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>this will be your oshi one day

Sucks that this is guaranteed the future, but enjoy your oshi while you still can

>> No.6098108

>>6098074
who?

>> No.6098141

>>6098074
My oshi isn't a numberfag luckily

>> No.6098158

Isn't there a niji out there who is seething because she used to be the top EOP liver and is now lucky to hit 500?

>> No.6098205

>>6098074
Nothing more loathsome than fishing for attention. I'd pray that my oshi has the grace to bow out before they ever get this way.

>> No.6098227

>>6098158
What the fuck are you talking about

>> No.6098228

>>6098074
I remember when people shilled for her before here. She really is just another numberfag whore who can't appreciate 50 people even bothered to like a tweet, glad I ignored her.

>> No.6098340

>>6098205
Lots of our favorites will stay long after things should be over.

>> No.6098350

>>6098074
It makes sense honestly, one day I get 38k on a fanart and the next 2k

like, where the fuck did you guys go?

>> No.6098390

>>6098074
Isn't this that girl Moona's occasionally with?
Tell me, how much is she seething knowing an indog gets higher numbers than she does?

>> No.6098414

numberfagging about your actual youtube channel is one thing, but numberfagging about your twitter account is another

>> No.6098427

>>6098074
This is why you don't pander to EOP. Only has herself to blame.

>> No.6098458

>>6098427
We told her it was because of time zones.

>> No.6098472

>>6098350
Likely twitter fuckery, most people don't even have their timeline set to recent tweets so most stuff gets hidden by the algorithm or by peoples liked posts.

>> No.6098486

Every E-celebrity has to see their fanbase decline sooner or later.
That's why many YouTubers sellout, because you can't always rely on youtube money, specially since the algorithm changes all the time

>> No.6098718

>>6098227
Probably Hana Macchia? Back in the before-HoloEN times, where EOPs were starved for choice content and would latch onto any vtuber who they could understand, she was for a short while a FOTM darling and got some (relatively, for the time) relatively big attention. For example, Mick Gordon came to watch her play Doom.
But since the HoloEN juggernaut hit and got all the normie masses (and ever increasing waves of EN startup vtubers fight over the scrap leftovers), people mostly moved on from her and she's now back to (relative) obscurity.

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>>6098074
>Discord Meme Review
>630 views
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3zIxFVs-Og

See, this is why you shouldn't learn English.

>> No.6098882

>>6098074
Ha, I remember her from back in jaypee, almost two years ago, indie vsinger who could speak some english, and got the typical (really, how often has it happened by now, I could name half a dozen examples off the top of my head) pump and dump saviorfag anons.
Many such cases. Sad.

>> No.6099588

>>6098074
Moona has abandoned her so have all her dead subs. I see her streaming constantly to about 20-50 viewers. Kureha is somewhat interesting but doesn't stand out.

>> No.6099634

>>6098882
Saviorfags are so fickle.

>> No.6099876

>>6098718
Clippers and her Dad put her in the spotlight but her bland, redditard personality and penchant for grandstanding and having pity cry parties in her streams and twitter, have turned off A LOT of potential and former fans.
Most of Vshojo is less cringe than Hana.

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>your oshi will literally become dead one day
think about it!! your oshi one day will just become dead, if japanese cremated with her corpse full of multi color embalming fluid and all her fat goes to liquid in the kiln.... someone come along and smash up the bone chunks to hand to the immediate family in a urn....
or your oshi is not japanese and be buried to be one day a rotted maggot infested pile of bones and green putrid flesh....
how terrible!!!!!

>> No.6099973

>people who follow me must retweet everything I tweet
Why are they like this?

>> No.6100038

>>6099634
Isn't that how it works?
You give them a chance.
Watch the streams for a week or two,
and leave if the quality is still shit.
Why stay and shill when there are thousands more to save?

>> No.6100067

>>6098074
indies aren't people

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>>6099891
never post again

>> No.6100127

>>6099891
Jokes on you I'll die before they do

>> No.6100174

>>6099891
Hot.

>> No.6100269

>>6099973
Because they are the same kind of people who think that having a Vtuber model = instant $$$ from virgin weebs

>> No.6100320

>>6099891
Lies

>> No.6100495

>>6098074
The only thing i know about this girl is that she is friends with moona

>> No.6100802

>>6098718
I haven't watched her in a while, but I remember her having a imposter syndrome really bad, so I'd imagine she'd be happier with a smaller audience.

>> No.6101223

>>6098074
This is one of the #1 sins to streaming. Don't make your audience feel guilty for not doing certain things.

It's plainly not attractive at all.

