Haachama might be the next in line to graduate

[Anonymous No.]

>is on hiatus for more than a month
>has barely done any videos in the last couple of months before hiatus
>quality of the videos dropped after she got axed by hololive management

Bros, don't be surprised if she suddenly announces graduation. Zhangs and Cover cucks will kill another creative idol because they can't cope around someone being creative and going outside of the comfort zone

[Anonymous No.]

Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907
old

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907
kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907
They are just delaying the graduation so that they can focus on hyping them up one by one and get massive donations for each graduation.

[Anonymous No.]

I would rather someone stream Apex every day than hot drop one "creepy" video, have a menhera meltdown, not stream for weeks, and then go on indefinite hiatus (graduation) in the name of "creativity".

[Anonymous No.]

I'm fucking done with Nijisanji and Hololive. 2 most retarded companies that can't properly protect their idols.

Lulu has been getting death threats for months and Nijisanji did jackshit. Coco has been constantly harassed by zhangs and any project she tries to make gets thrown out of the window by hololive.

Fuck this, I am moving to Vshojo and indie vtubers, this corporate bullshit is over.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm fucking done watching translated clips of Nijisanji and Hololive. 2 most retarded companies that can't properly protect their idols.

Lulu has been getting death threats for months and Nijisanji did jackshit. Coco has been constantly harassed by zhangs and any project she tries to make gets thrown out of the window by hololive.

Fuck this, I am moving to Vshojo and indie vtubers, this corporate bullshit is over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084032
In the end Haachama just couldn't find an identity for her character that would stick out for her own favor.

Coco openly admitted that she had dark thoughts of her comparing herself to the other Hololive members and those were part of the reasons Coco decided to quit. She tried to sugarcoat it but in the end deep inside it's just classic ugly enviousness. Imagine how bad it's for Haachama.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh0hj7Lh0nc

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084032
>he would rather watch Amelia streaming games she sucks at then watch Haachama drop good videos once a week

kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084306
Yes.
>insert picture of blonde Argie

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084273
Only because Coco's creativity was limited by hololive managers. Did you know she wasn't allowed to collab with HoloEN for months after their debut? Even though many fans wanted her collabing with Gura or Kiara?

Of course when Cover cucks suck out the most creative projects from you and you are left with singing streams, superchat readings, meme reviews and chit-chatting for 1 hour, you end up realizing your content is starting to drop in quality and other idols are basically making better content than you. The only good thing is that Coco realized this on time and graduated while she was still in top form, unlike Haachama who goes on indefinite hiatus and is trying to find something that wont offend zhangs and cover cucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084486
Going by this, if I was in haachamas place I would just wait a month after cocos graduation, then announce that you will graduate too.

With Haachama and Coco gone, Cover is pretty much gonna fall behind

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>>6084486
>Only because Coco's creativity was limited by hololive managers.
Just like Haachama was limited by Youtube. All that Akai Haato vs. Haachama build up got trashed in the end. The one thing she spent so much effort on.
Must have been crushing, no wonder she went on a hiatus soon after.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084098
I did it with the videogame industry and I will do it again with Vtubers. I'm sick of corpos ruining everything, it's indie time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084486
>unlike Haachama who goes on indefinite hiatus and is trying to find something that wont offend zhangs and cover cucks.

I hate you, because you speaking the truth

Being Haaton is pure painapple

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084552
>With Haachama and Coco gone, Cover is pretty much gonna fall behind
Nah, that's too unrealistic. They are just two out of many. One new generation alone adds 4-5 more which is more than enough to replace old ones and there's just too much income and too many willing newcomers applying for Hololive to fall apart from mere two streamers graduating.

If anything it will just solidify a standard for the shorter end of lifespans of what Vtubers could be under Cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>everyone who panders to westerners graduates
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084748
>meanwhile western Hololives first to break 3M while JP is still crawling on both sides of 1M

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084306
Now change that once a week to once a month. The content becomes so sparse you lose your investment in it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084552
>With Haachama and Coco gone, Cover is pretty much gonna fall behind
They really won't though, they have no problem putting out idol content and plenty of people that sincerely want to pursue it. Coco and Haachama hit the same problem, what they want to do isn't what Cover wants to do. But there ARE people who are in line with what Cover wants, and Haachama leaving won't change that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084799
>muh numbers
only normalfags care about what's popular. if cover would keep the branches segregated then maybe your ilk would stay in your lane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084814
Yagoo did just recently state that fortitude to produce content consistently is one of the top 3 requirements for the job.
>goes on a long hiatus
>if it had been medical reasons they would have stated it like with Miko

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907
yeah we know she is soft graduated, but they can't announce it now, it's too soon, Coco just graduated the other day

