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>Next streamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfXUtr-2PLk>Who is Beatani?https://xphill.com/>Booru:http://clover.club/post>Merch:https://my-store-11536917.creator-spring.com/https://suzuri.jp/beatanichisato>Official Discordhttps://discord.com/invite/4MbJvngvnv>Streamlabs, because superchats are for low IQ dads who like giving Youtube 30% of the cut:https://streamlabs.com/kumagaichisato/tip>Last Thread>>6191397
>>Official Discordnigger
>>6223120>Official Discord
Last stream, Beatani followed the "same girl" on the street in Yakuza twice.The first time occurs at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTouG5WoMIU&t=1572sWhen is the second time? Anyone? I'm jumping around like a fucking retard.
>>6223224I think it was near the end, in the middle of some story quest which generated an invisible wall
i love this fucking bear
I hope you die, you bastard
>>6223274LOLI BEAAAAAAAI WANT TO NADENADEEEE
>9 hours until next streamYeah fuck this thread
>>62232481:58:20 .. thanks.
>>6223274Her hoodie has armpit holes so you can smell her better! Shaven hopefully!
>>6223316I smell a clip in the making, good luck
>Chihiro is the exact opposite of BeaWhy is she flat then?
>>6223425Bea drew that, she is a liar of course. Chihiro has a great rack and is very popular with the guys.
Do you think she'll have the mod updated today or is it too mendo
>>6223517>oppai cunnyuoh
I never thought I'd see the day where my fanart appears on the OP. Wow.
>>6223597I'm sorry it had to be this OP.
>official discordI'd fucking strangle your mother, kids, and everything you love you fucking nigger trash
I really want a Discord just to enjoy your reactions.
Realistically having a discord in the OP is probably a good thing because it filters out all the fags begging for a discord.
>>6223675The real grooming happens in the Reddit DMs.
>>6223120that’s not our discord, discord faggotchama
>Official Discord
>>6223765Nice, I was just about to do something like this but I like yours.
>>6223747didn't expect to see my edit reused so quickly. the shitpost is gonna grow into a reality. i remember when this used to say 2>4 fucking captcha failsyou have got to be joking
Why are you guys so obsessed with Hanabi?
When's the stinky bear gonna wash?
Having to use this one real fast
>Miho conbini segment goes on for 9 minutes uneditedsasuga groomer bear
>>6223675when you put it that way
>>6223800jealousy
Is the final yab approaching? These are dark times..
>>6223765UUOOOHHH PUNK GOTH BEATANII UOOOHHHHHHHH
>>6223765I love it,
Can the bear be washed? Or is she so crusted with filth and stink already that it won't go away anymore?
>>6224119No, she is filthy. You have mo idea what it cost me to buy her old chair.
>>6224186I threw up a little in my mouth
I want to massage Bea's breasts.
>>6224205She showed us Chihiro's hands, when do we get to see her chest?
>>6224230But I want to massage Bea's breasts, not Chihiro's.
>>6224272More for me then. At least Chihiro puts out.
>I don't want to have sex with my sisterwhat did she mean by this?
>>6224304Well I mean, do you want to have sex with your sister?
>>6224304She's a weirdo
>>6224326where do you think we are?
>>6224357on a 2D lover website
>>6224326>>6224357don't have sex with your sisters dads, that's what your daughter's for
>>6224326They're both girls so it's ok I think. I saw it in a yuri manga once.
>>6224473If you let anyone else than you fuck your daughter, you're basically a cuck
>>6224473
>>6223613Actually it's rather ironic to see my art on this particular OP given that I'm anti discord but since I'm a former dad who just left recently its really none of my business anymore.
I love her
>>6224549Why did you leave if you don't mind me asking?
>>6224565Please don't ask, most people actually left naturally but will always say it's for x reason external to them like the vtuber or the community or w/e, while actually it's just part of a natural processUnless it's just from having not enough time then sure
>>6224549It's just one fag pushing for it. Nearly no one is there and nearly all the messages sent there so far is hate for discord.
>>6224619I actually don't mind discord itself but I know it's unpopular here so I just don't usually mention it at all
>>6224651Same
Just a matter of time before the ironic discord becomes a real discord.
