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58918036 No.58918036 [Reply] [Original]

>Bae wants to hold a worldwide concert tour
>But she isn't confident that she could even fill a venue on her own let alone dozens of them on a tour
How do we solve the girls' impostor syndrome issues in EN? Was Connect the World instantly selling out within seconds not enough proof for them?

>> No.58918197

>>58918036
idk, it's too much of a risk to start with a world tour. maybe she can try consecutive concerts in big cities to gain momentum. if it goes well then ok, but if not her confidence won't be shattered so hard

>> No.58919519

>>58918036
honestly I doubt any single girl other than like exclusively Gura, IRyS or Mori could fill a venue on their own so it's probably warranted

>> No.58919846

>>58918036
>Was Connect the World instantly selling out within seconds not enough proof for them?
I want to see a hololive concert in person one day, How the FUCK do you get a ticket if there's 20,000 japs with a page refresh macro who will steal your ability to purchase one?

>> No.58919888

>>58918036
It's not imposter syndrome if she's right. No way in hell she's filling multiple venue as a solo act.

>> No.58920433

>>58918036
Well she's right, she is not gonna fill large venues

>> No.58920901

Wouldn’t a streaming concert locked behind a paywall give a better, almost risk free, indication of how many people would attend and from where? I’d drop bills on that.

>> No.58921833

>>58920901
>Wouldn’t a streaming concert locked behind a paywall give a better, almost risk free, indication of how many people would attend and from where?
That is why Cover is putting so much resources into HoloEarth. They can test how many paywall concerts they can put on each year and get a much larger cut of the ticket price.

>> No.58922024

>>58918036
>fill a venue on her own
>Was Connect the World instantly selling ou
Anon you answered you own question.

>> No.58922337

>>58919888
I honestly think she has the potential if she keeps her momentum with her music going as she has so far this year

>> No.58922592

>>58918036
A worldwide tour is waaay too much for her

>> No.58922604

>>58922337
Her music isn't good though. She has excellent energy but a mediocre voice

>> No.58922973

People underestimate holo popularity, if you don't fuck up things and promote it well then almost any holos can do that unless they have Ame's singing level
There's random who artists who does world tours all the time

>> No.58923441

rock bands play to empty shows and they do it because they like making music not numbers you fucking self-absorbed whore

>> No.58923546

>>58918036
maybe she should start with 1.

>> No.58923742

>>58919519
You forgot Suisei you retard.

>> No.58923903

I've been thinking for ages about the potential for a hololive concert in a large stadium filling up to 60k capacity. Assuming they use current tech with the flat wall and not true 3d holograms then 60k tickets dold of seated + general admission could be feasable. It would need to be in a location with a convention hall nearby. I work in one of the stadiums in australia and i've genuinely wondered if they could host it here. Sydney olympic park has the exhibition hall as well as multiple stadiums. It would be perfect. Though the fandom is do large and spread out over the world, would a single location be enough to bring in the crowds from all over the world? Not only that, but enough to fill 60k ticket sales? That's my biggest concern that a single international venue won't have enough power to sell out. I really wish it could though, because then i could plant the seed to my events aquisition team to bring it here so i can get free tickets lol. On that note, i'm hoping to catch holofes 5 next year assuming it's also in march. Gonna be going to nipland for my 30th. Wish me luck, bros!

>> No.58924005

>>58918036
It all depends on the size of the venue. Suisei's first sololive was at Toyosu Pit (~3000 capacity), and her second was at Tokyo Garden Theatre (~8000). My guess is Bae could consistently do 2k venues in English speaking countries.

>> No.58924056

>>58923742
I was only counting ENs retard, obviously any big JP could do it

>> No.58924166

>>58923441
>>58922973
Those acts don't need sophisticated technology though.

>> No.58924245

>>58924166
simulcast concerts in movie theatres is the real answer.

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>>58918036
Just pick small venues. Easy

>> No.58924374

>>58918036
The only thing Bae is lacking is a large enough discography. One more EP or album could change that.
A world tour for a vtuber is a very big ambition, both for performing and for logistics, even Mori hasn't managed it (yet) with UMG backing her.

>> No.58924394

Filling actual venues all around the world IS hard for the EN girls. It only works in JP because of how built up it is and that the fans are centrally located to the point that if you really wanted to see your Oshi preform, you can hop on a ling trainride to see her. Now compair that to needing to buy a plane ticket and get a hotel room just to see her and I'm sure you can understand why it's a big risk. The only reason the EN concert worked so well is because Cover eas smart enough to put it on the Sunday night after AnimeExpo ended just a 15 min drive away. It was a no-brainer to get a $20 uber if you were in the area from the con to see them

>> No.58924480

>>58924056
Oh, so sorry!
Have a good day Anon.

