Why does Ame want to learn korean?

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Does she have a big KR audience? For Ina? For Kpop? I don't see the reason why would she even stream it

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>>5936937
For Nabi collabs, maybe?

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To play korean games, but of couse.

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So she can communicate with Ina.

[Anonymous No.]

Who cares. We are getting spic paladins. VAMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS

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>>5936968
Ow that's reasonable

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Ollie is doing KR duolingo too. HoloKR announcement imminent?

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>>5936968
That's the first thing I think of, though she did fine with Ame during that Mario Party stream on Mel's channel with her mama. I think there was a mention of Korean interest somewhere here but I forget what that was. It was in relation to how Korean's had more interest to her than Nijisanji KR. I know I've seen a lot more Korean viewers in Gura's stream so I'm guessing it must be the same for Ame as well.

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noticed ollie is also doing a Korean stream. Hololive KR confirmed?

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>>5936937
>Does she have a big KR audience?
Yes, because of the fake news story where she apparently investigated the murder of some Korean med student.
It's pretty weird.

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>>5936937
Her mom's Korean.

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>>5936937
>scheds Korean Duolingo
>while using Ina's art
Yea i'm thinking Iname

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>>5936937
honestly, maybe to leverage the shitpost PR she accidentally acquired and/or to communicate with her mama in korean

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>>5937196
kek what

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>>5936937
>Korean friend
>Korean mom
Sounds based if she manages to do it.

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>>5936937
She singlehandedly managed to meme Korean vtuber market into existence by accident.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0faz0n6fevM

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>>5937309
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0faz0n6fevM

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>>5936937
Because of Ina's mom.

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>>5937196
nice rrat

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>>5937434
I still can't believe that's all because of one shitposter managing to trick some news report into printing out her name as being tied to investigating a murder case...

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>>5936937
As far as Asian languages go Korean is by far the easiest to learn. And there's a lot of good korean players in Apex so it could be related to that if she's looking to take part in tournaments in the future.

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>>5937434
>>5937439
>koreans are so controlled by the media they can't google a few words to realize it's fake.

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>>5936937
probably because fubuki speaks korean
and she is in phase-connect as her boss

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>>5936937
Korean is the easiest Asian language for English speakers to learn, supposedly. Their alphabet and writing system is literally made with medieval-level peasants in mind

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>>5937434

>A high profile death happened
>Someone shitposts that Ame was investigating it
>A journo believed it and published it on national news
>It was deleted but now other news agency were mocking them for it
>The entire South Korea became aware of Hololive and HoloEn
>Hololive popularity exploded in the last two months, especially with Gura.

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>>5937552
not even a rrat though

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>>5936937
>Does she have a big KR audience?
Nabi mama collab incoming

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>>5937552
Oh man you haven't seen the clip where that k news station reported on the legendary Amelia Watson being called it

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>>5937811
Funny thing is Nabi got a spillover effect from the entire thing

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>>5937724
Why can't nips follow the example and ditch their kanji? Kanas are okay but holy shit kanji is absolutely retarded like 10 meanings for each so you never know what they're saying or what word is supposed to come out of them. Astel is right.

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>>5937811
Finally something that actually makes sense

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>This thread wouldn't exist if this faggot did some archive reps.
When does /vt/'s first summer end?

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>>5936937
Easier to learn than Jap. Exclusive gook only collabs with Ina in the future.

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>>5936937
she cannt evne Japanese oa jelearnign duslearning Korean?

talk abut more biting than chewing that she ciudld

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>>5937900
the nippons never had a based as fuck ruler who instituted a language reform just to give the peasants a more level playing field against the aristocrats.

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I remember Iofi knows Korean.

Is it time to release the inhibitors?

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>>5936937

>1.3m views
>1.4K comment mostly in Korean
https://youtu.be/D3taGkYGY-c
In case you’re wondering how popular Hololive right now in Korea.

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>>5937867
wtf all in Kr, where did all her eop went to?

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Yes
Watch

https://youtu.be/7DDO17XynFg

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>>5938068
Easier to read, but the grammar is more fucked and pronouncing it is a nightmare.

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>>5938270
Still in Jewtuber, she ushered all the KOP to her newly made twitch channel.

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>>5938264
Nijikr gave me the impression that vtubers were not popular in kr, but now I am starting to believe.

