So through logical deduction, if something is stopping her from streaming on Youtube, it isn't one of those two.

>> No.63419335

>>63419207
How about the multiple people telling her that, who she ignored and treated like antis, only for them to be ultimately vindicated?
How about simply keeping the promises she made in the past?
Better to throw everything away for a chance at fame.

>> No.63419421

>>63419184
No, it's also the fault of a few dozen to hundreds of people telling her to say "fuck unicorns", in addition to unicorns attacking her for her decision later on.
Humans aren't above the influence of what others say or how they are treated.

>> No.63419508

>>63419421
>it's also the fault of a few dozen to hundreds of people telling her to say "fuck unicorns"
Nope. It's entirely her fault for choosing to act on the call. If she was the person you claim her to be, she wouldn't act on things like that at all.
All you're saying is that she actually has no commitments to unicorns or loving you and will instead do what seems like the most popular option.

>> No.63419555

>>63419421
especially mentally ill people are pretty susceptible to that stuff

>> No.63419629

>>63419286
Well, I don't believe that.
>>63419322
I don't buy this, it's just that whatever deal Nazuna got was different from the standard that other streamers, and even other VShojo members, get.
What do you think happened? The mysterious Holo exclusivity contract that is probably legally unenforceable, she probably wouldn't comply with anyway, applies specifically to Nazuna but not Mike, and contradicts her own statements on why she had to stream on Twitch? Or evil Gunrun and loutlot torturing her for no reason?

>> No.63419733

>>63419555
If she's so mentally ill she can't see the problems her promises will create, maybe she shouldn't be streaming on either Youtube or Twitch, but rather committed to a mental asylum.

>> No.63419789

>>63419322
Firstly, you are talking about Twitch and not TwitchJP. Secondly, Kson and Nazuna don't have the same contract. Thirdly, Nazuna literally said she had the option not to debut and stream exclusively on Twitch and that was said even before any drama whatsoever had happened. It's not non-compete or anything like that. So through logical deduction, since she wasn't at that time involved with any other company, TwitchJP is the only option that remains.

>> No.63419805

>>63419733
Bro you're being an anti! She will DIE if she can't stream to the love of her life!

>> No.63419900

>>63407959
>What was the point of Nazuna again?
It's very simple
Vshojo's popularity was because they swooped up a bunch of popular to moderately popular streamers and put them under one brand and was successful at it. With two popular Holos leaving, they thought they could capture lightning in a bottle and do the same thing for the JP market without realizing that JP Holofans largely live within they Holo box, there's already 30+ other Holos live within the same time slots. Only the core fans of Kson and Mikeneko who followed them to their PL followed them to Vshojo.

>> No.63419933

>>63419733
Who would that help
Certainly not herself given she doesn't want that and you'd need to do it by force
Certainly not the remainder of her fans who would probably suffer just as much if not more from her being away
Unironically who would even benefit?

>> No.63420008

>>63419933
Why is what she wants important now but not when she wants to interact with men?

>> No.63420046

>>63411069
Good genmates and colleagues, stimulating environment, growth. Nothing will ever compare to 2019-2021 HoloJP.

>> No.63420050

>>63419900
I think their question was "Why did she join VShojo as Nazuna and not Mikeneko in the first place?"

>> No.63420084

>>63419508
I don't think you fully understand just how schizo she was at that time
she does have commitments but she also wants to be loved by her fans and she was getting delusional to the level of thinking that it was already over and that this would be the thing to finally bring her fans back. She more or less said the latter.
Was it absolutely positively reality-denying levels of mental illness?
Absolutely
It wasn't the cold disregard you're suggesting it was though

>> No.63420111

>>63419933
It's not a literal suggestion. What I'm saying is that if you blame everything on mental illness she's just a lost cause, she's too insane to ever recover. It's not a good excuse at this point.

>> No.63420224

>>63419508
I never claimed her not to act on things like that? She has the commitment to her unicorns and greatly loves her fans, that doesn't contradict any of her actions. She thought because her unicorns care and love her so much they would be understanding of the situation. That's why she asked explained and asked for feedback. How many posts about it did you see after the cast and before the public announcement? That's right 0 because nobody objected to it. At most, a few people tweeted they would need time to sort out their feelings and think about it.

