Gura......

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>>61244987
God you can just FEEL the tension in EN, with half of the fucking girls being absolute deadweights it must SUCK organizing anything big at all. Gura is such a cunt

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>>61245121
Can't relate

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Didn't Promise stream Family Feud first?

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>>61245399
Yeah and it was kino even tho the game is shit

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>>61245121
>half
It's literally just three people.

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>VR slob in late 2023
>narcissistic whore still doesn't realize that everyone hates her guts
this is why EN will always be shit

Kiara the psychopath
- tried really hard to hide the real reason she got fired from her old company
- pinned blame on her boogeyman (already this part makes her an unethical person)
- even worse than Mori, she joined a vtuber corpo because her chink friends told her to do so
- mentally ill numberfag
- narcissistic menhera
- doxxed Subaru and sold info about hololive members to the chinks https://files.catbox.moe/l08p3f.png
- never cared for Coco, in fact was caring about only chink gacha games, Genshin and Arknights to name a few
- due to insecurity issues of being a failed idol she felt the need to harass IRyS
- harassing her co-workers on a regular basis
- caused the EN civil war and in the process, made Ame hate Gura
- said the EN civil war was worth it https://youtu.be/W0lICCjnuDs?t=4468
- the insider G who has the patience of an actual saint said Kiara was making her stressed and she hated it
- Orcschizo (Mumei) did a 180 again seeing how insufferable Kiara was after working with her "oh if only you knew" https://files.catbox.moe/a5qake.png
- "Oh they've already got their own 3D lives? I'd better not invite them to my bday streams" https://youtu.be/W0lICCjnuDs?t=2955
- neglectful of due diligence, e.g. traveling and infecting her co-workers with the coof
- untrustworthy and dangerous to her co-workers, e.g. trying to take IRL pictures of the EN girls
- "no compromise" https://youtu.be/niJDkgLMkwk?t=13893
- often uses horrendous hardball tactics with her co-workers, e.g. "I won't let you join Holotori", "I won't let you finish the TTRPG"
- constant name-dropping
- hypocritical "she's been like that since we wouldn't let her play Genshin" https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1592164766617071617
- often throws someone under the bus
- attention-seeking behavior https://youtu.be/Lf4DdORCLN8
- treats Jenma like a slave
- "Nijification good" https://youtu.be/qU5hbJAQE7w?t=24798
- TT collab https://youtu.be/h3ONaq0jhPE
- robbed the Connect the World center position from Gura https://youtu.be/rUJy8BwA6hY?t=11757
- still dwelling on the past after all this time https://youtu.be/rUJy8BwA6hY?t=11570
- uses hololive as a stepping stone for clout
- said all of this is for "my own satisfaction" https://www.crunchyroll.com/news/interviews/2022/8/3/interview-hololives-takanashi-kiara-on-bridging-languages-and-countries-through-vtubing
- plenty of things /vt/ has said about her

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>>61244987
Myth is over. Gura and Ame have clocked out, Ina is an antisocial dead fish, and Mori is constantly busy. The only times they will get together anymore will be mandatory anniversary streams.

I guess they’ve never really been as close as council or even advent, and a lot of that is probably due to how lax management was in the early days of EN, but it’s still a shame that they never really got it together over the course of 3 whole years. Somehow I blame Mori for this.

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>>61245577
Stop nuking threads with your shit, doxxnigger. If only mods would nuke just the one comment instead of the whole thread.

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>>61245399
You know how hololive is, if something works, get on the bandwagon

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>>61244987
Stop trying to twist this into a gura thing. It's not describing anybody in particular. There are no words indicating gura, just your association with gura not streaming.
>>61245399
They did, but if you wanna be technical Kiara requested the perms. It doesn't really matter

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>>61245121
Gura, Ina, and Ame have all taken turns absolutly crushing 'myth unity' over the last year and a half.

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>>61245981
Why is she making it sound like she came up with the idea, then?

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>Imagine being a mythfag on 2023

You are either a KFP, a Deadbeat or a cuck if you are a mythfag

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>>61246193
Sounds like being a cuck is the best of the three here.

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>>61246187
She requested the perms, technically she already did a Myth Family Feud collab for the anniversary but she wants to play the official game.

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>>61246193
this >>61246310

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>>61246193
>You are either a cuck, a cuck or a cuck if you are a mythfag
FTFY

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Isn't it funny how it just happens to be the 3 girls antis were using to shit on everyone else? Karma is real. Everyone who ever trinityposted did this.

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>>61246187
She requested the permissions and has been planning this collab way before promise planned theirs. It's just that getting anything done in EN with more than 2 people takes forever.

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>>61245730
>Gura and Ame have clocked out
Gura something is up with em yeah well see with sports fes

Ame has just slowed down and wants to chill vs big collabs all the time

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Honestly I feel bad about Kiara and even fucking Mori because they are associated by the death weights that are Gura, Ame and Ina, and because they don't give a fuck about their gen, Kiara and Mori always end up being the ones that have to tell chumpedos, teacucks and tacucks about their oshis hating them

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>>61246519
Myth trinity went through at least two iterations.
1.Gura /Ina/Ame when Mori was blowing up on condom money yab and Kiara was always hated
2.Gura/ina/Kiara when the Great Unicorn v. Beggar war started picking up steam.
After that, it was never myth only again, or a trinity. just the big CGDCT hive pattern.

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>>61246148
>The original members of trinity back in the "orange/pink woman bad" arc don't even stream or participate in group events anymore
The irony is pretty fucking funny

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>>61244987
Ina...Ame...

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>>61246148
>>61245730
How exactly has Ame "clocked out"?
She is always there for collabs and organized most of them herself.

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>>61246798
we all know but don't want to say it
Gura has no intention to collab with Mori at all.
don't tell me you all didn't noticed it already

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>>61247424
Gura had to be dragged over hot coals to collab with anyone other than Ame.

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>>61245399
Myth did it during their anniversary, but now they have the actual game perms.

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>>61247424
I wonder what that bonebro team up on the UNOversary was all about. If it was management-forced, no wonder this latest Gura ghosting has all the signs of being the longest and most malicious one yet. She must hate everything and everyone at this point. Even Kiara, who was trying to buddy up to Gura in the Japan arc, seems to have given up on her.

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>>61244987
Suisei dwflection thread.

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>>61244987
How has Kiara and Mori been the only consistent members of Myth to actually stream even after 3 years in hololive?

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Im really glad i came to like Kiara, i dont have to give a fuck about the others.
I really wish more people would give her a chance now or at least stop shitting on her. She hasnt done anything wrong, seems like a nice girl and really works hard. I can no longer say im not a KFP...i guess i am now.

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>>61247127
that's how it works isn't it? its never the problems that recognize the problem and adjust.

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>>61247935
Not fooling anyone

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I hope GuRyS happens one day, I think they could work well together

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>>61248152
I feel like I can count the number of times they've interacted on one hand.

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>>61248051
With what exactly? Me being happy liking Kiara?
Is this such a foreign concept for cumbuds?

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>>61246187
She literally did, she made their own version of it during their anniversary stream because management didn't get the permissions in time.
The permissions she requested.
Now close 4chin and watch some streams instead of shitposting.

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>>61247935
Kiara pushed me away today for a few months. I was excited for her drawing stream, every one she's done has been a blast. Got home from work and turned it on for 30 minutes of her complaining about her tech, complaining about her money, complaining about her hat, and complaining about her art skills. I love this bird, but the last couple months have been nothing but the most extreme depression/funk she's ever been in and it's seeped into almost every stream since just before the release of her album. That fucking album has been an insane source of stress pre-release and self-loathing post-release. The music is not bad, I like Wanderer and Great Pretender a lot, but it fucked her brain up so bad it feels like she's in an even worse, depressive slump than she was back post-move to Austria in 2021.