>> No.6101429

>>6098074
their heart hurting makes my heart hurt. why the fuck is vtubing so full of sadness

>> No.6101665

>>6099891
>to be one day a rotted maggot infested pile of bones and green putrid flesh....
Ollie...

>> No.6101721

>>6098074
>Her streams are 90% dota
That explains it

>> No.6101972

>>6098074
In the end it will be only me left and she will be forced to date me and we will be married and live happily ever after.

>> No.6102157

>>6100038
If it's just a constant rotation of pumping and dumping some random jp indies for a week and then dropping them as soon as the next new poor puppy comes along, you didn't "save" one goddamn thing in the end.

>> No.6102227

>>6098074
Oh, her. I respect the fact that she tried to get an EOP audience before it got big in the west but didn't like that every one of her streams was pandering to them.

>> No.6102281

>>6100802
She suffered from that because she portrayed herself as not just another e-thot

>> No.6102302

>>6098718
She reclined because of those stupid tweets she made shitting on her fans.

>> No.6102308

>>6099588

Moona has changed. She doesn't do the interactions/collabs she did before she got big numbers. She's deleted a lot of her comments on other people's channels as well. Really weird

>> No.6102344

>>6098472
When I finally signed up for Twitter so I could follow Hololive I was amazed at that bullshit. Might as well be tik tok.

>> No.6102423

>>6100269
Kureha in this particular case has been around for long enough to trust that she's not just some recent trend chaser at least. But yeah, public complaining is never a good look, no matter how justified you think you are. If you're not satisfied with the way you're growing, that's probably your own responsibility to do, and not the audience's fault.

>> No.6102569

>>6098472

I've had my Twitter account for well over a decade now, and you can't even change certain things in your settings anymore. I'll have a dozen or so notifications that aren't really notifications but just recommendations to people's tweets. You can't disable seeing other people's liked tweets either, and I've tried messing with the timeline so many times and just can't get shit to appear in chronological order.

I don't really care since I only have it for news and to message my brother and a couple of friends, but still.

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>>6102302
this one?

>> No.6102635

>>6098074

Does she still have that ugly ass module? If so, it's not gonna help matters

>> No.6102697

>>6098074
Twitter is shit

>> No.6102711

>>6098074
thats just normal on twitter desu

>> No.6102714

>>6102599
What the hell is an e girl to begin with?

>> No.6102875
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>>6102714

e = electronic
girl = whore

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>>6098074
I checked out her channel. It's absolutely full of stupid meme shit. The pixelart sunglasses, various poggers faces and a Japanese flag in every thumbnail with 'Japanese girl does this' being most of the titles.

The effort to reach out to EN fans (assuming they first came to her) is always nice to see but she really needs to relax and stop trying to game the system. She gets 1000+ views per video, which isn't too bad for an indie. But those views are likely transient on not based on returning susbscribers when you position your video like this. This shit is pathetic and I hope she realises and tries to be more sincere before it's too late.

>> No.6103133

>>6102599
Ah yes I literally dropped her the day she tweeted this, I'm just too invalid

>> No.6103137

>>6098718
I unironically stopped watching her because she had the habit of becoming unbearably depressed at random.
I don't watch chuubas to be reminded of shitty things

>> No.6103504

>>6102569
for all you guys who hate twitters stupid shit, use tweetdeck, it doesn't work on the recommended bullshit, just the pure tweets.

>> No.6103560

>>6103013
>This shit is pathetic and I hope she realises and tries to be more sincere before it's too late.

I mean, it works for Kiara

>> No.6103561

>>6102308
I didn't know that. For a while she was popping up on everybody's streams. Kureha, Mana Renewal, and the indie IDs all the time. Feels like she's pulling a Miko. At least Ollie still wants to network with chuubas outside Hololive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaZVMdhdaOo

>> No.6103737

>>6102599
This is why I dislike the english speaking branches of niji. At least cover knows to shut people up.

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>>6103561
Ollie is also such a gigachad she is the only currently active holo to interact with Delta in any way. She deleted it not long after but still.

>> No.6103877

>>6103737
The problem with people that speak English is that they are inevitably exposed to Western values, and some adopt them.

>> No.6103911

>>6098074
instead of thanking those 52, she complains, thats the proof of a thot, so better stay away

>> No.6103990

Maybe if she stops being a numberfag, she can appreciate the one's who still watch her. I guess I can kind of understand to some extent. She has more followers but she has less SCs than Oren-chan, that girl? who pays ads to appear on youtube videos, captured the saviourfag market when HoloEN came out, and is celebrating her 1st anniversary right now. Maybe she should try something new and creative to revive her career.

