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Thoughts?

>> No.61265816

They seem boring

>> No.61265876

Clown ass designs

>> No.61265887

look like chinese gacha characters

>> No.61265936

>AI models

Now give us the AI names OP

>> No.61265952

>>61265375
I like them

>> No.61266014

Why do indies have such better designs/models than this soulless corpo shit?
Also
>mixed wave
fuck off

>> No.61266050

>>61265887
This
Strong gacha game vibes

>> No.61266120

Genuinely who gives a FUCK about nijiEN at this point? it's going to be another botted debut into 900 viewers watching within a month.

>> No.61266138

>>61265375
They tried to pander to ladyknight fetishists so hard and failed epically.

>> No.61266336

>>61265375
the execution is pretty poor but i will say the guy is better than 90% of niji males in terms of design ideas alone
thank god the days of "here's a full wave of 5 generic dudes in suits/techwear" are gone

>> No.61266419

the audio quality for the voices in the teaser is ass.

>> No.61266473

>>61266138
>pander to ladyknight fetishists
>weirdly top-heavy design, entirely unarmored stick legs, exposed sides
they missed every memo

>> No.61266530

>>61265375
NijiEN new waves have less opportunities than the older ones
>First waves had a debut song, wave name and theme
>Second waves had wave name and theme
>Third wave, NOW, only have a theme

>> No.61266802

microphone quality was embarrassing. You know that shit can be fixed with a little mixing, right Niji?
Also the designs are WAY too much, I can name hundreds of tiny indies who have better, more interesting designs. Whos going to draw fanart of this???

>> No.61266809

>>61266530
nijien always finding more ways to neglect their en branch

>> No.61266900

>>61265375
it looks aight but I think they're just forcing those waves at this point,
look at how they tried to debut 3 first then 5 then back to 3 after it reached its peak.

>> No.61266989

>>61265375
>3 members die
>debuts 3 members
Try to mask it a little better, besides mixed gen never worked

>> No.61267054

>>61265375
Who are the artists for these?

>> No.61267267

>>61265375
niji haven't learned about their mixed wave problem

>> No.61267487 [DELETED] 

>>61266530
Kinda crazy that they honestly don't give a fuck about their new waves anymore, not even a fucking name to their waves, how fucking lazy they are, fucking pajeets that are part of the NijiEN management.

Zaion talked about it and denounce it to the public, we didn't believe her because she was a menhera, and we were right about her, but even Mysta and Nina talked about how shitty they were.

NijiEN management is pure shit, no cap.

>> No.61268361

>>61265375
>AI Generated designs fed 200k gacha PNGs
>Whack ass names that sound worse than literal whos using their middle school email accounts for their username.
>Niji's famous complete lack of audio quality control.
>One girl is probably ESL at best
>The most coherent and reasonbly acceptable design sounds like she's voiced by a dude
>Their PLs are all more successful than their NijiEN incarnations are going to be, based on how Krisis turned out.
How are people still falling for NijiEN grifting, I will never understand. I'm not just talking about the viewers, either, I'm talking about the suckers applying for this shit.

>> No.61268430

>>61265375
Pretty nice designs. Also, reminder that everyone used to shit on Council's designs when they were revealed. Everyone /here/ is a contrarian.

>> No.61268490

>>61265375
Kill, marry, fuck in that order

>> No.61268507

Looks coo-
oh it's on PlayStation? Then I looks cheap and I hate it

>> No.61268760

>>61268430
I hope they're paying you overtime for this, Niji Intern.

>> No.61269239

>>61266530
Gotta find ways to cut costs so our financials look good, you know

>> No.61269293

>>61266050
Not disagreeing but what makes a character look "gacha" anyway

>> No.61269455

>>61268430
You talk as if Council have great designs, Kronii is literally gacha bait, Bae is color autism from her creator, Mumei wears the most generic "female adventurer" clothes possible and Fauna is a plant girl

>> No.61269591

>>61269455
but they do though?

