>Axed after just two events >Everyone involved backpedalled What's even the point of this?

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Anonymous Fri Sep 22 11:42:30 2023 No.59037693 [Reply] [Original]

>Axed after just two events
>Everyone involved backpedalled
What's even the point of this?

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 11:46:30 2023 No.59037836

The point was to establish a framework in which gaming brands can approach cover and get their product featured. By picking specific holos and homos, they could get a desirable demographic mix which, in theory, would reach the audience the brand wants to target. It's not such a difficult concept to understand, really.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 11:48:27 2023 No.59037904 >>59037693 >axed Source?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 11:48:52 2023 No.59037914 the point is to shill the stars. it's not that complicated.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 11:49:36 2023 No.59037938 >>59037836 The part that’s difficult to understand is including homos, all that did was add controversy to the event and probably scare companies away from working with cover again

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 11:50:11 2023 No.59037965 fpbp

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 11:51:05 2023 No.59038002 >>59037904 None, cause there's literally nothing new coming out from it. Safe to say it's OmegaAlpha-ing

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 11:54:37 2023 No.59038170

>>59037938
Yes, that's something I didn't understand either. If I had to guess, it's probably a marketing guy of the brand asking for a mix of male and female talents because it's a safe choice in the markets they are familiar with. They likely didn't do enough research on the marketing vehicle to understand that homos would cause the existing audience to be less receptive.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:03:32 2023 No.59038518 >>59037938 What controversy lol

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:05:12 2023 No.59038607 >>59037836 >picking specific holos Are you telling me that picking two hags who barely ever played fps to play in a sponsorship for an esport was a good idea?

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:10:59 2023 No.59038867

>>59037836
>It's not such a difficult concept to understand, really.
No, it's a very difficult concept to understand. The Hololive audience doesn't want intergender bullshit and there's absolutely no demand for Hololive, Homostars, or Cover to get involved with e-sports. HLZNTL was an idea that had no market and made no sense. I can only hope that whoever thought of it was shot in the face and fed to pigs for their failure.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:12:04 2023 No.59038902 >>59037693 some new person got hired and needed to do something to back up their fluffed CV and high salary. it was an obvious attempt to copy VSPO and work on the male/female thing. stop hiring people who don't understand the business cover.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:12:58 2023 No.59038938

>>59037693
The whole aim intended for this project was just plain retarded.

Why go for shooters instead of something less violent and more approachable to a general audience (Party games, rythm games, RPGs, sport/racing games, etc.)? Why does it have to specially have to involve teamwork? Why not allow them to go solo? They should've at least considered the Game shop Meruyama or the Olympic eSports approach before dumping money on deliberate Holo vs Holo shenanigans.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:13:11 2023 No.59038953 >>59037836 >>59038607 They didn't "picked" anybody they ask around and took girls that said yes. We know they asked Aqua but she said no. The final roster was probably leftover girls that weren't too affraid of the unicorn backlash

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:14:31 2023 No.59039013 >>59038953 >The final roster was probably leftover girls that weren't too affraid of the unicorn backlash More like management used some trickery on them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:14:55 2023 No.59039037 >>59038002 The last horizontal event was barely 3 weeks ago. You really are retarded if you think it's dead just because there wasn't a new event in less of a month

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:15:51 2023 No.59039062 >>59039013 There was no trickery, IRyS said she asked a bunch of questions and she accepted the terms

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:17:29 2023 No.59039139

>>59037693
Was this shit responsible for the lukewarm response to regloss? Can't help thinking the nip backlash led to a lot of suspicion towards the new girls that may have been unfounded. If so this dumb project succeeded in nothing but alienating fans and hobbling the new gen out of the gate.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:18:32 2023 No.59039195 >>59039013 That is a sponsorship by Blizzard. It's probably a lot of money just for them playing a shitty game for one hour and a half. You don't need tricked to take a deal like that

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:19:13 2023 No.59039230 >>59039139 That's exactly what happened, it did a lot of damage to Cover's image, hopefully whoever was responsible got blacklisted

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:19:32 2023 No.59039243 >>59039037 >massive backlash against it from all sides >unicorns and homobeggars standing in solidarity to shit on HLZNTL >Cover hasn't said a single word about it since the Overwatch 2 event It's dead

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:20:54 2023 No.59039299

>>59038953
Matsuri is the most used up in the whole company and she wasn't there, and she's easily better than Chloe, Irys and Lui
Roboco too
Aki too
Choco too
Ayame too
Laplus too
For all those to reject they fucked it up pretty hard and if they were all occupied it was the management fault too for not planning it beforehand

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:22:19 2023 No.59039358

>>59037693
Botan would never backpedal but Nene plead on her memberpost that they don't even chat with males and how she would if she could provide discord logs. It's simple not good for their income at least at short sight. Lui was a bit more open if i remember correct to new stuff but also said there were no male interactions.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:23:41 2023 No.59039414 it isnt axed, they're giving regloss time to establish themselves before forcing them into this

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:24:10 2023 No.59039430 >>59039243 I think horizontal was a bad format. And I couldn't care less about it being dead. But now I hope it's still a thing because I will make a thread just to grudgepost (you) for being so braindead

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:25:03 2023 No.59039466 >>59039243 you're a fucking retard

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:26:05 2023 No.59039506 >>59039414 I could see Cover doing that but it would be even dumber since most of Regloss aren't even gamers

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:28:04 2023 No.59039598 >>59039414 >before forcing them into this Not a single of them is a gamer besides the gyaru who I'm surprised is a fucking RPG fanatic weirdly enough that also wouldn't help them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:28:40 2023 No.59039616 >>59039037 Not even a single new Tweet during the same time period? It's almost like they're trying to make everyone forget about it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:29:39 2023 No.59039657 >>59039466 >you're a fucking retard No argument detected. I accepted your surrender.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:30:13 2023 No.59039685 >>59039506 >>59039598 You think they care? They put freaking Sakamata Chloe in the last Overwatch HLZNTL

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:31:32 2023 No.59039762 >>59039598 Irys is a retarded who can't tell right from left in a fps yet she was in this, I don't doubt anything from the retards that work in the management

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:33:02 2023 No.59039851 >>59039762 >>59039685 That was just them scrambling to grab whoever the fuck said yes though. Why would they make a new gen of some people who don't even play games to be a FPS pro gaming group?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:38:23 2023 No.59040113 It's another silly attempt to try and make the faggot branch relevant, that's all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:38:28 2023 No.59040116 >>59039851 i think lui and chloe probably have the same manager. irys was probably just super happy to hear from hers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:44:51 2023 No.59040426 >>59038938 Shooting games have sponsors. The whole thing is about having gaming companies sponsor these events, none of them were just "promoting gaming".

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:46:06 2023 No.59040485 >>59039062 There was no trickery but management DID put pressure on them, so the ones that are weak to pressure caved. If they just staunchly said "No" then no one would have forced them to participate.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:47:26 2023 No.59040561 >>59040426 Then they should've just picked from the FPS girls, adding holostars just heavily damages anything they want to do

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:49:01 2023 No.59040635 >>59040485 I can't talk for the other girls but I think IRyS was just happy to do something with Towa since she confirmed with management there would be no homo interaction

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:50:36 2023 No.59040708 >>59038518 the guys spent the entire event pushing the girls anuses in and some fans of the girls, the few that bothered to watch in the first place, got salty. personally I thought it was kinda hot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:51:34 2023 No.59040763 >>59037693 The worst part of the program wasn't the unicorn tears it was fucking Overwatch 2

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:52:33 2023 No.59040811

>>59037693
>pressure weak willed holos into an event which will only alienate their fans
>even the biggest holo hugboxes hate it
Someone in management is definitely a nijinigger, fuck considering how incompetent Cover is they probably let the niji ceo make all the decisions.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:53:48 2023 No.59040874 >>59037836 But that's how sponsorships already work?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 12:59:58 2023 No.59041157 >>59038518 Check the video retard, you can’t say “muh all the hate is on 4chan” when the video itself has thousands of dislikes and tons of comments complaining

