/numbers/ - Numbers thread

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Previous thread
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>>6097586
nothing new to discuss since the last thread, as we don't have new daily numbers yet. We don't need to keep these threads up if it is just to entertain the falseflagging schizos.

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>>6097586
STOP
MAKING
EARLY
THREADS

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>>6097586
holobros... we lost

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>>6097586
A fair amount of lurking will show the containment breachers when this thread falls off to page 11. The problem is that this thread fails to contain the schizos when it is mostly populated by them. Hardly any fun entertaining fellow falseflaggers.

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FPS_KING_USADA beat tokyo ghoul at his own game. Well done peko.

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>numbers thread
>no one talking about Sakusan Kanon

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Hello numbers people, does anyone know how many views Gura's streams usually have right after they end? I seem to recall 100k, is that about right?

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>>6098415
She's gained like 90k subs in the past 2 days right?

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>>6098768
VOD views at end of live is a meaningless metric. It's almost never accurate. Youtube takes time to process VOD views accurately.

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>>6098846
112k actually

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>>6097586
Pekora absolutely crushed Kuzuha at Apex, his specialty. Its over for the yaoi vampire. Any delusion of him being on the same level as Pekora has been solidly crushed. He is on the Miko/Subaru level, which is still really good, don't get me wrong, but he can't measure up to Pekora.

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I will never understand why Apex is so popular

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>>6099213
autism

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Today's superchats

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>>6098415
Genuinely curious, who is she?

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>>6097757
We can lose for months for all I care. Coco's graduation proved Hololive is a beast not only in the west but also Japan

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>>6100905
Newest vtuber to get the apex boost, went from averaging 200 views to having 16-20k every stream

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>>6098415
People have been talking about her. Stop forcing discussion without numbers... or at least until she starts being tracked somewhere so that we can properly check her data.

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>>6100646
Rushia didn't have to try at this point after coco graduate. Necromancer too strong.

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>>6101233
She's on playboard I'm pretty sure

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>>6098415
>>6101129
there's no way she get those views just like that,maybe she is known streamer.

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>>6101604
She was in some apex vtuber tournament and did really well, that's where most of her viewers came from

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>>6101604
She got signal boosted by a couple of apex players after playing in a tournament with them.

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>>6100646
Number 2 baby
>>6100905
Discovered by some big names in the Apex community. Popular kirinuki (link below) exposed her to more of Vtuber audience. Entertaining, very high energy. People are excited because they think she can get big. Established streamers dropping in to her streams (Matsuri was in the zatsudan chat).

https://youtu.be/m-3i-3p1YkM

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>>6101129
>>6101759

Huh, not into Apex, but good on her

Also that jump in views is outstanding. From 20-30k views to 300k+ in the past 2 days. I hope she doesn't waste this massive opportunity

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Uh why is Kuzuha being beaten in numbers by a basic white girl who can’t sing for shit?

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>>6103361
because USA NUMBER ONE BABY

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>>6103361
because ame has SOUL

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>>6097586
>Most subscribed vtuber
>Can't even reach top 10 in live viewers.
Pathetic

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>>6098891
>meaningless
How do we know its not accurate? Can it at least be used as a lower-bound on the true number of VOD views at the end of the stream?

If it is meaningless, then what measure can I use to get an idea of how many people watched the stream live?

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>>6097586
>41k for a zatsudan
Has Marine passed Pekora as the most powerful sankisei?

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>>6103680
It's not that it's meaningless, but that it's erratic because YouTube AI is volatile about views. It could be due to people going in and out of streams or simply the video being flagged by the algorithm for spam views. It's arguably better to let the video sit for a while for numbers to settle to get a realistic metric.

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>>6104233
If it might be too low due to AI's idea of "spam views," can it at least be used as a lower-bound on the true number of VOD views at the end of the stream? For the purpose of a rough estimation.

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>>6101759
She has other youtube channel for her cover songs too
https://youtube.com/c/SAKUSAN

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>>6104705
You would have to get heavily into statistical analysis to first determine the margin for error for the videos, but yes, it can be useful if you want to use it as your starting point for numbers.

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>>6104233
Also IIRC sometimes the total views right after the livestream just froze for some good hours then suddenly jumped up? So yeah it's probably too inconsistent to rely on to make a metric out of it.

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did sakusan delete her zatsudan? what was the peak number?

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Moona surpassed the third niji with most subs. Only Mito and Kuzuha remain

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>>6106161
on her tweet she said the zatsudan wont have archive(already deleted said tweet)

As for the peak number: https://twitter.com/Ts0___/status/1411719899244728323
12k peak

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>>6104980
Not bad for processed audio.
Does she do live singing?
Is she good at it?

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>>6107082
oh, shes a numberfag as well? subscribed.

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>>6107124
Shes really good. vodka & cr ojiji was really impressed when she sing during collab.
She sometimes spontaneously sing during stream. not sure about full singing stream tho, never saw it.

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>>6103894
It's the first livestream frame after the 3rd gen concert that's held to celebrate her getting 1 mil subs. Zatsudan stream has always been her strongest stream but that buff made it higher. Kinda doubt it will ever reach around that number again in the next zatsudan stream.

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>>6107592
Marine was pulling similar numbers at the start of the year. She might be back in form now.

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>>6101129
Maybe she'll beat Kuzuha's apex streams in the near future

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>>6103361
I missed the karaoke, what's Ame's peaked viewers in that stream?

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>>6105019
>>6105742
Wait so then if I do want to use it, does anyone have an idea of what that number is, or how I can go about calculating it?

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>>6098846
Wtf. Do nips hate Nijisanji? Why can't Niji gain subs anymore. It makes no sense. It's almost like they use bots to hide their heavy decline. When this random apex streamer can get 100k subs in days why can't Nijisanji?

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>kuzuha kuzuha kuzuha
Why is he the only one ever talked about in here for Niji?

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>>6112349
Because this is a numbers thread and he is the only Niji that puts up worthy numbers that can compete with Hololive.

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>>6112298
JP side still doesn't have much of a like/comment/subscribe culture drilled heavily into the brains of EOPs over the past two decade.

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>>6111825
20k

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>>6112349
Only other person in 2434 who can sneak into this chart with any reliability would be Inui Toko, if Toko sings.

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>>6106624
Hahahaha. Moona has surpassed niji's mascot, Mito. And anons here were saying that Mito would reach a million subs this year. Sorry to say but nijifemales have hit a roadblock. Can't wait for the day homostars overtake every nijifemale. That mogging would taste delicious.

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>>6112373
That argument has been disproven. If this Jap Apex streamer gets massive subs then Niji should too.

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>>6112388
Kanae gets into the chart more often than her. alot more often, actually. I actually can't recall when was the last time Toko got in there

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>>6112519
Really wished Toko would get into Hololive. She can sing and do zatsudan, but gaming streams? She doesn't to have anyone in particular to play with while Suisei can play with Miko, Flare and Polka.

