/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

So do you think Kiara's nail painting collab really the main cause of enforcing "no-skin"?

[Anonymous No.]

Yes. Kiara ruins everything.

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>>63201978
I thought they already aren't allowed to show skin during handcam streams before

[Anonymous No.]

calli's chubby hands ruined

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>>63202289
Was a touch and go based on the talent, history, context, and event
No one really seemed to care when Shiori showed off her entire hands, wrists, arms, and some of her chest on the pumpking carving stream, nor Nene's beetle streams (only hands though)

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>>63202323
>chubby
They were literally the same size as Kiara's lol

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>>63202421
Back in 2021 Millie accidentally showed her skin in her handcam and had to private it to crop out that part. I thought it already was common sense not to show skin in Holo and Niji

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>>63201978
Probably not. Otherwise Nene wouldn't have briefly privated her handcam stream which was done before that too.

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>>63201978
It's probably because they're planning on recruiting more brown and maybe black talents.

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>>63202323
>ollie and mori collab
>Their hands take up the entirety of the table and the camera has to be pushed back 10 feet

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>>63202488
Retard

[Anonymous No.]

Something I heard once: Ads for alcohol almost never show anyone actually drinking on screen, even though there is not an explicit law against it. If ads were to start showing people drinking, the regulators might ban showing people drinking and/or start putting other restrictions on them, so they stay well within bounds in order to ensure those boundaries stay where they are.

Its something like that, maybe.

[Anonymous No.]

>three (3) different managers all knew and approved collab
>collab is even about NAIL PAINTING so there's not even the excuse of 'oh we thought they were just cooking or something we all simultaneously overlooked they were showing fingers

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>>63203496
>Expecting Japanese to pay attention to white girls and/or haffus

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>>63201978
>It's Kiara's fault they canceled hand cam streams because people made fun of Mori's bloated hands
Maybe mori should order a sald once in a while.

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>>63201978
It was probably the last straw situation. Other girls were doing it as well(shiori and nene as an anon said). And management decided to out right ban it.
Before it was usually gloves and long sleeves with the occasional accident. It's possible they were worried if they didn't draw a line some girls like mori would just keep trying to push how far they can go.

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kiara likely lied and said they'd cut tiny holes in the gloves to just barely be able to paint nails and it would be almost entirely covered besides that exposed part, but as soon as management went 'ok' she went full YASS DAS RITE and the rest is history

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>>63201978
It's because her next idea was to have a shaving stream

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>>63202445
No. No they're not.

[Anonymous No.]

Management knew full and well what the stream was gonna be
Management is also dumb

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>>63203856
>if they didn't draw a line some girls like mori would just keep trying to push how far they can go.
Haachama literally did an entire bit about jokingly revealing her face, but she was wearing a gorilla mask
Like >>63202421 said it was very much a "up to your own discretion" kinda thing due to being a split opinion amongst managers and they were ok with prior stuff (this collab got approve, Nene Laplus, and Mori have done it before, Haachama did it in 2021, Kobo and Shori unintentionally showed their wrist for example)
It was just a matter of time before management came up with definitive answer

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>>63204368
You might need to get your eyes checked cause every time they held hands close to the camera, they hands looked near exact

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive playing it as safe as they can ruining the soul of everything they do nowadays.

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>>63204226
Kiara has streamed with gloves like that before. If it was a complaint, they would've levied it against her sooner. Your rrat is stillborn, sorry anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLOLjo-_8Ac

My personal rrat is, is because it showed that whites are paler than the Japanese. Nihonjins are insecure like that.

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>>63204592
>>63202445
COPE

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>>63204592
Nta but I'm gonna throw this shot in the mix
IMO Mori>Kiara>IRyS on hand size

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>>63204226
>an ogre, mountain jew, and halfling walking around Japan with freshly painted nails they just showed off on stream

Yeah, no security concerns there. No wonder Cover put an end to this stuff.

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>>63202488
>Millie
Who cares? We're taking about Hololive's rules.

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>>63204797
>Oh nyo 2 white women and an asian girl in Toyoko, now everyone will geolocation their location!
Do you guys ever stop to think about how retarded you sound?

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>>63204716
BBW fetishchama....pls stop projecting your fetish onto Mori

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My rrat is that bae, shiori, bijou, or Kronii complained to management about not being able to show their skin because it’s too dark and management decided to just ban it for everyone

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>>63205073
You realize that Kronii is Korean right?

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>>63204975

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>>63201978
I really think its to attract muslim fanbase and increase audience. Skin is haram

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>>63201978
No shit? They were allowing it for small things where the focus wasn't the hands itself and she went and made a 3 hour collab where the entire focus was on looking at the end

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>>63205302
I'm not sure if you're American, British, Or Turkish, but that's generally considered very fat.

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>>63205302
>Blurry unflattering screenshot from 2021
Ebin.........

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>>63201978
No.
Because this happened 3 days ago.
https://twitter.com/momosuzunene/status/1726529545711599741
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTqZ42lfmrk

[Anonymous No.]