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>>5938434
And now every nijikr are scrambling to stream more regularly

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>>5938264
>Gura
Just how powerful is she? She doesn't knows a single korean word yet she's also crushing a market that has proven to be really hostile to vtubers

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>>5937149
>>5937191
Ollie wants to learn korean she has spoken about this a while ago.

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>>5938894
That is just one video with a clickbait thumbnail, doesnt prove anything

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>>5938894
Powerful enough that 3/8 of her audience are now Korean

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>>5936937
Too dumb for Japanese.

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Because she wants to sing Gangnam Style like Coco

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>>5937900
China ruin everything

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>>5937191
Ollie is a NijiKR simp, maybe she seeks a collab with them one day

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>>5936937
Idk, but I'm starting to see a growing korean audience in Hololive EN. Maybe because Amelia and Calli were mentioned on the news as a result of a bait

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>>5937745
Wait this is real?
Please be real.

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>>5939802
>Maybe because Amelia and Calli were mentioned on the news as a result of a bait
?

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>>5939835
It is real

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>>5939250

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>>5937697
Korea and the internet are funny things.
I remember hearing once that the only legal internet browser was internet explorer. As in, if you had anything else installed police would be sent to your dwelling and you would be dealt with.

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>>5940076
When was this, could be months ago and they moved on already. On the other hand, meme videos with clickbait will always has good views

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>>5939835
It's real, just can't be bothered to find the link because was all in korean.

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>>5939835
No Rrat friendo, Even Niji took the occasion to spotlight their EN talents with that Elira/Ban Collab. If you take a moment to decifer the difference between korean and nipponese runes and you'll notice a lot more Korean Gachikois than before.

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>>5939914
>>5940262
>>5940316
I love this timeline of zero-awarness media. Top kekku.

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>>5937036
SPICBROS SEGUIMOS GANANDO

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>>5936937
Koreanbros...

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Why don't Koreans like Ina?

[Anonymous No.]

Better question is, what's the mystery EN Collab on Tuesday?

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>>5936937
To get ready for the day Korea invades, then she can sell out her friends easily.

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Her baby Daddy

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>>5941070
Ark

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>>5936937
she's a white girl who is probably into kpop, that's why

[Anonymous No.]

The Korean alphabets are so easy to learn that you could literally do it in one stream so there's that. It also gives you a nice sense of accomplishment.

That being said, Duolingo for Korean is absolute dog shit.

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>>5937434
Yeah this is a smart move on Ame's part, the koreans have been pushing out quality well edited vids, meme's and even reporting bugs VPN's. The seem like an audience base you'd want

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>>5941980
I mean, Ame didn't actually have to do anything...

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아이고

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>>5941561
ska is not exactly adjacent to kpop. also
>white

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>>5937900
The Koreans also use a Kanji-equivalent. The Norks banned it in '47 and only use anproper alphabet, but SK has the exact same problem as Japan does. They just call them Hanja instead of Kanji.

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>>5936937
I don't care, I'm down. I speak Korean and it's fun watching people learn it. Duolingo Korean is pretty terrible, but it'll make for good content.

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>>5936937
Teamates, was the podcast thingy she did with Gura only ever meant to be a one-time-thing?

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>>5936937
Ina, the love of her life...

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>>5940521
GRINGOS EN GUARDIA SUICIDA

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>>5942910
The use of Hanja in South Korea is not comparable to Kanji in Japan.

Every year people use Hanja less and less and it's been like that for decades. You can literally get by not knowing none at all. The most common Hanja you see in everyday life are signs for the toilets and size options in restaurants. That's literally it.

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>>5940816
Ina is a literal race traitor?

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>>5942910
Hanja is on almost nothing these days, and I lived in the middle of bumfuck nowhere SK for years. You don't need to learn hanja, or at the very least, not more than a handful. It's not used anywhere near as much as kanji.

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>>5936937
It's a signal they're starting Holo KR auditions any time soon, their facebook profile was there for a while now.

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>>5937149
Holo KR and IN (lel) exists for quite a while now it just was in a limbo.

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Nabi's KR, so family recognition I guess?

Although she's heavily dweebified and speaks much more Jap than KR usually.

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>>5939786
Don't most of them speak eigo or even jap? Pretty sure some of them collabed with Towa in Apex.

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>>5940816
She's a weeb who hates her heritage.