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>>6112408
An ID member will have more subs than Niji's top tier. Cover should just release Gen6 & EN2 back to back. I'm starving here.

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>>6112642
I'm starving of content during these dead hours. I can't watch Choco playing DBD all day.

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>>6112349
We sometimes talk about Mito too

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>>6111881
Uhh I'd say just don't do it, too inconsistent to base whatever you're planning on using it for.

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>>6112459
How has it been disproven?
All the Nijis with 'big' eop audience had way more subs than regular live viewers and consistently higher % of likes per watcher.

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>>6112349
Only as far as numbers we talk about Kuzuha. Otherwise we mostly discuss more varied streamers, like Chai-chai, Maimoto, Gwelu or the ID boys.

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>>6112695
Check out Uto's unarchived karaoke and talk if you'd like then.

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>>6112591
This is the literally the most ignorant thing I've heard today and I've been on /vt/ this whole time

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>>6112459
Wait 1 month and if she still has those numbers, I will kneel.

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Kuzuha is putting in more hours to beat Pekora this month.

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>>6112591
>She is paired with Lize Helesta and Ange Katrina who formed Sanbaka.
>Toko has several unit with other Vlivers. She forms AnDeToko with Ange Katrina and Debidebi Debiru and AHO with Otogibara Era and Saegusa Akina. She also forms Oniberos with Nakiri Ayame of Hololive.
>Toko is an avid Ensemble Stars fan and is a part of VEnStars Club, a cross-agency Ensemble Stars fanclub, together with Hoshimachi Suisei of Hololive and Minamori Hero of Entum.
LMFAO Toko is arguably in more Niji groups than Suisei is in holo groups. She just doesn't do game streams.

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>>6112591
she recently was with ange playing a kuso horror game though

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>>6112388
https://vnuma.net/en/streamers/recent/9e3b4f5b31814979b998ba3166fa4522/

Toko doesn't actually get numbers good enough to consistently be in the top 25, even when she does sing. The only reliable Nijis for the top 25 except for Kuzuha are Kenmochi, Mito, Kanae, and sometimes Fuwa.

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>>6112591
suisei shouldve gone for nijisanji
woulve had a major debut and irl sololive by now

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I've not hung out in /numbers/ before but it's kind of fun because of how simultaneously self-assured and retarded everyone is

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>>6114189
but she likes number

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>>6114189
Maybe, but she would've never achieved her goal in her banner of getting 1 mil subs as a Niji.
Having multiple original songs with millions of views is also quite nice when most Nijis struggle to get their originals to 1 mil views.

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>>6112388
Mito and Ago

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>>6112349
because hes the only one that can pull massive numbers daily. Others would be Mito, Toya, Kanae, Lize.

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>>6113979
Like I said, I wished she'd do more game streams, but she doesn't have that big of a clique or incentive to play with. She might interact better with Hololive girls especially in Minecraft with Suisei and the others.

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>>6114771
Why does she have to be a Holo to interact with Holos? Are you perhaps touched in the head?

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>>6114771
Or, it's more likely she has no interest in doing regular gaming streams and doesn't feel like forcing herself. There is literally nothing stopping her and Suisei from doing game collabs all the time. It not happening is a big sign that she doesn't want to play games.
>She might interact better with Hololive girls especially in Minecraft with Suisei and the others.
"Toko has a lot of friends in Niji that she occasionally plays games for almost 2 years now, but she should play games with girls she has never talked to before instead."
Are you listening to yourself? I'm a Holofan who doesn't watch Niji much, but this is peak holocentric mindset that ruins this fandom.

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>>6114189
Going to Manjisanji and die there as a low-profiles chuuba under them?

Hell no....You forgot what girls popularity in Nijisanji currently is?

Those nijifags who harassed Lulu might as well want to make Nijisanji being a pure-male streaming company by kicking out all female chuuba.

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>>6115143
yooo damn right brooo

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>>6114189
If Suisei wanted a dead career she wojld get that in Niji. Any female would be better off in Hololive. Nijisanji is a dead end of failure with no hope of success if you don't have a penis.

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>>6115195
But Mito is pretty big, anon

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>>6115235
She used to be, not anymore

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>>6114943
>>6115061
For fuck sake, the context in the beginning was gaming streams. She's my favourite niji liver, but I WISHED she was in Hololive instead so that I could see more of her gaming streams with others. A timeline where she'd be having fun playing a lot of games with Suisei, Polka, Flare, Miko or other girls. There's really nothing wrong with her and other nijis. Heck, she doesn't collab with Males that often. I just hate seeing her being stuck playing alone in Minecraft.

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>>6112642
Would it be number suicide if Cover released Gen6 and EN2 in the same week? Holy shit imagine the hype though.

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>>6115355
She has the opportunity to collab with people in Minecraft, it has nothing to do with what agency she's in. Recent Minecraft boom has revived some units while generating new collab partners in Nijisanji. Maybe she just doesn't feel like it.

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>>6097586
This is a hololive without Coco. Completely baseless. With Coco gone. Watching hololive is like eating curry rice without using any plates. Literal starving dogs eating off the floor. No different from how nijiniggers live.

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>>6115419
Yeah, she has a lot of opportunities for collabs. But a lot of those are missed or she doesn't feel like it. It's the same for other holo members who are used to play alone in the beginning until there's someone that got them addicted on playing Minecraft together.

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>>6115367
Jesus christ, how is this even a question. This is plain stupidity

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>>6115627
Fuck off nigger. That many debuts back to back would literally break the internet.

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>Fubuki getting glasses sponsorship
Gotta give it to the fox, she's smart as fuck. Glasses have a very good margin on them, well played in the revenue number game, beats shirts and trinkets by a huge margin

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>>6115367
>if Cover released Gen6 and EN2 in the same week
That would be dumb as fuck, whoever would get released second would absolutely KILL the hype for the first ones.
Cover is not this dumb, that's why they made that "one original song a week" release from late 2020 to early 2021 with a live show or two in between

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Rihanna EN Gen2 confirmed by me. Screenshot this. I'm never wrong.

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>>6115771
Her and Mio so people who want black glasses rims aren't left out

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>>6115432
none of you even watched coco outside of reddit review
she's real fucking boring

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>>6116196
Only Zhangs think this.

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>>6116306
Zhangs are quite based for making holowhores graduate

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>>6115799
>underestimating how dumb Cover can be
They're literally killing their own brand right now with seiso idolcrap and drove out their top earner

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>>6116196
Jesus. This anon reeks of newfag. Don't forget to do your Coco reps anonchama. And also Lurk. More. Tourist nigga.

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>>6116342
Zhangs have found a new source of determination. With the love of their life Coco now gone. They've now set their sights on their actual goal. Which is to completely dismantle cover for good. Your oshi is next anon-kun.

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>200 threads in the catalog
>anon comes with the most basic bitch troll attempt in the thread people pay more attention to the numbers than to the talent itself
NGMI

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>>6116342
How new.