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>>61247424
Bonebros has been dead ever since the house party arc. Which is a shame because the Adam Sandler watch along is one of my favorite streams from the good old days.

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>>61248152
Just imagine.... [GuRyS COLLAB] Resident Evil 4 OG. They both wanted to play the remake but didn't because of the weird HoloEN restriction (why didn't apply to the homos, for some reason), and they both wondered if they sould just fire up the original. Imagine how kino that would be.

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>>61248494
That's only her member streams though, and that's because she is parasocial as fuck and literally talks to nobody outside of KFP.
Remember how good her mood was after she traumadumped on Nina during her visit?
She is 100% the kind of person who is scared to talk to her friends about her worries because she might bother them.

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>>61248354
Apologies if genuine but most people type exactly like that as bait. Especially in the catalog

>>61248494
>wanderer
>the great pretemder
okay anon sure

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>>61244987
that means they asked gura and she didnt respond, but she might show up last minute, there is absolutely 0 communication

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>>61248494
>Come back from work tired, to a rambling entitled girl complaining about everything
Kiara is the true GFE/WFE

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>>61245315
Kronii is just waiting for her contract to run out so she can jump ship to Vshojo along with Vesper.

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>>61248639
>Only in her members streams
Even then, her pessimistic tendancies have never been this strong or this constant before. Seriously, go back and watch really early Wawa, where people talk about her 'menhara' streaks. She's been letting shit get to her from chat lately BECAUSE she is in that mental state, but the only difference is that she isn't afraid to go full-boar now vs then because she knows she has a pretty loyal fanbase. I love her, I don't mind listening to her complain or cry, but when it's every stream I watch, I can't. I'm hoping she'll feel better in the near future. I'm still looking forqard to the Reine visit because that should cheer her up (just like the Mori one did).

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>>61248152
The unity queen can make anything delightful
Kiara? that bitch only knows how to exacerbate things for everyone

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>They have been seething about Kiara for 3 years
We have gone further beyond rent free.

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>>61248940
I think it's because shit was never THIS bad before, she got practically 0 help with her album, they even fuck up and put the wrong version of songs on both streaming services AND the physical cd, her png mv's flop, she can't get merch for her concert and it got delayed to shit, she had a lot of troubles with permissions mixing up her schedules, the new girld dwarf her in ccv(yes she still looks at numbers, all of them do.), she had to buy $13k 3d equip herself because cover can't be arsed to organise a studio in europe, 3 of her genmates are clinically dead....add to that her tax troubles and it probably wasn't this bad since her pre holo times.

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Kiara won

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>>61249401
I know, which is why I needed to take a break. It's a shit time for her to lose a fan, but I can at least take solice in the fact that I was primarily a lurker and VoD watcher because of her streaming times. Hopefully when Reine visits things will cheer up a little and I can come back to my cute orange chicken without feeling too bad or her being too stressed still

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>>61249401
>3 of her genmates are clinically dead
I think this may be the biggest one. People know but most are afraid to say anything and within the vtubing community everything always has to be positive. You also can't really outright say anything too.
Imagine being in an environment where you keep putting your all into things but your coworkers don't even give a shit and that goes on for months then years. It doesn't matter who you are, you'll start to feel it too. Most would just conform but kiara is trying her best to not be like her genmates.

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>>61249381
I used to really not like her and Mori. Now its just apathy.

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based, gura should leave vtubing for good

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>>61249401
Everyone can probably relate to this, when everything goes wrong you need to vent. And she never really had it easy. I can see working with cover and some management..and her absent genmates isnt making things any better either.
I joke a lot about woman wanting to have everything handed to them for free but Kiara isnt one of them, even if she can seem to be a bit needy sometimes.
I really wish she had more luck with the things she does but she has to settle with things as they are. Her fanbase is pretty dedicated and shes close with them so i dont see it as bad.
If we talk about her music, i think wanderer is the best song she has ever done because it really fits her voice imo.

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>>61250415
>i think wanderer is the best song she has ever done
It's definitely tgw or do u, but the truth is png music videos are never that appealing, and since most people already listened to the song a bunch she lost the "new" factor. So it was kind of doomed from the start. The mv also doesn't look like a lot of work had gone in it, the mamaloni art is great but the general editing feels like something i did in highschool.

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>>61245730
>Somehow I blame Mori for this.
i think you are on the right track

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>>61246582
I'm a Nijifag but my understanding is that Ame is kind of like Selen in how much she pours into non-music projects for the rest of the branch to get involved in or have the technical know-how to do so. My understanding of Gura is almost entirely based off of what I read /here/ so I can't tell if it's overblown or if the atmosphere with regards to Myth and/or amongst Myth fans is actually this dire.

In NijiEN, it's the oldest members who are the most afraid of coasting and the newest members who do fuck all (except Koto and Melo who have been working real hard), and there's so many of them that projects can still happen even without pillars participating. Does Gura just not want to be there anymore?

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>>61250788
>Does Gura just not want to be there anymore?
We don't know.
Maybe she is done with streaming.
Maybe she just wants to come back for some shill streams and not bother for anything else.
Maybe she is sick.
Maybe she is working super hard on some secret 3d pixar movie.
It would be easier if we knew.

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>>61248782
Why do you peddle the most outlandish rrats?
At least make them believable.

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>>61248552
>>61248152
You guys dont watch irys so I will explain. She did not like how gura jumped out of the train and did not help her to get her items back
Irys is the kind of person to judge those small things and lose trust

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>>61250998
What train?

[Real dude No.]

Gonna be honest with ya. None of myth is interesting or WOW factor for that matter. You guys joke a lot but tbe moment gura leaves, EN as a whole will stagnate, it will just be a circular motion of fans or a really slow growth, like real slow. Im not a numberfag and im talkijg out my ass, but a lot of folks ive seen on here have cried about how boring the EN Sphere has gotten. Say what you want but guras prescence alone has charisma, even if she is absent in anything but name. The moment shes gone it will most likely be over, you will just have to get stuck with what you have.
And thats what a lot of ya dont understand. Doesnt matter how entertaining you think your oshi is or how talented or whatever, the fact of the matter is, they dont have charisma, no matter what they do they will never pull their own weight and kiara is just that, a low hung barrel of potential that keeps on leaking because of how she is, her voice, her character, etc. She has a dedicated fanbase but thats it. Her own fans pull apart new people with how tight knit they are.

Rambling done

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>>61250684
Fair enough. I on the other hand dont care for the visuals at all.
Im a Ringodachi, meaning Panko is my oshi and she is way smaller than Kiara so my view on what counts as successful might be different. Kiara is by all means very popular in general compared to a lot of other vtuber so i hope she will feel better soon.

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>>61250788
Ame didn't say it in a public stream because she probably knows that clipfags are gonna shit on some people, but in one of her last member's only stream she said that some MEMBERS after all her work for organizing big things, events, collabs or trying to bring ideas were like "no, I'm not participating", which is understable, but at the same time she even asked for a modification for her last VR map so anyone could play it even without VR and without motion sickness problems, reminder that the worms tournament was meant to be hololive only and no one replied to her, she had an idea of a show like JP with everyone roleplaying as students with the yellow helmets and with some members as teachers and someone called it directly "that's so cringe" . That and at the same time she said a long time ago that people and MEMBERS were the ones in fault for overhyping every single thing she does and that she was getting anxious with all the attention and praises from some people.
Basically Gura and Kiara are at least 50% of part of the demotivation she has with projects nowadays, the other 25% are the voices in her head and the other 25% are the people that followed the "Ame deserve praises and the spotlight" movement

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>>61251192
I think she knows she is among the top vtubers in the world, but i think she is also comparing herself to people like gura, marine and pekora, and that will fuck you up.