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084098
>Lulu has been getting death threats for months and Nijisanji did jackshit.
Objectively wrong. A bunch of the creeps got arrested because of Anycolor's efforts. The problem is that 1. Lulu is hard doxed, 2. there's no shortage of creeps infatuated by her, and 3. Japanese police are retarded boomers who love to victim blame. The most they tend to do about parasocial schizo stalkers is just keep telling the streamers to stop streaming, and eventually it's too late, the streamer is stabbed and/or raped.
The fact that some got arrested is honestly a miracle, but dealing with stalkers in Japan is as much of a fight against the police as it is against the stalkers. Anycolor wasn't guaranteed to win every time a new one popped up before they did something really bad, so Lulu had no choice but to graduate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6085237
>victim blame
go back

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>>6085237
Japanese police do seem to be pretty stodgy and useless but it seems like stalkers are a bit of a blind spot in the law everywhere. In the US for example you can get a restraining order but that means updating your stalker with your address so he can stay away. And I've even heard of cases where the stalker moves in nearby and successfully feigns ignorance and gets to remain. Now the impetus is on the victim to move.
You can't really bring the hammer down on these people until they've attempted something drastic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6085237
This. Any other typical Japanese company(like most real life idol businesses) pressures the talents into just bearing with it. Kaida Haru talked about the legal process that even if the police catch the stalkers, their only advice to you is to just move your house

[Anonymous No.]

>>6085455
>that means updating your stalker with your address

[Anonymous No.]

>>6085288
Unlike braindead twitter or tumblr troons, I don't use that term lightly.

That's literally what the Japanese police does. Unless you literally get stabbed and catch it on camera, faces and all, the Japanese police WILL be your enemy.

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>>6085576
It's both insanely stupid and also the only logical result of a restraining order. Your stalker can't be reasonably expected to stay away from you if he has no idea where you live. Looking into it, the cases where stalkers have moved close to their victims and been found not at fault is when the victims decided to not update their stalker. So the stalker covertly locates them and pretends to the court that he had no idea. Lose-lose if you're the stalkee.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084953
But if that were the case, Matsuri and Haachama would have been kicked out already

[Anonymous No.]

>>6085940
They can take their time kicking out old talents. It's not like they have to pay them when they are not working.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084799
yeah but top 10 most superchatted Vtubers are JP, and that's where all the money comes from

[Anonymous No.]

>>6086441
They aren't getting superchats if they don't make content. Past is past.

[Anonymous No.]

I miss Haachama

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084273
Haachama wrote about comparing herself to other Holos in a members' diary post last year. She feels untalented compared to her colleagues. It's true because all her skills are underdeveloped. She lacks the self-confidence and willpower to pursue improvement. There is a catch-22 where streaming motivates her to do something, but she feels she already needs to be good at the thing to stream it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907
>oh no breakchama can't do uni and steam at the same time she must be quitting aaaaa
Meds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907
>Haachama might be the next in line to graduate
And if/when that does happen, we won't hear about her ever again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084486
Coco's "creativity" was being offbrand vshitshow. Stop deluding yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6087406
Do you mean she will just announce graduation and leave in a single Tweet? Do you mean no one will care after she's gone?

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>>6084886
Coco has the problem of trying to be too cringe for her own good. Haato has the problem of having a life and having you faggots trying to force her to live in-character more than luna does. It haato leaves it'll be shitbags like you at fault.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6087433
She said herself that management was constantly suspicious of her intentions when seeking permission for new content. I don't hate vulgar humor but I do think that being increasingly vulgar does not make your content better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6087596
No one forced Haato. It seems she started to genuinely become invested in the lore more than anything else she has done before. The other weird things she does seem to be simple numberfagging for whatever reason. But honestly if she keeps pushing boundaries for the sake of impact she will just be labeled a Vshojo-tier creatively bankrupt cringelord. That will turn off a portion of potential viewers for the sake of attracting a specific audience.

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>>6084486
In Haato's case, it's YouTube being a bitch with her horror lore content over having stuff like implied suicide and murder in them and management having to make sure whether it's worth letting her do it because now everytime they have to file a dispute with YouTube if everytime those videos get flagged as age restricted and demonetized.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084886
list the people currently in hololive that you think want to be pure idols
please do this, it'll be really fucking funny for everyone to see how retarded you are

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084486
Haachama is actually pretty good at voice acting/singing, her ASMR was also pretty good, she doesn't really need to be super creative to compensate for the lack of "idol" skills like Coco.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084025
Or just damage control.
Two graduations back to back would look bad even for Cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6085237
Meanwhile Shion battling stalker in court alone.
Same with Aloe.

I never though that Anycolor could be better in taking care of employees than Cover

[Anonymous No.]