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>>6115799

Pretty sure gen 5 then EN release very shortly after was actually what cover intended on doing originally but aloe yab forced them to delay it until that blew over. Can't give you a source on it though.

Presumably the idea would've been to raise extra hype via the announcement of Gen5 on the western side, then almost immediately release EN to ride the wave along further, and since gen5 itself didn't really have a lot of EOP pandering type chuubas outside of maybe botan, the resultant cannabailism of viewers probably wouldn't have been as bad and EN may have even had subs share back to 5th gen.

At the same time, what ended up happening worked out well enough so maybe they'll avoid trying to release both at the same time or in short succession in the future anyway.

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why are you discussing content in a numbers thread

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>>6116346
>their top earner
You don't even know who their top earner is on their company, and you're only assuming it was Coco because she got big super chat numbers. We literally don't know how much revenue they generate from memberships, ads, sponsorships and merchandise. That much unknown data should give you pause before making categorical statements like who is their top earner.

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>>6116445
subscribe-only mode say "hi"

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>>6116756
Zhangchama you sound retarded. Coco IS the top earner. Yagoo agrees. And no amount of ignorance from You will deter from the facts.

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>>6116873
>Zhangchama
I called your bluff and asked you to back up your numbers. Where are they?

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>>6116671
No gen5 was supposed to release way earlier but got delayed because of covid

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>>6116873
This is a numbers thread. Back your shit with numbers. Other members could earn as much as her without superchats.

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>>6116910
Anon. We both know Tatsunoko won't supply you with any numbers. They will try to dodge your very based question with their foot fetish posts and constant Zhang labeling. Hololive fans have to face reality and accept the fact that Coco has the best feet in vtubing. No one can compete. Disagreeing with this statement makes (You) Zhang. Shut up Zhang.

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>>6116873
Anon, how about instead of name-calling you just humor us and present the numbers that anon requested? You are in the numbers thread, and we do have data on Coco's superchat earnings, and it is without doubt she is the 'top superchat earner' for Cover, that one is indisputable. You literally lose nothing by doing it, in fact it strengthen your argument that Coco 'IS indeed the top earner' for Cover since you seemed to be pretty confident with the numbers you have. Provided you actually have the numbers anyway.

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>>6117029
>This is a numbers thread. Back your shit with numbers.
Does the superchat rankings not exist? Is Coco not No.1?

>Other members could earn as much as her without superchats.
Where are the numbers hypocrite-chama?

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>>6117100
This is fucking dumb. There is literally no point in providing numbers. Everyone here knows that Coco is indeed the top earner. The problem though is speculative niggers such as yourself of course. Who come to these threads using other revenue streams that have no basis whatsoever. No better than nijifags "mah merch" argument. Retarded as fuck.

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>>6117075
>foot fetish
No opinion on that and I haven't even seen Coco's feet so I will have to take your word for it, anon. But that is all just opinion and taste, not numbers.

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>>6116756
Coco was top 2 as far as memberships and top 1 for SCs. Even she hasn't done memberships, she is stilk included in tie-in merch deals and she is one of the few that do release merch on the regular. Her merch that she initiates isn't cut in thirds unlike her superchat and we know they get to earn more in that because they do spend their own money for those things. I would not be surprised if the cut is like 70/30 or 80/20 in favor of the talent.

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>>6117312
*even if she hasn't done any recent sponsorships

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>>6117075
> I wanna use my teeth to scrape off all the calluses under Coco's feet. Slurp on her very soft toes. And deepthroat her entire foot. I'm who I am today because of this bitch. A feet enjoyer, No no no, a feet Chad.

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>>6117265
Uhh see here anon, the problem is how you construct your sentence. If only you said either 'Coco is their top superchat earner' or 'Coco is one of their top earner' then I don't think many people will bat an eye. The numbers are there, and it is indeed indisputable. But instead you insisted that 'Coco IS the top earner', accentuating that Coco is the one earning 'THE most' for Cover. We just simply asked you for the numbers to back your claim since you somehow has an idea how sponsorships, merchs, ads et cetera contribute into the revenue of Cover, and despite all that Coco is still 'THE' top earner with her superchat alone, that's it.

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>>6116717
yeah... that's what the number thread has become after Coco breaking all numbers records...

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>>6115692
Faggot, fuck off. that'd just be oversaturating the market. They should never EVER introduce 2 different branches at the same time. And lastly, JP6 SHOULDN'T COME UNTIL EN2 AND ID3.

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>>6116717
No one cares about numbers anymore. Coco has completely dismantled these threads.

This is a Numbers thread right? No. More like Coco's unbeatable numbers ft. Other inferior vtubers.

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Well, to help refocusing the thread: here is the chart of the average live viewers for the whole Hololive Branch (JP+EN+ID) until nip midnight.

Coco graduation would literally be OFF THE CHARTS if I properly made the Y chart 0-30000 instead of 0-60000 but this once I'll allow it to spill to show how HUGE the numbers for that day were in comparison.

Taking request, anyone want any particular chart done? You can see your oshi performance in the full glory of an Excel 97 chart.
I managed to collate the data from HoloTracker so now I not only have all live viewer data from July 2020 forward but also the number of subscribers of any talent for any day.

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>>6097586
How come Niji is the one that took damage from Coco retiring instead of Hololive? Their numbers went down the drain after that for some reason. Maimoto's tournament only getting 40k instead of the usual 100k+, Kuzuha losing to Pekora playing Apex.

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>>6117717
Thanks anon, can I see if Flare is inclining?

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>>6117404
>Feetchad

Anon-kun don't forget that we are also the greatest NumberChads on this board. After Coco showcased how very large her Cocock is. Leaving with some of the biggest numbers in the industry. The numberfags were scared shitless. Crawling away into the holes from which they whence.

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>>6117722
why are you comparing baseball from the peak of vtubing watching to pachinko during current times
why does this thread constantly forget kuzuha's normal numbers are 13k-22k

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>>6117722
Neither company took any damage from Coco's graduation. Wtf are you smoking dude, Ib's 3D debut just got 117k 2 days ago. Pekora mogs Kuzuha almost every day so her beating him playing Apex is normal.

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I saw Niji playing pachinko on stream since 2 days ago and thought shit can't get lower. Now it feels surreal to see Aqua and actual horse betting.

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>>6117717
>live viewer data from July 2020
ill help you with that. its vnuma source but still numbers.

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>>6118076
It's named after her.

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>>6118088
OK it got more bizarre.

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>>6117809
>can I see if Flare is inclining
Flare bounces up and down along with the rest of the girls and she's accompanying the current Holo incline very well. Her best period this year was mid Jan to mid Feb.

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>>6118154
Nah. Coco got one too. Legal gambling ain't frowned upon. People just use these to lure fresh money in.

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>>6118083
They have it per stream?

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>>6118248
Vnuma does but rounded numbers now.

