This week's nijidrama

[Anonymous No.]

>NijisanjiEN streamer caught committing plagiarism for his official mascot design
Not satisfied with paying someone to make the official design based on a fanart, the original artist didn't receive a single dollar from him, not even a credit for original design.
Just another example of nijisanji being a black company and treating their own fans like cattle

[Anonymous No.]

>>63263567
Not really a surprise to anyone

[Anonymous No.]

What's with the men in this company?
None of the girls ever get in trouble like this even Enna

[Anonymous No.]

>>63264083
This trouble is stupid

>> "once the design is submitted, the liver has the right to use it"
End of this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63264499
But he didn't credit the designer

[Anonymous No.]

>>63263567
stop being a faggot tribalfag for a second. This has nothing to do with the vtuber sicne he's not the one stealing any work.
twitter artists tend to be dramafags, might i remind you what happened to fuwamoco when they asked their fans for free art work ?

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>>63264575
>>63264499
Niji defense force is going to be busy today

[Anonymous No.]

>>63264575
>This has nothing to do with the vtuber sicne he's not the one stealing any work.
How is he not the one stealing the work?

[Anonymous No.]

>>63263567
Just a single fucking week without drama please, Kurosanji...

[Anonymous No.]

>>63264575
>Free
>literally got featured/credited
>meanwhile kurosanji livers refuse to even acknowledge the original artist

[Anonymous No.]

>>63264740
He's crediting someone else even, @maeriette.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63264575
Nijikek

[Anonymous No.]

>>63264783
yeah, that's the artist who did the redraw for the official thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>63264783
Rip the guy that made the original concept I guess. Good for the redrawer

[Anonymous No.]

>>63263567
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Anonymous No.]

Dude, you get free art from fans, at least credit the artist. It's even more baffling if he paid another guy to redraw the design.

[Anonymous No.]

Thanks for the content, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>63264550
No need to, they signed away any credit rights when they submitted it to Niji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63263567
They have a nigga named wilson?!?!

[Anonymous No.]

the right move should be crediting the original artist and the redrawer

this shit is so fucking simple
why this happen really baffles me

[Anonymous No.]

>>63264885
cope
>once the design is submitted, the liver has the right to use it
the faggot artist should have learn how to read properly before learning how to draw

[Anonymous No.]

>>63263567
ABOUT FUCKING TIME LETS GOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.]

>>63263567
>Dumb artist draw mascot for niji
>Art got stolen without credit
A tale old as time itself

[Anonymous No.]

>>63264674
Now they'll have to defend stealing art, I love it

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265034
Nobody is saying he doesn't have the right to use it, ESL-kun

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265152
>Now
Nijisanji and stealing is the most iconic duo

[Anonymous No.]

>>63263567
when you draw these corpotubers you are basically giving them the rights to your drawing. holo does the same shit. they own the character you drew and can do whatever the fuck they want. it's a japan copyright thing. they don't have fair use protecting derivative works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265161
once you submitted it, it's no longer yours. it's mine. whatever i want to do with it, whoever i want to credit, is none of your fucking business. so the stupid artist should just delete his posts before he embarrasses himself further

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265283
Wilson fucking apologized to the artist and even went and said he'd change the design if it made the artist uncomfortable so why are you being a fucking retard about this

[Anonymous No.]

God damn they really force the NDF to defend a thievery huh?

[Anonymous No.]

What I don't get is: why doesn't he just credit the redrawer AND the original artist? Just copypaste the dude's twitter handle ffs. There, drama avoided. You get new mascot, fan feels appreciated for their effort.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265234
>Miss the whole problem
Nijikek.....
At least defense properly

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265188
That's inspiration, not stealing art. You don't own a pose

[Anonymous No.]

But
Why

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265034
Are you retarded? That's the point, people give vtubers free shit all the time, the least they should do is to give proper credit. That dude isn't even being paid in exposure. How hard is it to add "based on the original design of..."?

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265338
>Wilson fucking apologized to the artist
he just proved that he's a far better man than the faggot artist. maybe the bastard should learn something from him

[Anonymous No.]

>>63263567
nijifags never give credits to artists. not sure why they even get fanart.

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>>63265360
i don't watch any corposhit and the word you're looking for is "defend" braindead holokek you're sucking the same corpocock. don't draw for billion dollar corporations. draw some cute western indies instead and they will appreciate it and commission you for work.

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>>63265402
>>63265283

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>>63265188
shit example my dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265283
Technically true, but you gotta think of the PR and how it looks, too. Not crediting the original artist is just plain bad manners. Not that Niji or the NDF would know anything about doing PR reps though.

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>>63265491

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>>63265426
Your niji is showing, anon

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>>63265544

[Anonymous No.]

>>63263567
I'd say this is more on the artist than Wilson. I'm pretty sure NijiEN livers can't contact fan artist for work anymore after someone Luca hired leaked a project. So most likely Niji Mangament were in talks with whatever artist they hire and Wilson probably said he wanted an Axolotl design.
>why an Axolotl
That was his shtick in Minecraft where he breed a ton of them to get a blue one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265338
>Wilson fucking apologized
>nobody posts the proof so the discussion can end
not very smart huh
>>63265403
suck my cock

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265544
Wtf? Why didn't he just credit her? Fucking moron

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265621
>>63265591
>>63265283

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265542
I accept your concession

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265544
Why didn't he just hire this artist instead of going for another one when they're the one who made the design in the first place and probably had 0 fucking qualms in editing it to fit his vision

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265654
read>>63265283

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265544
>oh I saw your fanart, loved the concept, wanted my mascot to be like that, so I hired an artist and told them to just copy your work without ever contacting you... nothing personal, I hope you won't make me change de design as that would bring a lot of hate to you within the community

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265544
>Yeah I tried to steal your art and not credit you but now you found out and enough people retweeted ut I'm sorry
Garbage human being, perfect for chinksanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63264575
It wasn't the fans complaining retard, it was some random artist who was offended on 'behalf' of the fans. They were all credited for the voluntary soundbites.

A very different scenario from this case where the one complaining is the actual artist who not only did not voluntarily submit but wasn't even credited for said submission.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265655
Try defense properly next time,nijikek

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265544
>Only apologise when get call out
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265234
>>63264499
>>63264893
>>63264575
>>63265034
The rights were never the issue. The original artist isn't asking for rights. From what can be seen, they submitted it as part of a contest of some kind.
They're simply asking to be mentioned as the original designer which is the very smallest amount of courtesy they could have offered them for this.
Giving credit to the correct people is the very least someone can do for artists that give you shit for free. But a chinese opportunistic shit pile like yourself wouldn't understand that.

