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so WHY are they a new branch?
is it really because some of them are (ayame forgive me for even uttering the word) korean?

>> No.58910794

Only one is half Korean.
As for why they are a different branch, its branding and a focus on musical group activities.
They probably wouldn't be able to have a full human gen as gen 7 and people already found odd how much they pushed HoloX as a unit so I can't imagine an idol unit like Regloss would work as Genn7 either

>> No.58910892

no they wouldnt have chosen a gook in the first place if they hated gooks so much

probably the new branch was made to do (edgy) group musical things. the concept is different from the main jp branch that focuses on traditional idol things.

>> No.58910935

>>58910549
Ayame and her 100,000 imperialist followers would not react kindly to a Korean in the Japanese branch. She was kind enough to spare Ina as long as she swore to serve as her comfort woman, but her generosity has a limit. If cover ever decides to add a Korean branch I'm afraid she will be forced to declare all out war.

>> No.58910955

>>58910935
do you really think this is funny. its shitter than reddit memes.

>> No.58911021

I don't know if it's really a reason for a new branch, but I thought I saw someone say that La+ mentioned the group is more focused on a wider, "normie" audience.
Less so otaku-fueled "unfortunately idol culture is a thing", more so just entertainers

>> No.58911100

>>58910955
No I just hate my life. Japanese companies are actually racist though, somebody could be born and raised in Japan and speak fluent Japanese and still be treated like a foreigner because they're a halfu

>> No.58911177

>>58910549
Your late

>> No.58911340

>>58911100
then just watch amerimutt vtubers in amerimutt agencies. they are so anti raysis and anti nazi pro lgbtbbq and pro gooks i guess

>> No.58911643

>>58911100
Based desu

>> No.58911661

>>58911021
That is a very western viewpoint, idols in Japan can range from normie tier to niche stuff. If anything, I'd say Regloss is closer to traditional/normie idol stuff while Hololive became more edgy/alternative from gen 3 forward.

>> No.58911731

>>58911340
Yeah yeah its all fun and games until its Haato, Coco or Pikamee getting harassed. Retard.

>> No.58911940

They are produced as a group instead of individually self produced.
They'll probably get more group music dance performances once they get heir 3D

>> No.58911965

>Korean for JP audience and smoker(at least she admits it)
Yeah, cannot compromise main branch if shit goes south

>> No.58912052

>>58910549
What boggles my mind is
>music focused group
>they aren't actually good at singing
What is Cover's angle here? An underdog story?

>> No.58912087

>>58912052
Idol journey yeah

>> No.58912106

>>58912052
Probably. They mentioned they are just starting out with vocal lessons and such.

>> No.58912162

>>58910549
>Investors want growth
>COVER "expands" with their "new branch"
>Investors pleased
It's all corpo movements

>> No.58912227

>>58912052
>music focused group
Says who?

>> No.58912320

>>58912227
Literally Regloss themselves.
They're a music and dance performance group.

>> No.58912334

>>58910955
How would you know that, eh?

>> No.58912430

>>58910955
t. Korean

>> No.58912698

>>58911021
so far they're doing the same shit the rest of hololive did.
>>58912227
they debuted with a orisong, the trailer had a music club, they group collab in a club setting. don't be stupid.

>> No.58912900

>>58912227
Their entire kayfabe is that they are literally just a fucking idol group. They already have idol costumes and everything. How fucking thick are you

>> No.58912980

If they were billed as JP7 and had more coomer designs they'd probably have passed Advent already.

>> No.58913051

>>58912980
Yeah but then I wouldn't be watching them.
They're the first debuts I actually watched in years.

>> No.58913066

>>58910549
>muh music activities
Almost all holos nowadays debut with at least a cover in the next few days, they only did that, even Nerissa made more than them, Mori then mogged all of them together

>> No.58913085

>>58913066
None of them debuted as a music unit and with idol outfits.