>>6224743I'm lurking the discord just to see that degeneration happen in real timeit's fascinating desu
>>6224651As said before, it's the idea of a server based on a 4chan general that's the issue.
>>6224743I don't think an super high majority of people were against it, even at the start, but people against it were very vocal, and people for it would just not even try to voice it, that's all.Last poll showed about 70%+ here used discord in general.
>discordwell it was fun while it lasted
>>6224834Yes, troll OP, do your thread reading reps.
>>6224743>>6224834It will never really be a thing unless it's one created by beatani, otherwise people know they're gonna be shamed etc.
The discord it's bound to happen sooner or later, Bea is still growing on subs at a good rate and reddit will eventually take notice of her and she will be more popularShe got a mod for the chat and she is still doing her reddit reps, so at the very least she wants to have a stable community, the next logical step is fining a place for it
>>6224565Kek you ask everyone who leaves in the exact same way. I'm sure you can figure out why people don't want to stay here.
I almost saved a Pika image in my Bea folder.
>>6224565I don't feel like giving an answer because it's probably going to be used as drama bait for shitposter but I did give an answer anonymously a couple of /yah/ threads back.
>>6224982Congrats on the baby
>>6224941she hates reddit now
>>6224982I hope you consider coming back in the future, I honestly think that the issue was blown out of proportion thanks to the shiposters and that Bea has taken notice of it
I don't know why they like discord, damn place all the communities I've joined don't accept criticism or anything, it's a hug box
>>6225164your not looking hard enough/ are unlucky then. it should be easy to find servers that allow that that
>>6225164It does happen for discords that are dedicated to one personality or group of person, but it's pretty rare for discords that are about a hobby, a game (as long as it's not their official discord) or things like that.
If you hate discord so much, refute this right now. You only hate discord because you belong to an anti-discord hivemind. Wake up.
>>6225290
I only hate discord because faggots keep trying to push it. If you wouldn't bring it up every second I wouldn't have such an objection to it
>>6225313nigger
>>6225290dilate you fucking tranny.
>>6225034really bea, if you want a place without any of us then why don't you tell us to leave you? what's the matter?
>>6225290which of the dads is the main admin
>>6225290I'm not a gay.
>>6225290it's okay do what you want, whatever you guys aren't my friends or anything and the bear doesn't care about me, enjoy your hug box faggot
>>6225290I don't hate Discord. But, the idea of an official Beatani Discord kind of worries me. The idea of an unofficial Beatani Discord is a little less troublesome, but it would also stifle the threads, among other things. Not to mention in either case you would need a named person as an admin. Whether a minority or not is vocal about their disapproval of this named moderator, they would never shut up.
>>6225362The server is not made by dads
>>6224821Using discord =/= wanting a /yah/ discord
I keep watching Bea's streams because I enjoy talking with a few dads on twitter and I don't want to lose them
>>6225458これ
>>6225454so who the fuck is the admin?
>>6225505A troll
I come to the threads because I like talking about Beatani, not because it's on 4chan. I'll go wherever.
>>6225522Do you think she has a bush down there?
>>6225545a cute trimmed bush in the shape of a clover
>>6225545The character, no, the roommate probably.
name one community that benefitted from a discord sever being made about it
>>6225640carol
Managing a discord would be too mendokusai for the bear
I want to suck the stink off Beatani's feet
>>6225723I want to suck her cock.
>>6225545A white/silver bush is too aesthetic to shave.
>>6225290Discord is unironically just a breeding pit for gays and pedosits just 4chan 2 but with more grooming and more mentally ill gamers
>>6225735lick the smegma from his unwashed cock
>>6225816So it's perfect for us
>>6225851Her cock, don't misgender the bear.
hand reps stream when
>>6225863but I'm not French
>>6225930Well not on youtube or twitch, but that would be doable on discord, they allow private streams like this
>>6226192fuck off discordfagObviously the correct choice is chaterbate just like that other slut melody
>>6224326Yes
>>>/sp/110637502Spotted
>>6226287Somehow the chaterbate one is the better one of the group
>>6225340>>6225356>>6225362>>6225371>>6225408>unable to verbally explain why they dislike discord so muchkek, it really is a hivemind.