>>63265283
>whoever i want to credit, is none of your fucking business.
Actually that's completely wrong. Even if you buy a piece of artwork from someone, you can't then claim it was drawn by someone else. That's literally fraud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265717
try an english textbook next time corpocuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265791
>they submitted it as part of a contest of some kind.
They actually didn't. See >>63265544

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265544
This unironically makes him look like even more of a scumbag.

[Anonymous No.]

I remember Selens fanart contest and niji just said if you submit anything then they get a commercial license to your work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265544
Uh, I'd rather completely remake my mascot and spend more money than give you the bare minimum of credit so can you fuck off??

[Anonymous No.]

Just another regular week for NijiEN. They just can't stop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265791
>They're simply asking to be mentioned as the original designer which is the very smallest amount of courtesy they could have offered them for this.
that would be nice but they have no obligation to thank you for drawing their ip.
>But a chinese opportunistic shit pile like yourself wouldn't understand that.
japanese copyright law. not china. i don't know if they even have copyright over there.

[Anonymous No.]

What is NijiEN's yab per capita? They get themselves into the most shit every week but they have a lot of people also proof that quality > quantity always

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265904
this

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265807
What? That makes him even more of a Scumbag

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265448
You can repeat retarded crap as much as you want, it won't change a thing.
There's a set of unwritten rules for that kind of things, and properly crediting artists is the most basic decency. It doesn't matter that you can technically not do it, you're basically spitting on the face of your fans if you act that way.
Glad that Wilson apologized and I hope it was a honest mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

Don't really care about the drama, but fanarts under the tag can be used by the vtubers however they like, it's like that everywhere. Don't want it to be used by them? Either don't post under their tag or put a big 'DON'T USE IT FAGGOT' in the post along the art.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265797
Go watch your dying nijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265851
And Selen had to fight to even offer some money reward out of her own pocket, which just made her look bad in management's eyes

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265544
The only thing this is missing is a passive agressive ":)"
He should've taken hints from Ren on how to play victim

[Anonymous No.]

ITT:
People neglect that Japanese corpos flat out explicitly tell you anything you make with their brand belongs to them including fanart, designs and etc
People neglect that Wilson actually apparently apologized even though the designs themselves are pretty different from each other
People pretend to be on the same side as the guy who called out fwmc on Twitter for using their fans.

You're all retarded

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>>63265544
Can't he just remake it or give the credit to the original artist? Why all the pr speak?

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265991
How is every post defending him missing the point? Are you samefagging?

[Anonymous No.]

>>63266125
Sis how pimply are you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>63266029
Why the fuck would management block Selen from giving out prize money from her personal funds? Livers can't choose how to spend their own money now??

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265544
He literally could've just added "Inspired by @artist cool submission" and it would've been okay. Its so easy. Why is it so hard to just credit stuff? Just copy paste a name.

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>>63265544
Wait, I hope that's not the "apology", because it's fucking garbage.
>sorry if you feel bad about it, but I purposely took your design without crediting you because I wanted to add a pair of goggles on its face

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>>63263567
Doesn't this stuff usually use the original artist like that chibi for HoloEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>63266206
Cause if she has so many money like that then she should give it to the company, not the fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>63266023
>>63266203
shh the adults are talking

[Anonymous No.]

>>63266206
Yes
It literally happened
I think it's about japanese gambling law where they prohibit cash prize
but that's still fucking stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>someone makes a really cuteascot design
>Wilson sees it
>instead of asking the original artist takes this design and gives it to another artist and says to just copy it
>reveal new mascot without credit to the guy you copied the art from
>get called out on twitter
>only reply when you absolutely have to
>make yourself look like a complete scumbag by confirming it all
Lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>63266254
You mean Walfie? Well yeah, if HoloEN never properly credited the guy and instead paid someone else to copy his design and give that person all the credit

[Anonymous No.]

>>63266255
>ecause I wanted to add a pair of goggles on its face
The original artist HAD THE GOGGLES. Look at the OP image. The only difference is the eye shape. unironically.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265851
commercial license does not mean that they can transfer the creation of said art from it's original artist to another.
The creator of something is an immutable fact and cannot change even if you purchase that design from someone else.
>>63265904
>>63265937
Japanese copyright literally entails the moral rights of the author, which explicitly states that the credit for the authorship of a work cannot be changed or misattributed.
https://www.cric.or.jp/english/clj/cl2.html
Nice try, you shit-eating EOP retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63266255
The original has goggles too. He literally didn't add anything lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265544
>oh shit, I got caught. better apologize.
And he's even telling her he did in fact use her design. Scumbag move, really.

[Anonymous No.]

Watch as the artist got attacked by Yucky's fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>63266380
There's a shit ton of differences.
The eyes are bigger
The features are more fox like and less round
The tail is on fire and less amphibious looking
The whiskers are hollow and rounded
The ears are pointed and given hair

It resembles a fox more closely than an axolotl

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265544
Bro just credit the original artist. Holy shit, it's not that hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63266206
Everything "Selen" does is what Nijisanji does. She is not her own person, she is a company mascot. its the reason why Kyo got suspended because he made Nijisanji look really bad in Korea.

[Anonymous No.]

>Sisters getting mad that they shill for free while someone else expects to get paid for their work

[Anonymous No.]

Always funny when people talk about someone doing something wrong, then other people defend it by talking about rules and laws. Do you only know right from wrong because of rules and laws?

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265544
What a cunt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63263567
I get that its an axolotl but what is it supposed to be hybrid with cat or a ferret? Seems like an easy fix to do. May I suggest picrel or a salamander

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265020
this

[Anonymous No.]

Unironically just did this so he can talk to and commission an artist that did a handful of holoen and twitch streamer emotes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63266421
Yeah, I saw after that the goggles are on the same fucking place. What the fuck is wrong with that guy?
What pisses me off is that he knows that the artist is a fan and would do anything to please him as long as they get acknowledgement. His apology is incredibly disingenuous.

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>>63263567
Isn't this just a blatant copy of Axel's mascot?

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>>63266393
good luck arguing that in court against a team of corporate lawyers you fucken nerd

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>>63266206
Just like the other anon said, jap corpos tend to avoid doing cash prizes.
Konami's official yugioh tournaments gives out nintendo switches, playmats and booster boxes instead of prize money. A bit lackluster but wcyd

[Anonymous No.]

>>63266708
Never mind I see it says AxoCat

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>>63265544
Are all french canadians cunts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>63266788
Yes unironically. They think they're french and act like the most cuntish french you can imagine. Even the French hate them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63266788
>the worst of both worlds
it checks out

[Anonymous No.]

