/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>what about my dreams?
>i want a concert for me alone but cover doesn't think i deserve it
>why won't you clip me anymore?
>give me more of your money im broke
what went went wrong?

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>>62947805
she needs a new catchphrase

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>>62947805
Why is she broke? Did she buy a house or what?

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>>62947963
She's not broke but her savings are invested
OP is a exaggerating because he's a fag

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I took a break from her recently. She spent a ton of time being depressed about her album not doing well in normal crowds and tried too hard to focus on outside groups instead of just having fun with it with her fans and Hololive general fans.
She dumped a lot of her cash she could access to making that stupid album. It was a dream of hers but she bet too hard on it. I fucking hate that album, the music isn't bad but the mental state it put her in was absolute shit. I loved listening to her sometimes whine about stuff, but when it's every stream, I can't handle it.
>>62947963
>>62948033
She had an investor do the numbers and he packed away too much in timed deposites kinda like CDs. Now she's talking to the guy about taking out a fat loan for 11k which will eat into whatever profit she was going to make on that money she put away. Kinda stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

graduate already
you're nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>62948305
Jealous femcel wrote this post

[Anonymous No.]

blue dorito looks a lot like kurosanji at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62948208
Regardless or not if you like the album, Kiara needed to release more original songs if she ever wanted the chance at a a sololive.

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>>62948559
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

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>>62947805
>egg still trying
sad

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>>62947805
can someone make that crying pomu "where's my 3d concert" image but kiara instead

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>>62948664
Also doesn't help that she really did shoot herself in the foot with the way she released it. For some reason I feel like I remember her talking during the leadup about how she wanted to get it done so she could book some time for 3d at the studio but wouldn't be able to get it until Dec.
She had no real hype beyond her streams directly to fans who already watch and consume everything she does so it left no impact with the larger group of Cover fans.

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>>62947805
You dumb fuck, she's standing up for all of EN, not just herself. Kill yourself.

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>>62947805
last thread died huh? let's do it all over again!

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>>62948996
>implying SEAniggers even watch hololive

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>>62948664
What Kiara needs more is more vocal lessons. Her singing sucks.

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>>62947805
>old thread pruned
>trying again
Pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

The absolute state of Cover Defense Force. Reminder that what she's most disappointed about is she can't do a 3D with her girls.

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>>62947805
ME ME ME ME ME ME

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>>62949137
Oh right, I forgot, Kiara is holy and untouchable. Guess OP should have made the 1 billionth anti-Calli thread instead. Or the 500 millionth anti-Tempus thread.

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>>62948996
Literally nobody asked her to do it. Doing something selfish and saying its for other people sake is just manipulative.

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>>62949212
yes, you're getting it

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>>62948996
>all of EN
Lol, what? Gura, Ina, and Ame don't give a shit. Mori has her own gig going. Council is happy doing council things and Advent is too new to have any reason to complain.

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>>62947805
Both her and Mori were strongest when Takamori was still going strong. Take that away and she’s just another vtuber in a sea of competition

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Meanwhile gura gets marine collab by just existing.
Can take 4 month breaks and still have a 41k+ audience for each stream

God imagine how angry kiara is on a daily basis.

[Anonymous No.]

what happened in nijisanji this time?

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>>62949212
>seething sister instantly reveales xerself
KWAB

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>>62949174
Which is an absolute lie. Everyone knows that everyone's 3D concerts are getting delayed. The problem with Kiara is that she wanted hers in a short notice and thinks she deserves better because muh 3 years in Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

Can you tards stop shitting on her, you will have no one else to blame if Vshojo poaches her next.

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>>62949490
Oh, sorry, did I hurt your feelings when I called you out?

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>>62949516
>short notice
>9 months

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>>62949567
she should goto vshojo if they ask.

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>>62949567
I'm more than happy to have her move to Vshojo. KFP are really toxic right now attacking JP, ID and Holostars.

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>>62949602
You're the one shitting your diapers because the catalog doesn't seethe over orange woman anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME

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>>62949633
>and holostars
lmfao homobeggar detected, kill yourself you tiny brown pinoy faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>62947805
>Constantly whines about work to you
It’s called GFE, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara realized she's not getting any younger and fears the rising zoomer reiwa idols like laplus

HAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>62947805
If she took a strong loud anti-homo stance she'd get the attention she wants and fuck over Cover at the same time. I unironically think its a good idea.

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>>62949688
Kiara is annoying orange? I would never guessed that.

[Anonymous No.]

remember every time we say shes too self centered her kfps come in defense full force coping how we are making shit up, i used to watch her till i could not get myself to watch anymore lmao shes just too bitchy about everything

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>>62949787
>laplus

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>>62948208
>fat 11k loan
Damn, she broke.

>>62948752
I admire his autism, he's been at it for 3 years. Normal people would have gotten a job, or gone back to college, or a hobby. But him? Relentlessly chasing down the last australian.

[Anonymous No.]

Uhh unicorn bros...? Why is she getting 0 money if she's from the CGDCT side?

[Anonymous No.]

It's her own fault for being born in a shithole like Austria. Should've chosen the United States or Japan in the character selection screen.

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>>62949884
Brownegg here, how do I play soundposts aiiieeeee

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>>62949787
>rising
The only thing rising here is my dick whenever I see Laplus in 3D.

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>>62949952
She's a tainted homolover.

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>>62949897
Just a temp loan, but she'll still get a few months worth of interest and a pretty hefty fee up front tacked onto the loan. It sounded like it was a temporary thing while waiting for this month's check to hit at the end of the month.

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>>62949633
This. Get KFP out of the Hololive fandom. All they do is shit on every other member like their oshi shits on everyone else but herself, the narcissistic cunt.

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>>62949952
Her next check covers the $11k with a $13k cut from buying an xsens suit
$25k min

[Anonymous No.]

checked /t/ no idea if its pointless to ask here, anyone got the kiara popsicle video?

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>>62949952
>Kiara
>CGDCT
lol, good one

[Anonymous No.]

>>62949876
nobody is coming anymore. orange seethe threads don't get any traction and they die when you're not here to bump them. sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

holodrones seething now that hololive has been exposed as being just as bad as nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

Myth is a cooked gen. They need to reform as new gen or something. Just too much bad juju.

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>>62949426
There is no way she isn't seething over this.
She can't even take a loss in AoE2 without doing a cope stream.

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>>62950087
Don't believe in this nijinigger. They want to cutout kfp in hololive fanbase so that other myth will get depressed and lost motivation. .

[Anonymous No.]

>Self replying after getting btfo multiples times in his own shitty catalog thread
You used to rule the catalog, now you barely can pretend you're another person, at least Orc make it funny, this is why not even KF or lolcow wants you. But is ok, i see people hating Kiara in all social media, right?

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>>62950241
Throwing everything at the wall to see if it sticks
Tsk tsk

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>>62949516
>Everyone knows that everyone's 3D concerts are getting delayed. The problem with Kiara is that she wanted hers in a short notice
Cover has been ignoring Myth's request for a 3D anniversary collab for over 3 years and Kiara mentioned this year's collab request was made in February. That it was ignored wouldn't be so insulting if HoloX didn't get a 3D anniversary collab in 2022 and will get a total of 6 anniversary 3D streams in 2023. Curious how management was able to find plenty of studio time for HoloX.

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>>62949567
its ok, let them, she is the only one keeping the branch alive, just imagine how funny it will be watching the entire group dissolve thanks to holotards and their special ability to shoot themselves in the foot kek, chicken will be fine, she already knows the business and have a real audience.