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>>61250788
You see, the problem is that Gura DOESN'T want to be at the top. However, new generations failed to get anywhere close to her success and take her spot at the top. Back when she streamed consistently, she is consistently over twice the subs of the closest member. Not only does she have twice the subs of her closest rival, she is also growing twice as fast. There's no way for anyone to take her spot if she keep streaming. Even after an entire year of basically no activity, the gap haven't shrunk significantly. Gura is probably at her wits end figuring out how to sabotage her numbers further

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>>61251483
>Gura is probably at her wits end figuring out how to sabotage her numbers further
easy, unveil a grown up model and only stream with that.

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>>61251153
You are not wrong, but i also believe at this point, Gura quitting wont have any long lasting effects on EN. It might even put the whole perception about what counts as ''big noombers'' back into perspective. I see no reason why someone with <1.000 views or <10.000 subs counts as unpopular. If anything Holo got WAY to big, even some talents feel that way, some might aim even higher who knows. But vtubing already has stagnated, which is normal and i dont believe we will ever get another boom. Might as well be happy with things as they are right now.

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>>61251118
Must be a rust thing, because that's the only time I can remember them ever interacting.

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>>61246148
I don't understand why people talk about unity as if it was the most important thing to ever be when generations like JP2 or JP4 are great without it. Sometimes things just don't work out perfectly between people, and the reason isn't even especially hate, it's just the lack of deep relationships. That's just how life works.

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Hololive has sucked cock for at least a year and a half.

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>>61251735
Nijisanji has been killing it though (it refers to their company)

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>>61251381
> that's so cringe
…isn‘t that something Mio would organise? Like it’s one of the classic kind of Hololive streams…

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>>61250205
Honestly, I don't understand why anons talk about Ina as if she was in a state anywhere as bad as last year's. Her recent break is only a family vacation because of her father's retirement, and out of it, she has streamed a ton recently.
The only thing about her is that she is not that social and just does her thing without being in many collabs, but that's how many other members already act in the company, like Shion or Lamy. Some girls just prefer to play Nintendo games and draw rather than getting involved in big projects.

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It feels like advent have done more as a group in their short time, than myth in 3 years.

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>>61251381
>that’s so cringe
Wanna place bets on who that was? Lol

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>>61248782
2 more weeks sister

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>>61250907
Kronii is just waiting for her contract to run out so she can jump ship to Vshojo along with Altare (the guy who made her laugh fr lol)

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>>61252567
>Kronii
>Vshojo
lol
lmao even

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>>61249401

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>>61248782
>>61250907
>waiting for her contract to run out
>when she renewed it in august
See you during the first Promise anniversary and 3DLive lol

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>>61252699
Vshojo will let kronii collab with males and give her small anime tits

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>>61252567

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>>61251566
I would actually love that. Her 3d is awkward af because the model is so small.

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>>61252699
to be fair, Nina had worse numbers than kronii, and they hired her. Now that I think about it.... it seems they always get officially hired by VShoujo right after a BIG controversy. huh..... interesting. I guess then, Kronii missed her golden chance of joining vshoujo during the male collab arc, I wonder if she still had enough yab potential to leverage another VShoujo invitation.

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>>61251381
Hope she doesn't completely give up on projects, all the advent girls seem down for anything so that's like automatically 5 people that will join any event that is organized

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>>61247253
Kronii...

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>>61253080

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>>61247827
Kiara is terminally online as is Mori whereas Gura is lost in the void, Ame hates her fanbase, and Ina hates the horny coomers that make up her fanbase so she just sticks to drawing in private.

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>>61246148
??? Ame literally made the biggest EN collab to date during the anniversary.

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>>61245730
It's always Mori in some sense.

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>>61251381
She needs to sit down with Selen, who for some reason known only to god and her, pumps out tournaments, 3D, events, and whole ass festivals even while being called cringe and scuffed every step of the way

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>>61253142
Technically 4 as FuwaMoco are basically one person for the most part.

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>>61253444
>Ame hates her fanbase
Ame is burned out trying to carry all of myth while they don't give a shit.
She never hated her fans.

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>>61251381
>still playing a blaming game in late 2023
>holoEN's entire shtick is Ame VR slop
>chose to side with the psychopath Kiara, only to be called "cringe"
God helps those who help themselves, acquire some talent first and then we talk

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>>61253444
>lost in the void
Gura just hates streaming, lets get real here

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>>61253550
Calling Ame "Unity" Watson as anti-unity really shows you how anti don't care about reality. Just mindlessly pushing whatever the latest rrat is.

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>>61249381
It's 3 years and you can't accept Kiara is an obnoxious fuck.

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>>61250691
no no, rrat on. Dont stop now.

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>>61251381
>Cringe
I really fucking hated Gura for that mentality. She absolutely ruined the tail end of that offcollab with all of Myth in JP because of her inability to just take it and play along with Mori and Kiara's goofy antics. She can do whatever she wants with her own stream and channel, but the second she played wet blanket and got Ame and Ina to second-guess themselves when they were starting to join in with Kiara and Mori turned me so fucking fast on her.

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>>61253666
Honest to god question, if Gura's voice showed up in someone else's stream (Like when Ina was in some jap artists stream unannounced) would the chumbuds be overjoyed, or livid?

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>>61253840
Little of column A little of column B. Overjoyed because she's on a stream but lived that she's streaming for them.

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>>61253899
*not streaming for them

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>>61253550
Ame and Kiara have given up on the unity schtick for the most part because the only rescipients they'd get were Mori most of the time and each other some of the time.

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>>61253786
Its because Gura's a fucking attention whore. Its why she was only back for two weeks to steal eyeballs off Advent then disappeared back into the void.

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>>61254011
Now that I don't buy. She was forced to come back to stream for those 2 weeks because it would get all the casual viewers who were only subbed to her to come back and watch Hololive again. Doing that would get the algorythm to push out the newly debuted talents to peoples recommended feeds because the accounts are sort of tied together and Cover was hoping some of those viewers of Gura might see the new girls and try them out.

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>>61246148
>Gura, Ina, and Ame have all taken turns absolutly crushing 'myth unity' over the last year and a half.
I doubt any of Myth like how things are going with Cover but the difference is how much they value Hololive. Mori cares for her music career so tries to avoid rocking the boat while Kiara wants to be an idol and does her best to be professional with management. The rest are more willing to get into fights with management and that means they sometimes get radio silent "health" breaks.

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>>61245121
>it must SUCK organizing anything big at all.
Imagine working in streaming industry and you're pressured to do something with other streamers not even because it was a legal obligation but because some orange cunt's whim wanting to stand out above others.
Fuck off KFP. Live and die by solo content, you fags.

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>>61254009
Comparing them is a false equivalence.
Kiara hosted what one collab, that she fucked up after throwing everyone else on blast for fucking up collabs, two if you count the anniversary relay.
Ame has been trying to herd all of them for three years.

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>>61244987
Without Ame, the group is dysfunctional

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>>61253701
Agreed. While I feel bad about her album's issues she does draw a lot of negativity onto herself for no reason, best example is magni and vesper's graduation. She's made it clear she wants nothing to do with the boys but regardless felt the need to address it in the worst way possible.