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:00:47 2023 No.59041205 >>59041157 Watching a one sided fight is just boring and shit for anyone watching, so people are going to call it shit. Who would have fucking thought that?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:02:07 2023 No.59041268 >>59039139 Yes. Well the entire Regloss isn't JP7 but new gen under new branch didn't help either.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:02:41 2023 No.59041292 >>59040874 Esports shooters and karimeshi are different products. They can be promoted in the same format but it's not ideal. The way I interpret it, it was meant to be appealing to marketing departments primarily.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:03:02 2023 No.59041308 >>59040561 Mixing holos and homos is what created this disaster, Cover has enough homos to make the match homo vs homo, plus it would've been less of a one-sided stomp.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:04:38 2023 No.59041376 >>59041308 > homo vs homo anon they wanted to make this somewhat profitable

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:06:05 2023 No.59041455 >>59041157 those are just the result of chinese dislike bombing

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:06:21 2023 No.59041467 >>59037693 Their fans are more loyal than Apple fags so they think they can do anything, one day that will came back to bite their asses

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:07:04 2023 No.59041511

>>59041308
>Cover has enough homos to make the match homo vs homo
Homo vs homo would have been less of a disaster but it still wouldn't have worked. Nobody's interested in seeing Cover do esports content. The vtubing company needs to remember it's about fucking vtubing.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:08:34 2023 No.59041578 >>59041376 >anon they wanted to make this somewhat profitable How does one profit from alienating viewers?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:08:40 2023 No.59041584 >>59041376 >anon they wanted to make this somewhat profitable That was doomed the moment they could only get 2 holos who were at least decent at shooters for it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:09:37 2023 No.59041626 >>59041578 >>59041467

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:11:49 2023 No.59041719 >>59041578 in their brainrotted corporate brains they really thought this would be a success, but even they know homo vs homo would be for nothing because they know nobody watches them

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:13:57 2023 No.59041815 >>59039037 By your logic, Gura is dead too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:14:49 2023 No.59041854 >>59037693 >What's even the point of this? Farming tears, and by looking at this thread is succeeded

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:14:52 2023 No.59041857 >>59041455 Cope more, very few other hololive video has that many dislikes (except gen 0’s 6th anniversary, which “coincidentally” also included homos and had many comments shitting on them)

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:15:53 2023 No.59041910 >>59041578 Cover cares more about the message than money

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:22:57 2023 No.59042180 >2023 >dislikes

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:23:31 2023 No.59042196

>>59037693
wasn't there some mission statement in there involving "breaking gender boundaries" and sexuality bullshit? because that seems to be getting more true as time goes on
maybe that odd fan guideline thing Cover released earlier this year really was some form of preemptive damage control

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:26:21 2023 No.59042298

>>59042196
Everyone knew that was preemptive damage control, if you don't search /here/ and 5chan you would think hololive has the best or one of the best fanbases in the world, for they to warn the fans it's because something that a lot of fans won't like will happen

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:27:19 2023 No.59042342 >>59042196 The guideline was cited when this was launched so you know it was created specifically for this shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:27:34 2023 No.59042359 >>59042196 The fan guidelines were poorly translated and later corrected to follow the Japanese version. You probably only remember the attention the initial version received.

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Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:31:02 2023 No.59042488
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>>59037836
Their mistake was asking Irys and Lui to join which open the floodgates of angry Unicorn (not just their fans, mind you). Should have used people like Laplus and others who are homo friendly, this could still see a modest success.
When both Irys and Lui have to justify themselves being there to their fans (regardless of the interraction with opposing team), the whole program is dead as doornail.
I believe there is no coercion, but asking them period was a glaring mistake on Management part.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:31:09 2023 No.59042492 >>59042196 and note that dev_is was released there was no public mission statement. only a bunch of awkward streams trying to explain it without explaining it.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:32:24 2023 No.59042545
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>>59037693
If you're going to include homostars, at least pick fucking holos that already doing homos / e celeb shit collab, instead they went full retard and picked fucking Chloe, Lui and Irys. Whatever happened to Matsuri, Laplus, hell throw fucking Mori in there during OW2 bs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:33:04 2023 No.59042561 >>59042488 I agree.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:33:07 2023 No.59042563 >>59037693 I just know that IRyS membership took a hit from this, it was funny too see her panic

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:35:53 2023 No.59042651 >>59038002 >OmegaAlpha-ing You mean rearing its head after periods of inactivity that cause people to say it’s dead repeatedly until internal management changes finally kill it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:40:50 2023 No.59042818 >>59042563 >Last non-member stream was literally one day after that HLZNTL Looks like it hits her harder than you said

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:42:45 2023 No.59042877
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>>59041376
I mean it would be quite funny if it was Homo vs Homo, they will get like 3-4k max combined viewer from their own channel and like 5k from Hololive Main channel.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:46:04 2023 No.59043010 >>59041157 >dislikes Ok retard

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:46:28 2023 No.59043029 >>59042877 Unironically, mixing the girls and the boys would've been a better idea than pitting them against each other and turn it into a curbstomp.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:47:16 2023 No.59043055 >>59042877 They know that's what would happen and that's why they didn't do it, they instead keep pushing this bullshit which chases away fans and makes people hate homos even more. They're such a big liability it's not funny

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:55:08 2023 No.59043327 >>59043055 Them just curbstomping didn't really help. I don't think a curbstomp is fun to watch for anyone and people are going to dislike it no matter what

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:56:53 2023 No.59043390 >>59043029 only better for the homosexuals and cucks, the unicorns would be 10 times as mad and never forgive the girls who agree to that.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 13:59:56 2023 No.59043481

Fact of the matter is that the girls are absolutely dogshit at video games, aside from a few specific exceptions here and there. It's just not viable to do e-sports focused events with them, they're just gonna curbstomped by Holostars or whatever people they invite that know what they're doing, and that's not fun to watch. God forbid they try to make these girls play some actual e-sports pros.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 14:04:57 2023 No.59043649 >>59043390 >the unicorns would be 10 times as mad and never forgive the girls who agree to that. Only Irys and Lui's fans Adding those two was a fatal mistake

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 14:13:56 2023 No.59043985 >>59043481 they haven't really focused on hiring strong gamers. Advent has one gamer. re:gloss so far has none. you have to have the gamers before you can do esports.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 14:17:03 2023 No.59044107 >>59043029 It would’ve been received even worse. The only plus side is because of the sheer fan revolt and indifference to Holozontal, we’ll probably never see it happen again.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 14:39:05 2023 No.59044913 >>59042488 I'm glad IRyS joined because it exposed her to the fact her EOP fans were traitorous fucks and has since resolved her focus on JP and JOP focus streams, who have been nothing short of welcoming and supportive.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 14:41:45 2023 No.59045006 >>59044913 Go back to doxsite sis.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:02:25 2023 No.59045893 >>59042488 the ones usually used for things like this said no, probably because of the retarded e-sports angle

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:04:52 2023 No.59046017 >>59041815 She's dead to me t. former chumbie

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:14:17 2023 No.59046510 >>59044913 lol lmao

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:16:27 2023 No.59046656 >>59044913 >holo vs holo Literal subhuman

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:18:14 2023 No.59046746 >>59037693 To show the shareholders that were begging for shit like this that it was a bad idea that would lose them money

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:23:32 2023 No.59047077 >>59037693 Failed experiments are important in seeing what can be done. Stop being retarded and just be glad they learned from this mistake.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:32:07 2023 No.59047548

>>59037836
>By picking specific holos and homos, they could get a desirable demographic mix which, in theory, would reach the audience the brand wants to target.
Cover obviously wants that but they can't have their cake and eat it too. They keep promoting Hololive talents with GFE merch and swimsuit concerts but than push HoloPro collabs. They are Schrodinger's vtubers in which they are either pretend waifus or general entertainers depending on the day of the week.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:32:14 2023 No.59047552 >>59047077 Failed experiment is one thing, heavily damaging your hard earned goodwill is another thing. The only solution is to axe the holostar branch

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:34:19 2023 No.59047662 >>59047548 Correct. I assume the prospect of such a marketing vehicle in their portfolio was too juicy to pass up, they had to try it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:34:24 2023 No.59047671 >>59047552 >Heavily damaging Pissing off a couple loud nignogs from /vt/ isn't damaging anything, kid.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:36:04 2023 No.59047735 Looks like they put some boundaries after all kek

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:36:22 2023 No.59047751 >>59047548 Like IRL idols then

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:38:30 2023 No.59047851 >>59047671 That event literally had less than 40% of the viewership of any other tournament in hololive history, if 60% of the viewers not showing up is a couple loud nignogs from /vt/ then I don't know what to tell you

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:40:25 2023 No.59047929 Esports is a dying "genre" They have a large quantity of fans but they're not paying fans. Not sure what this dogshit project was suppose to achieve. The most watched stream in Holo history, Dragon Graduation aside is a simple Tetris tournament.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:41:40 2023 No.59047992

>>59040635
Why wouldn't she just have a normal collab with her then? How is a sponsored collab with tons of people and a forced time limit and topics better than a collab zatsu where they can be together for like 5 hours. Irys is also in JP so how about just fucking hanging out with her any time they want lmao?