>> No.61270195

>>61269455
None of these are actual criticisms

>> No.61270253

>>61269455
and all of them are miles more popular and successful than your niji whores

>> No.61270340

>>61266530
Do they have a name? I remember know illuna and soleil name by now.

>> No.61270442

>>61270253
Better at being coomerbait?

>> No.61270481

>>61265375
More rushed out nijiEN 3views for the sisters to enjoy, yay!!!!

>> No.61270583

>>61269455
the council designs aren't great but at least they aren't desaturated to shit and in this awful fujoshit style. When I saw the leak, I genuinely thought it was a well-timed AI image troll, not the real thing.

>> No.61270589

>>61265375
They definitely had two others that dipped before debut

>> No.61270606

>>61265375
ACCELERATE

>> No.61270805
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>>61265375
remember to
<--
also
>>61265375
AI trash, buy an ad

>> No.61270928

>>61270442
better at actually having an audience that wants to watch them rather than being male orbiters

>> No.61270941

>>61265375
nigger

>> No.61271131

>>61265375
I swear to god if they got names like
lance swordarm

>> No.61271181

>>61265375
Middle is fucking amazing top tier design holy shit.

>> No.61271195
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>>61271131
Yeah, about that...

>> No.61271265

>>61265375
Victoria might be worth watching but we'll see

>> No.61271314

>>61265375
Looking forward to their porn.

>> No.61271381
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>>61271195
>claude clawmark
lost

>> No.61271387

>>61271195
Still better than Fuwawa and Mococo

>> No.61271410

>>61271387
AND OTHER HILARIOUS JOKES NIJIFAGS ACTUALLY BELIEVE

>> No.61271525

>>61270253
>talks about character designs
>numberfag can't help but insert himself in the situation
like clockwork

>> No.61271637

>>61271525
nijiseethe

>> No.61271737

>>61266014
Only retards wouldn't expect Niji to have males

>> No.61271774

>>61271195
>Kunai
>Brightshield
>Clawmark
My rrat is that niji consults a hospice wherever a new wave is coming

>> No.61271819

>>61271774
Brightshield just sounds like a DND name. Fits her character.

>> No.61271896

>>61271737
Even JP mixed waves falls flat, niji supports female and male collabs but they together on a wave always make everyone lose interest idk why

>> No.61271906

>>61265936
Claude Clawmark
Victoria Brightshield
Kunai Nakasato

>> No.61272811

if they can still have some semblance of kayfabe then i want victoria to forget being le dommy mommy and instead be a yui ishikawa-type character. Idk how exactly to put it, maybe be stoic with some comical bits here and there?

>> No.61273038

>>61265375
Why these AI gacha designs though?

>> No.61273155
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>>61265375

>> No.61273342

>>61273271
Girls look nice

>> No.61273613

>>61265375
>mixed gen
Sucks.
>those designs
No seriously why the fuck did they draw his shoes like this.
>those names
Who let their 12 year old name them?
>those voices
Kill me.

>> No.61273677

>>61273613
>why the fuck did they draw his shoes like this.
I'm pretty sure I've seen shoes like that in FFXIV. Artists must like them.

>> No.61273730

The voices fucking suck, they sound like normalfags, listen to this shit
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1717330228429942858

>> No.61273806

>>61265375
>>61273271
I like the helmet girl but where the fuck is her shield?

>> No.61273897

middle girl is just a gachashit version of tentei forte

>> No.61274344

>>61269293
I mean, just look at how much shit is on all of them. It's the most juvenile idea of a "cool" character. Nerissa is probably the most busy and cluttered design in Holo, and yet every design here is somehow even worse.

Cut 90% of the stupid decoration and you might have an okay design.

>> No.61275870

>>61271387
Cope Nijitroon

>> No.61276789

>>61265375
The middle design looks slick and my initial worry was the helmet didn't come off, but I see it does >>61271195.

