Cover IPO

[Anonymous No.]

Now that Cover is going public should the fans just funnel all their superchat money into the stock so the fucking awful management can be cleared out?

[Anonymous No.]

How much of the company would I need to own to fuck my oshi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005909
At least 10%

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
>cover going public
God I wish I had a cold million dollars in my pocket so I can legally invest in it early.
being a legal slave blows ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
How much of the company would I need to own to get one of these at retail price?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
I'd put every cent of my disposable income into it if it meant every single worthless middle manager cunt blocking Holo projects is immediately fired

[Anonymous No.]

Proof? You can't just outright say they're going public without an evidence. How can I hate cover even more without looking like a complete retard?
>Objective truth
Not evidence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6007098
I'm pretty sure Ichikara and Cover have both put out advertisements for job positions that state that as part of the roll you will be helping them prepare for an upcoming IPO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
german soccer club model
LETS GOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
If this is serious, and Cover actually wanted to IPO, depending on the cap, how much of the company is sold, and what the voting rights on the shares are, you might be able to get enough individual investors to buy in and get on the same page to install an amicable board of directors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
The idiot making bait threads of other chuubas all night knows that that didn't work and moved on to a company instead. Dude, kys or go outside and socialize

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
You mean letting chink and kike investors in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6008655
Please post the job listing for that "roll," ESLchama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6009200
NTA but here: https://herp.careers/v1/cover/TSPFAcmTqtFt
>・IPOにともなうデータ収集/資料作成

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
This is it, whenever a company is going IPO, they would become profitable and at the same time become shitty. This will put the last nail in the Hololive coffin. They will survive but they will not be as interesting as it is now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6008950
>All of /vt/ is one person

[Anonymous No.]

>>6009014
Thats why the fans need to buy stock and form a significant activist shareholder bloc

[Anonymous No.]

they will get better 3D so Im ok with this, also I would buy some too

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
>the fucking awful management
You don't know what awful management is. Every company that becomes publicly traded has a board of directors infested with people who have no fucking clue what their company even does. They make absurd demands and have no idea what they're doing.

I've been trying to figure out why Yagoo & Company would do this since they have a license to print money as-is. I have a couple of ideas, but none are appropriate to share on a public imageboard. The only thing I care about in this equation is my oshi being safe and happy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6009508
American companies on the whole are much better run than Japanese companies. That's not to say there aren't still a whole lot of incompetents throughout the corporate hierarchy in the US but incompetence is basically the defining feature of Japanese corporate governance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6009425
yes

[Anonymous No.]

China buy Cover
China win
Aqua come back
We love Aqua
Fire Fubuki
Fubuki a traitor

[Anonymous No.]

>>6009348
We will see how bad the talent flux becomes

[Anonymous No.]

If they go ahead with this, this can end finally killing the soul of Hololive and they didn't have that much left. Instead of horrible management but sometimes in favor of the talents you get a bunch of investors that couldn't care less about them (and have no idea of the business) and will definitely try to restrict the talent to some specific planned kind of stuff and numberfag like you have never seen before.
Expect more proportion of sponsor streams, more merch and brand collabo shilling, more shitty gachas and FOTM games (yes, more than even now) and more cash-grab concerts from talents that have even less time to stream.

>>6009508
Come ooon, don't leave us like this. Why they aren't appropiate to share here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
https://pitchbook.com/profiles/company/434949-67#overview

So how are they doing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6009896
Reminder that, if FBK goes out alas Aloe style with next to no public reason, this means COVER has pretty much fucked up
>Aqua come back
The moment the pressure of more genmates leaving hits her, she will graduate too, your Oshi is not safe from mental breaks bugnon

[Anonymous No.]

Scenario 1:
>fans invest
>most of which are from reddit
>force the holos to talk about blm and trannies
Scenario 2:
>zhangs out invest the fans
>haachama and fbk fired
>holos forced to play chink gacha for eternity
Pick your poison.

[Anonymous No.]

the fuck does any of this nerd shit mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>6009582
>American companies on the whole are much better run
Maybe if you think rolling over to public pressure and attempting to buy goodwill by pandering to morons is "better." I really hope this is all just an elaborate troll and I'm just getting rused.
>>6009989
>Come ooon, don't leave us like this.
Until I know for a fact this is happening I'm not going to share assumptions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6009896
Do you ever run bussiness on your life?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010049
>Maybe if you think rolling over to public pressure
Cover made two of their biggest talents do a naked dogeza because of a dozen twitter trannies...
If your criticism is that American companies bow to public pressure then it's 10x worse for Japanese companies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010047
It means you're retarded, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
post it again when it actually happens until then this is a waste of time

[Anonymous No.]

