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To everyone who constantly shits on shiori
Want you to know shet set a record for most members in a stream for en sphere
With half the viewers

>> No.58720952

>>58720902
Lmao, Mousey had like 5000 subsidies 1 day
She is the OG of En unlike this whore

>> No.58721086

>>58720902
Runts are so fascinating, because it seems like the girls who get the least CCV and subs seem to also pull in the most dedicated members and superchat numbers. I think Bae is the only exception.

>> No.58721094

>>58720952
Sorry we don't count subathons fag

>> No.58721126

>>58720902
Let me know when Shiori or any of these other yuribaiting simps do Gura numbers.

>> No.58721150

>>58720952
Saviourfag buff, I kneel, Shiori needs to up her sick game, that dry cough isn't enough.

>> No.58721208
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>>58720952
>5000 subscribers in one day
All of Advent had days with way more new subscribers than that.

>> No.58721379

>>58720902
Really impressive I must say, does those 1444 member gifts are included in overall member count of the stream or they are separate? Cuz if they are then over 5k members in single stream is just wow

>> No.58721390

>>58720902
still not going to watch your boring grifter whore, fuck off

>> No.58721483

>>58720902
oh her membership opened? put that in the fucking thumbnail shiori.

>> No.58721578

>>58720902
Ok retard now post the rest of advent

>> No.58721594
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58721594

What's with this insanely weird astroturf that everyone on this board hates or downplays Shiori. Sometimes I feel like I'm too old for this board these days.

>> No.58721938

>>58721578
Well Fuwamoco got many more members in the same amount of time as Shiori, but split their membership stream into two parts. OP is eliminating the split.
This was first day Advent membership numbers:
Fuwamoco: 7057
Shiori: 5376
Bijou: 4881
Nerrisa: 4473
OP is also comparing Shiori $3 memberships with other Advent $5 ones.

>> No.58721976

>>58721594
Nijisisters/rejected 2views found an easy prey with some pl dirt, and the seaniggers took the hate at face value with nothing "artificial" about it and ran with it to get (you)s.

>> No.58722095

>>58721594
It's the usual Holo vs Holo thread because numberfags have nothing outside hololive to compete.

>> No.58722844

>>58721938
Fuwamoco is two people. While its impressive and I'm happy for them (bau bau), they still have to split that.

>> No.58723083

>>58722844
The ruffians will never accept this truth, can't wait for Shiori to mog them both in the monthly supa tally.

>> No.58723172

>>58721594
common masonic tactic to downplay something they're building up

>> No.58723377
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>>58721594
You know why.

>> No.58723439

>>58722095
I think lately there has been a bit more Holo JP vs Holo EN, especially after ReGloss debut, and a bit less Holo EN vs Holo EN than typical.
>>58722844
>they have to split money
I was talking about the amount of memberships for the channel.
>>58723083
>can't wait for Shiori to mog them both in the monthly supa tally.
I really don’t get the Shiori vs Fuwamoco numberfag thing. Why numberfag against her with Shiori? Even if you can win in donations per month, you would still lose in the area of live viewers, membership totals, and subscribers. Wouldn't Shirori vs Nerissa be easier or something?

>> No.58723712

She's definitely not a whore sucking money from gullible men.

>> No.58723949

>>58721594
It's because niji has fallen down to phase connect level no one can pit them against holo anymore with any consistency so now holo vs holo is the style of seething shitpost among the discord gift card crowd.

>> No.58724008

>>58720902
>delayed membership opening due to illness
Am I meant to be impressed by sympathy subs?

>> No.58724014

>>58722844
>Dumbfuck logic

>> No.58724074

>>58721594
You might be surprised to learn that throwing ineffectual hatred at a chuuba only serves to make her audience more entrenched and deluded of its own importance by defending her online.

>> No.58724092

>>58722844
This is still the saddest cope.

>> No.58724153

>>58722844
>they still have to split that.
Fuwawa controls all the money. Mococo gets a (small) allowance.

>> No.58724255

>>58723712
What do you mean, anon, she's definitely a Virtual Youtuber?