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>>62950241
She just wanted to fuck the coach

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>>62950536
EN are second-class citizens. We'll get the leftover tech and events and we'll like it because that's all we'll get.

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>>62947805
>>what about my dreams?
>>i want a concert for me alone but cover doesn't think i deserve it
She asked for a 3D live for myth and was denied.
And actually, she IS getting her 3D live alone, retard. She’s recording it right now.
>>why won't you clip me anymore?
She never said that. Where does this meme even comes from? She has plenty of clips.
>>give me more of your money im broke
She is not broke

0/10 retarded bait

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>>62950536
>B-but Mori
She got things because she's the only link between a real music label that Cover has, because their own label was a miserable mess that almost got Suisei out of the business. So, they take care of that thin link

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>>62950338
>will get depressed and lost motivation
ESL-chama, your English reps...

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>>62949196
>Cover gave her a solo live but she complains about no Myth live
>Will somehow join the company that never put any live whatsoever
lol. Wishful thinking. She’ll die with this company.

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>>62950637
Incidentally she did, but you didnt see any of the other girls getting a coach because they lost a casual round of a 20 year old game.
Not the only time she was weird about losing to Fauna either... Minecraft collab where she kept calling Fauna "mommy" after Fauna was voted the "mother of EN" in the survey.
She streamed her discontent being the last member of Myth to hit 1M subs instead of just being thankful.
Kiara wears her jealousy openly.

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>>62947805
She saber what Reine has, but she wants it in Germany Lite, much more expensive

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>>62950954
Nice fanfic bro

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>>62947855
she needs to cover ME ME ME, even her model would look good on the mv

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>>62951011
Ah you must not watch streams. This is all stuff that actually happened on stream.

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>>62950954
She asked to collab because she wanted to play better, literally no problem with that. There's not even another tournment. She just likes the game

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>>62951098
Sure, link them, "KFP"

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>>62950954
This coach is someone she learned about exactly 1 year ago. She loosing or winning the quote-unquote "tournament" has nothing to do with it. She always wanted to play AoE and collab with her.
Like what do you think she’s training for? There is no second tournament planned.

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>>62951201
She isn't training for anything, it's just an example of streaming over her salty reaction. If she had won do you actually think she would have done this stream? She was mad at losing to Fauna, it was plainly obvious. I mean did you watch it?

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>>62949973
Get the Violentmonkey extension.

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>>62951346
>If she had won do you actually think she would have done this stream?
Yes.
For exactly the reasons I already told you. She was already on her way to get better before the collab and always wanted to collab with this one specific person.

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>>62951346
You look like you don't watch her at all schizo-kun

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>>62950536
Didn't myth and council both get 3D group collabs -this- year?

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>>62951561
3D Showcase, not Myth anniversary or Council anniversary, they're very different

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>>62948305

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>>62951641
What do you call this?

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>>62951848
>Concerts are collabs or anniversary streams now
???

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>>62947805
>is the one euro in the entire company
>whines the most out of anyone
why are they like this, don't they have enough???

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>>62952006
She’s not fighting for herself, she already has her 3D live.
She’s fighting for Myth. Thank god someone is asking for stuff, because no one else in Myth would.

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>>62951848
I hope they continue to do these, and a little more often and not just in LA/the shithole of CA. I've seen a hell of a lot more penlights show up at cons since early last year, a ton of them labeled with the Hololive brand on them, so they've obviously bumped up interest in the West for idol stuff 10-fold.

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>>62952095
did they ask her to fight? can they not fight for themselves?

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>>62951178
https://youtu.be/Gln-E9L0U2w?si=oXgcgiwW6Muw-Jrm

Don’t know about the mommy clip tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>62947805
Lost her wrestling match

[Anonymous No.]

>>62952138
>Gura, Ame, Ina
>Fighting for themselves
Nice joke

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>>62951848
>3D showcase
A term that you just've pulled from your ass. Doesn't change the fact that they had their 3D live.

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>>62952180
Thank you for proving you don't even watch v-tubers fag

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>>62952151
I don’t think anyone doubted the 1M thing. That’s the same ammo everyone used everyday for two years now.

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>>62952175
"I'm doing this for your/their sake." is the most gaslighting phrase I ever seen.

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>>62948996
Sure anon, the girl who's only complaints are about "Me Me Me" totally gives a shit about everyone else and not just mad that she's not popular enough for a solo live

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>>62952279
those don't count.

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>>62952285
I feel like Kiara is overanalyzed she just have social autism

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>>62952285
The 1M thing is just her being self-deprecating than selfish, i don't see this as a problem because in some way she's right

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>>62947805
when everyone is writing their letter to the shareholders demanding holostars be fired, please add a paragraph telling them of kiara's problems. people should know.

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>>62952151
It's the usual pity-baiting. The fact is she is grooming KFP into toxic corpo haters. Seriously, other EN fans don't have time for this shit.

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>>62948208
>spent a ton of time being depressed about her album not doing well in normal crowds
BRUH IS SHE HITTING THE WALL?!

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>>62952334
What kind or retard are you? She asked for Myth anniversary live and was turned down, then asked for individual anniversary live and was turned down again.
Why would Myth be against any of that?

>>62952351
She DOES have her solo live for her and her only. She was denied the MYTH anniversary. Don’t be retarded.

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>>62952151
>>62951178
https://youtu.be/8Fh9twRq7oQ?t=4114

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>>62952351
I love how you ignore the amount of other talents that thank Kiara for stepping in because otherwise they won't do things by herself since even 2020 https://youtu.be/arpJ0c6bmb4

You have no ammo

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>>62952574
was she only one asking? maybe if gura asked.

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>>62952349
oh boy, here we go.

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>>62949787
To be fair, that's how every woman feels with each newer generation turning legal.

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>>62952601
Based chicken salad moment, now where is the "seethe" about the mommy part?

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>>62952659
I don’t know. Kiara is the only one keeping us in touch with what she’s doing. No idea what Gura does.

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>>62952518
That's bullshit. I'm still happy that Cover exists and there will always be something to butt heads over because it's a job, but if it weren't for the company she along with a few of the other girls I like would be wallowing with no hope in pushing their idol dreams.
>>62952601
She was memeing, what the fuck are you talking about? If she kept doing it all through the stream and not just once, you might start to get some ground, but this isn't proof of anything. They all use each other's jokes and fan memes when collabing like that (if they know them).

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>>62952349
>those don't count.
????
Are you alright anon? Every single 3D showcases have been named like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62952659
>Gura
>Speaking
dude, you're in 2023, not 2020

[Anonymous No.]

>all these bootlickers
What's wrong holobros? I thought you only liked the talents and not the company.

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara is the best. She cares about being an Idol. She cares about her fans. She share her feelings with her fans. She's not a jobber.

Every one of you made a similar rant about your managers to your friends/family/co-workers.

Sex with Kiara!

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>>62952915
least insane anon itt

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>>62952915
Are you saying dramafags are jobless losers? Because that's actually true, i guess Eggduardo is mad that Milei won and he will cut his mom job gibs lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>62951781
I WALKED CALLIOPE MORI UP ON STAGE WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU

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>>62950942

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>>62952816
I don't like Kiara. If its my JP oshi vs the company then I will have this fight. But Kiara is a low tier hololive member. Her opinion is jack shit if its going put the company my oshi is in at risk.

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>>62952574
They got birthday 3D's as well. Myth 3D showcase, Concert, birthday 3Ds (x5) sololive (x5?). If you add an anniversary 3D kiara will have done 5 3Ds in one year. That's a lot of 3D.