>>6009425
You think "All me" is a fucking game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010049
Jap companies are dominated by old fuddy duddies hell bent on sticking to the old tried and true. Innovation and adaptation is sacrificed in exchange for stagnation. In the tech sector especially, Japan is starting to fall behind Taiwan and South Korea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010045
Pretty sure that after the Taiwan incident, investing in Hololive from China will get your social score lowered and a later but sure knock on the door, and it's not your Oshi coming to visit you IRL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010178
yes, for example a lot of japan websites still utilizing html tables, a fucking tech from the 90s

[Jeff Bezos No.]

how much is this company worth

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010223
By zhangs I don't mean nga schizos, I mean actual zhang corporations

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010045
Scenario 3:
>Hololive talents start to leave
>instead of the expensive audition process and developing new characters, the company resorts to the old hiring practices to replace talents to continue existing characters

Example: Fubuki leaves. Someone else comes in to continue as Fubuki.

[Jeff Bezos No.]

>>6010307
kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010276
Around $50 million

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010331
What? Do you have any idea how corporate works?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
Oh no! They're going to be bought by China right away!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010276
someone make a joke about bezos being cucked I can't be bothered

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010307
nah, this is beyond stupid, try again

[Anonymous No.]

I'm having trouble comprehending why people here are against IPOs when the stock market was what made the American economy the undisputed global juggernaut that it is in the first place. Capitalism is one of the brightest ideas that ever came to man and drove much of humanity's progress in the last 100 years, there would be far less innovation without the promise of profit. Maybe this board really is overrun by commie chinks after all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010223
>Investing in Hololive from China will get your social score lowered
Do you know that anyone shitposting about Hololive on the internet will get a warning letter from the China cyberpolice?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
Considering this, maybe Coco left at a pretty good time

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
Thanks for the awareness thread but keep it for when it becomes official, we might be able to strike a deal with /biz/ if that day comes
>TFW a bunch of autists and zoomers control a good portion of the stuck of a company about anime girls doing cute things on-stream
>TFW Chinese might also own a portion but might not actually be able to do shit without getting their social score cut in half for making deals with a company which pulled out of China in favor of avoiding more BS.
>TFW rich EN speakers from all kinds are going to rush to buy as much as they can to get more control over this
This might not end well in retrospective holy hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010331
>>6010391
You children are naive

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010414
If the Hololive fandom was organized they'd start up a holding company to pool their funds and get a big enough stake to put someone on the board and make sure no serious retardation occurs

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
Reddit owns most of Gamestop and Amc and they still have no control over what the companies say or do. In fact, not to long ago Amc just took 2 giant dumps on their investors with dilution and offerings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010447
nah you are just too retard anon

[Anonymous No.]

hololive is changing
i don't like it
why couldn't it just stay the way it was

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010276
Potentially as much as Google and Amazon combined.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
Reddit owns most of Gamestop and Amc and they still have no control over what the companies say or do. In fact, not too long ago Amc took 2 giant dumps on their investors with dilution and offerings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
>>6007098
>>6008655
>>6008787
>>6009200
They haven't officially declared a change to IPO, simply that they are doing research into the prospect. There was already a discussion about this here back in April.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010560
>>Reddit owns most of Gamestop and Amc
No they don't. They're not even close to having a controlling share in either company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005909
I don't know if you're aware, but that is highly illegal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010572
call me when I can actually buy

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010481
Cry more child. As much as that scenario sucks, corporate would do it, if they have to resort to it. It's all about the bottom line.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005909
1% and you can call on anyone

[Anonymous No.]

我欢迎即将到来的中国投资者,因为现在已经摆脱了reddit dragon。

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010639
>Call me when its too late to do anything and the chinks already own 51% of it

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010560
Did you just fucking delete and redo your entire post because of a single letter typo?

[Anonymous No.]

WHY THE FUCK WON'T YOU FAGGOT NERDS EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THE FUCK AN IPO IS

[Anonymous No.]