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>>6118076
>surreal to see Aqua and actual horse betting.
>>6118154
>OK it got more bizarre.
Horse racing bets are most definitely not frowned upon in Japan, don't the girls even do streams with it on New Years or something?

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>>6118314
>Vnuma does but rounded numbers now.
Nah, the recent numbers I can get from Holostats, even better quality. But if VNuma has it from June 2020 and older I would like to get them

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>>6118225
Is the hololive average top heavy or is Flare below average? Is it like the gura situation on HoloEN numbers where she distorts the average because of her high numbers?

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Weekly superchats

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>>6118334
Horse racing bets are basically cultural in Japan. It's why a game like Uma was made.

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>>6117717
requesting watched time live (avg live viewers * stream duration) trend line with datapoints of stream duration on one side of the Y axis and avg live viewers plotted as its plotted radius/size.

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>>6118433
Only 37 other vtubers have earned in their entire careers as much as Coco did in not even a full week

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>>6118630
Am I dumb or this didn't make sense?

>>6118225
>>6118396
Can you actually just give the avg avg live viewers YOY for each holo. I want to calculate the gini coefficient as a math puzzle over the week.

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>>6117702
I have a better title. How about.
>Coco and friends

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>>6118433

Coco's revenue in June
>$450K+

Coco's revenue in July
>$300K

Even in death. Coco's July numbers won't be surpassed.

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>>6118396
>Is the hololive average top heavy or is Flare below average?
Flare is below average. I assume any of the Holos that do long super chat reading will have a below average "live viewers average" because of that.

Here are the numbers for Live Viewers average, Jan 2021 to Jun 2021

>24623 avg, 205 streams :: Usada Pekora
>20488 avg, 138 streams :: Houshou Marine
>19872 avg, 111 streams :: Gawr Gura
>17801 avg, 087 streams :: Minato Aqua
>12995 avg, 126 streams :: Inugami Korone
>12806 avg, 184 streams :: Sakura Miko
>12370 avg, 035 streams :: Nakiri Ayame
>12204 avg, 226 streams :: Kiryu Coco
>12155 avg, 079 streams :: Akai Haato
>11906 avg, 155 streams :: Oozora Subaru
>11695 avg, 032 streams :: Murasaki Shion
>11532 avg, 142 streams :: Hoshimachi Suisei
>10425 avg, 126 streams :: Ninomae Inanis
>10092 avg, 130 streams :: Uruha Rushia
>10079 avg, 166 streams :: Shishiro Botan
>09768 avg, 123 streams :: Ookami Mio
>09749 avg, 182 streams :: Amane Kanata
>09635 avg, 142 streams :: Nekomata Okayu
>09301 avg, 146 streams :: Mori Calliope
>08415 avg, 6030 streams :: ************* Hololive avg *************
>08134 avg, 195 streams :: Tsunomaki Watame
>08067 avg, 136 streams :: Momosuzu Nene
>07930 avg, 146 streams :: Shirogane Noel
>07849 avg, 161 streams :: Watson Amelia
>07708 avg, 183 streams :: Yukihana Lamy
>07476 avg, 250 streams :: Shirakami Fubuki
>07042 avg, 159 streams :: Takanashi Kiara
>06655 avg, 156 streams :: Omaru Polka
>06550 avg, 190 streams :: Shiranui Flare
>05096 avg, 146 streams :: Himemori Luna
>05085 avg, 157 streams :: Tokoyami Towa
>03912 avg, 098 streams :: Yuzuki Choco
>03814 avg, 184 streams :: Natsuiro Matsuri
>03784 avg, 050 streams :: AZKi
>03473 avg, 190 streams :: Roboco-san
>03441 avg, 061 streams :: Yozora Mel
>03301 avg, 117 streams :: Tokino Sora
>03123 avg, 126 streams :: Moona Hoshinova
>02607 avg, 109 streams :: Aki Rosenthal
>02228 avg, 159 streams :: Kureiji Ollie
>01763 avg, 190 streams :: Pavolia Reine
>01184 avg, 110 streams :: Airani Iofifteen
>01090 avg, 091 streams :: Ayunda Risu
>01068 avg, 131 streams :: Anya Melfissa

[Anonymous No.]

>>6118630
>avg live viewers plotted as its plotted radius/size.
Yeah, too much work on the plotting side for this to be worth. Everything else I'm doing takes a minute or two, this would take time to figure out how to plot

[Anonymous No.]

>>6118861
Thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6118855
Bruh. That's like 700k in just under a month. Is that a record?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6119179
Absolutely, even if she only streamed her graduation live, 300k would have been the all time high for a month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6118225
>Her best period this year was mid Jan to mid Feb.
That's weird, since Jan-Feb was a big decline for Hololive outside of those with 3D debuts.
Guess she and Watame were the only ones still consistently streaming Minecraft in that period, which helped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6119516
>Her best period THIS YEAR was mid Jan to mid Feb.
Everyone's declining ever since lockdowns start to ease up Q2 of 2021.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6118225
>>6119713
Ah yes the "lockdown decline rrats".
Anon everyone is on an incline since Q2, specifically mid April.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6103361
USA always wins baby!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6119713
>Everyone's declining ever since lockdowns start to ease up Q2 of 2021.
That seems to be the exact opposite of what the data shows (See the chart at >>6117717).

Lowest point of the year was in middle of March, the global average is rising ever since, with the 7 days moving average of early June reaching the highest point since Youtube changed the live viewers algo in Dec 2020.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6119837
I'm surprised no cumbud has the balls to post these under Kizuna's tweets. I'm massively disappointed cumbuckets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6119907
Hey graph anon, vnuma has this graph where it displays viewership per hour.
https://vnuma.net/en/hourly-summary/
You might be interested to check if you can see market share percentage from this.
I don't know shit about APIs so i don't know if you can pull raw numbers since the data is presented through highcharts.com.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6116756
Vod ads generates small to nothing in their earnings

[Anonymous No.]

>>6115355
Inui's content being 75% talking with chat isn't because she doesn't have people to play minecraft with you absolute eop retard. Please never talk about Inui ever again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6120197
>Vod ads generates small to nothing in their earnings
dunno man, the report Hal gave on his earning showed that ad revenue was pretty fucking huge for him

[Anonymous No.]

>>6115245
she still is, unless you live in a EOP hololive bubble like most fags in here do

[Anonymous No.]

>>6120158
Thanks, I’ll take a look to see if I can fetch their raw numbers like I can now with Holostats and Holotracker.
I’ll likely to Playboard first for the sweet superchat numbers and then try to find one for evolution of VOD views. That would complete the whole Holo dataset

[Anonymous No.]

>>6117569
Did they start taking applications for ID3?

[Anonymous No.]

>Pekora using twitch for the first time
Could be huge for her numberfaggotry
>it’s a “Mask” watch along
NGMI

[Anonymous No.]