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I think it's reasonable to feel the need to vent about being able anticipate your first anniversary lives during your 5th year of activities.
I have absolutely no idea how this became a topic of note for either side of the spectrum.
Sometimes you just want to say that shit sucks.

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>>62947805
Cover is understaffed, she's lucky she's even in the company. Self-entitled bitch.

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>>62953173
I love this post because low tier holos doesn't even get a proper thread or get even talked in the catalog, or don't make her objective complain about certain things in Cover actually get N° 1 for reddit even when there was other 3D happening at the same time, just the usual thing for a "low tier holo member".

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>>62952816
It's fascinating looking at who's attacking Kiara for wanting something most anons also want.

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>>62953211
>JPfag
>Hates one of the most JP-adjacent idol-like member from the EN side
I will never understand retards like you. Do you hate Baerys and Fuwamoco too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>62953272
Good luck on your audition, sister

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>>62953272
I'm on the other side of the argument but, Cover is no way understaffed. If you mean Hololive EN then that might be true.

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>>62953328
KFP and Kiara work well together. Both are equal in terms of being cunts. The audience reflects the streamer I guess.

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>>62953372
meant for >>62953173

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>>62953378
Probably she got into PC and regret it already lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>62947805
i always hated her desu

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>>62947805
>covershit reposting shitty 5-year old meme
Buy an ad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62953428
i remember saying this kind of things when i was 13yo and trying to be mean to other people because i was a dumb teenager

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>>62953428
>The audience reflects the streamer
if thats true, your oshi must be a seething, psychotic pile of garbage

[Anonymous No.]

>>62953372
who said I was a jpfag or hating anyone? pointing out that they've already had a fair amount of 3D's this year shouldn't trigger you this much.

[Anonymous No.]

It's bad enough Kiara had to ruin the Gura Ame off collab kino with her original 3D bullshit. Now it's more 3D crying and complaining. I swear Kiara is mental and has done more harm to Myth as a group than helped it. Watch the first 6 months of collabs. Kiara ruined about every one of them.

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>>62953328
you know somehow its incredibly amusing that these threads still get made especially like you said for something anon also wants but this isnt the fires of 2020 anymore bait used to be believable

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>>62953211
The average JP has 3D showcases and either a birthday live or anniversary.
Some in JP got both a birthday AND an anniversary.

Beside Mori and her label. Myth got their showcases like literally everybody in the company.
No anniversary
And only Kiara and Gura got a birthday live, with delay, and Gura got literally mind broken over how scuff her birthday was.

They got one concert in front of a real audience that the JP didn’t get. Concert that was short as fuck and generally kinda disappointed compared to the Summer concert an the fes....

Just try to compare to holoX. It’s just clear as day that Myth got the short end.

[Anonymous No.]

As someone who works for an American arm of a JPN parent company, nothing she says is surprising. Getting local management to stand up to the mothership is a huge fucking challenge to accomplishing big goals. This is definitely a management fuck up.

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>>62953604
They don't, they're lack behind like 2 years worth of 3D
>but covid
not an excuse since 2021

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>>62952659
gura has talked about trying to get a 3D live before and being ignored. I think it was last year she had one prepared for her birthday but was told a couple days before that she couldn't use it. not being able to have her own is one of the reasons she doesn't do anything now but will show up in any 3D thing she's asked to

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>>62949349
Takamori was shit and shippers should rope

[Anonymous No.]

kiara is why they haven't hired any more EU. why is she like this?

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>>62953594
Yeah, you're only proving my point asswipe. Your little charade on A-chan a few days ago makes you look disgusting compared to most fanbases.

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>>62953372
>>62953173
You're quoting the wrong person but I like FM and Bae. Love Bae as she's getting along with my oshi.

>Most "JP-adjacent idol-like member"
Did you type this as a joke? Kiara is the most left-wing, anti-JP, anti-idol vtuber in hololive. Despite trying hard to be an idol nobody I mean nobody in Cover barks complaints against the idol industry or JP culture than her and Calli. Even JP people can't stand her for being too dramatic, selfish and blunt.

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>>62953594
Ooof

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>>62953753
>Cover barks complaints against the idol industry
queue the Kronii "unfortunately idol culture is a thing" or any other clip that shows him that he´s retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>62953753
Nobody believes that kek
Kiara's defended the idol industry more times than others have even talked about it.

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>>62953713
>Check accounts replaying to A-chan
>literally 0 followers account made this year
>Literally one had a pic only used in /vt/
try harded sister, sorry about your oshi being a scum in earth tho

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>>62953594
kek

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>>62953753
Bruh. Kiara literally has plans to have a sleepover with Kanata to watch old idol DVDs

[Anonymous No.]

>>62953753
>/pol/fag is a anti-Kiara
Let me guess, /uhg/?

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>>62953753
>left-wing,
Absolute mongoloid. You just believed the lies from the board.
>nobody in Cover barks complaints against the idol industry or JP culture than her and Calli.
Kiara hasn’t a single time said anything bad about idol culture. She’s an absolute idol otaku that can’t get enough of it. She’s Kanata level of idol otaku, what the fuck are you even talking about?

Can’t wait for the unavoidable collab between her, kanata and that idol that recently debuted as a vtuber.

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>>62949567
Dude, I don't even hate her but for her sake and everyone else's, that woman needs to learn when to shut the fuck up and that there are some things you just don't need to share. She's off base on her complaint and it comes off as entitled and arrogant. The rest of us have Oshis too and we want them to get stuff, but we can accept the reality that staff members and money doesn't just fucking fall out of the sky

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>>62954075
that's a good question. i've forgotten. what are we talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>62949212
Yes, tourists should adapt to board customs

[Anonymous No.]

Meanwhile Mouse can afford 50 new models every year. 3d concerts and tons of music/videos/animations. Being in Vshojo sure sucks right guys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62954091
Shut the fuck up bootlicker. Yagoo is wasting the equivalent of yacht money on the homos

[Anonymous No.]

>>62953594
Got him. Damn

[Anonymous No.]

>>62954091
>Don't complain
>Just obey and get in the cage wagie
Yeah no, fuck that shit, how do you think i got my rise in salary? Staying quite while waiting for my bosses to realize i'm actually doing my good job? Are you fucking retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>62954275
Listen man nobody cares about that, you've tried to 3rd party this multiple times today

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>>62954275
honestly , bein kinda neutral on this , i guess being in vshoujo has its perks , but its not an option for some of the talents bc it clashes too much with their style , like the kind of dirty jokes and sex stuff they make there is like day and night to what Kiara does or can you imagine holo chats being filled with piss and cum jokes?

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>>62950536
>this year's collab request was made in February.
in other words 6 to 9 fucking months too late. This is known, it has been known since last fucking year that there are massive delays in the pipeline.

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>>62953753
You could not be more fucking wrong if you tried. I swear to go some of you people are in so deep that you have created a false reality in your heads that is fucking opposite world.

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>>62951478
Cope harder

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>>62954418
Oh, is Henya's chat also filled with piss and cum jokes?

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>>62953753
>Mori out of nowhere
Does saying rent-free even work anymore? because you guys are completely shameless in how much she (and Kiara, apparently) own you

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>>62954435
So explain why they denied the next year's request too?

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>>62951943
Yes , better yet , they don't get canceled because of covid

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>>62954558
>He's mad

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>>62947805
Another corruption arc let's go!!!