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Ame will singlehandedly mend the damage done by the trade war between SK and Japan.

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>>5940816
Because she’s an unironic weeb who’s ashamed of her gook roots. Ina would rather kill herself than speak korean on stream, not counting the one liner she gave during her debut. KR bros can smell race traitors like her from thousands of miles away and likely consider Ame to be more korean than Ina.

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>>5943786
Holy shit those accounts are actually still around.

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>>5943810
Nabi recently made a twitch channel dedicated to Korean only streams. She’s also openly admitted on stream several times that she’s Korean. She likes Japanese culture but she’s not a self-hating gook like Ina.

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>>5943946
Now I want to SC Ina about Dokdo

[Anonymous No.]

I'm going to eat Amelia's stinky asshole

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>>5937697
tbf a cult runs their country

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>>5944104
Hey buddy, get in line

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>>5943844
When NijiKR were the only Korean vtubers around and tremendously failing in the KR vtuber market, their only strategy to survive was by hiding their roots and going full nihongo to siphon nip viewers. This led to the common misconception that Koreans aren’t interested in vtubers at all, especially if they spoke Korean. However Ame and Nabi have both proven this to be completely wrong by mogging the KR market and destroying nijiKR. My guess is that NijiKR were just a bunch of boring fucks with no personalities and shit management, which led to their failure.

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>>5943228
I think suicide watch wouldn't translate to "guardia suicida" en todo caso sería algo similar a "Cuidado preventivo de suicidio" o "atención contra suicidio". Si eres un spic, me decepcionas, si eres un gringo necesitas hacer tus reps

[Anonymous No.]

>Korean stream
>..While it's fucking morning in Korea.

Damn it Ame..

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>>5940164
Ok i'm like 90% certain that's not true. I used to live in Korea and I always used chrome. I guess i never asked what browsers they used tho

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>>5944387
There was no law about it, but I know that as of 2015, when I moved out of the country, the ubiquitous browser for doing any business (especially online banking) was IE and most people were still using Windows XP. Pretty ridiculous, but what can you do. I used Chrome personally, but if I needed to do online banking, it was all IE.

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>>5944387
Apparently there was a law made in the 90's that required browsers to have certain security options so a lot people did use IE.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/south-koreans-use-internet-explorer-its-the-law/

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>>5937036
Hermano, Aqours no para de superarse a si mismo, ya no tanto la canción (QUE ESTA RE BUENA) El pto VIDEO, la cantidad partículas, el motion blur, ni un solo diente de sierra, las animaciones realistas ¿Saben cuanta plata y tiempo toma hacer una animacion asi? wn, Lantis, Sunrise saben que Aqours es su gallina de los huevos de oro, y lo hacen notar.
hermano, este es sin duda alguna el mejor MV de Love Live hasta la fecha en el apartado técnico ni siquiera el MV de Liella que es un proyecto nuevo y pseudo remplazo de Aqours no esta a la altura, pero si a la altura de Love Live.

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>>5944209
From what I remember niji KR started by just buying some struggling Korean chuuba startup, but one of them turned out to be a school bully in his past so it ended with a huge drama, many members graduated for different reasons medical, studies or conscription no wonder they couldn't develop a big enough stable audience.

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>>5936937
for both her MAMA and INA

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Ame has more koreans fans than all NijiKR combined

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>>5936937
Hololive KR confirmed!

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>>5944042
One, Ina is some Canadian with KR origins. Not a self hater, just an immigrant with no ties.

Two, Nabi is KR and that's well known but on her first stream on her official ch, she said she'd mostly speak dweeb and Ingurlish.

That's what I'm referring to.

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Koreans vtubers don't stream on youtube they use twitch

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>>5937158
And Ina. Reine and Kiara are able to get a bunch of collabs by teaching languages and its about time we got more ame/ina.

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>>5941980
>The seem like an audience base you'd want
koreans are also the most insane supporters of pop figures you'll ever see. They're more hardcore than any jap could ever be.

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Probably she likes to watch those korean romcoms on netflix and hulu.

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>>5937552
This one is actually true.

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>>5936937
She became South Korea's new meme after appearing on the news due to a joke

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>>5936937
it's pretty obvious she has yellow fever

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>>5939269
I see tons of Venezuelans and Columbians use gookscript for their nicknames for no other reason than it looks cool to them and they think it makes girls like them.

