/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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Is there anyone who hates their original character setting as much as Flare?

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>>60180706
So are you just one dedicated flareschizo or are there multiple of you making these threads

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>>60180772
i just hate the fact that we could've had an Olga Discordia for our dark elf but instead we got this self loathing piece of shit

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>>60180706
>no drawing me with a bow
>hololive alternative draws her with a bow anyway

How mad was she?

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>>60180706
Flare seems to hate everything about early to the point it's comical.

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>>60181027
Imagine how mad she must have been when Cover signed off on the Figma

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Rape furea & rape friend

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>hates being an elf, actively tries to hide her knife ears
>hates being brown, constantly tries to bleach her skin
>gets triggered by being called dark elf, calls herself half elf
>hates her OG sex design, gets a rework that barely shows skin
>hates her cool voice, always tries to sing cute songs

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I didn't know elfs had such inferiority complexes

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>>60181507
She is probably ugly and looks like a goblin outside of streams

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>>60181779
For some reason, there isn't a single pureblood elf in hololive. They are all half elves

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>>60181507
>hates her cool voice, always tries to sing cute songs
That's entirely on nips though (rest I agree with, it's dumb autism on her side)
Girls like Flare and Towa don't have cutesy natural voice so nips go "oh no, you're not kawaii" and thus girls have to tune their voices.
After watching very early streams of Flare I was glad to hear that her laugh is natural - it sounds exactly the same when she wasn't using her cute voice yet.

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>>60182009
aki? lamy?

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>>60182009
Because elves should be weird and otherworldly to some in Japan, a half-elf feels like a good compromise between being different and being relatable.

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>>60180706
She’s ruining everything

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>>60182112
Both are half-elves
Aki Elf father, Siren mother
Lamy Human father, Elf mother

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>>60180922
>>60181048
>>60181507
>>60181779
Keep in mind that she had the ugly face in pic related in the beginning, and she looked pretty Chinese as well.
Imagine debuting alongside 4 very good-looking genmates who pop off hard while you get handed a pice of shit design and become the least popular of the gen.

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>>60181507
>hates when someone on the internet describes her exactly how she views herself
it's really no surprise why she's so behind everyone else.

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>>60180706
I watched it and it wasn't not only plainly rejecting any kind of fun fantasy background for her character but also her basically getting mad at people thinking her real life hometown was some sort of shithole village without brand stores and wifi.
Hilarious.

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>>60180706
Flare just wants to have a modern elf world

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>>60182344
Sanner...

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fuck off retard

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>>60182344
She could've leaned into it like Nene or just rolled with the ugly CN esque design like Artia, Flare for the most part is a good girl but I ironically have to side with the schizo sometimes she's a little pushy on her design/lore. I mean show some respect Aki already got the "future elf" lore, I don't think Flare is wrong all elves don't HAVE to be Tolkien tier but hers is because it fits her gens name of FANTASY better as medieval like.

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>>60180772
he's a self-shilling clipper

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>>60182344
Disregarding her face, her current outfit does like something a 40yo woman would use. I'm not complaining if it is something she wants and feel more comfortable with, but that's how it is.

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>>60184436
>her current outfit does like something a 40yo woman would use.
That makes it even better.

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>>60180706
So true sis!

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>>60182109
That's nonesense. It's clearly Flare herself, she fucking loves to show her cute side.

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I don't think you can really call this anything else other than self hatred. It genuinely seems as if she actively hates being seen as a typical fantasy elf, to the point that she has to basically completely destroy all kayfabe.
https://youtu.be/cD3VlR0RLkI

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Why does she hate elves so much anyway? Couldn't she say anything pre-debut?

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>>60180706
they probably bonded over it

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i need a vtuber elf... blond hair, tsundere, flat chest complex, but fat ass and thighs...

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>>60185456
This doesn't even slightly do justice to how borked Irys' og face was.

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>>60182009
>all half elves
is this code for being mixed race

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>>60180706
i enjoy how open she is about it. she doesn't give a shit who knows.