For fuck's sake that was embarrassing to watch. And I don't buy the "pre-chat was spamming" shit because when the stream started no one was talking about it til she brought it up. She's a twitter addict and saw it from there.

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>>61249381
their criticisms sure do seem to bother you a lot

[Anonymous No.]

I do find it pretty funny how Ame threw a fit and told her viewers to improve themselves and then spent the following year imploding on herself
>>61251381
>reminder that the worms tournament was meant to be hololive only and no one replied to her
I don't remember the exact details because it's been awhile but this turned out to be bullshit
Immediately following it you had people like Kiara explicitly saying how she's been wanting to play Worms with everyone and Fauna bringing up how she really likes collabs and wants to do more
Someone else also brought up stuff about collabs but I can't remember
Point is there were enough girls, she just wanted to play with homos

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>>61254268
>best example is magni and vesper's graduation
>For fuck's sake that was embarrassing to watch
nice job outing yourself retard everyone thought that was based and gigastacy

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>>61246798
Gura is attached to Ame's hip. What are you talking about?

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>>61254416
>threw a fit and told her viewers to improve themselves
You mean said one throw away line to get unicorns off her back that /vt/ has been throwing a fit about ever since?

[Anonymous No.]

>>61254489
Found the KFP dipshit. I swear they are so loyal they decide to have brains the size of chickens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61254195
>Live and die by solo content, you fags.
>posts picture of person who was dying by solo content so they joined a corpo and is part of two popular hologroups (micomet and shiraken)

[Anonymous No.]

>>61254489
>Kiara shits on homos
>gigastacy!
>Kiara shits on management
>gigastacy!
>Kiara shits on other fanbases
>gigastacy!
>Kiara shits on other branchmates
>gigastacy!
Wow she is such a gigastacy! It's a mystery why nobody likes her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61254530
He means that gura fucking disappeared and delusional cumbuds decided she is "protesting the homos" and "standing up to manegement"

[Anonymous No.]

guys we need to keep supporting!

[Anonymous No.]

>>61254826
This has some reNPC energy kek based

[Anonymous No.]

>>61254398
>>61253701
Seething, boiling, cracked.
Imagine all you could have done in those 3 years, instead you spent all that time whining about a chicken woman on the internet, and for what, what have you accomplished exactly? Nothing.
Face it, you seethe because you wish your oshi was Kiara, someone that loves her fans, showers them with affection, projects streams, instead you settled for trash that treats like you shit to be scraped off someone's foot, so you lash out at everything your oshi could have been.
I would say keep crying but given that we've done this song and dance for 3 years, I don't think you faggots ever stopped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61255062
are you okay

[Anonymous No.]

>>61255062
You've done nothing but prove you need therapy and time away from the internet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61255092
>>61255218
seething chumcucks. NTA but hes right you know. As a proud pemaloe, I can say it feels fucking good to have an oshi that loves you

[Anonymous No.]

>>61254826
You think he'd be singing a different tune if he was paying to be membered to her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>61255062
Chicken woman can be annoying but she actually streams and likes her fans, which despite her issues, puts her above a lot of the other sluts. Yeah people will keep seething because the horse they backed turned to shit, but it's not her fault EN standards are so pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61254596
https://litter.catbox.moe/1jl3v6.jpeg

[Anonymous No.]

>>61255409
Tbh probably. Man doesnt even know how long this has been going for I assume. Also i legit found people going "OH MY GOD SO THATS WHAT SHES BEEN WORKING ON ALL THIS TIME!" fucking retards are hilarious holy shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61255368
It feels better to have an oshi who loves you and also is loved by others

[Anonymous No.]

>>61248639
>That's only her member streams though, and that's because she is parasocial as fuck and literally talks to nobody outside of KFP.
Thats some huge dyrbi anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>61255613
settle down you fuck that guy probably has a family, you can't do this to them

[Anonymous No.]

>>61255655
chumfucks deserve everything thrown at them. endless shitty bait threads and up to 3 generals now. This place is fucking lucky im not a jannie

[Anonymous No.]

>>61246187
Because she did faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>61255735
Did you reply to the wrong person? He was praising that guy for burning you so hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61253840
Most remaining chumbuds have been in full-blown cope mode since the start of the latest ghosting. Hearing her voice would make them instantly forget about the ghosting.
Really, Gura only needs to stream once every week, and the chumbies would be 100% behind her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61255809
Yes i did i feel dumb now. Sorry dude

[Anonymous No.]

>Chumbuds overtake Hololive global
>Make GGG
>Made a chumbud general
>Now trying to go spin doctor on every thread since Kiara and Ame dropped their purses over Halloween
Chumbuds, i'm sorry to say this, but you're overtaking KFP in the schizo department

[Anonymous No.]

>>61248279
Have they even directly interacted once? Like I know there have been the big branchwide holiday collabs where everyone is there in VRchat but I don't remember the two of them ever talking to each other during one of those.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61256019
They overtook them a long time ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61255911
They would be satisfied with once every other week.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm sure that by this point any "chumbud" is like a chumfossil.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61256275
They survive by having lost all their long term memory to cooming too much.
Every day is one of fresh hope and agony for them.

[Anonymous No.]

This is the source by the way: https://youtu.be/HWhMYVrjRjE?t=3481

[Anonymous No.]

>>61255613
Wait. Are you saying people dont like Kaela?

[Anonymous No.]

>>61245121
myth is just a dead gen at this point. an elephant graveyard. might as well graduate them all and give us an entirely new one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61256854
They already gave you two new gens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61256609
Man I forgot that Kiara model is super fucking hot

[Anonymous No.]

>>61254195
yeah fuck you Kiara for taking your job seriously, what a bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>61244987
When Gura returns, everything will be right again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61246545
Getting anything done in MYTH
Since you mentioned promise easily managed theirs afterwards

[Anonymous No.]

>>61258134
Noting can be done in myth anymore since myth includes gura and she's dead

[Anonymous No.]

Who the fuck cares about full generation collabs? Just grab whoever is available that night across every gen and you can have collabs a lot more frequently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61258490
This. Ask JP Gen 2 about their full gen collabs. Some gens have unity, some don't. If yours doesn't, work with someone else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61258682
I mean we do get mixed gen collabs, we just got one with ame/mumei/irys/bibo/zeta
People just ignore that and say it doesn't count

[Anonymous No.]

>>61255062
She's not going to fuck you unless you're a female with slanted eyes bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>61248782
Yes it’s a fact Kronii betrayed her fans for cock but it’s also a fact she renewed her contract and won’t be leaving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61255518
Unless Gura is working on several fucking anime movies there's no excuse for her to be silent for months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61247827
Because both of them actually work. They understand they agreed to a job and actually have obligations to fulfil and go further because they actually enjoy it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61254144
Gura could have done literally anything else to support advent. Like saying "please take a look at our newest gen advent" or "I'm going to raid advent after my stream" or "you know, I talked to advent a little bit and..." but no, she said "I should be more like fuwamoco" and that was it. Literally nothing to directly help advent. But no, she HAD to not help them directly! It's the best way to help them!

[Anonymous No.]

>>61259351
>Yes it’s a fact Kronii betrayed her fans for cock
Unicorn subhumans aren't people, they don't count as fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>61244987
You called?

[Anonymous No.]

>>61254416
>improve-
fuck off with that already, she just said that to get them off her back

[Anonymous No.]

