/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Shiori is locking members content behind $10 per month
Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
This used up bitch is milking her novelists

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
She isn’t beating the grifter allegations

[Anonymous No.]

dont worry shes worth it because...because...uhhhhhhhhh
BOOBS

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
Pay up if you want it so bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
Dont see anything wrong with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>iirc tokino sora has low membership all of the holo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
i dont care because im not membering anyway

[Anonymous No.]

Vesper also had a 10 dollar tier, what's with 'scholarly' vtubers and charging people too much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
>Shiori is doing a thing multiple other Hololive members do
What will she think of next

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
BASED
FUCK FUCKING GIFTED FAGGOTS
ALL THE GIRLS SHOULD DO THIS

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683764
Should increase the price of the second tier by a $1 to prevent it being gifted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
She has 3/5/10?
I thought 5/10/25 was the industry norm...

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683750
huh? this faggot had a 99$ tier
this cunt was just a grifter

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
The emote-only tier 1 is based.
For tier 3, i will only have a problem with it if she does streams for members above the $5 tier. Which seems to not be the case.

[Anonymous No.]

>Tell me how you're a newfag without telling me you're a newfag.

[Anonymous No.]

The standard 4.99 tier has membership streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683931
She's literally the only EN girl doing tiered content for memberships right now

[Anonymous No.]

Locking polls behind the third tier is scummy tbf

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
Pirate it, just as with every membership content of 0 worth tubers.
Until she starts churning out hentai doujins of high quality or 3d models that are stuck in the JP market, the skull flag will be there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
You'd have to be extremely invested in her to want that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683843
2/5/8~10 is industry norm.
5/10/20+ is homotax for fujos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683995
It's ok anon, lot's of people only just discovered Hololive has a Japanese branch too you aren't too behind

[Anonymous No.]

>poorfagseething ITT
ALL the girls should have a trash tier for emotes and the rest be locked above
fuck gifts
and fuck gifted

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
Other holomems do this

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683995
It's been that way for every member. 5.99 is the regular member while 2.99 is Gifted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
>T2 gives you the same as every other hololive member
Who cares

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684161
Not in EN, even Mori got bullied into changing it

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
People on here told me the reason she joined hololive is so she would earn a quick buck and then dip. This is only further increasing the odds of it lol.

[Anonymous No.]

sounds familiar

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
Yes, this is the same tier as before she joined Holo in her patreon. Why is anyone surprised?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684001
It is a bit weird to lock polls of all things up there. $10 to have the opportunity of having some semblance of your voice being 'heard'. The diaries make sense, I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684174
He means the tiered content
You'll miss out on content if you're not paying 2x more than the other girls' membership

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684212
oh my god YOU FUCKING MELON, mori did not fulfill her t3 promises therefore she drop the thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
Unless she is masturbating for those members, who the fuck would pay it

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
Don't they all do that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684369
No, only her in EN is putting content behind a more expensive tier

[Anonymous No.]

The polls is a weird one, but member streams are the same tier as every other EN girl I don't see the problem if you were gunna buy her shit anyway. A once a month audio thing is obviously just for the bigger simps anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
The optics is bad for now, but I hope other girls can follow or cover can make this a must. Gifted people should only have access to emotes anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683995
Ame did that too back when i was a member

[Anonymous No.]

And you called all the other girls greedy. I'm pretty sure even Mori stop doing this some years before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
>asian
You should have seen this coming.

[Anonymous No.]

She was a serial male collaber who hates gfe and idol culture. You were warned she only joined for money. You didn't listen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684457
>He doesn't watch JP

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
If you want members streams it's basically the same price as everyone else, which is the most important content for most people.
Seems fine to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684513
She's in EN not JP
She's now the only EN girl doing this

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684419
No you retard. Others have 5 bucks as lowest tier while she has it as second. What she did was adding CHEAPER tier than other holos, for people who don't care about member posts but want to use emotes.

[Anonymous No.]

>everyone in the thread has to attack in EN* to complain about it

[Anonymous No.]

Speaking of membership prices does Festival still retains the title of the most expensive membership in JP?

[Anonymous No.]

>Membership streams still 4.99
>The most important part is the same price as the rest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684592
Read again, monkey
She's locking diaries behind the most expensive tier while the other girls have everything for half of the price

[Anonymous No.]

I'm staring at this topic and really not understanding what the issue is.
Seems pretty reasonable since even the most expensive tier is pretty cheap at 10 bucks a month.
Or are you guys this poor?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
Moving it to 10 seems like a bit of cashgrab instead of just moving it a dollar up to lock out gifted subhumans who should commit ritualistic mass suicide, but on the whole this is based. I don't watch hololive but my 3view oshi's chat is perpetually 95% green because of faggots doing gifts, and it really just kind of defeats the purpose of member only streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
>grifter does grifter thing
I'm shocked

[Anonymous No.]