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>>60185894
Mixed species is a step past that

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>>60181779
Because modern elf fiction is all shit, is just superficial Tolkien elf copy number 1737183728, Never anything different or cool
Its surprising that nips made her into such a shit stereotypical elf from a country that grew up with Deedlit n friends to show that they dont have to play into the same tropes every single time

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>>60182344
Yeah haha wouldn't that be crazy...

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>>60181507
i really like this development, you never see this kind of character purposely done anywhere, i don't know if I want her to go through a Subaru arc and admit that after all, she's an elf

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>>60180706
Flare is a cute witch!

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>>60180706
Seeing all the fanarts with bows on holoctober elf day definitely threw her off.
Realizing that all her efforts to make her character as bland as possible have been in vain is going to mindbreak her, I can't wait to see what Kay yu does for her

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>>60185318
Not without losing her golden ticket. Back in those days, they designed the model and hired someone for it, rather than hire the talent and make a model to fit them. If she said she didn't want to be an elf, they'd find someone who would, and probably never contact her again because she's hard to work with. She decided to deal with a model she hated and collect free money rather than give up any chance.

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>>60180706
>flare is a dwarf at heart

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>>60184436
>something a 40yo woman would use
God I love hags

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>>60180706
>get chance to visually redefine your character and identity
>do this

i hate casual outfits

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>>60193764
She will shoot her arrow, and she will like it

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>>60198562
the dress is fine, the problem is everything over it

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>>60193764
She's definitely getting some dumbshit, like throwing her blue hair bow.
No way he's making her the gun character in the same gen as a fucking pirate.

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>>60180922
she's a half elf you dumb nigger

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>>60181185
Figures are signed off by the talents

>>60181027
Her issue isn’t the bow it’s the expectations that an elf should use bows. She’s not the only elf but she’s the only one that gets attached to what she feels are elf stereotypes. That and being dark

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>>60198562
>A posing

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>>60180706
It's very much a common feeling.
There are hundreds of chuuba that rebrand, get their original redesigned because they just can't stand anymore their original "lore".
Especially if the original design is related to PTSD from a shit corpo debut

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>>60185215
>It genuinely seems as if she actively hates being seen as a typical fantasy elf, to the point that she has to basically completely destroy all kayfabe.
On the other hand, the idea that a bunch of elves just moved to Japan some time ago and naturalized enough over time that their presence is perfectly normal is unique.

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>>60198562
Casual outfit makes it better for Shiraken anon.

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>>60185215
Just seems like she's having fun with it to me.

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>>60193764
I see two options
either he cares about it and he'll make her a cute pyromancer and rework kiara to make them less similar
or he doesn't and gives her bow and magic
Kay has made characters with bias to Holos that care about the game, and Flare didn't even stream the steam update at all, in fact she streamed the game exactly once back in 0.4 when the initial hype for it happened
0.7 is going to be a shitshow either way with Rushia now that he closed off the route to avoid Sankisei by putting in Pekora's casino so he might feel like that drama will cover up other stuff

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>>60199687
>No way he's making her the gun character in the same gen as a fucking pirate.
We already we have 3 characters with guns, 3 characters with swords (and at least one more guaranteed in the future), and 2 characters who throw feathers. He'll find a way to make her distinct.

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>>60210193
Making her distinct is easy, the real challenge is to not trigger her self-image autism

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>>60180706
Sana hated being brown so much she graduated

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>>60212218
she's a no vote for sure

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>>60181507
>cute songs
tf are on about?

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>>60185215
Pele detected
Please learn what banter means

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>>60185894
No, that's just IRyS with the half angel (JP), half devil (western).

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>>60213725
-Kun to Smile& Go!!

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>>60213725
her original song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4PT1phuM9M&ab_channel=FlareCh.%E4%B8%8D%E7%9F%A5%E7%81%AB%E3%83%95%E3%83%AC%E3%82%A2

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>>60198562
This can't be real, right?

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>>60198562
I stopped watching costume reveals when they started spamming casual clothing and they all started dressing like jirai kei menheras

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she just takes after her mother, a actual dark elf who hated her culture so much she jumped on the nearest human dick. so instead of dark grey, flare came out almost normal.

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>>60214128
Oh, and I forgot the cat ear spam

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>>60180706
Total Elf Forest Death

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>>60180706
is it because elves are usually nothing more than pointy eared onaholes in japanese media or because she's brown?