>>63266568
People who are unable to follow a moral compass unless it's dictated by rules and laws are at best midwits, and at worst psychos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63266275
>>63266206
>>63266784
Basically this. It's due to how Japan views gambling. It's weird but Selen talked about it on one of her streams. Basically any sort of prize involving cash can be seen as gambling which is why some corporations have skirted the laws using gift cards but literally even physical prizes could possibly be seen as a sort of gambling. It's retarded but it's Japan. How hololive avoided it a few years back during their summer contest I'm not sure

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>>63263567
>This has nothing to do with the vtuber
>design getting literally approved by chuuba himself

>might i remind you what happened to fuwamoco when they asked their fans for free art work
that was a community contest, and not even artwork, it was an intro tune for their fwmc morning, winner's got their thing used for the streams, which is literally approved by the artist themselve to use.
Same with the other contestants.

These are 2 different situations lmao.
Do you actually have no braincell to comprehend this shit?
And how ironic to call someone out being a tribalfag when you're literally being one rn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63264890
False will cover it not LayDee

[Anonymous No.]

>>63266988
Anycolor is chinese

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265544
>I'm willing to redesign the Wilsoneers mascot if this makes you uncomfortable
>---It's okay if the fan mascot doesn't need to be redesigned --- So let Wilsoneer become Axocat
Then what was the whole fucking point of this? If you are calling him out because he supposedly stole you design then the correct thing to do it's to make him change it. Did it stop mattering the moment you get attention or what the fuck is wrong with this idiot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>63267070
Some artists just want to be credited, bare minimum. Something this fuck didn't even care to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63266775
Yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>>63264890
Sex with fem false

[Anonymous No.]

>>63267070
every bit of clout helps for small time artist bwo
and it's a common courtesy to give credits to where it dues

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>>63266988
Isn't gambling huge in Japan though? Like horse racing and pachinko and shits like that, so those are okay but the other kind of 'gambling' like paying prize in cash aren't? Is it like, 'it's okay when Hololive does it' kind of thing?

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>>63267070
Because at the end of the day they're a fan and don't want to rock the boat. But they're also an artist and just want credit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63267070
She literally wants to just be paid in exposure maerie doesn't need more when she does a bunch of high profile vtuber comms already

[Anonymous No.]

>>63267174
Pachinko don't have cash prize for a reason and Horse Racing have their own laws

[Anonymous No.]

>>63266775
no, Axel's mascot is black, has 3 tails and has the format of a dick

[Anonymous No.]

>>63263567
OMFG I don't like nijifags but this is so fucking faggy, Kill yourself OP

[Anonymous No.]

Nijikeks can't go a single week without some sort of drama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63266993
Anon, what the fuck are you talking about, who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>63267292
probably quoting this >>63264575

[Anonymous No.]

>>63267255
yass queen so true sis

[Anonymous No.]

>>63264827
PARASOCIAL FUCKS

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>>63266993
You couldn't even tag the right person while calling them an idiot....
Also the original artist got a rework of their design to be approved to be featured as an official fan mascot, if I had to guess I'd guess there was probably some kind of contest involved in this situation too where the original artist submitted it as a way to get their design featured on stream.

It's different but also similar. Once you submit anything under those hashtags it can be used by the vtuber even hololive had a whole ass section dedicated to explaining that 3 years ago. They've changed it to be less clear nowadays but kinda imply that they will strike you if they don't necessarily agree with it.

This used to be their guidelines 3 years back

"The Characters are protected under the Copyright Act and other applicable laws and regulations. You agree that the Company retains ownership in the Characters and all Alterations thereof provided by the Company.

2. Pursuant to Article 28 of the Copyright Act, with regard to use of Derivative Works of the Characters, the Company has the sole ownership in the rights under Article 21 to 27 of the said Act, which are of the same type as those owned by an author of such Derivative Works.

3. Any trademarks, logos, and service marks (collectively “Trademarks”) that are indicated in delivery of the Characters will not be construed as an assignment, transfer of Trademarks, or granting by the Company a license to use Trademarks to you or other third parties.

4. A User agrees never to assert moral rights against the Company and its successors in title or licensees."

I agree he should have credited the original artist and he probably will judging by his apology but he seems to be offline now seeing as his last tweet and like was 9+ hours ago and was to the artist

[Anonymous No.]

They didn't even give credit to Sugimori for the original design. It just looks like a shiny mudkip.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63267445
Look at this nijibitch lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>63267445
good try but the design in question wasn't copyrighted by Anycolor, it was a fan design for an eventual mascot that didn't even exist at the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63267575
Anything submitted in those hashtags including designs or potential designs belongs to the company as it is assumed that your artwork is designed for an IP that they own.

As per anycolor guidelines which are pretty similar to the holo/cover guidelines I posted

"At the point in time that you publicize the Contents derivative works, then you will be deemed to have given approval regarding our Company and a third party designated by our Company to use the derivative works pursuant to the methods set forth below:
(1) Use on live transmissions and SNS, etc. (also, there may be instances of carrying out trimmings or deformations, etc. of a degree that does not damage the identity of the product).
(2) Carrying out official distribution or turning into goods (also, upon carrying out turning into goods, we would like to hold consultations in advance)"

You post something for the vtuber to see in their hashtags and the company legally owns it as per Japanese copyright laws and company codes.

As per covers more recent guidelines it's summed up pretty well
"We consider derivative works to be creations born of fans’ ideas and creativity, based on content created by us.

We will not exercise our rights in regards to works that we deem to be derivative works, as long as they comply with these overall guidelines.

Please note that we may use any derivative works you create as stream thumbnails, on social media, etc."

Anything you post based on the company or people in it falls under their guidelines and is owned by them. Unironically support indies they'll appreciate it more and won't claim that your work is theirs

[Anonymous No.]

>>63266542
Oh fuck. I forgot about beatani. Does anyone know what she's doing now or has she vanished off the face of the internet after she graduated?

[Anonymous No.]

>but legally speaking
Shut up faggot, you can't change the author without looking like a piece of shit. Nobodies arguing that he can't monetize it or whatever you bootlicking faggots
>we're still right
The Niji organ flat out admits he took it without crediting them.

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>>63266780
NIJISEETHE

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>>63266780
A lawyer is a wizard, and can change the law at will!
That's not how that works, anon. If I paint a picture and then sell it to you, you can't claim that your friend is the one that painted it. That's what that means.

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>>63267963
>>63268122
>>63268111
At least try reading the guidelines posted by the companies before trying to invent some law to get around it.

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>>63268105
He probably will credit the artist in the morning judging by the fact that he literally sent his last reply 9 hours ago to the artist. He should have done it in the first place to be nice, I don't disagree but the fact that he owed up to it when he didn't have to was in my opinion nice.