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>>62949333
All of myth applied for a shared concert, and it also was denied.
Ina mentioned several times she was sad that her concert plans were canceled.
Ame cares so much she tried to do it by her own means.
Gura's was canceled and she had to scrap whatever she managed to record and give it kanauru to do her scuffed alt concert.

They all care, but Kiara is the only one that vents, therefore giving most thread readers here bait to complain about nothing burgers.

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>>62954573
how should i know ? i dont watch her , my knowledge what goes on at the vshoujos is hella dated but my point still stands even if henya might be a rare exception

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>>62954334
Were you dropped on your head a lot as a child? I'm not saying she shouldn't complain at all you fucking imbecile, I'm saying she should take it up with the people who have the power to do something about it and not air dirty laundry in public and rile up a mob that will then go and inflict splash damage on other talents with their stupidity.

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>>62954865
>Kiara is the only one that vents,
she´s germanic that is in her blood , last time we didnt say anything a man with a funny moustache did what he wanted t.kraut

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>>62954898
>I'm saying she should take it up with the people who have the power to do something about it and not air dirty laundry in public
NTA, but people sometimes don't understand until there's a public execution.

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>>62953713
You switch your falseflags so often that even the biggest retard on this site won't fall for it anymore. Seriously dude, seeing you pretend to be an offended hooman while being laughed at by /who/ gave me second hand embarrassment.

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>>62954898
>"Hey Yagoo, we as a myth want to do a Collab anniversary, can we get time for the studio after we all get together from traveling from literally across the world"
>"Sorry Kiara, holo X need another collab 3D using the study"
Also >>62954865
Nigger, there's a reason why she's venting, and holy god i'm thankful to her for actually telling things instead of silently coping with the situation, because fans of myth deserve to know what is happening instead of getting false hopes

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She should just move to America

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>>62955135
i'm sorry, the studio is busy with suisei's project recording practice in 3d for a future 3d.

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>>62955230
And what change would that make?

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>>62955135
No fucking wonder gura is so depressed if even kiara can get bummed about that shit.

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>>62954898
the people in power have made their position clear
>>62954275
if vshojo lets gura spend as much time on stage singing as she wants I expect her to show up there next

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>>62954877
if you watched any of Vshojo you would realise that very little of it is piss and cum jokes, especially Henya, Geega etc. Also when Hololive has members like Marine i really don't understand this line of thinking, she is lewd af.

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>>62955253
>"The studio got booked for another 3rd Gen Concert, sorry holo ID, ask 2 years before making up your plans"

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>>62955342
Sadly Gura is more than happy to appear on Holomems 3D concerts, had she had the same idol drive as Kiara I could see her leaving, but hey, if you're waiting for opportunity to shitpost wait for the 27th were gura is legally required to shilll a japanese city

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>>62955542
UNironically Moona said earlier this year that she will have the 3D studio for late 2024

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>>62955261
FREEDOM

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>>62955271
I know chumbuds are suffering from lack of Guranium, but when everything she ask get cancelled or don't even get a proper answer, you can get why she doesn't give a fuck about anything, i think Ina and Ame got into a similar situation

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>>62955135
Hey dude, I'm with you.
Her frustrations are completely reasonable.
Though I don't think cover is doing things out of spite or nepotism (for the most part) but they have stretched their resources pretty thin. And we have gone from having a single full talent concert a year to having 3 now.
But it's over 70 talents now, plus holostars. 3D birthdays,, debuts, sponsored streams and all this while short on trained staff...
Hopefully cover manages to get the studio and staff working at 100% so we can have a decent output of content in 2024

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>>62955253
>>62955542
it´s riidiculous that this is ironically happening and some bootlickers try to attack the person actually calling this out. like do anons really dont want this to get fixed or why is pressure on cover bad ? ldont you want more 3D´s with your oshi?

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>>62955135
>People who don't need a whole ass visa or any lead time are easier to schedule than people half a planet away
Go fucking figure, idiot. People who are closer to where a company operates are easier to schedule and also more likely to know what's physically going on at a location, which gives them an advantage in things like knowing when to start asking for studio time.That's not favoritism, that's fucking geography. Choosing to live in europe and bitching to us is not going to fix her problem.

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>>62955876
no, the suisei thing annoys me. she's going to use the studio multiple times to film practice. iroha was talking about how she's never seen so many staff before. and I watch at least one JP who had her 3D request delayed so it isn't just Kiara.

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>>62955727
if they would stop giving priority to holox maybe they wouldn't have these problems. it's not like anyone from that gen is a big draw these days anyway

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>>62955727
I don't think is nepotism ala Niji, but you can tell they're very focused with their JP talents, i was actually surprised that Kiara got her 3D Concert, because every other myth talent got shafted. And don't let me speak about ID because look at this >>62955670 and retarded fags here take this as just a "LE KIARA MEMEME MOMENT"? Fuck you son of bitches

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>>62955876
>Choosing to live in Europe
NIGGA, Kiara's been asking for a Japan visa for YEARS, she asked cover but sadly Japan was being retarded with their laws, now it's extremely difficult to get her there since her tourist(?) or something visa expired, she doesn't want to stay in europe.

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>>62956044
It's just shit-stirrers and dramafags who want to rattle people's cages. It's fun to play along sometimes and it perpetuates the shitposting.

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>>62949212
No complaints about the trillions of gura bait threads, what a coincidence

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>>62956157
I'm gonna have to correct you
Kiara said multiple times she doesn't want to live in japan. But she has no problem flying there every few months

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>>62955876
Oh yeah, hey EN fans from america, your oshis should get fucked because they're american, how dare them to be born in not-JP and getting into a JP company that wanted to expand over the western market without a fucking plan. Seriously, you're freaking retarded, stop breathing, you're wasting someone else oxygen.

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>>62956263
>I'm gonna have to correct you

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>>62948664
She doesn't need a lot of original song to have sololive. She's just not that popular to hold a solo concert and she doesn't have music label to back her up.

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>>62956425
This. Her sololive would probably run in the red.

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>>62956263
And it's only because she can't (doesn't want to) take her cats with her.

But it's reasonable. You have to sign 30 forms just to fart in that country.

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>>62956425
Not really, everyone can have a sololive, but you better get in the queue for the coming.... *flip page* 4 years

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>>62948208
Bruh is she stupid? She can easily cancel a time deposit if she needs to. Unless the financial expert is actually an idiot and invested her money in bulk. I have multiple TD accounts, all making me about 10k each. I make around 20-30k each month from interests alone. Although I'm a total NEET so I have no actual big expense. If people are wondering how I'n rich, it's a bit of everything. Old money, smart investments, having a job (back then). My neet lifestyle basically ensured that I earn but barely spend.

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>>62956006
besides that sexy sora moment I haven't seen anything really memorable from it either

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>>62955876
Shouldn't it be easy to schedule people from overseas since they'd have to do it with much more in advance?

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>>62956504
>She can easily cancel a time deposit
You can't, read the contract with your bank

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>>62949567
Goodluck. I want to see how many 3D live she can do in vshojo.

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>>62948996
In the end if it succeeds, she'll be "me me me" who push for it. Myth doesn't give a shit though.

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>>62956575
You can. Always. At least in EU.
There are penalties of course.

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>>62956504
She had money set aside for things, but she ended up getting slapped with another big amount on her taxes that her tax person (possibly same person) fucked up real bad so it killed her personal fund after paying for stuff like the JP trip right now and a few other bigger things.
Also the only way you can cancel contracts like CD's is if you take a penalty that's usually a lot larger than anything you've occurred over that time are gone plus some of your investment.

