/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

SOMEONE SAVE THIS HAG ALREADY OH MY GOD

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>>59045230
90%+ of JPs will never reproduce.

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>>59046147
The ~10% would be impregnated by me

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>>59045230
>girl is drop dead gorgeous
>gets nervous while being hugged
>she never got used to getting hugged
We failed as a species

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I can actually, literally, unironically fix her.

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>>59045230
Those nips are too busy trying to cancel girls with anime avatar for stupid reasons on the weekends...

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>>59045230
atleast 3 children

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>>59046726
Just like me frfr

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>>59045230
なんてこっだ?

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>>59045230
She wants to be a cool dependable senpai but she will always be a shy beaten OL

[Anonymous No.]

>what is kayfabe

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>>59047641
No you don't understand. Vtubers are broken and need my dick to fix them

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>>59045230
This genuinely hurt to read

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>>59047641
>merely pretending
>merely pretending, Japan

[Anonymous No.]

I'm waiting for Japan to approve my breeding visa, soon I will rescue hags from being childless and fix Japan's birthrate

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>>59048264
Haha...

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>>59046315
It's only Asians and Nordics that don't get enough intimate contact. Normal people hug and kiss their loved ones.

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>>59048288
>only Asians and Nordics
I mean just asians alone are what? More than half the world's population?

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>>59048264
You better take responsibilities anon. You piece of shit.

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>>59048288
Technically asians are the "normal" ones since they're the majority in the world

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>>59048284
Do they mean as opposed to normally making it farther than that? Like only 10% made it to being that old?

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>>59048373
>>59048436
Because of Zhangs, yeah but I refuse to consider them normal.

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>>59046147
Fpbp.

Unfortunately it's best to enjoy what little there's left of Japan while we still can before they forcibly become either a stealth chink or korean colony.

>>59047641
You wish...

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>>59048540
10% of the total population is aged 80 or above.
1/10 of the population is above or the age of 80 years old.

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>>59048540
This is the first time it's this bad.

And before people think it's just about the babies, it's not. Marriage is also on a crash-dive.

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>>59048967
The same trend is prevalent in the entire western world, it's just worse in Japan by a fair bit.

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>>59048967
yikes.
The working culture is doing wonders

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>>59049042
It's the housing market being a mess

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>>59048967
no national pride. the women should be out there making babies.

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>>59049142
Extremely poor take.

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>>59048783
They won't become either. They are becoming more and more westoid

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>>59049001
>it's just worse in Japan by a fair bit
Not really, plenty of European countries have fallen to around Japan's levels. Korea is the one whose birthrate is significantly lower than anywhere else.

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>>59049259
Birthrate yes, but Euro countries tend to accept immigrants so the economic impact isn't as severe as what is looming over japan. I believe Finland is behind Japan on oldest population, followed by some other european countries. Birthrates are somewhat similar but a lot harder to compare based on ethnicities.

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>>59045230
>research shows that any Japanese, men or women, who are virgin/lacking sex at 50 very likely to stay virgin/lacking sex their entire lifetime.

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>>59048783
Korea is even more worse off than Japan.

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>>59049120
I thought housing was not a problem in Japan. Its not an investment like it is in western countries so you can actually get things affordably.
They do have big problems with daycare, where its not even about money but not enough services even exist.

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>>59049561
>I thought housing was not a problem in Japan. Its not an investment like it is in western countries so you can actually get things affordably.
Uhh no. Housing in Japan is retarded and not because real estate mafia like in the West.
It is because government is retarded and applies massive land tax to private residence to the point where it is cheaper to live in apartment and let your house rot.

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>>59048540
One in ten people there are fuckin old enough to have fought for the emperor and saw the bombs drop.

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>>59049433
I mean I think that applies to everyone.
If you haven't fucked by 50 then you ain't gonna fuck at all. Plus at that point what's the point? You can't make a baby, shits gonna be all loose and saggy. No thanks. I love hags but 50 is too much.

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>>59048967
Marriage is a little outdated I know plenty of white collar people that just don't get married but have kids and shit.

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>>59049815
>I mean I think that applies to everyone.
Yeah, but do you know that almost 40% of people over 50 in Japan are virgins? I don't fucking believe it either, but it is what it is.
Forty percent.

[Anonymous No.]

She is doomed because of the hag paradox.
-japanese salarymen 25-40 who meet her standards in what she would want in a husband are either japchads and uninterested in marriage or japnerds and uninterested in marrying the kind of girl who would have rejected them in jap highschool.
-most japanese men who would gladly marry her are broke nerds who she wouldn't give the time of day to

This is why arranged marriages were a thing historically, because women burn bright and early but a man can dedicate his entire life to building a business for her to mooch off of. In modern times, women are big sluts from 15-25 and then they sit there wondering why chad never calls anymore since he got that promotion at the car dealership for being the best salesman and making six figures in commission on top of salary.

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>>59049879
Yes, it makes no sense to show marriages when you are trying to show fertility.
Marriage as an institution is becoming less popular a whole.

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>>59050069
fucking car salesmen

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>>59050069
Do you have a business you spent your life building?

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how do you people fall for this?
twitch thots also do the woe is i spiel and their simps are rightly mocked for falling for it

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>>59050140
>Do you have a business you spent your life building?
No. Because I'm too busy withering in a cubicle. Why bother having a wife and child I would never see?

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>>59049351
>the economic impact isn't as severe
Mr "I believe everything I see on tv".

>>59048373
>>59048288
When people say asians they are not counting indonesians and indians they are their own races.

>>59048540
>made it to
Historically less than 10% of the population was over 55 kek.

Now you see why it's cancerous that modern society keeps you in education until you're 22 and keeps you in 'entry level' roles in your 20s. In a historical society you'd already be a master of your craft at 25 and a grandfather at 40.

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>>59045230
Shut up, Kiara. Nobody like you.

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>>59048783
Chinese, Japanese and Korean birthrates combined are only around 9 million in 2023 for a global population of 1.7 billion. There are 1.2 billion Europeans globally and they have a total birthrate of about 12 million, which is low, but comparatively manageable.

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>>59050140
Found the female since you deliberately misinterpreted my post about a husband building a life with his wife/successful career.

Here's a protip for you, western skank, a man making 200k a year isn't going to marry you.

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This hag is worming her way into my hololive top 3, someone stop her....

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>>59050368
Do you make 200k?

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>>59048783
Japan is a burger colony and will stay that way unless the chinks sperg out and start launching nukes

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>>59050208
>When people say asians they are not counting indonesians and indians they are their own races.
They still live in Asia. Italians are whites for some people too but if you put a german and an italian side by side they have nothing in common

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>>59049894
Are you fucking shitting me? Jesus Christ I feel a hell of a lot less bad for my wizard buddies.

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>>59050069
You must be a involuntarily single man who hates women but writes about their pov to explain the reason why you’re single is because of them not you. The statements “women are big sluts from 15-25” and “chad” were huge giveaways, thanks for discrediting yourself incel.

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>>59050069
Arranged marriages are a big part of why some countries birth rates aren't as abysmal as Europe's. The whole world is full of autismos, always has been, that's why we had those systems to pair them up

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>>59051246
What countries even still have arranged marriages?

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>>59050882
Post tits

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>>59050069
Honest question have you ever touched a boob?

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>>59050572
>buddies

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>>59050069
Leave out the jap- and this still applies.

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>>59051330
Nah I've gotten laid. It was like a monkey in my back, and still is when I'm having a dry spell like right now.
I have 2 friends that are confirmed wizards and they are completely cool with it. I just don't get it.

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>>59051277
>What countries even still have arranged marriages?
Only the Arabs and Indians (the real Indians), kek.

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>>59050069
I bet where arranged marriages are still going on are awesome places to live then. Basically eutopia. No one shits on the street and every house has running water and electricity.

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>>59049351
>accept immigrants
as if thats solving the issue

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>>59051463
kek those countries are doing great aren't they?
Shit on the street wipe with your left hand.

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>>59046147
Why don't japs fuck?
Do they just have too high of standards of the opposite sex? They drink like fishes there so that should solve that problem I figure.

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>>59048967
Well if this is what nip marriage is like then it's no wonder they barely do it anymore.

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>>59051646
Isn't this the cuckold artist who got too scared to make ntr doujins because people sent mean messages?
Credible source, I must say.

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>>59051625
Drunk sex is incredibly uncommon in Japan because both the boys and the girls protect each other and send the shitfaced ones with taxi.
Contrary to hentai, this is not the primary source of rape cases.

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>>59045230
I can almost hear her womb calling, she needs a child ASAP

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if only westerners would acknowledge that they are worthless past 30+ like oriental women do

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>>59051707
It is, but I've heard the stats about nips cheating a ton before and I've never seen anyone debunk it so I can see why they'd get so obsessed over NTR.

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>>59051800
Ironic considering oriental women usually look less worn out past 30 than their western counterparts.

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>>59051646
>>59051707
>>59051825
>Japan has 30% divorce rate and most of these were infidelity
It is not that 1/3 of women in Japan are cheater, it's that many cheaters are also serial monogamous and have multiple marriages and divorces.
Basically, bitch sluts ballooning up the statistic. Terasu's 1/20 people being product of cheating only makes sense in this context.
Also, remember that japs don't consider prostitution cheating, as long as there's no emotional commitment. Then it is infidelity.

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>>59051625
I'm sure they're having as much sex as they want, the issue is that unfavorable economic conditions discourage childrearing for the "middle class". This is a commonplace concern in every 1st world country.

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>>59045230
shes not even my oshi but she makes me feel like I NEED to save her
how are hags this powerful

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>>59051929
>she makes me feel like I NEED to save her
because you are a virgin thinking she would accept your seed

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>>59051889
>japs don't consider prostitution cheating

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>>59045230
>hag in vtubing
Either already married and is bullshitting to get simps or she is beyond saving.

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>>59052016
>she is beyond saving.
shes just like me fr

[Anonymous No.]

I long for a world in which femanons actually post tits

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>>59051980
in fairness, prostitution itself has complex definition there
>Formally only cover anal/vaginal penetration with a penis, also very illegal
>blowjob bars and soapland are all over the place and doesn't count as prostitution
>recently fingerbanging massage become popular as women demand equal services too. This too, is also legal.
>Host/Hostess sleeping with customers don't count if you don't get paid for it. So it could become infidelity case and grounds for divorce.
>etc
It is an incredibly interesting rabbit hole to dig.

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>>59048967
Working culture, internet destroying socializing in public places with strangers, women being indoctrinated into being ruthless against men, wrecking the power dynamic that normally would at least get the girl horny enough to fuck.

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>>59052259
>women being indoctrinated into being ruthless against men, wrecking the power dynamic that normally would at least get the girl horny enough to fuck.
We're talking Japan not South Korea.

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Am I supposed to know who those other 2 people are?

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>>59052356
>what is women treating men like ATMs
In first and second world countries a woman can easily fuck over the man if she wants to and the society cheers to it.
Do you really think a woman will want to fuck a man BENEATH her? Too many femdom hentais.

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I feel like there's Lui, Marine, Choco where no one in their fanbase would be mad if someone put a baby or four inside them

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>>59048288
Nordics do have naked sauna culture for skinship

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>>59051420
Once you are past college no one gives a fuck about your virginity status. Like it won't ever be brought up unless you are close with someone. So once the social pressure is gone who cares. Then if you have never had it the temptation really isn't that strong. Frankly looking at some friend settle with absolute dogs for a chance at frequent sex makes me feel like I'm in a better boat.

Just turned 30 and am sorta shocked how little I care at this point

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>>59053175
Don't you worry if you do get a girl how she'll react?

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>>59051890
Oh yeah capitalism fucked em good, shits happening in the US and the western occupied southern half of the Korean peninsula.

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>>59053233
Somewhat actually. I'd figure the best thing would be to make it known early. So either she'll bail after being rightly(?) freaked about by a 30 year old virgin or simply not care.

In fact when I was 23 I had a girl ghost me when she found out. Plus female friends in the past have mentioned that an old virgin itself is a red flag.