>>63202323
>>63203700
>>63204716
>>63205302
The sad state of Mori antis.

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>>63205371
Did she do a handcam with her beetles yet? I haven't kept track of her, but if she did I'd wanna see.

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>>63204797
>mori and kiara

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>>63205326
>No shit? They were allowing it for small things where the focus wasn't the hands itself
>The focus of hand cam streams AREN'T their hands
Powerful message......

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>>63205356
>>63205359
>>63205373

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>>63205445
It totally ruined the immersion for me seeing their hands being clipped and posted everywhere like some kind of flesh streamer. They should've privated the vod too. This isn't what vtubing is about

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>>63201978
>gee guys do you think this bare hand stream that management approved is why management banned bare hands?
I'm gonna go with no

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>>63205538
>I didn't like it = This isn't what vtubing is about
Powerful quote from anonchama

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>>63204797
>Two are open about their RMs and even shill them on the regular
>The other has pics easily accessible online
Any possible schizo stalker would already know what they look like. The nail thing ads no information of value. So how does that represent a security concern?

[Anonymous No.]

Most likely this was an implicit rule, as is common in Japanese custom. ENs did this stream knowing there was no hard rule against it, but aware it’s frowned upon. Upper management decided to make it an official rule to prevent further boundary-testing in this area.

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>>63205538
>not wanting to see your oshi's hands
You are the most low-test faggot on this entire board.

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>>63203700
made me LOL irl

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>>63205754
>Acting as if JP members like Nene didn't do it first.
You don't watch JP streams so stop pretending that you know "japanese customs"

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>>63204797
Anon, you don't go outside do you.

[Anonymous No.]

>if you dont watch a no-name jap failed idol streamer you don't know anything about japanese customs

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>>63204462
I guess they must've figured "eh, couldn't hurt" then saw it and decided "eh, too risky"

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>>63206750
How is it risky? They're just retarded

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>>63204462
maybe im reading too much into this but this part seems kinda melancholic

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>>63205776
I'm here for virtual youtubers you doxxfag. Go back

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>>63206061
Read it again, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63207284
>doxxfag
>vtubers literally showing their own hands willingly
>mori and calli
your not too bright are you?

[Anonymous No.]

>Mori has more fun with the girls than the boys
>SHUT IT DOWN!

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>>63207284
fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

My guess is IRyS specifically has retarded management, a legacy of the retarded Vsinger idea. One manager said yes, another wasn't told anything, and the one who was out of the loop had a hissy fit about branding and shit after the stream and went to cry to upper management about it.

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>>63204754
I know it's fun and easy to shit on Mori, but her hands were perfectly normal size. No she didn't have anorexic skeletal fingers like Laplus, but who cares?

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>>63204754
Top hand is cute

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>>63208713
Based retard not including the length of their fingers in the measurement

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>>63207495
Wanting ti see their irl flesh is the same as the doxxfag motives, consensual or not
It's not related to vtubing and had no place in it despite how much your twitch ewhores try to normalize it

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>>63208946
and who are my twitch ewhores again?

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>>63207094
Kiara really wanted to wax Mumei

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>>63201978
maybe they were grossed out by irys talking about nails turning blue

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>>63201978
Who cares.
KFP is fucking dead

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>>63208713
leftmost is a fatty,who's that?

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>>63209998
you mum

[Anonymous No.]

I miss the time when COVER allowed their talents to be creative without stupid restrictions.

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>>63210214
When was that?

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>>63209998
Take a good long guess.

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>>63210268
Before Mio streamed Ghost Trick.

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>>63208713
do you think Kiara and Irys ever make fun of Mori's weight in their minds when they see her

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>>63208713
shiko shiko shiko imagine all 3 of those hands cooperating to jerk you off

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>>63210723
are they women?

[Anonymous No.]

Wait, so what happened? I'm out of the loop with the nail saloon stuff

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>>63210762
why are they so mean bros

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>>63210817
makes you think, is this board full of women too?

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>>63201978
>japanese company
>making decisions that quickly
it was in the works for several months it was just unfortunate timing

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>>63210723
I think Kiara actually prefers Mori to be heavier.

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>>63210945
The fact that Kiara got the okay and did the stream mere days before the rule change rules out your theory.

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>>63201978
Whether or not it was the cause, it doesn't matter. Handcams are fleshtubing content and if you want that kind of thing I suggest you go look at twitch whores instead of vtubers.

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>>63208713
H-Hot, these are the hands they use to finger themselves when masturbating.

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This isn't the type of thing you make a snap reactionary decision on, especially when streams already have to be approved beforehand. It was probably an ongoing concern for management for some time now and they just finalized those restrictions.

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>>63211117
what if the holomembers want that kind of thing?
they do

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>>63208713
I expected calli’s to be bloated ogre hands, but they just look normal. Kinda disappointed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>63210268
before the 2nd half of 2020

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>>63211117
Twitch whores better be showing a lot more than just their fucking hands.