That whole
>I just wanted to do something with my senpais
Was BS and anyone that fell for it is a dumbass.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:46:44 2023 No.59048223 >>59047929 >The most watched stream in Holo history, Dragon Graduation aside is a simple Tetris tournament. One of Hololive's worst event, by the way.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:50:19 2023 No.59048363 >>59048223 Okay hoshyomi, Suisei will buy a new controller

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:56:18 2023 No.59048597

>>59047992
Because they're both busy with their own projects, IRyS said this numerous times but you don't watch streams so you wouldn't know. This was a project they could both participate in even if it was a trash fire, IRyS doesn't care about this shit, she just wants to hang out with her friends

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:57:34 2023 No.59048643

Here's what happened.
>Cover goes public
>Gets a bunch of investors
>Investors start asking questions
>What's the deal with this branch named "Holostars"? Why are you spending so much money, staff and resources on it? They're barely bringing any profit. They don't even get sponsorships.
Cover then proceeds to scramble around trying to come up with some shit to prop up the homos, enter HLZNTL. And Cover turns around to the investors and say
>Look look, this is a sponsorship by the boys and it has 18k viewers! And it was paid by Blizzard! Look at this amazing deal? Oh and the girls are there but don't pay attention to that. Anyway the boys are great right!?
At least that was the idea, but then the backlash happened. So who knows if they'll stick with this. What is clear though is that questions about the homos and their worth in the company has been brought up and Cover is struggling to make the relevant in any way they can. So expect more and more bullshit. I'm 100% sure the next Regloss gen will be a male one, they're trying anything and everything to justify their existence.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:59:19 2023 No.59048713 >>59047077 >the faggot CEO and his faggot management >learned from this mistake. AHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 15:59:28 2023 No.59048716

>>59037938
The girls are, by all accounts, not good at video games. For a game like Overwatch, it's impossible to put together a competent full-girls team, let alone 2. So I guess the plan was to have a team of girls for the views, and a team of guys to actually show good gameplay. What they didn't realize is this fundamentally doesn't work since they can't gender-mix the teams, the guys will just stomp the girls. It could've been 4v5 or even 3v5 and the guys still would've won.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 16:01:44 2023 No.59048788 >>59037693 Two?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 16:02:22 2023 No.59048813 >>59038518 retard it was the final proof once and for all that "unicorns" weren't a loud minority but the general audience

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 16:02:28 2023 No.59048818 >>59047671 >twitter hates it >reddit hates it >yt hates it >hlzntl page full of annoyed nips inb4 chink

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 16:04:28 2023 No.59048894 >>59048643 >They don't even get sponsorship They got more than low tier holos, since forever.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 16:07:56 2023 No.59049049 >>59048894 false

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 16:09:35 2023 No.59049115 >>59038938 Because FPS games are the biggest genre. Look at racing games, car brands and racing series have been trying to promote it for 20 years but nobody is watching.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 16:13:51 2023 No.59049256 I wonder if the IPO isn't actually what most people think it is and it will actually help one day excise the stars cancer

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 16:27:46 2023 No.59049803 >>59041815 Gura is dead they just changed the va like they did with that other population vtuber

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 16:40:22 2023 No.59050301 >>59047671 my guy even reddit openly hated this event and that sub is historically a goosestepping echochamber. you are delusional.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 16:42:17 2023 No.59050372 >>59039358 And Chloe just said 'I've played with boys before' and laughed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 16:43:30 2023 No.59050420 >>59050372 how badly did her fans react to that

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 16:47:51 2023 No.59050552 >>59038938 >Game shop Meruyama unironically great program, i hope they bring it back someday

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 16:49:22 2023 No.59050620 >>59050420 They love ntr

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 16:56:50 2023 No.59050921 >>59050420 Chloe has total control over her fans. They react however she tells them too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 17:13:05 2023 No.59051528 >>59050420 Laugh at the unitards Even in Hololive, it's not like the JP fanbase are monolithic as /vt/ pretend it was.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 17:18:01 2023 No.59051720 >>59037693 >business tries a new venture >it doesn't work as intended >business move on It's that simple. There's no need to make it a big deal.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 17:21:01 2023 No.59051845 >>59051720 And that's how business get bad reputation and in the end their main appeal dwindles

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 17:24:02 2023 No.59051962 >>59051720 They're gonna keep shitting out more failures like uproar, we all know it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 17:24:38 2023 No.59051991 >>59051845 Innovation comes with the risk of failure. If you are never willingly to take a bit of risk you will stagnate and die. Your reply tells me more about you than anything else.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 17:24:59 2023 No.59052003 >>59051720 >>business move on >but after we launch 4 more attempts and 4 more new homo gen

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 17:31:40 2023 No.59052272
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>>59051845
>And that's how business get bad reputation
VTubing BY ITSELF used to have a bad reputation, anon.
>It's not at the moment and I decided that
Time erodes everything in the world. Nothing is eternal. Companies will try new things whether you like it or not.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 17:33:36 2023 No.59052373

>>59051991
I literally own a business, but go on and parrot what you read about and heard from others, reality isn't that easy, if you want to bet your livelihood in a retarded idea then feel free, but don't cry when your main business starts to crumble because of reputation issues
If you want to risk something do it after an extensive search about your costumers and preparation, not shitting things at the last moment because of sponsor money and hoping people like it

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 17:36:50 2023 No.59052532

>>59051991
Innovation should also be done with some research beforehand. Hooters would be innovating if they were to put a bunch of dudes in speedos but they don't because they know any market they gain will not be worth the loss of their loyal consumers.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 17:44:24 2023 No.59052837

>>59037836
Companies can already approach them to do sponsored streams. They can already set up Hololive sponsored tournaments for games. Hlzntl was not needed, it doesn't make sense and it certainly isn't simple to understand its general purpose or existence.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 18:01:08 2023 No.59053531

>>59038518
Cover baited everyone into thinking the new brand was just for holos
Surprise shoved in homos for their very second sponsorship
Second sponsorship was fucking overwatch 2
For the holo side, they picked 3 girls that completely sucked at fps and never collabed with homos, so they were basically there as punching bags for homos
Numbers were basically halved compared to the previous sponsored event
The girls that collabed with the homos had to damage control by saying they were kind of forced by the management
Miko said she would never join that shit despite management insisting

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 18:06:31 2023 No.59053789

>>59039139
Yes
HLZTL + Regloss not being JP7 + Regloss interacting with the homos raised red flags among the fanbase. Everyone believed it was a new branch that tolerated homo collabs (hence the fact that they were not JP7) so they didn't sub to them. They were at 60k subs after the first day before the culls, when normally they would've broken 100k subs (council, holoX, advent) and only 20k a couple of days before the debut
It was so bad that they had to do multiple shilling streams telling everyone to watch the debuts and even got Micomet and Okakoro to do watchalongs

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 18:06:52 2023 No.59053806 >>59039506 >>59039598 They arent there to be gamers, they're there to promote homostars and let the stars style on them. they're the washington generals, there to lose and let the other team look good toying with them