>> No.63420238

>>63420008
I was asking you who would benefit from it
Also why are you comparing online text messages to literally physically forcing somebody into an institution they refuse to willingly go to

>> No.63420369

>>63420050
she may be a raving menhera but she's still a shrewd opportunity, Vshojo would own Mikeneko merch rights as long as she's a member

>> No.63420385

>>63420084
If she acts against her commitments on a suggestion, she wasn't committed to begin with.

>>63420224
>I never claimed her not to act on things like that?
Exactly. You claimed she will act if someone tells her to do something.
>>63420224
>She has the commitment to her unicorns and greatly loves her fans, that doesn't contradict any of her actions
This is clearly untrue. According to you anyone can tell her "tell your fans to fuck off" and she will say it. This means she does not love you and is not committed to her unicorns.

>> No.63420391

>>63417691
ah yes because a jap company somehow managed to threaten a western company but was unable to threaten mike when she stream as an indie despite being a jap

>> No.63420404

this thread belongs in a psychologist's research paper holy fuck.

>> No.63420475

>>63420369
* opportunist

>> No.63420549

>>63420385
Are you autistic or unable to process rational thoughts and arguments?

>> No.63420561

>>63420111
>everything
I definitely don't blame everything on it, generally it only really makes sense to account for it when it comes to her most extreme behaviors given how they usually accompany many other symptoms at the time

>> No.63420577

>>63420238
She would benefit from it. She doesn't even need to be locked up. She just needs to go offline.

>> No.63420683

>>63420549
Nothing you said is rational. Everything is always someone else's fault but she is secretly deeply in love with you despite constantly saying the opposite.

>> No.63420693

>>63419629
>it's just that whatever deal Nazuna got was different from the standard that other streamers
What I'm saying is that Nazuna got literally no deal at all. She got the same thing that any other streamer can get, and any other streamer can use Youtube. There was nothing special happening. She got affiliate which is easy to get, then after a couple months she applied for partner and got it like any other streamer can.
>The mysterious Holo exclusivity contract that is probably legally unenforceable
Doesn't matter. Loutlot said he talks to HoloNiji staff behind the scenes a lot and he wouldn't want to go to court and damage that relationship. Going to court sucks even if you know that you have a slam dunk case and are guaranteed to win. I've done it before.
>>63419789
>Firstly, you are talking about Twitch and not TwitchJP
No I'm not, read the whole post. I mention kson who dealt directly with TwitchJP staff on her own when she got affiliate.
>Nazuna literally said
I don't care what she says. What she says directly contradicts reality, so she was likely just mistaken. Kson was confused about those details too and there's a popular clip of her talking to Nazuna about Twitch's contract and she's completely wrong about everything she's saying. I'm only looking at the facts.
>Kson and Nazuna don't have the same contract
There is no evidence of what their contracts are besides kson stating that the JP contracts are different than the EN ones, and that implies that kson and Nazuna have similar ones.

>> No.63420756

>>63420369
Pretty sure Merch doesn't HAVE to go through VShojo, they just get a cut from the merch that does.
Mouse has Apari merch that isn't Vshojo based, I don't think, and Mel has the...tube.

>> No.63420904

>>63420385
>If she acts against her commitments on a suggestion, she wasn't committed to begin with
If she feels that her fans are basically gone(very schizo, even thinking it now would be very schizo), it should be obvious to understand how that might influence her comprehension of the commitment
if the "person" she made a promise to is basically gone, she would be far more worried about bringing "them" back than keeping a promise that would seem almost pointless under such a mental contortion

>> No.63420952

>>63420577
She has literally never benefitted from being offline before.

>> No.63421004

>>63420904
What you're describing is her giving up on the con that kept that person around, which is what happened. She even told you that she only likes you for your money.

>> No.63421009

>>63420683
You are not even trying to make sense now. Responsibility almost never solely lies with one person, kids usually learn that in kindergarten. All you do is deflect everything by trying to find loopholes or straight up making shit up.

>> No.63421026

>>63420693
it would not being the first time nazuna said somethig just to "clarify" it later on stream. Like the time she said she was blocked of playing HP and later she said "staff suggested" to not play it.

>> No.63421051

Making my dick hard and having recurrent melting downs.

