/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Now the collab choices fiasco has settled, do you feel she's redeemed herself? Do you like her now?

[Anonymous No.]

There’s nothing to redeem, she never did anything wrong

[Anonymous No.]

TWO MORE WEEKS SISTERS
TWO MORE WEEKS

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>>63356705
She never did anything wrong, she's just an autist who worded "please don't bother me for collabs because I don't collab" in the most retarded way possible. Like seriously this girl doesn't collab outside of Advent unless someone else from advent is there as well, and she never sets up any collabs.

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>>63357098
>Like seriously this girl doesn't collab outside of Advent unless someone else from advent is there as well, and she never sets up any collabs.
She literally did this to make you think that's what she meant. Basically fucked up her growth in 3 ways in no time at all, it's incredible:
>ended debut with huge red flag
>long break soon after debuting
>tried to cover up her debut fuckup by pretending she's shy and too autistic to collab with someone on her own, even though she CLEARLY gets on with fucking everyone in EN with great chemistry and no nerves at all. She knows she fucked up which is why she's always in VC to make up for not having solo collabs.

She could've got a lot more fans if she collabed with Fauna, Mumei or IRyS on her own so their fans could see she's actually cool, but she needs to maintain her collab choices lie. She 100% meant she wanted to collab with males and her faggot clique, checked /vt/ after her debut, panicked, then did whatever she could to pretend that wasn't the case.

[Anonymous No.]

i'm more sad that people never saw how much their 'ideal shiori' was in nerissa - the whorewife archetype

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>>63357464
This post reeks of massive sister cope, I can smell the desperation and un-corrected pussy coming from it. She's a massive fucking autist, you can't fake that, unless you mean to tell me that Shiori should win an an award for her acting skills or something.

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>>63357464
>My schizo delusions are her fault actually
just take some responsibility for once.

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>>63357464
>Sister: Clearly gets along with everyone in EN
>Has barely collabed with anyone outside her Gen
>Has never collabed with anyone without an advent member there
>Sports festival
You a clip watcher or something?

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>>63356705
It won't be settled until she clarifies her statement. It will go on forever.

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>>63356705
I guess it's cool that she didn't end up collabing with shitty indie males or anything like that, but overall her personality doesn't quite do it for me either way. She's okay but I'm more interested in enough other holos that I'm completely occupied. Mostly the idol leaning ones, it's what I'm here for really.

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>>63357734
I've seen her chat with most of EN and she gets on really well with ALL of them. Even the fucking twins have warmed to her. Why would someone with a vast history of collabs (of all kinds) suddenly get shy now? She fucked up and is pretending to be an awkward shy little girl who can't collab. This would not have been the case if she didn't have her woman moment on day 1 and you know I'm right.

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>>63358050
The schizo part of your post is the idea that someone who gives a shit about what /vt/ thinks would have wanted to collab with homos in the first place.

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>>63358050
>Even the fucking twins have warmed to her.
Of course, they're in the same Gen and probably know each other longer.
>Why would someone with a vast history of collabs (of all kinds) suddenly get shy now
Because she wants to do her own thing and doesn't want to collab, simple as. It's not hard to wrap your head around sister.
>She fucked up and is pretending to be an awkward shy little girl who can't collab.
She doesn't pretend she can't collab, she simply has no interest in them and will only collab with her gen or if someone in her gen is there. i.e she doesn't care for them.
>you know I'm right
I know you're coping

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>>63356705
Sisters are making up such wild fanfics to explain away the reason their "Unicorn Killer" Shiori hasn't collabed with, or even acknowledge, the stars. It's like that time she said thanks on twitter to the fagyon and the sisters pretended it was a full blown conversation and that they where planning a collab.

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>>63358050
>twins have warmed to her
This is how I know you don't watch streams fwmc have loved shiori since day 1

[Anonymous No.]

Holy schizos

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>>63357098
this
she’s just autistic

[Anonymous No.]

You may join the council, but we do not grant you the rank of cute girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>About to head into december
>scorned unicorns, sisters and dramafaggots still continue to believe Shiori will do anything with le males.
This is just like the first 4 months of Fauna and Mumei, when did /vt/ eventually turn around on them again? Or has everyone memoryholed that time already?

[Anonymous No.]

Why is the catalog always spammed with Shiori threads on Sundays?

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>>63358308
Don't forget the troons also pushed this shit ship all over Leddit.

