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What is the likelihood of Suisei fulfilling her ultimate dream? (Budoukan)

>> No.6066508

>>6066482
Hololive is kind of a global phenomenon at this point, so I'd say pretty high.

>> No.6066511

>>6066482
At the current rate of growth? Pretty likely. Cover could probably hire the Budokan and fill it for a concert as it stands now.

>> No.6066534

>>6066482
Extremely likely when the coof dies down.

>> No.6066604

>>6066482

It will be on Onlyfans, because she is next to retire after Coco and it's only bukkake rape.

>> No.6066629

>>6066482
She'll get there together with Sora

>> No.6066650

>>6066482
aqua wants to do a concert in there too
so a hololive bodoukan is very likely at this point

>> No.6066862

>>6066482
What's preventing them from having a 3D Live there once covid is over? Is it always booked, or do they tell you to fuck off if you aren't super famous?

>> No.6066883

>>6066650
Watame too

>> No.6066886

>>6066604

This is only correct post itt.

>> No.6066895
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6066895

Aqua will get there first, autism is stronger than tryhardism

>> No.6066915

>>6066862

It's both

>> No.6066920

>>6066482
Shinya Arino from Game Center CX did a live let's play at budokan, so I'd say it's pretty possible for a group of anime idol streamers to do a concert there.

>> No.6066930 [DELETED] 

>>6066895
Aqua will become mary a farmer and live in the outskirts because she’s a dumb fuck who can’t make it in the city

>> No.6066946

>>6066915

True. Bodoukan is like MSG, so it's never happening. unless they're Nintendo famous

>> No.6066958

>>6066862
It's always booked but plenty of smaller groups have played there like Judas Priest

>> No.6066996

>>6066920

Arino has heavily involved with a lot of famous companies, so no.

>> No.6067016

>>6066482
The only thing stopping them is the chinkflu.

>> No.6067038

>>6066946
Judas priest played there and they are definitely not nintendo famous

>> No.6067082

>>6067038

Yeah, 40 fucking years ago. Do better.

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6067128

>>6067082
>2005 was 40 years ago

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6067195

>>6066482
More likely than Watame, but those were very low chances to begin with. Poor sheep never stood a chance.

>> No.6067295

>>6067128

Still true tho because population. Plus, a lot of Judas Priest live shows weren't live due to the stage's notoriously shitty sound

So get ready for her to bomb very badly lol

>> No.6067566

>>6066482
Impossible.
She can't sing for shit, and she can't do entertainment without leeching off someone else.
Her being gone is just good riddance.

>> No.6067597

>>6066482
she's fullfilling something alright. deez nuts

>> No.6067661

>>6066482
less than if she had joined Nijisanji instead

>> No.6067892

>>6067661
If she had joined Nijisanji, she would have tied her fate to Toko, and probably formed a two girl unit with Inui Toko. It would have depended on how much Anycolor and their masters at Sony would have elected to back Tokomachi, but Toko draws 20k audiences on her Utawakus now of days, so I suspect if Tokomachi was a frequent Uta pairing, we'd be seeing some rather crazy concurrent audiences from the two.

TLDR: Toko and Susiei would have leeched one another up to the Budokan, so long as they check the Ensta addiction.

>> No.6068744

>>6067892
Why not form the core of an Ensemble Girls reboot with the two? Being the leads for reviving a franchise and actually making it work would be the ultimate reason to get a Budokan appearance.

>>6067566
You thinking of Gorilla, not psychopath.

>> No.6068793

>>6068744
It would be nice if it could happen, but it's probably out of Tokomachi's hands if they were given this opportunity. They would likely take it in a heartbeat though, if the offer was made, knowing the two of them.

>> No.6068847

>>6068744
Kanata has range, power, and alot of pitch control but her timbre basically is very thin to nearly non-existent. She basically is support vocalist material, not a lead vocalist.

And frankly, at this stage, I think it isn't a matter of skill that would get Suisei to the Budokan, it would be how well she's marketed, what calibre of music producers she can get and what kind of training Suisei is given. And given this is Cover we are talking about, I'm not confident on that score to be honest.

>> No.6068890

>>6068847
And to add on to my statement, the corporate connection of Suisei's agency also matter a great deal, which is why 2434 might ironically have been in a better poistion. Hot take - Inui Toko would get to the Budokan before Suisei Hoshiyomi.