>>61252260
Yeah, Ame and Gura (mostly Gura) have been really out of it and ever since her big break Ina's been streaming regularly. This recent break is only because of family issues and has been the only hiccup in the last few months. She should at least be above Gura/Ame in reliability imo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61247577
>>61247674
>>61248516
it was obvious to anyone with a brain
Mori success was 100% leeching off Gura and playing the victim/pity card early
then we all learnt her true nature
she's a piece of shit. no wonder she got along with victim queen ironmouse so well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61247827
When life has left you broke and broken you know what a blessing something like hololive is and to take full advantage of life throwing you a bone. From the stories kiara and mori have told during zatsus I'm not surprised by their good work ethic

[Anonymous No.]

>>61255368
Yeah, you need therapy alright. I never even mentioned gura in any of my posts but the moment critique your 'oshi' you turn to attack mode like a dumbass drone who can't tell the difference between critique and flat out hate.

I was into kiara in 2022 because I felt like despite her rough start she started to let go of personal gripes, with her birthday 3D she really shills Ame for keeping it together with the shit they went through.

She had a twitter space encouraging people to watch the boys despite stating she prefers girls but even goes the extra mile by calling out people who would refer to acknowledge their existence out of spite.

Hell, even when the whole kronii shit thing was going down she took the bait and responded to a superchat in a clever way that dodged the question and promoted her holotalk with Yagoo.

If your retarded chicken brain hasn't figured it out by now, I considered myself a KFP too, I even bought her 2nd anniversary blanket, which I still use despite not following her now. And frankly, I want her to do well, but at this moment her past is catching up to her, and I'm not excusing bad decisions and her general attitude at the moment. If I do, I'm not engaging with any of you shitty KFP dumbasses. Y'all can burn for all I care.

The sad irony is KFP is a terrible influence for Kiara, and posts like these prove it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61259743
still waiting for you to support your leeachbeat mori
seems everyone else out numbers the homobeggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>61261521
Why would I care about mori?
I never cared about her in the first place and after the whole post-surgery collab fiasco my dislike only grew.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61261521
powerwash beating a minecraft stream with that many overlaps kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>61263154
numberfags deserve the rope

[Anonymous No.]

>>61250907
>>61252500
>>61252741
>>61259351
Cope. Kronii will absolutely graduate in 2024

[Anonymous No.]

>>61263524
Once she does graduate, and they all will eventually, it's not going to be to move to fucking vshoujo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61254684
I don't see micomet and shiraken concert, where is it?
>>61257357
Not at the expense of others, bozo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61247424
Since the Airbnb rape , everything changed

[Anonymous No.]

>>61248652
White Friend Experience?

[Anonymous No.]

>>61251153
Gura has 0 charisma. She’s a living shitpost and never learned a punchline other than “bet you didn’t expect me to have a cum jar on my desk, did you? Isn’t that wild and unexpected of me?” The Deadpool of vtubers, but with half of the wit of an actual writer or improvisational actor.
She appeals to children and faggots (pedophiles).

[Anonymous No.]

Ame literally just did a 5 man collab a few days ago, while Ina's nearly finished with her sister's marriage and her dad's retirement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61265664
That is clearly not true.
Why is she popular then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>61251381
Amelia and Gura have the emotional maturity of teenagers. Everyone learns early in adulthood that when your coworkers are pieces of shit, you keep your head down and focus on your own job.
Kiara and Calliope have remained friendly after years of drama surrounding one another precisely because, for all their personal flaws, they can still show up, turn their stream on, and do their job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61265873
because most people are retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>61251153
>You guys joke a lot but tbe moment gura leaves, EN as a whole will stagnate, it will just be a circular motion of fans or a really slow growth, like real slow.
It's already happened. Gura has long since checked out, Myth and Promise are going through the motions, and it'll eventually happen to Advent. Gura formally leaving will only hurt Cover's coffers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61265908
holy cope, I bet you blame that for the reason of being a loser too

[Anonymous No.]

>>61251574
>It might even put the whole perception about what counts as ''big noombers'' back into perspective.
Only in EN, JP is as strong as ever. The difference is worth discussing though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61244987
Damn I miss those times when the girls would jump into VRChat for Halloween and just goof around and chat about whatever

[Anonymous No.]

>>61266108
Most of her remaining fans are casuals who don't care that she doesn't want to stream or communicate with her fans anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61252500
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>61265908
What do you think charisma is?
Something that applies exclusively to if you like someone or not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>61248782
On the contrary, Kronii need to stay in Hololive to give financial support for Vesper, for now

[Anonymous No.]

>>61266472
so true sis

[Anonymous No.]

>>61265873
why did starfield make a lot of money?

[Anonymous No.]

>>61267365
Do you think games have charisma?
More to the point do you think comparing starfield, a mediocre game that was highly anticipated and then forgotten about in weeks compares to keeping up popularity for years?

[Anonymous No.]

>>61245121
>kiara
>mori?
>advent
>mumei?
>fauna?

[Anonymous No.]

>>61245730
>Somehow I blame Mori for this.
Based.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61247256
Everyone forgets she exists sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61266108
no, i blame the fetal alcohol syndrome on that

[Anonymous No.]

>>61245315
Man Council really is the giga Chad Gen.
>had to follow Coco's graduation
>retarded managers
>Niji All Out War
>Luxiem causing EN management to get stuck in the male trap
>Member graduation
>their debut was delayed due to tech issues and like 20% of the people just didn't come back for the actual debut
>YouTube nuked their subs like 3 times
>had to follow Myth
>had to hold the line when FUCKING EVERYONE DIED in 2022
>one of the longest gaps between generations between then and Advent

Love these girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61245315
spbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>61268933
Sana was a mark on the group as a whole, but once that faggot manager got kicked out and they essentially shifted Irys into the group, it's really good.
I can't say that I watch any of them individually much, but I really do like all of their group collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61244987
Post the clip

[Anonymous No.]

Your threads get worse by the day, CouncilSchizo...

[Anonymous No.]

>>61257133
(You) faggots were told for at least a year that new gens wouldn't fix jack shit. EN still doesn't have the support the main branch (JP) has nor do they have their work ethic. (You) enabled this

[Anonymous No.]

>>61268933
You weren't here for myth and it shows.
They had to deal with no fucking management support, no senpais, 3D delayed indefinitely.
Nobody really thought they would succeed and they got no support for anything.
There was reason the "Amelia, in a cave, with a box of scraps" came about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61245121
Like fan like oshi
Though in the oshi's part, she saw how much of a cunt the people paying her bills can be and now has a divisive internal crisis

[Anonymous No.]

>>61244987
why are they 8 people total the game is 5v5

[Anonymous No.]

>>61270890
Advent, Ame, Kiara, and maybe Ina. Promise won't show up if Kiara is there since she hates IRyS. IRyS is the coleader of Promise now so you know the deal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61244987
The Magni and Vesper of Myth

[Anonymous No.]

>>61271435
Irys need a german correction

[Anonymous No.]

>>61271652
But losers defend cuz cunny+vajayjay

[Anonymous No.]