>> No.61276840

Nijisissies literally just can't stop losing

>> No.61277227

>>61276840
>More people to watch? Y-Your losing!!!!
Meanwhile Gura never streams lmao

>> No.61277361

>>61277227
More people in Holo wouldn't help anything. Holo EN needs people that will regularly stream European hours besides Kiara.

>> No.61277631

>>61265375
Marry right

>> No.61279619

>>61265887
Nijisanji in a nutshell

>> No.61282874

>>61271195
Fucking Ai generated names

>> No.61283067

>>61269293
Extremely busy designs where each piece of clothing and accessory is over the top. It's done to differentiate from other generic gacha designs

>> No.61283086

>>61265375
They look like FGO rejects.
>caster
>saber alter
>assassin

>> No.61283730

>>61283086
I'd roll for that Assassin and Bond 10 her.

>> No.61283892

>>61269455
>Kronii is literally gacha bait
how underage, how new, do you have to be to look at a saber and think "Gacha game"?

>> No.61284504

>>61283892
I would have agreed with you 15 years ago, but now that there's at least two dozen Sabers they are the definition of gacha characters

>> No.61285320

>>61273806
>I like the helmet girl but where the fuck is her shield?
She most likely going to make that her mascot? The fanbase will be sheilds?

>> No.61286058

>>61265375
Great designs for the girls. Goofy fucking names, can't believe someone actually thought it was a good idea. Not gonna watch any of these people overall.
Sad that they'll likely waste such good designs.

>> No.61286146

>>61265375
very chinese

>> No.61286473

>>61265375
Won't watch/10

>> No.61286944

>>61282874
Talents have to come up with their own names and lore. Can't really blame them. Nijisanji only provide models.

>> No.61286991

>>61271906
Did you actually open ChatGPT or did you make them up? I can't tell

>> No.61287218

>>61271819
>Brightshield just sounds like a DND name. Fits her character.
Fucking where? Victoria wears a dark purple armor, has a very long two-handed sword she supposedly polishes as a swordmaster... and of course no shield. A strange shieldmaiden indeed.

>> No.61287258

>>61273613
the voices sound fine. nijiEN don't pretend to be characters like hololive. realistic voices are better.

>> No.61287376

>>61287218
Maybe she's got a fat ass and white pantsu

>> No.61287404

>>61265375
voices are shit, they sound like normie discord users with shitty walmart mics that do youtube dubs/voice overs. personal rrat is they're either nepos or post ethyria twitter fans.
they're going to have no stage presence or personality outside the standard twitch chuuba mold, little to no knowledge of weeb culture outside zoomer pop culture and will either graduate in a few months after they realize vtubing isn't a get rich quick scheme or nijisanji uses them as a scapegoat.
so basically, they're just indies with a shitty company backing. rip in advance, hope the porn is good at least.

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>>61286991
Here's what happened when I asked ChatGPT. Results aren't too dissimilar.

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>>61271387
I think Bookmark Novella is the best name because it is Japanese and in Nihongo bookmark means Shiori. It is a reference too her reading books. She likes to read books. Did you know that she hs read all the Sherlock Holmes stuff?

>> No.61287456

>>61287404
but enough about advent

>> No.61287476

they could only get 3 this time, huh?

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>>61287410
>Sylara
>Ironheart
That would have sounded too badass, especially considering who's reincarnating in the sword girl

>> No.61287879

>>61265375
New Nijislaves!

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>>61265375

>> No.61289189

>>61287456
nijiseethe

>> No.61289276

>>61288812
That smile looks rigid af
Nijirigging strikes again, ironic that they fired the only good model they had

>> No.61289368

Why the fuck would anyone sign with Niji EN?

>> No.61289465

>>61289368
desperation

>> No.61289498

>>61265375
shame that the ninja with nice legs and paizuri hole has a fat woman voice

>> No.61289897

>>61287456
quick, tell me which nijisanji en member after luxiem do you or anybody give a shit about?