>> No.58724497

ruffians hate shiori you never see the other advent fanbases shitting on her

>> No.58724592

>>58723439
Jailbirds are a smaller and more laidback fan base. I suspect because they skew older than ruffians.

>> No.58724895

>>58724497
How would Fuwamoco fans hate her anymore than Bijou fans or other fanbases? I think the Holo infighting is mainly driven by numberfag related stuff, and not actually part of the general fanbase as a whole. In fact, half the problems here are probably driven by numberfagging or cheering on ones oshi, vs another girl. It probably creates anti as a result of the infighting.

>> No.58724918

>>58721938
damn that's in the same order as how much I prefer to subscribe
>fuwamoco: sub, member
>shiori: sub but I've only watched like 3 streams at most, zero interest in fujo shit
>bijou: not really for me but I like that she's nice
>nerissa: not for me but good covers
glad they all got a lot of members though

>> No.58725009

>>58724895
in every anti thread theres always one that mentions novelights specifically for some reason so i just assumed shoiri is generally hated by them

>> No.58725042

>>58724592
what are they, in their 50s?
ruffians are mostly 25-40 and most of /baubau/ is 30+

>> No.58725356

>>58721938
Shiori's membership is only 3$? Hers must be the cheapest currently among all EN's memberships. I wonder why?
(IIRC Ame had cheaper tier before, but no longer does. All EN except Shiori's lowest tiers cost 5 bucks now)

>> No.58725388

>>58725009
Well I can explain something to you from the number thread. Right after the Advent debut, Fuwamoco and Shiori were both at the top in Advent live viewers while both also had the biggest fanbases compared to the other two members. I think it lead to some competition and some back and forth shit. Even if they aren’t directly competing number-wise anymore, which I would argue they’re mostly not, some on both sides still think the troubles are caused by each other. I think once in a while it is, but probably more often it is not. Right now I think most of the Holo vs Holo hate is actually coming from JOP and ReGloss debut. That’s my opinion.

>> No.58725404

>>58721126
They already beat Guras hours streamed this year.

>> No.58725474
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>>58725356
>'shiori is a grifter whore'
>cheapest membership in EN

>> No.58725507

>>58722844
>Two people
Anon, dont enable mococo...

>> No.58725530

>>58720902
>female grifter targets sad gullible men
>it works
Am I supposed to be impressed? What Shiori does is ridiculously easy provided you're a woman and a sociopath. I'll continue shitting on her btw

>> No.58725613

>>58722844
>two people
anon didn't get the news...

>> No.58725617

>>58725530
>female grifter targets sad gullible men
You just described Vtubing you dumb faggot

>> No.58725731

>>58725617
>You just described Vtubing you dumb faggot
No, I described Shiori specifically. She's literally the only grifter in Holo EN.

>> No.58726128

>>58725404
I'm sure you have proof right? FYI, that is extremely unbelievable given Shiori took a 10 DAY BREAK in her first month. Improve yourself and your threadshitting.

>> No.58726295

>>58725474
>>cheapest membership in EN
>This post is misleading.
While Shiori's lowest tier is the cheapest in EN, that tier was basically made for gift subs as you only get emotes at that level. Her mengens are locked are behind the middle tier which is the same price as the rest of EN and then the "high tier" has other very common membership posts like polls locked behind that. So while your statement is true, its very misleading.

>> No.58726439

>>58722844
Mococo gets nothing...

>> No.58726729

>>58725731
Sure buddy, whatever makes you feel better about your oshi, she's totally in it for the friends she makes along the way, not the money at all.

>> No.58727725

Do note that none of the gifted memberships went through during Shiori's stream, and are likely being refunded by Youtube in a couple days. It'll probably take about a week before gifted memberships will work for her. The other Advent members ran into a similar issue, if I'm not mistaken.

>> No.58729310

>>58721594
The astroturfing is being done by the same people that are going to use it to shit all over her when she collabs with a male.
They're literally just trying to generate months worth of steam to make the yab bigger

>> No.58729392

>>58726729
If you want to claim that Shiori isn't the only grifter in EN then you have to explain how the other members of EN are grifting. But something tells me you can't do that.