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>>5943946
Based

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>>5937552
Must suck to have your mind rotted by paranoia and thinking everything is made up

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>>5940816
They got a thousand other "Ina"s back home, people tend to like exotic things more.

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>>5938855
Fucking lol
All thanks to their rival

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>>5936937
>spanish paladins stream
VIVA LA AME

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>>5945792
That shit's addictive. They're also actually very good for learning Korean, since you're interested in what's going on, and the language is usually not that complicated.

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>>5938033
On September 22, 2021

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>>5943963
>>5943786
looks unofficial

[Anonymous No.]

I don't speak korean but somehow found some korean Ame videos and they make some good shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4ZBnSvgaNw&ab_channel=%EC%A1%B0%EB%82%98%EB%B9%99

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>>5936937
Ame is Ms. Worldwide

[Anonymous No.]

because she watched a few korean dramas

[Anonymous No.]

Why would Ina hate being Korean? Her being the cheery and skilled successful woman that she is, is probably all down to her gook upbringing.

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>>5941561
She skips k-pop every time it gets into bubb4bot

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>>5936937
She had a recent influx of Korean fans after a news story was written about her. I think the author got tricked into thinking she was a real detective. She’s striking while the iron is hot.

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I keep reading "Korone" instead of "Korean" sometimes.

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>>5945546
Immigrants have no ties to their countries of origin? What kind of retarded shit is that

[Anonymous No.]

She's excited to play Grand Chase ClassicTM in the original source language.

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>>5946314
>Why would Ina hate being Korean?
because she wants to be japanese and you can't be nip without hating korea

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>>5948248
Its true, you will never be Irish.

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>>5941980
>The seem like an audience base you'd want
Absolutelly not,their level of autism is on a league of their own, and their antis make japanes antis look like a joke.

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>>5940816
For some fucking reason Koreans hate second generation koreans born abroad.

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>>5950199
They will end up marrying a white person and siring a brood of hafu that don't speak Korean. All immigrants are fated in this way.

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>>5938855
Every nijikr is trying to stream regularly while many were or are in breaks.

>>5944209
Such a failure that to this day they get sponsorships, merch and new members, one year after debut while most of them stream to more than 100 people and bora has over 3k viewers. Not everything needs to be huge to be successful.

And it's clear you never watched them faggot, when you say they have no personality, as it's the case with holotards who don't watch anything outside of hololive.

>>5944779
All of them have it, just that mostly japanese or english while KR are the minority. No different than HoloID.

>>5945466
Ame also has more fans in indoneisa than all HoloID combined. If HoloID spoke mainly indonesian, they would be much much smaller, but they cater to eop mostly.

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>>5950199
I've heard that they get free and good health care in Korea so many come back to Korea just to use their health care system and then fuck off.

Native koreans obviously hate this since they are paying the taxes.

[Anonymous No.]

>should be busting her ass off learning Japanese
>HURRR LE FUNNY GOOK LEARN STREAM
Stupid bitch.

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>>5950199
I mean there's a reason why Korea has one of the highest suicide rates in the world. It's extremely competitive and difficult to find a job. Humans will always hate those who have it better.

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>>5937196
>murder of some Korean med student
Excuse me but THE FUCK

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>>5950416
>Such a failure that to this day they get sponsorships, merch and new members, one year after debut while most of them stream to more than 100 people and bora has over 3k viewers.
WOW, 100 PEOPLE? That's almost as good as the indies I watch. Go neck yourself you retarded nijinigger.

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>>5937552
go back you dumb nigger

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>>5937036
bien dicho hermano

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>>5951010
100 viewers is above average for streamers and vtubers you retard. Most people are streaming to 10 viewers or less.

If Anycolor was thinking like you do, that branch would be dead in ages like IN died.

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>>5951551
go back to amecord

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>>5951551
>InAme>GurAme
Holy based beyond belief!

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>>5950459
Doesn't Canada have that too?

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>>5937690
What makes it easier?

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>>5937697
Not like America is much better.

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>>5951944
The script is actually sane. Although Korean pronunciation and grammar still seem like a fucking nightmare. Not that guy.

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>>5946096
Lazulight collabs have given the KR Nijis a nice bump in popularity too.
North Americans are making vtubing popular in japan.