>> No.61289983

>>61289897
The one I cared about left, so technically bobody

>> No.61290168

>>61289983
exactly anon

>> No.61290697

>>61289368
because it's a good springboard for a more successful career? and even if it isn't, for almost everyone that's been hired, the hellscape that is niji is still better than what they had as an indie

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>>61288812

>> No.61292211

>>61265375
oh god, they sound really bad
not even on par with the other niji waves

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>>61265375
Did they use random AI name generator over at niji? Cuz god dayum! It's awfull as heck

>> No.61295311

>>61273730
Why do these voice clips always suck? They sound like they're recording their voice through a flip phone.

>> No.61296863

>>61287410
yo lowkey, in regards to cringe vtuber last names, I sort of like whisperwind, I fully acknowledge that it's a little cringe, but i can't help it, it rolls off the tongue well

>> No.61297026

>>61265375
>Claude Clawmark,
>Claude
>Clawmark,

>> No.61297079

>>61290697
yeah just ask Aia and Maria about that.

>> No.61297172

for me it's less about the designs and moreso about the rigging - it feels like Niji blows the tiny budget on the art side of things and then throws a few pennies to whatever indie L2D artist they can scrounge out of twitter. Might as well debut pngtubers atp.

>> No.61297202

>signing up with Niji
>as a female
lmao fucking idiots

>> No.61297250

unironically Phase Connect, Idol, and Kawaii offer female vtubers better opportunities than fucking Niji.
At Niji they are staining their reputations forever with male collabs, and their viewers are not much higher than any of the small corps anyway

>> No.61297419

>>61297172
nijisanji has never had quality live2d rigging and I don't know why people keep expecting it from them

>> No.61297465

>>61297419
Nijisanji doesn't even try to invest their money into tech upgrades or software improvements like Holo has done. As a result their models look like bad indies from 2019

>> No.61297523

>>61297419
because nijifags actually huffed their own farts about nijisanji being the industry leader and keep forgetting that they are the cheapest vtuber company this side of the nile

>> No.61297529

>>61265375
They need to get GOBBED

>> No.61297548

>>61297202
Hololive introduces a new gen every once in a blue moon. Niji is still second place, Vshojo is a veterans club, and as much as small corpos get hyped on here, most of them end up fading after being exposed as black companies that make Niji look good in comparison (AkioAIR for example).

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>>61297465
That's not what nijifags told me

>> No.61297612

>>61297548
>Niji is still second place
when Vshojo exists? Nope
Also the smaller corpos are almost passing the Niji girls these days in case you haven't noticed.
The average Kawaii or Phase girl gets 300.
Aia or Maria gets 500.
When you factor in the shitty Nijisanji contract you can see why they are the inferior option in this case.

>> No.61297624

>>61297548
and/or collapse because they drunk the cool aid and legitimately thought they could run a business by just assuming everyone involved would just get along and work for the betterment of the company coughcyberlivecough

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>>61297548

>> No.61298017

>>61289368
Because they already know people inside NijiEN and want the same sponsors etc. as their old friends

>> No.61298020

>>61297679
>30k
>668
Grim...

>> No.61298124

For people who supposedly hate nijisanji so much you guys sure talk about them a lot

>> No.61298151

>>61298020
better than the Niji girls who have 400k subs but 500 viewers.
Actually Roca is underperforming a lot there compared to her average, an kotoka/Aia are overperforming. This is actually a really beneficial chart for Niji

>> No.61298246

>>61295311
NTA but I actually blame Nijisanji for this. As in, they could have tweaked the voices, played with vocal settings, reverb, ANYTHING to make this sound so much more...not this.

>> No.61298300

>>61297599
POSTS THAT AGED LIKE MILK

>> No.61298412

>most of our branch is struggling to get over 1k CCV?
>launch the next half-assed mixed wave (which has been proven not to work)
What is this retardation

>> No.61298420

>>61298412
ACCELERATE

>> No.61298507

lets see their names..
Whyte Purpleclaw
Valkeryie Daimyo
Masketta Shino

>> No.61298529

>>61297612
Aia is shit. She's only getting as much as she does because of big corpo branding. At least most people can see that she isn't good enough to tune into and would rather watch someone else or do something else.

