/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>Marine : "This NPC is a walking atm."
>Lui : "So he's a hololive fan."
I know Lui isn't the only holo who thinks this way. I wonder what other fucked up things do other holomems think of their fans.

[Anonymous No.]

ぜんぶ

[Anonymous No.]

>>63262434
Sisters lacking so much Holodrama, they're bringing up shit from a year+ ago. Don't worry, I'm sure Niji will start yabbing again before the shakes start, sis.

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>>63262434
That famous Korone phrase about why she tries so hard paints a very vivid picture as to why she chooses to act the way she does, and the type of people watching vtubers.
Most vtubers would rather not date/marry a fan. Most vtubers have openly said they would prefer not to date someone into vtubers.
It is not hard to imagine why.
That *hits pipe* daughter copy pasta could be said about vtuber fans and vtubers too.

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>>63262601
HOLOSEETHE

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>>63262855
Try to construct your own memes, 2%sanji. Thought you didn't wanna be like the HoloCHADs anymore?

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>>63262773
>That famous Korone phrase
what famous phrase?

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>>63263855
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbwsZ2D3wto
This one, ofcourse. What else could it be?

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>>63263855
The about not dating while you’re an idol for the sake of your fans. It basically implies that an idol should keep up an image for the sake of the fans, which implies that it’s just an image (which every non-schizo gets). It also somewhat implies that they see their fans as a collective and don’t want to pick favorites by getting to know them.
I don’t think this necessarily means they hate their fans or see them only as ATMs. I think they’re just being honest that meeting your oshi’s rm irl would be way more awkward than the more delusional gachis admit.

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>>63264395
How convenient of you to leave out the parts of viewer of having shitty jobs, having possibly no friends and being disliked at work, having no girlfriends AND still choosing to give money to women they will never meet. It speaks of both her dedication to fans which is admirable, but you have to be huffing paint to think this is not describing a very pathetic man.

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>>63262434
Only give money to women who fuck you

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>>63262773
>*hits pipe*
kek

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>>63262434
Really? We're going to timeloop this?
No, EOP. That's not what they said.

They were playing Mahjong and the NPC was giving them all the tiles they needed for the best hand combinations.
So Marine says, "Wow, this NPC is like a tile ATM."
Lui replies with, "It's a holofan."
As in, it was letting them win similar to the way that their fans stop at the finish line for Mario Kart, Fall Guys, etc.
Even if Lui thought of her fans as ATMs, do you really think she'd be stupid enough to say that on the main channel in front of everyone?

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>>63265048
Stop. You're not supposed to actually watch streams, you're supposed to take bits of out of context phrases to engineer a "yab".

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>>63264395
>>63264921
>not posting it

[Anonymous No.]

>>63262855
>Niji ca'nt meme

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>>63262434
post proof FAGGOT
DIE DIE DIE DIE

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>>63262434
Wait what? But everyone has told me that JP holo's were better than EN. I've never heard any EN call their fans ATMs. Ummm... JPbros, can you please explain this?

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>months old drama reported for no reason
Did Niji fuck up again somewhere?

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>>63262434
>>63262601
>>63263229
>>63265048
>>63265187
>>63268017
>>63268049
Just a reminder that Lui is the 3rd most hated for nips. They got THAT offended. You literally cannot deny this.

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>>63263855
>the everyday life you take for granted will one day crumble
Or something along those lines

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>>63268265
Towa...

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>>63268265
2 nukes weren't enough

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>>63268265
Japs being retards, what else is new?

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>>63268265
Japs love Mori.

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>>63268265
What did shion and miko even do to be so high up there?
>Coco
Wot.

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>>63268265
The other ones are pretty obvious but why do they hate Miko?

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>>63262434
>Marine : "This NPC is a walking atm."
>Lui : "So he's a hololive fan."
In my case, she's not wrong. I am literally my oshi's wallet.

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>>63269261
mori san kakkoi her rap is berry berry gud she is rike a white m&m

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>>63269316
>>63269365
It's from her activities prior to Holo where they basically never let go and still hate her to this day, going schizo and everything. They also hate the 35p fanbase.

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>>63268265
if it were only for the npc comment she wouldn't be that far down since almost every holo has a gaffe like that in their past
the problem with lui is that she has a situation like that every month since her only mode of banter seems to be just shitting on people and being very bad at toeing the line of what's acceptable to make fun of
>>63269316
>shion
valo player, doesn't stream a lot, plays with men off stream, same reason people like laplus or ayame are down there
>coco
same reason rushia is there, graduated holos aren't seen in a very positive light
>miko
this one is more schizoid but she's perceived as a "kouhai crusher", but it's more of a consequence of the fact that nousagi and 35p fight on every board that remotely talks about holos

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>>63269573
>They also hate the 35p fanbase.
For good reason. 1080p is where it's at.

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>>63269316
Anyone can go vote. You don't need a Japanese IP. Naturally, Coco fell to the bottom during the chinkout when they spammed hate on her page.

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>>63269608
This guy actually knows what he's talking about. Miko's page has basically become the schizo battleground where different anti-hololive schizo groups come to fight in hand to hand combat.