>> No.58913114

>>58913051
You won't but tens of thousands of others would

>> No.58913182

>>58911100
You are not a part of an ethnic group just because you were born in their country. My newphew is half chink and half norwegian and I consider him nothing but a chink despite being born and raised in norway.

>> No.58913248

>>58913114
Yes and? I only speak for myself and I think they're a nice breath of fresh air.

>> No.58913254

>>58913182
>Born and raised in a country
>Speak the language
>Fully assimilated into the culture
I see no reason why this is a bad thing regardless of their heritage

>> No.58913285

>>58913248
So you don't watch the others since they're literally the same shit under a different name, at least cover strategy worked to attract some retards

>> No.58913352
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58913352

>>58910549
>Korean
Prepare to die gaijin

>> No.58913413

>>58913254
Didn't say I have animosity towards him or treat him differently simply stating I'll never consider him norwegian. Most of the world except for the US/Canada and other recent immigration nations are defined by ethnic groups and cultures so it is very apparent when someone stands out based on race (halfu).

>> No.58913428

>>58913285
I'm pretty sure cover isn't concerned with retaining it's audience, new gems are and absolutely should be focused on introducing new fans to the brand.

>> No.58913476

>>58911021
If they wanted the normie audience why i clude a butch lesbian a pop group? Doesn't seem very normie.

>> No.58913501

>>58913476
>LGBT isn't normie
Anon timetravelling from the 90s

>> No.58913502

>>58912052
Or you know, just plain old bad planning?

>> No.58913505

>>58913254
this man has never met a nonwhite in his life

>> No.58913535

>>58913505
Yeah I live in a 99% white state.

>> No.58913556

>>58913501
A butch lesbian in a jpop group is very much nor normie.

>> No.58913584

>>58910549
So they can associative with holostars, they needed to be a new group

>> No.58913621

>>58913556
Again anon, did your familiarity with JP culture stop a couple decades ago?

>> No.58913644

they are there to be jobbers against the homostars
>bububu it hasnt happened yet
Give it a couple of months until they want to do a holozontal thing again
>no it's music focused!
help with their music is their reward for jobbing against the homos

>> No.58913887

>>58913285
I only really watch my oshi for 3 years now.

>> No.58914016

>>58913413
At what point would his offsprings no longer be chinese enough for you to conaider them norwegian?
Ethnicity is also not a synonym for genetics. Culture plays a major factor. You can have different genotypes in the same ethnicity and the same genotype be part of different ethnicities.

>> No.58914115

>>58911340
Roru roru
Rumao

>> No.58914116

>>58914016
I suppose the cutoff is when the phenotype severely differs, and with how genetics work that is usually expressed in favor of the chinese in this case.

>> No.58914171

>>58913621
Do jpop groups have butch lesbians now?

>> No.58914456

>>58913505
I have

>> No.58914559

>>58914116
Isn't phenotype a very ambiguous criterium in that case?
Like say, you had a spanish norwegian, then it would be way less obviously visible, but they'd still only be a half norwegian.
And if he doesn't speak or think chinese then no native chinese person would consider him chinese either, so it wouldn't work to put them under the same label.
It's like with black americans, the only similarity they share with subsaharan africans is that they have dark skin but they are not the same ethnicity despite sharing heritage and no african considers them africans.

>> No.58914895

>>58914559
It is vague and ambiguous, and it isn't an exact definition which is why it's hard to explain at times (especially when phenotypes and ethnic groups differ within the same country (especially so in china)). In this case I am not arguing based on culture either but purely on phenotypes belonging to certain ethnic groups.

>And if he doesn't speak or think chinese then no native chinese person would consider him chinese either, so it wouldn't work to put them under the same label.
This is an issue for many kids or people with mixed cultural, ethnic and racial background. They do not feel they belong to either but is another issue entirely.

It's somewhat of an individual definition within the group's collective understanding where the cutoff for belonging to said group lies, but I think it is apparent for most people that a first generation mixed kid with slanted eyes, straight hair, brown eyes and a different skin complexuib is very different from white, blonde and fair eyed people. If he gets kids or not and they pass as norwegian I don't know.