>> No.58924549

>>58924394
Yeah honestly I'd be lying if I said AX being held at the same time a short drive away wasn't the largest contributing factor to me actually attending connect the world

>> No.58924655

>>58918036
Wasnt the world tour a hypothetical? Anyways it's good to be humble, right now she needs to focus on her sololive dream and then assess where she can go from there depending on her success. She could very well make it since she's still a Hololive talent and has great stage performance ability

>> No.58924725

>>58923441
Go fuck yourself retard, she works for a company and could put her job in jeopardy if she doesn't sell out.

>> No.58924837

>>58924394
As an American, this in my biggest drawback to going to shows. Even getting into the closest major cities is a pain, but to try to go more than a state over becomes a pricey commitment.

>> No.58924911 [DELETED] 

>>58918036
This stupid bitch wants to be an idol without upholding idol culture. She needs to kill herself.

>> No.58924949

>>58923441
>Wanting your big performance you've potentially been practicing for months for with a huge company backing to be successful is numberfagging
The shit you read on this board

>> No.58924958

>>58918036
She's selling herself short, she is can definitely sell out a venue of 2k people and that will give her increased self confidence. For now she needs to make more music so she can pull off a full concert.

>> No.58925359

>>58924911
In what way? Bae is probably the most traditional jp-style idol in EN and she backs that up with plenty of idol reps

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>>58924480
what the fuck

>> No.58925563

>>58919519
You had me until you said IRyS lmao
I’m not tryna be a jerk it just did not go with the other 2 examples you listed at ALL
Maybe I’m OOTL but I didn’t think she had that much reach, esp for EOP? Mayb I’m wrong

>> No.58925766

>>58925359
That's a shitposter and you will get a shitposty answer

>> No.58925792

>>58925563
You're probably right honestly, I may just be overestimating her reach as the established v-singer

>> No.58926048

I don't think she'd be able to pull off a profitable world tour. Lots of tech to haul around, plus it's a Japanese company so many unnecessary managers, etc, the expenses add up quick. And the amount of cities she could actually fill a venue in isn't very large, nor are they remotely close together. I could see her selling out in Tokyo, LA, and New York. Then maybe in Chicago, Toronto, London, and Melbourne/Sydney. If hololive had any fans in Europe it would solve a lot of problems. Or maybe she could spend a year pandering to the Koreans and SEAs and do Tokyo, Seoul, Taipei, Bangkok, Jakarta, Australia.

>> No.58926241

>>58926048
She already has the Koreans in her pocket, she could do that one easy

>> No.58926588
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58926588

I think with proper spots Bae could do well in smaller venues.
If she did a tour of Australia, Indonesia, Singapore, Japan, South Korea, East Coast NA, my dick, West Coast NA, Canada and Brazil(?) add in some guest and I think she’d do fine

>> No.58926718

>>58926588
Wait a second, towards the end there...
There's no way she'd go to fucking Brazil

>> No.58926780

>>58919519
Aqua could too

>> No.58926872

>>58918036
Right now is too risky, she should try a couple of sololives first and improve her "idol" fame through them.

>> No.58926903

>>58925359
Don't worry, anon was talking about herself.

>> No.58926935

>>58918036
Mating Press.
While applying positive affirmations.

>> No.58927865

>>58924480
Most sane /vt/ conversation

>> No.58928083

>>58924655
Yes it's a disingenuous thread made to shit on rat like all log ones are. Bae was just laughing at chat bringing up the Id tour and how ridiculous that would be for her.

>> No.58928149

>>58919519
Yeah the IRyS addition is way off the mark like the other anon has said, maybe we could have had a different perspective if IRyStocrats actually supported their oshi's music.

>> No.58928240

>>58928083
You need to pay better attention to the stream if that's what you got out of her conversation

>> No.58928456

>>58918036
She would have a better chance if she used more the cute and medium voices instead of her deep "singing voice", she actually sounds nice in those and you can really hear the difference in her future star cover, when she sings the Mirai parts she sounds really good but when she goes to the Mutsuki it starts to sound off and if she goes deeper it just gets worse.

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58929259

I really can't stand her loud zoomer thing and the worst part is that she didn't have this problem in her previous life. Her model is also another huge debut, it's kinda cute but it's still really stupid and a huge turnoff. She's such a wasted talent man, what were they thinking, what is she thinking anyways?