>> No.63421104

>>63421026
That's more of an issue of not carefully choosing words rather than just being wrong about something.

>> No.63421118

>>63420693
Even if what you're saying is true, it doesn't change what's important: mike is at fault.
Mike wants to stream as Nazuna on Twitch. She asks loutlot about it, and he tells her that it's NG. It's not his contract, it's a contract she signed with somebody else, but he has to tell her the truth. And because mike is a lunatic, or just being a bitch, she shoots the messenger and blames this on loutlot and enters her 9,001st menhera arc where she acts like VShojo is sabotaging her.
It literally doesn't matter if the contract in question was with Holo or TwitchJP. It wasn't with VShojo, they don't care and in fact support her using whatever platform she performs best on. But she blames it on them because she either cannot or (more likely) refuses to distinguish between why this happened and who's telling her it's NG.

>> No.63421132

>>63421009
She is the only one resposinble for her own actions. If she truly loves unicorns it shouldn't matter how many people tell her to say she hates them if she really doesn't hate them.

>> No.63421189

>>63420683
Anon literally today she asked for permission from her fans to talk about Mikey from Tokyo Revengers out of worries about jealousy from absolutely fucking nowhere, those are the kind of random in the moment brain worms a person can only get if they care to at least some degree
she does care she's just a fucking schizo too, it's not like those two are mutually exclusive

>> No.63421193

>>63408708
>Why would she give a fuck that some random on the internet said
Do you have any idea who you're talking about

>> No.63421240

>>63421004
>She even told you that she only likes you for your money.
Wait wait wait, hold up. She said the exact opposite back then what the fuck?

>> No.63421272

>>63421189
And over the past year she has appeared together with males as well as played with men behind the scenes without anyone's permission.
She doesn't give a shit. She is merely making you believe she does.

>> No.63421333

>>63421026
she never even said she was blocked from playing it in the original tweet, people just blew it absolutely out of proportion here

>> No.63421338

>>63421240
No, that's you mischaracterizing what she said. She told you to fuck off because she doesn't need your money. That means she only liked you for your money.

>> No.63421345

>>63420693
>I don't care what she says. What she says directly contradicts reality, so she was likely just mistaken. Kson was confused about those details too and there's a popular clip of her talking to Nazuna about Twitch's contract and she's completely wrong about everything she's saying. I'm only looking at the facts.
>There is no evidence of what their contracts are besides kson stating that the JP contracts are different than the EN ones, and that implies that kson and Nazuna have similar ones.
How does that contradict reality or how is she 'wrong' if her contract is different from kson? If anything, that implies they have different contracts.
Nazuna decided to take the exclusivity TwitchJP deal, kson didn't or wasn't given one.

>> No.63421404

>>63421118
>because mike is a lunatic, or just being a bitch, she shoots the messenger and blames this on loutlot
>But she blames it on them because she either cannot or (more likely) refuses to distinguish between why this happened and who's telling her it's NG.
I can't confirm if that's the thing that Mike is mad about or who she blames. I can only say with certainty that it is Cover, Mike knows about it, and I want her fans to stop defending them and blaming the wrong guys.

>> No.63421453

>>63421189
Do you not recognize the contradiction between being worried her fans will be jealous over a fictional character, and basing a decision to shoot unicorns in the dick on one twitcast and one call with prominent unicorns?
She just does whatever justifies whatever she wants to do at the moment.

>> No.63421457

>>63421132
No, again, for the nth time, humans act in the spur of the moment based on how they are treated.
If you have a dozen unicorns attacking you, it is natural to say things that would hurt them in return.

>> No.63421478

>>63416045
But Twitch hasn't had exclusivity clauses for partners in years

>> No.63421524

>>63421272
she actually hasn't done the latter in a very long while now, ever since that drama about it. If there's anything she didn't break again yet it's that part.
if she didn't give a shit she wouldn't constantly break down over losing fans it's really that simple

>> No.63421544

>>63421478
Twitch is not TwitchJP.

>> No.63421565

>>63421345
>Nazuna decided to take the exclusivity TwitchJP deal
But she didn't. Twitch got rid of their exclusivity. Her friend Giri who is in the OP streams on 3 platforms simultaneously now, Twitch, Youtube, and Twitter.