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>>63269908
Ah, makes sense. Was gonna say that coco had a much stellar rep that still carries her in the jp scene to this day so was surprised at her ranking.

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>>63267529
Korone is based. She knows the value of the character she plays. At least, put some effort in setting aside your RL when entertaining the fans.

I hope she finds someone who loves her IRL and doesn't recognize that she is a vtuber until late into the relationship. And she never tells us even after graduation, like a pro.

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>>63270295
I'm not sure Korone's intention with writing that was to suggest that idols should lie, anon.
There's a chance you're misunderstanding because of a mistranslation.

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>>63269608
What kind of banter we talking here? Ina style "imagine getting mad at anime girl playing games" or Kronii style "do you not have female friends"?

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>>63268265
>Leeching pink whore that high
Good.

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>>63272240
>Leeching is when chuba I don't like
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

Keep posting Lui rrats! I love reading them!

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>>63262434
All of them see the fans as money by default. None of them applied to hololive just because they wanted to live their idol dream or whatever the fuck, it was for easy money. The exception to this in the entire company is probably Ina. Everyone else did it (and still do it) for the money. It's the same reason amateur actors wanna make it big, or why musicians wanna sign with a big record label. Money is the blood of the planet and Hololive streamers know this so they follow the money.

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>>63262601
>Niji will start yabbing again
fresh yab, niji stealth suspension for copyright stuff.

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>>63273336
>copyright stuff.
Oof. What's it about? Copyright stuff is always problematic with corpos.

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>>63268265
>Lui more hated than Rushia
Goddamn they really got butthurt about the ATM comment

[Anonymous No.]

I hope JP schizos go ahead with kidnappings already.

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>>63274171
100% guarantee the chart isn't based on any reliable sort of data.

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>>63275078
Imagine even discussing listicles.

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>>63270730
/#/ but worse.
They have it that bad

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>>63262434
thats how all attractive females view men

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>>63268265
She is actually hated for being a Laplus apologist, the ATM comments were literally a nothingburger retard.

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Wait a fucking minute, i remember jap speaking anon telling me that this was just a mistranslation/inside joke turned into meme.

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>>63270578
That's a good point.
Re: "lying"
My best-guess foreigner interpretation of what she's saying, is that even if your vTuber persona/kayfabe is a mask, you should try to become that mask. Give yourself to the character, or "the bit." The more you become it, in fact, the less of a lie it is.
Just don't go Heath Ledger.

[Anonymous No.]

Lui saw her father pleading her mom for another chance in tears. And naturally she came to think basically men were her slave and then all his earnings belonged to her.
You can’t blame her because it’s her mother who raised her to be an elite dominatrix.

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>>63262434
Based Lui

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>>63275071
They don't have the brawn for it.

Also, flu season, pls andastand

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>>63262434
so what is giftcord trying to swipe under the rug today? the wilson stealing art thing?

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>>63264395
>>63264921
>>63267529
People always bring this pasta but never a proof that Korone actually said it.

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>>63262434
poor lui

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>>63268265
That's a relative chart. If they're all well loved it wouldn't need to be a big thing to move to the top of it.

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>>63269573
>It's from her activities prior to Holo
I thought that former JAV actresses (even amateur ones) is nothing that extraordinary in Japan?

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>>63268265
>Using website filled with VTuber haters who also downvotes Akasaka Aka for interacting with VTubers as a reference
Retard

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>>63268265
>Laplus 1st place
HOLY BASED
nipponnikis... I kneel.

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>>63276633
>She is actually hated for being a Laplus apologist
Is there even anyone in HoloX that views Laplus negatively? feels like they all get along with her on the rare collabs where she appears.

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>>63262434
Sounds like a simple joke to me but then again /VT/ are absolute psychos

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>>63275078
>reliable data
it's literally just votes why the fuck are you even assuming there's "data" involved?

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>>63282946
>Using website filled with VTuber haters
I feel like that's pretty much every website in Japan
Japanese fleshstreamer fans are actually one of the most cancerous things I've seen in years, the country is genuinely just overrun with sociopathic goblins none of them go outside and they just violently shitpost all day
I remember a poll asking young girls what hobby they found least acceptable for their boyfriend to have and "vtubing" was either #1 or #2
It really feels like it's impossible for people to just be nuetral about them there

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>>63273936
Niji talent traced and stole artwork for his merch.

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>>63280897
>Laplus Darkness, do you like her? hate her?
>Results
>Liked by: 35.7%
>203259 votes
>Disliked by: 64.3%
>366060 votes

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>>63279991
it was a transcript from an age old video no longer available
there's no reason to deny the age old transcript though, it was discussed as if it happened by people at the time based on scraps of commentary available
it's not as if the statement was a contentious one to make for her back then so it doesn't make sense for it to be some anti fabrication
basically occam's razor

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>>63287632
I've heard it was said by a different person entirely, who happened to have a similar name and thus, by partially censoring the name, someone deliberately presented it as attributed to the wrong person.
Honestly it doesn't feel like something she would say at all, but in either case it's ancient, so we'd do well forgetting it as it surely has no relevance anymore.