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>>5952387
In *Korea

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>>5952387
>>5952423
>North Americans are making vtubing popular
Fixed that for both you anons.

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>>5938264
>Yeah no

What does this mean?

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>>5951944
It was literally designed to be picked up by illiterate peasants within two weeks. That was one of Sejong's primary concerns when he created it.
It's also the world's only known ConLang (Artificially Constructed Language) that was actually successfully adopted as the language of a people.

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>>5951741
>free and good
>good

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>>5936937
learning a language is fun

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>>5952764
Well, the language already existed, but they were stuck using Chinese characters to write in Korean. So not quite a ConLang. But still very very easy to learn to read and write. Most people can in a day.

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The bad thing about this is Ame might get some dedicated Korean schizos. Doing stupid stuff due to jealousy is pretty big in Korea.

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>>5937724
and yet it looks like actual alien runes.
>>5937900
the trouble with a syllabary instead of an alphabet is that while it makes it easy to pronounce things, you have a limit to what you can print out that'll make sense, particularly if you aren't just mashing random syllables together. that leads into needing something else, such as the pictograms that are kanji. that said, japan has it weird with them, since unlike the chinks they assign multiple meanings to given pictograms so you still need context to help figure out which is being used, in order to use fewer of them.
considering how huge the number japan limits themself to, and how seemingly endless the chinks' list is, it's probably for the best, even if it's a pain in the ass.
on the other hand, computers are killing the ability to actually write the blasted things. nobody wants to remember all the strokes and stroke order for everything when technology allows you to let the computer go through the list of what fits what you typed instead.
I pity the poor bastard that tried to make a kanji-ready typewriter back in the day. plug "kanji typewriter" into youtube and see some really fucky shit.
>>5941648
>>5952764
>>5953423
I dunno. I tried to copy a small line of it into google translate in the days before the phone app, and my head was ready to explode worse than when I'm trying to hash out kanji one radical at a time to use jisho to figure out wtf one is. freaky space alien shit that all piles together fuckweird as if it's trying to make kanji out of itself as you go. longest ten minutes of my life that didn't involve a medical professional, and I retained nothing but the memory of my rising frustration.
fags love to joke about japanese as "moon runes", but hangul is on another level.

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>>5954823
You might be retarded man, Korean has like, 24 letters, it's not hard to learn to read.

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>>5942910
Literally nobody uses Hanja these days, because the Gooks aren't retarded traditionalists and their writing system isn't reliant on the dumb chink symbols to function.
Unlike Japanese.

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>>5941561
Dude, she went to enough "rock" concert to give herself tinnitus and has injured herself during moshpits. I don't a girl like her would enjoying listening to pop music.

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>>5952764
What the fuck it isn't a Conlang at all. Korean is an organic language. Hangul had to be invented but that's literally every script.

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>>5948248
They don't, not really.
All cultural understanding of an immigrant is going to be second-hand at best.
Ina may have learned Korean from her family, but she has much more in common with a 5th generation white Canadian girl than she does with a Korean. 2nd Immigrants have no culture, because the primary means to impress culture upon people are the schooling system and media you consume.

But I understand that it's hard to grasp for Amerimutts whose understanding of ethnicity is "my great great Grandfather is Irish, so I'm like Irish dude"

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>>5959397
*I don't think a girl

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>>5959421
You have to understand that the written language and the spoken language of a nation are not actually the same thing when it comes to linguistics.
When Sejong released Hongul, it was a ConLang by the technical definition of the term since the writing system (the written language) was entirely constructed and not even remotely naturally developed.

>but that's literally every script.
Not in a period of less than a week, Anon. No other language in use by an entire people can be directly attributed to one person, not even Sequoia gets to claim that. Every other language, be it written or spoken, was developed over a matter of generations. Korean, however, has Hangul. Which was created in less than a week by one man.
That's what makes it technically a ConLang.
t. linguistics student, had to sit through a lecture on that last week.

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>>5959974
This usage is brand new to me. Linguistics is a really light hobby for me and I've never seen a script referred to as a Conlang. That just seems incorrect. Surely a Conlang is constructed from the ground up, like Klingon. If English adopted an alternative script tomorrow it wouldn't be a conlang. Isn't this muddying terms?

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>>5960135
Written languages are languages too.
A written language isn't just a representation of a spoken language.

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>>5960191
That's a bit too big brained for me. I'll have to read a book on it.