>> No.63421594

>>63421524
She did the latter just this year. If she was committed to you she would have never done that, but it still happened.

>> No.63421652

>>63419629
>contradicts her own statements on why she had to stream on Twitch?
But there has never once been a concrete explanation from anyone. The most we have is that it's due to "a third party," from Loutlot.

It's a complete enigma. Nobody knows why Nazuna can't stream on YouTube. There's no evidence for any realistic or credible answer.

>> No.63421658

>>63421338
first of all
>because
there was no because, they were two seperate statements
secondly, even if there was a because(there was not), this would still be the reach of all reaches

>> No.63421659

>>63421594
Why are you ignoring everything that people say and just repeat your headcanon?

>> No.63421694

>>63421404
If mike knows about it, she doesn't care and pretends otherwise. And because of that, her fans blame VShojo. This is the root of the problem, not wherever the contract originated.

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>>63421652
>Nobody knows why Nazuna can't stream on YouTube.
Some of us do.

>> No.63421766

>>63421658
"Fuck off, I don't need your money" reversed is "I love you, I need your money".
The argument that she told you to fuck off but didn't mean it while also telling you that she doesn't need your money and DID mean it is ridiculous.

>> No.63421784

>>63421544
they are the same company anon, stop coping

>> No.63421786

>>63421594
she'd never even promised to not play with men behind the scenes post-termination until that drama I described is the problem. She did it as Rushia but it was only then that she had done it again.

>> No.63421813

>>63420369
>Vshojo would own Mikeneko merch rights
No, they have a license to the merch rights. VShojo does not have any control or ownership over anything regarding their talents' IP.

VShojo talents are wholly capable of producing merch with third-parties outside of VShojo.

>> No.63421824

>>63421784
Different regions have different contacts, anon.

>> No.63421872

>>63421694
That's true I suppose.

>> No.63421888

>>63421824
The way the site functions is the same across the globe. Partners are not exclusive and haven't been for years.

>> No.63421897

>>63421659
What part of what I said is headcanon?

>>63421786
Why are you acting like Rushia is a completely different person? She said it as Rushia and didn't keep her promise.

>> No.63421920

>>63421652
This contract also supposedly came with a quota, which she has demonstrably alluded to many times. So that only really leaves two possibilities, unless mike just made it up, and only one of them makes any sense at all.

>> No.63421924

>>63421766
>The argument that she told you to fuck off but didn't mean it while also telling you that she doesn't need your money and DID mean it is ridiculous.
My argument is that she didn't mean either of those things and that both of them are retarded because she has literally mentioned money worries several times since then so she very clearly DOES need the money, the money statement was a separate statement though

>> No.63421954

>>63421404
It's not Cover and Mike never blamed VShojo for the Twitch exclusivity.

>> No.63421985

>>63421924
So she only panders to you because she believes that's what gets her money. Thanks for the confirmation.

>> No.63422003

Nazuna can stream on youtube. She's just a fucking idiot and misunderstood simulstream clauses at the time.

>> No.63422012

>>63421920
>quota
This rrat was slain time and again and even by Nazuna herself directly on-stream.
The idea of a "quota" came from one of her stream titles where she used the word ノルマ
It was, in fact, referring to some sort of goal she needed to grind out in Apex (which she was playing during that stream)

>> No.63422068

>>63421897
>Why are you acting like Rushia is a completely different person? She said it as Rushia and didn't keep her promise
I'm aware of that, retard. A million times more than you are. My point was simply to say that at the very least she's not broken that promise since it came to a head. That's all.

>> No.63422095

>>63422012
It wasn't just one time. She said it repeatedly, something like half a dozen times.

>> No.63422137

>>63422095
All in Apex streams. And then the quota magically vanished when her new model finished.

>> No.63422151

>>63421985
based retard

>> No.63422149

>>63422068
>she didn't break her promise because she hadn't made that promise yet under that name but she loves me!
Fucking mental

>> No.63422164

>>63422095
Yeah and at no point was she referring to a streaming quota

>> No.63422174

>>63422012
>rrat
>slain by Nazuna directly on-stream
Why do you think people made comments about the quota? She 'denied' the quota to get chat to shut the fuck up about it.