I hope based Notch buys cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010640
take your meds schizo, that happened before and everyone saw how bad it ended, no company that wants money will make the same mistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010690
yeah yeah, chinks live rent free in your head, I know

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010702
It means a company has started selling shares on a public stock market.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010702
Impure Penis Obsession

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
>>6010572
So a whole lot of nothing? Go have fun with your retarded takes I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010702
Educate yourself dumbfuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010702
Initial Public Offering. It's when a company goes from being privately owned to being able to be traded on a stock exchange, so members of the public can buy shares and own a portion of the company. Cover so far has only been getting capital from private investors, so it has a few institutional investors as owners already

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010447
And you're an old retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010461
Dude look, Tencet probably makes more in a months profit then all of the revenue Cover has made in its entire history, that is probably not going to happen. and if I were Xi I'd give them the go-ahead to buy out cover even if it would bankrupt them because imagine the power move of taking a company that "recognized" Taiwans independence buying them out and throughly crushing them with no remorse its probably worth like $50 million or so

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010815
>it has a few institutional investors as owners already
Big names with a lot of money

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010702
Idiot Pekora Ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010560
> Reddit owns most of Gamestop

Lol, where the fuck did you get that from. Look at this:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/GME/holders?p=GME

Approximately 20% is held by insiders, and 40% is held by institutions that have to declare their stake publicly. This is ignoring other entities like family offices. I _seriously_ doubt there's even a double digit stake in GME (and probably the same for AMC) held by ledditors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010692
Couldn't risk getting called an ESL seanigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005966
I have one, so maybe if you suck my dick I can be generous anon-kun

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010045
Early IPO probably from Scenario 1 however, I doubt fans invest going for the long run. Later cooperate Zhangs kick in and try to shape Cover in the long run.

>>6010307
Is this Kizuna Ai VA swap?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010702
No one is gonna spoonfeed you, you financially illiterate fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6009425
Well, tell the other people to stop raiding the board with stupid bait and drama and go back to wherever the fuck you came from. But this one seems to have worked, I'll give you that, people are stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
>cover goes public
>investors demmand more and more returns
>ridiculous new territories join hololive such as antartica, gobi, sealand, south sudan and ISIS
>oshis are either worked to death or lose their love for streaming and fall into mediocrity
>vtubing dies as a whole

[Anonymous No.]

>>6011173
Imagine superchat and new subscriber quotas for the talents, creating an increasing stressful environment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6011302
How would that be different from the numberfagging we got here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6011371
The numberfagging here is beyond irrelevant. Quotas would be added and unnecessary pressure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6011173
>they double down as streams go more and more extreme
>it's so extreme that it reaches trending

based

[Anonymous No.]

>>6011173
>vtubing dies as a whole
absolutly retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>6011302
>subaru would be the only one left
>one stream is just her talking then being quite for 8 hours
>hear a door open and hear her dad shouting and panicking then the stream ends

[Anonymous No.]

I didn't see this before but to make it more clear that idiots are trying to raid the board
>88 replies
>42 posters

[Anonymous No.]

>>6011541
>You can only reply to a thread once or its raiding
People respond multiple times to have a discussion, retardchama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6011541
anon this entire board is just one continuous raid

[Anonymous No.]

>>6011173
>vtubing dies as a whole
Impossible because of indies and other groups

[Anonymous No.]

>>6011541
Fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010408
It's also the thing that ended up with America in state it is in right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
when did they announce this? what the hell?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6011173
>Professional numberfagging becomes a thing
I would off myself on the spot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010572
Going public helped ruin the WWE, I see Coco saw the writing on the wall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6011588
>calls you a raider
>refuses to elaborate
>leaves and never posts again

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010408
Public trading is the worst thing you can do as an entertainment company. A lot of it will culminate in public pressure forcing your PR decisions and investors breathing down your neck because you might end up tanking their investments.

Publicly trading your stock is only ever good if what you do has nothing to do with public opinion, like infrastrucre services not related to the entertainment sector, because those are, in general universly accepted (or at least tolerated) and normally won't have to deal with PR disasters unless they go out of their way fuck up that bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010408
yes anon, cover is clearly an american company with american culture

[Anonymous No.]

>>6011588
Sure, you can but, is not a little suspicious that coincidentally this thread has that ratio of posters/replies after hours of posts that are low hanging fruit baits? Go back to where you came from and take your friends with you

[Anonymous No.]

Guys I'm scared. I won't allow anyone to own more Cover stock than Fubuki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6011827
How about you go fuck yourself you worthless reddit nigger? Hows that sound?

[Anonymous No.]

That's odd, this suggests that the talent are not actually employees, but independent contractors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6011894
Ah yes, insults. That'll help, sure

[Anonymous No.]