>>6120425
I'd like to see them do a legit stream on Twitch just as a test run, something that would generate interest. I don't even like Twitch but out of sheer morbid curiosity I'd like to see Pekora stream Minecraft or something on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6120474
>but out of sheer morbid curiosity I'd like to see Pekora stream Minecraft or something on it.
Didn’t Miko stream micra once there when YT was down and got massive numbers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6120425
>filters plebs with shit taste on her first stream
now i have to watch her

[Anonymous No.]

>>6120425
I have a feeling she will get big numbers Chat is going so fast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6120197
pink is ads revenue

[Anonymous No.]

20k 10 minutes in for a watchalong (the ultimate debuff) on a platform none of her fans know her on is pretty insane

[Anonymous No.]

>>6120507
If I recall she got 16k

[Anonymous No.]

>>6120682
What is migo's record? This might be a one time thing though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6120682
part of it is first time buff, I want to see what she gets in a month or 2 for the watchalongs.

[Anonymous No.]

Shits weird

[Anonymous No.]

>>6120682
Jesas... On a fucking watchalong? Of the mask? That's bigger than most of nyanners streams. And they're suppose to be the top vtubers on twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6115771
>Glasses have a very good margin on them

scamming thieves you mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>6120688
For Twitch that's really high, Nyanners would kill to get 16k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6120716
https://twitchtracker.com/sakuramiko_hololive/statistics
17k when Youtube was down and she streamed Minecraft there, most for a watchalong seems to be 5k

[Anonymous No.]

Pekora currently the 4th most watched live stream on twitch at the moment.

[Anonymous No.]

I think Pekora might have just beaten the live viewers record for a vtuber in twitch. On a fucking Mask watchalong..

[Anonymous No.]

>>6120891
Hololive should just man up and conquer Twitch too. Vshojo is getting too comfortable on that site.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6120984
I know Nyanners got 20k-ish for the Kiara collab, not sure she's ever topped that.

[Anonymous No.]

>over 20k for a fucking watchalong
so YT really hides a lot of her viewers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6121049
Further proof if it was needed that vshojo's numbers are complete horseshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>6119968
Maybe because chumbuds don't actually go out of their way to harass other VTubers and that flaggers will flag even if it's falseflag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6121049
or twitch numbers are garbage and can't be compared properly to YT numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>6121016
Killing vfags for good? Hell yeah!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6121049
yea, we've known it for a while

[Anonymous No.]

>>6120984
First stream too I wonder if niggers going to get mad about having someone “new” war criminal shitting all over everyone’s view counts

[Anonymous No.]

>>6121165
Either Youtube hides legitimate viewers or Twitch has a bunch of bots watching, or most likely a combination of the two

[Anonymous No.]

Pekora's numbers keeps falling down, predict how low its gonna be. I say 10k

[Anonymous No.]

>>6121256

after a month i'd say 8k or so for watchalongs.

[Anonymous No.]

You guys are reading too much into this. I don't think there's anything inaccurate about twitch or youtube numbers there. She got more viewers at the beginning because people were checking it out due to the novelty. And twitch is better for watchalongs than youtube since you can actually watch the movie there with the person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6121049
What would a pekora Minecraft stream get?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6106624
lmao holocust even dead subbing ID too.
what a fucking joke EOP is

[Anonymous No.]

>>6121314
>I don't think

[Anonymous No.]

>>6120370
I don't think they did, but it should come out soon after EN debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6121376
Comparing to other Minecraft streamers, robably 140k+.

[Anonymous No.]

Only loyal fans can keep up with watchalong. Miko have 4k on Twitch watchalong. She try to not involve too much on Twitch. Not sure about Pekora. The rabbit seem like want to dominate on everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6097586
autism thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>6120313
>>6120590
Those are from his highlight clips and he mentioned that stream vod numbers is just a popularity indicator

[Anonymous No.]

>>6118861
>Jan 2021 to Jun 2021
>035 streams :: Nakiri Ayame
>032 streams :: Murasaki Shion
sugoi!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6121620
not her problem she's so popular she doesnt even need to stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>6121620
>>6121749
>not her problem she's so popular she doesnt even need to stream
Pretty much thisl.Work smart, not hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>6121256
13k right now and seems like the drop stoped for now. it even rose a little when i checked

[Anonymous No.]

>>6121620
Man, looking those numbers make me shriveled flaccid... but the I realize how high her efficiency ratio is and I become adamantium.

[Anonymous No.]

who's ready to see Kiara bitching about the low numbers she'll get from that new game she is the ambassador of?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6118861
Here are the same numbers, for the second quarter (Apr 2021 to Jun 2021)

>24845 avg, 109 streams :: Usada Pekora
>20204 avg, 58 streams :: Gawr Gura
>19751 avg, 64 streams :: Houshou Marine
>18107 avg, 25 streams :: Minato Aqua
>15173 avg, 115 streams :: Kiryu Coco
>14555 avg, 12 streams :: Nakiri Ayame
>13547 avg, 77 streams :: Oozora Subaru
>13085 avg, 63 streams :: Hoshimachi Suisei
>13062 avg, 58 streams :: Inugami Korone
>12993 avg, 89 streams :: Sakura Miko
>12743 avg, 14 streams :: Murasaki Shion
>10827 avg, 69 streams :: Uruha Rushia
>10765 avg, 93 streams :: Amane Kanata
>10744 avg, 61 streams :: Ookami Mio
>10674 avg, 61 streams :: Ninomae Inanis
>10485 avg, 70 streams :: Mori Calliope
>10191 avg, 30 streams :: Akai Haato
>09876 avg, 76 streams :: Shirogane Noel
>09640 avg, 88 streams :: Shishiro Botan
>09253 avg, 97 streams :: Tsunomaki Watame
>08913 avg, 69 streams :: Nekomata Okayu
>08717 avg, 2974 streams :: ************* Hololive avg *************
>08131 avg, 78 streams :: Watson Amelia
>07908 avg, 71 streams :: Momosuzu Nene
>07807 avg, 121 streams :: Shirakami Fubuki
>07113 avg, 75 streams :: Takanashi Kiara
>06965 avg, 97 streams :: Yukihana Lamy
>06588 avg, 100 streams :: Shiranui Flare
>05427 avg, 70 streams :: Himemori Luna
>05341 avg, 78 streams :: Tokoyami Towa
>05257 avg, 83 streams :: Omaru Polka
>04328 avg, 95 streams :: Natsuiro Matsuri
>04136 avg, 102 streams :: Roboco-san
>04035 avg, 50 streams :: Yuzuki Choco
>03699 avg, 24 streams :: AZKi
>03318 avg, 65 streams :: Tokino Sora
>03241 avg, 62 streams :: Moona Hoshinova
>03130 avg, 34 streams :: Yozora Mel
>02335 avg, 55 streams :: Aki Rosenthal
>02054 avg, 67 streams :: Kureiji Ollie
>01707 avg, 94 streams :: Pavolia Reine
>01088 avg, 43 streams :: Ayunda Risu
>00934 avg, 62 streams :: Anya Melfissa
>00894 avg, 50 streams :: Airani Iofifteen

ID girls really done goof'd by even entertaining in listening to their locals to "SPEAK MOAR BAHASA". It seems to have truly sank their battleship

[Anonymous No.]