And I assume it is much the same for the rest of the world.

>> No.58915714

>>58914895
In general, it's more about where you live than how you look. Like the anon said about Africans vs black American folks.

>> No.58915838
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58915838

>>58914171
Ever watch idolmaster? There's a girl there that's the 'butch lesbian' type as that anon put it, but she wants to go agianst her character and do cutesy shit and wear frilly dresses. I think her name was Mokoto or something. This was from a anime from like 2 decades ago, so the tomboy archetype has been around for a while now.

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>>58915838(me)
yep here she is
https://idolmaster.fandom.com/wiki/Makoto_Kikuchi

Similar to Ao but much cooler cause she dosent have that fucking ascot.

>> No.58916478

>>58910549
Did this shit delay JP7?

>> No.58916688

>>58915838
>>58916288
>Makoto was pissed because everyone think she's a butch lesbian so she become an Idol
>Producer kept putting her in masculine roles and advertisement because that what sells
This is why she's one of the Idols who won't fall for him. 765P is a fucking retard.
>>58916478
They ARE the JP7
The L in ReGloss is an inverted 7. A-Chan also said they're still part of Hololive even without blue dorito.

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>>58913085
Where are these "idol" outfits?

>> No.58917087

>>58916478
Girls, JP subdivision - >:(
Same girls, JP 7 - :D

>> No.58917156

>>58916957
https://hololive.hololivepro.com/special/9491/

>> No.58917448

I think they just didn't want to foce themselves into a situation where they have an exponentially growing resource hog.
Every new gen means another set of full idol outfit 3Ds, swimsuit 3Ds, normal 3Ds, 3D birthday concerts, timeslots in holofes, holosummer, holonewyears.
There's so much overhead involved with hiring a new gen.
So they just compact them into a unit. They only need their own unit idol outfit 3D, only need one or two slots in holofes to perform as a unit and only need one anniversary live etc.

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>>58917156
Nice image now where are their alternate avatars or 3D that have those costumes?
Also hey look did you know Hololive was a baseball league? here's an image with their uniforms so it must be real

>> No.58918065

>>58918004
If they debuted a new gen showing first the baseball uniforms, you would assume they are baseball related, no?

>> No.58918274

>>58918004
I'm not sure what you are even trying to argue? That they are not an idol unit despite all their advertising and pr statements and the members themselves stating that they are?

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>>58910549
>so WHY are they a new branch?
Dont ask questions

>> No.58919977

>>58918274
>Cover says they're an idol group focused on dancing and musical activities
>Press releases say they're an idol group focused on dancing and musical activities
>Talents say their an idol group and will be focusing on dancing and musical activities
Nah they're just regular chuubas

>> No.58921144

>>58910549
Because fans were being weird and that limited their potential growth either continuing to release the same slops to the old audience and alienating a new audience. The picture their report paints is that they have to change tactics or they can't release new talents. Many anons don't understand this basic logic and will just argue over which number is bigger instead of ever considering other factors like how much of the numbers a debut gets actually represent new customers. It's too tiresome to explain these sorts of things to stupid anons every day so just imagine what Cover must be feeling. Therefore, the only path forward is to develop new branding or appeal to a different group of potential customers.

The alternative is eventually no new gens and a series of lay-offs so they can replace under-performing talents.

>> No.58921434

>>58921144
>Lay offs
This is probably a violation of contract for most chuubas. If they do this chuubas won't go out in a big wave, but one by one as the company decides to not renew their contract

>> No.58921523

>>58921144
>potential growth
Even gen 5 was bigger than ReGROSS, and when gen 5 launched there isn't even EN, hololive now is way bigger than before yet they managed to fuck it up that much, their intention doesn't matter, what matter is if the fans want that, if they don't want then they flop, simple as that

>> No.58921585

>>58921434
it already began. vesper was a warning
>>58921144
if they were serious about a new direction they would be giving them more support.