>> No.6069446

>>6066482
pretty unlikely in the next 5 years because ww3 soon, Japan,Taiwan and SEA will be the frontline

>> No.6069497

>>6066482
Wasn't Cover doing some shit with Bushiroad? If she licks Aimi's pussy she might be able to reach Budoukan easily, if she doesn't, it will be just a matter of time, effort and marketing.

>> No.6069550

>>6069497


It's all about access anon, it's all about connections and access to buy that time, direct that effort efficiently and have the marketing to make it count. Once you sell 6k on Oricon, growing any further is all about that. It's not Aimi though Suisei needs to please, it's the music producer cliques she's getting involved in right now. She spent her Next Color Planet cred boost on getting the attention of these people.

>> No.6069638

>>6068847
who do you think is the best singer in hololive?

>> No.6069685

>>6068847
It's why she's recruiting/prospecting for all these producers/composers outside of Cover, and it's starting to show with Ghost/Bluerose. The Taku Inoue collaboration for 3:12 is frankly a big deal because this is definitely an IM@S-related play (Inoue used to write for IM@S) and if the song is successful, Inoue can make a strong pitch for Toy's Factory to throw their hand into the ring of labels wooing her for a long-term album deal.

>> No.6069687

>>6066629
But Sora wants to get to Yokohama Arena.

>> No.6069688

>>6069638
Rikka or Azki. Suisei has potential, but she's still very under-developed.

>> No.6069716

>>6069688
huh, I don't know much about singing but I like listening to Suisei more than Azki

>> No.6069724
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6069724

>>6066482
get in line bitch

>> No.6069766

>>6069688
Suisei songs caters to the majority taste very well. AzKi is good at singing at all types and range but for me im not sure is it because of her breathing/way of singing i felt like a certain time she seems to be grasping for air. Marine is also good at anisongs and okayu with her voice.

>> No.6069767

>>6069685
There's probably a critical inflection point here. If 3:12 succeeds, there's likely a realistic chance we'd see Suisei solve her infamous next song problem by permanently partnering with a producer, if she so chooses.

I think she already grasp she cannot rely on Cover for her music career here, she's got to hustle and network outside Cover to even stand a chance of getting to where she wants.

You can tell by what's she's choosing to shill here in her streams - not her incoming 8th of July song, but 3:12 alongside Blue Rose.

>> No.6069854

>>6069716
I also prefer to listen to Suisei over Azki too, but I have to admit Azki's technique is extremely developed and she does emotive singing at a level no-one else in Hololive can.

Suisei is working down a very different path as a vocalist here, but you can tell in her Utas she's doing her reps at chipping away at her areas of improvement. Azki has already been chisseled into her final form (I really cannot conceive how she could get better with the type of singing she has), Suisei is still a rough diamond in the process of being polished.


Risu could go down that route if she does her reps. Gura needs to land herself a network of strong producers (her mixers being so shitty suggest she doesn't have this network) and vocal coaches to truly progress, for all her natural talent. Only Based Moona is seriously doing her reps properly in my opinion.

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6069883

>>6069724
Where's your song in Oricon?

>> No.6069901

>>6069767
>> I think she already grasp she cannot rely on Cover for her music career here, she's got to hustle and network outside Cover to even stand a chance of getting to where she wants.
I get the feeling Mori might have been the catalyst there too. Suisei is starting to put out a lot more music now than she was before (think of the gap between Next Color Planet and Ghost compared to the gap between Ghost and Blue Rose), and seeing Mori just saddle up and make 2 EPs on her own probably made Suisei realize she's got to do it herself as well.

>> No.6069913

>>6069766
Suisei's style is very populist, but that probably also plays a big part in getting the attention of music producers.

Marine is a solid singer, but not the most oustanding, Okayuu has a very charismatic voice albiet limited range, but she literally exudes sensual teture like no one else in Hololive. Nene in my opinion is the one being slept upon though.

That being said, Sora should just reactivate ALICE, that unit is stacked.

>> No.6069992

So who are the Holos who actually want to be idols and are aiming for Budoukan?

Sora, Suisei, Azki, Aqua, Kanata, Nene. Anyone else?

>> No.6070000

>>6069901
Suisei's next song has always been something her fanbase has been asking since Next Color Planet - Pieces probably was supposed to be the follow up, but we know how it ended.

Suisei's response has been that it's out of her hands, and given she can't exactly compose a tune (Kanata can), she's actually right here. Suisei's been networking heavily since middle last year though, so this isn't a sudden development - InuTaku noticed Suisei in December 2020.