>>6011681
You mean the strongest nation in the world with no peer rival and the distant second place rapidly self-destructing because it doesn't understand capitalism like America does?
>>6011775
Ah yes because Disney is so unsuccessful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6011961
They are most likely something in-between, streaming as a "corporate" job is a sector full of "loopholes" legally speaking, you also have to add Japanese old as fuck and non-flexible laws and you got a BIG fucking problem when trying to list people as employees.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6012258
If the pitchbook page is up to date, they officially have only 4 employees.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010307
Nobody in this industry would be dumb enough to pull another Gamebu incident again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6012546
Let's hope not

[Anonymous No.]

>>6012100
Disney is the posterchild of being the most cucked entertainment company in the world. They have the most valuable brands and have run them all into the ground either by submitting to NPC mentality in the west with critical theory or Chicom cuckery in the east with pro China political propaganda.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that this post was made by people raiding the board, nothing here is worthy of discussion

[Anonymous No.]

>>6012779
>run into the ground
They're still spreading American culture worldwide while making more money than you can ever imagine. That's a success by any metric. You sound like a delusional, bitter communist who can't handle the fact that every communist country including the chinks have failed to export their culture globally unlike the US.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010049
Japan used to be quite innovative in tech, but their best years are clearly behind them in that sector, it’s just undeniable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6012802
Who do you think is raiding /vt/ other than endless swarms of reddit niggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>6012866
You're wrong in one thing, the chinks have managed to export their pay to win soulless games (Genshin Impact)

[Anonymous No.]

not /vt/
>>>/biz/

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
>Cover is going public
if this ever happens, Hololive will unironically die. I've seen too many promising private companies go public looking for a quick payout, only for suits that don't know anything about the market to come in and run the whole thing into the ground.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6013017
I don't know. Bored Discord teenagers? I have no fucking clue why would some people raid the board with multiple bait posts

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
>so the fucking awful management can be cleared out?
You think this is a path to thinning out management, SUPER BIG KUSA

[Anonymous No.]

>>6013736
It's a real shame when it happens. When I was a kid my parents took me to some privately owned condo time shares in Florida every summer. The year they went public everything went to shit and the company became money grubbing assholes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6009508
IPOs for meme companies like Cover are solely to give early investors a nice payday as they dump their bags on retards. Maybe down the line there will be a shady reverse merger with some chink front, who knows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010976
I would actually do this desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
>Cover going public
Well gone are the days of their primed the company is fucked. WWE became shit after they became a publicly traded company. This is never a good thing to do now it’s going to be family friendly content. No wonder Coco left, is this why she’s going to VShojo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010408
The stock market created the global finanicial elite who run the world and suck off most of the money people make into their own bank accounts where it sits there and does nothing while everything else goes to shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010045
>force the holos to talk about blm and trannies
This is the most likely scenario and it’s fucking over. Which group do I even follow when it comes to this which it eventually will

[Anonymous No.]

>>6014129
Nah, if we are lucky, they are going to get "majority bought" by some other even more bothersome JP company like Sentai or Namco, worst case scenario is that some media content creator subsidiary from the US buys them, or worse, they get bought by an actual 100% corpo subsidiary which knows jackshit about streaming, let alone VTubbing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6014406
Honestly I can see Bushiroad buying them out that’s a likely scenario if they wanna get into the Vtuber scene since they’re already in everything else

[Anonymous No.]

>>6009896
Question. Can a Japanese corporation, which primarily operates in japan be controlled by a chinese individual/corporation. Isn't there a rule against that? And I think if you want to be a BOD, you need to be a resident of Japan. No idea if you need to be a citizen also. I guess for Key roles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6011961
so hololive really is the wwe of vtubers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6014509
>Isn't there a rule against that?
Lol, no

[Anonymous No.]

>>6014406
no, worst case scenario would be some investment firm doing a leveraged buyout of them, making hololive unbearable shit for a year, and then declaring bankruptcy and selling off all it's assets when they're done milking it for all it's worth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6014509
There's no rule against it but considering COVER had a big fucking NONONO with China, pretty sure having any stock from it will affect your social credit as a chinese citizen, heck, you might even get visited by the police as to why do you part of a company which gave its back to the country and therefore, the state, that's also implying you have the connections and money to slog through the burocratic apparatus of the country to get a good share of said stock, otherwise you are just risking your liberties in an already fairly authoritarian country for absolutely no reason whatsoever other than a memestock.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6011961
>>6014551
Don't know if that's true, but for some employers that can be more convenient because of workers' benefits and taxation laws. For example, in America independent sub-contractors aren't entitled to things like health insurance even if they work full time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6014509
No. Being public literally mean the public, anyone can get a hand on it

[Anonymous No.]