>>6122180
>ID girls really done goof'd by even entertaining in listening to their locals to "SPEAK MOAR BAHASA". It seems to have truly sank their battleship
Truly crab bucket mentality made manifest

[Anonymous No.]

>>6122180
>Nene,Lamy and Flare
girls tanking their views average to get that cold hard cash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6122488
It's common to have 2 sections for streams. 1 for game or show proper and the other is SCs. These girls sometimes gets so many SCs that they have to dedicate another stream. If they don't read your SC one the gaming segment because they are tired, they'll read it on a separate stream. This is the reason why collabs gets little to no SCs. Fans know their SCs won't be read in the end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6122615
i know anon, just commenting on how fucking well it works out to raise SCs.
just check playboards total and you see Flare in the top 10 and Lamy in the top 12. top fucking 12 with less than 1 years time to rise to it. Nene started reading scs around october/december and that catapulted her to 37. she used to be at the same level as Polka who is now at 124

[Anonymous No.]

>>6122180
>Jan-Jun
>03473 avg, 190 streams :: Roboco-san
>April-Jun
>04136 avg, 102 streams :: Roboco-san
Roboco is inclining just by hustling huh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6122748
a good hustle can straight up create miracles. hell its how Roberu became the bigest of the stars. to bad he started slacking since new year

[Anonymous No.]

>>6122331
The two ID 1 stragglers never had good numbers and probably never will, for as much as they talked about the language thing it seems to have made no difference. ID2 is under no language mandate and don't ever solo stream in ID.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6118861
>>6122180
>>6122331
>>6122488
>>6122748
Here is the Q1/Q2 comparison plus the incline / recline.
IMPORTANT: Notice that special dates and events could be responsible for most of the variation or even small things like
>getting more SuperChat and reading more of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>6123212
you can argue about few streams for that ayame rise, but that shuba growth, damn

[Anonymous No.]

>>6123427
Yeah. Noel tho, she took FULL advantage of the "EOP" wave, boarded Reddit with her first post on March 9, 2021 and posts there on occasion, while being one of the "studying english" duolingo Holochicks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6123619
Newfag here I was actually worried when she doesn't get 10k but holy shit I didn't know she was only 5k before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6123212
Why are Polka and Lamy reclining so hard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6122180
Damn, Hololive's lineup is stacked. No one would dare to say something like 'fired anyone who's below 10k average viewers' because that would sound retarded as fuck, while most people believe that Niji would be better off firing everyone who's below 10k average.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6123212
retard here, is this good news or bad news?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6123740
>Why are Polka and Lamy reclining so hard?
With more time I'll categorize the streams by type (gaming, zatsudan, SC reading, etc) and subtype (Minecraft, APEX, etc) so it is possible to derive any conclusion.
Other than that only people with them as their oshi can answer that.
I can always speculated based on known factors tho
>they're reading more superchat

[Anonymous No.]

>>6123822
>retard here, is this good news or bad news?
Hololive as a whole is inclining. See >>6117717 for a better view.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6123212
>Noel , Coco and RBC
JESAS that increase

[Anonymous No.]

>>6123832
She's not my oshi but I don't think Polka announces her stream, she is more focus on her weekly shows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6123832
Polka did do a few SC reading streams lately
there is also the whole thing where she got adopted by Flare in MC and while MC is a buff game if both of them stream most people will watch Flare

[Anonymous No.]

>Mel and Aki reclining
They get mogged when they stream at primetime.
They should grow their numbers first outside of streaming hours taking advantage of dead hours and hololive branding.
Lunchtime JST streams of theirs get like 4-7k much higher than 1-3k primetime stream.

[Anonymous No.]

https://panora.tokyo/archives/29069
Weekly VOD numbers are here. Graduations sure are powerful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6123959
Coco only increased because of the graduation. Before that she was under 10k average. See >>6118083.

[Anonymous No.]

GURA JUST DOESN'T STOP

[Anonymous No.]

Kiseki Knot is 8th on Oricon weekly digital downloads with 7,933 units sold. On the other hand 4,369 sales was enough for Bump of Chicken to reach 20th spot this week. This means Bluerose (5th on the daily chart), Comet (6th), and Kimi Dake no Melody (6th) all sold less than that. On Billboard's weekly digital downloads Bluerose is 94th with the rest of the chuuba songs failing to make an appearance. I find this a bit weird, because Comet was paired with Bluerose as a double single and it's hard to see how Suisei's first song finally getting a commercial release would sell significantly less than the new one. Unfortunately Billboard doesn't report sale numbers.

Oricon's numbers appear to be more accurate since their data includes music DOT jp and Oricon's own store. Still, it's quite weird if Bluerose and Kiseki Knot are seemingly selling so differently just because of the difference of two additional sites reporting their numbers. Not really sure if there is some weird weighting going on on the charts. I'd be interested in hearing if anyone has any ideas about what's going on in here.

Kiseki Knot ought to net some radio play out of it's position on Oricon. This happened with Ghost which was on Oricon's weekly digital downloads chart 11th as well as 5th on Billboard's weekly digital downloads the week of it's release. It also spent three weeks lingering on Billboard charting 19th and 97th on the following weeks. On it's release week it also charted 100th on the presumably far more important Japan Hot 100 chart. This makes me wonder if Suisei didn't have some kind of plan with her release schedule. With Bluerose on 25th of June, another orison on July 8th with 03:12 on July 14th seems like they hoped to repeat Ghost's success by keeping her name on the charts culminating with the release of Taku Inoue's single which is likely to bring attention to her. If this is the case then it failed, although on the 8th Tenkyuu is almost certainly going to be the "b-side" of the next double single and it has 5m more views than Comet, so that release might be able to build some more hype.

For total sales an interesting thing is the webstore Ototoy which is not included on either Oricon or Playboard. Chuubas absolutely dominate it's charts and, as far as I'm aware, it's the only place where you can get chuuba songs as FLACs and ALACs as well as Hi-res. Considering that the Japanese are still more prone to buy physical copies, downloadable lossless formats might be more appealing to them, but this is pure speculation on my part and more likely than not reaching. However, there is also the impact of Holocaust which could also encourage gachikois to buy lossless from there for archival purposes. The store has to sell something to stay operational, but I'm not too sure how much given that Next Color Planet is a year later 41st on the monthly list, but there's a chance that those first couple of days after release do indeed sell quite well even if everything is ultimately guessing. Of course, since it is the only place to buy lossless and allows PayPal, foreign credit cards and so on, those numbers are boosted by foreigners. I haven't bothered to keep an eye out for iTunes etc. in other countries, so I won't even begin to guess.