>>6225362No idea, he doesn't seem to be much of an admin though. Pretty much just says that as long as you dont post anything illegal you can do whatever you want
>>6226706It's a community based around a vtuber. Dads are lonely menhara who can't help but attention whore/sperg out/schizopost. Add namefagging and a desire for bear attention. Does this sound like it ends well?
>>6226860namefags can go to the discord and anonymous dads stay in the threads. why doesnt this work? the whole reason threads are shit is because the two have to coexist
>>6226860this. Discord groups never end well when it's centered on one person/personality/vtuber/eceleb etc. ESPECIALLY if they are in the group.Letting dads dm her is more then enough
>>6226860To be fair, what's the worst thing that could happen? The only drama so far has been the jealous dads having a meltdown a couple of times, but they are fully contained in these threads and the bear hasn't been affected by them
>>6226930I got an idea. Making the secret Discord a reality and Bea will only invite these she wants to talk to.
has it occured to you that you can post on both the general and the discord? been doing it for years now
>>6226949Dox, or at the very least so much gay dad drama and faggotry that bear just says fuck it all together.
>>6226972this will just cause more jealous seethe and the threads would be ruined with speculation about whats happening in the discordoil balons are already secretive of what's posted in the members community
ANONYMOUS DADS >>> STAYNAMED DADS >>> AWAYIt's that simple.
>>6226997I see chance of bear saying "fuck it" increasing to 100% with time, doubt dads can keep the drama in
>>6227023>oil balons are already secretive of what's posted in the members communityThis is a matter of basic respect for Bea, it's not like it's a closed circle, just get the T3.
>>6227023non balons aren't missing much
>>6227085i'm already an OB, my point was only that there would be no leaks and the speculation would get out of control
>>6227085>This is a matter of basic respect for BeaI'm honestly impressed by this, you can say whatever you want about the dads, but I guess we love the bear too much to betray her trust
>>6227116also thisBecome balon only if she is your oshi.
Ok niggers I added https to clover.clubhttps://clover.club
>>6227142the ones willing to pay for the recognition of oil balon status are the ones with the most to lose. it's not surprising nobody has leaked, a leaker would also run the risk of beatani not posting anything in the OB community tab anymore.
>>6227142Too bad about the PO Box leak however. Was that a T1 and T2 post? Would explain why it was leaked and only made somewhat "ok" by Bea later.
I don't get it. If discord fags want to make a server for themselves, why are they in here asking permission to make one?
>>6227243T2+
>>6227203>Finally bothered with let's encryptThanks dad!
>>6227249they're trolls, tourists, and falseflaggers looking to stir the pot
>>6227249they're just shilling it, it already exists they dont need permissions
>>6227179>>6227116I see you're too low iq to understand. Also, ENHANCE
>>6225290I don't hate Discord. I hate Discord because it will be filled with this thread of retards. This thread is bad enough.I'm not sure why the sudden switch to a chatroom turns people fucking retarded, but I wish they'd stop.
>>6227249Same reason any faggot is constantly trying to convince others their behavior is totally natural and not disgusting instead of just doing it away from others, they want to normalize the idea of having one here by bringing it up over and over again.
>>6227203Thank you dadchama
>>6227369>I'm not sure why the sudden switch to a chatroom turns people fucking retarded, but I wish they'd stop.It's because discord would allow offtopic posting to run rampant.
Her subscriber numbers are inclining too quickly, how can I stop this?
>>6227434Inspect Element.
>>6227468Much better.
>>6227468Me and my alts.
Are there professional groomers for hire? For example, can I pay someone to use my account to groom her for me, and I just show up for the sex part?
>>6227488uh oh, don't look now, she just got another sub.
>>6227369>>6227373just dont go to the discord then lolif discordfags migrate to discord then they wont shit up the thread anymore
>>6227549>if discordfags migrate to discord then they wont shit up the thread anymorelol, someone has never seen any community ever.
>>6227543NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO KEEP HER SMALL KEEP HER PURE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>6227565the amount of bitching about discord would at least significantly decrease from both sides
At what point will she stop having karaoke parties for every 1k subs? 5k+? 10k?
>>6227598Why so much fear?, we are always the same people during the stream and more than half of them are dead subscribers
>>6227620Stop the bitching about namefags and that will solve most of /yah/'s problems.