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>>62956645
Now in reality, Myth do care, just they're no vocal enough about it, this has been proven multiples time in this thread alone

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>>62956715
And they're costly, so why do it? Think McFly, think!

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>>62949567
Too bad she'll have to make a new album for her reincarnate if she joins.

[Anonymous No.]

>213 posts
>82 posters
OK what set of the schizos this time

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>>62956574
it's even easier to tell them no so suisei and holox can do whatever they want in the studio

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>>62956645
>>62954865

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>>62956826
read the thread you lazy fuck

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>>62956826
No schizo, just proper discussion of how she bungled her finances and what she can do to make it better.

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>>62950577
No fuwamoco will keep it alive if she does leave.

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>>62956826
The vent that Kiara did got steam and got actually approval from all other EN-ID fans, so Kiara getting something? The egg will seethe for a week or more.

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>>62956466
so its her cats over her career?

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>>62956466
Pewdiepie took his dogs to Japan, so why can't she?

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>>62956715
No you can't. In high interest accounts you will need to give the bank notice if you want to withdraw money. The higher the interest on the account, usually the longer the notice you have to give the bank if you wish to withdraw money. I use these saving services a lot and that's just how it is in EU. If you were to demand withdrawal without the banks usual notice you'd likely get black listed from the bank itself. I don't even think there are emergency clauses usually. It's generally the case that accounts like this are for high interest long term savings and you should have savings or current accounts with less to no notice on withdrawals in tandem with them.

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>>62956980
toxoplasmosis makes you crazy.

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>>62956978
>for a week or more
He's been doing that for 3 years and there's zero signs of stopping. 1 week is very generous.

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>>62947805
Kiara is going to sheethe when she witnesses Bae getting everything before her lol

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I love this thread, i love to witness the downfall of myth

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>>62957077
>He watch PDP
>Does the most stupid question of the thread
Of course, just google the survival rate of cats in planes and the cost to keeping alive in a 18+ flights before destination.

[Anonymous No.]

Let me fix Kiara for you real quick
>Do a stream where you fucking die
>Next stream: another revival stream because she's a phoenix
>But this time, she revives but her voice changed
>no more grating chicken voice
>now she can speak and sing and not sound like the most annoying thing in the world, second only to Kobo
>More people are willing to hear you sing and listen to you in general
>you changed your voice in a "canon" way so it's ok
There, that's all she ever needed to do. Drop the chicken voice, Kiara. It's been like three years, do something different that will also make you more popular.

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>>62956962
I don't see why the japs would listen to two overseas dogs anymore than they listen to an overseas bird

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>>62956962
FWMC are good for their own channel and their own audience. But they are in no way a "pillar" of their branch. Will they organize collabs and projects? Will they support their colleagues morally? Will they fight management to get shit done?
Sure they’ll stream everyday, but that won’t prevent the branch from falling.

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>>62956466
Try 180 day quarantine plus vaccines and microchipping.

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>>62957258
>He doesn't know

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>>62957258
cover should hire you

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>>62957258
>It's been like three years, do something different
Ironic.

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>>62947805
I can't imagine having Kiara on your mind this long, do you even have anything else to do besides constantly be told to shut the fuck up or falseflag?

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>>62957210
Then just move there without her cats, why would she sacrifice her career just for a couple of animals?

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>>62956614
A lot after they poach Myth entirely and open a studio in NA.

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>>62957406
He does not

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>>62957210
Didn't he rent a private jet to take his barely alive dog to Japan?
Also it took like a full year just to get the permits for bringing the animals to japan

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>>62957258
>Anon still lives in 2020
What voice change do you want? She already talks with her normal voice now.
She took the gradual change route instead of the sudden voice change route.

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>>62957429
I wouldn't also abandon my mascots, so isn't just her, also, isn't guaranteed she would get more concerts or collabs, also hololive won't be forever, it's a risky move in the long term and you can lost everything.

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"why doesn't she just uproot her whole life and move to a country she's had terrible experiences and stalker interactions in for a job that has almost no real security past the next 3 years"

is everyone on this board fucking 12 years old

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>>62957258
Kill yourself, Yagoo. You're of negative value to the girls and at some point, even they can't bail your dumb ass out.

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>>62957429
Kiara would rather kill herself that abandon her cats.
Also she has absolutely no wish to move to Japan, she’s fine where she is, with her friends and family.
And there would be literally zero career benefit. She ALREADY travel to Japan whenever she needs to. And IRyS who DOES live to Japan has exactly zero job opportunities.

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>>62947805
ENwhores are entitled fucks who are lazy but complain about not getting shit. This is what Cover gets for hiring EN and their whores

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>>62949567
Vshojo hiring manager/recruiter, if you are here please take kiara away, at best ASAP, better yet take whole myth away

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>>62957683
I love how everyone who mention that Kiara needs to move to JP forgot that Irys is literally doing that and have nothing else going that streaming, and also thanks to Omega's 200 IQ plan with HOPE she got burned out from doing songs until next time she feels like it.

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>>62957633
She wanted to stay butshe couldn't get the visa due to covid.

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>>62956714
That's a bad investment forecast then. Apart from actual TDs, I have a few high yield accounts that basically make me a little less than a TD. So what the fuck was their plan? Make a single high yield TD? LMAO. rule one in investment is to keep it diverse. Seriously, a neet is gaming both her and her financial advisor. Although I don't know much on big expenses, her advisor should have helped her forecast 5 years ahead and added leeway beyond her emergency funds.

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>>62957798
she wanted to stay, yes, but that's not the same as moving there at all

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>>62957791
Do not compare IRyS to Kiara. If IRyS had a sliver of determination that Kiara has she'd be getting proper projects left and right.

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>>62955090
Way off the mark pretentious faggot. Please call me an Irystocrat next or a chumbud or even a homobeggar. I don't give a fuck because it doesn't matter that you're still a piece of shit KFPcunt.

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>>62956500
I'm talking about paid sololive.

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>>62957840
Fag, you're even more retarded, just do TD every 7 days. You LARPing /biz/ fags are the worst thing that happened to the financial discussion in the internet.

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>>62957840
No clue how her money is spread just because the one time she talked about diversifying and investments in general, the chat screamed at her that they'd rather watch her throw her money away on gatchas. She kinda stopped talking about money in general for a year or year and a half after that.

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>>62957918
She doesn't, but is still proofs that Cover is retarded with EN, or your forget the many times her songs were released without her not knowing a shit?

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>>62957435
Good for them lol. She should do it then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62949787
>like laplus
Kek

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>>62955090
>/who/
Real hoochads use /#/

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>>62949263
>>62949333
>>62952351
>>62956645
>An important bit of context that I forgot to mention is that Myth as a whole wanted to have a 3rd Anniversary concert to conserve studio time but were then shot down in favor of individual concerts to make logistics easier, which were again denied or delayed until next year; her statements aren't purely out of self interest.
Why do antis never bother to read or understand context?

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>>62957937
What do you think i'm talking about? Sololives are obtainable, the paid ones, but you need to get into the queue

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>>62957633
Just to add to this, she's talked about feeling kind of alienated in Japan in general and her comfort level in her own country on a day-to-day basis being much better because she doesn't stick out ALL THE TIME. Add in that the cats can't come with and it makes sense why she wouldn't just drop shit, even back in 2022 when the restrictions were getting loosened.

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>>62958164
Because if they don't do it, they will lose their own reality. They're truly far gone in actually ignoring the real world, just look how mad he's now that his thread got actual proof and conversation instead of orange seethe >>62957919

[Anonymous No.]