>> No.58929734

>>58929259
Based 2021 time traveler

>> No.58931388

>>58928149
>maybe we could have had a different perspective if IRyStocrats actually supported their oshi's music.
Do they not?

>> No.58931678

>>58931388
She's my oshi and I listen to her karaokes all the time but her original music sucks

>> No.58931982

>>58919519
Kek, I think Marine and Suisei have more chances that any EN girl

>> No.58932370

>>58918036
Shes right theres no way the rrat can fill a dozen+ venues
>Connect the World instantly selling out within seconds
That was one concert for all of the talents and the first of its kind thus greatly anticipated.

>> No.58933803
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>Irys
Lel
Let just put things into perspective: Suisei haven't been in Budokan yet.
You're ain't a true big star with world potential until you can tackle Budokan. It's not just some overpriced, overhyped venue. It is the culmination of hard work, talent, but also the sheer amount of CLOUT required to have a successful concert with 12.000 audience.
Bae would be overjoyed if she could pull 2000-3000 audience. Most Idols can barely pull hundreds.

>> No.58936258

Why are Hoshiyomi like this?

>> No.58936282

>>58918036
Post bars naked vtuber rig pls thnx

>> No.58939803

>>58918036
She's right lol

>> No.58941990

>>58918036
No way Cover let Bae do a solo tour. A Holo tour then maybe.

>> No.58942205

>>58918036
It's not impostor syndrome, she just aint that gal. Give her two more years and then maybe she could do it
>her EP
whatever happened to it? any #s ?

>> No.58942493

>>58924837
This. When something is held in Japan it's only a couple hours train ride.
When connect the world was held in LA taking a flight to England would be shorter than flying across the country.

>> No.58942760

>>58925359
>traditional jp-style idol
>sleepover off-collabs with males
nice memory holing brats

>> No.58943026

>>58918036
They underestimate the power of the blue dorito and overestimate the standards of their fans.

>> No.58943199

>>58921833
How many people, especially westerners, want to fuck around with having to access stuff via Holo Earth?

>> No.58943505

>>58942493
We need to go back in time and kill whoever it was who decided that America should be travelled across through an intricate series of highways, routes, and interstates.

Was it Henry Ford? Can we kill him regardless?

>> No.58944695

>>58943505
There's nothing wrong with the high way systems, it's just the fact that in the late 1800's a bunch of autist went nuts building traintracks to no where in the north-east, which in turn turned normies off trains in the coming century.

>> No.58945286

>>58942205
The associated physical release sold stupidly well

>> No.58945667

>>58944695
Then it's those autists we should rend before they can do any damage. Gotcha.

>> No.58945864

>>58943199
holoearth isn't for you. they've done 0 work at translating it.

>> No.58945865

>>58942760
Yeah me

>> No.58946235

>>58942760
i didnt knew fauna and mumei were males

>> No.58946882

>>58942205
>>her EP
>whatever happened to it? any #s ?
Did better than Kiara's album

>> No.58949866

>>58942760
Your dreams sure are wild

>> No.58949990

>>58945864
It's 100% translated it's just the content inside it isn't. They could easily do an EN event.
All I'm saying is holoearth is for everyone and you need to watch the October show.

>> No.58951062

>>58918036
>impostor syndrome
sus

>> No.58954607

>>58943026
I think you're the one overestimating for this particular project here

>> No.58955037
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>>58918036
start with large anime cons that have large auditoriums
also they should sing covers of pop songs, not just their own songs

>> No.58957625

>>58924264
This.

>> No.58960818

>>58924264
That's not really the same

>> No.58961527

Miko spent years hosting handshaking events where no one bothered to show up, and it nearly crushed her soul.
Bae should be able to handle the embarrassment of a few concerts not selling out in minutes.

>> No.58964018

>>58918036
Who in the actual fuck would ever want this?
Glad she's got the common sense to have..."impostor syndrome" about it

>> No.58964043

>>58961527
I'd show up but only if she'd shake my dick instead of my hand. Has anyone else considered this?

>> No.58964249

>>58925563
>>58928149
When they book pokey little venues like the YouTube theatre in LA it'll sell out.

>>58919846
That venue didn't even have a capacity of 20,000. A lot of those Japs would have missed out.

I could have got tickets for that. I was window shopping to see what the prices were like but fuck going to LA. I'd rather go to Japan or anywhere else.

>> No.58964607

>>58918036
If she hold a tour in the US it might work ! But I doubt she can fill a venue anywhere else

>> No.58964757

>>58964607
she's got a pretty sizeable following in korea, so i wouldn't surprised if she sell out couple venues there.