>> No.63422201

>>63422095(me)
I do admit she contradicted herself and said there was no quota, but then referenced it again in a later stream. Unless she was just memeing or something by that point, my JP isn't good enough to detect subtleties.

>> No.63422226

>>63422149
>she didn't break her promise
who are you quoting
I'm saying she hasn't done it again

>> No.63422258

>>63422174
>Why do you think people made comments about the quota?
because the stream was titled something about her apex quota and then people asked why she had a stream quota and she said she didn't

>> No.63422270

>>63422226
But she did do it again several times and last time was just a few months ago.

>> No.63422323

>>63422012
No, it's from a Mike mengen twitcast and a Nazuna Minecraft stream. It's not a rrat.

>> No.63422391

>>63422323
Someone should remind her about her quota she hasn't streamed in 3 months

>> No.63422410

>>63422226
>who are you quoting
I hate this shit. People have been modifying quotes before greentexting ever existed. Don't you have a bathroom to blow up or something?

>> No.63422411

>>63422174
>>63422323
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=%E3%82%A8%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9A%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9%E3%83%8E%E3%83%AB%E3%83%9E

>muh mengens
Shut the fuck up, I am so fucking tired of hearing how Mike confirmed everything her fans think is true in a mengen that they're not allowed to share

Just shut the fuck up

>> No.63422426

>>63422270
okay, the number of times she has been under that promise with it having been broken has been once instead of twice
but you know what I meant and are just being a pedant about this
I'm tired and didn't sleep all night so I'm going to bed, fuck off and find someone else to play with

>> No.63422509

>>63422391
But she didn't sign the same contract again because she changed to focus on her activities as Mikeneko.

>> No.63422520

>>63422410
>Don't you have a bathroom to blow up or something?
what

>> No.63422550

>>63422426
She has been under that promise since 2019. It didn't magically get undone when she got fired from hololive and then just not exist until you sperged out at her enough for her to finally reiterate that to you so that you don't stop giving her money.

>> No.63422605

>>63422411
Anon, it was used outside the context of apex or gaming in general.

>> No.63422702

>>63422509
contract negotiations were in april and she memed about her apex quota after that. twitch does not have monthly contracts. if she had a quota she would still have that obligation now.
>>63422605
she literally said she doesn't have a quota.

>> No.63422728

>>63422702
>she said she has a quota
>she said she doesn't have a quota
Who are you going to believe? Mike, or mike?

>> No.63422785

>>63422605
Nobody was talking about quotas until that Apex title.

If she really did talk about having a quota in some other context, post the clip.

>> No.63422878

>>63422550
It quite literally did when she told people so.
She talked about playing apex with friends many times. Everybody knew about that from the get go. Your and some schizos understanding of what that promise comprised is different from hers.

>> No.63422939

>>63422728
she said she had an apex quota, meaning she had to grind ranked points to rank up. she said she didn't have a stream quota.

>> No.63423062

>>63422728
Trust nobody, not even your(bipolar)self.
Or was it Borderline Personality? I can never remember which she has.

>> No.63423218

>>63422702
The quota started after the twitcast which was in January shortly after the release of her first original song as Mikeneko.
The Nazuna Minecraft stream might have been in February. I don't remember but it was long before April.
>>63422939
That's the joke, anon. It was like a snide remark about her quota but she didn't want chat to make comments about it.
Some chatters just didn't get the joke.

>> No.63423303

>>63423218
you guys started the quota shit after an apex stream. i was there watching it.

>> No.63423434

>>63423303
People had already talked about the quota months before the apex stream.
Why weren't you there watching it?

>> No.63423617

>>63423434
>People had already talked about the quota months before the apex stream.
Me when I make shit up

>> No.63423693

>>63422878
>She talked about playing apex with friends many times.
And you were in denial about those friends being men because you said she promised to not play with men because she loves you. Turns out it was all lies.

>> No.63423742

>>63419900
not op, does she even make GFE content at this point?, or she only leans towards it slightly to keep the illusion?

>> No.63423739

>>63423434
Where were they talking?
I can't find any evidence of it being mentioned in /lumina/ between Jan and May '23.
Well technically there was one person speculating about a quota as Nazuna streams started to dwindle >>46556407

>> No.63423752

>>63423693
No, she literally told everything about who the guy is?