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>>63357464
Genuine mental illness

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>>63358472
Kiara isn't even a member of the council

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>>63358528
Its like they've honed in on Shiori and they can't let go and accept she was never theirs to begin with. They keep bringing up "muh past life collabs" like nigga
>Kiara
>Gura

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>>63358172
>Because she wants to do her own thing and doesn't want to collab, simple as.
Why fucking join Hololive then? How can she not do her own thing for 4/5 streams and have 1 stream be a collab like a normal person? Can you not see how strange this behavior is?
>She doesn't pretend she can't collab, she simply has no interest in them
Yet she's in every open VC, even during times she said she'll be resting or working on background stuff. Funny how someone so social just wants to be on their own and do their own thing...it's nothing to do with maintaining the lie...surely?

Novelites are actually so blind. I actually like Shiori believe it or not, I just don't fall for her cuck shit and keep a healthy distance. I will laugh at you when the day comes. We've all warned you.

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>>63358495
Post NijiYab rage, after failing miserably the NDF needed someone to vent out on.

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>>63358495
The churchgoing novelites aren't around to stop them.

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>>63358495
sunday is shiori's designated day off

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>>63358613
There it is!!!, round and round and back to the cuck fetish you go, Tumor weeks sister.

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>>63358613
>Why fucking join Hololive then?
>Management
>Merch dept and deals
>Box that she'd be able to collab with if she wanted to
>Concerts
>Sponsorships
>Exposure
>New start
Gee, I don't know
>Yet she's in every open VC
Festival
>Funny how someone so social just wants to be on their own and do their own thing
Yeah, which is why she barely collabs with anyone outside of Advent and never sets up collabs despite, considering your claim of le ebil 4chinz, being able to and her fans on 4chinz wanting her to be more social with the other girls.

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>>63358639
>shiori is the one making all the anti threads about herself
oy vey

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>>63358613
>I will laugh at you when the day comes. We've all warned you.
REMINDER
https://youtu.be/ZoTxTLec1-U?t=10663
>ended stream right when the new homo debuted
>"whos live right now?"
>checks whos live
>ZERO MENTION OF ANY OF THE HOMOS AT ALL
>"Fuwamoco"
>redirects to them and ends stream
TWO MORE WEEKS AMIRITE BROS

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>>63358613
>Why fucking join Hololive then?
If you watched her member stream just yesterday, she gushed over her Connect the World merch. But why am I expecting a sister to have watched streams?
>How can she not do her own thing for 4/5 streams and have 1 stream be a collab like a normal person?
Sisters, you post her schedule every fucking week, she's been doing exactly that what you asked for just now. It just hasn't been with your homos, and it never will be.
>Yet she's in every open VC, even during times she said she'll be resting or working on background stuff
Wow, it's like being in a VC requires effort, hint: It doesn't.
> I will laugh at you when the day comes. We've all warned you.
Sure sister, sure, tumor weaks.

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>>63358625
Based good Christian god-fearing fanbase

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>>63358780
>Novelite admits his oshi is a grifter to btfo cuck claims
You can't make this shit up

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>>63358865
Grifting implies she's redirecting them to her roommate, which she isn't. In fact she wants to keep her RM as far away from Shiori as possible. New start for a reason fag chan.

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>>63358613
>Yet she's in every open VC
>Missed Mumei's last drawing open vc and her imomushi open vc
>Didn't join Mori's past 3 minecraft open vc sessions
She really doesn't join them as often as you seem to think

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>>63356705
I will never trust this grifter whore, NTR BBC loving skank can fuck off. nothing she can do will win me over, ever. I'm not getting burned again like with Kronii.

[Anonymous No.]

>Shiori antis are just Natsumi Moe antis
Yeah accurate

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>>63359059
She's right, twitchfags are cucks. She wouldn't do the same to us youtubechads.

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>>63359139
The fact that eilenes big return was a huge flop has them a bit riled up

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>>63358639
>>63358794
This girl is a genius

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>>63356705

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>>63359527
>Soulless AI garbage

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>>63356705
It's great she don't collab with homos in hololive, but part of me wish for it just so we can laugh at novelkeks becoming novelcucks. Their seethes are top grade.

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>>63359923
Yeah its a perfect fit for Eilene really, no surprise he uses it.

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>>63359941

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>>63359941
You can apply this to literally any fanbase who's oshi doesn't already collab with homos,
>Imagine X did a homo collab, Y fanbase are a bunch of cucks, kek.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't mind her, not going to go out of my way to watch her though.