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 18:13:08 2023 No.59054099

>>59039299
Pretty much this, it's like Holo management literally has no fucking idea how esports works in the fucking slightest and thinks "vi-deo ... games? like pacman? whatever just get whoever accepts into the match they're all the same." Suffice to say there's a reason VSPO is a thing that found a market, holo/niji just do not actually comprehend how this shit works at all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 18:19:42 2023 No.59054409 >>59037693 I thought the point of HLZNTL was too make a more palatable brand for gaming and esports sponsorships and events. Or at least that's how I remember the statement bout HLZNTL kind of went, I just read it once and moved on.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 18:20:37 2023 No.59054454

>>59051720
>business move on
Only that they don't move on. They keep trying to sneak the homos into the hololive brand
Can't call them hololive because of fanbase backlash? Let's come up with the name "hololive production". Now they are also hololive (productions)!
Can't call the starsEN hololive EN3? Well, let's use T3mpus and not debut EN3 for 2 years!
Need cross branch collabs without pissing off unicorns? Create a new brand called Hlztl and sneak them in our second event!
Need less backlash against homos? Let's debut (font size 6 hololive) dev_is and have them interact with the homos on Twitter, they can't be mad at us if they are not technically hololive JP7!

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 18:30:40 2023 No.59054829 >>59047992 Finally someone that gets it

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 18:32:07 2023 No.59054891 >>59048597 If she wanted to hang around friends she could do it in many other opportunities We are talking about a girl that never collabed with gura for being too shy

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 18:32:19 2023 No.59054902

>>59054454
this, it's so obvious when summarized like this. yet the audience says "... no." every time. literally what is their fucking problem. why do they think the audience there for cute girls will give a shit about dudes, they just won't. the Western audience only ever did to try to be polite and because they're too insecure about being called incels for speaking their minds and/or don't know how to say it politely.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 18:33:40 2023 No.59054959 >>59038518 were you in a cave retard

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 18:43:58 2023 No.59055359

>>59054902
Their problem is that they keep trying to copy what the competition does. Anycolor has popular males? We also debut males and try to compete with them.
Vspo seems to be doing well with the e-sport market? We will also make our own e-sport brand (despite not having pro players).
Genshin is popular? We will also make our own open world botw clone in unity

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 18:44:41 2023 No.59055392 >>59037693 The YouTube channel has like 3k subs lmao. Surprise surprise! All the “omg I hope they collab” only watch clips!

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 19:07:50 2023 No.59056396

>>59043985
>re:gloss so far has none.
Is Ririka bad? I peeped into her stream few times during armored core, anons here said it was terrible, but I checked she was doing fine, I think she even killed Ibis(great filter boss) fairly quickly.
Although she did say she never played FPS, so I guess that rules her out from this crap.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 19:30:06 2023 No.59057387 >>59050420 they're a lot like rushia's fans for better or worse

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 19:30:52 2023 No.59057430 File: 2 KB, 203x32, homothieves.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>59048894 Hell they even got Irys sponsor

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 19:44:20 2023 No.59058009

This thing had one redeeming feature: it clearly exposed the one who claimed they we're playing for the game and not for the date.
Just look at them bitch crying during the training phase of the Valorant exhibition match, none of them actually care for competition, none of them want to play in a woman only environment, they play for the male interaction and nothing else.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 20:19:14 2023 No.59059527 >>59057387 So they'll keep coming back no matter what she does to them? I guess she's safe then.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 20:23:37 2023 No.59059729 >>59047671 embarassing homobeggar denying reality

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 20:25:31 2023 No.59059818 >>59051720 Don't ask questions. Please keep consuming product and getting excited for new product.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 20:29:19 2023 No.59059959 >>59059527 she hasn't done anything egregious, at least not that we know of, but the same could've been said for rushia at some point so yeah their fate is likely sealed

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 20:33:18 2023 No.59060099 >>59037693 Mixing homos and holos was not a great start, especially one with the biggest unicorn fan base. Then the internet just hates OW2. It was dead on conception.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 20:34:14 2023 No.59060130 >>59051720 >Business makes a horrible move >Everyone hates it >The customers remember this

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 20:38:05 2023 No.59060289 >>59037693 this wouldn't have happened it they were called holo zenithal instead

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 20:41:13 2023 No.59060426
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>>59059527
>>59057387
>>59050420
>>59050372
Chloe's words can just be translate as "chill the fuck down, it's just a game and we are not even the same team or VC. More importantly, IT'S A FUCKING BLIZZARD SPONSORSHIP HOLY SHIT I LOVE BLIZZARD GAMES LET'S GOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

She is very confident and have girl-boss energy similar to Suisei. I respect that.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 21:38:01 2023 No.59062957

It's amazing how this event did nothing right, typically you luck into *something*.

Blizzard and OW2
Mixed collab
All but ensure the girls will get crushed due to lack of practice and not being good anyway.
REALLY make the outcome known by jamming in 3 girls who don't play FPS

What's weirder is that there was no reason for the teams to be like this. There's enough girls who are cool with playing with stars for it to work.
Fubuki, Aki, Calli, Polka, etc.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 21:41:45 2023 No.59063121 >>59062957 They could've made it all girls for a fun time or all homos for a snooze time but instead decided to piss off everyone for no reason

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 21:43:15 2023 No.59063175 >>59048643 nice fanfiction.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 21:44:08 2023 No.59063215 >>59057430 >Literally stealing the girls money for the Homos Still one of the most fucked up things to happen during Omegay's regime. The twink faggot better have transferred whatever money he got from that shit to IRyS.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 21:44:47 2023 No.59063233

>>59062957
>>59063121
there's a reason why the pokemon unite tournament did bad but not as much. Holofans don't like competitive games but likes the girls having fun together. Not to mention that the skill level was similar and everyone had their own moment to shiny while during the Valorant the only moment from the hololive team was Botan's quadrakill

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 22:02:54 2023 No.59064121 >what? You don't want more homos? too bad, we'll keep shoving them onto your face

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 22:04:10 2023 No.59064187 >>59037938 The homostars controversy only exists on /vt/, you damn mark

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 22:07:30 2023 No.59064354 >>59064187 Anon, just look at their channel, the tournament vod is less than 50% of everything else >muh blizzard >muh competitive game >muh sponsorship Even the practice has almost the double of views

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 22:11:53 2023 No.59064561

>>59037836
>By picking specific holos and homos, they could get a desirable demographic mix which, in theory, would reach the audience the brand wants to target.
The PR mission statement for HLZNTL seemed more reasonable: they wanted to become a gateway for companies to find vtubers (even outside of hololive) to help shill. More or less a way to cripple other agencies.
They tried to bootstrap it using Holos, but didn't realize that no one gives a fuck about FPS and then some retard got the idea to use Homos and it was fucking gg.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 22:15:36 2023 No.59064744 >>59064561 I believe it would've actually succeeded if they didn't include the faggots, it at least wouldn't have gotten shat on by everyone

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 22:23:01 2023 No.59065086

>>59048716
The entire point of the sponsorship was the show that OW2 is fun even for a newbie.
The homos, in their infinite wisdom, decided to curbstomp the girls and ultimately made the game look bad (not like it needed help) and pissed off the fans of the girls.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 22:26:37 2023 No.59065255

>>59037693
>Axed
No formal announcement and it's only been a few weeks. It's not like they get sponsorships at that level every single week.
>Everyone involved backpedalled
No proof, just poor conjecture. If your "proof" is that no one has said anything about it since then, then you're an idiot. That being said, I agree it was a terrible idea, but I hate people spreading misinformation even more.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 22:27:12 2023 No.59065279

>>59039299
Matsuri was busy preparing for her 3D Live at that time otherwise I'm sure she'd have been on the roster.
>>59038953
Miko was asked, kept getting asked apparently and had to keep telling management to fuck right off.
In the end they went with the path of least resistance: those they could bully into it or just wear down, or the downright mercenary despite having zero skill (Chloe)

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 22:31:57 2023 No.59065468

>>59065279
For the valorant one, Nene said her manager kept pulling her into meetings to try and convince her to join the program. Even told her that she needs to branch out to gain more popularity or some shit.
Lui also said something about how management kept pressuring her to join and telling her that they need the girls to make the sponsorship a success.