>> No.63423815

>>63423752
Then why were you in denial about it?

>> No.63423847

>>63423815
But I wasn't?

>> No.63423936

>>63423847
You were. Summer of 2022 was nothing but denial about her playing with men. Anyone that implied she's playing with a man got shouted down and called a schizo.

>> No.63424043

>>63423936
Our memories differ anon. Some people (you?) flipped out as soon as she started playing Apex, seething began when it became clear she wasn't solo queuing, but anyone who cared about that stuff and payed attention knew she was playing with guys.
There were certainly fights about it but what do you want, thread was a shitshow.

>> No.63424132

>>63423936
But I wasn't? The only things that were getting shouted down were stalker schizos and people talking about member exclusive topics which was basically almost everything. So if you saw posts about that then that is your reason or EOP thread readers like yourself.

>> No.63424175

>>63423742
Her content is extremely heavy GFE. It has never not been.

>> No.63424301

>>63420404
> this thread belongs in a psychologist's research paper holy fuck.
Getting the same impression on every Mikeneko thread on this board.
I don't even follow her, but I definitely follow these threads. S++ prime entertainment, no need to be an anti either.

>> No.63424309

>>63423742
>>63424175
There are 雑談 streams all the time that are not particularly GFE heavy or GFE at all but GFE is still her main content.

>> No.63424540

>>63424301
They're actually mostly shit.
/jp/ thread was good. Early /lumina/ was good because it was mostly the same people. Things got shitty when she joined VShojo but the killing blow was when she started admitting she reads her threads, which caused huge amounts of fags to flood in and fight constantly/run psyops and other people to either stop posting or modulate what they wrote.

>> No.63424654

>>63424301
been checking these threads and a certain psychiatric ward escapee ensures they hit bump limit as long as he keeps getting (You)s
I would applaud his dedication if it wasn't so sad but at least we are getting something out of it

>> No.63424671

>>63424043
>when it became clear she wasn't solo queuing
The threads were in mass denial about her playing with anyone. Here's one of them >>/jp/thread/39787465

>>63424132
>But I wasn't?
You were.
>The only things that were getting shouted down were stalker schizos and people talking about member exclusive topics which was basically almost everything.
Wrong. There was a persistent atmosphere to suppress anyone daring to even imply that she might be playing with a man.

>> No.63424863

>>63424671
That's not summer?
Her saying she plays alone at that time should be for obvious reasons (in case you don't get it - schizos like you), when the situation had calmed down more she openly talked about everything.

>> No.63424908

>>63424175
>>63424309
Asked those questions because i distanced myself from her since she lashed out at the viewers for warning her about the two faggot grifters, it's nice to know she didn't change that part of her content, but still she's too volatile for me.

>> No.63424929

>>63424671
>>>/jp/thread/39787465
In it, voted 5.
However, I disagree with your characterization of what's going on there. Anons cannot even agree if playing with a guy is okay or not.

>> No.63424935

>>63424863
The threads were like this all the way up until she want onto Kirsch's totsu. Pure denial that she would ever play with a man.

>> No.63425036

>>63418829
He never even removed her oshi marks until she had already been removed from the tournament. He took them off and changed his profile picture on Twitter the day after she did the meltdown Twitcasts where she reflexively blamed her English speaking kaigai fans for getting removed from the tournament and talked shit about them. He was gone for about a month after that.

>> No.63425076

>>63424935
>pure denial
Selective perception
>>/jp/thread/39787465#p39787986

>> No.63425270

>>63425076
This is called cope posted by someone that has come to the logical conclusion that she was not playing alone and is trying to justify it pre-emptively. The replies to that post are
>it's just a schizo saying she is playing with a man
>it didn't happen but it wouldn't matter if it did
and
>she said she's playing solo so she is playing solo
Nobody is acccepting that she is currently playing apex with her male friends.

>> No.63425498

>>63425076
It's interesting how you have this post, and the guy just ignores it and drops this >>>/jp/39788151, again pushing this narrative that everyone is in denial minutes after someone admitted it's possible.
And now he's back here, still doing the same fucking thing, nearly a year an a half later, timelooping a dead argument from a dead thread in a dead board. Assuming he was ever a fan, I wonder at what point he turned into an anti, if it was mafu or something else.

