/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Did you know that hololive intentionally dumbs down their Japanese and talk like retards/children in order to be better understood by clippers? You are literally listening to a woman talk like a retarded child and make stupid noises through the stream. This is why Nijisanji isn't as popular in the West. They aren't willing to lower themselves to that level.

[Anonymous No.]

just like me..

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>>6260152
At least holos aren't forced to graduate like nijis

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
Girls are at their cutest when they're almost retarded. This is common knowledge.

also, cow thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
https://youtu.be/m0NnbLMatxA
also, get a new image for falseflagging

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
>haha I was being unpopular on purpose

[Anonymous No.]

Okay Niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
>implying Niji is not the same with muh accent Roa
Pot calling the kettle black

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
their highest subcount chuuba speaks like a retard who's never interacted with humans outside the internet
t. kachiku

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260233
Anycolor really is nice, hiring a retarded woman like ars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260296
and its cute as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

That makes no sense. JP clippers and translator clippers both know enough japanese to not have this problem. The only people it would make sense to dumb down their language to is the reduced group of begginer japanese learners.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260327
he's just like me bros...

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
fubuki talking with kiara he dumbed down her japanese i feel like a toddler in that interview

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>>6260210

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>>6260152
Of course the false flagger doesn't know about Hayama, Eli or Shizurin. The fact that you used Mito as the pic and not Fuwa, Nui or Maimoto proves that you're an EOP since Mito speaks in a quite plain style.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260566
>Fuwa
i understand the words he's saying but still got no clue what that motherfucker is talking about half the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260341
not all translators are advanced Japanese speakers though. Some people are harder to translate than others

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260644
脳死ふわふわトークすし

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260511
They wanted her to stay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260644
he makes me feel that i lost some reps when i watch him

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260644
Even the Japanese don't most of the times. He was talking about learning English and chat told him it's better if he learned to speak Japanese properly instead

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>>6260684
The holos did, management I don't think so

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>>6260152
that's based, it's called entertainment you fucking retard you have to appeal to the common denom

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260833
Think harder

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>>6260152
who do you think is peak difficulty in comprehension/speech of all the Nijis?
i intend to challenge my power level.

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>>6260152
Goalpost after Goalpost, you faggots are incredible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
Fact: Hologan never try to compare themselves with nijikek because they know they are better in any aspect.

Hah, nijikek

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260951
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SosCg3QziXg

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260951
https://youtu.be/HRe_sQHbIug

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260896
ah, Plebittor detected. What do want me to say "Le eBig!! Best Girl Yagoo"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
Is this a false flagging to prove the stereo type of Ninifans being an elitist or is this just a normal Nijifan trying to be elitist?

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>>6260152
Newsflash: Anime has done this since forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6261865
OP doesn't know there's a bunch of mushmouthed retards in Nijisanji too, so connect the dots

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
>They aren't willing to lower themselves to that level.
Don't worry, their viewer count already went to the lowest level possible for them

[Anonymous No.]

>>6261768
No matter how much you call others redditors, it won't change the fact that you are medically confirmed to be retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260566
>>6262024
It's not about their manner of speech, but their vocabulary. I didn't mean the retarded children thing literally. Luna is harder to understand than others because of her stupid baby talk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
dont worry lad, some of them are actually retarded children! we love them anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260210
>>6260279
>still relying on ancient disproven drama
do you people really just form judgments on vtubers you've never watched based on 4chan shitposts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260511
Coco was never a real holo to begin with, should've joined nijisanji with all the other sluts.

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>>6260152
You don't know japanese.

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>>6260152
The meds my man. Take them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
everybody knows this. Why do you think all clippers are chinks and ID etc?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6262307
Matsukai can't read middle school tier kanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
meds.
>>6260511
>posts someone who quit of their own volition because they couldn't act like they're from vshitshow
(you)

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
At least they never made amateur JAV and bragged about practising for it like Mito there.

[Anonymous No.]

its not specifically clipper bait and its not even just chubbas. The entire anime industry uses dumbed down japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6263038
Post the code

[Anonymous No.]

>>6263038
roru roru roru I remember that

[Anonymous No.]

