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59365005 No.59365005 [Reply] [Original]

Honestly, I think the use of A.I. has been discussed many times. There is a vtuber who uses (from the WorldEyeS Live community) A.I, I think it's fine to use A.I, because anyone is free to use it, but the problem is, there is one of their vtubers who uses A.I for membership streams, which means it is already classified as commercialization.

I think it's quite unethical and I think some artists will be upset about it. He (Asuka) feels like he's the only one affected by the drama, while other vtubers aren't, what do you think?

Also, there was a WorldEyes Live member who came to defend him, and I think their words were quite offensive. They argued that if only one person is using it, why should it be generalized to a community?
Actually, (in my opinion) if it really is one person, just let the official community and that person clarify.
I'd love to hear your discussion

I'll post the translation of the letter below

_______________________
27 September 2023

Official Statement Regarding Problems with the Use of A.I.

Good night.

First of all, we are grateful and grateful for the support that has been given to WorldEyeS-ID to date.

Regarding the problem that occurred some time ago, namely the use of A... Art in the form of posters with the aim of Membership Promotion by Asuka Nocturnia, we as WorldEyeS-ID would like to provide clarification that:

We have held discussions with the members concerned, and also provided warnings for behavior deemed inappropriate.

Our members do not all support the use of A.I. as alleged by several parties.

We have imposed sanctions in the form of a ban on streaming activities and use of Platform X

as a form of disciplinary for 7 days to Asuka Nocturnia for mistakes and violations

the rules that have been done.

We have also imposed sanctions in the form of a ban on activities from using Platform

We have added articles related to the use of A.l. into the Rules & Guidelines

which has been agreed upon and must be complied with by all WorldEyeS members. 6. We also realize that this problem can occur due to abuse of the principle of Freedom of Speech or Freedom of Opinion which has become the main foundation of our community. We will continue to evaluate and improve the Order & SOP if deemed necessary, especially in the Harassment/Hate Speech handling Category, and also P.R. Management.

The sanctions imposed on the 3 members above will take effect starting September 28

2023 to 5 October 2023. We hope that this Official Statement can be accepted by all parties who feel disadvantaged or

involved in this matter. Thank you very much for your attention and understanding.

(The letter was translated with google translate)

>> No.59365107

>>59365005
can you post the AI art she used?

>> No.59365128

World Eyes Twitter
https://twitter.com/WorldEyeS_LIVE

The one use A.I
https://twitter.com/AsukaNocturnia

The one who defend him
https://twitter.com/veronayuika

>> No.59365205

>>59365107
I think it's been removed, and it's also a membership stream

>> No.59365425

Commissioning ID artists is already dirt cheap, how can you not afford that even as ID VTuber lol

>> No.59365613

>>59365425
Imagine, in this case, he's open commission, but he's also using A.I for his stream
lul

>> No.59365633

I don't feel a public suspension and discussion is needed. if the business has a stance against AI, I would expect it to be an internal clarification between management and the vtuber starting with warning and remediation. maybe something is lost in translation, but I don't get the sense that the suspension is from repeat offenses.

>> No.59365645

>>59365005
who gives a fuck

>> No.59365722

if you check kemono, some vtubers post AI art as rewards, that's very stingy

>> No.59366441

Who gives a fuck? This is an economic question - if AI art is cheap, fast, legal and good enough, it makes sense to use it.

Opponents of AI art are worse than the weavers who wrecked textile factories in the 19th century because they got outcompeted. At least those weavers were poor folks and shit out of luck, not entitled keyboard warriors.

>> No.59366624

>>59366441
Imo AI art is acceptable if it’s trained in a personal database that the owners have all the rights to. AI trained off of artists’ or voice actors’ work without permission is scummy. Selling AI is also scummy cause that shit can’t be copyrighted. If it’s made then it should be available for free and usable by anyone without restraint.

>> No.59366985

Vtubers who support AI are extra dumb cause their industry is also easily replaced by it.

>> No.59367224

>>59365005
AI art is only bad if you try to lie and say you made it by hand. AI is here to stay get used to it everyone.

>> No.59367274

>>59366985
AI will never completely replace humans but it will increase competition.

>> No.59367419

>>59367224
Indeed, I wouldn't mind that either and would appreciate it the vtuber was honest about using A.I.

>> No.59367745
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59367745

>>59365005
Who?

>> No.59369231

>>59365005
Who?

>> No.59369277

>>59367224
lmao

>> No.59369338

>>59365005
first of all, I don't see what the fucking problem is.
>posters with the aim of Membership Promotion
so basically thumbnails? or am I missing something?

commercialization is only unethical if you are selling the artwork itself.
works of art produced by AI cannot be copyrighted and are considered public domain.
if you create a patreon to sell AI art that's a shit move. you're restricting the distribution of the work through monetization.
using AI art for membership promotion is completely different. you're not selling the art and anyone can save copies of the picture and use it.

>Our members do not all support the use of A.I. as alleged by several parties.
so the real problem was because the other members decided to through a tantrum?

this doesn't seem to be a legal problem, but more like internal bitching, and people responding in bad faith.

>> No.59370723

>>59366441
Public opinion still figures in to economic questions. Since it might lead to losing customers.

>> No.59371156

Only seething drawfags are anti-AI, despite drawing generic style anime girls using heavily assisted inputs on their art software and hardware.
>>59370723
In this case you can rest assured that anyone assmad about it is totally penniless, so they're a nonfactor.

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>>59371156

>> No.59371529

>>59365005
Why are you posting seamonkey shit on my board?

>> No.59371602

>>59365005
Anyone who seethes about AI should draw and commission high quality art for anyone who wants art for free
That would easily solve the issue right?

>> No.59371696

i seethe about ai art because the lewds on pixiv look exactly the same.

>> No.59374091

>>59365005
>SEA don't have talent and needs to use AI
It happens all the time

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