[Anonymous No.]

In music news, Reflect broke playboard I think.
It's stuck on July 02 numbers giving it 4.8M views.
YouTube shows 5.24M views so growth is about 200K per day. (https://playboard.co/en/video/WGgEFoI9MhE))
RIP the highest viewed holo music 21.6M (https://playboard.co/en/video/5y3xh8gs24c)) grows by 50K everyday. If this continues Reflect will overtake RIP in 82 days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6124523
Kiseki Knot on iTunes WW chart:
6/24 - Rank 33
6/25 - Rank 32
6/26 - Rank 53
6/27 - Rank 62
6/28 - Rank 109
6/29 - Rank 186
6/30 - Rank 178
7/1 - Rank 62
7/2 - Rank 100
7/3 - Rank 196
7/4 - Unranked

[Anonymous No.]

>>6124828
This makes me wonder how long did other songs take to go from ranked to unranked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6124828
Ghost on iTunes WW Chart
4/13 - Rank 72
4/14 - Rank 48
4/15 - Rank 62
4/16 - Rank 90
4/17 - Rank 162
4/18 - Unranked

[Anonymous No.]

Dumb Pekoshitters thought they had the upper hand just because Kuzuha is streaming late lately. KNEEL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6125032
Blue Rose and Comet on iTunes WW Chart
6/25 - Rank 99 / 102
6/26 - Rank 77 / 87
6/27 - Rank 99 / 118
6/28 - Rank 115 / 143
6/29 - Rank 161 / Unranked
6/30 - Unranked

[Anonymous No.]

>>6125071
So what happened to that chick that just blown up in apex?
Didn't she get like, 20K, or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6124523
Hmm I don't think Kimi Dake no Melody is even supposed to be there? It's the ranking for 2021/06/21 ~ 2021/06/27, while it released on 2021/07/01. I've been waiting for the weekly chart to update since it's already 6th here but doesn't seem to be there yet. The next chart should have Kimi Dake no Melody and Taiyou Shoujo by Subaru (released on 2021/07/03), provided they sold enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6125198
She's not streaming which is why kuzuha is getting more than 20k

[Anonymous No.]

>>6125071
I'm pretty sure Aqua reached peak of 21k or 22k for the horse race shill when it reached the climax. Kinda curious here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6125235
I see, is she already being tracked?
Last list did not include her name

[Anonymous No.]

>>6125180
Reflect on iTunes WW Chart
6/21 - Rank 124
6/22 - Rank 19
6/23 - Rank 31
6/24 - Rank 61
6/25 - Rank 142
6/26 - Unranked

[Anonymous No.]

>>6125349
I don't think so, her numbers gets posted here when she streams which is about 4 times since 5 days ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6125071
I wonder how many more apex collabs he would spam if he didnt get the top with that third one

[Anonymous No.]

>>6116501
well he did fish some (you)s

[Anonymous No.]

>>6125917
Fewer (you)s than the "Gura-Pekora" timeloop schizo anon, strangely absent today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6125071
Come on anon, you know that Peko would suck at least 10k out of Kuzuha if she played Apex at the same time as him just like yesterday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6126333
i doubt their audiences overlap in that way, she's just a bigger streamer than him and he streams overnight for 10+ hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6125071
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>6123740
Polka had a bit of a break last month due to having dentist appointments and having toothaches. Also the fact that literally every stream she does is a guerrilla without any sense of pattern to them in regards to the time she streams. As much as I like her I think she has been basically shooting herself in the foot in terms of growth as a streamer by being so fucking inconsistent. Even most of her cover premieres are announced guerilla style and most people don't even know she has a new one out most of the time.

[Anonymous No.]

Sakusan Kanon

>>6125235
pic related Kuzuha getting more than 20k during the last time she peaked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6126513
Anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6123212
JP5 is not doing well despite having decent roommate portfolios.
Everyone in JP2, JP4 and EN1 are inclining.
ID only has Moona.

[Anonymous No.]

Im starting to think that VShojo has reached its peak, I havent seen them grow their numbers since a month already..Do you think it is related to the picture?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6126803
What's this a pic for ants?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6097586
imagine losing to pachinko

[Anonymous No.]

>>6126803
>picture for ants
>saving the thumbnail
Anonchama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>6125214
>I don't think Kimi Dake no Melody is even supposed to be there?

Good catch, I was too focussed on all the other numbers to take note of the date.

>>6125180
The answer is likely to be something as simple as people preferring Bluerose and even small differences in sales making a big difference in the lower ranks, but it still seems weird to me that those two wouldn't just get bought together. Especially since as Suisei's first original song Comet is kind of special. I'd assume gachikois would come out in force.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6126664
There's no doubt some crossover between her audience and Kuzuha and Hal's. He peak at 35k today because she wasn't streaming at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6126815
ah sorry, here:
https://twitter.com/VShojoOfficial/status/1405659463575654405

[Anonymous No.]

>>6126885
Is Kuzuha prepping for a tournament or something with Hal and Reid?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6126645
>Polka had a bit of a break last month
That wouldn't affect her average. See: Haachama, Ayame, Shion.

>I think she has been basically shooting herself in the foot in terms of growth as a streamer by being so fucking inconsistent.
**That** would affect her average and is a sign of burning out, not being capable of organizing a basic schedule usually means her head got all Haachamachama.

[Anonymous No.]

kneel

[Anonymous No.]

>>6126900
>in an imageboard
>posts no pic
Even worse than posting a pic for ants. Better luck next time anonchama, this is the numbers thread, if you aren't bringing numbers to back your rrats people won't pay attention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6126664
PekoJun tete

[Anonymous No.]

>>6126976
No, she's never had an actual schedule for the entirety of her existence. It's always been all guerillas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6126976
>>6127053
She hasn't had any schedules since October 2020 or so. She started out having them but after a spree of oversleeping or no-shows, she decided to drop it and just do stuff whenever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6124655
200k per day, 1.2M per week is a bit too high.

Country Road gets 180k / week.
Sorairo gets 120k / week.
Ai Kotoba gets 80k / week.

I think reflect will stabilize around 700k per week in four weeks from now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6124655
two shitty songs, your point being?

how many views does tenkyuu have?

[Anonymous No.]

Posted this on /jp/ the other day, not sure if it has been posted here.
Non-JP chat comments for June:
Mel 46.63%
Choco 42.3%
Azki 33.9%
Aki 31.91%
Towa 31.27%
Coco 28.35%
Suisei 27.28%
FBK 25.6%
RBC 25%
Korone 19.38%
Hololive average 17.89%
Sora 17.83%
Botan 17.74%
Nene 16.76%
Polka 16.2%
Marine 15.1%
Luna 15.07%
Kanata 14.65%
Watame 13.92%
Matsuri 13.73%
Flare 12.58%
Miko 11.99%
Aqua 9.66%
Rushia 7.91%
Mio 7.88%
Pekora 7.01%
Noel 6.29%
Subaru 6.19%
Okayu 6.14%
Lamy 5.76%
Shion 2.7%
Pulled from this website: https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/nonjp-holojp.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>6126946
no, he's obviously desperately trying to farm for views and curb his recline using apex.
he is. the three of them are a team for the next apex CR cup.
https://twitter.com/ShibuyaHAL/status/1410914215678775297

[Anonymous No.]