[Anonymous No.]

Yes Korean ame clips are trending for a while now.

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>>5960270
Consider Chinese.
Many Chinese dialects are not compatible, but they all study the same written Chinese, so all of China could historically communicate in writing, even though they could not necessarily talk to each other.

Chinese is even dumber than Japanese, somehow

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>>5960135
From what the instructor claimed, if English adopted an alternative script tomorrow and it was entirely made up, that written language would be a ConLang while the spoken language would be organic.
That being said, just the lettering alone wouldn't be enough. Making a Cipher for English would just make it encoded English. Truly making a new written language would involve grammar and all, which is something that Sejong purportedly created for Hangul by smashing multiple systems that were in use across Korea together to create one unified system.
Of course, it could just be the instructor being wrong and a fool, what given the present state of academia anymore it wouldn't surprise me. Either way, that is probably going to be on the test and guess whose opinion better be in the answers.

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>>5960191
Hold on a second linguistics man.

>A written language is the representation of a spoken or gestural language by means of a writing system.[1] Written language is an invention in that it must be taught to children, who will pick up spoken language or sign language by exposure even if they are not formally instructed.
>A written language exists only as a complement to a specific spoken language, and no natural language is purely written.

Wikipedia says this.

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>>5936937
>talents have hobbies and interests outside of their stream schedule/persona
no fucking way

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>>5948248
He's right. I'm ethnically South Asian but I've only visited once when I was like 4 years old. Obviously there are some cultural elements I was raised with like language, food, clothing, values, etc. but I don't care about any country besides the US where I was born.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5960354
ogey chang

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>>5960354
My understanding is that every Chinese language utilizes the same script in different ways. So that while they might be mutually intelligible, there would still be some differences. Like how the Scandinavian languages are mutually intelligible but "written Scandinavian" doesn't exist. It's just the written forms of Norwegian, Swedish, and Danish.

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>>5940816
I don't see many clips regarding Ina which mean she has less exposure to the KOP. I guessed Gura and Ame are more memeable to make.

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>>5960354
Can confirm. I speak Mandarin at an intermediate level, can't speak a word of Cantonese, but if I write down what I want to say, someone in Hong Kong would understand.

Because of that, when you see Chinese characters/kanji/hanja, the meaning will be the same, but the word will be different.

大学 means university in each, but it's pronounced daxue, daigaku, and daehag, respectively.

That said, hanja is almost completely out of use in Korea today, and the anon who can't seem to understand hangul is certifiably dumber than a 15th century peasant.

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>>5960364
This thread has prompted some cursory google searching from me and this doesn't seem like a settled topic. Anon's teacher is probably teaching a specific side rather than the debate. Linguistics seems fraught with these factional divides.

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>>5936937
For kpop. It kind of makes sense if you dig just a little bit.

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>>5944060
>Dokdo
Takeshima* you mean

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>>5960596
>Because of that, when you see Chinese characters/kanji/hanja, the meaning will be the same, but the word will be different.
>大学 means university in each, but it's pronounced daxue, daigaku, and daehag, respectively.
now thats interesting, i didnt know it worked like that

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>>5960596
So in your experience is the grammar and vocabulary the exact same? There's no language gap in writing? That would be pretty impressive. I'm imagining it would be like reading Scots personally, intelligible but not the exact same.

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>>5960527
If I was Chang, I wouldn't call Chinese fucking retarded. I'd call Hanzi the greatest invention of humankind and I'd call for everyone to write in nothing but Hanzi.

>>5960538
>My understanding is that every Chinese language utilizes the same script in different ways
My understanding is that the central differences in the Chinese dialects are in pronunciation and what the word actually is. The Hanzi always represent the same idea, but they stnad in for different words. >>5960596 is a more extreme version of this, as these three are different languages, but the same principles apply within China.

>It's just the written forms of Norwegian, Swedish, and Danish.
The thing is that these languages are written in Latin, which is an alphabet. Chinese is logographic.
Which means the way the language is written in Norwegian, Swedish and Danish is distinct, simply due to how the alphabet is used slightly differently. Which is why you can't really read books of a Nordic German language you don't know, despite knowing one of them.