[Anonymous No.]

Apparently she bought back GFE and now sisters are seething

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>>63359966
>he
Wait Eilene is a man? So Shiori antis are just homo fans seething at her success after their homo flopped? I don't know who Eilene is

[Anonymous No.]

I think rather than being simply shy, I think Shiori just wants to be tactfully cautious; essentially scouting & probing others to see what the boundaries are. To me at least, she doesn’t want to cause any problems for herself nor anyone else due to some misunderstanding she might create. Which she ironically demonstrated unintentionally on day 1 of streaming.
>>63357098
I took it more as her explaining that because she’ll only 1-on-1 with those she’s gotten to know more, that any bullying/harassing of said person by her fanbase will be very hurtful to her.
>>63357464
Shiori basically said, I think even on that same stream, that for any 1-on-1 collabs, the relationship she has with the other party has to be past the personality uncertainties & boundaries setting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63360106
>she bought back GFE
GFE never left

[Anonymous No.]

>>63360106
The past few streams have been a real treat

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>>63360106
The members stream with lots of GFE, her implying we where her boyfriend she's keeping secret from her family and her liking and I think replying to comments on twitter asking if we where her secret boyfriend yesterday really broke them.

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>>63360112
Eilene is some retard from /here/ but way, way before /vt/ existed who started their own vtubing agency so they could grift the everloving shit out of everyone, and stuck gold when he managed to rope in Mirai Akari, one of the four heavenly kings of vtubing.

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>>63360145
>for any 1-on-1 collabs, the relationship she has with the other party has to be past the personality uncertainties & boundaries setting
So how did she get to this stage with her past collabs then? You need to step out your fucking comfort zone to reach that stage with someone. Group collabs and VCs were a great way for her to see who she can vibe with (many), so just have fun and chill with one of them for a bit. Why is it so hard for her? Someone like Fauna or IRyS will be easy as hell to chat to.

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>>63360112
The Daiz of vtubing.

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>>63360325
>Why is it so hard for her?
You keep assuming she absolutely wants to collab, she doesn't. She wants to do her own thing and will probably not collab with anyone outside of Advent or HoloEN at all. Heck, her collabing is rare as it is unless an advent member is there or its a watchalong with advent.

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>>63360112

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>>63360145
>I think Shiori just wants to be tactfully cautious; essentially scouting & probing others to see what the boundaries are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YTJbseLq1o&t=8380
She pretty much said this word for word in her last members stream

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>>63360417
That goes back to my previous point though. She's only like that to give people like (You) a way to cope about what she initially meant. She has to live her lie now and stay in her corner because if she suddenly branched out (literally), it would imply she really did initially mean it was in her interest to collab with males or other friends outside of Hololive. Shit like this >>63360482 is just her way to reinforce the lie to those who literally pay her bills, for they're the ones who need convincing most. Why wouldn't she share this openly to everyone?

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>>63360960
>if she suddenly branched out (literally), it would imply she really did initially mean it was in her interest to collab with males
It literally does not if she branches out with only the girls. Take your meds sister, she just doesn't want to collab all that much.
>Why wouldn't she share this openly to everyone?
Why does she have to?

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>>63360960
>Why wouldn't she share this openly to everyone?
Because it's her fans that care about that shit? Dramafags and sisters like (You) do not need to be catered to.

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>>63356705
She was and always will be a dumb unwatchable whore.

[Anonymous No.]

She has fun stream ideas and I respect that she's willing to play games others rarely play

[Anonymous No.]

She has a bunch of stuff that she can talk about and makes every stream interesting. Even the ones that I would avoid just by seeing the title of the game....she still manages to keep me engaged.
Also she has one of the hottest vtuber models ever. Holy mother of god did she hit a jackpot with that. Also, she pilots it pretty well and is not just a weird stiff bitch on screen.

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>>63360151
Is every one of the chuuba’s streams GFE? Or is it only some of them?
Is it Self-Labeled GFE? Or is it Unintentional GFE?
>for only those of you wondering how can it be unintentional
chuuba never intended for their content to be used as GFE, yet accidentally hits that very demographic they weren’t aiming for because they do the universally practiced Friend Experience (FE). Especially if they “flirt” often enough, as many girls platonically flirt. I can imagine platonic flirting can being extended to a chat by those kinds of girls who just want to platonically bond with.
>for only those of you wondering why don’t they just say so
It can be because the chuuba doesn’t mind for whatever reason; be it the money, the attention, or just outright not caring about it.
Alternatively, they might not say anything because the chuuba is scared of how certain kinds of GFE enjoyers (not all) will respond viciously to it.