>> No.6104016

>>6098158
You mean Hana? She never said that, it was her fans who said that you dumdum.

>> No.6104175

>>6101223
Kiara does it all the time and she has 1M subs.

>> No.6104243

>>6103866
I have no clue who Delta is. I've seen threads over and over but never checked her out.

>> No.6104308

>>6103561

Moona and Ollie are popular for very different reasons. Moona collaborated with just about anyone early on, but since PekoMoon she's gotten a dedicated JP fanbase and her songs are popular enough that she caught corporate attention, so they've probably told her to keep her streams "normal."

Ollie is flirting with that kind of success, but still being a simp for anyone who gives her any kind of attention. I think she's really annoying personally, but I'm not gonna shit on her if she's successful doing it.

I just think the way Moona is going is a little depressing. Her birthday stream was incredible because it showed just how varied her interactions were. I can't think of a stream where indies, ID, Holostars, and huge names like Peko and Miko were all together. I'm positive by that time next year it'll just be a handful of people stopping by because she doesn't talk to anyone anymore.

>> No.6104510

>>6104243
The sex demon

>> No.6104584

>>6103990
>>6103911
I mean it's understandable. Imagine you work hard for like 4 years, trying everything you know to make it pay off and be sustainable for you, even have a manager. You grow your twitter, hard to do in the first place, and grow your youtube. And after all your hard work for all that time, you're still left with the same kind of numbers for viewers or tweet interactions. It would be super disheartening and everyone in that situations heart would hurt. As an indie you get no advertisement, you're super reliant on fans retweeting your stuff so that half of them even know you've gone live. It certainly doesn't seem like she's not trying hard

>> No.6104771

>>6104243
https://youtu.be/agJUEQXUb0w?t=152
Anon you know who she is.

>> No.6104879

>>6101972
This is the only reason most support indies, a race to the bottom of who will be the last groomer the Vtuber will be forced to acknowledge.

>> No.6104940

>>6104584

Read what this guy wrote >>6103013

Her content may have attracted the people who like this stuff, but she needs variety to grab new people. The "Japanese girl" thing is to bait western people, but how are Japanese viewers supposed to care about this stuff?

>> No.6105070

>>6104510
>>6104771
Ah, reincarnated. Naisu.

>> No.6105258

>>6099634
Saviorfags and DDs are the least loyal of any fans.

>> No.6105326

>>6104940
They don't because she put everything in trying to pander to EN only. And with how fickle they are it's not suprising this is the result.

>> No.6105351

>>6103737
>someone said something I don't like so they should be be silenced
get over yourself anon
>>6104016
She has said that she doesn't like how much attention she'd gotten at the time since most people were just there for her dad or they were clipfags who just repeated the jokes.
>>6104584
I understand how she feels but a guilt trip set of tweets is in bad tastes, if she talk about it on stream I wouldn't mind as at least then she's expressing herself in a setting you can tell its a genuine hurt she feels but a tweets too impersonal and feels super manipulative.
Plus it would be with people who'd legit care about her instead of 1k randos just trying to cheer her up.

>> No.6105717

>>6105351
desu that tweet and her calling out clipfags was one of the reasons I started respecting her more. It obviously would hurt her viewership but she still wanted to say her opinion despite that.

>> No.6106322

>>6103133
at least you know yourself

>> No.6106414

>>6098074
Should have gone out like Coco in a blaze of glory. While having an alt in case you ever want the slow burnout.

>> No.6106584

>>6102599
isn't she calling herself an e-girl in this tweet? is this a self-schizo?

>> No.6106874

>>6106584
Yes and that your oshis also one too.

>> No.6107039

>>6098074
Kurea cries about her viewership or subs or some other form of numbers like once a month. She goes for guilting viewers into watching instead of trying to be more interesting. Hell she bought vive pucks for full body tracking almost 2 years ago, realized they don't work out the box with her oculus and just complained about the wasted money for months instead of trying one of the dozens of ways to pair them. I think she finally did it a few months ago but didn't use it for streaming.

>> No.6107094

>>6102599
I never liked this cunt. Completely lost interest in her after that one Terraria stream. Just showed me what a thin skinned snowflake cunt she was

>> No.6107145

>>6098074
My oshi isn't a disgusting numberfag

>> No.6107727

>>6102599
They hated her because she told the truth.
Look at how any vtuber interacts with their audience, it's literally just 90% simps begging for the streamer's attention. The only reason you wouldn't realize this is if you're an EOP who thinks somehow Japanese girls are immune to pandering to simps.

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>>6098074
>>6098141
>>6107145
Remember that Coco would rather graduate (die) than become a numberfag.