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>>63211116
>thinking holoen management has any insight into holo management
roru

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>>63211116
Nta but the nail painting vod is still up, so it's not like you can say it's specifically the nail painting collab that caused the rule to be made, because otherwise it would've been taken down or privated
Like the other anon said, slow managerial decision and communication makes more sense from a logical standpoint

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>>63210723
I know it's haha meme what a fatty, but Mori isn't some obese whale. She's probably got about 20 pounds she wishes she didn't, but she's firmly in the 'pleasantly thick' category. Almost every anon here would cream their pants if a girl like her was interested in them.

[Anonymous No.]

That + Shiori pumpkin stream that was edited to remove her showing her arm.

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>>63211997
I don't see why would management give her the OK beforehand if they've been planning to make it NG for months beforehand. It sounds retarded to me. I'm more inclined to believe that they saw an influx of bare handed streams, got worried about current/future hires not matching their character's skin tone and put an abrupt end to showing skin, which is somewhat reasonable, but they should have thought about that way before. Kiara asked for clarification beforehand and back then what she was told was that as long as you don't have a tattoo, a scar, a birthmark or something along those lines that could lead to the talent being identified or breaking kayfabe, it was fine. It is very much a sudden change.

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>>63212100
I know this is /vt/ and there are no standards vut holy shit anon don't make me post the 3 chins
have some self respect

[Anonymous No.]

>thread is just faggots saying mori fat or seething at Kiara despite her getting the OK beforehand and not getting in trouble for the stream
Go back to discord

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>>63208521
Mori is actually like 6-8 inches taller than Kiara as well so it would be odd that her hands weren't bigger. I don't know their exact heights, but I know Mori is actually taller than her 5'6'' model, I've seen estimates around 5'9'' and Kiara said once she was too short to be a flight attendant when she tried and the height limit was something like 5'2'' for that.

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>>63204517
At least Mori's real life persona is public info. What can she reveal that everyone doesn't already know.
Same thing for Coco back in the day. Arguably same thing for Noel and Mel right now. Nothing has happened to any of them.
Hiding this stuff only matters if you cultivate a schizo unicorn viewership base.

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>>63212764
ew why is Kiara so short
how am I supposed to find her attractive knowing she'd give me manlet sons

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>>63213133
She literally looked like a child in that video she did of going paragliding kek

https://youtu.be/6mLv125ztX0?t=259

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>>63213401
uuuuuoooooooohhhhhhhhhh
why doesn't she have a kiunny model yet

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>>63213401
That sad guraposter was right, Kiara should've been a cunny.

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>>63213133
You sure those manlet genes arent from you being a shitskin

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>>63213401
They are on a hillside though, but she still looks small, yeah. For some reason I was under the impression she was really tall.

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>>63213555
same desu I thought she would be a tall aryan germanic goddess, she certainly has tall girl energy

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>>63212764
>Mori is actually taller than her 5'6'' model
i dont believe that

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>>63213555
>>63213591
Naw, she even mentioned being mistaken for a middle schooler before. That's probally why she was so self-conscious about her hands during the stream, Mori is much taller and her hands were just barely bigger than her's, but IRyS is who is much closer to Kiara's size had small slim hands. Hand size is a meme anyways, unless you are like 350lb your hands don't change much.

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>>63201978
Cover owns the models not the talents and are probably unhappy when the fanbase starts attaching themselves to the roommate and not the avatar. Flesh streams were rare enough before that never had a hard rule about it, and as other anons say, if the roommate is a different skintone to the model it might cause problems.

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>>63213604
Even without posting stuff that would give me a vacation, just look at anytime she does 3D stuff with others, you can tell she is a bit taller than her model by the way they interact with her. Just like you can tell Ina is quite tall from her 3D debut when she hugged lamy.

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>>63213985
>posting stuff that would give me a vacation
but thats what im talking about
""banana"" for scale

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara herself said she gained some weight but that was sometime ago, she could get even more since then if she wasn't paying much attention

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>>63214245
nice and plump chicken, very delicious

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>>63204592
>>63204754
>>63208521
>>63208713
Christ look at those sausage fingers. Deadbeats really can't live anything down.

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>>63213401
that was adorable thanks

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>>63208713
The lengths people go to shit on the pink woman are insane. She's constantly embarrassing herself. There's no need to be delusional to make fun of her.

[Anonymous No.]

Regardless of whether the nail salon stream was the reason for the skin ban, I can't imagine any holos being happy about it. Remember, they're all women, and they're now actively prohibited from doing feminine things. It'd be like banning you faggots from hornyposting.

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>>63201978
learn english

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>>63213017
>Hiding this stuff only matters if you cultivate a schizo unicorn viewership base.
Just say IRyStocrats

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>>63201978
I don't think it's on Kiara or Mori. The issue was likely IRyS' discrepancy between her model and actual skintone.
If it'd been Mori and Chicken I doubt management would've had such a reaction.