>Did you know that hololive intentionally dumbs down their Japanese and talk like retards/children in order to be better understood by clippers
someone disprove this rrat right fucking now or I'm switching to nijisanji for the sake of reps

[Anonymous No.]

It's the other way around. Only professional clippers are able to translate the high-level conversational Japanese holos use while nijiniggers speak with elementary vocabulary so the perma N5s of /jp/ can understand them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6263038
Holy shit give me the source anon.

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>>6260152
The clippers still can’t understand Luna so this seems wrong. Hell, even the JPanons can’t understand her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6263038
Where can I see this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6261050
is that a joke

[Anonymous No.]

>>6263343
You tell me anon. Do you think OP is talking about people gurgling water being hard to understand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6263282
>original Japanese learning board that invented reps and eop is perma n5 as opposed to the two week old board where zoomers watch holoen because holoen is very "let's go"

[Anonymous No.]

>>6263343
No, you have to be high IQ to understand Atlantean

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>>6263393
What about this thread? >>6211307

[Anonymous No.]

>>6262602
yes

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>>6263153
>>6263334
Do your reps for the actual JAV claims, but here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KPTWjbg0Dc

[Anonymous No.]

>>6263464
Actually trying to write something in nip is already pretty good.
Certainly better than just ankidroning for decades.

[Anonymous No.]

Can somebody that isn't trying to bait people explain to me, are they just using normal Japanese while trying to avoid complicated words and phrases or are they actually on an elementary school level?

[Anonymous No.]

I wish people would stop using nijisanji members to false flag.

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>>6263703
Okayu for example dumbs down her talking speed to 0.5 and can go an entire minute saying nothing but "sugoi" and "ne". Never uses anything beyond high school vocabulary

You can be n3 and clip everything she does, which puts her in the top quarter of hololive subs and views despite being talentless and boring.

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>>6263511
cope. this is like saying writing out retarded comments on an imageboard is better than reading

[Anonymous No.]

>>6263794
He says while posting pomu. Everybody knows you're teamates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6263503
can you at least give me a hint where to find the JAV?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6263464
hey i wrote about himawari in there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6263828
It's certainly better than just doing flashcards and nothing else

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>>6263805
>Never uses anything beyond high school vocabulary
This is what i was basically asking. Not sure how Japanese works, but English streamers don't use vocab higher than high school either. No need and it can alienate a good portion of the audience.
As for the speed, i started watching Marine so i can have something in the background while i draw and to hopefully pick up some nihongo. She seems to talk pretty fast. Thoughts on her speed and vocab?

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>>6263805
>tune in to chill fat cat relaxing
>why isn't this Dostoevsky
Go fellate yourself on /lit/ some more, there's no need for verbiage.

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>>6263951
arguable if the people typing don't do flashcards and instead write the romaji from what they hear their memetubers say and then have it automagically changed into correct kana + kanji.

but /jp/ is a board that originally did reps to read VNs. a /vt/ zoomer claiming /vt/ is the perma n5 board is toppest of the keks when /vt/ itself is much closer

[Anonymous No.]

who cares about the west burger

[Anonymous No.]

>>6264042
claiming /jp/*

[Anonymous No.]

>>6263703
I mean listen to them talk, half the time its just generic cute noises.

That said, they slow it down and use extremely basic vocab, an N5 could understand them if they tried.
There's exceptions in zatsudans and such, but their average stream is retard tier levels.

Its not that nijisanji girls don't do it either, its more about how 'forced' it is by their management. Lulu for example was slow and easy to understand because of her personality. But you can listen to Hololive girls as time progresses and their vocab gets dumbed down and they start speaking more retardedly because cover realized it makes them more money.

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>>6264085
zatsudans are barely an exception

[Anonymous No.]

>>6263929
Mito's only in the background of an amateur shibari shoot and some classes. The yt vid is gone but the fleda twitter is still up iirc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6261050
I don't know japanese but didn't have much trouble following the audio despite radio voices. I think maybe nijinuggets are grasping at some semblence of superiority without realizing the true superiority of cute girls being cute and stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6264722
>joke
>
>
>you

[Anonymous No.]

>>6264722
It's getting hard to know if people are joking anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260833
She literally said she was offered a good sum of money to stay

[Anonymous No.]