German itself is interesting here. There are many German dialects, many of which are incompatible. A North German could not understand a Carinthian, if the Carinthian did not make an effort to speak the standardized "High German". And everyone writes in High German as well, which is why Swiss texts, despite the Swiss German language being nonsensical to German-speakers outside of Switzerland can be read by German speakers and are part of the German literary canon.
It's like Chinese, but to a much, much lesser extent.

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>>5946114
t. woman
I watched The Great Queen Seondeok after seeing it on Arirang TV, myself

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>>5961078
Interesting, I can wrap my head around that. Thanks.

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>>5941980
Saving this post for when Ame's roommate is being held hostage at knifepoint by a babbling Korean gachikoi.

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>>5960596
>>5960887
>>5960975

So there's this thing called 筆談, which consists of Chinese characters pen, writing, etc. and to speak, to converse, etc., where you communicate via writing. This used to be quite common in East Asia and even within China because of dialects.

However, there can be several issues with this method because even if individual characters may mean same across regions, combinations of them can potentially mean different.

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>>5960711
I think you mean the Liancourt Rocks

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>>5950459
>Korea
>good healthcare
Lets be real here. They are just going to get some plastic done. I'm Korean, and I've never heard of Koreans going back to Korea to do serious surgeries. And if they do, it's always something derm related.
All the rich Koreans (non American ones) get their surgeries done in American when it really matters. In Korea, they typically will not attempt to operate in emergency situations if the risk is too high because they don't want to their numbers to be affected. In America, the hospital gets a huge lawsuit if they won't operate, so they will at least make an attempt to do something to stabilize the patient.

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>>5961121
That's a good one. Have you seen Moon Embracing the Sun?

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>>5961742
It's way cheaper to get certain surgeries in Korea tho. I'm sure rich Koreans just get surgeries in America but I know a lot of not rich Koreans going back to get healthcare.

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Does this make ame the Sam Hyde of holo live?

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Same reason her half-sister and mom learn English.
They go where their audience is. And they can see the demographics from google analytics. Besides, while fluency will be difficult, understanding the bare basics can help them make fun conversations with Koreans like Nabi, Ina, and Ayamy.

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>>5950199
They are just jealous that those Koreans were able to escape the mess that Korea is right now. In Korea, it is almost impossible to climb up the socioeconomic ladder. As opposed to America where it is comparatively common to find new generations of middle class and a rare few to upper class. For example, I know a couple of Koreans who would have been considered as below the poverty line when they were living in Korea but were able to make a decent living by becoming a truck driver in America. They wouldn't be making nearly the same amount of money if they were a truck driver in Korea, and it's also unlikely that they would even get a job as a truck driver in Korea.

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>>5936937
Korean is a pretty easy language to learn. Japanese on the other hand not so much.

>>5937149
Ollie's doing it for dick though.

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>>5961883
Regular preventive care is very accessible and affordable in South Korea. In five years living there, besides regular annual physicals, I got treated for the flu, had a dislocated knee dealt with, and more. I don't know what more expensive healthcare is like, I was in my late 20s at the time with no underlying health issues, so it's not like I needed to go often. But I definitely went more than I did when I was in my early 20s living in the US, and skipping things like physicals, or not going even when sick, because my employer didn't provide insurance and I couldn't afford out of pocket.

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>>5945588
I have noticed that too. Lots and lots of Korean streams on Twitch and viewership tend too be surprisingly high too.

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>>5954574
What are they gonna do? Travel across an ocean to stalk her?

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Korean will be a more useful language to learn than Japanese in a couple years

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>>5960887
People don't appreciate the fact that classical Chinese was the lingua franca of the region. If you didn't know how to write classical Chinese, you were considered a worthless peasant back in the day. Written classical Chinese was literally the mean by which people from different nations communicated.

A side effect from that historical quirks is that if you take a modern Japanese sentence, replace some grammatical kana with equivalent kanji, then shed the rest of kana, the resulting sentence will be a passably broken Chinese sentence with some classical flair. Because the kanji grammatical markers more or less came from classical Chinese. In fact, there was this whole "fake Chinese" fad on Japanese twitter a while ago.

Now that Koreans have more or less lost their ability to read hanja, they are finding out that the can no longer read their own historical documents, or having trouble dealing with homophones the hard way.

Yes, literate people in the region were forced to be diglossic, but that's the price you pay to be one of the elites.

>>5961303
While it's true some words have different meaning depending on which language you are talking about (e.g. letter vs toilet paper, or mistress vs spouse), it's not that much of an issue, especially if everyone was writing in classical Chinese.