>>6087433
Kanata project was also blocked.
Is she Vbich tier too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6087495
No roommate.
If we are lucky, kson could take her under her wings. If not we can never find her again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6090194
>If we are lucky, kson could take her under her wings
Well that seems very likely if she does graduate

[Anonymous No.]

>>6085455
Wrong, in the US you can just buy a fucking gun and if the stalker attempts to invade your house you can just shoot him and say it was self defense

[Anonymous No.]

>>6091107
> Wrong, in the US you can just buy a fucking gun

...the worst part, stalker can too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6091107
Yeah, that's what Boogie2988 thought. Inb4 some "he would have gotten away with it if he actually killed him" cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6088611
Just beacuse they want to be idols doesn't mean they have to be pure

[Anonymous No.]

>>6091857
and how many e-thots so far were shot so far by their stalkers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6092037
That's not cope. That is how US law works.

[Anonymous No.]

kys

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>>6083907
Oh, look, it's this thread again. I wonder if any new pertinent information is out to prompt this. Nope, it's not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907
She locked herself into a box with the schizo stuff anyway.

It started off interesting because it was a way of canonizing how her personality and streaming style changed from how she was at the start, but the lore itself became convoluted and pointlessly edgy as it kept going on. The formal ending was botched due to YT stuff and even after her first 2 breaks it kept going on.

Now if she were to come back that lore will always be a part of her character that she will have to acknowledge going forward. She could go back to doing normal stuff but it would no longer mesh with the edgy story she wrote for herself, so her options, if she wants to stay in Hololive, are to keep doing the same thing until everyone is sick of it, or basically soft-reincarnate and pretend it never happened or isn't an important part of her persona, like how almost every other holomem treats their lore and originally stated character. Both are wastes of her creativity

[Anonymous No.]

>>6089458
And yet Niji has more graduated talents than Holo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6092380

You gonna be first

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907
I hope not, I really like her chara voice and EN attempts. The content itself is a big hit or miss with me. Also like her single song. Is there a way to cross reference if she went to hiatus right around the time Coco most likely told the others about her graduation?

[Anonymous No.]

5ch says that Shion is next and it will be announced in august.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6093537
Yeah but 5ch knows just as much as this board and it's JOP schizos are worse with their rrats than some of the anons making graduation threads on here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6093142
You don't graduate from Hololive until you have very good reason. This job is just too profitable.
And there is lot less small dramas/bullying in Holo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083967
My wife

[Anonymous No.]

>>6093890
Be honest, if Shion did announce her graduation in August would you be shocked?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6093890
This.
Only source of Shion info is her fanbox/other twitter. And some people from here also have acces to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6093983
I wouldn't care either

[Anonymous No.]

If Hachama graduates I will make Nanking look like a fucking joke

[Anonymous No.]

>>6093983
If Shion or Ayame graduated, I would be sad but not surprised. They are part of the "least invested" in Hololive group seeing how infrequent their streams are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6093142
Holo has a far higher proportion of graduated talent, but you'll just say homos/cn etc. don't count.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6094757
I wouldn't be surprised and I never watched them anyway, but I would be upset that their great designs wouldn't be put to use anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>6093537
we just need to namedrop all the holos that they're next and screencap the thread. One is bound to be true and we can say 4chan was right again

[Anonymous No.]

>>6093983
Kinda, it's not like she has another way of making a living to fall back on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084273
im more curious of which member she feels like she's inferior to when all of them just plays vidya like any other holomem. im inclined to say it's the EN and their new antics but i dont know

[Anonymous No.]

What are the chances the hiatus is just so she can be re-introduced as an EN member with the 2nd gen? Or is it all a pipe dream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6095648
i mean coco did say to the EN when she talked to all of them that dont stop being creative and keep pushing boundaries

[Anonymous No.]

>>6095648
Probably EN. But I think the inferiority complex came after Youtube axed her and haachama

[Anonymous No.]

>>6095689
She is not fluent

[Anonymous No.]

>>6095648
Saying they all "just plays vidya" wouldn't explain why they get vastly different audiences, both in size and makeup.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6095689
No, she cannot just abandon her JP fanbase and she barely speaks English

[Anonymous No.]

>>6095689
EN management kicked her from EN Minecraft server.
So unlikley

[Anonymous No.]

>>6095648
She probably started to feel inferior since she was made to compete against other holos in areas she doesn't excel. She excels at stuff like dark-but-very-tame comedy and improvisation that her managers don't approve because they cannot control it fully.

It's reasonably unfair to expect Coco to sing like Suisei, to do endurance gameplays like Korone and Okayu, to be a really good gamer like Aqua or Botan or to do idol shit like Sora, Matsuri, etc. Just like it's unfair to expect the aforementioned members to do something like asacoco.