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>>63286082
Chloe hates laplus.

[Anonymous No.]

teacucks will try to memoryhole it but Ame also called her fans walking ATMs

[Anonymous No.]

>>63268194
Ame called teamates walking atms a couple years ago

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>>63287833
>I've heard it was said by a different person entirely
Whoever said that was schizophrenic since you can literally just Google the Japanese text in the original image and find conversations about the quote and literally none of it suggests anything like what you're implying
>it doesn't feel like something she would say at all
...What? Korone is literally exactly the kind of person who would say something like that. That's an endearing, heart-warming sentiment that is common for idols and idol fans to have. It boils down to not betraying your fans by being in a relationship when you being single is one of the very few expectations your fans have for you while showering you with love and money, while having nothing in their lives but you to get them through the day.
>it surely has no relevance anymore
Nigger what? You realize you're implying that Korone became less kind by saying this, right?
Hell, she still chooses to never collab with guys despite absolutely being able to away with it. It's only ever been professional appearances and tournaments. And Korone was never somebody who leaned on GFE nor started out with idol branding either(her gen is literally called Gamers for a reason). Yet she still stays away from freely associating with dudes like she used to. Think before you say non-sense.

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>>63288903
Korone is very GFE in her member streams though

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>>63288903
She didn't even consider herself an idol at all for the first two years or so, and if she ever made that statement, it was from the perspective of a fan, not from the perspective of an idol.

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>>63269608
This anon is right. He knows what he’s talking about. Shion is pretty much a smarter laplus but if you dig enough she’s just like laplus and even matsuri.
Miko’s hate is just full fledged schizophrenia. They keep making up shit to crush her but she’s done nothing at all to deserve it. Her board is also used as a hololive anti general.

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>>63289138
>she didn't even consider herself an idol
I mean yeah? And? She literally debuted under their one and only real attempt to branch out from the idol moniker before they conclusively decided to stick with it instead because of the success.
>it was made from the perspective of a fan, not from the perspective of an idol
I have literally no idea what point you would even be trying to make with this separation. Unless you're underhandedly suggesting that she "sold out" or some kind of anti bullshit like that just like her NND schizos do

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>>63269573
This guy is lying. They hate Miko because they are insane. Her board is an anti nest nowadays.
Her former activities pretty much are unexistent as she was just a regular streamer and she never did anything to get any kind of hate. The JAV is not her and that there are people still spreading that shit is pure retardation.

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>>63289105
Yeah but she doesn't lean on it is the core part of my point. She doesn't need to do it to succeed. She does it because she loves her fans.

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>>63289614
The fucking point is that you keep quoting a remark a person *supposedly* made 10 years ago when they were a nobody, and people pretend like it applies 1:1 to the person she currently is and her current situation. Just forget about it and watch her, the real her, not some old irrelevant quote that got stuck in your head.

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>>63289653
wait wait I think you're probably conflating that dude with the JAV schizo, she 100% does have super old NND hyperschizo antis
>she never did anything to get any kind of hate
she was a female streamer on NND
since when do those faggots hate people for rational reasons lmao

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>>63289733
>10
closer to half that but okay
>the real her
everything in that quote exemplifies exactly the qualities I like her though so I really don't see the issue of bringing it up? She has never once done or said a single thing that could be construed to claim that she doesn't feel that way. It's not like she said it when she was a teenager or something, she was already pushing 30 at the time

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>>63289841
My point was that the hate she’s got on her is 100% undeserved. She hasn’t done anything particularly wrong to deserve hate.
People can not like her personality or her content but to justify hating her when she’s inoffensive as fuck is just mental illness. There was another anon suggesting the JAV thing so I take the chance to also refute that despite not being you the one who said it.

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Is she wrong? You losers always buy up their cheaply made chinese shit within 10 minutes of announcement, less for the more relevant holos.

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>>63285751
They hate her has much as the EN fanbase "hate"Mori.
And she's even worse most dont know how good we have it here.

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>>63286082
Saying anything would just be rrat and dreams territory but Chloe and Koyori barely collab and interact with her.
So we cant say if those two view her negatively or just dont wanna bother

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>>63269316
People have to stop thinking that people didn't hate Coco before the China thing. She was always a controversial member but the china stuff was what made that become more aggressive outside of Japan and people had to start acting like she was always a well regarded member to counter that despite that not being true.

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>>63292214
Actually laplus always says nice things about koyori and koyori doesn’t really dodge her. I don’t think they are on bad terms.

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>>63282946
Yeah sukikirai is itself a big place for haters. It's a great place for them to express their hate because they can't do it as effectively anywhere else. Antis can also vote many times within some time limit (once a day?) so 20K kirai on a person doesn't mean 20K different people came and pressed that.

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>>63293988
those 20k? All me.

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>>63289410
Her board? What site are you talking abiut, the one that starts with n?

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>>63294718
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>>63269415
I'm sure your ARS bucks are doing her real good, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>63295209
>ARS
No. I'm an ameriGOD with a valuable currency. I would never insult my oshi by using monopoly money