>>6227620She would stop reading the threads and just hang out on Discord.
>>6227661I'm seeing a lot of new greens recently.
>>6227538That's a untapped market anon. You could create actual professional groomers.
>>6227671bitching about namefags will probably never go away discord or not>>6227677why would she? she enjoys anonymously shitposting
>>6227693many of these greens are old grays
>>6227708She can always do that on Discord. totallyNotBeatani#7892 WILL call you a faggot and get away with it.
>>6227741you have to make a new account every time she does that though
>>6227716Makes sense, greys are beneath my notice.
>>6227696Who needs grooming skills when you run a company of professionals?I have no idea how you'd market this, but I'm sure people would buy
>>6227777Greens checkedGreys wrecked
>>6227764What, why would she need to make new accounts every time? Besides, that's not exactly hard. Incognito tabs are right up there bro.
>>6227801 a private detective who watches the victim and finds out what she likes to groom her better
Remember when Bea was making new thumbnails for every stream of a game even if some guy bitched about greenscreen artifacts? Good times.
>>6227860She should make effort to include more artifacts next time.
>>6227822because her typing style would get recognised and she would need to make a new account in order to be truly anonymous
>>6227891That's where she needs to use her high IQ brain - copy-paste peoples posts from here.
>>6227891She needs to do her typing reps somehow. She's a good listener and her English speech flows well despite not knowing some words but her typing is where her greatest weakness lies.
>>6227801You'll need to change the name "grooming" to avoid the bad press, and so people don't think you are offering to give their dogs a haircut.
I bought new, non-scuffed calligraphy pens today in preparation for sending something to the PO box. Hope the bear will appreciate it.
>>6227656In one of her streams she said at some point she would start doing them every 10k instead of in 1k intervals.
>>6227955Surrogate Seducers Inc.
>>6228163I wonder what a 20k subscriber bear stream would be like.
Anyone have the drawing of Beatani sitting on a bench?I can't find it in the booru.
If a Bea game were to be made, what would you like it to be?
Why did you upload the same video twice *** chamathat being said, based uooohhhhPic related is my captcha... good thing i'm not a total schizo yet or i would have freaked
>>6228703stalking simulator, with molest mechanic
>>6228662
>>6228773Realized dark videos are somehow much darker on youtube than on the local file... should be good now
>>6229040>>6228773the fuck you talking about
>>6229085I think he probably meant this? https://twitter.com/Ziassan/status/1412889776391348232either that or the other 3 letters guy
>>6227243>Too bad about the PO Box leak howevereh? what are you talking about? did something happen when I was asleep?
>>6229085>He did not recieve the transmission of the relevant datapoints
>>6229214... how
>>6229220Not much, was posted in member only and instantly got screenshoted here, not a big deal howerver, I suppose she just wanted to limit the possible influx of things sent.
>>6229214How do you do that? Don't you need someone in a multiplayer server or something?
>>6229278>instantly >I still somehow missed itso no wonder why you guys were talkling so much about letters.
>>6229365There was a whole thread with people infighting about how retarded or not retarded the leakers were etc. but I understand some days have too many threads
>>6229346Yes, just invite beatani to your private server to record a video
>>6229346Make your friend cospaly as Bea, record the video then have sex with him
>>6229489god imagine...
>>6229489The true male fantasy
>>6229346An alt account works too
Ngl I'm kind of banking on the 5k minecraft server to put an end to the discord vs 4chan drama. It would be nice just to be able to build stuff with dads during dead hours.
>>6229929A giant statue of Bea with an enormous futa cock
>>6229929I still have my doubts bea will ever bother, it seemed gyro was in for the help but then idk what happened, prob too busy.
>>6228163Considering she already just kinda does the milestone karaokes whenever she wants it might be better to drop the milestone thing entirely and just have it be a monthly event or something.
>>6230016>I still have my doubts bea will ever botherShe will absolutely bother.
I will share the Risuna MC skin near the 5k then
>>6229489H-ha, yeah...
She has never mentioned it before though, has she? I don't want to have too much hope. All I've heard about the 5k minecraft server is from the frog, and he admitted he wasn't working on such a thing.