>You are literally listening to a woman talk like a retarded child and make stupid noises through the stream.
Well, yes. Why do you think I'm watching?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260233
Ars is adorable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
KYS

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>>6264783
>Offered a good sum of money to one of the top 10 superchat earners
>Didn't offer to relax their restrictions on the kind of content she could post, which was exactly what she was complaining about but wasn't allowed to say.
They sure tried really hard to keep her.

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>>6260152
Yeah and so do many Nijisanji livers too, so fucking what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6265319
Unfortunately japanese businessmen are just that stubborn

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260341
Most clippers are SEAnigs that aren't proficient in English or Japanese. They typically butcher English grammar and mistranslate Japanese when it's not a literal meaning. See Otakmori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
I love Iinchou's lisp.

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>>6260152
It wasn't obvious? Even the anime VA's do the same, real japanese talk has more speed in their words

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>>6263805
Cause they're chilling and trying to appeal to young teens, not EOPs

[Anonymous No.]

>>6264085
Or the talent got more comfortable with a streaming persona. It's a fun rrat but I mean go find some popular western streamer (not necessarily vtuber) and grade the complexity of their vocabulary while they do it...

[Anonymous No.]

>>6266552
I mean, are you implying that western streamers aren't typically targeting 12 year old zoomers into fortnite?

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/OacjtccX044?t=111
Here's a clipper himself saying that Niji is harder to translate if holobronies are still in denial.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
>You are literally listening to a woman talk like a retarded child
As opposed to how women normally talk, right...

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267179
Pure unfiltered pathetic cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267179
Cute voice
>female avatar
whyyyy

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267255
Go listen to Fubuki making retarded noises holobrony

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260210
Only a literal psychopath was forced to graduate from niji.
More have been forced out by hololive you backward slut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6268245
There's been 2 that have been forced out actually to my knowledge.
The dude who wanted to fuck Hima, and the chick that wanted to fuck Roa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260210
Is Roa back yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6268370
They're still looking for Meiro's sex dungeon, please understand, Japan is a big place and the police can't check every perverted lesbian's basement for tiny demons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6262602
>Disproven
Just because you believe that it doesn't makes it true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267179
literally who

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267179
Keep coping nijinigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6263805
>You can be n3 and clip everything she does
How I know you never watch any of her zatsudans

[Anonymous No.]

A couple of Niji have Kansai dialect right? That only makes it harder on the translators..

[Anonymous No.]

>>6263393
>/jp/ invented reps
and you're calling me the newfag when you weren't even on /a/ before JP was a thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>6268752
kansai dialect isn't really that hard, its just some basic wording differences and minor changes to verb endings. for the most part its easy as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267179
the dude said it's hard to translate because of the different dialects and the hard to translate jokes, didn't see any level or grades of language he complained about

[Anonymous No.]

>>6268857
I'd argue jokes require some basic level of intellect to understand, thus 'grade' of language.
while hololive is just
>korone makes funny noises XD

[Anonymous No.]

>>6268920
There's tons of material in hololive that goes unclipped because it's too much work. You're a clipnigger who judges based on clips he sees, not the actual streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6268920
You don't speak Japanese. 28q8

[Anonymous No.]

>>6268920
it's more like some japanese jokes don't have an english requirement or would need too much explanation, and making the viewer have to pause the video to get some obscure japanese reference is bad for clickrate or whatever

[Anonymous No.]

>>6268920
So it's because they make a Japanese joke that is hard to translate to english there for it is better?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6268974
Funny then the choice of hololive clips vs nijisanji clips then, almost as if 1 community desires to clip interesting dialogue and the other just clips girls screaming during minecraft.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6269027
More like 1 community is 10 times the size, simplest explanation for every difference and you're not even denying being a clipnigger faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6269012
*equivalent not requirement

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>>6269062
When you have so many girl to watch that aren't constantly being kicked out for insulting the chinese, its hard to watch all of them bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6269144
Too busy stalking streamers into retirement? Nijiniggers are a danger to society and deserve to be shot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6269144
>Insulting the Chinese
Ogey, I see where you are going with this

[Anonymous No.]