Imagine Cover just decides no more singing. What would happen with Sora and Suisei, for example? They'll lose their niche and will be more prone to leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6097055
makes sense yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

Or maybe she is literally just attending school, and has to focus on her studies

[Anonymous No.]

>>6095689
0%
It is the definition of Cope. They already had the whole EN Gen 0th thing and I am heavily suspecting that there were plans for Coco and Chaama to be closer to EN and to use them to bridge the gap between JP and EN. Then the whole Chink incident happened and Cover scrapped those plans. Chaama was allowed to finish out her already planned collabs and Coco was given a hard no on all EN collabs. Leaving EN essentially cut off from JP for a while until ID 2 debuted and they built the bridge to EN.

At this point I don't think Haachama wants anything to do with EN after all the manager fuckery.

We'll see though this is Akai Haato we are talking about she could also just be just taking some time off while she reinvents herself again and deals with IRL stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6097350
>Coco was given a hard no on all EN collabs
>pretending Coco's collabs with Calli and Kiara never happened

99% of the information on /vt/ is completely made up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6097716
WHEN those collabs happended?
You are really that retarded or just trolling?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907
>finally returned to Japan but still barely interact with anyone or leave her house. Basically got fucked from being isolated for so long while in Australia.
>don't have any close friends within Hololive, Most JPs have their own cliques, can't speak English well enough to get in with any of the ENs
>still have to deal with potential chink antis
>parents still don't approve of her being a V-tuber
>management keeps restricting your most successful content
>constant health issues

It's only a matter of time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6097754

Don't take your frustrations out on me, Anon. It isn't my fault you're wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6091107
If only but demorats have heavily modified the constitution and laws around guns. In most states you can still go to jail for shooting at a thief inside your own fucking house.

[Anonymous No.]

I can send a text message to Haachama, I haven’t. What could I say if anything to make her feel better and let her know we miss her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6098025
I hope she doesnt try to graduate from life

[Anonymous No.]

>>6097055

Haachama is in a similar spot. She's great at curating fan content into meme videos, but if that gets stepped on, she's in trouble.

She can do fun English covers, but those are getting taken down. She's pretty good at ASMR, but that's iffy on Youtube.

She's not the best singer in Hololive, so she started spicing up her singing streams by doing multiple characters and making the whole thing kind of an act.

She's not the best gamer in Hololive, so she wanted to do ideas like the lotion RFA which got axed. Even in Minecraft streams, she did the huge Babel project and used it as a way to stream more in character as Haato.

She puts a creative spin on everything because she's not strong enough to directly compete with her peers in the areas that management is promoting. But if she can't even go in that direction anymore, then there's nowhere else to go and she'll be in the same "spiral" that Coco talked about being in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6098025
Her most successful content was Haachama cooking which management had no issues with, it was the creepy lore ARG stuff that management didn't like cause it was easily flagged as mature content by YT and needed to be disputed to get it back to normal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6098161
Send her a D-Mail.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6098336
Agreed. Even though I do consider her a good singer and her ASMRs feels quite unique to me. I think she doesn't like gaming, like, at all; and this is a problem since games make up for a lot of streaming content. They can even be used as fillers.

Thing is she likes to improvise shit on the run and whenever she gets blocked, she lose motivation and gets stuck. I started to see this pattern from her and I can understand her since I'm like that; if someone blocks stuff I want to do at work I get hard disheartened and it drains myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907
they hated him cause he told the truth

[Anonymous No.]

>>6089775
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>6098686
She touched on it after the second hiatus, she's entered the normie mentality of not wanting to put in the time to git gud at a game, and she only wants to play the stuff she's already good at or is very low effort. This means minecraft and tetris until she finds a new addiction

[Anonymous No.]

>>6098055
NTA but You are fucking wrong here Anon.

They just let EN collab with Coco when she announce graduation

even execuation prisioner has last meal

[Anonymous No.]

>>6097350
she confirmed planning to set up an Ame collab during the last week before break, that and the EN0 stream could be what caused her manager to schedule another "indefinite hiatus"

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907
My rrat is that she has a boyfriend in australia and she’s going through dick withdrawals and misses her lover who is also one of her fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6101479
>dick withdrawals
Do women really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907
Why do faggots keep spamming the same shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907

honestly I'm preparing for the fact that anytime within the year, there is a possibility she announces her graduation too. probably like how coco had hers, few days before the birthday and at least few weeks to do stuff like having collabs. she got so limited streams which showcased her creativity after her ideas got axed, then what hit her hardest was Coco announcing her graduation 3 months ago (which might had contributed as well to the first hiatus this year). also, removing the recent videos was already sus in the first place, since she did try to start again after the schizo arc, only leaving Infinity as the latest video on the channel

even if they assured that she will come back, the question is when? during Coco's graduation stream, she even spoke only few words (though more likely they talked privately, given how close she is with Coco herself)

[Anonymous No.]