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>>60204030
Her other half is me btw. I am her father. Stop bullying my daughter.

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>>60214128
look, this is my new hoodie outfit!!!

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If you can't speak JP you shouldn't be allowed to make threads about them

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>>60216199
The hoodie ones are clearly a merch focused costume

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>>60214128
This problem could be solved by letting the artist decide on the theme, rather than the talent.
Most of the girls are just living and streaming on autopilot, with no interesting projects in sight, just milking superchat and taking the safest choice everytime. You only have to read flare's sub account for 5 minutes to see that hololive is making her miserable (someone please put a baby in her belly before it's too late...)

>>60216322
kusa

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>>60180706
can /vt/ redesign Flare in a way that please her yet still somewhat similar to her original iconic design?

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>>60182344
Why she did not graduate after seeing her own avatar Hmmm...

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>>60182344
>Fake voice, shit live2d, forced yuri, bilibili streams, barely any subs
2019 holo was a wild time lmao

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>>60180706
graduation

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I legit feel bad about the developer of her Megaman game. Man still updates it but she won't even acknowledge it. I'm glad I was never exposed to her back in 2020

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>>60193764
>>60209462
>>60199687
>>60210193
Couldn't she use a spear?

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>>60198562
If she takes off the Pippa jacket it looks good.

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>>60180706
God Flare is so hot

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>>60218414
Why would she use a spear? There's no link to her lore or any meme/stream ref

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>>60218715
Nta, but Flare's weapon of choice in many games is a Glaive, which may have been what he was referring to. She played Insect Glaive in MoHun, use glaives in all her Souls runs etc.

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>>60199575
its almost as bad. it's the coloring, both the dress and the jacket are just bland

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>>60218073
Yeah that really wasn't cool. NuiNui is one of the higher tier fan games too.

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>>60180706
flare may be the funniest vtuber of all time

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>>60218073
She said it looked good but she couldn't stream it due to perms issues iirc. Calli got them later tho so it's probably a jp management decision

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>>60219750
What perm issues you retard. From the fan game developer that would die for her to play it? From Cover themselves?

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>>60223791
Cover needs actual real permissions, twitter DMs don't count. If you don't have a real business email directly connected to your game it ain't getting played.

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>>60182009
It is so the Nipponese don't have to feel inferior to what would be the purest white race

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>>60182112
Lamy has a half-elf mom, full elf dad.

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>>60193764
ywabare

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I want a dwarf chuba

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>>60182344
i dont get why people say its ugly

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>>60224016
fuckn japs

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>>60218073
Link?

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>>60180706
JP elves would look so much better without the ears going out sideways.

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>>60180706
iRyS is a close second.
Anya's oppailoli third

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Her gimmick of being an Elf hipster/contrarian is extremely fucking funny and creative and I love her for it.

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>>60180772
Not a Flareschizo but she's a huge example of wasted potential.
People want Flare to be the cool and sexy, but she wanted to be cute and went with it regardless. Except the reason why Flare was hired by Hololive WAS her cool and sexy image. Her model is easily the most SEX out of the GOLDEN GENERATION of the MOST WELL KNOWN vtuber company. She could easily gain more success if she played her exotic coombait character properly (not good on its own, but it's better than nothing). Rejecting and stubbornly trying to change was a big mistake, now she's permanently stuck in a well endowed brown model that goes against her preferred aesthetic in an industry where people tried to match their avatar.
>Cunnies mog her in cuteness
>Other hags mog her in maturity
>The snow elf mogs her in GFE
>Her own genmates mog her in humor
>Fucking Kanata mogs her in tsukkomi
But wait, there's more!
>Wants to be seen as cute badly but breaks character too often when playing games
>Refuses to be the butt of the joke when bantering
>Pathetically unfunny bits like "I like loli!" or "I have ADHD and I'm angry!"
>Wet blankets any ship or collab partner by being prude
>Continuously using ugly chibi fanart from that one artist for her thumbnails
>Hard to schedule collabs with because of her secondary job
>Nothing to say in zatsudans, rarely shares anything about her private life, gachikois know nothing about her after watching for so long
>Refuses among us collabs because it hurts her feewings. Same with rust initially.
>Ruined Shiraken by recruiting too many members, also by being deadweight outside block game
So on so forth. By their own these are all salvageable, together they make a trash heap