>>6269012
Reminds me of manga where they have explain entire concepts or japanese stories at the credits page.

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>>6269144
Yeah it's much better to be like nijisanji and kneel to them from day one. There's a bilibili event coming and how many Chinese branches do they have? Oh and your grammar gives me an aneurysm.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are people on this board so easy to bait
I don't understand it

[Anonymous No.]

>>6268920
YWNBJ

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>>6264085
>NOOOOO!
>You shouldn't realize that trying to get a wider audience and make more money is a good idea!
>Stop trying to encourage people to learn the basics of the language by watching and supporting you!
>Stop marketing yourself!
In all honesty though, if the Holo JP members really wanted to make more money, most of them should have kept on with their English lessons to get basic English down and do something similar to Kiara, a once a week/every other week English only stream. The real fact of the matter is that they're all big enough that they make enough money to live comfortably at a middle class level as is, so they don't need to pander to EOP if they don't want to. A lot of Niji's on the other hand...

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>>6268857
Cope

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>>6269375
If you are talking about the anon that linked a video, I thought we could have a nice conversation but guess I was wrong about that one

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>>6260833
My rrat Is that some people at management liked her but some other hated her, mainly the pro-China faction, and she was causing internal conflicts so she decided to quit

[Anonymous No.]

Well done OP you did a great job baiting everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6269451
yeah, he said the hard to translate is the 'slang' of her language, not her high vocabulary, because it's not something you can learn in classrooms or self study

[Anonymous No.]

>>6269745
*can't misspelled there

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
migo...
btw what's wrong with the nijifag that they are so schizo today?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6269745
noooooo stop ruining my retarded narrative that nijisanji is only for smart people like meeeeeee

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
Koone...

[Anonymous No.]

>>6269782
It's just the vshojofags. They're on a crusade, some retard even got tricked into admitting a raid.
>>6263983
>>6263556
>>6261756
>>6265896
>>6222337
>>6213280
>>6255418
>>6262332
>>6264603

[Anonymous No.]

>>6269782
I don't see nijisanji fans wishing death on nijisanji livers they don't like Holobronies do with Holos they don't like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6269745
She uses slangs because she speaks like a normal person, not a retard trying to dumb herself down for her audience of chink and SEAnigger clippers.

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>>6260152
Stop making these threads. Do you really want Holobronies watching Nijisanji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6269893
Just another thursday

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>>6270005
sigh, ogey anon, whatever you say

[Anonymous No.]

>>6270132
They won't, even if 100 shill threads were made. Muh brand loyalty

[Anonymous No.]

>>6269948
schizo is everywhere, if there are 100 fans at least 1 will be schizo and since there are so many holofags, it is more noticeable. sorry for being so many, sometimes I would like to be few like the nijifag and vshojofag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6264450
sounds like bullshit to me
take your meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>6271037
It takes 20 seconds to check the archives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6261002
Please don't use this bitch image to support your point it's not going to help

[Anonymous No.]

>>6270132
>>6270263
the day Nijibronies rise is actually the day when the final yab will come. For this board.

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>>6260152
And of course, it's about how Niji's are superior. After getting assfucked in almost everything in the span of less than 2 years, you guys resort to goalpost after goalpost. just amazing.

Keep up the good work, otherwise there won't be any fun. Chaos is the /vt/ way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260210
Recent events should tell you otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
Makes sense actually

[Anonymous No.]

>>6262725
Zhang hate speech.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
Niji needs to speak nip English then because I still have no clue what the fuck hachama was saying about pepperoni pizza no matter how many translations I see.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260210
>Coco
>Aloe
>HoloCN
Really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6263393
DJT and /jp/ before vtubers is REALLY bad, anon. At least JSL who are already watching vtubers for entertainment have been through the filter already - if they can't understand japanese they'd stop watching their unclipped chuubas. You can find the highest concentration of good JSLs on the vtuber and VN threads, not anywhere else on /jp/.
I'm just refuting your defense of /jp/ being perma N5, but I'm not supporting >>6263282 's main point, which is just silly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
if hololive makes their chuubas talk dumb then uto is a kindergarten teacher because even an n5 can understand most of what she's saying

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260210
>forced to graduate
>Roa is still alllowed to stay despite not streaming for months and still releases voice packs
bad narrative

[Anonymous No.]