>> No.58729445

>>58725617
usually people in hololive have other talents

>> No.58729540

>>58723377
Man, is this what /hlgg/ has come to? The only ticket OC is about hating the very people they claim to support? Blaming a boogeyman when the rot comes from within? Sad. And pathetic.

>> No.58729778
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>>58720902
>insane GFE
>numberfagging

>> No.58729819

>>58726128
Gura stream less than 40 hours this week.
If Fuwamoco streamed 1.25 hours a day they would beat her. They obviously streamed way more than that.

>> No.58730168

>>58726295
You can only gift 5$ memberships.

>> No.58730799

>>58729392
>Shiori's highest tier is 10$
>Nerissa's is 25$
Makes you think

>> No.58730887

>>58726295
Regular members, including gifted, get member streams and emotes. There is a cheap emote only tier for people that.just want emotes, and a higher tier with polls and extra audio content for those who want to weigh in on her content. Justify why giftniggers should be allowed to vote in polls or get extra content.

>> No.58730994

>>58730799
Nerissa isn't paywalling basic content. And you didn't explain what her grift is supposed to be.

>> No.58731078

>>58724014
It's absolutely true though? They might have shared expenses and such so they don't necessarily spend twice as much as a solo chuuba, but ultimately their individual salaries are still half that of an equivalent solo chuuba due to the twin channel gimmick.

>> No.58731083

>>58730887
Justify why Shiori is making novelites pay $10 per month to participate in polls.

>> No.58731130

>>58730994
>Basic content
>Polls and extra audio packs
Kek, why should giftfaggots get to vote in channel polls, shes not gating off streams

>> No.58731191

>>58731083
Because if your personally invested in the channel/chuuba you should get a greater say in the content versus a lazy poorfag who sat around in chat for ten hours waiting for a gifted. Simple as

>> No.58731250

>>58726295
Her most expensive membership is still well under most other girls'

>> No.58731262

>>58731130
Why should anyone have to pay $10 to gain access to something as basic as channel polls?

>> No.58731292

>>58721938
Nerissa cut hers short because she had two streams that day. Her total for both stream was 4600 normal and 800 gifted memberships.

>> No.58731322

>>58731262
Would you prefer she charge $25 for a single thank you post visible to every lower tier?

>> No.58731324

>>58731083
I think it is polls and audio diaries behind a $10 paywall. Why though? Well it caused a lot of people to buy it, which obviously was the intention behind it. To make people feel like they would be missing out by not buying the $10 option.

>> No.58731327

>>58721594
Tempisanji antis getting mad that the 2 months of them spamming she will collab with homos was for nothing

>> No.58731332

>>58731191
I said justify, Anon. Not make a flimsy excuse.

>> No.58731349

>>5873126
You act like 10$ a month is a crazy grift, ita a cup of Starbucks faggot. She's hardly milking them

>> No.58731401

>>58726295
Fuwamoco has a 25$ tier, Shiori doesnt

>> No.58731419

>>58724918
Shiori is not really a fujo though...

>> No.58731428

>>58731332
>Flimsy excuse
If you want access to membership polls and extra content you have to pay for it yourself, not get it gifted. Its normal for a lot of chuubas

>> No.58731433

>>58731322
Yes. Shiori is sinking to a level of exploitative grifting that literally no other member of EN has ever sunk to.

>> No.58731487

>>58731433
>Mori
Kek, lurk more newfriend

>> No.58731520

>>58731401
Is it paygating content?

>> No.58731570

>>58731401
So does Bijou and Nerissa
In fact other than Gura I can't find you a single hololive that only has memberships going to 10$

>> No.58731620

>>58731520
>paygating content
Fucking poorfag, you pay more, you get more, simple as. Fuck off you entitled bitch, lots of chuubas have similar monetization

>> No.58731640

>>58722844
Shiroir has to split hers with her "mod"

>> No.58731664

>>58731401
With no content behind it

>> No.58731686

>>58731620
It’s gonna get leaked anyway you stupid cuck

>> No.58731689

>>58720952
Phasefag hands typed this

>> No.58731719

>>58731401
You guys really shouldn’t make everything about Fuwamoco. For Fuwamoco, the $5 option is exactly the same as the $25 option. No benefit. The extra is just if you want to or not, and this option is available by other Holo EN streamers as well. I think to paywall content by putting it in higher tier, is something only Mori has also tried, but later abandoned. Fuwamoco has nothing to do with any of this.