>>6127293
>top 5 are all from saviorfags
jesas

[Anonymous No.]

>>6127053
>she's never had an actual schedule
>>6127113
>She hasn't had any schedules
Oh! That doesn't help her anyway, one of the reasons of success for most of the ones at the top of the live viewers chart is
>predictability

It is not as usual as in the days of prime time TV but people still organize their entertainment time around their IRL affairs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6127346
Roboco may have gotten an APEX boost

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>>6127293
Pekora, despite having one of the lowest percentages, is less popular than Kuzuha in Japan. This really puts things into perspective.

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>>6127287
Not enough to be relevant in this conversation in a few weeks when Reflect passes it? (since you seem like a lazy PoS I'll spoonfeed that it's at 8.5 million, which is great and I'm happy as a Hoshiyomi but don't bring her into the modern shitflinging numbers game over your retarded need to shit on other Holos)

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Kuzuha's Like gain is pretty poor. Even Roboko gets more likes than him. Pethatic.

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>>6127411
Roboco does not have an apex boost, in order to get the apex boost you need to either be really good at the game or have the charisma to fill in the downtime and Roboco has neither.

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>>6127484
inhale copium holonigger

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>>6127517
Nijiseethe

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>>6127293
So yeah, with the Apex tournaments this year, Towa's increased her Jp audience a lot. Think she was at 45% in Dec.

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>>6127484
Like Hal, his audience is nearly exclusively Japanese. They like, sub and comment at much lower rates than Westerners. Kuzuha pulling the numbers that he does without EOP boost like Pekora is very impressive.

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>>6127484
you must love him a lot if he supposedly has such poor numbers yet you keep posting about him in these threads.

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>>6127468
Is RIP a better song than Tenkyuu?

is BTS the best group of all time?

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Confirmed. Hoshikawa is actually Roboko tier. Get em robo!

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>>6127623
this is a numbers threads so yes, and yes.

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>>6126885
For sure there's definitely overlap but I wanted to demonstrate that the previous statement was objectively wrong.

That said, for now I think her audience is more on the Apex side than the vtuber side which might mean more potential for growth.

I think that's a problem with this thread is that it doesn't look at the streaming audiences outside of vtubers because there's probably a huge chunk of Japanese vtuber fans are also watching non-v streamers. This is particular hard to appreciate for EOPs for who have not once considered that there is anything outside of anime girl youtube in Japan. With streamed media becoming more prevalent, Japanese normies will start becoming a bigger factor in the numbers. Long term, I see this trend as being better for Anycolor than Cover.

Back to Sakusan Kanon. A lot of people won't like her high energy but I sincerely believe she's more entertaining than any other Vtuber which gives her the potential to reach a much broader audience now and in the future. Or she'll fizzle out in a month.

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>>6127484
Imagine wanting to be Roboco over Kuzuha. This is your brain with mental illness.

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>>6127599
More likely a bunch of his audience are actually just tourists who don't give a shit. His base is about 12k, the rest is variable on what he's doing.

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>>6127361
>no consistency
That's true, and it's something she revealed her manager had advised her about. I don't think she'll ever be not unfocused, it's just not her style. Still if you look at VODs she actually does pretty decently and has been ever since her debut.

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>>6127530
holocope

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>>6127623
Welcome to the numbers thread. Big numbers > small numbers, put up your numbers or fuck off

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>>6127310
So, I got interested in the whole CR cup thing. Kuzuha, Hal and Reid seemed like a stacked group, then I looked at their performance in CR 5 wiki and they're below Matsuri and Towa kek. On the plus side, my boy got in. Idk who he's playing with tho.
https://twitter.com/k4sen/status/1412034318260609028

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>>6127707
Okay, Fuwa is better than every holo not named Coco.

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>>6127666
You see this pattern for every single vtuber with an overwhelming majority of JP audience, not just Kuzuha.

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>>6127517
>>6127610
>>6127660
Ah I love the smell of nijinigger seethe in the morning.

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>>6127718
i know we're in /numbers/ but matsuri and towa both got severely carried by their teams lmao

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>>6127737
>every holo not named Coco.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, Coco really killed comparative numberfaggotry, didn't she?

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>>6127768
what? you want to have sex with kuzuha channel? jeez anon we're discussing numbers here.

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>>6127800
Fuwa still has the top for a 3D debut, graduation is a little different huh?

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>>6127484
>Kuzuha getting shit Likes
>What else is new

Didn't he once get less than 50k likes for an entire month's worth of videos.

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>>6127737
Oh I'm sorry what was that?

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>>6127641
Do you listen to the best songs?
Or do you have a shit taste?
Screen cap your playlist.

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>>6127839
and how much money did she make from it cuckbud?

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>>6127870
>go into numbers thread
>get angry that people only talk about numbers
Why are retards like this?

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>>6127465
If you compare it from a vtuber to another vtuber, yes, she seems way less popular in Japan. But, she literally has no competition in the female vtuber department. Heck she was ranked 4th last year for female streamers having her face pasted with Pokimane and Valkyrae. Gotta give credit to her for being entertaining in a male dominated industry without resorting to being a thot. Kuzuha has to literally compete with Jun, Shaka and other male streamers.

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>>6127819
>still has the top for a 3D debut, graduation is a little different huh
This is becoming "special olympics" tier, anon. This is the numbers thread, there is only one metric
> big number > small number

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>>6127872
Nijideflect

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>>6127839
shut the fuck up, sharkfag.

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>>6127656
>I think that's a problem with this thread is that it doesn't look at the streaming audiences outside of vtubers because there's probably a huge chunk of Japanese vtuber fans are also watching non-v streamers.
The reason no one looks at what happens outside of VTubers is because it is literally off-topic beyond minor statistical comparisons. There is also the fact that there are certain audiences that do not particularly care for VTubers in the first place (if not outright hate them), so the overlap may not be ther or isn't relevant.

The only time non-VTuber stuff matters for this thread is when we can see the market expand and figuring out where the audience is coming from is of particular importance.

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>>6127819
nah he lost to coco. it's still extremely impressive numbers for his current subcount but coco set records that will never be beaten.

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>>6127484
*Pathetic

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>>6127778
Yeah, we're in a numbers thread, but I can't help laughing, seeing the Top Male chuuba and Hal beaten by Towa and Matsuri.

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>>6127935
Why are you using a Holo to defend a nijinigger?

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>>6128015
Coco will always be better than the no talent shark, globalfags hold that L