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>>59051710
I'm not talking rapey shit man but c'mon after a few drinks people start looking better girls and guys. Inhibitions get lowered people start dancing maybe some kissing maybe some over the clothes action in the hotel lobby. Then up to the room to fuck somebody.

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>>59053233
>implying anon will get a gf at this point
If he wasn't around people and girls much, then he wil be too awkward for that, especially he is kinda at "should be in serious relationship already" point.

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>>59053386
Well I wish you and my friends luck. I think that's their ideas too. Hopefully women at that age are more mature, but I'm a cynical fuck. 40 year old virgin had a happy ending atleast.

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>>59053175
>31yo kissless virgin
>recently found out from 27yo little sister that most of her friends had a huge crush on me when we were teenagers
i was on the verge of totally not caring anymore. now i whiplash back and forth between zen and crushing regret.
it's a bizarre feeling.

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>>59051277
Every country has arranged marriages from brown immigrants, you are being bred out by design

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>>59053175
I don’t even know if it’s worth it. I’m set for life. And most people speak of women like they’re the devil. But biology sucks and makes you want things even if it’s potentially harmful.

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>>59053562
Let me guess, those girls didn't actually bother to even interact with you to give you a hint or an opportunity to ask them out.

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>>59052870
Funny you say this because treating men like ATMs is how Lui thinks. Kek.

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>>59053454
I mean will fully admit an awkward retard until at least 22. End of college didn't work out sex wise and then just being in the workforce carried me along until this point. Not awkward anymore due to job experience, it just frankly seems like an incredible fucking hassle to deal with at this point.

>>59053478
Thanks anon, I frankly have no hope that woman are more mature at this age. Some of the shit my friends have to deal with around their women is straight up still high school shit.

>>59053562
I am thankfully(?) not a kissless virgin, but have never been or brought another person to orgasm. I will occasionally get a massive wave of regret over obvious signs I missed, but those moments are rare.

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>>59050882
I'm not that anon, but women must be all saints if they've no fault whatsoever to the worldwide low birthrate nowadays

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>>59053682
how did you know

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>>59052945
Finland isn't the whole of the Nordics

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>>59053678
I'm not sure what you mean by set for life, but that would be one of the few circumstances I would actually pursue a relationship in earnest. Being in a relationship would unironically not allow me to pursue certain hobbies anymore. I am above median income for my state, but relationships are very expensive.

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>>59053727
(You)

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>>59053878
I could live off inheritance for the rest of my life. I’m not exactly proud of it, but it’s the reality of the situation so I can’t deny it’s there.

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>>59053839
Because women are fucking retards who expect you to do all the legwork. Raised like princesses by society, waiting for their prince to do the perfect combination of "I don't cate, but I do care" crap because society said that actually doing something means the girl is a slut, unless she is actually slutting around, then she is "empowered". Also, asking someone out IS a social risk and women live and die by their social status.

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>>59054063
Then at that point the only risk to you is a woman manipulating the inheritance out of you. Which to be frank is a pretty big concern, but worth the risk if you think you have good risk management at least.

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>>59051625
Money.

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>>59053562
>>59053750
I'm not a virgin but I'm 40 and regret wasting my time on women who ended up being shitty people anyway so don't worry about it too much

[Anonymous No.]

Why people care if you're virgin or not?
I'm a kissless virgin but I don't work because I'm set for life(unless I buy a mansion or a super car), I have several hobbies and practice some sports, I travel quite a bit yet there's people who try to act superior when all they do is drink, use drugs and fuck in weekends, often that type of person doesn't even have a place to fall dead because of debts and shit like that
I'll never understand that, but whatever, I'll go watch Shuba's vod instead of thinking why

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>>59053665
Oh shit lemme guess it's the Jews fault you can't get laid?

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>>59054308
Do you mind taking care of another guy

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>>59054308
I like getting drunk doing drugs all the time and banging a fat girl once every 3 years.

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>>59054399
did you mean to post to twitter?

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>>59054308
It isn't universally like that. I know a lot of people who prefer to stay home and play video games instead of getting shitfaced and lost around town before waking up the next morning in the gutter. Focus on yourself and your own happiness, quit worrying about other people.

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>>59054561
One of my wizard buddies is like that. I tried to get him to come to the local convention and get drunk but he's not into any of that. Just likes to smoke weed and play videogames.

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>>59054515
No.
2016 was a long time ago can you please go back to wherever you were before that.

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>>59054561
Ever since I was 23, fat as fuck and unhealthy. I have resolved to never let peer pressure push me into being unhealthy. God it feels nice to not drink alcohol every week.

[Anonymous No.]

who am i? what am i? why am i here? why am i still here? what's my purpose? what's the point of it all?

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>>59054399
well no, certainly not directly. as a group they act as a destructive parasite to host societies though, so i guess you could say they do indirectly if you were so inclined.

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>>59048967
I can fix her *points erect penis towards Nippon*

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>>59054887
That's the lamest excuse I've ever heard a limp dicked faggot use.

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>>59054822
Get drunk, do drugs, and occasionally get laid. All while vTubers are on in the background.

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>>59055143
well you said it, not me

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>>59054822
The better question is: Where is this thread going?

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>>59047641
BASED

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>>59051625
The Yakuza government needs to sell more anime merch to the west. Without it... Japan just isn't going to make it...

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>>59054220
>>59054063
Imagine having a winning lottery ticket where you could safely retire in comfort....and you decide to put every last cent you have on the casino. Sure, there's always a chance you could double up and be EVEN MORE set for life, but far greater odds that you lose half or more and end up needing to go back to work. Risking everything you have on marriage (and yes, even prenups get thrown out a significant portion of the time) is possibly the most idealistic, "romanticized", and illogical thing you could do, but such decisions are always swayed by emotion, not logic.

Realistically, the options are to find similarly retired friends who can share your more expensive hobbies (moreso on having free time as a NEET than necessarily cash) and perhaps dabbling in purely recreational dating. Since you're /here/ and not already drowning in women, odds are dating apps and most of Western dating is dead to you, so the options end up being settling for someone far below you (either in looks, or as a gold digger), pay2win or swallowing your pride and joining the jannies by moving to SEA. Maybe you will become just as jaded where relationships feel akin to playing with a pet puppy but don't have any meaning beyond that.

As a retired pre-30 NEET who once went all-in on the self-improvement meme and arguably "made it" with an early retirement, I feel dealing with boredom and finding purpose will ultimately be the greatest challenge. It's certainly a first world/zeroth world problem to be complaining when set for life, but ultimately there comes a time when every video game, vtuber, anime, and hobby becomes dull despite having nearly infinite time/money to indulge in what you want. Maybe it's depression, maybe its existential nihilism, but only when you have infinite freedom do you question what actually makes you happy or gives meaning at all.

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>>59051625
Avoidant culture

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>>59049001
The trend with white people in western countries is just as bad if not worse than Japan. The only difference is western have immigration to pump up their numbers.

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>>59054618
I'd go with you anon

t. Awkward KHV trying to better himself.

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>>59054308
>Why people care if you're virgin or not?
only people who think sex is a commodity care about it

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>>59055994
It's WAY worse in the west thanks to woke culture, #MeToo, tons of fake shit like mattress girl etc

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>>59055994
Nah, they keep the pumping among themselves for the most part

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>>59055809
You just need a routine, it's been a while that I don't work and I "only" have 6 hours of free time

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>>59055809
>only when you have infinite freedom do you question what actually makes you happy or gives meaning at all.

That is certainly a unique problem, but to be frank I'll be lucky to retire on time (70). So my main concern is what to do with the time I do have for myself. Which at the present is actually filled with hobbies and friends. As stated a relationship just seems like a considerable hassle. I would like to think if I ever got the bag that my hobbies are unique enough to truly keep me occupied and without angst, but I can't say that for sure.

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>>59055809
I definitely agree with the idea that it's a gamble where you could easily get screwed over. But the human body doesn't necessarily listen to logic, and you sort of have to decide if you'll endure the occasional feeling of desire within you or if you're going to risk losing a lot to make it go away. For me, it's less about the romantic aspect and more about the feeling of genuine connection and trust. That sort of thing isn't easy to find no matter where you go. I guess I'm lucky in the sense that I don't get bored easily, I could sit around doing nothing and end up finding some way to have fun with it.

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>>59055809
but can you really say that a desire to start a family is any more or less logical than a desire to maintain the freedom to indulge in hobbies and recreation?

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>>59050559
Nah it’s like middle easterners are middle easterners even if they are in Asia. They are rich, so even if we consider them different, we tolerate them when they don’t blow stuff up.

Street shitters and seaniggers on the other hand, is like how NA has to recognize Mexico as part of NA. I’d still prefer cholos over beef worshipers.

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>>59056016
You in the northeast and you like liquor?

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>>59055809
Just move to a country with sane laws. If you truly have fuck off money then you can live comfortably anywhere

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>>59051625
I don't know if they fuck or not, but their work culture barely gives them room to exist let alone maintain a family.

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>>59054186
How many girls did you ask out in high school?

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>>59055809
Games, animes, streams and those things are for free time, learn to play instruments for one or two hours daily, make a game for one or two hours daily, practice some sport for a hour or two, read books a hour a day, write novels or books a hour or two, learn a language a hour daily, learn to draw one or two hours daily
I recommend filling at least 5-6 hours of your day with these activities or something else you might find interesting
With 5-6 hours of that plus 8-9 hours sleeping you would still have 9-11 hours of free time to do whatever, having your whole day being free time obviously it's going to get boring

[Anonymous No.]

If you listen close enough you can hear her eggs withering every stream

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>>59055809
Gamble
Gamble
Gamble
Put it all on black. You could double your money.

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>>59057456
You're delusional anon. There are no eggs left

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>>59057456
I think if she actually revealed she got a husband and is going to take a break to make babby we wouldn't even have drama threads about it.

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>>59057642
she does feel more id than jp

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>>59051625
same reason as the rest of the 1st world countries: economic factors and the fact that we're emulating the Perfect Ones experiment. Just like with the mice, we've got so many necessities so readily available we simply coast off it and don't try to achieve anything higher.

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>>59057642
I think everyone would be supportive

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>>59057778
>economic factors
Even the 'poor' in most countries have greater economical freedom than the boomers had

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>>59057869
That's not true. I can't afford a house my dad could with a similar job. I definitely could not afford a kid. So I'm just gonna live with him watch vTubers and spend my paychecks on super chats and merch.

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>>59051625
>>59046147
>>59045230
>introduce birth control
>no one gets pregnant
>surprised pikachu
Yeah no shit, the reason people had so many children in the past is we have very high sex drives and rapid estrus cycles. There's no biological reason or drive to really reproduce, only to have sex. And historically that didn't matter at all since sex naturally lead to reproduction. Now essentially the entire population is satisfied entirely by mutual masturbation and feels no need to ever reproduce deliberately.
Ironically they aren't having kids because they have TOO MUCH SEX!
Remove birth control and the population would EXPLODE.

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What is this bros? I thought all Japanese guys are lonely incels and only the "1%" gets pussy?

https://youtu.be/CEBdTFd0Cg8
https://youtu.be/CEBdTFd0Cg8
https://youtu.be/CEBdTFd0Cg8

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>>59057953
>ok papa

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>>59058033
>interviews taking place at the clubing discrict
>wonder why there are no virgins or men with little body counts around

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>>59058033
It's almost like monogamy that has been forced upon humans for millennia doesn't work that hot.

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At this stage, my biggest interest is unironically sociology and studying the complete collapse of birthrates and family structures across Asia and the West. Guess being an econ/sociology major helps contextualize things, although I'm far too lazy to put out real academic studies on the subject matter.

Ultimately I can view society through the lens of both someone "successful" and also as a complete failure of a reclusive NEET who was your stereotypical loser weeb growing up. If there's one thing I've seen from "elite" high-finance/law/tech society in SF and NY, it's that nerdy former incels get roped into early marriages by gold diggers once they start pulling in 250-500k annually before 30. You'd be amazed to see how desperate Asian parents get when trying to auction off their daughters who are nearing 30 to the book-smart former incel who now has a successful job. Sure, there's an appeal to going from being completely invisible/treated as a joke by women to suddenly becoming chased after once you have your fancy degree/high paying job, but ultimately you know they are all just trying to be parasites leeching off your success (and ultimately divorce you for half or more of your retirement).