>>61267365
You can't prove starfield made any money. Huge majority of its players are on Gamepass, so its "sales" are unmeasurable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61268933
I like Mumei, IRyS and Fauna. I used to like Kronii and I still do, I just haven't watched her stream for a few months but other than that I've watched 100% of all of their streams. They are great. It's just bad that (1) Kobo showed the world that vtubing isn't dead by blasting straight to 2 mil in about 5 seconds which makes Council look weird. and (2) Advent dogs are about to start passing Council members which is also... Unfortunate? I dunno, I don't like the dogs so it bums me out seeing them pass streamers I do like, but it's whatevs I guess. Not like they'll graduate when it happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61269911
The situation was much worse for the early hololive JP girls, yet right now they are as strong as ever and still highly successful. The entire brand was essentially ran out of a tiny office space with the most barebones equipment. Long before myth started, all the fucking heavy lifting to generate capital for cover corp was due to their JP senpai. Myth inherited a position in an already well established company with great financial backing.
Girls like Aqua and Subaru have been busting their asses off for years to get to where they are today meanwhile Gura and Ina basically tapped out two years after debut. There're no excuses for this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61271435
Why does everyone rrat the Kiara and Irys hate each other shit?
Although I'm sad Kiara hasn't really reached out to FuwaMoco (or the other way around). I need 3 autistic idol loves with similar pasts get together and talk. It might just be because FuwaMoco haven't really gotten too personal yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61263154
The Bae debuff is real

[Anonymous No.]

>>61251153
>Gura leaving will break all of EN
How can she break something she's not participating in? That's like saying the NBA will break up because I'm not playing in it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61247827
Unironically active in life. Mori has her music passions and drive to get things done. I don't like her but I do respect her. Kiara and her fans are like an Ouroboros loop, they feed off each other. And Kiara has a ton of energy, she's always going off and doing stuff. Gura, Ame, and Ina just slouch in their rooms. They have no energy, no goals, not motivation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61253612
>Ame is burned out trying to carry all of myth while they don't give a shit.

Lmao Ame started phoning it in since the second month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61251483
Gura wants the small viewership of an indie with the big money of being a major corpo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61273456
Gura has already functionally left the company a year ago and HoloEN is still strong. People act as if she's some fucking bedrock of Hololive ehrn in reality she's essentially been gone for a year wand with one foot out the door for much longer than that

[Anonymous No.]

>>61273649
What the actual fuck are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>61248647
>Apologies if genuine
You damn well know that’s a KFP doing the whole I didn’t like Kiara but now she’s just so great routine

[Anonymous No.]

>>61273756
People assume that the minute Gura leaves, HoloEN will either become 'the bad guys' or leave the zeitgeist. They aren't going to have another boom of viewership so it's retarded to think that they'd completely die if Gura left. They would need another flagship person/character if they had to retire her from a graduation, forced or otherwise. It'd be interesting who'd they'd pick and if I had to guess it'd either be Fauna or Mumei.
Biboo has an accent and we all know it's a roll of the dice if the public/casuals will like the accent so she's out. She's also too new to gamble on. Shiori is in the same boat. None of Myth are heavy-hitting enough anymore to really become the flagship.
While FuwaMoco do well, they are very much an acquired taste and will turn many away with the JP-isms, hype weeb tenancies, and JP streams. Irys is just too feminine, as dumb as it sounds. There's no way casuals or women would want to watch her. Bae is in the accent category too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61273297
The early gens didn't walk into the company expecting it to be a full time job with idol shit included, it was a part time job you did for fun or extra cash.
By the time Myth came around, there were expectations of what the company would do to support their talents and Myth got none of that. Ame recently revealed that HoloEN only had 3 staff members which were Jenma, J-chad and Omega. J-chad is useless outside of music and Omega actively obstructed shit.
It's fucking pathetic that Myth is going into year 4 already with none of them being able to have a 3D live on their actual birthday, something every JP Holo gets pretty much guaranteed in their first year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61274199
> They would need another flagship person/character
You say that as thought they choose gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61274575
They didn't choose her, but she fell into it and they played into it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61257485
for three or two days then she will fuck out for a month or more

[Anonymous No.]

>>61274199
Mumei definitely, she has wider appeal, Gura-ish voice, crazy owl image, and can market herself with songs. Fauna has peak streamer skills, bur that's something you would have to discover after getting pulled into Hololive ecosystem by Mumei, and Fauna would hate being put in the spotlight to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

as of now EN has 15 chuubas, If Kiara and Ame can't make use of anything then that's fully on them, fucking these talentless whores and their obnoxious fanbases I swear

[Anonymous No.]

>>61274868
Mumei would be perfect if she wasn't so spaced out all the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>61244987
Translation:
It's just women being women.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61273354
https://youtu.be/2wdfeUFj9nU?si=BGI8Ug7zrH6pkvWk&t=40

[Anonymous No.]

>>61274892
I want to remind you exactly who they're dealing with.
There was a company-wide, branch seperated, mandated collab at the start and end of Hololives collab with Among Us. The talents in charge (assuming the ones with skins in the game) of the collaboration ghosted and refused to play, leaving Kiara to pick up the mantel, beg others in EN to play, and finally had to resort to asking the ID branch to do a double header for her to make a big enough roster for the game to be at least somewhat fun to watch. Mori was out of country with spotty internet so it was a risk to have her play. The other 3 Myth members, 2 of whom had skins in-game and were obviously getting paid for that, just decided they didn't want to. Meme all you want about how paid sponserships or Among Us is gay, but it's still a job and they sherked the fuck out of their duties.
Do you really think people who won't evsn do a collab that's part of a company wide thing that makes them money directly will ever want to actually get together outside of that for collabing or unity?

[Anonymous No.]

>>61260523
Ironics since life has fucked ame the hardest so you would think she would be different. Her poor upbringing influenced her too much which is explains why she's acting like a bum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61274827
Three days of kino content, Can't wait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61276486
Please, its "kino" because no males.

[Anonymous No.]

Ame and Gura
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVqzyrfiDGM

[Anonymous No.]

>>61244987
you're assuming its gura, but i think its more likely that gura is ignoring all their messages, she's more likely referring to someone from promise, or ame

[Anonymous No.]

>>61254195
>Imagine working in streaming industry and...
no stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61245121
>EN
quit projecting myth problems onto the whole branch

[Anonymous No.]

>>61247256
Comakun, it's not 2021 anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>61245315
Bae is dead weight, fauna had a mental breakdown because of schizo here attacking her private life, kronii is barely around. The entire gen is just mumei

[Anonymous No.]

>>61269911
>Nobody really thought they would succeed
Only at the very beginning. Once Gura started taking off, everyone knew they'd be fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61277554
Mumei has like half as much stream time this year as Kiara. The fact that she's the most popular Promise girl doesn't bode well for the group .The future of Hololive EN is Advent

[Anonymous No.]

>>61277554
hell yeah we moomin

[Anonymous No.]

>>61277554
>Bae is dead weight
The one who literally did the most work for the picrel you just replied to?

[Anonymous No.]

With Gura on break, I keep getting AI covers recommended to me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pouw2cVfaCU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prqyeuzV7NE
They will have to do for now.
Have to respect her influence. There are many AI covers of Gura out there.

This is what Gura would sing in her past life:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U49bhUyqRiw

[Anonymous No.]

>>61279447
>No streams
>Fans recreated her voice and made more AI covers than she has real songs
>Bootleg merch everywhere
All that's left to make her obsolete is to perfect an AI Gura streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61279703
It's already happening. So many AI covers of her. New Gura content is made without her streaming.
The first AI voice mod for BG3 was AI Gura. Which I'm currently using to replace Astarion.
No wonder many normies thought Gura was an AI.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61278631
Hard work means nothing since nobody cares about the stuff she does

[Anonymous No.]

>>61245399
Kinda but no. Bettel did it first, then did it with his twin, and then Promise did their collab.

Promise did an actual collab with the game first though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61278631
He doesn't actually streams, he's just a shitty numberhooman from /#/ who's too busy botting her streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>61275504
>Kiara and KFPiss want to be corpo bootlickers
maybe this whore should start with the basic things to be followed like "don't dox their employees"

[Anonymous No.]