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>>63358613
can’t be cucked if you were never romantically interested to begin with

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>>63364193
>Is every one of the chuuba’s streams GFE? Or is it only some of them?
Most streams have some form of GFE yes
>Is it Self-Labeled GFE? Or is it Unintentional GFE?
She knows what shes doing, we know she knows what shes doing and she knows that we know that she knows what she's doing. Essentially, yes.

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>>63358994
At the very least she doesn’t join anymore. Why? idk

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>>63356705
why would she collab online when she can fuck offline.

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>>63361720
>Also, she pilots it pretty well

She is the best pilot in EN by a huge margin, she even pilots it well when her potato pc shits and it's a fucking png.

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>>63357464
I love how useful this image is.

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>>63360106
>>63360182
Well that’s news to me, I hope she both understands that this is an all move for the long haul, & that she knows what’s she’s doing. Changing her mind at any point in the future will come with a high cost.

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>>63364389
I certainly hope that’s the case. While I’m not into GFE personally, I certainly don’t hate GFE nor the sane GFE fans. I just don’t like the toxic parts of it that come from certain chuubas & certain fans.

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>>63357464
/vt/ won and forced correction, demis who say otherwise are just jealous.

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>>63360960
you still assume that her respect my collab choices comment made any waves outside of /vt/.
nobody gave a fuck, /vt/ is a minor part of her viewership. why would she need to make a small percentage of her viewership cope about this comment.

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>>63364193
Under your definitions, I'd call it self-labeled.
Not all of her streams have GFE, it's not blatant GFE either, but it's not unintended.
Recent things she's done include shopping online and then linking the pages she was looking at and asking chat for opinions.
Traumadumping in member's streams only and being closer in terms of stuff like feelings
Talks about how her day's been, what she's been thinking, her plans for the coming days outside of streams.

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>>63366407
Not to mention the steppies, kisses and her twitter likes and replies, as well as the impication of us as a secret boyfriend etc.

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>>63366407
She also linked stuff so we could make a Shiori doll or dakimakura if we wanted to, which was kino.

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>>63366478
>>63366544
Right, these too. Just her last member stream she talked about creating code names for chat to hide them from her parents, like a secret boyfriend you don't want to show off to your parents because you know they won't stop bitching about him to you.

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>>63364193
Shiori is very affectionate and interactive with her audience. She takes the time to greet people, congratulate them on their accomplishments, and thank them. In her roleplay, she usually portrays herself as a platonic friend to the listener. She claims that rizz attempts go over her head. Shiori is intentionally friend experience but not girlfriend experience.

That said, as others have pointed out, some of her interactions with her audience could easily allow for self-insert as a romantic interest. But the reality is that Shiori is an autistic girl that is very happy to be able to share her stream of consciousness and niche interests with a receptive audience.

[Anonymous No.]

She never needed to redeem herself. That said her choices for stream "content" are absolute dogshit, she fits in the least among her gen, and if she wasn't hard carried by her model she'd be a 3 view.

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>>63356705
redeem from what?

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>>63356705
Who the fuck is this even? Did niji release another wave? ACCELERATE ACCELERATE

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>>63358613
I genuinely do not understand this level of mental illness. No faggots like this not realize that they are not in a relationship with Shiori and that she is an entertainer who can collab with whoever she wants so long as she's willing to take the financial hit of losing gigafaggots like this guy?

I mean I personally have zero respect for a Vtuber who places extorting money out of the mentally ill above providing genuinely enjoyable content through collabs. Some of the best, funniest, and most kino Hololive moments were from male x female collabs, and VShojo repeatedly proves that male and female Vtubers/entertainers can collab to create hilarious and enjoyable content.

But these faggots make bronies look civilized. She's not your GF, make a tulpa and get dragged into Hell by it if you're that desperate.

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>>63374234
>above providing genuinely enjoyable content through collabs
>through collabs
You lost me there beggarfag
>Some of the best, funniest, and most kino Hololive moments were from male x female collabs
Lol no, once again gtfo beggarchan
>She's not your GF
Correct, she's my wife

[Anonymous No.]