So what does Flare have going for her?
>One of the best endurance singers in Hololive
but her singing voice and song choices are not exceptional... except with songs that could actually make use of her cool voice like Kaibutsu or Ussewa and not fucking Kokoro Odoro again
>Very feminine: Really kind to other holomem, smells nice, likes to recommend good beauty products
but none of that translates well to a good experience for an average viewer
>Good sense of architecture for a holo
but doesn't show it outside of block game and animal crossing.
>Barrage of orisongs on her latest concert
but all of them are bland and forgettable. No personality trait or lore gimmick to market. And where's the album?

I used to endure watching her for months. She's adjacent to a lot of holomem I like so I really want to like her too. But the more I watch the more of her flaws are exposed, the more I feel like I'm robbed from the full experience. She's an underdog without the underdog appeal. These days I don't bother watching her outside collabs.
Everything that went wrong with her is her own doing. And just like the broken MTL english in her outro, it will likely never be fixed. If Hololive didnt grow big she would have graduated by now. おつfuckingぬい.

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>>60227419
We already have a dwarf chuuba

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>>60180706
Doesn't Subaru also kinda hate her how her original character was?

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>>60193772
they still do that, the only special cases are probably fuwamoco and suisei

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>>60232598
Damn. Nice effortpost. Basically sums up my feelings as well. The part that really stood out to me is how you pointed out that her fans don't know much about it.

It's true - despite how many years she's been in hololive nobody knows anything about her at all. It's kind of amazing.

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>>60185456
Irys is a self-hating skin bleaching asian
Flare is a self-hating skin bleaching asian who would be a super annoying bitch talking about how white men need to die while also fucking a white guy in college

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>>60180706
It's surprising that she's stayed in hololive so long with a model she hates

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we need a brown holo that recognizes how sexy the brownness is

[Anonymous No.]

I've got mixed feelings in Flare.
I know that she has a lot of hardcore fans, but she's a weird person and can seem abrasive sometimes.
I used to watch her Minecraft streams with Polka, they were incredibly comfy. Sadly Micomet and Shiraken ruined everything.

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>>60183332
Sanana had a great design. It's clock whose design blows.

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>>60188085
most jp-made elf characters are deedlit clones, so...

[Anonymous No.]

Darling stop making these threads~

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>>60193772
>while her partner basically got a self-insert

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>>60212218
>spouting bullshit
Meds or leads

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>>60216538
Holy meds

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>>60180706
i mean it's bound to happen
question is which ?

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>>60240728
Fuck off faggot

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>>60216538
>(someone please put a baby in her belly before it's too late...)
You're really twisting my arm here, but I'll do it.

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Flare and some slut

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>>60232598
>Not a Flareschizo but
>schizo essay

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>>60232598
she has a secondary job?

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>>60232598
>She could easily gain more success if she played her exotic coombait character properly
Cover forcing Hololive talents into the lewd vtuber role causes huge fights over redesigns that go on for years. Ina was acting like she was thinking of graduation for most of 2022. Kronii might be thinking of moving to VShojo. Hololive talents not having any control over their Live2D model is why Flare had so many problems. Instead of blaming talents for not liking their design wouldn't it be more reasonable to blame the corpo for not giving them any choice?

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>>60232598
Ok, I agree with whatever things I knew before, but…
>Ruined Shiraken by recruiting too many members, also by being deadweight outside block game
I don't think the way she interacts with her middle school Minecraft club is really comparable to the rest

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>>60232598
You're a faggot

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>>60232598
Honestly I could look past all of these, but her absolute apathy during the Rushia termination statement made me really not care for her

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>>60204030
>halfbreeds are usually self hating
>flare is self hating
DEEPEST LORE

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>>60198562
XD

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Fuutan kawaii

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>>60244466
The fuck are you even talking about? Have you seen her alts? Have you seen Polka's alts? Holos have some of the most prude, gandma outfits in the whole scene.
Only freedom they lack is being able to completely change the defining features of their models on a whim, which thank god they can't.