>> No.58731800

>>58731719
>It's okay because you don't get anything extra for paying 5x more
Kek

>> No.58731820

>>58731570
Wait so you mean to tell me... /vt/ is lying? Woah that must surprise at least 1 person out there! Also Kiara only has 1 tier

>> No.58731922

>>58731433
Well, her highest tier is still objectively cheaper than everyone else's while providing specialty content not found in other tiers, meaning you get your money's worth if you pay more, which doesn't happen with most other holomem's. So no, she's not doing anything wrong, it's the bitches charging $25 that should be giving Tier 3 members monthly blowjob ASMRs who are in the wrong.

>> No.58731930

It's an utterly retarded thought that giving more content to members who pay more money is somehow a grift or a scam. Sounds like regular ass monetization.

>> No.58731990

>>58731800
>you’re saying it’s okay if you don’t get more stuff at higher tiers?
Yes, it’s okay. Which is why it is a preferred method for many Holo EN streamers. I think the idea is to prevent any jealously or infighting within members.

>> No.58731992 [DELETED] 

>>58721594
Troons/sisters/phasecucks/vtweeters

>> No.58732037

>>58721594
Troons/sisters/nijifags/homobeggars/phasecucks

>> No.58732059

Reminder that the phase whores have a $100 tier but you would never see them get called grifters, I sure wonder where the posters ITT are coming from?

>> No.58732081

>>58731990
>Jealousy or infighting
What a weak ass cope, especially since lots of other holos have similar monetizations.

>> No.58732152

>>58732059
I wouldn't even know what Phase Connect is if you fuckers wouldn't bitch about Phaseniggers

>> No.58732204

>>58732152
Maybe they shouldn't organize attacks on other companies on their discord

>> No.58732223

>>58732081
>lots of other holo lock content behind higher tiers
I’m pretty sure Holo EN is not doing that. Can you list them all for me? As for the jealously thing, I’m pretty sure that’s why the idea of higher tier content is avoided. Did you have a different reason for why it is avoided?

>> No.58732273

>>58732223
>Acting like Mori, Gura, Irys, Etc. Didn't all do this same thing
Kem

>> No.58732332

>>58720952
>Counting Amazon prime subs.

>> No.58732340

>>58732273
Only Mori as far as I know, but she abandoned it. Can you name the extra content from higher tier Gura membership? I’m not aware of any.

>> No.58732443

>>58732340
I know gura is the queen of broken promises, but she promised on multiple occasions to give Shark Side higher tier content

>> No.58732515

>>58732443
So she didn’t actually do it?

>> No.58732523

>>58720952
brown seamonkey hands wrote this post

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>itt: seething poorfags, thirdies, and phaseniggers
Kek, they really struggle for even the smallest yab

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>>58720952
Why do you hate yourselves anon?

>> No.58732611

>>58732515
Neither has shiori by that logic

>> No.58732714

>>58732611
The difference is she already committed to it. Look, if Novelites have no issue with it then it’s not an issue. I’m not saying it will be either.

>> No.58732726

>>58724497
That's not really true. Anytime the thread explodes about Shiori, it's usually filled with about 50 more IPs than normal.

>> No.58732828

>>58721938
>but split their membership stream into two parts. OP is eliminating the split.
What, no they didn't? It's one single video?

>> No.58733200

>>58721938
Pero no cuenta, si Shiori hubiese hecho split for whatever reason (como el internet mierda que le tocó ayer y aún así no la detuvo) habría hecho el doble fácilmente.

>> No.58733270

>>58732714
>it was real in my head

>> No.58733321

>>58732828
They raided into the other, back-to-back, because they couldn’t put an unarchived in the same stream.

>> No.58733398

>>58721150
Let her cook, I mean mold.