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>>63268168
Thats what you are doing you retarded fuck
Some imaginary rule a company puts out doesn't let them bypass the law

[Anonymous No.]

>>63268225
I don't think you can commend him for owning up to it. It was obvious that he was using that artist's design, so he'd probably just look worse if he denied it

[Anonymous No.]

>>63266334
NijiEN hires aren't exactly the cream of the crop

[Anonymous No.]

READ THE GUIDELINES, WHO CARES ABOUT ETHICS AND BEING A DECENT HUMAN BEING. STOP CRITICIZING COMPANY AND EXPECTING THEM TO DO BETTER.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63268232
Yes it does. Corporations say
>This IP belongs to us and by designing something for this IP you are signing away your rights to the product
Japan and just about anywhere else including the US would likely side with the corporation because they explicitly stated in their TOS that by designing something for them or people in it, you signed away your rights to it. It's not uncommon. In fact look up "Terms of Service" and you'll see that per Wikipedia itself
"Terms of Service are legal agreements between a service provider and a person who wants to use that service."

[Anonymous No.]

>>63268408
Great, now tell us what part of that design is owned by Anycolor

[Anonymous No.]

>>63263567
They are nothing alike and I hate niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>63267963
Nothing you just posted matters, retard, because according to Japanese Copyright law, you cannot misattribute the creation of a work to another author, even if you own the rights to it.
https://www.cric.or.jp/english/clj/cl2.html
And that was the entire issue raised by the original artist. They weren't demanding ownership of the mascot, you scum-sucking idiot, they were asking to be correctly identified as the person who designed it.

>>63268168
Are you stupid? The guidelines do not mention anything about re-attributing credit for the original creation to someone else, you fucking idiot. And even if it did, such terms would most likely be illegal according to the inalienable rights of the author as stated within the above law.
Buying something, or otherwise obtaining something through legal means, and then falsely claiming you were the one that created it is fraud in pretty much every country, you mental midget fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63263567
the guy who complained about FuwaMoco jingle is gonna have a field day with this one

[Anonymous No.]

>>63268445
Ok nvm just saw this >>63265544
What a fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>63268442
Anycolor clearly holds all monopoly on orange axolotl's with goggles man its the law

[Anonymous No.]

>>63268408
The issue was never ownership rights, you illiterate moron.
>>63268463

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>>63268473
too bad the tranny already got chased out of the hobby

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265544
LMAO THIS FUCKING DUMBASS he's actually made it worse. He could've just stfu and it'd blow over

[Anonymous No.]

>>63268463
According to the guidelines/terms of service you agree to. The company owns your artwork the second you post it if it involves their brand, their IP or anything else and it does not say anything about crediting them for their works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63268575
Answer the question >>63268442
Can you show us anything anycolor owns that is a orange axolotl with goggles

[Anonymous No.]

The problem isn't whether Niji has rights to the design, it's the fact that not crediting the designer makes you an asshole. The laws are irrelevant

[Anonymous No.]

>>63268516
Unfortunate. I would've liked to see the twitlonger

[Anonymous No.]

>>63268612
You would even defend Sonichu as an original character if it would help you take a shit on Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265544
>I am willing to redesign the Wilsoneers mascot if this makes you uncomfortable
The artist isn't even asking for money, just credit where credit is due. Why is this fag being such a little bitch about everything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>63268612
No you see if you post a image replying to a liver anycolor automatically owns everything in that image even without contract
Its the law man I'm a lawyer

[Anonymous No.]

>>63268510
I'm not the one trying to argue against the terms of service posted by a company that explicitly layout how everything you post based on that company belongs to them per their own terms of service/guidelines. As I flat out said he should have apologized but I will be quite frank and say that as per their guidelines he doesn't have to.
>>63268612
The artist posted a picture of the design in the hashtags used by the talent and also posted it several times next to the talent in question themselves. It was clearly meant as a design to be used by the talent and any modifications taken by the talent are well within the talent's rights since the talent/company do have the legal rights to the artwork and design as per the legal guidelines you agree to when you support your favorite Japanese vtuber by posting any content for them or featuring them

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>>63268724
Sega might have actual Yakuza members amongst it's staff but even they're not that terrible that they'd sue CWC for selling Sonichu medallions you faggot.

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>>63268787
Actually speaking they probably would either them or Nintendo since the character in question was derived from an IP that they own and they likely have similar guidelines for artistic creations using their IP.
I could easily see Nintendo if nothing else throwing a fit if the character ever became worth more than a meme

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>>63268575
>and it does not say anything about crediting them for their works.
It doesn't need to say anything about it. That's literally what inalienable means. It means the right is intrinsic, and cannot be taken away.
The niji in the OP credited the hired artist as the creator of the design, when that is strictly false. It's a misatribution of the creation of the original design to a different party than the one that actually created it.
An author may not own the rights to their work after a company buys it, but the company cannot then turn around and change the facts of a work such as who made it. In many countries, the rights of the author even prevent the company from changing the artwork in such a way that the original author did not intend.
For example, in many countries, including the US and Japan, it would be illegal for a company to purchase someone's art, add nazi symbols to it, and then attribute it's creation to the original artist.

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>>63267963
>Anything submitted in those hashtags including designs or potential designs belongs to the company
Do they own those hashtags? Is that a special deal with Twitter/X? Is that on the terms of service of the website?
No one ever signed anything about it, they don't own shit if it's not based on their copyright

[Anonymous No.]

This shit is just going to kill the nijiEN community for every fanbase, its actually fuckin unbelievable how stupid it is that the retards on the male side can indirectly ruin things for women who largely operate without a hitch, fuck this nigga and fuck his dumbass hebe chinkoid fans with white fever

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>>63268968
Except the artist he credited used the original design as a reference and modified it making it an entirely different piece. If you actually examine them closely you'll notice a multitude of differences between the original and the piece he paid someone to create.
The design of that mascot in particular was originally created by the person he credited. And even if it weren't, keep in mind that many fan mascots aren't even commissioned they're designed by the communities and used because as per your agreement with the company anything you post for the people in it with the intention of potentially having that piece used by the people in it, it belongs to the company.

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>>63268775
You still don't seem to understand. Owning a piece of artwork or even owning the rights to it doesn't allow one to misattribute the creation of that artwork to someone else.
If that were legal, then I could hire a painter to make me a imitation Salvador Dali painting, and then because I own the rights to it, I coulf then attribute the creation of that art to the real Salvador Dali and sell it as an original. Owning something doesn't allow you to change the material facts about that thing.