Nijisanji isn't as popular in Japan either

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
Bitch my oshi is Luna, you think I give a shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6268295
Those people weren't graduated, their contracts were terminated a la Hitomi Chris / Jitomi Monoe.
You guys really should brush up on your V lingo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6263393
That's a good joke. Some of the seamonkey in /jp/ can barely write english correctly, let alone Japanese.
>>6285872
Of course he doesn't know that because he never watched Mito anyway. That guy just want to bait people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260210
anon Im on your side but that was a stupid thing to say, all chinks considered

[Anonymous No.]

>>6285922
my condolences to your brain

[Anonymous No.]

I know a lot of people will think this is bait, but I have roughly N2 level Japanese and I can understand 99% of most Hololive streams but struggle quite a lot with most Nijisanji members.
I never really thought about it this way but OP is definitely on to something

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>>6286280
I think you should be able to understand most Nijis quite fine, especially dumb retards like Himawari.
The ones more famous for their podcast-esque zatsudans like Mito and Kenmochi are going to be more difficult, but I saw some Japanese tweeting they had completely zero clue about what Kenmochi was talking about (I think that's when he talked about lolis and Buddhism or something a few days ago) so... yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6263703
> how to get only bait replies

[Anonymous No.]

>>6286280
That's why its good bait because its partially true he just needs to add that holos are doing it on purpose to rile people up.

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>>6269027

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>>6260152
Should have mentioned amemori Sayo if you wanted to be more convincing, dumb motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6269144
Goalpost much? i wonder what goalpost you faggots are gonna make, once Holo burries you.

[Anonymous No.]

Why don't you guys just go and watch your favorite vtubers stream instead of kicking a fuss here? Or watch older videos I guess? Watch clips? Who am I kidding, most of you need actual hobbies. Go for a bike ride or beat up a homeless person or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6288378
they might do that when you and other retards stop giving replies and let the thread die

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
Girls are cutest when they are a bit retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
>You are literally listening to a woman talk like a retarded child and make stupid noises through the stream. This is why Nijisanji isn't as popular in the West. They aren't willing to lower themselves to that level.
You don't even watch Nijisanji, you little bitch.
https://youtu.be/tY5K1f7rMMM
https://youtu.be/QJn9c0iK0YA
https://youtu.be/Ig1EAWYviKU

[Anonymous No.]

Did you know that most /vt/ posters actually dumb down their posts and write like schizos in order to be better understood by the SEA population? You're literally skimming your eyes over posters writing toned down racist ramblings throughout the board. This is why /vt/ isn't as popular in Japan, they're not willing to tone down their racism for the sake of SEA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6262219
keep sucking Tanigo's dick, you dumb brand loyalist

[Anonymous No.]

>>6262976
>someone who quit of their own volition
What's next? Are you going to tell me that Mel was never harassed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
>You are literally listening to a woman talk like a retarded child and make stupid noises

Pure sex

[Anonymous No.]

>>6285888
is this the farting troll? still obsessed with that little bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>6270005
>NOOOOO NIGGERSPEAK IS THE SAME AS HIGH LIT ENGLISCH

[Anonymous No.]

>>6260152
Yes, yes...THAT'S why my oshi talks like that....

[Anonymous No.]

>>6269893
90% of those threads are filtered from my sight. Lovely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6286339
>especially dumb retards like Himawari
She's harder to understand than most holos lol. She doesn't sound like she's talking to toddlers like Pekora for example. Yeah, even the Nijis who are supposed to be airheads like her use more advanced vocabulary, that should tell you something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6269893
This is why reddit niggers need to go back to their shithole, reddit.

[Anonymous No.]

Yas Mito, tell em niggas what's up.

[Anonymous No.]

I imagined the fag OP seething while writing this post, while having to cope with the fact Nijishitters are and always will be less popular than Hololive. It's ironic when you look back at 2019, people used to discover Hololive through Nijisanji clips, nowadays it's the opposite and in some cases people doesn't have any idea of what the fuck is Nijisanji, lmao.