>>63361539
Hi Shiori! We love you!

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>>63374395
>fag
Do you ever stop projecting? One of us is certainly insecure about his sexuality, and it isn't me.

>gtfo because word salad
No, I quite enjoy pissing you closeted faggots off. Great way to pass the time in between my two jobs

>She's my wife
Well I'm fucking your wife on the regular. She says my dick is much better than yours and that she wants my babies because you're a loser sperg. Sometimes, on Tuesdays and Fridays, I invite Vesper and Magni over with Kronii and Calli and we have a little orgy together. We've considered a polyamerous marriage but everyone's just too busy really. We love talking about losers like you and how fucking easy it is to take your money. Flash a pair of titties and say a few magic words and your wallet opens up like a horny virgin girl's legs at the high school football team's afterparty. Its hilariously pathetic.

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>>63375062
lol, the sister is crying and writing more fanfiction

[Anonymous No.]

>>63375062
>working two jobs
Confirmed poorfag, probably seafag

[Anonymous No.]

>>63375142
>writing more fanfiction
>"She's my wife"
kek

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>>63375208
>two jobs
>poorfag
Some of us want to get the hell out of this society before it collapses, and that requires land and building materials, which both cost money. You'll still be cooming to Vtubers while the tyrants slap chains around your ankles while I'm inna woods watching archived vods saved to a hard drive in my comfy log cabin. Enjoy your slavery cuck, I'll enjoy Shiori from the comfort of a safe distance instead.

[Anonymous No.]

Was it the members stream yesterday that broke Shiori antis so much?

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>>63375493
Damn this doomer ass nigga really just admit he works 2 jobs just to build his own cuck shed

[Anonymous No.]

>>63378179
You faggots have a very deformed idea of what constitutes cockholdry

[Anonymous No.]

So everyone in /vt/ loves Shiori now?

[Anonymous No.]

>well now, it seems my superiority has led to jealousy, presumably no other managers have did
>idol loving weeboos twins
>cute and funny hard sweaty gamer
>lust and lesbian pest
>top tier GFE for former goslings that was failed to meet for the past 2 ENgens

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>>63379351
>was revealed to be a male manager before promotion
>greenlits a 3rd gen of males
>retards still kneels
how is he so powerful

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>>63380047
You fucking mongoloid, Jap was hired in december, wanna know where he worked before then? Picrel you mongoloid, and he doesn't manage stars, only the girls. I swear, at least do reps or something

>>/vt/thread/63055905

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>>63380502(me)
Pic for proof

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>>63380502
>>63380855
And he was only hired to manage the girls, this is the Holostars EN manager. He doesn't control anything in Holostars, she does.

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>>63380502
>>63380855
What does this mean? What was his career path here? Project management background?

[Anonymous No.]

Okay. What the fuck is this about? Like, as a tourist, what the fuck is this insistence on Shiori and who she collabs with? Did I miss the memo on here, why is this the most forced attempt at a yabai with this girl?

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>>63360182
Kinda winning me over here. She do ASMR yet?

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>>63383483
Yes, she did a fanfic readin ASMR, fanfics that the Novelites wrote about her and them ofc She posts prompts on her community tab for novelites to write stories with

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>>63383284
>what the fuck is this insistence on Shiori and who she collabs with
They believed that Shiori would be the one to instantly collab with Tempus and always collab with Tempus, and since she hasn't they're mad at her.

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>>63383483
>>63383615(me)
She also does short bursts of what you could consider ASMR on regular streams as well sometimes.

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>>63358865
>grifter
Do you even know what that means? By your definition Luna and Polka are grifters.

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>>63383615
>>63383815
Cool. She kinda overlaps with IRyS, who's my oshi, so I can't necessarily catch her live if that happens but I'll try to watch her.

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>>63356705
I literally cannot watch her. I'm personally cursed.
>I never liked Sana on debut
>The Moment I start to like her she announces her graduation
>I member to Gura and start watching her streams
>She starts going on long breaks shortly after
>I didn't think Kronii was so bad
>Tempus happened to her
Every time I start to come around to a Vtuber I was avoiding, something terrible happens that fucks up their career permanently, or they just fucking graduate.
I don't hate her, but I can't bring myself to watch her in fear that my curse will activate and ruin her for all of her viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>63358472
>Kiara
>Cute girl
Holy fuck lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6338610
I'll pay you a lot of money to start enjoying Kiara.