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>>63268993
Those hashtags are a direct way for the talent to see any works that could potentially be used by the talent, it is implied that if you are posting something in that tag it is likely because you want that piece to be noticed and potentially used by the person you're posting it for.

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>>63265378
That's not even inspiration.
There is only so many poses you can do on a chair that are that particular mood.

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>>63269115
nice try, but the niji even admitted that the original creator's "axocat" drawing was the basis for his mascot.
He said he commissioned this other artist to draw that axocat with goggles.
So while I understand your argument being it's a derivative work and thus uncreditable, adding goggles to something does not equal Original Character Do Not Steal.

[Anonymous No.]

>https://twitter.com/YuQWilson/status/1728299564124274807
KWAB

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>>63263567
Another one bites the dust
https://twitter.com/YuQWilson/status/1728299564124274807

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>>63269169
If you're going to make a moral argument, or one of common understanding, then at which point did the original artist agree to have their own design credited to someone else?

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>>63269302
>>63269321
>suspended

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>>63269120
Except it kinda does when the guidelines express that they own that content. It'd be more like having Salvador Dali to paint you a piece of artwork and then having someone else paint over it changing the original content entirely.
Dali made that piece originally, sure, but he gave it to you knowing full well that you could modify it after he did so.

Or if you really wanna get technical, referencing artwork is perfectly legal and how most artists draw as posing is difficult. The piece in question was obviously referenced but it was referenced to create a new piece entirely.

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>>63263567
>LOOK AT ME I DREW A SIMPLE MASCOT AND I OWN THE RIGHTS TO IT DONUT STEEL
lmao. hope you're happy now that you got your oshi fired for petty drama, bitch

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>>63269302
How many days usually getting banned from nijisanji ??

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>>63269384
Just take a look at Kyo
He said 1 week break right?
He still hasn't returned btw

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>>63269115
its just a respect thing, fuckhead.
they used it as reference, it cost them nothing to just say once "thanks to Kitty for the original work". there is literally 0 good defense for this, its just petty bullshit, simple as. if you dont care then just admit "yeah its an asshole move like always but we dont care". i fucking swear every single time something like this happens the nijidefense force just come out with all kinds of mental gymnastics that make them look like garbage with no sense of ethics.

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>>63269384
Minor shit is usually 1 week. Anything that hurts nijisanji as a whole is a month

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>>63269410
Yes he has unfortunately

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>>63269169
Twitter is a website used for millions of people, all the time you have random arts posted on vtubers' hashtags because most of them has the word "art" in it. Doesn't mean that it's for the vtuber to use, there's nothing in the website's TOD that states that you're giving them the right to use any design posted on that hashtag. The mascot wasn't a copyright of Anycolor as it didn't exist yet.

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>>63269325
Technically he/she agreed to it when they posted it under their tag in an attempt to get their artwork noticed by the person themselves

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>>63269302
>>63269321
CAN’T GO ONE WEEK WITHOUT A SUSPENSION

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>>63269302
>>63269321
>Another shadow suspension
This is way too fucking funny

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>>63269422
I flat out said that from the beginning, I said he should have but that legally speaking he had the full rights not to.

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>>63269378
I suppose that would be fair, however, if for whatever reason it was brought up in court, and it probably never would, a judge would have to decide whether the new design is derivative enough to not require attribution to the original artist.

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>>63268473
I kneeled so hard when Pero hijacked FWMC Morning to indirectly shit on him

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>>63269464
Except it was designed to be an asset for the talent and designed solely for the purpose of being potentially used by the person whose hashtag they put it under and also who was literally featured in the design with the mascot

[Anonymous No.]

nijisanji really steals, no dignity

[Anonymous No.]

How long are these autists going to keep arguing about laws when the whole point is that it's messed up to use a fan's design without crediting them

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>>63269115
It's not an entirely different piece. It's basically the same thing but with a different artstyle.
The design is still the same. It's the same logic as why you can't just take Pikachu, make it rounder and red and claim it as your own original creation.

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>>63269557
If I posted AI art of Gura on that hashtag Nijisanji now owns Gura? I hope you realize how fucking retarded you are

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>>63263567
Kanata ripped her mascot off from minecraft and no one cared.

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>>63269565
M8 there have been like 3 different times where someone in holo JP flat out traced over someone else's art and advertised it as their own I'll be quite frank I'd rather have my piece referenced than sold as an original creation by someone who just traced over it

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>>63269472
No they didn't. You're confusing the rights of ownership with the right of attribution. I can't buy the rights to Star Wars and then sell it as if I directed the films instead of George Lucas.

[Anonymous No.]

Dancing on sisters grave

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>>63269628
Mc has an angel winged axolotl with star shaped halo?

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>>63269302
Too much bad PR = Suspended
JUST FUCKING CREDIT PEOPLE
ITS NOT HARD

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>>63269565
it's not stealing unless you get caught and enough people scream about it https://twitter.com/Demilogic/status/1558178733210624002
yes I'm bringing up this old dumb thing because I still think it's funny, and it proves that you just need to shut your mouth and hope nobody notices

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>>63265283
>Turboretard post
>Defending the already black Anykuro
Nijiintern at it again.

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>>63269642
It wasn't three separate times.
It was the same holo tracing the same artist (with that artist's permission) on three different pieces of art, but it was still scummy and shouldn't have happened. Nene completely stopped drawing as a result of that.

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>>63265403
>hey man i loved your design so much i hired a different artist to just copy it and then credited him and not you sorry!
what a good man.

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>>63265283
>whoever I want to credit, is none of your fucking business.
Wow, you'll fit right away if you apply at Nijisanji anon! This scumbag way of thinking really suits their philosophy!

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>>63269611
If you posted an AI generated piece of gura with the sole intention of the person whose hashtag you threw that piece under potentially using your works you would indeed forfeit the rights ( that you don't have since AI can't even be copyright according to scotus) to that piece to both hololive and possibly nijisanji since that piece was designed for Nijisanji but features a member of hololive.
It'd be confusing and most people would likely just overlook it due to it not really fitting in either.

But as per their guidelines any original creations designed for the company or the people in it are owned by the company since they are considered derivative of that IP

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>>63269742
>with that artist's permission
Maybe you should add that she got that artist permission after getting called out and the artist didn't want any drama.

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>>63269654
No but you can buy and change the complete canon of star wars without any input from the original creators or anyone involved in the original creation. Disney literally did just that which pissed the fuck out of Mark Hamill because he felt like they completely screwed up Luke.