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 22:34:27 2023 No.59065550

>>59065468
>Lui also said something about how management kept pressuring her to join and telling her that they need the girls to make the sponsorship a success.
I heard about the pressure but I never heard the extent of it wow, I really hope all the faggots involved were fired

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 22:43:44 2023 No.59065923 >>59065550 >fired Bet they got promoted for making another "succesful" holo-homo collab

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 22:45:41 2023 No.59066005 >>59065923 I don't think even suits can consider this a success by any single metric

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 22:49:11 2023 No.59066128 >>59066005 Yagoo doesn't care, one step closer for his great dream and he'll keep trying.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 22:51:29 2023 No.59066215 >>59066128 he can't possibly be this blind, every single event like this just makes more people hate them even more, unless this is a 5D chess strategy to have a reason to completely axe the stars I don't get it

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 23:04:56 2023 No.59066787 >>59066215 He'll keep siphoning money from holos if that means homos get 10 more viewers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 22 23:05:48 2023 No.59066827 >>59065550 the japs are a lot like the euros, so I don't expect anyone to get fired no matter how much they fuck up

Anonymous Fri Sep 22 23:54:47 2023 No.59069148
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>>59066005
cover will show them only the money they get from shilling oversleep 2 and some positive comments on twitter to make them think it was a massive success
can't wait for future holizontal tourney streams!

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 00:02:00 2023 No.59069516 >>59051720 >There's no need to make it a big deal Cover's reputation took permanent damage from HLZNTL. That's a pretty big deal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 00:12:54 2023 No.59070111 >>59066787 >He'll keep siphoning money from holos Not if the investors have anything to say about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 00:14:48 2023 No.59070206 >>59047552 >It will definetly happen this time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 00:17:32 2023 No.59070378 >>59069148 there are no positive comments on the official hlzntl twitter and both the twitter and the youtube channel have dismal numbers

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 00:21:16 2023 No.59070548 >>59070206 Yagoo will struggle to justify why Cover is keeping the Homos around when they're such a terrible investment every time they have an investor meeting. The market is against Homos and Yagoo can't ignore market pressure forever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 00:22:08 2023 No.59070595 >>59070548 is this pressure in the room with us right now

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 00:23:54 2023 No.59070694 >>59069516 Yeah just like the other one hundred times lol.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 00:24:59 2023 No.59070738 >>59070548 >It will definetly happen this time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 00:30:38 2023 No.59071023 >>59070548 I don't see homos getting fired, as much as I wish it'd happen. It's easy to say it'd hurt the company image and talent morale. We can only hope it will be harder for him to debut more homos given they are clearly such a bad investment.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 00:32:56 2023 No.59071137 >>59071023 I can see it damaging the company image in the short run but I don't see it damaging anyone's morale

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 00:37:57 2023 No.59071393 >>59071137 If the idea that dips in numbers can get you straight up fired sticks, it'd surely cause a lot of stress.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 00:39:40 2023 No.59071479 >>59070548 The investors are just figureheads in Cover, lmao. Even if they combined all their shares they don't even reach 40%.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 00:43:01 2023 No.59071627

>>59037836
Would have worked had the Holostars can actually hold their own, but the differences in popularity between the two created nothing but manufactured drama and resentment within the fanbase and probably the Holos themselves. The Holo girls know they're just being used to pull in the views, while the Holostars know that they're riding the coattails of the girls.
I think if Cover wants to continue to go ahead with this project, they should just get a professional coaches (with no baggage, family man types, or ideally female pros) for each team of Hologirls, and show how beginners can have fun with the games under the tutelage of professional players, kinda similar to the Street Fighter CR cup with Korone/Botan which was pretty well-received.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 00:43:23 2023 No.59071647

>>59070595
>is this pressure in the room with us right now
Yes.

>>59070694
>Yeah just like the other one hundred times lol.
Cover went public just recently. And since then two members of Tempus got axed, HLZNTL was a complete debacle, and reGLOSS is the most underperforming gen Holo JP history due in part to their Homo interactions. The Homos poison everything they touch, they're a bad investment, and investors were already asking questions before all this shit went down. Now they're going to ask more questions and apply more pressure. Yagoo can't protect those parasites forever now that Cover is publicly traded.

>>59070738
>It will definetly happen this time.
Yes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 00:45:21 2023 No.59071759 >>59071647 >investors were already asking questions before all this shit went down I really want to believe, where is this happening?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 01:35:49 2023 No.59074476 >>59037693 The point was to showcase that cover management is detached from reality and doesn't know why hololive is popular.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 02:05:29 2023 No.59076108 >>59074476 but that was already well known

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 02:43:08 2023 No.59078332

Even if you ignore the homo problem, this whole thing still feels like it was cooked up by some out of touch business man in upper management, someone who have absolutely no idea how things actually work on the ground. It’s like they heard a few buzzwords, think esports is some revolutionary idea and try to act smart. They are basically on the level of WW1 generals ordering an attack through a marshland.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 02:48:34 2023 No.59078643

>>59071759
Investors straight up said that the homos failed in getting female viewers (their main purpose) and they wanted to know what Yagoo’s next serious attempt at gaining that market was.
This new program being a shit show will most likely pop up at the next investor meeting cause it was supposed to be their new major sponsor program.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 02:49:19 2023 No.59078684 >>59070548 They're not going to get dissolved. It just isn't going to happen. No matter how much you wish they would.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 03:08:41 2023 No.59079832 >>59078643 It could still become a major sponsor program but i don't wan't to see it become the next CR cup. Holomems already interact with too many flesh e-celebs

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 03:45:47 2023 No.59081968 >>59078684 >They're not going to get dissolved. It just isn't going to happen. What are you basing that on? It makes no business sense to keep the Homos employed and investors are going to keep hammering that point home to Yagoo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 03:46:16 2023 No.59081996 >>59071647 I don't really think you even watch anyone, you just want to start drama with information that you got from /#/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 03:48:13 2023 No.59082096 >>59081968 Yagoo is a human, he doesn't see numbers, he sees people. Firing 10 people wouldn't sit right with him

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 03:48:34 2023 No.59082111 >>59081996 >searching for argument >... >... >... >no argument found Uh oh, Anon! Looks like you don't have an argument!

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 03:49:40 2023 No.59082157 >>59081968 Man holostars antis are so insistent, they did not axed the branch when they were 2views so it's definetly not happening now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 03:51:04 2023 No.59082227 >>59037693 >a jewish trick point? Hahahahhaha

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 03:51:29 2023 No.59082248 >>59082111 >Thinks i'm going to waste time arguing with some vt catalog poster.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 03:54:24 2023 No.59082397
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>>59044913
>the JP are nothing but supportive
the ones who talk, your other sisters are running anti-JP narratives generally because they know better and look on you as a hopeless weeb.

man if only there was some way for you to have demographic growth like having a factory inside of you that makes another one of you allowing you to slowly advance the interests of your own kind by expanding it's population. you should work on getting one of those you really need it to be able to win this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 03:54:38 2023 No.59082404 >>59082096 Well too fucking bad for Yagoo, because now he's got shareholders and a responsibility to make good business decisions that benefit them. He no longer lives in a fantasy land where dead weight like the Homos can be employed for eternity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 03:55:16 2023 No.59082433 >>59055359 This The only time it worked was when they copied Niji ID and made their own branch Who knows what would've happened if they wasted resources on a Holo India branch beyond just having a (now abandoned) Twitter account

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 03:56:51 2023 No.59082522 >>59082404 as much as I want this to be true you I know it's not going to happen, not soon anyway

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 03:58:34 2023 No.59082603 >>59082157 Cover didn't have shareholders back when Stars JP were 2views. You keep selectively ignoring the fact that Cover is publicly traded now which means Yagoo can't waste money on failed experiments like he used to.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 04:01:09 2023 No.59082715

>>59082404
What do you imagine the upkeep of having these guys around actually is? Especially now they have far more studio capacity and there is not as much of an opportunity cost of giving that studio time to the homos instead of the girls. I wouldn't care if they got rid of the homos but I don't see it happening due to financial concerns, the most the investors might do is attempt to nix any more projects designed to mix them with the product that actually sells (the girls) and leave them to languish as they have been doing for years already.