Perhaps this is what drives the interest in vtubers and parasocial relationships: it's the geisha/hostess/emotional prostitute experience where you can buy into GFE at minimal cost with no danger to your personal assets/wellbeing. There are plenty of simps who get milked dry and ruin their lives off GFE just like IRL betas get married and milked out of everything they own, but there are those who can enjoy the fantasy of your chuuba waifus without actually delving too deep to being an actual gachikoi. In theory, could I leverage wealth/status/education to become an Asian parent's dream catch and get marriage interviews with your oshi? Quite possibly, but why would you ever want to actually get married to a vtuber/streamer/egirl? Sure, you can enjoy their work as an "artist", but actual life does not involve them role playing as your waifu and putting on a performance 24/7. See "White Album" (1, not 2) for an interesting example of how dating an idol quickly falls apart and is moreso for the ego boost.

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>>59058033
This is like making an interview in a monastery and the result be that most women don't fuck out

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>>59058598
??? it's after the end of monogamy that the birth rate has started to decline along with the rise in promiscuity

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>>59058635
Man SF is crazy. I'm glad my brother met his Asian wife while they were still in school and they both pull in bread.

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>>59052356
I don't blame Korean women for avoiding men, that place is a shithole. When your president's elected on an anti-feminist platform and men regularly threaten to shoot up gacha game companies for bathing suits that aren't skimpy enough... I'd quit dating too desu.

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>>59058779
They're too based then

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>>59058779
Way to erase history there anon

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>>59058779
wasn't SK controlled by some crazy feminist cult until recently? good to hear they're swinging the other direction if what you say is true.

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>>59058960
Megalia and they had the goal to indoctrinate men into becoming cattle and had control over both the government and all the big businesses. After they were discovered some of their lower cult members took to the streets with knives in hand

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>>59057067
Curious what you think of as a "country with sane laws". Most of the lower budget and "sane law" options are unironically 3rd world countries, primarily in SEA (Thailand, Philippines, Bali, etc). Memes about becoming a Jakartan aside, even with the money to live comfortably in any country (let's assume something like $100-150k passive income annually), there isn't really a compelling option and I ultimately end up just being a hermit NEET in Burgerland, which is hardly different than being a NEET anywhere else in the world as a digital nomad. Can't see Canada/Western Europe being any better. Sadly I learned Chink and I can't imagine wanting to live in CN/HK long term, maybe TW could be nice if it wasn't likely to get invaded in a few years. Dont know nearly enough JP/KR to want to live there, and even those societies are rapidly crumbling due to becoming cyberpunk style dystopias with negative birthrate, awful work cultures, and a decline in traditionalism.

>>59056261
>>59057418
The main question surrounds finding something interesting/meaningful enough to be worth adding to your routine. Already been through the wringer with hating music/arts/sports after being pushed Asian parent style into varsity HS athletics, competitive violin/piano, and weekly drawing/painting/sketching lessons that went nowhere. Tried out the gymbro life throughout college and got mostly /fit/, worked hard/played hard as a drunkard financebro in NYC, got bored out of my mind trying to learn to enjoy "high culture" dance/theater/opera/symphony etc. If anything, jadedness just makes me want to never touch any of those again, and a disdain for competitiveness/technical skill even prevents me from enjoying most video games anymore (there's no enjoyment in mastering technical skills or competing against others). Went from spending thousands of hours on MOBAs/FPS/card games etc to just completing mobile gacha dailies since it's passive and takes no skill alongside passively consuming content such as audiobooks/documentaries/youtube videos/anime etc.

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>>59054308
Virginity/physical sexual companionship only truly matters if your goal in life is to have a family.

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>>59045230
Save her from what

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>>59045230
japan needs to stop eating rice and starts to eat more meat
enough of herbivore men
>>59058598
monogamy was forced to build society hence why its on the ten commandment

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>>59055809
Your last paragraph is literally just having everything in life given to you, but not what you actually care for which is non-meme true love.

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>>59059426
Actually a good point. The rise in herbivores coincide with the adaption of the western diet which replaces meat with sugars and starch

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>>59055809
Another young retired for life neet here. (Not that wealthy as I only have around 30K$ a year, so I have to pick and choose where to spend my money quite carefully)
All I'm doing in life is trying to enjoy myself and focus on things that bring me fulfillment instead of just instant gratification
Now I just have to find a hag to marry..

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>>59058635
Ironically most men would be the most happy with an actual truly loving wife and children but chasing the “make huge money” path in life makes this harder.

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>>59048783
I think they're taking the westoid pill
Japan is /becoming/ more and more like America and they're ok with it, at least younger gens
They think japan is bad but they never visited LA, Europe or south america, they haven't seen the awful truth

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>>59059697
>have to find a hag to marry
why even?

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>>59056606
>>59056468
The thing is....is there a "desire to start a family" anymore? Some people still have it, but if you look into survey stats from young people (alongside the general birth rate trend across the first world), the decline isn't solely due to people being unable to afford kids. Dual-income no-kids lifestyle (DINK) and financial independence-retire early (FIRE) are certainly growing, and much of that centers around NOT having a family/kids since those expenditures would invalidate the chill life and require decades of additional work.

Think about it this way: $2m cash is the minimum retirement threshold where it produces $80k at 4% annually (conservative withdrawal assumption), which is more than enough to live off comfortably while never running out. If you factor in cost of wife/kids (think about all the private school, external lessons, college expenditures, etc), and you'll see that nest egg disappear overnight while being sent back to wagie life. I'm sure some people find kids adorable and their meaning of life, but I'd argue that's a rapidly shrinking minority and I certainly dealt with enough kids that I abhor the idea of having any of my own.

>>59059471
There was certainly a time where I was also a naive romanticist, but I've seen enough of reality to no longer believe in such notions. I literally haven't seen a single positive supportive relationship out of ALL the friends/family/acquaintences I know, and I've surveyed hundreds of Asian families where the results are overwhelmingly negative. Most are stuck "for the kids", societal pressure to avoid becoming a lonely hag/bachelor, or simple transactional relationships for status/greencard/wealth/etc.

Considering I'm still here watching romance anime, GFE vtubers, and reading visual novels, I've clearly been brainwashed into the appeal of romance and waifuism, yet IRL relationships are simply too toxic and unapproachable as a whole. There's a lot to be learned from spending the entirety of high school/college being completely invisible as a proto-incel, and then suddenly self-improving enough to be widely desired afterwards. I hate to use matrix ideology, but once you've seen reality for what it is (around dating, relationships, the toxicity of Asian family values, social climbing, etc), it's really hard to close your eyes to it and go back to enjoying it even when you are now on the winning side.

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>>59046147
I actually enjoy the schadenfreude.
>woman talks about having sex
>cries she never has kids
It's great. The amount of guys they fucked, the years they spent sleeping around and they could have had 12 kids easy, especially with modern medicine making childbirth safer for the mother. Instead they popped birth control pills, riding the carosel until they realize they are now too old to seduce chad and they scramble to convince a beta provider to settle down.

It's great.
This is the only reason to watch whoretubers.

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>>59059892
>private school, external lessons, college expenditures
thinking that is needed is part of your problem

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>>59059892
From your own observations the solution seems to obviously be marrying non-Asian, which I’ll personally attest that the only loving relationships l’ve seen have been either half Asian or non-Asian.

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Guys you can stop LARPing. You know Japanese girls don't date guys anymore because there is no reason to.

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>>59058033
>>59058598
meanwhile in reality

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>>59059797
I don't even think that most are talking about the "make huge money" path, since it's genuinely a small minority that are that obsessed with money/status that they keep grinding after "making it". Even in Ivy League/NYC Wall St circles, a significant (80-90%) drop out of the path once they have "made it", with enough resume credentials and cash savings to chill out on a cushy 40hr corp dev/middle manager job making 100k vs making $1m+ grinding 100hr weeks. I'm certainly part of that "drop out" path since money really holds little tangible value unless you are obsessed with name brands/fancy cars/mansions/instagram girls etc. Most people would indeed be satisfied with a traditional loving relationship/family, but society has largely declined to the point where that isn't viable and few people genuinely want that life. Even if you look at the old expat community that moved to Asia, you'll see the very same "traditional Asian values" (even in Manila where divorce is literally illegal) basically come down to "can you provide a better life for her family" with your money, passport, and status. In comparison, high society in East Asia really isn't any better with the same shallow comparisons of status even among the ultra-wealthy.

>>59059697
Similar vibe here. While I can make significantly more, I realistically live off less than 20k while being a hermit in my childhood room (I paid off the house, so arguably it's mine right?). The biggest challenge is indeed finding that sense of "fulfillment", since I've been struggling with emptiness and a lack of enjoyment in things that used to be much more vibrant. Perhaps I'm in a similar boat where naive romanticism is the only "appealing" desire, yet we know it's essentially a hopeless effort. Considering I can't even commit to owning a puppy since that's far too much effort and commitment, I highly doubt any relationship is possible.

>>59060012
I don't believe in any of those to begin with, and the entire education racket is essentially a complete scam, but I know countless examples where an Ivy League/top 20 US diploma is basically the only way that many nerds have escaped poverty and made it big. The point isn't about what I think is or isn't necessary, but you go to any Asian parent and ask to marry their daughter, and this is the expectation that you need to uphold. There are always exceptions, but if you want to be a part of "elite society", this is the cost you need to bear. Considering I decided to cut and run at the first opportunity to become a loner hermit rather than stay within that society, you can probably tell my view on the matter.

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>>59059697
Is that $30k/year before or after taxes? I keep thinking I might make it to retire by 40 or 45, likely having around 150k to 200k a year passive income, before taxes. I imagine taxes will tank that to half the amount, and by that time even 75k might not be enough to live alone and I'll have to find flat mates or move back in with family. Living with family though I could probably do fine with 20k/year after taxes and retire in another couple of years assuming no changes to my pay and expenses.
I make roughly 66.5k a year after taxes with my current job, with the potential to triple that within the next 10 years if I play my cards right. But the way things are going still has me worried despite being more well off than most already. I even half regret living on my own now since I save less than half of what I did while living with family, though having freedom and not worrying about someone else trying to sleep is amazing.

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>>59059892
Your observations about Asian families are similar to mine, but this is a generational issue. Women back then had few options to meet new people, let alone find someone they actually get along with and share interests. Nowadays it's much easier to find someone that 'gets you'
fuck having kids though, you need like 700k per kid from birth-college

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>>59060446
I find it hard to believe that infidelity are on the same level as religious differences or career changes. So those "stats" are highly suspicious

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>>59060304
Considering how most Americans argue about how the West has fallen and they need to find "traditional" women in Asia, I'm not sure that's a real solution. I just happen to know the Asian community best and did a decent amount of sociological research in the field, but I would think that ultimately the situation is similar no matter where you go. If even the ultra-conservative traditional East is subject to the very same hypergamy and social ladder climbing that we despise, what hope is there in the West where dating apps, Instagram, and decadent degeneracy is even more prevalent?

>>59060586
Sure, this issue is nothing new, and based on my relatives/family friends, most couples settled down as the "practical" option at the time. If they are nearing 30, need to combine resources, and build up a family, they'll just take what they can get. I've seen a LOT of feminist literature these days spreading across KR/CN about how to end the stigma of "leftover women" (i.e. hags) and why they should be more independent/not get driven into unhappy marriages of convenience. For once, I'll agree that getting roped into such arrangements is awful, but especially for the guy. Who wants a loveless marriage to essentially a resource parasite? The Indian community sometimes seems to make things work with arranged marriages where they "learn to love each other" over decades, but the realistic outcome is the rampant cheating you see across Asia. A significant portion are indeed loveless relationships done moreso out of political/business interests (ESPECIALLY in high society), where both parties end up having affairs while being married on paper for the sake of the family.