>> No.61298611

>>61298529
That's the point anon. Why would a female vtuber choose the option where they will be nothing but male orbiters, instead of developing their own loyal audiences?

>> No.61298995

>>61297679
>sub 1k karaoke

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>> No.61300430

>>61298611
Men in Nijisanji have nothing to do with how annoying her voice is and how painfully repulsive her "entertainment" is. Maria is just dull and streams at a bad time for NA. Scarle just interacts with super chatters too much but can zatsudan like a beast. Then we got a Genshin streamer and two Japs that wanted to bypass the vtuber training program. I am so fucking salty about the female offerings we've had well over the year now.

>> No.61301021

>>61300430
>IT SHOULD'VE BEEN MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.61301134 [DELETED] 

>>61265375
Niggersanji using AI for their designs now?

>> No.61301289

>>61298412
More chuuba = more merch sales = more profit / better financial record
It’s not like upkeep cost for a chuuba is particularly high anyway

>> No.61301343

>>61297202
>lmao fucking idiots
they'll be fucking some idiots, alright

>> No.61302566

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOx4Hvf4F-s

>> No.61302668

>>61296863
It's stolen from Warcraft

>> No.61303378

>>61297419
Funnily enough Zaion was the best rigged model they had. Either that or Sayu was really good at piloting it

>> No.61303447

>>61298124
Shitting on niji is a fun and righteous activity

>> No.61303495

>>61301289
Yeah and talents pay for their debuts so it's practically free labor

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>>61265375
>>61288812
Green one has a great design, but the rigging seems to be squandering it. Shame it's overall being used on a Niji, who will probably drop out after her contract is up.

>> No.61303641

>>61303618
Luca already confirmed that there won't be any nijiEN graduations for a long time.

>> No.61303670

>>61303641
how the fuck would he know?

>> No.61303701

>>61303641
Terminations on the other hand, there will be plenty

>> No.61303744

>>61301021
You type this but look at their CCV, especially Aia. They just aren't good. If some of these people didn't have the bog corpo brand who would watch? I watch other corpos with more viewers over people like Aia. I watch flesh streamers that have less viewers than Aia. She did a make up youtube channel.

I watch girls, so obviously I'm a guy. I couldn't have been selected for her spot no matter what.

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>>61303641

>> No.61303751

>>61303641
How long's a "long time" though? The first contracts seem to be about two years, which is probably a long time from his perspective.

>> No.61303778

>>61303641
No one cares about what people like Luca or Kyo has to say.

>> No.61303869

>>61303641
and there is no war in ba sing se, right

>> No.61303942

>>61270583
>fujoshit
Do you even know what that word means, retard?

>> No.61304060

>>61303869
There is no all out war in NijiEN

>> No.61304255

>>61297548
>Hololive introduces a new gen every once in a blue moon
For EN I think with this they only have 2 more women in total. So you've got about as much chance. For men I'd agree.

>>61297202
Being a 3 view is more than most can expect as an indie. If you really don't have any more ambition than stream the latest game/fad. Then you might as well.

>> No.61306236

>>61283892
Isn't Kronii based off the fate extra characters who are in the gacha game?

>> No.61306331

>>61291682
No jiggle physics? Idc if she's wearing plate her tits better move.

>> No.61306377

>>61265375
Advent SLAYERS

>> No.61308354

>>61271195
I'm a fantasy drooler so I'm cool with Brightshield on a knight character but holy FUCK Kunai and Clawmark are cringe

>> No.61309416

>>61287679
who?

>> No.61309567

>>61265375
I hope the porn of the two girls looks good.

>> No.61309676

>>61303641
Unless Luca's secretly a manager, why would he have any knowledge on this subject manager? Plus the talents are probably going to be renewing their contracts in January or February, plenty can change unless they signed on for 2 years.