>>62958164
Her antis are unironically more MEMEME than herself

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>>62958203
Japan and Kiara are incompatible to one another no matter how hard she tries.

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>>62957943
Stfu nigger. Your oshi is an idiot, so is her advisor. Just look at gura, barely needs to raise a muscle anymore while your oshi has to work all day because she's a dumbass. America will always be superior.

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>>62958302
They learned from the best

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>>62958273
There's a mirror. I see someone similar. That's (You). Nice try OP

[Anonymous No.]

>>62958324
>He wasted money in 5 year TD's instead of going over weekly TD which in the long term makes more money
suck to be you, gringo

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>>62958324
Chumbud here, we don't claim this idiot.

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>>62958172
https://youtu.be/nzXYoKY9hf8?si=dKMyl2jyn3Y7oA15
mio in summer 2022 talking about trying to get a solo live
basically it seems live they need 18+ months of serious notice to get it done

[Anonymous No.]

>>62958342
Orcschizo was truly the best mememe ever

[Anonymous No.]

>>62958342
Yeah, that's why they're twice as annoying too.

[Anonymous No.]

Where can I listen to the twitter space archive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>62958428
>solo live
Kiara was talking about a regular 3D live for anniversaries.

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>>62957184
I hope it happens, that shit will be hilarious. If effort and sacrifice pays off more than having a whine-fest on twitter, that will truly be justice asserting itself.

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>>62958395
Assuming idiot right there. Like his oshi who assumed that a financial advisor is always right.

>>62958394
Faggot, i gave gura more money than 100 of you beggars.

[Anonymous No.]

There is nothing wrong in complaining about not getting what you want from your company. It's really the only reason you would want to join a company in the first place...

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>>62958550
ngl i hope the best for Bae, but i think even if she rush everything, it might be with a great mental cost for her, her panic attack in MC was extremely worrying.

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>>62958203
this is true as well.

sometimes you have to step back and truly appreciate that the people arguing on this board are so deep into their own kayfabe that they genuinely believe that Japan would be a good place to settle for a western european white woman with sexual abuse trauma and no safety net because in their minds its the land of the sugoi with no discrimination towards foreigners,

not to mention expecting Kiara and her RM to uproot from her life as if she has nothing else going on in the world except Holo. These "fans" have never and will never give a shit about Kiara

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>>62956806
It's less than taking out a 11k loan dimwit that's the point.

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>>62958633
>Faggot, i gave gura more money than 100 of you beggars.
Yeah, nice investment bro, and also quote me where i said her financial advise was right, because i think both you are stupid as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>62957435
They should open a studio in NA and start using it to do pole dancing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62958738
She's literally going to pay that loan off next paycheck with so little interest it won't matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62958738
These guys are idiots, anon. Let them be poor like their oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>62958523
Kiara did mention solo venue concerts in her infamous x space.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62958648
Complain to the management, not to the customers

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>>62958738
>he actually believes that
now i get why /biz/ is full of scammers lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>62948208
>11k
back in the day they'd be making that in a single stream
what went wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>62958905
She mentioned that it would be cool to have a sololive but she knows it's not possible. Her main focus was the denial of a myth anniversary 3D

[Anonymous No.]

If you don't have the charisma of someone like Gawr Gura, you have to become Japanese in every possible way to be liked by the Japanese. Bae and Mori understands this. They'll abandon every single thing that is original about themselves now to be included in the JP mix going forward. Bae has nothing to lose at all, so I'm sure her numbers and status will improve by moving to JP. Kiara made some bad choices, but she seemed determined to not give up.

[Anonymous No.]

Can we all agree that Holos are financially inept?

[Anonymous No.]

Management hate is always correct and the one singular truth. Anyone that argues otherwise deserves to be in Guantanamo. It is always correct to demand better from these overpaid paper-pushers because God knows they've really proven themselves to be utter shit, especially this year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62958820
Keep moving the goalpost, nigger. I have no interest in your dumb ass anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62958982
Whales probably learned you can't buy their friendship

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>>62958952
She’s not complaining she’s venting. She did complain to management way before her vent. That’s not even the first time she’s talking about 3D stuff and concerts.
She’s not talking to us because we have any action on it, she’s literally just venting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62958952
shes an adult and its her streams she can do what she wants how she want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62959093
Would've been nice if she didn't lie or exaggerate things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62959065
>be gringo
>do retarded shit
>get called out
>get angry and shoot at the same day

[Anonymous No.]

>all this visa talk
no fucking way she has the points to get permanent residency unless cover is paying 7 million as part of the standard, contractually guaranteed salary. my guess is the japanese immigration officials won't take the talent share of the supas, ad revenue, memberships, and merch/live sales into account. Just the basic salary. My guess at the basic salary is 3 million yen. all that other shit gets added on top as a commission/bonus fee, but not technically as a part of the basic salary. Even then, she needs 3 years at 80 points or 5 years at 70 points.
https://www.lb.emb-japan.go.jp/Points-Based-Immigration-Treatment.PDF

That means she needs 10 years of continuous residency under work visas or needs to be married to a japanese man for 3 years.

If she goes the work visa route, she would only get sponsored for as long as the contract lasts until the next renegotiating period, where she would have take that immediately to immigration to get her work visa renewed and any delay = deportation. For how much she likes to complain and negotiate with management, needing that work visa to function is a major exploitable weakness in any contract negotiation, which is why most people that choose to expat to japan are best off marrying a local unless they have pewdiepie money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62959148
Where's the lie or exaggeration?

[Anonymous No.]

>>62959148
In three years of venting, behind the scene talks and random talks, when has Kiara ever lied? like even about non-important stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62959148
"Management bad" is downplaying things if anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62959148
Ok, let's ignore all other EN and ID members saying the same stuff as Kiara in the same way and tone, she's the ONLY ONE lying and exaggerating, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>62958952
man you must be great in relationships if you struggle the concept of wanting someone to listen to you when you had a shit day, especially for a woman

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>>62959041
Amen. With the amount of money this corp makes you think it would be fucking trivial for them to shit out concerts and 3D considering members have unofficially done it in their apartments and indies can somehow jury rig high quality 3D experiences with little to no funding. The bureaucracy and favouritism as well as clinging to more traditional "idol" culture is a cancer on holo

[Anonymous No.]

>>62958707
>not to mention expecting Kiara and her RM to uproot from her life as if she has nothing else going on in the world except Holo.
Anon, people relocate internationally for jobs all the time. It is frequently the price of getting to do something where you make the big bucks. If her job doesn't require it of her, she shouldn't have to, but she also forfeits the right to bitch about not getting the benefits that come with it, especially in a public way that stirs up worthless drama. It'd be one thing if she was blowing the whistle on some kind of actual malfeasance but that's not what she did, she's just bitching in public over a problem the public can't help her with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62959317
pls undastand they need to sink their money in shit like that weird mmo or other failed enterprises

[Anonymous No.]

>>62959492
My question is does every HoloEN member have to move to Japan to get Anniversary and Bday 3D lives? That seems like a huge ask.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62959093
>She did complain to management way before her vent.
"I asked for [thing] and they said no" is not complaining to management. Escalating about the denial of [thing] and trying to go up the chain until the problem is solved or you get a comprehensive reason why you can't have [thing] is complaining to management.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62959638
No and the people asking for her to move are stupid.
All they need to record shit is a studio, plane tickets and stuff running the studio. What they’re missing is the last thing. What is it going to change if they live in Japan or not.