>>61277980
>The future of Hololive EN is Advent
Which in itself is Grim considering the 2 black ones are among the bottom of HoloEN in numbers, and considering that cover had to give up a 5th channel the dogs would probably be there too. Only Biboo is carrying that gen lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61275504
Threadreader

[Anonymous No.]

>>61254195
The irony being that Kiara has a smaller percentage appearing in collabs, when you compare her appearances on stream in 2023 with Gawr Gura

Since Kiara actually does solo streams outside of events and management enforced streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>61254268
>KFP would never bring up Holostars in Kiara's chat
Are we talking about the same KFP that made Lunchbox a mod, who said to me that you should respect the homos as much as Kiara?
God you are full of bullshit, kill yourself Kiaraschizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>61259351
>Yes it’s a fact Kronii betrayed her fans for cock
False, prove it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61280957
Now I'm not buying whatever the fuck that guy is selling, using the "Addressing the Graduation" as an example was just coming at it with bad faith towards Kiara, so fuck him.
However, prechat definitely was not spamming about it, maybe one or two retards may have strayed there and I missed it, but I was there and I definitely think she just saw it on Twitter when she was typing out her starting tweet.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't really care to see Kiara collab with Hakka or any of the boys, but I do want to see art of KFP with Hakkitos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61244987
Why are we pretending that Gura would not appear when Kiara asks her?
Do I need to remind you anons that Gura has done more collabs with Kiara than with Gura?

[Anonymous No.]

>>61281276
Okay why are you so anal about where Kiara saw it? It is fucking weird

[Anonymous No.]

>>61248494
Sounds like you are getting the wife experience

[Anonymous No.]

>>61248782
Kronii has it too good in Hololive to leave. Don't mistake Holo for Niji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61280008
>Which I'm currently using to replace Astarion
Like, just his voice? Or do you have a model replacement as well?

[Anonymous No.]

>>61251483
Biggest bull shit I've heard and there has been interesting discussions before you hot pile of shit take. Gura sabotaged the latest gen so her money bags still pick her first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61281348
You fucking asshat decided to twist anon's word into something else because of some gripes you have with some stupid kfpfags. I'm just correcting it.
He may have gone at it with bad faith, but what he said about "pre-chat spamming wasn't the case" was factual.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61249401
>the new girld dwarf her in ccv
Not really. Shiori is on a speedrun to get below Kiara, and Nerissa isn't really that far behind. Mori is around Kiara level now, and Ina has dropped a lot too. (Same with Ame.) Kronii still has a high ceiling, but her regular numbers are pretty poor, sometimes going below 4k, while Bae has always been at a similar place.
The only HoloEN members that consistently outpace Kiara are: Gura (when she actually streams), Fauna, Mumei, Fuwamoco, IRyS and Bijou.

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>>61280418
>Post disproven rrat as proof of dox
Stop being a retard

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>>61251381
>the worms tournament was meant to be hololive only and no one replied to her
Sincerely, how did she not see this coming? Inviting homos was a death sentence. Or do you mean that she tried inviting people and only invited homos after they declined?
>MEMBERS were the ones in fault for overhyping every single thing she does
Ouch, that's rough. (For both Ame and members.)

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>>61248152
Please keep that boring stump Gura away from my perfect nephilim

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>>61280418
>Image says that you are a schizo for believing that Kiara doxxed Subaru
>Kiara doxxed Subura
Why do you admit that you are a schizo, anon?

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>>61282114
>Kiara doxxed Subura
Israel, dios mio

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>>61282114
>retarded /jp/ fags who didn't know anything about the psychopath named Cake Princess
>random nip cared about holoEN
>said random nip also knew Kiara's rm
perhaps the schizo here is (you)

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>>61273138
The dogs are actually good though. They aren't my favorite, but I have no bad feelings at all about their success. They deserve it.
Don't look at it as if the Promise girls are losing 'cause they aren't. They're still going strong in their individual lanes. "mumei" is the best holoEN orisong to date and that only dropped 15 days ago. Another member having more subs doesn't take away from the strengths of the other girls. Only numberfags who don't watch said members' streams would think so.

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>>61271435
>IRyS is the coleader of Promise now
Promise is an anarchist commune with a flat power structure. None of the girls have the clout or the will to hold the reins.

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>>61280418
Holy shit. I am glad I'm not a JP hololiver. That shit is terrifying.

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>>61274868
>Come for the Mumei, stay for the Fauna
Coom in the Moom, Let Me Stay Here by Ceres Fauna

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>>61282927
That's how it worked for me, more or less. Mumei was the one who got me more interested in following vtubers after Council debut, but after around a year it was Fauna who kept me coming. And watching too, I guess.

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>>61282594
>The dogs are actually good though
They do all the things vtubers are "supposed" to do but their real personalities leave something to be desired

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>>61274199
>>61274868

This speculation is pointless because Gura's "replacement" is Mori. She has the second most subs in EN and is known outside of the vtuber bubble, for better or for worse. She's bilingual, which gives her higher appeal in the Japanese market, on top of being in Japan where the company is located. The metrics you guys use to gauge success or appeal aren't the same ones Cover does. They made Bae the vrchat representative despite Ame being by far the biggest user of it, and more popular options.

Besides, if Gura can be the top EN holo without streaming, Mori can be the top with mediocre CCV.

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>>61251381
>Gura and Kiara are at least 50% of part of the demotivation she has with projects nowadays
Why are you blaming Kiara, a massive Ame fan?

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>>61261730
>post-surgery collab fiasco
Qrd?

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>>61284661
>Mori
Literally grim.

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>>61284722
From what I gather from that mess of a post, he blames Kiara for fangirling Ame so hard that she feels obliged to keep up with projects and Ame can't handle the attention that is brought in by Kiara hyping her up.

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>>61247674
>Even Kiara, who was trying to buddy up
Anything and everything that includes Kiara feels artificial. From the way Ina and Gura talked about each other during the Japan trip, it seems like they were both inseparable and Kiara was rarely brought up.
Kiara must be a social pariah within Myth with how much she puts everyone on blast, talks about how hard she works and how much MORE deserving of numbers she is, and with how backhanded every compliment she give sounds like. That's why she had to leave the branch, not just her gen but the entire EN branch, to find some sort of friend she can latch onto. And that's when she found Reine

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>>61244987
Keep on coping
the quality of her streams are consistent when she returns, that is all that matters
actual fans have patience

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>>61285897
Her new costume was fucking blurry as hell during the reveal and when she used it the next time it still wasn't fixed.

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>>61284661
>Besides, if Gura can be the top EN holo without streaming, Mori can be the top with mediocre CCV.
A fair point

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>>61283977
And what is their real personality?

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>>61281577
Mod only changes voice, but since my Astarion is an Assassin/Gloomstalker. I use the disguise spell to also change her into a female gnome. There is also a mod that allows to change to many premade characters in game...updated as more discovered.

But since the last patch added the mirror at camp to allow more appearance options for the main character and hirelings. Already seen hacks that allow to also change companions' appearance with the mirror. By using cheat engine or console commands.
I'm personally waiting for a more stable mod for that, with the disguise spell being good enough for now.