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>>59060804
Yeah it's crazy how East Asian women are conditioned into accepting infidelity. One of my exes was part of the 0.1% and told me it was extremely common for married men to have affairs or just straight up fuck escorts. She herself was cheated on by a previous ex and still remained in the relationship

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>>59060804
>where dating apps, Instagram, and decadent degeneracy is even more prevalent?

All the western relationships I personally know of met the traditional ways of actual physical meetings on a night out. I do agree dating apps/instagram never really work out long term. I’ll again attest this is through small towns and overseas military lifestyle to farther your studies.

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>>59060804
>"traditional" women
You need the rigid rules of religion, along with the feeling that breaking those rules leads to hellish torment, for a chance of that. Probably worth it to fake it just for the chance of a sane woman. Not like most religions expect you to make much of a sacrifice anyway

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>>59059256
It's hard to find that, to say the true I don't care that much about music but I practice some instruments 2 hours a day(total time), I never wanted to be a game development but now I put at least a hour and half making a hololive game, I spend half a hour before sleep to learn languages, I write some novels for a hour too and I draw for a hour and a half
None of those things I truly have a passion, but with time it turns into a habit
And the most important thing is taking it easy, of course you should strive to get better if you spend hours in something but I never thought about turning a pro or earning money with those things, hobbies are for that

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>>59051625
Toxic work culture:

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>>59051707
>Isn't this the cuckold artist who got too scared to make ntr doujins because people sent mean messages?
Lmao. Based

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>>59060543
Not that anon, but to give some perspective: you don't need to factor in 50% taxes since you should be retiring in a state-tax exempt state (don't be a dumbass who insists on retiring in CA/NY etc). Taxes will be closer to 30% once you factor in marginal tax rates, and most of your income can come through dividends/long term capital gains which can be even lower. Ultimately expenses come down to where you want to live: ultra cheap options include Latam and SEA, although there are plenty of low cost states in the US as well. Heck, look into the people retiring in the Italian/Japanese countryside since population decline means you can get a run-down fixer-upper house for free.

I would argue that 150k-200k passive income is pretty extraordinarily luxurious, and I was making over 500k annually at my peak. Realistically I can get by on less than 20k (ex-rent) just from growing up broke and learning how to budget/save effectively. Do I need to scrounge up coupon savings? Not really, but it's nice to buy a quarter of a cow at effectively $3 a pound and have steak for months for dirt cheap. I ultimately decided to just live with parents since they could use the help anyways, and I don't really gain much from living alone as a hermit elsewhere. Alternatively, I could go be a hermit out in Bangkok/Manila/Taipei for around $500 or less in rent, so it's not a huge expenditure either if you play it smart. Once you have housing settled, anything above 100k is purely luxury "play money": are you traveling the world, going on luxury cruises, chasing down Michelin star reservations, playing golf? A simple quiet retirement with cheap hobbies doesn't require nearly that much, and you can easily enjoy life without needing to subscribe to such high numbers as 200k passive (assuming you withdraw 4% annually to never run out of money, that's upwards of $4-5m cash you need invested). You should check out fatFIRE (sorry for reddit), but once you start getting upwards of $5-10m, your concerns are closer to hiring butlers and managing properties than scrounging up pennies for retirement. The regular FIRE community can provide better answers for a more working-class realistic retirement where survival is closer to the 50k mark annually. That said, I'm still working to some extent on side gigs to build up additional wealth, and it certainly wouldn't hurt to make it to big milestones like $10 or $20m, but that's really not a necessity and moreso a luxury goal (and for additional safety just in case).

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Fine, I'll do it

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>>59045230
There's this japanese drama called Tokyo Girl about a career woman in her mid 30's trying to settle down and failing miserably at every turn, some grim blackpill stuff.
Whenever webms from it are posted on /tv/ I think of Choco and Lui.

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>>59050882
>“women are big sluts from 15-25”
If this is untrue why aren't they able to get married? They brag about sex, but never get commitment. Almost as if they gave themselves away.

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>>59061707
they are being deluded by psychopaths and slick fuckers

if you are an young man and responsible, insist a little bit more on them and you will get yourself a women

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>>59061092
Maybe being exposed to that side of East Asian relationships messed me up, or maybe it's due to never growing out of classic harem anime. Ultimately, the entire idea of fidelity is puzzling, and honestly I grew up wondering why cheating was considered a big deal at all. Considering I'm otherwise rather traditional/conservative, I find it strange that Asian culture really gives a free pass in regards to escorts/mistresses, and this is consistent across CN/KR/TW, and even in Thai/PH/SEA as a whole.

I think ultimately this stems from a patriarchal cultural perspective where nobility is more or less expected to practice polygamy (and this culture is still extended to political/business elite in Asia). Why would a wealthy successful businessman/politician need to restrict himself to one wife when he can have many mistresses? In such cases, problems generally arise when a mistress challenges the wife's place or causes external negative attention through scandal, but otherwise it's to be expected. I think overall there just isn't the Western conception of relationships as equal partnerships at the "elite level" (that only applies to the working class). Instead, marriages are moreso done at the "clan" level, hence so long as girl's family gets enough benefits from marrying her off, it doesn't matter if she is treated as a wife or mistress so long as it befits the status/benefits gained from the transaction.

In theory, I should really appreciate how being smart/wealthy/elite can allow for a IRL harem, but in reality I end up as a shut-in hermit instead. If you think about it, that first marriage is all about political/business connections, and I've been to such scheming arrangements. Ultimately either you are the prey for someone else to cling to your coattails to lift them up, or you need to be an exceptionally ambitious social climber to marry into a wealthy family that will give you the connections/social standing to make it big. As nice as it sounds, ultimately you are either being used and manipulated, or you sell your soul to try and rise up. I've seen countless CEOs/elite execs (both in Asia and NYC) who were relative nobodies, but managed to leverage opportunities in Ivy League schools/top finance firms to marry up into the elite class. Regardless of which position you enter, the ultimate arrangement is closer to simple pay2play escorting and sugar babying, which also hardly offers the idealized relationship most are looking for.

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>>59054399
Yes, it's the Jews fault

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>>59061897
good advice. except we're living in a world where even married men don't dare being alone with an unknown woman in case she's more crazy than your average woman

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>>59059991
It makes me feel a bit sad. I'm not saying they're not at fault, they screwed up. I suppose it's more of the fact that humanity is pretty messed up in a lot of ways. And a lot of people just want to obtain certain things before realizing it could never make them truly happy. It's not like I haven't made mistakes involving short term gratification either, I'm no saint, but I wonder why there's always been this strange glorification of extreme socialization and showing off. Grinding to the top, social status lording, enjoying everything in the moment, cutthroat lifestyle that encourages relationships that feel transactional and shallow.

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>>59061092
but anon told me asians never have sex so how are they getting cheated on

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>>59061154
I don't necessarily think you NEED religion to enforce that on an individual level, but it's certainly necessary if you want to enforce ethics on a population level. The main problem is that any relationship/marriage basically allows her to put a loaded gun to your head, akin to raising a pet tiger. No matter how much you love and care for them, will that same affection last until the day you die, or will one bad day/one minor accident cause a tragedy? Plenty of examples of people raising exotic pets for years before they get killed for seemingly no reason. Especially for someone with existing trust issues, I don't think it's possible to be that willing to open up and be vulnerable, especially when your entire life is on the line.

I'll bring up the Philippines as an example since I've been researching expat life there, but even when divorce is officially outlawed and the country is officially Catholic, the very same Western degeneracy spreads like a cancer. Single motherhood and cheating are rampant, people unofficially "divorce" all the time yet crazy ex'es can come back and blackmail/imprison guys for infidelity with a "married" woman, and feminist protection laws can have you arrested for accusations as light as "promising her a better life and leaving her". Considering this is supposedly the "moral Christian" promised land for expats, I'd say the entirety of the marriage system is irreparably broken. Don't even get me started on how bad things get in Thailand or Bali, much less China.

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>>59062122
I usually roll my eyes about such things but that's some crazy over-representation kek thanks for the laugh

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>>59057953
you are the most retarded motherfucker in this thread

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>>59052920
>Choco
I see more people wanting her to find someone than I do people wanting to marry her. Lets be real, if you wouldn't marry her it's not fair to hope some other guy falls for the trap just so you can feel good she got her happy ever after. The thing most people don't want to admit is that a good chunk of girls in Hololive are not wife material. I'm not even doing it because I dislike X, it's simply true. E.g. Pekora is dependent as fuck and non functional as an adult hence the reclusive life until she became a vtuber. Aqua is non-functional, Mel is non-functional, various girls are unironically mentally ill, etc. I honestly can't think of a good option, even nice girls like Watame seem waaaay to emotional crying all the time. You may think it's ok in small doses, but living with that 24/7 would be hard as hell.

The best option is unironically A-chan. Second best would be Subaru, then I would say Baelz.

>>59053562
Bro I'm autistic and realized only a few years ago that a girl actually liked me in HS. I'm a wizard now, why the fuck did my brain decide to pull that up. I was ignorant and didn't care, but now it pulls this on me over a decade after it was too late to change anyything. FML.

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>>59062363
>Philippines
Anon... those organizations investing heavily into the country should be a big red flag for you in regards to where the country is headed

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>>59058598
if your point is about polygamy and polyamory those things collapse very often

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>>59062510
that's why you take two so they can handle each others baggage as nature intended

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>>59062371
>that's some crazy over-representation
Many such cases when it comes to this particular ethno-religious group.

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>>59060543
It's after tax and I already own my own place, also at this level my take home should increase at or above inflation.

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>>59062568
What are the alternatives then....preferably English speaking. If I was willing to learn fluent Japanese, I could try out their rural countryside and pass as a local. Only other nicer alternative I could come up with was Taiwan (close enough to Japanese culture while being affordable and I speak the language). In general, I don't think being an Asian guy gets any favors in LatAm, Eastern Europe, or the Middle East, so options end up being rather limited.

Out of all the SEA countries, the options basically boil down to PH, Thai, and Bali (probably not the rest of Indo), maybe you can squeeze in Viet as a secondary short stay option. Considering the large number of SEA residents on this board, maybe there are suggestions for the nicer areas of Manila or Jakarta?

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>>59057953
Is this you speech for sunday cult meetings?

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>>59062510
Another redflag with these girls I never see anybody bring up is how a good half of them have a problem with gacha
That means gambling addiction

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>>59062510
I would prefer a retarded like Aqua than women who dream that I cheated her and talks about it for half a hour until I say sorry

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>>59057953
Why did this post cause so much athiest seethe?
Why is this thread still up?

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>>59063157
>spoiler
Because nobody has insulted Mori yet, that's the only thing that makes janny do his job

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>>59062510
It really becomes a two-way street of incompatability when it comes to dating an idol. First of all, she's "elite" due to her status, and is well off enough to not need any support. Thus, she only wants someone even BETTER, which writes off most fans. Secondly, on the opposite side of the spectrum, most guys who have that kind of specs in terms of wealth/status probably wouldn't want to deal with an actual recluse of a vtuber when they can get someone more attractive/functional IRL.

This basically breaks down the relationship dynamic to the point where she holds all the cards, and only needs someone to support them, either as emotional support, psychological counseling, or assistant. Most guys with the wealth and status would be looking more for her to pamper them as their oshi, not be a clingy liability they need to work and care for. Basically the relationship dynamic flips to the point where both parties want to be pampered, and neither is willing to compromise since neither has to. It's similar to a realization where you understand "oh, I don't want a wife/gf, what I actually want is a maid", and for those who have the means, the latter is far easier and more convenient since cash can be cheaper and easier than putting in emotional/physical effort.

Even for superfans and gachikois (and yes, we all know about the random oil barons who drop akas every stream), any actual relationship would likely be ultra toxic and not worth the headache when they already have a good income. Think about it this way: if you are already a low tier millionaire, would you sell your soul to be the pet for an unattractive billionaire? At some point, that incremental money isn't worth it, and they can be perfectly happy with their upper middle class/lower upper class living, rather than being desperate living out in the slums.