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>>6107727
Heres the obligatory post of the image.

>> No.6108462

>>6107727
To inject a tiny sparkle of brilliance into this board, I shall direct you to the question of whether or not a persons existence is dependent on others.

>> No.6108607

>>6103877
they aren't western values. western values were killed by consumerism and all that's left is the brand

>> No.6108621

>>6098074
Probably mostly bots just like most of Twitter.

>> No.6108708

>>6098074
>EN2 will be like this

the horror

>> No.6108719

>>6101721
you've convinced me to at least watch one of her vods

>> No.6109113

>>6108719
Don't. she doesn't last hit, coward playstyle, tries to compensate not-being-entertaining with weird sounds and the biggest sin of all she plays with a dude. But at least she's getting better over time.

>> No.6109276

>>6109113
A FUCKING MALE!? AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!

>> No.6109617

>>6103133
>>6103737
>>6106584
>>6107094
hit a nerve?

>> No.6109989

>>6103561
moona been networking with tons of chuuba outside hololive from what i can remember. especially on her early days.

>> No.6110013

>>6102308
Why are you lying?

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>>6098074
There is always a percentage of your audience who may never directly interact with you. There is also a portion who may miss something you post. Getting anything about 10% retention rate is incredible desu.

I just checked the top twitch streamer Xqcow. He gets 120k a stream but he has 5.2 million followers. That seems to be a retention rate of about 2.3%. If anyone knows and likes her it might be worth relaying the information to make her feel better.

>> No.6110112

>>6109617
no? i just wanted to shit on her. Are you mad that people don't like her or something?

>> No.6110123

>>6109617
all me

>> No.6111120

>>6102599
it's astounding how much modern faggots hate truth and reality

>> No.6111172

>>6098718
She declined when she shat on the goslings and the weebs aka her audience.

>> No.6111179

>>6107727
Uh bro, do you think i'd be watching low effort content with an anime skin if I wasn't a simp.

>> No.6111299

>>6107727
>They hated her because she told the truth.
I don't know if it's the truth, but regardless people don't watch vtubers for the truth. A lonely man who is watching women pretend to be anime girls is already aware he is a loser, telling him so isn't some groundbreaking reveal. The only one who ever subverted vtubing in an interesting way was Artia with her do you really believe it moment.

>> No.6111323

>>6098074
meanwhile Flare has few subs but makes a ton of money

loyal viewers > dead subs

>> No.6111353

>>6102599
based

>> No.6111498

>>6101721
Kek what's her mmr?

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>>6102599
jokes on you bitch, I'm still with my oshi pewdipie.
>zoomer
he's older than any of you virtual faggots and already exists before this vtube fad shit booming. YOU ARE THE ZOOMER.

>> No.6112065

>>6098427
>>6098746
>>6098882
>>6102157
Nah, it's her job to be entertaining and step up her game when she starts to slip.
Getting the opportunity of being discovered is something that 99.99% of streamers don't get.
She should be glad that she once had an audience.
She just needs to get them back.

>> No.6112086

>>6099891
Not to mention they will see her naked

>> No.6112203

>>6100067
the only right answer

>> No.6112943

>>6107902
>Remember that Coco would rather graduate (die) than become a numberfag.
Well, she fucking delivered I guess.

>> No.6112976

>>6102599
She sure would be happy showing her IRL titties for a bit of sweet money
And jokes on her, I watch vtubers AND ALSO female youtubers, at least the ones that have a personality beyond being a whore
I'll use these images to show a point
>https://files.catbox.moe/nxp6j5.jpg
>https://files.catbox.moe/4pnyyk.jpg
You can call me a schizo for what I'm going to say, but I really believe it
Yes, they both show titties but I prefer the former, not because 2D>3D, I like the vtuber because she isn't trying to sell things like physical assets and then I can infer that there must be more than her body, unlike these pool streamers
Of course, I also have standards for vtubers, I'm not going to watch a vtweeter or someone who is only carried by the sex appeal of her model for example
And if had to defend those who prefer 2D>3D, well, I suppose fantasy is a place where you can idolize and search certain traits you'll hardly find IRL. That's leaving the streamer's personality aside of course
Don't know if I explained myself well, but you get the idea

>> No.6113089

>>6109617
Hana...

>> No.6113211

>>6102599
I'm surprised this still gets a lot of replies every time despite getting posted a lot.