Shit Disney literally retold episode 4 and passed it off as their own original thing because of the changes that they made

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>>63269410
>He still hasn't returned btw
retard it takes two seconds to check

[Anonymous No.]

nijifans might as well be pretzels at this point with how much they twist and turn to defend their pieces of shit

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>>63269968
they always get the gold medal in mental gymnastics

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>>63269721
I have never been more confused in my life even after reading all his replies
What weapon is he talking about?

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>>63269953
Yeah my bad
I'm not really up to date with NijiEN homos

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>>63263567
>>63264083
>>63264499
>>63264575
>NijiEN
>everyone on every side of this conflict is ESL
Flags, range bans, etc.

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>>63269935(me)
Actually if you want an even better example you can find that the best seller 50 Shades of Grey was originally a twilight fanfic and then the author changed a few names and details and made a series of books and movies that made her a millionaire.
She didn't even own the rights to the characters she just used them as "reference points" to create her own and then made millions off of it.

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>>63269642
NDF really likes to overexaggerate and flat out lie if it suits their ambitions huh

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>>63269302
>>63269321
NIJISANJI DOES IT AGAIN

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>>63270144
Nene literally did trace over artwork and only got the artists permission after she was called out for doing so. If you have something to the contrary feel free to point it out but I gotta say that Nene didn't even get a slap on the wrist for literally stealing someone else's art and claiming it to be her own. At least not from what I remember.

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>>63269432
Wait, what did Zaion do besides talking to another manager then, for her first suspension then?

[Anonymous No.]

It keeps happening!

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>>63270292
Hey faggot, you do know that the artist she was stealing from was sitting in front of her, in person.
Right?

You are embarrassing yourself to defend a shitty liver who steals art.

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>>63270335
Did she or did she not plagiarize art from someone else

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>>63270335
>Hey faggot, you do know that the artist she was stealing from was sitting in front of her, in person.
>Right?

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>>63270058
the Terraprisma, for some reason they just pasted the sprite in the video, I guess they were looking for rainbow colored objects on google or something

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What is with these nijiEN homos. Holy shit they just need to use their fucking brains and not antagonise their damn audience
>kyo refused to apologise about a touchy subject when he should just do it anyways
>this dude just straight up admits to using this persons design when he should’ve just linked to the original and give it a brief mention
They’re corporate vtubers, why do they keep responding in these ways

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Yeah I don't think Anykara will stop stealing anytime soon

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>>63265188
>RIAA hands typed this post

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>>63268168
>>63268408
Retard. Company rules are void if they go against law.

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>>63270451
Unlike Hololive, Niji hires them and lets them do their thing without any proper training and support. It's part of the business model to reduce costs and maximize publicity through frequent yab generation

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>>63270480
That one I'll give them a pass on. You can find countless designs using

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>>63270451
Anykuro didn't bother to train them pre-debut, so amateurish mistakes like these are really frequent.
You could argue that this is a really simple and sensible thing to do and that it's so hard to get it wrong, but this is vtuber that we're talking about, they are retarded.

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>>63270636
Yeah, I'll give them that

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>>63265544
Why are modern apologies all like this?
>I'm sorry, not because I said the wrong things, but because you got offended
>>63267963
>a hashtag is legally binding
lol

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The moral here seems to be don't make niji fan art unless they pay up.

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>>63270523
There is no law that says that you own the rights to a different company's IPs. If you create content specifically to be used by the company you are agreeing to their TOS and their TOS is certainly not illegal.

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>>63269520
For real? Can you give me a timestamp? I'd love to see it.

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>>63270710
Answer >>63269611

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>>63270696
With the right context yes. It'd be very easy to argue in front of a judge that this item in the hashtag was purposely posted for the content creator who uses the hashtag to notice. It was designed with the sole purpose of potentially being used by the content creator, the company and the very person featured in the artwork. per guideline agreements the content is legally owned by the company

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>>63269862
>according to scotus
Except SCOTUS doesn't rule Nihongoland.

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>>63270753
I did. I'm literally the only person who replied to it

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>>63269169
Anon anyone can use any hashtag. Enna's hashtags are filled with random indian porn sometimes. You're saying they take control of the hashtag and assume ownership of everything posted under that hashtag, it's legally incomprehensible.
Companies cannot write their own laws.

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MOM WE GOT ROUND 2
>https://twitter.com/YuQWilson/status/1728314483410420138

Fucking retard
he could've just let it stay behind the scene

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>>63270814
I'm saying that if you wanted to argue in front of a judge that the content posted in that hashtag was directly and purposely put there with the sole purpose of being used by the person who created the tag as a way to find artwork that per company guidelines, belonged to the company, it would be a very easy argument to make.

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>>63270846
What a fucking idiot. A simple thank you and a tag was all that was needed. Amazing he couldn't even manage that in the first place.

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>>63263567
This time, the fault is more on the artist autism.

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>>63270852
You
Do
Not
Own
Hashtags
Or
Anything
Posted
There

Do you need a picture so your 8 year old can finally get it through your underdeveloped brain?

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>>63270852
Is this really the way Nijisanji has been operating? Making up laws that "sound plausible"?

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>>63270795
No you moron. A hashtag is not legally binding

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>>63266784
The Yugioh thing is because when Kazuki Takahashi was licensing out the rights for the card game to Konami he expressly forbid cash prizes being given out in official Konami events (among other things like saying Konami of America cannot modify/censor artwork of cards he personally drew) partially because he hated the MTG community and how it was run.

[Anonymous No.]

Nijifags are hilarious
https://twitter.com/C4LPlC0/status/1728313836472615082?t=5azX5uGfcdAcwg78jqK3Nw&s=19

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>>63270846
GO GO RIKU, PATENT THAT DESIGN USING YOUR TERMS JUST SO YOUR BOY DONT NEED TO CREDIT THE ORIGINAL ARTIST

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>>63270846
What is there to figure out? The original artist said all he wants is a tweet explaining what happened to his audience and credit. Is that too much so now he has to do an entirely different mascot?

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>>63265544
>i did see your design at the time, really liked how cute it was
>used as a reference
Why did he not just ask the original creator

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>>63271080
Unironically it will enrage the original artist if he did change it after getting recognized

can't win this one I guess

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>>63270852
If you scrolled down right her on 4chan (which follows the same rules as twitter) you'd know just how wrong you are
>All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
Anycolor does not own that design, the artist was the one that made it and never passed ownership

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>>63270852
I worded this poorly sorry. I am actually eop despite how this post might look.