>>6014766
There are usually a selection of criteria that need to be met for someone to be a legitimate contractor and not an employee though. Contractors need a certain level of agency over how they perform their work, otherwise they're defacto employees. The girls probably count as contractors as long as they can choose how and when they stream, but I don't know how the managers could be classified as contractors given they probably report directly to upper management and are directed by them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6014713
THIS. I'd rather some big entertainment corpo like sony, square enix or toy's factory buy them than those nasty investment firm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6010408
>there would be far less innovation without the promise of profit
False take, created by Capitalist propaganda. Innovation never comes from suits in a boardroom. It comes from those obsessed with curiosity, in an environment unrestricted by fearful stockholders who only want safe money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6015144
So whats the incentive for me to financially support these curious individuals so they can innovate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6015231
Without innovation your assets will never grow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6015231
The incentive to invest money is to often make more money. However, throwing a pile of money at someone and demanding "innovation and creativity" doesn't guarantee you anything. Look at Marvel movies, they are the definition of "safe." Curiosity is what often leads to innovation but you can't buy curiosity. As such, innovation cannot be bought or sold.

[Anonymous No.]

>Stockholders mean anyone can buy enough and then choke slam the company and force them to do what they want
also Motoaki Tanigo could get taken out as ceo. how would he continue to interact with his holostar boys if he gets booted? :( it’s a sad idea

[Anonymous No.]

>>6006000
in b4 its none voting stock and fans have no power.
I'd love to be proven wrong tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6015443
Yeah but I can just let someone else eat the cost of development and then reap the rewards once they're implemented in products. What's the incentive for anyone to actually provide the resources required for innovation?

>>6015485
Innovation can't happen without someone providing the resources needed to innovate and if there's no possibility of generating a return then no-one will provide it. Simple as that. The fact that some investments will turn out to be duds just reinforces the fact that anyone providing money to someone creating a new product will want a return that matches the risk they're taking on by accepting the possibility they might just lose their money entirely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6015231
Innovation existed before money. Why does money now need to be tied to innovation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6015573
>Why does money now need to be tied to innovation?
Because modern society rejected the idea of ethnostates and thus has become a big prisoners game where every subgroup is looking to leech the most out of society while providing as little return as possible. Money is the carrot on a stick that provides the incentive for subgroups to provide something of value that all society can benefit from.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6015573
Because innovation requires resources, both human and otherwise, and those cost money in the modern world (for humans because they need money to keep living, and other resources because most of the time you can build the stuff you need to start making a siginificant innovation out of thin air, so at the very least you'll need raw materials)

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
Lol yeah pay them more, will definitely solve all the problems

[Anonymous No.]

>>6015547
>if there's no possibility of generating a return then no-one will provide it
We wiped out small pox and polio because the innovators who made the respective cures felt that money should play no part in curing the sick. 4 students received funding from their university to discover jet fuel, with no expectation of return of investment. There are numerous examples throughout time that disprove the Capitalist propaganda that innovation and profit are linked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6011756
Yet it still here

[Anonymous No.]

>>6015713
>Capitalist propaganda
I'm the guy that replied to him about innovation. You're never going to convince an investor about anything with nomenclature like that. They're interested in profit maximization and capital gains. You hit them with "capitalist propaganda" they're just going to roll their eyes at you.

Fact of the matter is that investors are looking to put their money into an innovative venture they can not create for themselves. The Entrepreneur seeks capital, so they sell stock to investors. The investor is looking for a return on that investment, but in the effort of pursuing that return they can very easily stifle their investment. This is especially true where performers, art, and creativity are involved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6015713
There's already a mechanism for people who want to fund research for no return, they're called charities. Also get off the Marxism, if you dislike Capitalism then read Rerum Novarum and become Catholic. None of that socialist cringe please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6014979
you realize square enix is one of the most censorious companies in existence and would kill them right?
their ethics board is the nightmare abomination version of the complaince board that's killing hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>6016058
There's also universities and other education focused institutions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6016202
>reading comprehension

[Anonymous No.]

>>6015655
This is true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6015573
>Why does money now need to be tied to innovation?
>Why does money now

It always has been the case.

Did you think Christopher Columbus just took a bunch of ships and sailed across the Atlantic? He had to get financial backing for that.