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>>5962148
I'm studying Japanese so that I could work in Japan, find suisei and marry her.

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>>5962207
I can give an example.

親分 this means "close and friendly acquaintance" in Chinese and Korean while it means "Boss (Oyabun)" in Japanese.

I have more examples if you'd like.

As I said, it can potentially mean different things.

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>>5961883
I know what you are talking about, but that's why I'm saying I know more Koreans going back just to get some derm stuff done. Sure there might be a few that go to get a something a little more serious done, but that pales in comparison to the number that go back just to get plastic surgery done. When it came to cancer treatment, I knew someone who refused to get treated because they were afraid of the cost after they were diagnosed. So they went to some oriental/spiritual medicine doctor who gave them a bunch of stuff such as charcoal to eat. While charcoal might have worked to kill the e. coli that caused the stomach cancer in the first place, she was already beyond the point where antibiotics might have helped slow the progression. So instead, the charcoal and other stuff she ate actually sped up the progression of her cancer. Point being is that I doubt that the animosity is due to getting free healthcare. It might be a small reason why, but not even close to explaining the animosity.

Also, it may be a lesser known fact to non-koreans that any Korean-American that goes to Korea, regardless of their looks, will be chick magnets as long as they wave their American citizenship. There are loads of stories of where they only married for the green card and then either divorced once they became a citizen or just were so shit that their partner divorced them. This is why I think that the animosity is due to the jealousy of those Koreans that were able to get out of Korea.

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>>5962207
>>5962427

I mean I agree with you. I just wanted to give a more extreme example.

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>>5962003
its not jealousy its pure hatred of other koreans with slight differences. its built in to their culture. nobody hates koreans as much as other koreans. the north hates the south and the south hates the north. then youve got people who arent directly hostile and look like you but arent you and dont share your beliefs.fuck em they dont conform.

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>>5962147
Think coco 2.0 only now there is no firewall and they know how to actually do shit on twitter.

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>>5962427
Yes, I know about this. That's why I listed examples such as letter vs toilet paper and mistress vs spouse.

People are not that stupid. You can always tell a word is out of place based on context, and then figure out the meaning from there. And if everything fails, you can always grab a C-J/K-J/J-C/K-C dictionary. Or if they were a bunch of special snowflakes and write in classical Chinese, they probably wouldn't have this problem in the first place.

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>>5954574
Yeah, because it's not like Japan or America has any of that as well...

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Ollie keeps mentioning NijiKR. Which side are you on, zombie?

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Korean just sounds better than Japanese in my and Ame's opinion

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>>5946096
UNITY LOVE

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She wants to help best korea take over the world.

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>>5941561
>white

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>>5937697
>implying

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Is korean food good? A korean place opened up near me and I've been thinking of going. Looking at the names of the food though every word sounds like baby noises, don't know why anyone would learn the language. Outside of their autistic splitting of their country, Samsung, and having an annoying as fuck pop music fanbase I can't think of much that Korea is known for.

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>>5942895
>>5969429
>white
gimme the deets

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>>5969539
Nigger litterally all gook food is coated in sugar and MSG of course it tastes good.

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>>5958642
Japan is very context heavy and has a ton of homophones. さす can be 1. to offer 2. to hold up 3. to pour into 4. to color 5. to shine on 6. to aim at 7. to stab 8. to leave unfinished
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>>5937149
Ina’s harem is growing

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>>5937036
>>5940521
You racist bitches no NOTHING about the LA FAMILIA, salut

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So wait, hololive created a market and is going to steal that market despite NijiKR existing for a while now?

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>>5969589
She is FAMILA

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>>5958642
korean has more sounds than japanese, so it works for them
for japanese it sucks reading stuff that only uses hiragana

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>>5936937
>Why does Ame want to learn korean?
1. She's a k-pop fangirl.
2. She's too dumb to learn Japanese.

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>>5952732
"Yeah no" means no ESLchama, and "no yeah" means yes

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>>5944355
sip, pinches gringos pendejos, si no saben español mejor ni le intenten

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>>5969539
Their Korean fried chicken is probably the only food that convinced my white ass friends that kfc is shits

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>>5970123
Yup

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>>5936937
>Korean
Watch out Ame, this book is dangerous.