>> No.63425562

>>63425270
You don't seem to understand what cope means, nor the replies. Again, you are interpreting things in ways to fit your narrative of events.
You don't even seem to be able to understand why people would want to avoid talking about that even though the answer is right in front of you.

>> No.63425680

>>63425562
Are you ok with her playing with men?
>why people would want to avoid talking about that
So you admit that you were trying to shut down people talking about it.

>> No.63425828

>>63425680
>So you admit that you were trying to shut down people talking about it.
>Again, you are interpreting things in ways to fit your narrative of events.
Hilarious.
bumb limit so あばよ〜

>> No.63425887

>>63425828
That's literally what happened and you even said it yourself. You don't want to talk about her playing with men after saying she's playing alone because that would make her a liar

>> No.63426427

>>63425887
nta, you know like what after happened in feb.. is not kind of obvious she and everyone wouldn't want to give antis or shitposters like you something to try to stir up drama with?
>she is playing with men!
like you are trying right now

>> No.63426483

>>63426427
>let's pretend that she's not playing with men so that antis can't say she's playing with men
This is called denial.

>> No.63426603
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63426603

Whoop whoop

>> No.63426767

>>63426483
sort of but not for the reason you claimed it to be and that is what the anon was getting at
more like so antis don't say retarded shit like
>they are totally dating! see she doesn't care about you!

>> No.63426859

>>63426767
But it is indicative that she doesn't care about you. She lies to you and then goes on to play video games with a man.

>> No.63426900

>>63407959
She got roped in and conned by Kson

>> No.63427209

>>63426859
my bad.. i shouldn't have been kind enough to point out the obvious
i think you need to work more on your communication skills and cognition of social cues before you attempt to analyze the actions of others

>> No.63427346

>>63427209
She does not care about you and you want to hide that fact from the public.

>> No.63427573

>>63427346
hey man, you really need to learn how to like read the room, the understanding of circumstances and shit.. and not take everything to literal
that's all i'm gonna say.. i'm outta here

>> No.63427718

>>63427573
This is literally what I was talking about. the cuckcold club mentality that everyone has to "read the room" and not talk about anything negative so that nobody gets too uncomfortable as the the delusion falls apart

>> No.63428024

>>63408168
>>63408480
i wish they had forced kson to do it instead

>> No.63428108

>>63424654
I found him >>63427718 What do I win?
>>63425562
>interpreting things in ways to fit your narrative
Spot on, lmao.

>> No.63428179

As this thread dies, I would like to remind everyone that rushiaschizo is a proven nignog

>> No.63428287

>>63428108
What's the true narrative? Your buddy here literally said exactly what I said. You are trying to desperately control the public narrative when mikeneko, who doesn't love you, goes off to play around with men.

>> No.63428462 [DELETED] 

>>63428287
Rushiaschizo, fucking kill yourself, you waste of human space
You're timelooping some shit from over a year and a half ago because you don't have dirt on her right now. Just admit it and admit the world would be a better place without you and kill yourself, you fucking schizo

>> No.63428563

>>63428287
The other anon >>63426427 literally explained it to you but you are yet again trying to twist things into something they are not.
You already got called out for it multiple times so stop it. You are only embarrassing yourself.

>> No.63428574

>>63428462
This is being timelooped because your fellow cucks denied ever having been in denial, you dumbcuck.
How many more male collabs is it going to take until you wake up? She already told you that she only likes you for your money.

>> No.63428634

>>63428563
>don't talk about bad thing because it makes her look bad
This is called denial.

>> No.63428673

>>63416193
she's complaining about antis in chat or twitter or whatever she does it all the time

>> No.63428742

>>63428574
This is being timelooped because you have no fucking life and you are a disgrace to the human race. Nobody's fault but yours. Kill yourself, trash.
You've been doing this for nearly two years because you're a failure of a human being who will never amount to anything, you are human garbage and your life is fucking worthless
Will you be on your deathbed wishing that you spent more time shitting on Mikeneko on /vt/? Worthless scum.

>> No.63428817

Since this is the only thread about her, I just want to say that I'm getting really fucking sick of her "otaku talk". Just shut the fuck up about Tokyo Revengers for one stream and flirt with your fans.

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