I'm trying to say that this artist posted the artwork in that hashtag as a way to be seen by the person they created the artwork for. The person is also featured in the artwork and they had the goal of their artwork being used by the talent. There is no question as to what or who the artwork was for, thus, the artwork would fall under the guidelines for derivative content and would belong to the company who could then choose to do as they please with the art. If you were to argue in front of a judge that this content fell within the guidelines that everyone agrees to when uploading artwork, you would have a very easy time with the case since anyone could clearly see it was designed to be used by the company and the people in it.
>>63270936
>>63270958
I hope that this clarifies things and it's not just Niji that operates this way. When your holo oshi uses a piece of artwork for the schedules or thumbnails they don't have to get permission to do so from the artists. They see it in their hashtags and as per guideline agreements they are allowed to use the art for whatever purpose they deem fit. They usually credit the artist and thank them but again as per guidelines, there isn't necessarily a need to do so. There are no restrictions on what can seemingly be done with the art by the talents themselves just as long as the artwork falls under the guidelines of cover

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>>63265991
That's not how it works lol. No one owns a hashtag. You don't get legal ownership of art just because someone is using a tag you like

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>>63270846
Honestly seems like he just feels bad about it and he doesn't want to force the artist to compromise on his behalf. I can respect it

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>>63271122
Except again, they do. The artwork was designed to be used by the talent in question and was in fact created for that sole purpose. It was posted under the assumption that it would follow the guidelines that everyone agrees to when they upload fan content.

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>>63271120
What are you talking about? It's very possible that the guy literally sent that image to the artist when he commissioned the design, all he has to do is credit one as the original concept and the other as the designer.

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>>63264575
Fwmc and this one is not even close kek

[Anonymous No.]

This is turning into some Japanese holdout shit.

The war is lost friends, your ESL understanding of questionably enforceable rules means little.

[Anonymous No.]

I dare one of you niggers mention that one dude who got pissy about the FWMC fan event kek

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>>63271409
It already has been. That comparison falls apart cause it wasn't about crediting work, but payment.

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>>63269517
It's already derivative enough he didn't use that artists design, he literally saw it, hired another artist and use that as REFERENCE, are you fucking retarded??
>Owning a piece of artwork or even owning the rights to it doesn't allow one to misattribute the creation of that artwork to someone else.
No the one who seems to be misunderstanding and purposefully ignore is that HE DIDN'T USE THE ARTISTS DESIGN! IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DESIGN (DOES IT LOOK SIMILAR? YES) STILL DOESN'T FUCKING MAKING THIS RETARDED ARTIST DESIGN (DID HE USE IT AS REFERENCE? YES sur-fucking-price retard billions of artists use REFERENCES of popular IP to draw inspiration and draw something completely NEW which maeriette DID) STILL HE IS NOT USING THIS ARTISTS SUBMITTED DESIGN (Kitty) THE FINAL OFFICIAL DESIGN WAS DONE BY MAERIETTE.

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>>63271050
Do nijikeks fucking really? Even the nijifags on this board do not manage copes this pathetic. Self-imposed suspension? kek

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>>63271521
kek nevermind then

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>>63263567
The fan design is way better

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>>63271538
Ehhhh they've got a point tho. When Kyo was suspended he went twitter silent for over a week and didn't show up anywhere else. When Millie was suspended she went twitter silent for like 2 weeks and didn't show up anywhere else.
It actually does seem like a self imposed suspension more than anything else

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i wanna take this moment to remind everyone that takodachis are basically just slicksters from Oxygen Not Included.
theres only so many designs of you can make from some animals that are cute before it mimics similar designs.
while yes we know he referenced the artists design, its not the same design and was modified for his purposes.
should he have gave a little credit?
maybe but fundamentally you dont have to credit disney if you make a lion that looks similar to lion king lions.

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>>63271640
The design is almost identical and it was specifically sent to him by a fan. It's not some random design he saw in the wild that he took inspiration from

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>>63271640
>whataboutism
He got suspended sister. You can stop now. Nothing you do will change this fact

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>>63271526
You don't need to yell at him but you are correct. The original artist should have been credited tho

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>>63271749
I don't honestly think he did. Kyo tweeted once before his suspension and didn't show up anywhere else. This guy's tweeted like 3x and has talked about showing up elsewhere. Maybe he's working with both the artists to create a combination of a mascot?

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>>63271526
This is the same as arguing Sonichu is an original design, it just used references.

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>>63267963
> live transmissions (livestreams)
> trimmings (clipping)
> deformations (chibi)
This is some DeepL shit.
These fuckers have an English branch with like 40+ talents and they don't have the money to hire ONE guy to do a proper English translation for their official stuff?
Are they really that cheap?

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>>63271786
Oh I'm sure he decided to take a break right after getting caught stealing art
What a nice coincidence

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>>63271640
Nah, disney should've credited osamu tezuka for lion king.

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>>63263567
it's just a yellow Axolotl, you can't claim to own that.

[Anonymous No.]

youself also agreed it looks similar so why insisting it's a "completely different design"?
if it's similar enough, it's stealing

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>>63271721
thats why i said
>while yes we know he referenced the artists design
>should he have gave a little credit? maybe
either way theres only so many ways you can draw a chibi axolotl mixed with a cat.
look at the slugcat in pic related, are you telling me the original artist in OP is copying rivulets design?
>>63271975
ironically this adds to my point since YMS already went over how theres only so many things you can do with the setting of the savanna and a bunch of super old comics did most of the same plot beats before even kimba the white lion.

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>>63271949
How else do you think their financial reports look that good? Certainly not by paying people adequately

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>>63272117
Thats not orange nor does it have blue eyes nor does it have orange/red tinted goggles

[Anonymous No.]

>>63263567
kek

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>>63272141
This.
He copied it down to the most miniscule detail.
That is no longer "taking inspiration" that is fucking stealing.

[Anonymous No.]

Kek Does Nijisanji have lawyers that livers can consult? Shouldn't have said that they used it as reference. That's the killer in kost plagiarism cases

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>>63270744
https://youtu.be/dZwzqM4UOME?t=1129
> But y'know
> The most important thing is
> And I dunno how some of you (didn't) got it
> We don't want your jingle if you're not a Ruffian
> This is something for you Ruffians to do to get closer to FuwaMoco and vice versa
> It's about PASSION
> So, don't worry if you're never made something or have a musical bone in your body
> It's about trying something new y'know
https://youtu.be/dZwzqM4UOME?t=1189
> Now, remember, the most important thing
> You have to be a Ruffian to enter. Got it?
> Yeah, ok.

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>>63272117
The two designs in the OP are way more similar than your pic. What a silly comparison

[Anonymous No.]

>>63272141
a sonic oc being purple doesnt make it not just purple sonic the hedgehog anon...
also OP shows a blue one and it looks like a less pokemony mudkip
>>63272206
sorry anon but this doesnt reach copyright infringement even if it was copyright protected in either america or japan

[Anonymous No.]