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>>62959277
I need to have a close relationship with that someone first

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>>62959492
Yeah, Cover need to be more Anycolor and giving nothing to other branches because fuck you, right? You joined because you have a dream, fuck you about giving you money too. I love how corpo lovers just doesn't give a fuck about anything
>y-you're a commie
not really, i love capitalism, but improving your conditions is a must to keep the organization extremely efficient.

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>>62947805
>what about my dreams?
?
>i want a concert for me alone but cover doesn't think i deserve it
Yes? They're getting dished out to the JPs left and right
>why won't you clip me anymore?
Never said this
>give me more of your money im broke
Never said this.
>what went went wrong?
Covershills doing damage control via misinformation; IE you.

...Why do obvious shill threads not get banned anymore? And why are people actually responding to them as if it was an actual person and not a prewritten notecard? Has our board really sunk to /v/ levels already?

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>>62959638
If they make what people on this board speculate them to be making, it doesn't seem like a particularly big ask at all, in my opinion. It's not like they're getting stationed in fucking antarctica or something.

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>>62959710
You never worked in life, right? That's just pure fantasy, upper management doesn't give a fuck about your plans unless you made them money or suck their dicks

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>>62959710
Do you not know Kiara? Reminding, re-asking, asking for updates, etc. is her specialty. There isn’t a single stream when she’s not "I have to ask staff for this" or "I have to remind them of".
You can be sure she has harassed them as much as professionally acceptable if she really wanted that Myth anniversary live.

Maybe she asked 9 months in advance instead of the required 18 months, but that’s more of a cover issue at this point.

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>>62959865
You expect all 12 members who don't live in Japan to move their just for the chance to do 3D stuff?

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>>62959710
>Escalating about the denial of [thing] and trying to go up the chain until the problem is solved or you get a comprehensive reason why you can't have [thing] is complaining to management
yeah as a "talent" and someone who earns money for the company she should never accept a straight no as a reason it should be explained to her why so she doesnt have a cry to her fans and get them riled up at management for things her fans have no idea about

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>>62959901
18 months is for sololives, 6 months was fore 3D Concerts in stream (Now 2 years because sorry, Holo X need another collab stream)

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>>62959894
>You never worked in life, right?
Only at good companies with reasonable people, not burger corposlop.

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>>62960011
Nah, you never worked in life, because you would know what is the difference between venting and complaining even if you worked in the best company of the planet.

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>>62959638
The best solution would've been to look for a place closest to all the EN members and make an official branch office with a studio. Also, have a warehouse for merch while we're at it

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>>62959819
>...Why do obvious shill threads not get banned anymore?
Bait threads. And it's because it makes the schizos gather in here so they won't shit up all the other threads. Occasionally, it works. As for why the meidos employ this strategy instead of just regularly banning them, I have no idea.

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>>62958982
>>62959070
11k for a payment her advisors forgot about, which she can make up with her next check. And that check already has 13k taken out for an xsens suit. So 25k min

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>>62959317
>people relocate internationally for jobs all the time

Yeah, usually with a stable income and contract that guarantees their livelihood for the next 5 years at LEAST, with salaries and jobs that can justify a work visa

>If her job doesn't require it of her, she shouldn't have to, but she also forfeits the right to bitch about not getting the benefits that come with it

literally what would be the difference for her living there vs not, especially for concerts where she just needs to fly out for a few days at most. their jobs are 90% online, with a few rare off-collabs that Kiara does anyway

>she's just bitching in public over a problem the public can't help her with

she's venting, its a thing you do with people that care about you or you care about

do any of you even like Kiara? or have friends? the distinction is so night and day I struggle to see how you can't tell

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>>62960137
Stop complaining anon, you're being too me me me for asking improvements i totally agree with you btw, i wonder why they're taking so long to that, specially the warehouse

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>>62959927
I don't expect anything of them, I just don't think moving around when you work for an international company is abnormal or that big of a deal if you want to advance your career. It's kind of a well known possibility with multinational companies.

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>>62959194
>>62959227
>>62959259
>>62959269
She spoke as if she didn't get a 3D birthday solo concert even once in the past three years but she did in 2022. She spoke as if Myth didn't get a group 3D live in 2023 but they did. They also had live venue concert, participation in hololive events, and concerts. I'm giving her the benefit of doubt for maybe fumbling her ESL sentences but for the sake of the argument she exaggerated and hid some stuff in the space.

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>>62960137
> The best solution would've been to look for a place closest to all the EN members

Let me just triangulate the best spot between USA, Austria and Australia...

I'm guessing Congo, but it would be funny if someone would actually run the numbers.

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>>62959865
It's a massive fucking ask. International moves are incredibly expensive and time consuming. Work visas are time consuming and require timelines that honestly probably only kiara would be persistent enough to meet. Getting a new apartment or house to rent in japan comes with high upfront costs. And if they get fired, they would need to foot the bill to move all their shit back or desperately take whatever shit deal comes their way for a work visa to let them stay in japan.

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>idol wannabe wants to do more concerts
>that's somehow controversial
I love this board

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>>62960256
>she did in 2022.
She didn’t. She did that herself recorded at Ame’s place and put together by Kanauru. Cover did jack shit.

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>>62960256
wait do you mean the one she had to make herself ? the one Kanauru Cobbled together for her with the incredibly broken Ame captures ? in the studio Ame built herself out of some scraps?i might be retarded butif you mean that in what way was cover involved?

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>>62960256
2022 was all thanks to Ame and Kanauru
Myth didn't get a 3d livve, they got a 3d showcase

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>>62960232
>a well known possibility with multinational companies

you have to be 18 to post here dude

Google doesn't fly you out to Silicon Valley, Apple doesn't either. If you're working what can be described as a "remote" or "online" job you aren't expected to meet with anyone in person much at all let alone move anywhere

this is a basic thing you learn early in life

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>>62960256
Showcases are not collab
The Connect the World was the least thing Cover had to do after years of waiting
Participating in holo events is also a bare minimum and it took cover fucking 2 years and half
And the 2022 Concert was made in the Ame Studio, because Cover was afraid of Covid restriction, more than you have problems with ELS-ism, you don't watch streams lmao. And also ignore what other myths said or did, fuck them, only Kiara is wrong.

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>>62959227
She lied about what 1 million sub wish was

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>>62960514
Are you retarded?

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>>62960307
honestly a good spot between australia and the usa might be a country called japan

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>>62960514
Anon, you're exactly what are you saying Kiara does, you're full in projection today

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>>62960256
>>62960397
>>62960432
>>62960466
>>62960495
the sudden silence is deafening

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>>62960432
Nta, Cover was actually involved and not even to help out. They actually fucked up on delivering assets to Kiara and kanauru on time and took too long to check/approve the taping forcing her to delay the concert.

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>>62960307
Or Japan if you used a Pacific-centered Map.

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>>62948208
lol i pirated that album. get fucked birb

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>>62960631
We are in luck then!

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>>62960702
>>62960631
Australian can get into JP, but american and eu members should get an studio in the east coast. Your "GOING TO JP BRO" narrative is retarded anyway because ID members are close to JP and don't get jack shit either.

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>>62960744
It's literally free on youtube. How do these people even earn money?

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>>62960514
I want to smoke whatever you are smoking anon. That shit seems strong af

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>>62960744
>pirated
You could... just listen to it on youtube or spotify?