If you want to "save" your oshi, start looking into grooming struggling 2-3 views, maybe maxing out at Bae's gf Miori. She's a fascinating thought experiment as an overall great GFE oshi, technically a small indie, failed out of school with questionable home life. Then again, as a successful and wealthy guy who her parents would love, would you really want a damaged menhera drunkard whose full time job is being a digital escort? As much as the saviorfag in me loves that idea, the reality is probably not nearly as rosy, especially if she's actually fat and nowhere near as cute as her model. In contrast, Bae is already too famous/successful as a Holo girl, and even then, you only like her as a 2D quirky zoomer anime girl, the reality of a normie dancer ABG girl is an instant turnoff for most weebs who instantly know her "type" as the kind of girl they despise (and despite weebs in turn).

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>>59062797
>I could try out their rural countryside and pass as a local
How rural are we talking here? The only issue I've heard from others are when their Japanese gets good enough that the natives seem to start having sort of uncanny valley feelings. But given your current situation I don't see any reason why you couldn't try out living there for however long a visa you can get or until you feel that it's not for you.
A bit hard to keep track of anons but you could look into assisting temporarily with some rural business depending on your other interests. If nothing else, there's a decent chunk who like to get the viewpoint of foreigners to expand their market appeal.

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From what I'm gathering, love is a myth and I should isolate myself from all of humanity.

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>>59063549
Romantic love is.
You can still love your parents, your siblings, your friends and your dog just fine.

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>>59061238
>I would argue that 150k-200k passive income is pretty extraordinarily luxurious
Yeah that was with the assumption of pre-tax and assuming that it gets cut 50%. That also came with the assumption that my current mutual fund savings continue to accrue 8%-10% annually. I agree once you have a place to live paid off then the needed income drops drastically, but the amount you need to have such a place is ridiculously high right now unless you are willing to live somewhere with really shit internet and other issues. At the very least I want to have a fiber connection wherever I decide to retire, since most of my hobbies benefit heavily from good internet.
As for moving to other countries for cheap, there's often a lot of caveats you need to consider since you often can't just move somewhere and magically become a permanent resident. You usually have to meet some criteria unless you are willing to spend excessive amounts of money to bypass it.

>>59063009
I think that is fairly normalized in nipland, sadly. Something about a good way to boost the country's cash flow instead of having everyone save up and prevent money from circulating.

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>>59063626
My parents have the same issue with social status based beliefs so they're out. And I don't have any of the rest of those.

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>>59046147
As all good and sane people will do. Only the selfish, arrogant and retarded will be left at sind point in an amalgamation of shit.

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>>59063632
And so is pachinko, the entire thing is fucking cancer, gambling dressed up
If they lived in the west they'd hang out half of the day at the local casino

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>>59063379
Again....sadness from choosing to learn Chinese in HS instead of Japanese, and then not devoting myself to learning JP in college while multiple friends did. Appearance wise I can probably pass for Japanese if I actually learned the language, and knowing kanji is definitely a plus, but it's a lot of effort that I'm not sure if I'm willing to put in (then again, all the time I've spent reading CN and machine TL'd JP webnovels and VNs would probably be enough to learn JP already).

Realistically I'm looking into spending some time as a JP tourist (maybe run the course of the 3m visa and see how that goes), but probably staying around the major metro areas. Would probably also just travel around SEA to see how viable life is out in Manila/Bangkok, where biggest concern is cheap cost of living and being able to have hired help to make NEET life as comfy as possible. I already have enough remote work to survive without needing to find something to do locally, but I suppose it could be interesting to explore more of semi-rural Japan and enjoy the local culture.

>>59063632
I think you might be vastly overestimating the cost of living in cheaper areas, especially if you consider going abroad. Realistically you can live for <$2k a month even in the really nice areas of Manila or Bangkok, and that comes out to just $20-30k a year. If you go to the quieter retirement areas of Texas, Florida, or anywhere else with 0% state tax, things can also be relatively affordable with houses closer to $300k or so depending on how far out you go. I'm with you on needing good internet, although perhaps I can get by with less than fiber for the most part. If you look at residency, Philippines is by far the easiest, with second being Thai and maybe Bali thereafter (you really don't need the super expensive Thai Golden/Elite visas etc). Both basically just have you paying a few hundred bucks to renew and you're set, and you can also just infinitely renew tourist visas every 90 days (and at worst take a brief vacation to JP/another SEA country for a few days every 3 months....you are retired after all). It's really not that expensive nor difficult, and with a bit of compromise, you can get to retirement a lot faster than you expect (albeit make sure you can weather a downturn in mutual fund....stonks sadly don't always go up). Godspeed anon.

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>>59063341
>a normie dancer ABG girl
A what?

Dating a fan, or a fan dating a vtuber would be miserable for both, since vtubing is entertainment and the fan will see the vtuber without the persona, while the vtuber has to deal with seeing the fan sperg about her not staying in character all the time. Streaming still allows lots of chance to present yourself differnely to who you are, especially with your face hidden and people who state your behavior is merely kayfabe at times.

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>>59063632
>save up and prevent money from circulating
Meanwhile, the corpos compete in how much cash they can lock up for no good reason whatsoever. See the financial statements from niji & cover for example

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>>59062510
wait, how deficient is pekora?

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>>59059226
what a fucking shithole

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>>59063341
I'm in a weird situation myself where I did the saviorfag thing backwards. I "rescued" and took in an autistic girl who dropped out of college and now she wants to become a vtuber.

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>>59064042
on the level of baqua

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>>59057953
this but unironically

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>>59063549
>>59063626
Effectively this....I basically see that parental love is basically all that I can ever have (thankfully). No siblings, barely any long term friends who can relate to the first world problems as a retired NEET, and too lazy/commitment issues to even get a dog since its too much effort. Romantic love can only exist in fiction, and I really enjoy my GFE ASMR, visual novel dating sims, and other romance drama anime (especially the soap opera kind like Kuzu no Honkai). The closest approximation IRL is unironically with the mentally damaged type that will approximate the yandere experience. Perhaps being a shut-in hermit is for my own safety give my horrible taste in emotionally damaged/traumatized menhera yanderes who can at least put on an extraordinary act of unconditional love and attachment (at least before she ruins your life).

>>59064198
See above.....rescuing a damaged autistic waifu is the saviorfag dream, and it will almost certainly backfire and ruin your life in some way eventually. That said....god damn this guy actually had the balls to go outside and actually groom a pre-0view to become his oshi housewife. If this somehow magically doesn't blow up in your face, you will live the dream. Sadly if only that was possible for the rest of us....

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>>59064042
VERY
She decided to be a kindergarden teacher because the only people she felt she could relate to were very little kids

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>>59064198
Hey. You could end up with a decent income source as her manager then

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>>59064326
needy streamer overdose reference

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>>59064379
then you missed the plot

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>>59064029
>>59063632
As an econ major...I can say that gacha addiction really has nothing to do with money circulating or "locking down cash for no reason". While I'm hardly an expert on JP finances, the very act of akasupa, whaling on gacha, and pachinko inherently ARE ways in which money is circulating....out of the pockets of simps/gambling addicts and into the corporations. From there, corporations now have cash to spend/invest/return to shareholders. If you want to make an argument about JP companies holding vastly larger cash reserves than most US companies, that's definitely a thing, but even Apple and other major US companies also hold huge reserves "just in case" and don't just give every cent back in dividends.

Japan unironically gives negative interest rates since people DON'T spend their individual money and just put it in the bank. By that metric, better to have the company hold onto it compared to individual people stashing their cash in bank vaults. Deflation happens since the country needs to increase monetary velocity (i.e. how many times money is spent before it all ends up in a bank), and the problem is that people would rather stuff it under their pillow/bank instead of going outside to buy something. If pachinko and gambling is the way to get people to spend their cash, technically it IS a good thing for the economy (well, aside from the gambling addictions and other destructive factors from funding socially negative industries instead of productive ones).

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>>59064290
I'm honestly expecting her to give it a shot for a year or less, fail to see any growth and drop the whole thing forever. In fact I'm counting on it. And after that I can just tell her I want her to be the mother of my children and we should get married.

>>59064326
Yeah it's funny how she's expecting me to do all the "behind the camera heavy lifting". The only reason I even browse this board is to do research. I don't know if it's the autism or just women brain in general.

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>>59051625
Japan and S korea have above avg IQ people that understand that the middle class is being fucked and they can't afford children. The US people understand as well to an extent; we are below replacement rate but have immigration to make up for it. So yes they are having sex just not having children.

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>>59064042
She can hardly speak to people becuase she's shy. They even had to do an audio recording and she couldn't complete it becuase she was too shy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYQtRogWSaw

I'm an introvert but you need to be able to talk to people to function, and fuck knows how she could act as an authority figure over her kids if/when they fuck around in public.

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How many holos have cats by the way?

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>>59064646
The saviorfag's dream....and an absolute trainwreck that will hopefully not ruin your life permanently. I can very much relate to the idea of picking up a stray abandoned puppy and giving it a loving home, but it's one thing to idealize that, and another to actually go out and pick up an autistic girl. I respect the effort, but make sure you know what you're getting into when you decide to marry dead weight that can easily ruin your life at any turn. Look up horror stories of marrying autistic/mentally deficient individuals, and how they might end up taking out massive loans in your name, become completely non-functional and leave you to do everything for the "family", or otherwise be easily manipulated into selling you out. If you genuinely have the stomach for a lot of misery and struggle, godspeed anon. I just sincerely hope you know what you're getting into and you have the strength to carry on without regret.

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>>59064621
I weren't really arguing against spending. As you say, a healthy economy is like a healthy heart
I were more so pointing out the dichotomy as I found it to be a funny one
>productive industries
More people should invest in the not-Gundam startup building giant mechas

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>>59064883
>Look up horror stories of marrying autistic/mentally deficient individuals
>stomach
Now that you mention it. An acquaintance had an East Asian girlfriend with some slight mental issues, going in and out of mental care, some years ago. One day he woke up with her on top of him, holding a knife, all covered in blood.
Of course he were scared shitless and thought he'd die, so he threw her off. After getting a look around he discovered that the apartment was splattered in blood. Her blood. Took some convincing the police that he were innocent and in the end he had to leave her to her parents.
TL;DR all sorts of exciting experiences can be had with the more mentally unstable women

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>>59059797
>Ironically most men would be the most happy with an actual truly loving wife and children but chasing the “make huge money” path in life makes this harder.
No men chase money because it's easier and gives you better returns than dating.
Has your bank balance ever decided to just leave because you were boring?
Modern women have no sense of commitment and a huge list of demands, including money. I have a job, and a car but I don't own a house and because rent is expensive I just live with parents and give them money for letting me stay at home.
Women want guys who have their own house, when a womans history of movign home is as follows
>live with parents
>university
>move in with boyfriend
>move in with new boyfriend
>movein with new boyfriend

They never have their own place and I never see men say they won't date a girl who doesn't own a house.
I don't care if society is Scroogeified, money is now better than relationships because you can use it to get what you want, while relationship are now reliant on the whims of an icnreasingly petty, tempramental group of people. Anyone who has lived before social media/tinder knows height wasn't a big deal back then, now guys don't even get a shot if they aren't 6'. Then when all girls ahve their 6' guy you only get a chance if you're 6'4 because women always want above average so they can flex on their friends about how their man is so much better.