The father's day Minecraft server reveal was my pet rrat, I was sad to see it slain. Hopefully one day it will be reborn.
>>6230149damn thats hot...
>>6230149This will absolutely happen.
>>6230067I dont need the big celebration as a prerequisite to hear the bear sing. It would be nice if she occasionally wanted to sing or play guitar just like during a zatsu. I mean only songs she already knows, nothing she would have to practice for.
>>6230220>>6229489I will make it happen
>>6230238Personally I'd love a messing around with synth and/or WIP music stream
>>6230185>Hopefully one day it will be reborn.Are you the frog? Can't you make a minecraft server, is it hard?
Chihiro sybian review stream ikz
>>6230316Not him, I just liked the rrat
>>6225723I want to tie Beatani up and shove her into a carwash so the high pressure nozzles and big rotating brushes can forcibly remove all the stank from her and make her squeaky clean and smell nice!
>>6229214How do you get specific words from Beatani without background music? Just from memory?
Spraying deodorant over Bea's unwashed body!Making her stink harder!
>>6230697Not him but he made a vocaloid
>>6230697There are probably better ways to do it, but using "transcript" option on the bottom right give you speech to text of the video and you can search words in japanese, it kind of work for common words, tho you have to edit the audio a bit when it's in the middle of a sentence.
>>6230697Not him, but I try to note down times/videos where there's no music. Or, audacity forks do an OK job at bgm removal
>>6227203You are now pajeet tier in deploying shit, thank you
>>6230882Those moments would definitely be useful for all kind of projects
Glad to be (a foolish Dad)https://vocaroo.com/17forjZvxrEDhttps://ghostbin.com/paste/ZXqcHThis one is just 4 chords, C, G, Am and FTabs for Clovers on XP Hillhttps://witcheffect.com/yah/Clovers%20on%20XP%20Hill.pdf
>>6231332I appreciate you dad
>>6231332thank you for bringing some well needed nukumoritea dadwell done foolish dad
>>6231332keep up the great work foolish dad
>everyone is talking on discordFuck, it really is over. Been nice knowing you dads.
>>6231841we knew this would happen, the koppa poster predicted it, enjoy it while you can
>>6231841>everyoneIt's just three fags (one of them)
>>6231332As well, if people are interested in collabing, that would be cool. While I'm mainly working on my solo acoustic singing reps, I have hundreds of random melodies like this weezer rip off that's never found a use.https://vocaroo.com/1eqx0OltmBJT
>>6231332Definitely sounds like you've done your singing reps here. Best one yet.
>>6227203Now redirect http to https and setup hsts
Beas streams havent been very funMinecraft and yakuza are both dull with her
>>6232475>(49)
>>6232443go fuck yourself niggerHSTS shills should be shot
>>6232475t. chihiro
>>6232475Yeah, I think you should watch me instead, when I get my setup ready to go
>>6232502There is no reason in 2021 to still allow insecure protocols like HTTP to be used.
>>6232538Great!I cant believe how quickly bea got stale
>>6232538ok, drop the link when you do
>>6232595go eat a bag of dicks. I bet you also use signal and let moxie pound you in the ass whenever he wants.
>>6232624Of course, this is a self chill thread after all
>>6232538Thank, Mr Ryan, sir
>>6232595gb2/g/, Stallman.
>>6232632>go eat a bag of dicks.This is very telling of your personality if this is your response to someone asking you to employ a standard security practice.>I bet you also use signalI don't use Signal
>>6232639He's not Ryan I am >>6232538When's your debut?
>>6232704Depends on how fast I figure out the mixed reality thing I want to try.
Testing new brushes
>>6232933Uooh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzEAPz35qjs>Uploaded 9 hours agoIs he a dad?
>>6232933nice legs
>>6232933I need more pics of her ass
>>6232950nice try leech, stop shilling your self here, HAI.
>>6232933Oh god, the legs made me so hard
>>6231332In the Beaplane over the Sea
>>6232933>great ass and legsvery based
It's bad that I'm starting to recognize who are some dads in the nade thread just from the content and writing style..
>>6233284yeah
>>6233284It's bad enough already for you to be there
>>6233284Disgusting.