>> No.58970814

>>58964018
Kek

>> No.58974183

>>58964018
Gigaretard

>> No.58975016

>>58924005
i agree and think that she is skipping a step. One thing is selling out connect the world with other ENs, a very different thing is doing that alone. While it's an ambitious goal, thinking of a world tour is way too early for her. Suisei could maybe pull that off but Bae is not in a similar place right now. She should first aim for 1 solo live similar to Suisei or Mori. Selling out a 3k venue is a good start and a test of actual interest. Best of luck to her.

>> No.58976288

>>58918036
She's right, she can't do that.
She might be able to fill a small venue in Japan or elsewhere, but it's not going to be filled with *just* her fans. The vast majority would be people that just want to watch any sort of holo concert by any holo if given the chance, so she'd have to fill that thing with guests in order to draw in more viewers.
She doesn't have that pull and star power some JP's and even Mori have to be able to pull it of just on her own.
The only way this would be feasible for someone like her who isn't one immediately associated in the fan consciousness with live concerts and music like Watame, Suisei, AZKi, Sora, Mori, Towa or even Okayu are is if she shares the stage with others.
What's she known for? Shrieking and dancing.
That's not nothing, but it's not enough. She'll have to do a 1000 more karaoke's in order to change this perception.

>> No.58977804

>>58975016
I have to wonder what the qualifications are for a talent to be able to put out their own sololive, is it entirely dependent on the girl's own budget?

>> No.58980414

>>58964249
>That venue didn't even have a capacity of 20,000
exactly

>> No.58980800

You wouldn't even have to travel to a place to do the performance right? Pre-recording and showing a performance in multiple venues isn't the same as doing a world tour.

>> No.58981176

>>58931388
Her music views are pretty mediocre

>> No.58981281

>>58943505
There's also the fact that America is just so fucking huge. By the time it takes to go from one end of America to the other, a Jap could circle the entirety of Japan 50 times over

>> No.58981316

>>58955037
>also they should sing covers of pop songs
Good luck dealing with America's bullshit copyright system

>> No.58981763

>>58955037
picrel is honestly the only way pomu can ever be popular again

>> No.58982274

>>58944695
Fingers black with crude oil typed this post

>> No.58983454

>>58918036
There's small venues she could play. Most cities have like 100 to 500 person venue. I'm sure she could fill those up.

>> No.58984342

Her voice hurts my ears and Australian accents are unappealing. She may be onto something with her doubts.

>> No.58984503

>>58977804
Unless they're signed to a label, and there's only 3.5 holos that are, yes.
Any of them could theoretically have a sololive but they'd have to pay out of pocket for it unless they could get a sponsor to help shoulder the burden. Bushiroad's the usual suspect. They're not likely to do that unless the holo is popular enough to be able to fill seats and make it worth their while. I don't know how much Cover chips in but they do for albums and original music so I'm sure they have a small amount for concerts.
I'd assume Cover would strongly discourage any holo to even try unless they thought they could pull it off and not be rendered completely destitute in the attempt, or just fucked up in other ways.

>> No.58984516

>>58984342
Based ear haver

>> No.58986017

>>58981176
I've always heard that this is just due to her being given shitty songs by management, is this true?

>> No.58986074

>>58986017
go check her orisongs and decide.

>> No.58988220

>>58984342
her accent is pure sexo, homosexual

>> No.58991958

>>58919519
I’d pay to see a world tour with exclusively Gura but she’s lost all drive to be active so I essentially could care less nor believe it would ever happen.

>> No.58992048

>>58943199
Probably most of them if that means that you don't have to make a long trip somewhere else like Japan

>> No.58992071

>>58918036
Pay live tickets prices to watch a pre-recorded video.

>> No.58992556

>>58986017
Due to the terms of her vsinger contract she has had zero to limited input on her music unlike the regular gen holos who can do what they like. That's the trade off: cover pays for her music, but she just has to sing what they give her. And it's only recently that she'd had the minimal say that she now has.
Even small things like grammar and spelling and shit she wasn't allowed to correct despite actually being able to speak English unlike the esl faggot that wrote her insipid anisong early stuff; it was all up to omegatroon or whoever the fuck it was who fancied themselves a producer despite being the dunning-kruger effect personified.

>> No.58995240

>>58991958
>could care less

>> No.58995628

>>58922973
People overestimate the popularity of niche hobbies. There are tons of artists/bands with millions of streams and followers that can't sell out a thousand person venue in NYC.