Cover Corp. itself needed money to get even started.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
>just funnel all their superchat money into the stock
>so the fucking awful management can be cleared out
No. That'd just makes them richer and imply they're doing a good job. They can also dilute the stock because stocks are literally shitcoins except with market hours and unsettled funds crippling retail's ability to adapt to changing market conditions faster than well capitalized hedge funds.

Chang is smarter than you. That's why he won against Coco. He realizes that you can't change a company's corporate structure if they don't want to change, and most japanese companies are run by good old men. The only thing you can do is buy the stock/calls and hope number goes up, or try to get a mass shorting of the stock to take place in hopes of gamestopping the company's operations.

Enjoy the rollercoaster as every surprise graduations announcement crashes your investment. Hope none of you buy in at the top.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6015901
Ruins tend to stay for a long time yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>6005879
>Cover is going public
it's over

this is going to result in investors trying to make the vtubers be bland/generic to get wider appeal because they're greedy

this will in turn backfire because investors don't know jack shit about vtuber audiences

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>>6010572
As much as I enjoy hololive as someone who does quite a bit of investing I really don't see this paying out in 5-10 years if they did go public.

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>>6014979

Which is why Bushiroad buyout is one of the best case scenarios - these guys absolutely know how to run a multi-media idol project (those things are a very significant part of their bottomline) , actually have a far superior merch game than whatever the hell Cover has, and likely is the buyout that's unlikely to produce a walkout cascade (I suspect FBK has already been bought by them). Yes, they will go the whole nine inches in monetizing Cover, but Cover has been repeatedly criticized for being pants on heads terribad at monetizing their audience with their awful merch game.

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>>6014979
>Square Enix buys Cover
>the music-oriented holos get integrated into GEMS COMPANY
>everyone else gets axed

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>>6010702
Google exists

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>>6010408
Profit always comes at the cost of SOVL.

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>>6012100
Tanking one of the biggest franchises in the world hardly counts as succesful.

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Nice, time to dust off my three stage discounted dividends valuation spreadsheet

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>>6016058
That's the thing though, capitalism invades literally everything. Even charities become corrupted by capitalism and end up functioning as for profit organisations, with in some cases as little as 10% of the money they earn actually going towards the causes they're working for.

Not the anon you're replying to but please consider that there are plenty of anti capitalist ideologies that aren't Marxist. Not everyone who thinks letting greedy suits run our society is a tankie
t.Georgist

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>>6005879
ITS. FUCKING. OVER

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>>6010702
Indoor Pekora Orgy. It's worth every cent.

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>>6015517
He would debut as another Star

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>>6009896
And none of you will care as far cunny shark is still on the roster. Isn't that right /vt/?

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>>6010391
don't understimate how dumb are japanese salarymen

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>>6011775
The big K-Pop companies all have a chunk of shares publicly traded, this isn't new. Most of their holdings are still with institutions.

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>>6005879
>yfw chinese buys all of it

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>>6010763
Chinese are a fucking poison that ruins everything they touch. What you going on about rent free?

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>>6019271
Only way it would pay out is if they managed to build a Vocaloid-style platform/marketplace for VTuber avatars

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>>6015713
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blah blah commie dribble kill urself out of my muhrica or BUY SHITCOIN

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>>6005879
If only my trading app allowed for japanese market trading.

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>>6005879
if they do this cover is doomed. basically letting all the chinese and j*wish investors in and ruin the company with censorship and SJW pandering

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>>6016058
>charities
>he doesn't know

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>>6005879
That's not how a IPO works anon.
All they are doing is listing the existing privately held shares on the market with a little bit of new shares being issued. The point of a IPO is for the initial investors to list a company at the right time to use the hype to bump up the share value. This way the initial share holders can sell off a small portion of their shares to recoup their investment costs while being left with the majority of the now more valuable shares in their portfolio. Usually with new shares being issued as B shares and don't give the new holder any voting rights as opposed to the original A share holders who actually still control a majority stake in the company.
>Learn to play the game or your just going to get played.

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I don't think Cover is big enough for an IPO yet.

Maybe in 4 to 7 years.
I've never seen what's basically a TV show do an IPO. If they're offering the technology, it's a bit gimicky and basic. They need more substance.

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If enough of us band together, /vt/ can buy and own 51% of the shares.

>Cover will answer to US.
>We own the chubas

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>>6041261
not even close, people ITT don't know how much work and restructuring it takes to go public. isn't cover's funding at 8.7M? that's fucking nothing, the prospectus would probably be dismal

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>he bought?

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>>6041335
>we own the chubas
Orgies when?