>>6085237
>Anycolor tells Lulu to go to the police
>Police catch stalkers
>It's Anycolor's credit that the stalkers were caught!
Nijifags really do love sucking corporate dick

[Anonymous No.]

>>6098336
>>6098686
Honestly, I feel that trying to put a spin on everything was unnecessary. Sometimes the spins were interesting, sometimes they sucked. Everyone should know by now that Haachama randomly thinks of a stream idea and then slaps together a stream 2 hours before going live. Now she got stuck in the mindset of trying to appease lore tourists and those who are only interested in her doing something weird/crazy. Maybe forcing her brain to plan and write would be a good thing, if it didn't contribute to the pressure that makes her a menhera mess nowadays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6101268
I think it's fairly obvious now that that EN managers treat her like AIDS. I don't think it has anything to do with the Chinese. It's a shame because she has been completely tame when collabing with HoloEN in the past. Blocking a primary motivation to practice her English probably kills her emotional health, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6102763
Clueless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6105102
I don't think it's EN managers with haachama because they've never been forbidden from saying her name, there's a small section of JP management that specifically wants her to either graduate by giving her the coco bubble treatment or be japanese only for some reason

[Anonymous No.]

why doesnt hololive just make their own streaming platform?

[Anonymous No.]

Haatons are mentally ill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6105431
Fans take after their oshi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6104152

I wish she could go back to keeping it simple and have fun with it. MMD voice-overs, memes, covers, CM's, shitposts, all that stuff was good. I want summer of 2020 back.

>>6098686

> if someone blocks stuff I want to do at work I get hard disheartened and it drains myself.

I can see her going from demoralized to eventually just bored and numb to it. Fighting against youtube and her managers isn't going to work, so she'll just feel dead to it and move on to something else that lets her express herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6105911
Haachama has been showing signs of depression for a long time now. Depression sucks the fun out of everything you do and drowns out voices of support. I hope she can pull out of it soon and learn to fight it.

What do people think she has been blocked from doing besides horror lore content? Most of the problems with that were due to the content of fan creations, not her own writing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083967
>>6084008
What would you do if she in fact, announces her graduation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084273
>those were part of the reasons Coco decided to quit.
She didn't decide to quit. Cover made that decision for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907
I already cancelled my membership. It hurts but I didn't like the schizo stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>6106526
>the importance of watching streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>6106526
But anon you're making that up

[Anonymous No.]

>>6108218
I'll wait until the NDA expires or she release her autobiography

[Anonymous No.]

>>6096757
because the product is sex, and the people who want to fuck the blue loli and the big titty ghetto skank are vastly different demographics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6108318
You'd be dead by then.

[Anonymous No.]

Lewd review #4 is at 989K and set to hit 1M before Infinity. Looks like the Akai Haato comeback will have to feature a full-blown gravure career.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6108318
Just buy her roommate membership and read her newest community post.

[Anonymous No.]

Speculation bait for newfaggots. Haato stays in purgatory while real next graduate is going to be a little less obvious, someone really active like Coco was. Korone probably.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6108495
2 to 4 years is not so much time

[Anonymous No.]

If haachama grauates, there won't be enough mods to stop me from spamming the board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907
I hope not. I love her voice and laugh. Everyone will move on eventually but I hope she stays around for a while yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6086996
heh what a mystery.

[Anonymous No.]

Haachama would make a great voice actress.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907
the only one who is next to graduate is you from life

[Anonymous No.]

>>6106421
Kill myself. No questions asked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6108750
I mean alot can happen in 2 to 4 years

[Anonymous No.]

Chinks ruined everything

[Anonymous No.]

>>6109587
Yes cover can file for bankruptcy during that time

[Anonymous No.]

>>6091857
If the stalker wanted to kill you he would've done it way before you'd even think of a restraining order.

[Anonymous No.]

Even though mentally I think she’s close to quitting, remember theyre releasing a fucking nendoroid. Contracts and merchandise and shit, they’ll pump out what they can and she’ll go on hiatuses infinitely

[Anonymous No.]

>>6109814
This >>6108495

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907
>t. doesn't watch streams
Several members have already talked about this, she's preparing for university and even has plans for after her return

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907
she pandered to EOPs and lost her JOPs and since the EOPs dont care/donate she gave up

[Anonymous No.]

>>6092380
The closest I can think of was Gavin Free was with his streamer girlfriend when one of her stalkers broke into her house. The two of them hid in a closet while he wondered around and they waited for the police.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6111160
I thought I would be dead before seeing Kiryu Coco leave, and lo, I'm still here.

[Anonymous No.]