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>>59064657
>>59051625
The question is why people would want children at all these days. The traditional family structure is dead, there is no societal/religious/cultural enforcement on the importance of family values, and people are too busy working to have time to deal with relationships, much less kids. Think about it: kids are awful vampires that drain you physically, emotionally, and monetarily for nearly two decades. They are a huge investment with questionable returns from a purely logical perspective, and current culture surrounding instantaneous fulfillment doesn't exactly see a 20 year investment as being viable. I saw plenty of "successful" adults in NYC having kids, and their life is absolutely miserable even if they are making close to a million bucks or more a year. Neverending headaches of being kept up all night by crying/sick babies, struggling to get childcare every morning, needing to INTERVIEW toddlers and deal with waiting lists for daycares that cost tens of thousands every year, and being stuck spending the occasional vacation dealing with peppa pig, baby shark and disneyland instead of enjoying their own millions. Sure, traditional values and long term fulfillment might find it worthwhile in a few decades, but it's a MASSIVE drop in wealth, happiness, and quality of life in the short run, and most people can't afford it anyways. For the wealthy who have the option, many will simply see the trade-off and find it not worthwhile. Maybe I just have Peter Pan syndrome of not growing up and still living in my childhood bedroom while nearing 30, or maybe I'm just jaded enough to see that growing up isn't all it's cracked up to be and NEET life will provide much more short term convenience than "being an adult".

>>59065363
Ahh yes, the insane yandere is certainly the most dangerous thrill ride you can ever experience. They will be hotter than you could ever get otherwise, offer the most exciting days of your life, and inevitably burn everything to the ground. Insane women are truly a way of life that is so romanticized in 2D, and I absolutely adore the yandere/psychopath/evil woman, but even I know when the dangers grow too large in real life. Even something as innocuous as a rumor or false accusation can easily get you in serious trouble from expulsion to getting fired, even without police intervention or physical violence against you. The dark danger of the femme fatale is that she KNOWS all the power she holds over you within this feminist society. Even if you have done nothing or ever interacted with you, she can completely ruin your life consequence free at the tip of a hat, and there's nothing you can do about it. It's one thing to enjoy that power dynamic as your personal kink, it's another to unironically put your life in the hands of a mentally unwell bipolar woman and see what she does with it.

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>>59045230
>save this hag
thats a weird way to write put a bun in her oven but dont fret anon i will oblige

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>>59065523
>thrill ride
Sad thing is he tried to get her admitted for treatment but a minute of clarity where she could say "I feel OK" was enough to let her out

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>>59059853
So, they're becoming closet Filipinos...
God, might as well just let the northern gooks invade you before meeting that fate.

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>>59065486
I don't even think that people are that reliant on a "Scroogeified" society and want to make money...they have no choice. There's an adage about how women don't compete in the race, they wait at the finish line and choose from the winners. If you aren't blessed with incredible genetics, you need to work hard to "earn" your worth as a man, while women largely cruise on inborn beauty and youth for their first 20-30 years. Men start with nothing and work their way up: lifting, social skills, and wealth are all ways to express value that you built up.

In a way, it's depressing to see others start off with everything and slowly decline, while you start with nothing and need to build your way up to reach them. Yet, at the same time, you know that your value is your own, and that drive and ambition is what can be fulfilling. By the time you reach equal value to a woman, she is on a severe declining downtrend and you are rapidly rising as social status, wealth, and power rapidly snowball over time.

The best arrangement is a financial calculation where you might have little value now, but everyone sees the trajectory and overpay today so that they can cruise on the investment returns tomorrow. How often do you see the leading cheerleader date the lanky nerd in high school/college? Under arranged marriage (such as Confucian values across CN/KR/JP), that would unironically be a thing since everyone knows that nerd will likely pass some imperial exams and be a powerful executive later. However, the issue is that women squander their inital inheritance (just like winning a lottery), and then end up with nothing. If men had self respect, they would reject women who treated them like garbage when power dynamics were reversed. However, most will end up simping and be a saviorfag and bail out that single mom who used to be the town bicycle. This is why hags deserve their fate, and every hag who gets saved is another failure where men offer undeserved charity and propagate the existing system.

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>>59065924
in other words. it's time to bring back the age gap from 4 decades ago

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>>59065523
>Think about it: kids are awful vampires that drain you physically, emotionally, and monetarily for nearly two decades.
lmao no
This is a cope for people who either don't know how to parent, or don't know how to be sanguine in general.

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>>59065681
>>59065789
DO NOT SAVE HAGS. DO NOT SAVE YANDERES.
It's akin to "do not feed the animals". They will become reliant on charity and not change or improve. It is always a nice thing to take in a stray cat and it turns into a great story where it loves and cares for you, but such heartwarming stories are mostly myth and rarely play out so well in reality. I know of cases where it's possible, but do you go out and take in every stray animal you see? Sounds like a great way to get rabies or otherwise ruin your life trying to save those that cannot be saved. Even then, at the end of the day, the reality remains where your one good act of charity does nothing to solve the larger underlying problem.

Sometimes examples need to be made of bitter hags who end up unhappy, those who can admit to their mistakes and warn the following generation to not follow in their footsteps. Such cases exist, but its overwhelmingly drowned out by bitter cat ladies who will still proclaim they are happy and independent while in serious denial. Invest in boxed wine and cat food!

On the other hand, unless your oshi is a struggling 2view, she does NOT need to be saved. Any holo girl is easily set for life and can join our early retired NEET club once they are done milking their gachis. She is no different than a retired pornstar who now wants to settle down despite being (in)famous and a millionaire. If even Riley Reid and Mia Khalifa were able to get married (and divorced shortly after), so will your oshi once she is fully retired from the industry and bored enough to get a boytoy of her own. All your simpbucks won't change a thing, and she is perfectly happy without you. They need to reach elder lich tier hag in her 40s-50s before she is truly alone and regrets her decisions. 30 is still far too generous with Western standards and captain save-a-hoe mentality, where she can still easily rope in a simp into her 35s and 40s.

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This is now /pseud/ I crown myself high professor while I have never actually talked to a woman I have studied them for hours in the grand libraries of the internet.

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>>59061597
>Choco
Christmas Cake, not a 30 something hag. You should worry more about her friend Mel.

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>>59066171
This is probably why I find JP women so attractive. In my experience their children are always well-behaved and cutely curious about their environment without being noisy or messy

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>all this shit in this thread has already been discussed and proven by a lil nigga 100 years ago

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>>59065924
The best system is when a guy is looking to build himself up and the world is uncertain, he has a partner there to motivate him to keep going.
But women would rather fuck around and then hope a guy settles. Women weren't mad about older guys dating younger women when they were youn dating guys who had cars over their own classmates who legally couldn't learn to drive. Women weren't mad about men dating SEA women becuase of muh sexploitation, as htey say sex work is empowering.
Women were mad because they saw the orbiters, the safety nets, all walking away.

Marriage is a joke because it's a team effort and women only want it when you've already done the hard work. If you aren't there for the hard bits it's not a very good team.

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>>59066496
That's just culture. In the west the louder and more obnoxious you are, the better. In Japan is completely backwards. We praise annoying and retarded behavior so our kids learn to be like that. It's acceptable.
In Japan is the complete opposite, the more you control your emotions, the less annoying you are, the better.
Both have their problems of course.

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>>59066686
>men complain they can't have a wife and kids
>Communsits try to shill their shitty ideology that literally calls for the abolition of the family
Yeah great ideology there comrade. Can't wait to see how thigns go for China when millions of young men realize the glorious CCP is why their entire life was a sausage fest giving women insane power over men. The only thing more miserable than western dating is the Chinese male experience.

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>>59067389
>Both have their problems of course
Yeah, you end up with literal NPC that can't even hug people like Lui and won't speak up about their problems until it get so messy that they either snap and kill somebody or themselves and yore left there wondering what pushed them to do it after the fact

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>>59067434
Yeah Deng fucked up on that one.
He didn't realize that culturally the Chinese people were still backwards and did not view women as equals like the party did. So people just dumped the girls.

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>>59067138
There is no team in modern society. Maybe way back when in a simpler rural time both parties worked together as a team, but that was solely due to necessity rather than what people wanted to do.
There was an old copypasta about the idealized fantasy woman within Eastern vs Western media. In the Hollywood tradition (pre-strong independent women movement), the women are trophy wives that the hero earns through his effort (think James Bond etc). In contrast, the anime tradition has women closer to pets: all MC needs to do is be nice and they will unconditionally love him for no good reason at all.
Regardless of which context you rely upon, there is no motivation for women to work as part of a team when they don't have to anymore. It's much easier to be a trophy/pet and rely on others to compete for them, compared to earning your own way. There have always been those women who want to actually be independent and make their own success like a man, and respect to them and their choice. However, on a macro scale, very few people genuinely want to have to build themselves out of nothing and work their lives to carve out a living. You see plenty of gen Z regret about the existential angst of having to work for the next 30-40 years instead of being a NEET or relying on others. If guys could simply leech off women or make millions on onlyfans, they most certainly would take that opportunity too.

>>59067434
>>59067635
The irony is that China is supposedly one of the last bastion of anti-SJW politics remaining, and even they are a complete disaster. I suppose they are starting to join the Italians in promoting more traditional family structure/literally forcing people to get married and have kids, but the country has already entered terminal Western decline in terms of birth and marriage rates. Considering massive youth unemployment and a broken society dependent on extreme academic exams (which is shared across KR and JP), the youth is completely screwed over even when they reach extreme levels of academic success, thus reinforcing why parents don't have kids and why the new 20-30yos also don't want to and can't afford to continue the cycle.

China is probably the only major non-Shariah country that hasn't gone full feminist (compared to how bad things are in KR), and even then the family structure is completely destroyed and people have no hope. The only thing more ironic is that China has simultaneously a surplus and shortage of women: there's objectively less women than men by a significant margin, yet there are plenty of "leftover" hags that no one wants, thus furthering the gap. I suppose that's just how China is...every summer they get both floods AND droughts simultaneously, just in different places in the north vs south. It would almost be poetic if it wasn't so grim.

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>>59067434
>For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

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>>59067542
Pretty much. I hang out with nips and it's annoying how they won't say what they feel sometimes even when there's nothing wrong with it. But at the same time I really admire how they keep shit to themselves and evade conflict.
To give you an example: Twitter. I hated twitter back when I used it years ago and even today it's the same shit filled with retards. But after just following nips it's amazing how calm and nice the experience became. It's heaven hell levels of different.
The streaming experience is also way better: nip streamers generally respect the viewers (you can actually feel they are grateful to have you there unlike western ones who to some degree feel they are too good for you to be there), they don't insult them, won't try to "own" them, they don't humiliate people for asking stuff and also the fans aren't a bunch of circle jerking faggots who insult whoever the streamer felt like insulting. They also tend to evade drama and talking about 3rd parties.
It's a lot more tranquil.

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>>59067776
Have you ever touched a boob?
No judging.
I just think people doling out wisdom here should have touched a boob.

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>>59059256
Take up meditation and seek mystical enlightenment. It's the only thing you've got left to do.

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>>59067542
America has more suicide than Japan, by percentage

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>>59065486

Tinder and similar apps are trash for finding quality women desu senpai, those apps are more or less golddigger get RTA

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>>59067992
>they don't insult them
Ui...

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>>59068134
Anon I don't use tinder, I just happen to be in earshot of girls openly talking with one another about using tinder. You may not use it, most girls in your generation will. It's pretty dire to think about the dating pool.

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>>59068056
I'm not that anon but you don't need to be a pussy eater to see that the rates of marriage and sex dramatically fell this century

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>>59068134
How the hell do people meet these days?
They can't expect me to approach someone in person. Even all the liquor in the world couldn't solve that.

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>>59068267
School, work, bars and tinder
If you work from home and don't drink I don't know, maybe in the church?

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>>59068056
Enlightenment is a fascinating concept where the only way to attain it is to not desire enlightenment (or anything else by that metric). I wonder whether there is a connection between boredom and enlightenment: if I do not desire to obtain anything or do anything, am I getting closer or further away? Does boredom imply I desire to want to do something/anything, yet I end up doing nothing and not desiring anything. No interest or passion or motivation, yet also being able to appreciate the minor things such as the wonders of getting canned food delivered or the nice fall breeze and sunlight through the window while not needing to suffer from work. Perhaps I just need to cut off the internet and go full hermit NEET: considering I already have no social contact, live a barebones existence without leaving my room, and only have one flavorless but nutritious meal a day, maybe I'm closer to living the true hermit monk life than expected.