>> No.58921667

>>58921434
Culling chuubas is a death sentence for Cover. Their entire income exists because people want to support girls they like and give them money. If it becomes apparent the company they are paying does not support the girls they'll stop buying things.

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58921703

>>58918685
It was funny seeing Lalpussy projecting that much over the new members, at least she soft retired so I don't have to see her very often

>> No.58921815

>>58921144
>new customers
If they want new customers they should make something different then, the only thing different that this new gen offers is that one of them is a smoker, besides that they're a normal holo, they don't specialize in anything that others holos don't

>> No.58921843

>>58911021
That's her headcanon, Anon, she was explicit about that. Her guesses are not better than any rrat from /here/

>> No.58921878

>>58921523
>fans don't want
None of their numbers are owed to their substance. It's all because of the obtrusive marketing.

>> No.58922210

>>58921144
>Because fans were being weird and that limited their potential growth
And you really think that fans won't be weird now with Regloss? For now they only did things HoloJP members already do. If tomorrow they introduce something that is not in the Holo friendly, they'll get the same backlash AND will still have the debuff of not being HoloJP.
If they wanted to do different things they should've shown it right away instead of being as vague as possible

>> No.58923165

>>58922210
Holos do singing and dancing but all on an individual basis. There is no fixed Holo idol unit gen. Do you not get the difference between those?
ReGloss is basically managed to be ride or die together. They have their own live stage, their own idol uniforms and get their own group performances pushed by their own group producer, which none of the others have.
The closest you have to a group is Nepolabo and they don't HAVE to do things together and they have wildly different aesthetics and fanbases.

>> No.58929786

>>58910892
>main jp branch
>traditional idol things
minecraft, horror games, and zatsu are idol things?

>> No.58929832

>>58923165
If you think Regloss members are idols, you know nothing about the idol culture.

>> No.58929925

>>58910549
it's literally just JP gen 7 with added marketing cope to say they aren't to try and generate hype. There's literally a 7 in the logo. DEV_IS is probably gonna go the way of INNK.

>> No.58929951

I like hajime because she sounds like a lisping baby.

>> No.58930916

>>58929951
>coping Miko
You can say Miko does it intentionally too but since the debut when she didn't did that very much you can still hear that even though it was less noticeable, meanwhile Hajime has nothing of that if you knew her before hololive

>> No.58931403

>>58913502
That is Cover’s MO

>> No.58931824

>>58915714
>An ethnicity or ethnic group is a grouping of people who identify with each other on the basis of perceived shared attributes that distinguish them from other groups.
In general, it's definitely more about what you look than where you live.

>> No.58931949

>>58918065
You would assume so. But then they debut using non-baseball outifts, and one of them flat out says that she isn't good at baseball and is new to this kind of thing.

>> No.58932068

>>58912052
Yeah that is what I think it is, it would not be the same journey where we cheer through the fuckups and celebrate milestones, if they were all trained pros ready to go.

>> No.58932595

>>58912087
I call it selling an unfinished product. Like a Bethesda game. People that can actually sing and dance would be surprising.

>> No.58932738

None of you niggas even speak or understand Japanese, what is the point of trying to discuss a Japanese speaking generation entirely based on assumptions and feelz? Go watch HoloEN or something.

>> No.58933255

>>58932738
>Non EOPs don't exist
>Live translations don't exist
>Translated clips don't exist
Retard

>> No.58933610

>>58912900
>They already have idol costumes and everything.
Well they better show it soon

>> No.58933645

>>58910549
male collabs once the ban is up

>> No.58933724

>>58932738
Several big holos have 20-30% of non-japanese viewers, if we add up it's possible that there's more "EOPs" watching holoJP than the whole holoEN branch

>> No.58933899

>>58933645
and their numbers will drop.

>> No.58934932

>>58932738
Speak for yourself.

>> No.58935887

>>58933255
If they exist they certainly are not here.

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