The Chinese antis never bothered her and even the English streams were never enough of a problem for Cover to take immediate action. Her breaks have been because of Youtube's restrictions, concert practice, and shock from Coco's graduation (both when first brought up behind the scenes and publicly announced). She has been through a lot ever since coming back to Japan so it shouldn't be a surprise that a 19-year-old girl would need some time to get her bearings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6100613
And Pekora's blocked project?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6101520
Anon, I...

[Anonymous No.]

>>6111733
Yes!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6108589
Korone has been showing no signs of graduating, and if Korone leaves, Okayu goes with her as well

[Anonymous No.]

More likely Matsuri will graduate next. She has been on mental breakdown for a while to the point where her other co workers stopped colabing with her. It wont be long until Shion is next

[Anonymous No.]

Hachaama is probably going to be next. Cover completely nerfed her schizo arc, that she put a lot of effort into, and now is stricter about what chuubas can post.
Coco left because of lack of creative freedom and zhangs, it's not farfetched to think that Haato might leave for the same reason too, considering the fact that she hasn't streamed in a month

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwBwsYgxB1k
Haatons let's watch ARIA STICK TO THE PLAN
I can't believe you idiots thought it was haato

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907
Is she really going insane or something? Found this rrat
>I think she expected Japan to be better since she was in Australia for so long that she began to develop an idea of it being some kind of paradise, only to be shattered when she returned to the Japanese education system and found it to be incredibly uptight and the people to be way less honest and faker. That, combined with the guilt she no doubt feels over Coco must be pushing her pretty close.

Looking around for a vid, she was way more herself a year ago, just chillling and being cute doing minecraft
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cQmM6IoB11A

[Anonymous No.]

>>6105424
Because streaming platforms at scale cost a fuckton of money, and rarely break even. That's before you factor in that you actually need to grow your audience, which platforms like youtube and twitch make easier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6113258
Korone had her low moment two months ago but she's recovered since.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6098025
>>constant health issues
Huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6106411
Depression or burnout. I've had the same feeling about her for a while now. I think about the time it was becoming really obvious was around the end of 2020 when she was going back to Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6113258
She literally tweeted (and deleted) that she wants to quit streaming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nozZp5OQbI

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907
I dont care never really got why she was so popular she and coco were always Idols are supposed to be pure but we're not gasp. I ate a bug wow. https://youtu.be/XqhhjcoaL0M
Hi honey whats the oppsite so I can be quirky

[Anonymous No.]

>>6115371
It was a momentary episode of depression because her mom had to get surgery again and is still in the hospital

[Anonymous No.]

>>6115562
haachama brings more original content than vshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>6114966
>guilt over Coco
Oh retards still believing the "Coco took a bullet for Haachama" narrative

[Anonymous No.]

>>6115909
This. I don't get why people think Vshojo is in any way better in terms of creativity when they are confined by what is popular on Twitch, that's why 90% of their content is zatsudans and "watch me watch YouTube vids and react to them".

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>>6084154

[Anonymous No.]

>>6111243
ywnbj

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>>6084552
With native English speakers gone, 4chan pretty much fall behind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6108378
not everything revolves around sex you absolute coomer

[Anonymous No.]

>>6114123
Nerfed because they were getting taken down by YouTube for having mature content, which means she can't monetize those videos. Ofcourse they were gonna ask her to rethink her whole schizo arc if it meant constantly having to argue with YouTube everytime she uploads something.

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>>6083907
You forgot to mention that she deleted a bunch of her streams a little while back, including the 3rd year anniversary

[Anonymous No.]

>>6115562
I have bad news for you and your idol delusion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=719AgEU1i38

[Anonymous No.]

>>6115909
I thought vs was just buch of indies banding together to become corps nor them becoming idols. Like do they even sing

[Anonymous No.]

>>6116627
Oh no they ate bugs I'm going to kms now its not like it's becoming mainstream. Like can you even read you troglodyte that's not why she's boring its that persona is the opposite of what you expect of an idol and once you know that you can predict what she going to do

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>>6111526
Retard , Haachama got spammed hard in October last year but anti was weaker and weaker so they focused to Coco only afterward.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6085237
When the yakuza offer better work safety than a corp.. At least the yamaguchigumi would keep stalkers away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6115983
I still believe she could possibly feel guilt because of the same thing happening to her only hours before. Of course this whole situation is covers fault for not doing anything or warning anyone despite it happening again and again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6115983
Haachama blame herself anon....

[Anonymous No.]

>>6115983
want the real narrative
viewer traffic shit was her idea

[Anonymous No.]

Why is haachamas english so atrocious, at least Coco lived all her life in US, so she speaks it fluently, haachama cant even construct a proper sentence

[Anonymous No.]