>> No.58733415

>>58721086
Bae is just boring. Shame since she's pure sex and the best dancer in EN.

>> No.58733426

>>58721086
Usually smaller numbers are a function of vtuber content that is more niche, so you turn away lots of normalfags. The remainder feel like they belong with like-minded people and are inclined to support more heavily due to the feeling of a stronger connection to the community. So volume is low, but magnitude is high.
Whereas big number vtubers are generally more appealing to a larger demographic due to producing more 'generic' content, casting a wide net, and rely more on a lot of people donating smaller amounts. Volume is high, magnitude is low.

>> No.58733690

>>58720902
of course a shiori fan posts this shit.

>> No.58733719

>>58733690
>no new ip

>> No.58733884

>>58721379
They are separate. It counts transactions.

>> No.58733909

>>58721938
So FuwaMoco should be getting 35k a month before cuts so maybe 12k a month before taxes?

>> No.58734017

>>58733321
Oh shit I forgot about the unarchived, nevermind

>> No.58734110

>>58733909
Just so you know, I stopped counting Fuwamoco memberships at around 10.5k members. I assume they have 11k members now.

>> No.58734257

>>58731719
Not going to weigh in on the ethics of separate content for higher tiers in general, but Mori would make her Tier 3 content available to lower tiers after 2 weeks when she used to do that, so it’s not a one-to-one comparison.

>> No.58734820

>>58724497
No we hate that one novelite schizo from numbers who keeps raiding our board. Ruffians like shiori now. She's nice to the dogs

>> No.58734976

>>58720902
I kind of like the idea of a tier just for a green name and emotes to suck up the gift membership but a higher tier for actual self paying members to get exclusive content... that said my Oshi doesn't do members stuff so really the hell does it matter....

>> No.58735216

>>58725404
Not a hard task to pull off.

>> No.58735236
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>>58721594
Advent is very successful and stopped the growth of smaller EN corps as a lot of people who dropped HoloEN during Omega and homoshit era started coming back. Also NijiEN is falling apart and Luxiem sisters are seething at everything.

>> No.58735289

>>58721379
they are literally imaginary numbers and will be refunded.

>> No.58735395

>>58735289
I never understood sub gifts, especially on a stream where members stuff just started. There's no archive to go look at and decide if you want to convert to a real sub. And the streamer gets less of the cut I would think.

>> No.58735588

>>58735395
It gives streamers more money than superchatting the same $. And some people will stay subbed after free trial.

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>>58731570
Mumei... is forgotten...

>> No.58736688

>>58721594
She's had some yabs.

>> No.58736716

>>58735588
No it doesnt

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>>58720902
Just to add some numberfag fun.
Shiori had 968 members go for T3 and 780 members go for T1.
T1s are worth 3/5ths of a Standard Member, and T3s are worth 2x a Standard Member.
If we run calcs on that, then the T1s are worth 468 T2s, and the T3s are worth 1,936 T2s
In total this makes 6032 T2 members including gifted, or 30,160 dollars for this month.
The other way to calc it is
>5376 total
>968 x 10 = 9680
>780 x 3 = 2340
>3628 x 5 = 18140
>30160 total
Enjoy the numbers.

>> No.58737866

>>58720902
Newfags have never heard of Gawr Gura

>> No.58738026

>>58737672
>30k a month
>10k(ish) a month after YouTube and Covers cut
>120k a year
Not bad, though I've heard chuubas get FUCKED on taxes, like 70-80k take home?you made it Shiorin

>> No.58738922

>>58734110
Nearly 12k but a good percentage of them are gifted. They’ll probably float around 8k after a couple months similar to early Kronii

>> No.58739255

>>58738026
You’re assuming the gifted will stay the same and you’re also forgetting this is only day 1

>> No.58739364

>>58720902
can't wait for the global cope once she collabs with tempiss

>> No.58739468

>>58731640
He does it for free, though?

>> No.58740112

>>58739364
Any week now, right?

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>>58739364
>>58740112
>Makes joke about le male collab
>Says she'd rather collab with an AI robot male voice and make it voice act her genderbend art.

>> No.58740815

>>58720952
>subsidies

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