>> No.6113224

>>6112976
The one in the second link is awful and she's hated to hell and back for good reasons, sure, she gained a lot of money but now she's basically on the brink of getting blacklisted by YouTube too and she already got booted of Twitch and FACEBOOK LIVE of all places, what's worse is that, unlike Mori who can atleast rap and would rather go wagie than cry on the internet about not wanting to do so, however that streamer you show has no redeeming qualities or fall back plan other than going full-on porn route, if you wanted to make that comparison, you fucking failed at providing a good parallel to Calli you unironical newfag.

>> No.6113238

>>6098074
my oshi hates numberfagging but a lot of people who follow her are numberfags

>> No.6113279

>>6113224
Show me a good example of then wey

>> No.6113285

>>6112086
Which chubba is most likely to have their corpse defiled by a necrophilic undertaker before cremation/burial?

>> No.6113368

>>6104175
Kiara is a bitch. But she’s with the right company, so she gets away with it. Tell me she would have even 20k if it weren’t for the Holo brand name.

>> No.6113491

>>6113368
So why isn't she doing Robocco, Choco or Mel numbers if she's only being carried by the company?

>> No.6113494

>>6110112
No? No?

>> No.6113634

>>6109617
Yes and I just left there's nothing wrong with that

>> No.6113708

>>6107902
It's not comparing yourself to others but providing good numbers that count. Getting 3M followers on twitter 10 years ago got you air time and promotion deals. Numbers mean something that doesn't mean you have to look down on someone and there will always be people above you. Do the best to improve yourself.

>> No.6113760

>>6113491
Anon, they got rekt by Youtube censoring.
Like come the fuck on, Roboco is practically naked waist down.

>> No.6113934

>>6102599
She's right though

>> No.6113945

>>6111550
but I'm older than that faggot

>> No.6114393

>>6113224
>she already got booted of Twitch and FACEBOOK
A rundown please.

>> No.6114484

>>6102344
same
recently I created a Twitter account after refusing to create one after 7 years due to personal hobbies and vtubers
also created a tiktok account with randomly generated password just in case if I need the account for future use

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>>6098074
>Kureha Kurono
LITERALLY WHO?
>just hurts
JUST ENJOY your 18560 Bitch !

GIT GUD

>> No.6114611

>>6113934
Obviously she's right. That's the whole reason she keeps getting shit for it.

>> No.6114614

>>6098074
Will your oshi become desperate when her numbers drop, or will she just honorably retire?
Or maybe she'll keep streaming just for you without changing?

>> No.6114781

>>6102599
She's wrong, because unlike e-girl titty streamers, vtubers have to rely on being an entertaining and likeable PERSON or they won't survive, which is why her numbers are in the gutter
Also
>y'all
Westaboo bitch go die

>> No.6114795

My oshi will always have a way to get in touch with me if she needs someone. I made sure of that.

>> No.6114829

>>6114781
I thought she is an American but is living in ID?

>> No.6114948

>>6114781
not every e-girl is a titty streamer, but every e-girl benefits from coomers and simps, and so do vtubers.

>> No.6115016

>>6102599
HANAAAAAABUUUUUUUUUUUUU
I LOVE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
MARRY MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.6115074

>>6107902
bs she made stream where she made numberfag predictions when she will hit 1mil subs, she is most numberfaggoty vtuber ever

>> No.6115107

>>6101721
i'd take high iq game such as dota than boring apex which is only interesting when you play or watching top 5% of players which none of vtubers are

>> No.6115152

>>6115074
>she made

>> No.6115161

>>6104584
this is expecting a lot from the hikki users of twitter

>> No.6115201

>>6113760
She's got like a dozen alt outfits now but it was her biggest issue for the longest time

>> No.6115230

>>6099891
haha pepeloni

>> No.6115296

>>6098074
ah i see you play dota. i follow you okay. please don’t worry about stuff like this just try to have fun and when it’s not fun just chill the best you can.

>> No.6115435

>>6098074
I remembered now, she got a slight EOP buff from collaborating with Moona, was it a KPOP MV?

>> No.6115443

>>6114781
try to watch a vtuber without personality

>> No.6115458

>>6115074
That was like a 1 minute segment in an Asacoco not a whole stream.

>> No.6115459

>>6115443
Veibei? She has quite the following here

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>>6098074

>> No.6115502

>>6115459
idk i dont watch her

>> No.6115808

>>6102569
at least you can turn off retweets but its by account so it is still troublesome

>> No.6116751

>>6100067
vtubers aren't real

>> No.6116836

>>6115443
You mean your oshi?

>> No.6117528

>>6115443
Yeah, it's awful, that's what I mean...totally different than run of the mill e-girls that get by with "hehe i'm girl i have booby money plz"
What a brainlet fucking take, I only ever see "checkmate weeb" type niggers saying this kind of crap, I understand the Hana Macchia hate now

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