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I haven't given the album a chance but nothing will top her cover of Goodbye Declaration for me

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>>62960744
>it's free on spotify
>It's free on youtube
>"i pirated"
Someone is low in IQ today huh

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>>62960781
We’re not fucked because the location and the plane tickets were never an issue.
Staffing the studio so it can run at full capacity is the issue.
Favoring holoX over EN/ID to the limited time slots is the issue.

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>>62960702
My bad, I was going by my mental euro centric map :p

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>>62959032
Of course, they're women.

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>>62960903
>>62960853
>>62960826
Streaming services are stupid af. I don't want a single bit of revenue to go to that thing or anyone. The best way to enjoy music is having the files locally anyways.

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>>62960904
I don't know why the fags thinks is the location when there's a clear priority from Cover to work with certain members or groups instead of ID-EN when fans there literally beg them to have 3D Content outside of the usual

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>>62960866
No need to listen to the full album, just listen to The Great Wanderer and Retrospective.

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>>62960815
They need a mix of cheap land, a large educated workforce, and proximity to a major international airport. Texas, oregon, and georgia come to the top of my mind. However, this requires a lot more capital than cover can reasonable afford to invest in a cover corp USA if I'm reading their financial reports correctly.

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>>62960866
Its pitch-assisted crap. Either mixing was too bad that its glaring or Kiara seriously needs a vocal coach. There's like 1-2 good songs but I cringe every time Kiara sings.

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>>62961040
She sang it live too

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>>62960307
I shit you not, I had to pick cities at random so I went with LA, Vienna, and Sydney and the result was a point in the middle of the fucking Bering sea off the end of the Aleutians...weirdly close to Japan.

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>>62961016
So... you're saying you liked it so much you downloaded it? I don't think this is the own you think it is.

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>>62960631
>>62960702
What I meant was to make a dedicated studio that will solely be used for the EN members. Scheduling is already pretty strict for the JPs and then they have to worry about adding the slot for EN. It doesn't matter where that location is. The warehouse is also why I suggest to have it somewhere in NA

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>>62961016
You're giving money to hirom00t by posting here so i think you're just retarded

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>>62961094
so thats why Cover is a blue dorito? it all makes sense now

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>>62960492
>Google doesn't fly you out to Silicon Valley, Apple doesn't either.
Nobody said they do, you fucking moron. Moving for work and your work paying your way somewhere are completely different things.

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>>62961226
>Jobless fag telling other people how works here
top kek

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>>62961184
>>62961031
toooooo much money

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>>62961288
So is a mismanaged plan that got EN and ID into this situation because they didn't plan far enough, got it, so Kiara is right.

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>>62961153
Now I'm having a hilarious mental image of anon pirating Kiara's album solely to spite Kiara and youtube and then deleting it afterwards because he wasn't going to listen to it anyway.

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>>62961184
But the current studio is not running at full capacity.
Having a new studio in Japan won’t fix the staffing issue and getting one oversees isn’t going to be a thing because cover is not an international corp and doesn’t even have a commercial antenna nor anything overseas. Expending abroad would take years before even starting to think about a studio.

They could rent another third party studio, but they’re expensive as fuck.

No, what they need is to staff their current studio.

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also i would like to add that I think the album sucks because it's not remotely cohesive. It's just a bunch of different attempts at genres to see what sticks. Sparks is probably the only good song. The mixing and production value is pretty good, it's just sucky that she didn't really have a plan for this. Maybe if the album had an actual flow it wouldn't have tanked.

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>>62961226
they don't expect you to either you fucking retarded ape. An ONLINE job reaps no benefits from where you're located. I've worked for multiple international tech companies as well as freelanced for shit like Beyond the Summit and NOTHING would have changed had I lived near the HQ

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>>62961269
>idiot with no arguments trying to have a point
stay mad

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>>62961377
every few weeks I copy the album folder 10x and then delete 9 of the duplicates

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>>62961184
Build a studio on US (West coast). Kiara moves to US. Aussies can either queue in JP or use US studio. Problem solved. The problem is Cover is too cowardly to invest on infrastructure and production outside Japan. Also they are not keen on hiring MoCap studios outside JP. Even small corpo are capable of doing this but why can't Cover do it? They don't even need to be the same stuff back in JP. Just the bare minimum is enough.

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>>62961467
this guy would be a fiend to unity devs

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>>62961446
I don't speak poverty, can you speak to me after you get a proper job and life? Sorry about your mom of is what bring food to your table schizo

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>>62961483
still doesnt solve the cat problem or her having to leave family and friends

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>>62961467
stupid uppity melhombre, I'll post a big titty Anya as punishment, see how you like it

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>>62961547
West coast is stupid, East coast is better tho

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>>62961642
based and true

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>>62961184
Running their sophisticated studio is no simple task. Suisei mentioned they needed 30 people to run a 3D dance practice. Probably more for actual live. I wonder how many people they hire on-call and not regularly employed to make a live happen. However I'm not keen if Kiara wanted to try the new studio or she could settle with the bare minimum studio.

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tl;dr this thread OP is retarded
Kiara is right
ID-EN deserve way better
Sorry about your oshi concert, Cover need Suisei collabs practices for another concert, better luck next time overseas fans.

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>>62961483
cover dont have the money to invest in an american studio when all it takes is for 3 (similar to 2 of the stars)of the girls to not renew contracts for them to lose millions and make the invesment a giant waste of time

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>>62961739
bullshit, really? How the fuck is that much staff needed?

Also the 3D lives for events are obviously prerecorded so less on site staff would be needed anyway

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i could make music for her i dont need all that much money.

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>>62961409
> cohesive album
The compilation album of 3 years of songs done sporadically without any expectation of being ever released together as a album isn't cohesive.

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>>62961944
Dude, do you even watch streams?

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>>62962030
We know, Mori. Just release that rainforest and takamori songs already, it's been like a year.

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>>62962056
Yeah, I do.

What I'm saying is that the 3D lives for things like birthdays and such are at least 80% prerec, while the dance practice lives seem to be live at least

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>>62961944
So you're saying Suisei is a liar? You can blame the Japanese culture of hiring too many people for 1 task. In Japan it takes an average of 5 people needed to cook and deliver a pizza.

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>>62962250
I'm not saying Suisei is a liar at all, but I do think that its definitely a case of overhiring and/or too many people being assigned

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>>62962142
i wish i was Mori, you have no idea how much i would schlick in front of the mirror

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>>62962056
> Talent
> Producer
> Director
> Script supervisor
> Script writer
> Manager
> Assistant Manager
> Sound technician
> Assistant sound technician
> Sponsor representative
> QA supervisor
> QA Assistant
> 3D Asset designer
> 3D stage designer
> Dance coordinator
> Motion capture technician
> Motion caption consultant
> Script reviewing consultant
> Guest Investor
> Intern #1
> Intern #2
> Polka

It really do be like that

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>>62962616
Aren't you forgetting someone?

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>>62947805
>397
What the fuck is going on here? Who are you guys? This is not KFP

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>>62962807

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>>62962514
Virtual Mori or the real Mori?

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>>62962807
This is not a Kiara thread. This is Kiara-anti thread.

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>>62949567
she is the least likely to go anywhere retard

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>>62963019
All kiara threads are Kiara-anti threads

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>>62962893
either one would be fine. being with a record label aint so bad. having extreme backdoor access to hologirls is also not so bad. of course i will never be a woman and i dont realistically wanna be one but im just saying if i was Mori then my fingers would be wrinkly all the time

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>>62951766
>>62949402
>>62960313
>>62956804
>>62961479
Where we dropping, boys?

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>>62963254
The one with the most replies of course

[Anonymous No.]

Death to all bootlickers.