>> No.6070160

>>6067566
>can't sing for shit
>can't do entertainment without leeching off someone else.
that's kanata

>> No.6070222

>>6069992
Rushia isn't exactly aiming for the Budokan, but she takes the idol aspect quite seriously, even the singing. I'd put Towa and Flare into the category of being singing focused too. Kanata's aim is to end her music career in a blaze of glory before her ears go.

>> No.6070388

>>6070160
Kanata is one of the better singers in hololive

>> No.6070435

>>6069767
keep dreaming big suityan

>> No.6070933

>>6068744
>You thinking of Gorilla, not psychopath.
>that's kanata
Let's not discuss the fact that she can't sing.
But think about it from the point of being an entertainer.
>Complains about people making flat chest joke instead of embracing about it like kanata embracing the gorilla meme, and even sometimes make the same joke herself
>If you pay attention to collabs, she very often repeat the same sentences other member said, only in a acting cute voice, because she got no character of her own and can only parrot others
She truly is the bottom barrel of entertainers in hololive alongside choco, mel, roboco, etc

>> No.6071024

>>6068890
>Suisei Hoshiyomi.

>> No.6071223

>>6070933
>Complains about people making flat chest joke instead of embracing about it like kanata embracing the gorilla meme, and even sometimes make the same joke herself
>She truly is the bottom barrel of entertainers in hololive alongside choco, mel, roboco, etc
t. I don't watch streams but I'll say things like that to "contribute" or baiter

>> No.6071321

>>6070933
this

>> No.6071796

>>6071321
Nah

>> No.6071986

>>6069550
If we go by this logic, i can see Kamitsubaki will be the first Virtual Talent on Budokan stage.

>> No.6072011

>>6070160

That's Suishit. Fuck off and die

>> No.6072024

>>6066482
She will but first she need to sign a record deal and sold thousands of copy

>> No.6072026

>>6071986
Question on their end is if they could amass enough of an audience to guarantee a sold out Budokan I think. They would probably work their way up smaller arenas first, but the pandemic makes it impossible to truly test the market.

>> No.6072046

>>6072024
She's selling thousands of copies already with Ghost. She needs to sell tens of thousands, 15k-20k probably would do the trick, but whether she can make it there....

>> No.6072053

>>6069992
>Anyone else?
Jesus, Watame says going to the Budoukan in every single stream, how could you miss that?

>> No.6072103

>>6072053
Maybe because she says it in the 6th hour of 11 total?

>> No.6072138

>>6067195
Trust in BIG PLANS

>> No.6072141

>>6072103
She says it all the time, be it at the beginning, in the middle of the stream or at the end. Watch streams instead of shitposting here

>> No.6072164

>>6072046
That's why she need that record deal to shill her domestically, since im pretty sure they care more for domestic sales first

>> No.6072184

>>6069446
Only by the start of the war. Once India and Pakistan get in the game the chinks are in for a bad time in the west.

>> No.6072221

>>6072184
Nobody gives a fuck about poos and pakis

>> No.6072254

>>6066958
Didn't know that Artia performed at the Budoukan.

>> No.6072297

>>6066482
Forget Budoukan, how about the Korakuen Hall?

>> No.6072391

>>6072026
yea, she had to perform in small venue first to test actual public interest. toko already did this.

>> No.6073438

>>6072221
They will once they start invading/liberating Tibet and Turkestan.

>> No.6074326

>>6068890
>>6071024
I laughed.
>>6072053
>>6072103
>>6072138
>>6072141
Nothing against the sheep, but I simply do not have the time to follow her 12hrs a day schedule. Her live singing is beautiful tho. I believe she's going to make it.

by the way, what are the odds Cover would push for a full hololive Budoukan rather than one talent at a time? IF it does happen.

>> No.6074418

>>6072391
What is a small venue? and are you the star of it or just some part of many other talents. A venue not even holding 400 people still means at leat 90 people are looking at you. You have a lot of niji und holo vtubers that did that in the past.

>> No.6074477

>>6074326
If Holo sells out to Bushiroad it's trivial since Bushi already do NJPW at Budokan, just a matter of booking a good schedule.They can probably also tell by how much tickets were sold for Beyond The Stage/Bloom/from1st locally if they can actually get enough Hololive DDs and oshi supporters together to support it

>> No.6074504

>>6074418
KT Yokohama Zepp was where Toko did her sololive - they were able to full the venue at 1K capacity

>> No.6076295

>>6066482
She deserves it, let's make it happen

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