>>6118070
She had no friends for the majority of her overseas stay and as a result didn't talk very much. Reading comprehension needed for tests doesn't help you talk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6117284
Unless it's one of their own doing the stalking, kidnapping and murdering ofcourse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6092037
Boogie's issue was brandishing the gun and firing it before anyone got in his house. And also that the whole thing was filmed. You still have to prove the guy you shot was trying to kill you in most states.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6096677
She is very fluent but she just pretends not to be. She's slipped up several times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6118070
>goes to Australia to study and learn English
>family that took you in hates you and doesn't talk to you
>lockdown starts so you can't go to school and interact in english
>stay inside all day talking to online friends in Japanese
gee, i wonder why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6119613
>this is what newfags actually believe

[Anonymous No.]

>>6119662
She only lived with her abusive family for a year or so, Anon-chama. But yeah, it's true she didn't get enough practice using it.

[Anonymous No.]

But whose toes am I gonna suck when Haachama graduates?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6126330
you can stop pretending you don't have your own foot in your mouth, we know about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907
>might

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>>6126356
Cringe...

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084273
She was pretty fun during her tsundere phase and making fun of haatons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6126330
Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084273
>king of holojp graduated because she compared herself to others
look what talentless EN numberfaggotry is doing

[Anonymous No.]

>>6119587
Key legal distinction: you have to reasonably believe your life is in danger. Boogie may very well walk because Arkansas is SYG.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6126569
It's not EN's fault, it's retarded hololive management that kept throwing out her projects and expecting she does idol like things like gaming and singing

[Anonymous No.]

>>6098025
The irony is that she could just marry a wealthy American middle aged pedophile (take her choice) and all of her problems would be solved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6092037
If he had killed him there would only be one side of the story told to the police. In America, it’s always the better option to kill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6114966
University in Japan is literally easy mode and seen as your variation from the grind of high school until you become a joyless wagie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6126989
Vacation.

[Anonymous No.]

Hold up guys, Haachama may be graduating soon but just imagine having sex with her.

DAMN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907
>>is on hiatus for more than a month
It was obviously a preemptive break to avoid the chinks that coco's graduation left behind.
Clover is hoping that with coco's graduation, their apologize on twitter and hachama's break will be enough to finally extinguish the chink's rage.

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>>6127144
Actually they're hoping that when Haachama graduates in a couple of months you'll think this somehow is just a crazy coincidence and that neither graduation had anything at all to do with Zhang I mean look at these 5 distraction reasons Coco gave you believe them right?

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>>6126569
That's not numberfaggotry and no she didn't leave because of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6126569
The actual EN is fine. The "gen 0 EN" hacks have either graduated or are on depressive hiatus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6126635
She likes singing. She just doesn't have confidence in her singing ability. Singchama streams are less popular among her other common content.

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

>>6127312
Oh no, it's EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6127220
people like that wont see any dissent from the company line on reddit and believe it

[Anonymous No.]

>>6096757
Personality matters. Vtubers approach the same content differently, treat their audiences differently and tell different stories in different ways, drawing different people to watch them. None of the holos are particularly talented at any one thing other than minimizing dead air. Even if they were, there aren't that many chances to neatly showcase your abilities when you're a stiff 2D avatar with limited movements and expressions, and no way to seamlessly present and interact with your immediate surroundings on stream. Vidya, karaoke and zatsudan are often all you get for your usual stream content, so you gotta tailor those to your "style".

[Anonymous No.]

>>6127312
Or maybe it's the curse of the EN, after all the "Gen 0" graduated, it would be your beloved oshi's turn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084098
Lulu has just had multiple stalkers, many of which were punished but it takes a toll on you.
On a side note, people like to blame the Japanese Police for this shit, but their hands are tied. There's a very vague line between being a fan and liking someone, and being a stalker that deserves to be thrown in jail. On some level anyone who googles what her face is is "stalking" her, just seeing her in public and being curious about her real life isn't stalking. Naturally as well there's thousands of random shitposters just saying things for laughs on 4chan and 5ch and everything, if police started jailing people because they said on 5ch they want to tie Lulu up and fuck her like a dying pig people would be crying about the authoritarian state jailing people for thought crimes.

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>>6126906
There's the other side to this too in that the reason shooting someone is legal as self defense, is because you have no choice but to use lethal force to protect yourself and property.
If you're capable of taking care of things in a humiliating way that causes undo suffering, you clearly didn't need to do it because you had other ways of dealing with the situation.

Castle doctrine is someone broke into my house, I don't know what they have on them but they went out of their way to break into my house so I can reasonable expect they're capable of killing me or fighting back, thus I need to respond accordingly. This would be the case if a stalker invaded.
But if I go out in my lawn and get filmed clearly not being in any danger and going out of my way to take action, its clearly not a response to perceived deadly force and is just wanting to shoot something. This is why things like baiting people into your house to shoot them is illegal even in states where castle doctrine exists.