There will never be a mass firing imo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 04:02:34 2023 No.59082788 I don't have the >things cover should do for their talents.txt file anymore but I wonder if someone's been updating it

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 04:03:07 2023 No.59082814 >>59082404 He can keep them around. It's just now he's going to have to give the girls complete priority for 3D stuff as well as stop trying to force them down everyone's throats.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 04:08:06 2023 No.59083044

>>59082715
>What do you imagine the upkeep of having these guys around actually is?
It's about the return on investment. You invest time and money in Hololive, you get a shitload of money in return. You invest time and money in Holostars, you get a comparatively small amount of money in return. Now also take into account the fact that Holostars keeps harming Hololive, which is Cover's golden goose. Business-wise it just makes no sense to keep the Stars around.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 04:20:41 2023 No.59083729

>>59083044
>Now also take into account the fact that Holostars keeps harming Hololive
Like I said, I think HLZNTL was a stupid idea and regloss being associated with it definitely did harm them but I still don't think it ends with them closing an entire branch and just giving up on capturing that female audience that investors want.

The shareholders asking why they cannot get a female audience doesn't read to me as them encouraging Yagoo to throw in the towel, quite the opposite actually. I expect them to continue throwing shit at the wall trying to make it work because they want a diverse business model and not to cede ground to their competitors, realistically I think they won't even give up on the esports shit because again, the investors just see it as extra markets to extract money from.

Just a question of if they stop trying to use Hololive girls to prop these projects up or not or if they even register the damage they cause doing so.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 04:22:19 2023 No.59083824 >>59083729 they should just keep all the experimental garbage for stars

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 04:36:55 2023 No.59084529 >>59062957 Even the holos who don‘t mind collabing wit stars probably realized that the event would be a total shitshow and not fun for anyone involved

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 05:04:18 2023 No.59085972 To satisfy the shareholders who's still adamantly wanted to "Nijisanji-fy" Hololive If the project went to shit, maybe they will finally shut up about it

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 05:08:00 2023 No.59086166 >>59085972 the ones who oppose or are neutral will definitely have a reason to tell them to shut up next time

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 05:14:31 2023 No.59086536 why 4chan schizos really likes to be an armchair business investor when all they do is browsing vt and /#/

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 05:45:32 2023 No.59088046 >>59086536 why do esl seanigs like you think that pretending to be human makes you one?

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 05:45:42 2023 No.59088052

>>59079832
That's exactly what Cover wants.
They have a section in their mission statement that included integration with flesh streamers and they got so much backlash over that particular line that they deleted it from their mission statement a couple days later.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 05:52:10 2023 No.59088321

>>59037836
both you and Cover failed to ask the most important question an entertainment company should be asking about its projects.
> how does this entertain our audience?
holos themselves know the answer to this question better than the company EVER will.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 06:11:22 2023 No.59088967 >>59065550 Cover probably promoted the guy who came up with the idea

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 07:13:07 2023 No.59091100 >>59082404 >shareholders Yagoo owns 40% himself and he hits 50+% with just two of his oldfag cronies. Nigga ain't doing shit if doesn't want to.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 07:47:29 2023 No.59092084 >>59088046 your opinion is literally dirt trash faggot, not worth a penny to cover interns so why should they listen to (You)?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 07:54:10 2023 No.59092283 >>59091100 Kek. Do you seriously think Yagoo can just do whatever he wants while investors bail and the stock price craters? That isn't how it works.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 07:59:07 2023 No.59092440 File: 39 KB, 389x464, bummer.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>59071023 >it'd hurt the company image and talent morale

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 08:51:25 2023 No.59093765 >>59037836 When will cover will be so bold as to make a new branch for mixed gens?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 08:56:12 2023 No.59093869 >>59092283 >Holostars exist he can do anything he wants as long as, pekora, miko and koyori are making money

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 09:00:08 2023 No.59093934 >>59092440 There are "people" that unironically think that some JP members (like Fubuki and Matsuri) would quit if the homos got fired.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 09:02:24 2023 No.59093976 >>59086536 because jap business investors are fucking retarded

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 09:21:35 2023 No.59094400 File: 518 KB, 1080x1520, IMG_20230922_210824.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>59065550

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 09:38:06 2023 No.59094732 >>59037836 What else is on the teleprompter Cover-chan?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 09:39:01 2023 No.59094751 >>59094400 from this and nene it looks like cover really was trying to get their own e-sports thing off the ground. in a typical jap move they waited until the e-sports scene was dying to make their own

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 09:47:36 2023 No.59094895

>>59053531
Oh darn. Poor them, imagine having to play video games with MALES. It's not like the fans could grow a fucking spine and just not watch it and the girls could have just declined like miko. You fags gotta make drama out of everything and act like you're some marginalized group. Unironically touch grass, there's more important shit in life than sperging out that your favorite ethot in anime girl clothing played a shitty game with some dudes and got fucking stomped.

>inb4 sister
I only fap to anime girls, I don't turn schizo over irrelevant bullshit or get invested in their kayfabe life.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 09:48:03 2023 No.59094905

>>59094751
jap esports never really happened in the first place. the covid apex craze is really the first time they have had a widespread popular competitive game since, like, sf2 arcades. finding a way to get japanese esports to actually fire off is one of the white whales of video game capitalism.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 09:52:31 2023 No.59094983

>>59094400
>Wants to play
>Gets utterly stomped because she has fucking IRyS' 1 braincell on her team
>Backpedals ever after like she didn't want to play
At least when she loses to the stars in MK there will be documentation when she says again she didn't want to play

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 10:53:11 2023 No.59096275 >>59094983 wtf are you talking about?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 11:03:04 2023 No.59096510 >>59094905 That's interesting. Why didn't esports become massive in Japan? Outside of fighting games in the 90's of course.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 11:59:48 2023 No.59098630 >>59096510 >Why didn't esports become massive in Japan? because the addictive personality types that would've been sucked into e-sports were already stuck in gacha or touhou shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 13:01:59 2023 No.59100826 >>59037836 mucho texto

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 13:08:27 2023 No.59101060

>>59100826
Such a succinct reflection of an era that fervently champions the disintegration of the once-respected ability to, you know, read. I suppose it's all the rage these days to proudly broadcast a reading comprehension that wouldn't challenge a potato. Bravo, my good compadre. Bravo.

See, in a time overflowing with the wonders of information, where the sum of human knowledge is just a tap away, it's truly an exquisite choice to not only abstain from partaking in this intellectual banquet but also to cry out like a petulant child forced to sit at the dinner table a minute longer than they'd like. "Mucho texto"? How refreshingly pedestrian.

Perhaps you lament the cruel design of a world where text is as ubiquitous as the air we breathe. It must be sheer torture to go about your day, faced with the nightmarish ordeal of road signs, product labels, and horror of horrors, those insufferable user agreements that require not just reading but - oh, the humanity! - understanding. What a twisted, Kafkaesque world you must navigate daily.

Think of the countless tragedies you must endure. Like misinterpreting the "caution, hot" warning on a coffee cup and wondering why your lap feels like it's auditioning for a Dantean circle of hell. Or when the assembly instructions for your latest impulse buy from IKEA seem more like deciphering the Rosetta Stone, leaving you with an abstract art piece instead of a coffee table. I genuinely shed a tear for you.

The very fact that our society dares to be text-heavy? It’s an abomination. I mean, honestly, how dare the world not cater to those with the attention span of a gnat on caffeine? And to think, such simple pleasures as books, newspapers, or comprehensible tweets are but inaccessible El Dorados to some. Truly, it's the unsung humanitarian crisis of our generation.

But let me extend my deepest and most genuine sympathies, for you're not just battling with textual inundation, but also with those callous souls who have the audacity to craft sentences longer than the lifespan of your average goldfish's memory. The nerve of some people. Fucking poets.