>>6233077WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG YOU WERE THE DAUGHTER OF CLOVER CLUBSAND HOW YOU BUILT A STREAM TUMBLING THROUGH VEE TEEEEEIN GROOMING DAD CHAMAS THAT FELL AROUND YOUR FEET
>>6233284Bea's figured it out too, that's why she's been cold recently.
>you will never watch indies with beapain
>>6233284Heh
>>6232933>mfw did reps right before thisstill have not busted one to my oshi yet, pretty proud of myself
>>6232933Can you make a black cock edit too?
>>6233284>nadeThat the bitch who's already delayed her debut at least once now?
>>6232933where the FUCK are the pubes???
>>6233346I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE YOU BEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATANIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
>>6233284> nadeWho?
>>6234002no>>6234066on her pubis, didn't want to draw a bush on this one>>6233284how many have you recognized?
>>6234131a groomer honeypot
>>6234201New rrat inspiration: the "Surrogate Seducers Inc" is actually real. Recruitment drive to find the most talented
I WANT TO HUG BEATANI FROM BEHIND AND KISS HER NECK! I WANT TO TELL HER EVERYTHING WILL BE OKAY AND FEEL THE WARMTH OF HER SKIN (SHE HATES IT)! HUGGING HER FOR MINUTES THAT FEEL ETERNAL! MY HEART BEATS LOUDLY AND I FEEL EVERYTHING IS ALRIGHT IN THIS LIFE! I CAN SMELL HER UNWASHED BODY! "BEA, LET'S PLAY MINECRAFT TOGETHER". IT'S THE BEST DAY. NOTHING ELSE IS NEEDED! AFTER PLAYING WE HAVE SEX!!
>>6234334This rrat is too powerful, I'm here to put it down.
>>6234380>sexyou ruined a perfectly good post dad why would you do this
>>6234641Sex can be a form of love!
>>6234641How new?
>>6235099quite
>discordfuck off you fucking nigger
Dads... I don't think I can stay up for the stream, I just wanted a few beers, but if I take a nap now, I'm passing the fuck out
>>6235488that's why i went to the liquor store but didn't open anything. i am feeling smart now. tired, but smart.
>>6234002https://files.catbox.moe/i9fbnr.png
>>6232933
>>6235677koku-jin
>>6235677Ugandads keep winning. Bea heard fireworks liked gorillas so she would try one out. She really trusts his opinion.
I put some pillows and cushions in a pillowcase and tied it up with a belt to stop them working their way out. I call it Beatani. It's perfect. The top corners of the pillowcase have a cushion pressing against them so they stick out like cute little bear ears I can nibble on in my sleep. Beatani is lying patiently on my bed as I type this. Can you say the same?
>>6236452s-sugoi
>>6236452I kneel
>>6236452b-based
Any euros brave enough to catch this one?
>>6236690Yes t. bongI tried to sleep a bit before but couldn't... Save me yurodadchama
>>6236452>No picture
>>6236690another bong dadwhat even is sleep at this point...
>>6236766Light in my room is broked and flash is mendokusai pls andastando. I might take a pic when I have daylight. Or I might not if I think you will get pillowdox from it.
>>6236452I just use a regular pillow and pretend the corners are ears because heads aren't supposed to be rectangular like that.
>>6236900>Light in my room is brokedNice job doxxing yourself. I'm going to tell Bea you did this
>>6236925I started off that way too. Pretty soon I realised a pillow doesn't have enough strength to hold its shape when hugged with autist arms so I started work on the upgraded version.
forgive me
I cant make it tonight, good luck beating up dads bea
>>6237143been wondering how long it would take for someone to make one of these honestly
>>6237143classic
>>6237143The greentexts got me
>>6237143be careful, or maybe they will also call this a "troll post"
>>6237143Business as usual
>>6237143good
>>6237407It can definitely be done better but I got tired of waiting too
>the title today is in englishWhat does it mean?
I like beatani, I think she's neat.
>>6238197She's working on her English in preparation to come and live with me full time, of course. What else could it mean, foolish dad?
>>6238279I like Beatani too, but the last thing she is is "neat". If you were there for the passpartout can flinging incident you should know this.
>>6238333neat can mean cool/interesting also
>>6235534Smart dad. Save the booze for when the stream starts.