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>> No.61309974

>>61303378
it's the latter, she's just as expressive no matter what she uses

>> No.61310249

>>61309863
I would move Finana to unwatchable but yeah that sums it up

>> No.61310305

>>61265887
Tpbp, looks like edgy shit designed to make you think there's a story, rather than attractive character design elements

>> No.61310731

>>61309863
Even if you're a male watcher willing to give males a chance, that number only goes up by like 1 or 2 depending on your preferred content.
Fulgur is a good entertainer, but he's basically graduated and takes a lot of breaks.
Vox can be entertaining but he's just burnt out, so it's depressing watching him.
Doppio isn't allowed to unleash his proper autism upon the world and has been coasting.
The rest are varying flavors of FotM Fuccboi.
Aia is entertaining in her element, but her element is not considered overly appealing to the average male viewer. It doesn't help that her element is also a space largely dominated by collabs, so if she isn't able to tardwrangle or screen her collab partners, her content suffers.

>> No.61310752

>>61306331
you expect Nijisanji to hire a decent rigger? if she can move and talk that's all they're paying for,

>> No.61310851

>>61309863
Elira should be in the weak content since most of her streams are boring

>> No.61313068

>>61309863
I only watch men if they’re flesh tubers
t. femanon

>> No.61313432

>>61303618
No 3D of this design...shit, even obsidya doesnt even have their 3D yet

>> No.61314271

>>61309863
How does uki have an audience, his entire gimmick is being gay.

>> No.61315170

>>61273730
>deleted
What was it?

>> No.61315381

>>61309863
Still more streams to watch than HoloEN. Really makes you think.

>> No.61315502

>>61315170
They deleted and reuploaded the teaser because one of the girls sounded like she recorded her bit in the bathroom with the mic from a skne dollar store headphones (which was probably the case, knowing niji)

>> No.61318707

>>61315502
But she still sounds like she recorded her lines in a burger king restroom

>> No.61319116

>>61318707
Exactly, they only raised the volume of their lines, they still sound like the three of them were using headphone mics in bathrooms.

>> No.61323238

>>61265375
gay

>> No.61323251

>>61265375
Ew

>> No.61323538

>>61314271
alphabets and faggots obviously
i don't think most sisters watches him because even they don't like being reminded how many alphabets are there in the rainbow flags

>> No.61328734

>>61265375
sexo middle

>> No.61331417

>>61265375
looks like a vanillaware game

>> No.61334255

>>61273271
Victoria mama - shogo_matsuo
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/346226
Kunai mama - ekao
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/354252
Claude mama- arayadmdm
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/1206499

>> No.61337327

>>61265375
very cool designs

>> No.61340739

>>61265375
I hope they like their designs

>> No.61341676

>>61265816
fpbp

>> No.61342881
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61342881

>>61309863
Mysta graduated.
Fulgur and Ike can be fun to watch.
Finana is unwatchable.
I love Maria, but it's so annoying when she gushes about Enna and the Aussie streaming times are hard to catch. And while she panders to JP a bit, it's just occasionally, similar to FuwaMoco.
I do agree with the other anon about Elira, her content is weak. Mostly long JRPG streams with EN dub. It feels a bit like she is wasting her talents and is just hanging on.

>> No.61345124

>>61265375
Kunai looks nice

>> No.61346748

>>61265375
Even more gacha chuubers.

>> No.61347007

>>61313068
I wrote this.

>> No.61348140

>>61265375
Just by the way the girls sound in the trailer, I can tell those designs are too sexy for those girls. Do they even ASMR? do they like it when they get lewd fanart?

>> No.61350805

>>61265375
I hope they commission the same artists when they graduate

>> No.61355716

>>61265375
those are good avatars dont waste them

>> No.61360572

>>61265375
none at all

>> No.61360971

>>61265375
irrelevant

>> No.61361466

>>61265375
>Fantasy heavy character design
watch as they act like basic westerners who came from tiktok and xitter

>> No.61361654

I think Victoria could do with a little less stuff around her hips, but she looks good. My favorite of the three, in terms of looks

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