Please accept my most profound apologies for expecting even a modicum of mental exertion. How thoughtless of me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 13:14:55 2023 No.59101325 >>59082157 >when they were 2views You say as if that's in the past, look at others homos besides Roberu and Astel

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 13:16:28 2023 No.59101392 >>59082397 Holy newfag, yes, jps are all supportive and they don't care about male collabs, trust me

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 13:18:54 2023 No.59101483

>>59092440
>>59093934
>>59071023
>>59071137
but look at how devestated Mori and Kronii are after Vesper and Magni were fired, they didnt stream for months and were going to quit!
Oh wait no, they continued and barely mentioned it or cared and started doing better collabs with other girls

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 13:19:04 2023 No.59101494 >>59094895 Sister, calm down

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 13:38:18 2023 No.59102196 >>59098630 you have absolutely no idea what touhou is lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 13:40:15 2023 No.59102279 >>59094895 Take your pill, sister.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 13:41:04 2023 No.59102316 >>59101494 >>59102279 imagine if you spent less time worrying about being cucked by talking anime heads and more time watching streams wouldn't that be cool

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 13:42:27 2023 No.59102378 >>59102316 Watch your boys, sis. They need your support more than my girl.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 13:43:44 2023 No.59102430 >>59040811 That or Omega was promoted to HoloJP management

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 13:51:19 2023 No.59102720 >>59101060 Kek, exuberant pasta. Probably missing a comma or two though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 13:51:51 2023 No.59102736 >>59102720 5 seconds in gpt4

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 13:55:56 2023 No.59102899 >>59102736 Feel free to compliment our future AI overlords on my behalf then. As well as your contribution as a director, I guess.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 14:48:01 2023 No.59105089 >>59037693 this sounds like haato named it cute

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 16:04:42 2023 No.59107868 >>59102196 and yet a billion nips are addicted to it regardless faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 16:05:22 2023 No.59107905 >>59107868 no need to be mad, on 4chan when you get exposed for being clueless you just stop posting. you'll learn.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 16:06:41 2023 No.59107953 >>59107905 instant reply fucking kek pathetic

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 17:08:39 2023 No.59110384 >>59107868 What does being “addicted” to touhou even mean? They read doujins? The games aren’t monetized.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 17:20:28 2023 No.59110878

>>59043029
That would make the unicorns seethe. Which I consider neutral, neither good nor bad. The bigger point is this: what’s the point of that? Are you trying to watch competent FPS with mixed-gender teams? Then why aren’t you watching fleshtubers? Do you want to watch vtubers specifically do this shit? Then why aren’t you on twitch? Do you mostly watch vtuber girls play FPS but don’t mind if they occasionally play with guys? Then shouldn’t you be watching VSPO?
Nobody who watches Hololive or Holostars comes for this. And the important effect of that is that no one in either corpo is used to making that sort of content anyway.
>TLDR: Even if they did do what you suggested, other people already do it better. That’s not what Hololive or Holostars is about

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 17:21:18 2023 No.59110908 >>59102720 If you don’t read you don’t learn what words like “exuberant” mean and then you look stupid online

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 17:25:18 2023 No.59111117

>>59043481
>>59043985
Cover has built the company around cute girls doing cute things. The reason they can’t have even a mildly competent esports team is the same reason you don’t have any pitchers batting not named Shohei Ohtani, who is so rare baseball only gets a guy like him even century (meaning definitely no one like that exists in vtubing).
If you got into Hololive, it’s because you worked hard to pass an audition that doesn’t focus on esports. You worked towards being a Hololive member, which isn’t related to esports. You didn’t and don’t have time to train like a professional gamer.
Istg if they want to make esports and vtubing a thing, just get the actual pros and make them stream with cute anime girl avatars. That shit’s hilarious, and people would mostly be there for the esports and not the vtubing anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 17:27:24 2023 No.59111213 >>59107868 Just joined the thread to laugh at this posing newfaggot getting exposed RUMAO

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 17:37:44 2023 No.59111700

>>59039013
Happens all the time in wrestling, management approaches a midcarder with a shit idea and go:
>hey look at this big opportunity we're gracefully offering you, better make the most of it
and what they really mean is:
>we need to saddle someone with this stupid shit, go for it or we'll sabotage you backstage

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 18:13:40 2023 No.59113302
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>>59111700
It's exactly this, do you think those spineless faggots would go up to a Pekora or a Kiara and ask them?
Absolutely not, because they have enough pull backstage to get them fired

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 19:49:03 2023 No.59117385 >>59065255 >you're not really right, just technically right >I hate you grrrrrrrrrr KWAB

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:06:15 2023 No.59118161

>>59096510
I think part of it is due to all the companies trying to capitalize on esports are all western, so there’s little incentive for Japan to care at all. That’s why Capcom is giving out a 1 million dollar prize pool for the first time ever, SF5 got prizes a fraction of that size. SF6 is one of the first and last chances for esports to blow up in Japan and it’s a genre they can compete in, they’ve never given a fuck about FPS which have dominated esports for years.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:31:04 2023 No.59119323 >>59070548 Investors don't ask "why are you keeping homos" though, they say "why can't your homos make as much as Anycolor's do?" when they look at Anycolor making way more money than Cover.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:26:52 2023 No.59122157 >>59037693 The last event was only a few weeks ago, it's not like this was supposed to be a common thing, just an event every so often.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:40:07 2023 No.59122814

>>59092440
>>59093934
yes, randomly firing an entire branch for not getting the same viewership as the girls would make even the average hololive fan and the members themselves mad at cover. you'd have to be a complete corporate bootlicker to support that kind of behavior because even a black company like anycolor wouldn't stoop that low. not to mention the actual former idols in hololive also have bad experiences with the groups they were in treating the lower performing members poorly and essentially kicking them out for not being as popular and once the company admits to only caring about popularity over the members themselves, even if it's in relation to a group YOU don't like, you'd probably see a complete morale shift across the entire company with quite a few(not just the ones that talked to holostars) who will start to lose motivation knowing that the company will treat them worse if they aren't up to the standards of the most popular. it's a slippery slope you don't want to cross, once you accept it with holostars, soon it will be "oh Flare doesn't get enough CCV on her streams compared to Marine, why should she get a new outfit?" then "oh kanata didn't get enough views on her latest cover compared to suisei's, why should we let her take up studio time over her?" then "oh we noticed some members don't sell as much merch, why are we wasting money on specialized unique merch? we'd save more just doing standardized stuff!"

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:43:48 2023 No.59122976 >>59122814 >randomly firing an entire branch holofags do support this though? cover already did it to the Chinese branch

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:48:30 2023 No.59123232 >>59122814 They would be praised to the heavens if ALL holostars died overnight

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:49:15 2023 No.59123268 >>59122976 That's a completely different situation and you know it.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:51:05 2023 No.59123347

>>59123232
maybe the mentally ill people would. but the average person would rightfully point out how fucking shitty that behavior is and would start worrying about their own oshi's future. Once you start letting shareholder money hungry decisions effect company efforts, you'll start seeing more black company decisions pop up. Shareholders are already trying to do some pretty shitty things, like suggest the girls get less money off of superchats and merch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:53:40 2023 No.59123488 File: 147 KB, 311x292, 1659964388442545.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>59037693 no onyan no party

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:58:58 2023 No.59123768

>>59122814
Nothing wrong with the male branch and their low revenue as long as they stay in their lines and don't affect the girls. once they affect the girls and damage the brand, they need to go, because 1 holo is worth more than the entire homo branch
Remove the hololive production nonsense and do like BanG Dream! with their male branch
>From Argonavis' former name was stylistically written in all caps (ARGONAVIS from BanG Dream!) to differentiate the project and band names. Although it was titled Argonavis from BanG Dream!, the BanG Dream! franchise creator Takaaki Kidani stated that there will be no interaction between the girls in the main BanG Dream! universe and the new project as they are in different worlds from the one another.[6] While the Argonavis project was originally planned as an extension of the general BanG Dream! franchise, mixed reception to the appearance of male characters in the original all-female franchise prompted Argonavis to be turned into an independent project in an alternative continuity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:01:42 2023 No.59123896 >>59123768 they literally did this and it's literally what YAGOO says ruined their debut