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>>58918036

>> No.59000672

>>58999824
baesed

>> No.59001568

>>58999824
This creature makes me uncomfortable

>> No.59001760

Bae tour 2024
Boston
NYC
Cleveland
Chicago
Minneapolis
Seattle
Portland
San Francisco
LA
San Diego
Phoenix
Houstan
Atlanta
Baltimore
Philadelphia

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I've been to a fuckton of concerts. Small bands doing international tours in small venues in front of 200 people. I think the problem here is that Vtubers require a specific setup that most small venues don't have. You can't just have a flat monitor in a smelly room with 100 dudes.

>> No.59002025

>>59001760
Do not let my rat go to fucking Chicago or Baltimore

>> No.59002081

>>59001760
Is this some brat BBC fetish or something?

>> No.59003335

>>59002081
>BBC out of nowhere
Got something about yourself to share with the rest of the class anon?

>> No.59003461

>>58982274
There's nothing wrong with trains, i'm just explainning why trains are less prevalent in the rest of the USA

>> No.59003479

>>59003335
Oh come on don't be disingenuous, 99% of those places are that way inclined.

>> No.59005816

>>59003479
USA really is worse than shithole..

>> No.59005906

>>59003479
That's most major cities in the US. That's all I based it on. I wasn't thinking of black dicks I'm sorry.

>> No.59011566

>>58918036
ogey

>> No.59012017

>>59005816
Calm down, Xi Jinping.

>> No.59020107

>>58918036
>How do we solve the girls' impostor syndrome issues in EN?
This is a recruiting problem, hire better girls

>> No.59021478

>>59020107
is normal in women,
there is only 2 types of girls : insecure or a bitch
at varying degrees, so what do you prefer?

>> No.59021943

>>58961527
How does vtubing handshaking events even work

>> No.59022084

>>58922024
>literally their first concert in the biggest U.S state
>somehow anons think this will translate into them selling out worldwide

>> No.59022652

>>59021943
People come and shake an unpaid interns hand with a vtuber on the screen
It's cringe AF
Not as cringe as anyone thinking Bae can do a worldwide concert tour, ofc.

>> No.59023169

>>59022652
>unpaid
Underpaid, you mean.

>> No.59023788

Maybe she should focus on actually being popular and entertaining first lmao.

>> No.59023822

>>58943505
Most people do not properly comprehend how big america is. If there were a bullet train that went straight from boston to LA with no stops and no other cities on its route, it would still take more than a day to get there. We do passenger travel by plane because nothing else is remotely viable, and the roads exist for light freight.

>> No.59024490

>>59023822
I wonder if it would boost the economy to set up stations in nowhere towns, if only as a means of getting people to acknowledge their existence and potentially fall for a tourist trap or two.

>> No.59027812

>>59024490
I just like trains

>> No.59028619

>>59027812
same bro

>> No.59028707

>>58918036
if any of them browse /here/ long enough that would crush anyone's dreams
this place is a toxic wasteland of angry virgins
and not knowing how many of your fans/members are /here/ is paranoia fuel

>> No.59029973

>>59028707
>this place is a toxic wasteland of angry virgins
Do you mean /here/ or /rrat/?

>> No.59030259

>>59029973
He means /vt/, it's full of shitesters

>> No.59031276

>>58951062
>sus
ඞ

>> No.59031699

>>59023822
Where's the hyperloop, Elon?

>> No.59031786

>>59028707
>we'll support you with our time and money if you don't collab with males
Oh shit so toxic kek

>> No.59031896

>>59031699
He wanted that to fail, to halt all high speed railway plans. He never intended to build the thing.
>At the time, it seemed that Musk had dished out the Hyperloop proposal just to make the public and legislators rethink the high-speed train. He didn’t actually intend to build the thing. It was more that he wanted to show people that more creative ideas were out there for things that might actually solve problems and push the state forward. With any luck, the high-speed rail would be canceled. Musk said as much to me [Ashlee Vance] during a series of e-mails and phone calls leading up to the announcement. “Down the road, I might fund or advise on a Hyperloop project, but right now I can’t take my eye off the ball at either SpaceX or Tesla,” he wrote.

>> No.59034354

>>58977804
Sololives are almost entirely self funded by the talent. Cover puts them in touch with potetnial sponosrs and venues and such but the actual negotiation and payment is up to the talent. It's only group shows that they fund

>> No.59035914

>>58943026
Do not underestimate their shit competition either

>> No.59036091

>>58933803
Suisei hasn't gotten Budokan yet because she's got no industry connections and is affiliated first and foremost with an outside entity.

>> No.59036738

>>58918036
>Connect the World
That's for the entire branch, Bae really would not be able to fill multiple venues on her own, she is not that popular.
Gura and Mori could.

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