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>>61285553
She also couldn’t handle Gura wanting to play games and collabing with her all the time. She hated being her “side kick” and stopped collabing with her basically all together…

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>>61284661
>She has the second most subs
Who gives a fuck about subs if viewership is low?
>The metrics you guys use to gauge success or appeal aren't the same ones Cover does
True, they have access to actual profits, which is the only number that matters. Barring that though, CCV and vod views are more indicative of success than subs.
I don't get why you deadbeats keep pushing Mori like this. She's probably doing well with her music, but she will never ever be the top dog when it comes to streaming. That train has long passed.

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>>61286608
It’s still possible for her to become top dog of streaming as well as any of the other girls outside of Sora because she gets scared of big numbers. The trends and random luck plays a big part like Aki and her Ark streams.

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>>61282434
>There is still no proof that Kiara doxxed Subaru or that she sold info to zhangs
Good to know that schizos are wrong

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>>61285834
>Kiara was rarely brought up, and Gura always talked about Ina
Wow Trinityfags still exist RUMAO

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>>61277980
the holo en fanbase loves girls who don't stream though

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>>61286826
If constant music, singles, EPs, LPs, albums, back to back big name collabs such as One Piece and Metal Gear dont get her more attention, a bigger ccv and vod views then Cali is no were near being a top dog within streaming.
She's more like a dead goldfish in a top of the line fishtank. No matter how much money and fancy gadgets you throw at it, it's bound to end up dead in the water

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>>61280418
>Some schizo decides to follow Kiara around
>It's Kiara's fault that she didn't realize a schizo was following her to Subaru's house
How the fuck can you blame her for some extreme stalker shit? If you're gonna cite that she should be doing anything on her RM, people still managed to dig pictures up of basically everyone in Hololive and that would be all that's needed for her to get spotted in Japan. Also classic that you just jump to whining about it being a paid collab. This is a fucking job, do your job and don't shirk your resposibilities onto your coworkers.
>>61280526
How so you dumb faggot? Did you not watch the Among Us collab, where Kiara stated she wasn't supposed to be the host? Sounds like you might be the threadreader here.
>>61283977
Their twitterspace had way more of their personality on display than basically any of their streams. It's kind of sad, I think they're afraid of making people upset with shit like their takes on anime or visual novels and don't want to exclude anyone. You could tell with their hesitation to talk about Mococo's extreme dislike of isekai. I'm hoping as stuff starts to cool off frok the debut jitters and influx, they'll get a little looser. Still enjoy most of their content though.

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>>61251381
>it’s literally everyone but Ame’s fault that at she’s acting like a neurosurgeon burnt out after 20 years of hundred hour weeks after 3 years of playing videogames and occasionally singing a song.

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>>61250788
Ame hasn’t organised shit since like 2022. To go through big Myth collabs or events this year
Mythoffcollab-Mori
Unbelievably Believable-Kiara
Easter egg hunt-Kiara
April Fools-Ina
English learning-Mori
TTRPG-Mori
Minecraft Haunted House-Mori

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>>61247256
Name 3 collabs Ame organised this year.

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>>61247256
she managed to make mumei, zeta, and biboo (who has stated that she forces herself to socialize to overcome her introversion) look like social butterflies in the ow2 collab earlier this week. absolutely clocked out, zero attempts at any real conversation, nothing but "y-yeah, haha" tier quips.
and that isn't even a new thing, ame frequently out-dead fishes ina in collabs for the past, and even ina's improved a lot while ame just gets worse. there's nothing that suggests she wants to be in collabs at all, let alone be the one organizing one.

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>>61287275
No, no, they'd excuse it so long as no male comes into the stream ever or if it does, gets severely embarassed (ie Garnt in Kiara Shadowverse collab). When you think about it...its really just another weird shade of feminazi.

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>>61285897
>>61285942
Was there even some prior announcement that she is gonna have one? It felt so sudden, and all art predictions looked like some intern has drawn them in Paint during lunch.

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>>61273978
Came back into this thread just to tell you that youre wrong. I never liked Kiara for the first 1.5-2 years, i dont LOVE her but i like her WAY more now. You cumpedos are just this retarded are you?

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>>61288196
i'll also add onto this. hated kiara too for pretty much the same period of time. nowadays, sometimes i've even intentionally turned on one of her streams or vods. genuinely think kiara's improved a lot. i'm a long way from being kfp still, but i also like her a lot more now than i ever could have considered when i started watching myth

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>>61247256
do you even watch ame? her content level is so low effort compared to how she use to be. it's the very definition of clocked out. hopefully she's gone soon

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>>61244987
>No EN girl wants to step to the mantle
>gets mad that gura doesn't respond to their begging

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>>61245121
>God you can just FEEL the tension in EN
take your meds

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>>If Gura leaves Hololive, the most subscribed EN vtuber will be Fillian

I hope you know what you are asking for

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>>61290389
Not Mori?

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>>61269619
> once that faggot manager got kicked out
Literally never happened. If Omega did leave, it was on her terms.
You should get out of the habit of attributing everything you don’t like to one person. It betrays your low intelligence.

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>>61275998
Kiara and Calli were middle class people who weren't as lucky as they should have been, mostly because of putting everything into their unrealistic dreams. Ame was legit shit out of luck, only to suddenly skyrocket into this. Maybe it's some type of survivor's guilt given all the other trailer trash kids who never even stood a chance.

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>>61282594
Someone else said it best: the shit dogs are two people each with the personality of 45% of an actual human showing up to do a stream. I can understand the appeal to children, but it baffles me that grown men watch that garbage.

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>>61250415
>If we talk about her music, i think wanderer is the best song she has ever done because it really fits her voice imo.
I'm a /mu/tard who usually hates all vtuber music but I gave it a listen out of curiosity after reading this thread and it's really good wow

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>>61290706
>3 managers running all of EN
>One comes out and steps forward as the progenitor of decisions.
>People hate the decisions and attribute them to the front-facing persona.
>They disappear into the background
>New hire pops up.
>Bunch of shit changes relatively quickly.
I'm not gonna say there wasn't a group of people who made some of those decisions, but when multiple talents hint at SOMEONE not a group of someones on the back end fucking shit up, you kinda gotta believe.

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>>61290389
Nobody is ever going to give a shit about MUH FILLIAN no matter how much you post about how she’s “totally Le MOGGING”

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>>61290709
Kiara was white trash of the EU variety. Her mom was a single mom with 3 kids who ran through boyfriends because her father abandoned her family. She also moved a lot which meant instablity for her ability to make friends and develope relationships. Just slightly better than gypse tier. On top of that she went to what you could consider inner city schooling in the EU, where she got consistantly bullied by forgeiner kids for being a weeb and having a big forehead.
I won't argue that Ame had it better because I don't believe it for a second based on all the shit I've heard that Kiara had it worse, but Kiara and her family were still pretty slummy in comparison to families like Mori, Ina, or FuwaMoco.

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>>61287960
People have been calling out Amelia for being dead weight in collabs her entire career. I’ll never forget how deflated Ollie was in her first collab with Amelia, after spending hours trying to get Amelia to engage with her.
Teacucks don’t care. They think it’s charming to show up to a function and quietly stare at the wall.

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>>61291038
filian is fun to bully

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>>61244987
what if she meant someone else, because she expects Gura not to show up?

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>>61256348
like some old man with alzheimer's who has to learn every day that his wife is dead

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>>61246148
you fags were always too fixated on "unity".

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>>61291971
Introverts amirite?

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>>61290979
> One comes out and steps forward as the progenitor of decisions.
Again, literally never happened. All Omega said was that she had been part of HoloEN since the beginning.
And nothing any EN manager does happens without A-chan’s approval. If you’re going to be an “all decisions rest on the leader’s shoulders” autist, then A-chan is your boogeyman.