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:03:32 2023 No.59123997 >>59037836 The amount of retards on this board that didn't understand it was a sponsorship thing was mind boggling.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:04:33 2023 No.59124048 >>59053531 It is so sad to be someone that got upset over this lol

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:05:33 2023 No.59124120

>>59123896
Their debuts were ruined because they SUCK. If they debuted under the hololive brand, hololive would've been 774 tier and would've never become the current vtubing powerhouse
They also got incorporated into the "hololive productions" brand. A big fucking mistake that was exploited by omega into pushing for homos in the west

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:05:34 2023 No.59124123 >>59047992 Because they get paid for sponsorships dumbass

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:07:54 2023 No.59124259 >>59086536 Literally it's a defense mechanism to feign emotional detachment. Most people are just genuinely mad that a woman somewhere is interacting with another man.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:11:18 2023 No.59124488 >>59124259 Damn right sister! #cut4hex

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:17:11 2023 No.59124843 >>59124048 Good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:20:36 2023 No.59125056 >>59086536 it doesnt take years of studies and experience to realize that doing shit that actively go against everything your customers want is bad business

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:23:49 2023 No.59125235

>>59124120
I dunno looking at it from the perspective of someone that is just interested in numbers and making money it looks more like Cover is leaving a lot of money on the table by failing to appeal to half the population in any significant way.

Just compare the revenue of the top 2 companies, Anycolor that has a mixed gender operation with a mixed gender fanbase brings in $60 million last quarter while Cover brings in only just over half of that at $34 million. Like its not even in the same ball park, appealing to both genders is clearly far more successful as a strategy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:24:02 2023 No.59125245 >>59125056 Tell that to mcdonalds and their obsession with salads

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:30:50 2023 No.59125623

>>59124120
>Their debuts were ruined because they SUCK.
no, they didn't stand a chance because cover made mentioning them taboo and basically tried to launch a new company while getting met with anger from people like you who then created a bad image of them to the outside observer. If a vtuber debuted and when you went to check them out, all you saw were angry and negative comments, you'd probably leave. You click on a video with more dislikes than likes and the first thing the average person assumes is that the video is not worth the time or is bad without even giving it a chance.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:31:10 2023 No.59125641

>>59125235
The revenue numbers need context. Cover didn't get as much as anycolor because their best performing quarter is always the holofes quarter, while Anycolor overperforms during koshien quarter. Anycolor also has better merch margins and better scalability in merch sales. That has nothing to do with having mixed gender operation.

Cover offers a completely different product as Anycolor. Hololive only got popular because it was an all girl group made of fantasy creatures/animal girls and attracted idol fans, so there's no overlap between cover and anycolor. This is not 1+1=2. You force males into hololive and you risk losing viewers and revenue, not earning more.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:34:19 2023 No.59125796

>>59125623
Retard, they were hated before they even debuted. It was a good thing the homos didn't debut under the hololive brand, or else they would've crashed the entire hololive branch
You already have precedents on other all girls franchises getting flamed by their customers when they tried to push males into it (imas, bandori) and all these years of stars failing to get a sizeable audience should've been enough to tell you them being associated with hololive is bad for both sides
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv74pMZTLPk

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:42:01 2023 No.59126223

>>59125796
You clearly can't tell what Miyabi is saying here. He's basically saying that hardcore unicorns basically didn't give them a chance to actually be themselves, they had to walk on eggshells even before debut because the slightest thing could invite hostility, and even people outside of hololive avoided collabing with them because of the image people had of them and because mentioning them was taboo, nobody knew it existed unless you were a hardcore vtuber otaku who was actively looking for it. Literally what I said, people who met the debuts with anger and hostility ruined any chance they could've had, combined with the impossible task of putting yourself out there under those conditions.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:51:54 2023 No.59126774

>>59125641
I'm looking at Anycolor's numbers and the 1st quarter for them has been their worst quarter every year since as far as their numbers go back... But yeah you are right that forcing males into Hololive probably wouldn't work out too well at this point. As an investor though you must be sat there thinking, why cant they just launch a male product and have it do well too? Is it purely luck that Hololive is a currently a success if the people running it can't launch males and make them a success when other companies prove you can make males a success?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:55:50 2023 No.59126990 >>59048813 They really aren't. They're just yelling louder than ever because they (rightfully) fear for their lives. They're still not wanted, go pester some 2view.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:57:50 2023 No.59127084 >>59126990 so true sister, total victory over the evil unicorns any day now

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:06:56 2023 No.59127568

>>59048813
Just because hardcore unicorns are the only ones willing to yell and make a scene, doesn't mean they're the majority. You can make a thread here with a large amount of posters saying you hate Mori or something and get a bunch of people agreeing with you here, but that doesn't necessarily mean the whole fanbase hates Mori. It just means that there's a group of people willing to complain about her that will all gladly circlejerk each other when given the opportunity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:15:51 2023 No.59128047 >>59127568 >cuckbeat is a homobeggar EVERY SINGLE TIME

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:41:23 2023 No.59132367 is this thread finally gonna die?

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:57:20 2023 No.59133243

>>59119323
Anycolor makes more money because it has 8000 streamers and pays them nothing and invests no money into anything

Cover makes less because it wants to retain talents and invest in the future, some of these investments like the 3d studio are a good idea, others might not be

they're entirely different types of operations

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:10:09 2023 No.59134201 >>59133243 >muh investment >muh 3D studio Meanwhile Anycolor puts out one 3D stream/show like every other day by literally anyone with a model, willing to put forth a project, and book the studio.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:12:13 2023 No.59134372 >>59134201 PFFFFFFFFT BAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:14:38 2023 No.59134590 >>59037836 Literally no one wants to see their oshi shill western garbage with homos I wouldn't even wish it on deadbeats Imagine a fucking clash of clans homocollab, jesus christ

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:17:10 2023 No.59134795 >>59038518 All the girls had to damage control the event, then they got absolutely destroyed in said event The event was for one of the lowest rated games of all time

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:22:18 2023 No.59135193 >>59133243 Revenue has nothing to do with costs anon. Anycolor upgraded with buying a second studio a full year before Cover made their investment in a new one.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:22:35 2023 No.59135213

>>59048813
You will never get some guys to accept this.
They believe they are "good" fans by virtue of not demanding anything from the girls, despite never financially supporting them in any meaningful way nor giving them any real critique or insight that actually helps the girls further develop their channel and career

You will never convince them they are actually leeches on the community who could honestly just be replaced with viewbots

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:25:22 2023 No.59135447

>>59050420
Chloe is a coombaiter, her fans don't really respect her as a person so they don't care about her playing with men.

Girls that make sexuality their only appeal have freedom to collab with men but they become a degradation joke to their community, it's how a lot of girls on twitch are

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:26:42 2023 No.59135554 >>59051720 Anon i emailed cover jp with deepl to specifically shit on them for doing partnerships with black companies like activisionblizzard to shovel slop into JP fans mouths

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:28:12 2023 No.59135660 >>59094895 Do you even realize what hobby you're in lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:02:43 2023 No.59138403 >>59127568 >>59127568 Hardcore unicorns who kick up shit are a small minority. A significant majority just find it distasteful and won't say anything, but given long enough might just go elsewhere.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:10:00 2023 No.59138918 File: 2 KB, 120x120, pill_1f48a.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>59037938 this is (You)r brain on unicorn schizo retardation (TM) take meds and follow them up with bleach

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:11:57 2023 No.59139074 >>59135213 >he UNIRONICALLY ACTUALLY THINKS that he matters more because the throws money around kys

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:15:21 2023 No.59139368

>>59037938
>probably scare companies away from working with cover again
imagine actually thinking this with blizzard of all people being the ones sponsoring it. men and women playing together and some random dudes getting mad about that is honestly tame for controversies game companies find themselves in.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:28:56 2023 No.59140520 >morning SEA time >homobeggars and defenders out of nowhere Hmmm...

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