False promises
Shady terminations
Underpaying talents
Racism
Plagiarism

They have it all

[Anonymous No.]

>>63265680
Seriously, wtf. What kind of retards—it's Nijisanji. It's hopeless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63272250
>>63272117
Neither of these match the one in the OP. Try again

[Anonymous No.]

>>63271965
I mean he literally said he was trying to work something out for the mascot creation. From the way that artist talks it seems like there's something planned for their half anniversary soon? Idk man I'm just saying that I haven't seen anyone else who has been suspended showing up on other people's channels post suspension. They get sent to the corner and told to think about what they did

[Anonymous No.]

It's always something

[Anonymous No.]

>>63271526
Putting sunglasses on pikachu and then calling him my Totally Original Character Do Not Steal isn't gonna work, you sand-eating retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63263567
based NijiEN giving us new tasty drama. I'm expecting the catalog to be full of deflection threads attacking anything but NijiEN (like usual)

[Anonymous No.]

>>63272391
If Chris-chan can do it why can't Niji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>63266788
If only you knew.. The weird thing is they're all idiosyncratically weird psychos, not like a fixed thing
t. Canadian

[Anonymous No.]

>>63272250
>>63272117
>>63271640
You're really doing a bad job at this by showing the problem with Wilsoneers. Designs under a generally similar concept will have similarities. But we can easily see when something is in fact distinct. Takos similar features are done in very different ways, and some like the ear nubs can be traced back to Ina's design. Mudkips might share a colour scheme with one of the fan vers, but that's about it even the similar ideas like has a tail look entirely different.

Meanwhile in the OP all the core design elements are the same. Its not just well it has cat ears instead of some big head fin. Its the whiskers are pretty much the same but wavy. Both have goggles as both were intended to reference his goggles. Not something inherent to the idea of an axolotls.

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>>63272443
Chris-chan isnt a corpo. He is a no name loser that raped his mother

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>>63268688
Mori removing his music from her intro did enough emotional damage to him he immediately left the scene and straight never talked about anything VTuber related anymore

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>>63264083
Men are retarded and menhera. Men moment, for short.

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>>63272457
How do you know the Niji hasn't raped his mother?

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>>63272493
Fair point

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>>63263567
New design is honestly kind of uggo compared to the old one even if it was made by a popular artist, hope it was worth it frogboy

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>>63272603
Isn't the black one the frog

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>>63270387
It was a reference, and Namori - the artist - did retweet her merch afterwards.

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>>63272314
>inner ears are a different colors
>the eyes arent the same color and are bigger
>pink mouths are default mouth colors for most animals
>tail lacks stripes
>paw pads are included in any cat mixed design
like i said anon theres only so many ways to design something before it mimics similar pre existing designs, refer to my takodachi and slickster post.
the closest thing to one to one copying is the goggles themselves which come from the guys actual design.
>>63272455
you are right im not framing it properly but i used rivulet slugcat as an example because its concept is a mix of a cat and an axolotl too.
but where as the fan design and rivulet read more as cats, the final design reads more plush toy like because of the legs being cylinders instead of multi jointed legs.
>some like the ear nubs can be traced back to Ina's design
this actual traces back to the base animal for both of them, being a dumbo octopus, on top of also being a shared feature with ina.

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>>63267070
>make him change the design
>as the artist already pointed out, there's a half anniversary celebration coming and making him change it would mess their plans
>the fanbase attacks artist for "causing trouble"
Have you never seen how nijifans behave online?

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>>63267174
Pachinko uses a stupid loophole

>The machine doesn't award you with cash just worthless tokens you can take home
>Outside the pachinko parlors you can see a "totally separate and legally distinct shop" that just happens to buy pachinko tokens for cash

It's like Neko Neko Finyance shenanigans except the sexy fat catto is replaced with possible yakuza thugs

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What's in the water in Quebec that makes them act the way they do?

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>>63270292
ろる
るまお

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>>63272824
not even nijifag exclusive, this is just a human thing where if someone makes a stink about something being bad the group will attack them for doing so.
holofags do it, vshojofags do it, indiefags do it, people in this very thread are doing it, im doing it.
this isnt a whataboutism, this is just stating its common among all communities.
>>63272906
its not in the water anon... its in the blood...

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>>63265020
I imagine that when they design merch, they would have to pay two people to use their design, think about the yacht, anon.

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It's kinda hard for me to agree with an internet artist because they crybully for the pettiest reasons all the time, but he really did go out of his way to make them mad

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Meanwhile in the JP side of things, a fans design was used for a Ririmu outfit and they were over the moon.
God the west are cancerous.
Fucking Deviantfart "original content donut steel" fuckwits.

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>>63273355
Ririmus outfit wasn't stolen

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>>63263567
>i own this imaginary creature. only my brain could possibly have come up with this.
twitter artists are so fucking annoying i hope they all get eviscerated.

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>>63272925
Ah she did get a slap on the wrist my mistake

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>>63272786
>but i used rivulet slugcat as an example because its concept is a mix of a cat and an axolotl too
Which undermines your point, its the same basic idea but entirely different in execution. Not er well they changed the inside ear color. These aren't coincidental design choices cause it is the same base concept. But as already admitted an iteration on the fan art.

>theres only so many ways to design
There are more than 2. You can easily come up with your own spin on it. Make the feet more like axolotls, combine the gills and cat ears, make the goggles look more like a collar, experiment with different cat body types, faces and markings.

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>>63272824
Literally nobody is attacking the artist though, I actually mean it. Not even containment breakers seem to be interested in it.
All the comments are tagging the Wilson guy and all the quote tweets are literally saying
>I'm disappointed to find out that Wilson did this hope it gets resolved
I've seen way worse from accounts that have shit like "holosimp" or "ban" in them

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>>63265544
w... why didnt he just commission the original artist? what??? he liked the design so much so he hired another artist to fucking redraw it? i cant wrap my fucking head around this

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>>63273670
Good question honestly

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>>63273670
Why pay when you can steal

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>>63271949
2%sanji? Cheap? Whatever gave you that idea? Haven't you seen their merch? It looks like they've got a massive fucking budget for it.

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>>63272213
Thank you. Kinda unexpected for them to show some teeth, but not unwelcome.

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Couldn't he just commission the same artist again to design something similar? This feels so stupid.

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>>63273355
Which outfit?

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What a confusing and retarded drama. Luca or whoever it was got away with stealing holo songs to use as BGM. Literally all he had to do was ignore it but instead he acknowledged it and refused to credit the artist anyway because of niji policies? What?

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>>63274027
Niji organs are called livers, not brains ok

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>>63272484
This
There is no single male vtuber that is mentally stable