>>59068267
The realistic option is to get a hobby and meet people there. Most people literally don't have any hobbies besides video games/anime/Netflix, and thus find it impossible to meet people. Heck, even loners could probably get a e-gf on Discord if you delve deep enough down that rabbit hole. Practical options involve starting a sport/instrument groups, going to some kind of fitness/cooking/arts class depending on your interest, or learning some kind of skill/certification that involves a bootcamp style recurrence of some kind. There was a study into how people meet and make friends, and generally it's regular proximity (such as daily/weekly recurring lessons), overcoming a challenge together (learning a skill) and the associated bonding that comes through those shared experiences. This doesn't just apply to relationships but friendships in general. Basically you need to DO something/learn something/express interest in something besides passive entertainment, and if you reach out, you can find like minded individuals who share that hobby/interest. Over time, that social network will grow and possibly open doors to a relationship with the friend of a friend etc.

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>>59068160
To be fair Ui insults retards that bring retarded shit in chat

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>>59068267

Work, school, hobbies, out and about, same as before desu senpai. Of course there's dating apps but if said apps make getting into a relationship easy then you gotta think what that speaks of the people still grinding away using those. Women fishing for free meals aside.
Anecdotally of course nowadays I'm almost always accurate which couples I talk to got together naturally and which used dating apps, the difference in quality is just out there.

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>>59067998
>here

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>>59064883
Thread's about to autosage so I might as well say everything. I love how she's so incapable and lost without me, I love how utterly dependent she is on me, I love how needy and subservient she is, the power dynamic gets me off beyond what any cooming could ever do, her looking to me for every little thing and every little choice gets my blood pumping. She does what I want her to do and she does what I want her to do, and for now that's a qt weeb housewife who stays in shape and blows me when I get home from work and jerks me off with her feet when I'm playing videogames. I wouldn't trade it for the world.

>>59065363
You know, I've never seen the appeal of the crazy/bad girl. I just don't think it's a fetish you could translate properly into the real world. Juri Han and the demon queen and the like are obviously hot, but irl they'd just be uppity cunts with a chip on their shoulders.

>>59068267
I met mine randomly one night at a bar. She was there against her will but still.

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>>59068605
I mean the only difference between a hikkineet and a hermit monk is the magic powers and kung fu vs technology and internet. is there REALLY a difference between watching youtube videos and admiring a mountain vista?
The mountain sage probably has better air, water, and food, but you can just buy a filter and start dieting.
Just realize that this is it, right now IS your life and it will never be different, so learnt o enjoy it as it is.

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>>59069275
You are truly living the life, and I sincerely hope it lasts. I'm sure there are plenty who would kill to have what you have now, but the ultimate existential dread always lingers of "for how long". It's always an uncomfortable reality to think about our own impending deaths, and in a similar manner your waifu going yandere, becoming a feminist, or leaving you presents a similar sense of inevitability. Things are still happy today, but will they still be tomorrow? Is there anything I can do to preserve this moment of bliss? Or am I just enjoying the brief highs before everything crumbles and falls off a cliff.

I remember a friend once told a story about the one lesson his dad imparted upon him: when your perfect GF breaks up with you, don't kill yourself. Quite a grim tale and very telling that was the one thing his dad ever said about his GF. Everything was happy, everything was perfect, but ultimately things ended, and after much struggle, life goes on. He's married now, to someone far less attractive but perhaps more down-to-earth and stable, and perhaps he can be happy. At the end of the day, life goes on, and it's nice to have every day contain some blissful happiness that you can appreciate in the moment. Perhaps it's that ephemereal understanding that beauty never lasts forever that gives it that much more meaning and purpose for you to enjoy while it lasts. I hope that you and your waifu stay together and happy for as long as you can, and even if/when things fall apart, you will have been better for having loved and lost than never to have loved at all.

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>>59069275
The appeal of the bad girl is, imo, domination loss. Imagine taking Juri and making her submit to you. You get the same experience as a normal submissive girl, but also the ego boost of her being too much to handle for the common man.
There's also the lingering danger/excitement of having to constantly stay on your toes and not slack off and lose control. Sort of a more antagonistic version of the team effort/support.

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>>59069537
Anon I don't think monks are allowed to admire mountain vistas. Only enlightenment neets are getting is post nut clarity

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>>59069723
>Only enlightenment neets are getting is post nut clarity
What do you think the sages were spending their time doing? I guarantee you they were all just jacking off all the time and their "enlightened wisdom" was ironically enough LITERALLY Kenja time.

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>>59069688
I think you have it half-right, as conquering a villainess/evil psycho is only part of the fetish, and is actually despised by a significant portion of that fanbase. While your understanding is more primal and a surface interpretetion of how man conquers woman and enforces subservience, there is also the other side of the coin. There is a certain exhaustion that comes from having to constantly be on your toes and needing to enforce your will upon others all the time. Instead, there can be a comfort in letting others take the lead, to simply go along with the whims of your evil queen or devil goddess.

While some may prefer the more gentle and motherly/onee-san personality that pampers and coddles, this more extreme interpretation allows rampant insanity to be free, and you are dragged along for the ride. The best expression of this idea is shown through Bishoujo Mangekyou -Norowareshi Densetsu no Shoujo-, where the schoolteacher MC falls for his vampire student and subject to her whims. While the ending falls a bit flat, the gradual decline of the MC into losing his job, getting bled dry (literally), and slowly losing himself to madness with only obsession for his queen that no longer cares for him certainly evokes a certain unconditional obsession and devotion as a male yandere seeking out the target of his affection. Certainly not a dynamic to be desired IRL, but it's also not uncommon given the number of beta guys who are completely whipped and controlled by their domineering wives.

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>>59069275
at a bar?
just like that?
there's gotta be more to it

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Both women and men are delusional about their "dream partner", the difference is that women can afford to do that while for men is pretty hard. A rich, charismatic and fit guy probably has around the same "power" of an average girl
Just look at those videos of guys faking being a woman on facebook and tinder or some shit, you get dozens of messages without doing nothing and if you send one it's almost a guarantee that the guy would respond back as fast as possible

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>>59067542
The most suicides happening in Japan are lonely old men in the countryside and young boys who are NEETs. It also becomes more frequent the further north you go
The reason work-related suicides are so prominent in Japan is also because there aren't as many non-Japanese in the work force. In every country the non-native population are of lesser value. So it's simply that when the shitty work goes to foreigners then people really don't care to talk about working conditions or suicides

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>>59070082
Yeah there's also forced domination-loss, where ironically you're dominated by a crazy girl into domming her OR ELSE. You're FORCED to force her to obey you, like living with a wild animal that will eat you if you display weakness. So ironically you can rest easy and relax because you have no choice in the matter whether you're in charge.

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>>59070112
It's cuz it's a different game. With those dating apps you cast a wide net.

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Interesting thread.

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>>59062283
Boomers. The answer is always boomers. They are unironicaly to blame for everything. Everything that wrong with our society can always be traced back to them.

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>>59069275
You cold approached your waifu? See even I'm too autistic for that.

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>>59070112
Sure, everyone is delusional about wanting a 10/10 idealized partner rather than a realistic looks match. As you said, the difference is that a 6/10 woman can still get a tinder match or flown out by a 10/10 for a weekend before getting dropped and ghosted. Once they are "widowed" by the 10/10, they can never go back to a regular guy and keep on chasing the dragon, even though its long since over. Closest approximation would be sexpats going over to SEA and suddenly seeing dozens of girls half their age chasing after them for the hopes of a better life. In such cases, they know they are the prize to be chased after, and they get to choose the winners: in finance, it's akin to moving from the sell-side (where you beg people to buy your product), to the buy-side (where salespeople beg you to choose them). That shift in power dynamic is huge, and can be incredibly addicting: imagine how much of an asshole any guy would be if they spent their entire life getting dozens/hundreds of girls chasing after them and looking for a hookup tonight. Yes, I know there are guys who have managed to pull it off, but it's exhausting compared to girls who are literal 3s or 4s that still have a "rotation" of dozens of guys on call at any time.

>>59070255
Another great classic to look into is Shoujo -M- which covers the bad end of marriage to the yandere in a fascinating way. Everyone else sees MC married to a beautiful young wife, only he knows that she ruined his life in revenge and crushed him down to the point where he has no one to turn to except her. The truly poetic nature is realizing that the yandere's mother did the exact same thing to her dad, and now MC is stuck in that family with no escape as the next victim. It's very much a preying mantis relationship where you know she will ruin your life, yet the beauty and crazy sex makes it impossible to run away from what feels like utter perfection in the moment. I fear that this might be the end this anon is heading to....>>59069275

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>>59069092
Yeah but in work, school, hobbies you don't know that the women there want to meet men. Some could be married, some could not be interested in dating then if you ask them out it makes everything awkward. You would have to quit your job, school, club.

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>>59069635
There are several caveats to it tho, this kind of relationships doesn't just happen spontaneously and organically. I'm 15 years older than her and she grew up without a father so in her mind I'm something of a "daddy that fucks me". Her mom more of less disowned her when she dropped out of college. I'm still in touch with an ex that's married now and she knows nothing about it.
I frequently and subtly remind her I'm all she has and she better appreciate it or I'll ship her back to her mother.

>>59069688
>>59070082
>>59070255
It still feels too contrived. I'm biased obviously but I prefer the sweet ones, the Watame types. Those are more realistic, "beautiful muffin too precious for this sinful world" or however the meme goes.

>>59070088
>>59070667
Yeah, she was there having a miserable time and I just walked up to hit on her because I thought she was drunk or high and would be an easy lay. Little did I know she was just a very autistic very uncomfortable girl drinking sprite. I asked about her Demon Slayer top and she talked my ear off about it for a good two hours after I got her out of there.

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>>59070255
I would say a lot more of the emphasis is on the genre centering around femdom, rather than needing to always be dominant as a guy. It's closer to the manic pixie dream girl path where she is the main character and dragging you along for the ride. You are not in charge, you have no agency in the matter, she WILL change your life and you will enjoy the ride for as long as it lasts. That abandonment of responsibility is it's own appeal, and hence why a femme fatale or yandere girl is so interesting to break up the mundanity of everyday life. Change is terrifying, especially when its not necessarily done for the better, as you might get dragged into endless drama that destroys your other relationships, career, and place within society. At the end of the day, you are left with nothing, except maybe her, or maybe even she abandons you at rock bottom, yet you know it was the most thrilling ride of your life that you can spend the rest of your existence regretting. That kind of vibe is what truly makes works like >>59070695 special, since it conveys both the danger and appeal of the modern feminist world. I've known guys who were kicked out of university and fired due to false (or at least questionable) accusations, and that shows you how fragile your everyday existence is, especially when it comes to a crazy girl who lies and naturally as she breathes. Add in plenty of trauma and emotional damage, and you have an unhinged wild animal who you can never hope to understand, and she has full control over your life.

>>59070889
In a sense, you are stuck in a world of forced domination, where you need to hold on to the reins of your waifu for dear life. If she ever wakes up to the reality she holds in this feminist world, you can be taken for everything you have, arrested, or worse for abusing and confining her. In that sense, she holds all the cards, and you live in fear for the day she awakens to her actual powers and realizes that she does not serve you, and that you serve her instead. This is the cruel reality we live in, and why I can never possibly enjoy the blissful existence you live in. I know the reality is fake, just a phantasmal space where dreams are manifested, yet it could crumble at any time as you are plunged back down to reality. Of course there is always an appeal to such danger, but are you truly willing to risk everything and let the idyllic life you lead suddenly be shattered in the event that anything goes wrong? Such paranoia is perhaps excessive, but it is also a daily reminder of the dangers we live with and choose to ignore at our own peril.

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>>59070772

Yeah obv the more stuck you are in a place the harder it is to work up the courage. But take it from someone who took his shots sometimes and burned hard sometimes, it does get awkward but you grow thicker skin out of it senpai. After a while you realize you're the one making things awkward and if you act like nothing happened it'll be fine. Anyway if shit gets really bad? Just leave bro, not like you should be stuck in the same job for years anyw

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>>59070889
>I thought she was drunk or high and would be an easy lay
How come it's ALWAYS the normie asshole dudebros who get the autismo qts? It's not fair

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>>59071842
It's simple....only the "normie asshole dudebros" actually go outside and try to score at all. It just turns out they aren't chad tier normie enough, so they settle with the low hanging fruit, which are the autismos. There's definitely a correlation with enjoying broken/damaged/yandere girls in terms of aiming for easier targets (i.e. getting a discount on a 10/10 you could never normally get, since she's damaged and has the self esteem of a 5 instead).