There's a lot that goes into gun laws that isn't as cut and dry as a lot of people believe. The crux of it is always about whether you can justify using lethal force to protect yourself or not. If you can't justify it reasonably you can't do it legally.

[Anonymous No.]

I like Haachama, but she isn't that good at singing.
She is alright for an amateur, but comparing her to proper singing talents in Hololive is just not appropriate.

[Anonymous No.]

If she graduates there will be little reason for me to watch hololive outside of gen 4 and a few in gen 5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6129953
t. boogie

[Anonymous No.]

>>6129953
>The crux of it is always about whether you can justify using lethal force to protect yourself or not.
One party being dead means no one can contradict your justification.

[Anonymous No.]

Haachaamaa is quite busty, isn't she?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6127479
How can we defend the talent without being a brand loyalist cocksucker?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6131989
She is good, not amazing like Suisei or Kanata

[Anonymous No.]

>>6129289
this post gets no replies because it's right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907
I’m going to miss her dumb butt

[Anonymous No.]

>>6106421
Kill you and then kill myself no doubt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084098
>Fuck this, I am moving to Vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>6092404
false. That's a state-by-state thing. Some states, such as hawaii, have a "duty to retreat" law. You go to prison if you attack an attacker in your home, unless you can prove you had to physical way out other than killing the person. Literally stricter than cops.

So usually people just disappear the bodies by prisons if they get a home invader, because it's actually, no joke, easier than dealing with the courts. Ran across a few dead ones on the way to work.

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>>6129289
Holy based

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[Anonymous No.]

She's been hanging out with Hoshikawa again. Maybe she'll leave to join Niji EN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6143504
Why do people keep pushing Chama EN of all things? It would be a novelty at best. She still has to work on her English to match her JP personality. If you think forcing herself to stream in English would be good for her...you might be right. I don't see how else she would get the practice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6145479
that's why I send an ARS red when I can, her manager can pressure her not to stream in english but he can't stop her from reading superchats, gotta keep her in practice to some extent until he gets fired

[Anonymous No.]

people really don't know non-american university are fucking busy hours 24/7 huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>6146556
Nigga what? American universities are some of the busiest in the world. Say what you will about the rest of the education system, theres a reason American universities are the top in the world.

Japan College is a joke, you literally only go for "connections"

[Anonymous No.]

>>6148054
>implying American universities aren't just about connections
>Ivy League
Anon, American universities have been on the decline since the 90s, tuition keeps going up while education quality stagnates. American parents are actually telling kids to just pick up a trade than go to a university and go into debt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907
away

[Anonymous No.]

>>6149289
Still irrelevant. And Ivy league is a meme anyways. The actual quality of education in America is top notch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6149289
>>6156456
Starting in 2019 Agricultural trade schools in Northern California have had an uptick in enrollment, which is a first since the 1970s,

[Anonymous No.]

>>6156456
Top notch at teaching people shit they will never use if or when they can get a job. Everyone is just there for the piece of paper and to network.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6098025
>>parents still don't approve of her being a V-tuber
You want to know how everyone here can tell you don't watch her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6145479
>>6146348
>EOPs forcing JP talents to speak English to satisfy their own retarded EOP saviorfag needs
Your ENwhores are that way. If Haachama is to be come relevant again it's if she stops pandering to EOP cancerfags like you idiots and return to her 2020 self.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6157492
>everyone
Don't kid yourself. 99% of the people here are newfags who only started watching her this year and actually believe this

[Anonymous No.]

>>6156456
if I wanted to hire communists I'd hire from china

[Anonymous No.]

>>6158339
She is relevant, just not with your kind.

[Anonymous No.]

>MIGHT be back August 10th
It's overchama......

[Anonymous No.]

>>6159159
>t. EOP cancerfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083967
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>6159276
>watching clickbait garbage made by seaniggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>6159368
I don't. I watched them before I nihongojouzu'd myself. I just read the titles now to keep up with news because I can only watch like 90m of content a day now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6145479
I legit stopped watching Haachama because of her EN attempts.
Too cringe for me to handle, really put me off her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6133702
you just noticed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6156456
>The actual quality of education in America is top notch.
Imagine believing this when Amerifat universities deliberately lower entry requirements for niggers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6156456
Is that why common core exists? It's only top quality to itself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907
Her body in japan, but her spirit still stay in Australia anon. She misses punching kangaroo, hunting dingoes, swallowing spiders and wrestling with crocodiles. Japan is so tame she couldn't stand it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084098
Welcome here my friend, And remember: The sluttiest VShojo is the cutest

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083907
What about her is so "creative" exactly?