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>>59071549
I'm vested with a pension so yeah I'm stuck.
But.ill keep that in mind with other things. Maybe I'll look into some sorta club. I wish I did that shit in school. Now I'm just an awkward adult. Atleast I can drink.

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>>59070889
Did you bang her that night?
Only successful relationships I ever scraped together were from one night stands that the girls regretted.

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>>59071984
Respect the golden rule....don't shit where you eat. NEVER do anything that could ostensibly be seen as "making a move" at your work or anywhere near it. With the #metoo era in full swing, you're just one bad move away from getting yourself a referral to HR and updating your LinkedIn profile. Considering you're a guy on /here/ who's having trouble with dating rather than a suave natural chad, this goes double for such a move very likely ruining your life. Anyone who just says "go for it" and "just BEE yourself" clearly is not to be trusted with advice on relationship matters, especially when they have a vastly different perspective and life experience than an unattractive autist who's struggling.
In general, you won't find what you are looking for in clubs/bars, and you'll most likely just be miserable and milked for all you're worth, with a similar situation going for dating apps. Unless you are ALREADY successful, you will not succeed or improve in such environments where the only players are existing pros. Realistically, the best option is to pick up a sport/art/dance hobby and go to social events around that hobby. Meeting people is mostly about developing a network of mutual acquaintences and friends of friends until you find someone that clicks.
Honestly, I've long since given up pretending to be fake and acting like I enjoy social situations and prefer the solitude of NEETdom, but having spent years smoozing and pretending to be a socially functioning normie, you can learn to put on the act and get marginal success (but at what cost).

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>>59071984

Try language courses, you're forced to talk to people in the class as practice. Met some cool friends (both genders) that way. And avoid the women clubs like yoga, everyone knows by now that any single guy showing up is either gay or a horndog
if you're going for nip classes the intermediate and up classes usually filter out the rabid fujos

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>>59071473
I think you're afraid of commitment and intimacy. You're obviously a smart guy so you arm yourself with knowledge to keep women away. You're also weirdly drawn towards femdom.
It's no skin off my back but I hope you get better one day. But you're talking to the piece of shit who has been grooming and gaslighting an autistic girl for a couple of years so take what I say with a grain of salt.

>>59071842
I've asked her before and she claims she never wanted to date a fellow autistic or a guy from one of her therapy groups because it would constantly remind her of her handicap. She prefers being with someone normal so she can pretend to be normal, even if deep down she knows she's a charity case.

>>59071940
Funnily enough that ex I mentioned is as close to a 10/10 perfect blonde as you can get and she frequently calls me to reminisce about the good old days and complain about her husband and tell me she'd leave him in a heartbeat if I wanted her.
Women are just crazy.

>>59072067
That very night? No, we(mostly her) just talked a lot. It took six months of dates and constant texting(so much fucking texting, even these days). But she was blowing me and getting fingerbanged after a few weeks. She claims she was a virgin before me but I just don't believe her.

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>>59072645
>if you're going for nip classes the intermediate and up classes usually filter out the rabid fujos
but in my experience you're still stuck with the dudes with hardcore yellow fever so finding regular friends is not recommended

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>>59072818
I'm gonna try the few dates thing. There was this one girl I went on a few dates with but didn't know when to make the moves so called it off. So like finger banging in a week? How long until making our?

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>>59072370
Good call.
My dad got fired for sexual harassment for having an affair with his coworker, she kept her job, so the work thing frightened me anyway.

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>>59072370

Yes I forgot, if your idea of making a move on a woman is to proposition sex or babble incoherently then please do NOT shit where you eat. But frankly given the level of discussion here I think most anons here are above that

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>>59072818
In any case, I just hope to offer some perspectives into how broken society is at large and whether there's any hope in actually maintaining a positive relationship in this environment. I definitely find fascination in both the dominant and submissive roles within relationships, either in terms of keeping a pet autistic NEET waifu or finding romanticism in a manic pixie dream girl that can shake up my boring dreary life and possibly ruins it in the process. As the former seems to largely be inaccessible these days without significant legal risk (at least you seem to be managing as a potential exception), generally the latter fantasy almost seems more attainable in contrast. Overall I find it fascinating to talk to someone who actually has managed to succeed in achieving (?) the autistic waifu fantasy and seems to be chugging along just fine despite all the countless ways it could go wrong. At the end of the day, I'm just a coward who is too scared to take that next move and potentially ruin a safe and comfy retirement, while at the same time slowly fading out of existence due to sheer boredom and emptiness. In contrast, you face your fears head on and are living out your dreams, no matter how dangerous it may be. Whether you turn into a source of inspiration or a cautionary tale is yet to be seen, but at least you can say that you have truly lived rather than simply existed while hiding in the safety of the NEET cave.

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Not my oshi so not my place to say, but I really hope she has someone. She deserves to be happy and I bet she'd be a great mother

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>>59073089
Exactly one month before the first kiss and from then on it was off to the races on everything short of putting it in, she herself is also very horny and very sexual.
Exactly six months before we went all the way, she framed it around around our half anniversary, made a whole thing out of it.
She's very peculiar about numbers.

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>>59073363
Yeah man this thread has been pretty crazy. Makes me wanna get laid now.

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>>59073236
Quite frankly...I wouldn't trust anyone I see /here/ to try and respectfully hit on a woman in public, much less work. If you haven't developed exceptional social skills and had significant experience by college, I don't think the high-risk of approaching any women at work is worth it, especially in an age of #metoo witchhunts. Even if things go well in the short run, you are just one argument/breakup away from ruining your career (and in that guy's case, pension). It's utterly stupid to even suggest that is a viable risk worth taking, but some people are inherent thrill seekers that are happy to ruin their lives for the smallest thing. Am I far too risk averse to function in society? Maybe so, but I would still think it's safer to start taking heroin compared to having a socially awkward recluse from /here/ start hitting on coworkers in a work setting. Start with safe social spaces like some kind of class (music, dance, language, sport, etc) or outside social event meeting strangers, not work colleagues.

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>>59073488
Ya know I'm thinking more and more I'm not autistic I'm just terrible with women absolutely terrible. Thanks anon. I'll keep this shit in mind.

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>>59073541
I don't even know if it's worth it for me. I'm just curious if having someone like that is as good as it seems or if it's overrated. Not to mention my taste is a bit weird.

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>>59073599
I do want to do heroin anon. And I would more readily do that than hit on a coworker.

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>>59073728
Yeah true.
Ive been so sick off the dating apps I get matches but they're the same girls and seem boring and not that attractive.

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>>59073599

True. I still think that if you're getting out of the job soon (which that guy wasn't), then take the shot anyway. But that's just me. Everything else you said is solid advice.

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>>59073832
>>59073728
Have you ever considered sex tourism? Unironically consider taking a trip to Pattaya, Macau, or Bali and see if it changes your mind. You'll quickly realize how much more cost efficient it is compared to trying to spend money on dating apps/dates etc. Regular dating generally either does or doesn't work for certain people, and while you can try to self improve and find a way to make it work, often times it's just easier to find an alternative solution. I just went with the easy/cowardly way out with a combination of GFE and escorts, but I don't have the patience, commitment, or trust capacity to deal with a real relationship. While I wouldn't argue this is necessarily the correct choice for most, it can save a LOT of pain and suffering for those who regularly struggle and fail at being a normie with a healthy social relationship.

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>>59074166
I don't know if I have the money for that.
And I don't know I feel about the thing. You do you just not sure about it.

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>>59073363
Look I lost my virginity when I was twelve, I'm 37 now. I've been in plenty of relationships and pseudo-relatonships with different types of women. Younger, older, virgins, MILFs, poorfags, richfags, white, latina, asian, arab, curry, career oriented, home oriented, sane, nutjob, everything. Just go for it, give it a shot, even if it's just so you can say
>holy fucking shit, that was awful, I'm gonna stick to my lane
Just do it.

>>59073621
It does affect women and men differently and there are grades of severity to it, watch The Babadook to get an example of how bad it can get.

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>>59074166
In my case, what I'm curious about is honestly the relationship portion and not the sex portion. Not that I wouldn't want both, but something like that wouldn't be enough to sate my curiosity. Nothing against people that do that stuff though. But I'm also an odd case and I'm no longer willing to force myself to be normal for that.

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>>59050496
If he does, he won't marry you

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>>59074285
If money is an issue where you can't afford a few grand for a trip, you most likely can't afford dating apps in the West either. It sure isn't for everyone, but if all your relationship options are garbage, maybe it's time to travel and see other places for new options. When you're broke, wasting what little you have on cheap dates and social clubs trying to hit on women probably isn't the best choice. Easier said than done, but the "Scroogian" economy the earlier anon mentioned has it's truth: unless you have exceptional charm, you need cash to get dates. Focus on chasing cash instead of women, and women will come to you (for better or worse). Sadly the inverse cannot be said to be true. If you consider the total cost of monthly dating apps, the opportunity cost associated with the time spent trying to get a single match after 99 rejections, and the time/money spent going on failed dates that go nowhere, maybe a trip out to SEA or Mexico isn't so expensive after all.

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>>59074324
Live life to the fullest my friend.

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>>59074670
As a SEAnig I can say that the local women lust for white man cock is still very much alive... Just don't expect a relationship out of such groups unless you're a filthy rich expat.

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>>59050496
You never would have given men like anon the time of day anyway. The reason you dont have a husband and kids isnt because you chose not to date the skinny nerd kid, its because the time you had the star football player between your legs you failed to wrap him up.

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>>59052356
Japan is not much better in that regard
feminism is destroying women's drives to find the average takeshi attractive

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>>59074465
For the relationship portion, just stick to GFE as the "close enough" approximation (as long as you don't start simping and akasupaing), and you can pay extra for the IRL counterpart. I think my ultimate view on modern realistic relationships (i.e. not the romantic idealized version) is that its akin to hiring a therapy puppy/kitten for a while. It's fun, enjoyable, and cute, and you spend some meaningful time as part of the experience. The trade off is that you don't want to deal with all the hassle of feeding/caring for/dealing with that said puppy/kitten for most of your regular days, such as dealing with it being sick, waking you up in the middle of the night, etc. Ultimately we want the benefit without incurring the daily effort cost associated, so we pay cash to only get the good parts without the bad ones.

In a similar manner, it's far cheaper to just hire a maid to cook and clean for me, rather than put the effort into getting a gf/wife to do those tasks (who would require both monetary and emotional effort in equal measure of what you contribute vs what she does). In that sense, I can be a hermit deadbeat and not have to put in any effort into a one-sided relationship so long as cash is considered the great equalizer. Effectively, there is a clear trade off: is it easier for me to wash the dishes/mow the lawn/cook dinner, or work for a bit and use my income to pay for someone else to do that? At a certain level of income, I could trade off maybe 1 day of work a year to pay someone to do all my chores for a year, compared to doing all those myself. If you are able to use cold logic on relationships, the effective calculation is the same: it's easier to buy GFE than actually do nice things to earn it. And that's why parasocialism (where you do nothing and your e-gf pampers you with love, affirmation, and ASMR) is the idealized false relationship for the lazy whale.

>>59075006
It's always pay2play, not just for the white skin and passport. As long as she sees you as a wallet, you just need to guard your cash carefully and pay only for her efforts. Never expect a relationship, but it is very cheap and efficient to hire a local maid, chef, and escorts on as little as $50k annually. Money might not buy happiness, but it can buy convenience and services I suppose. If relationships are dead everywhere, at least we can try to save up and get good usage out of every efficient dollar (rather than just throwing it at an oshi that doesn't know you exist).

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>>59066686
nah go read hayek instead

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>>59076686