I remember when mori had a bunch of tiered content but i thought pretty much everybody got rid of that

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684346
mori bit off more than she could chew making so much shit behind all the tiers. Her early days were the most cringe learning to stream in front of everyone days. Anyone remember her constantly going TEE HEE TEE HEE?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684680
She's effectively the only EN locking content behind multiple tiers
With the other girls if you pay $5 you get everything
With Shiori you have to pony up $10 to get everything

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684663
Oh boo hoo. Majority of members content is 5 bucks a month like everybody else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684579
SO? not my fault you are a poorfag. JP has been doing that for years, EN doesn't do it because they don't know how to make money and are autistic

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
>>58683932

somethings happened again? niji? idol? phase? etc?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684758
Keklite just accept your oshi is a greedy jew
Literally the only EN doing this

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684780
kiara did a me me me so kfp are deflecting

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684493
Don't talk about Ame that way you shitter

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684817
greedy jew who offers 3 bucks tier unlike other holos

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684749
Ok I understand now, thats pretty shitty
Something should call her out and tell her she's the only EN one doing this

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684749
Oh. This is the first time I sub to someone so I didn't know. And are the others extra contents comparable to what she's doing for the 10 dollars tier?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684780
Why are people freaking out about the emotes tier? Other girls have that too lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684902
With the 3 bucks tier you don't get streams retard, only emotes
Its literally a bait for poorfags

[Anonymous No.]

>Only EN doing This try to pick nijiEN perks

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684978
People are freaking out about the T3 tier content that the other EN girls don't have

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683405
There are several HoloEN members that have $25 membership tiers. Having the max tier at $10 isn't that high and unless you need Shiori audio diaries there isn't much of a difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684902
10 bucks tier is basically an extra voice pack for lower price. Other girls outright don't offer those. Members posts and members streams are in 5 bucks tier like every other holo. 3 bucks tier isfor poorfags who want emotes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684897
>Shiori is offering the most expensive member tier in Holo EN?
>you're calling it greedy?
>just because she's asking for more money than anyone else?
>how is that greedy?
Kek. Is that you, Shiori?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685070
We literally have dozens of retards in this very thread going "DUDE IF YOU BUY THE LOWEST TIER YOU ONLY GET EMOTES WTFFFF JEW JEW JEW" even though dozens of other Holos have done that before.

[Anonymous No.]

Only nijiniggers would bitch about this

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684897
Yeah it's so shitty that she offers something special for $10 that other girls will not provide period no matter how much you spend. Horrifying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684988
I see reading comprehension is not your forte. Maybe you should subscribe to Shiori and learn to read.

With others I meant "other ENs" you pathetic mongoloid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685092
probably low effort voice pack

[Anonymous No.]

I want her to move the polls down to the regular $5 tier. The audio diaries can stay in the higher tier but the polls gotta go to the masses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
greedy whore

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that Mori literally got bullied out of tiered content by deadbeats

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
Doesn't suprise me. Spends hours a day milking her whales in Pre chat. It was so obvious that she would do something like that and the worst thing is simps will easily pay double the price. Why not? She will outearn Fuwamoco in 1 or 2 months. She will have the least subs, least views but will easily earn the most money. Such a scummy thot.

[Anonymous No.]

poorfags seething lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685247
she should make a 20 dollar tier just for voting

[Anonymous No.]

Why is her second tier spelled wrong? It should be 'Bookwyrm' not Bookwrym'. I wasn't gonna shitpost til I saw that bullshit.
Just do it the way Kiara and Gura do it. They do it right. Five bucks for the goods, sharkside if you have a hole in your pocket.
Also I will say unless you catch them live all the time and chat, 3 bucks for emotes is bullshit so far as value goes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
meh. If I was a streamer I'd prefer locking some shit behind a not gifted tier. charityfags shouldn't cry about deserving everything

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685232
Yeah. Cheaper than voice pack, possibly lower quality. Would make sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
Tempiss has been doing the same and no one bats an eye

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685076
>There are several HoloEN members that have $25 membership tiers
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
>10$ for polls and audio diaries
Lol catalogue days are upset about this? Seems entirely fair, she's not gating off any streams to T3

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685323
Gifts are the $5 tier. Gifted memberships get you access to streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685323
FuwaMoco are already suffering because of gifters, two of their membership posts were leaked. That said, gifted memberships apparently go for 5 bucks tier even if 3 bucks tier exists so gifters will still have access to Shiori's membership posts and streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>not realizing 3$ is the real jew tactic
Entice people by low cost, drive out the competition.
Shiori is smart. As expected of a scholar.
The 10$ is the red herring and a distraction.

[Anonymous No.]

No

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685295
It's spelled wrong on purpose as a joke lol
>>58685483
3$ is only for emotes, no streams.

[Anonymous No.]

The knights are here to protect Shiori's integrity
SHE'S NOT GREEDY
STOP CALLING HER A JEW

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685256
lmao, you are talking out of your ass. Scroll up or do your reps to really know why mori dropped t3

[Anonymous No.]

Not sure whats notable about this the three girls I have membership for have 5/15/25 tiers (Ina/IRyS/Fauna) and Ina has a $3 baby tier.

[Anonymous No.]

>I pay $25 a month to Sara Nagare
Someone help me

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685180
nijiEN streamers usually have different tiers with extra content

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685483
>The 10$ is the red herring and a distraction.
No, $10 is the goal. $3 is the impulse purchase that funnels you towards $5(just two dollarydoos more!) which funnels you towards $10(just five dillarydoos more!). Shiori is very sly, I'll give her that, but she's a complete fucking scumbag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685649
The problem is not the extra tiers
Its LOCKING CONTENT in the extra tiers
No one does that currently

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
thanks for the money dummies

[Anonymous No.]

>FYI gift memberships aren't open yet, they aren't being assigned and will be refunded if none are assigned
Lmao is this true? I don't see anyone receiving the gifts being given out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684768
You're not wrong, but you're being dishonest. You make it sound as if it's normal in JP, when in reality you can count the number of JP who do this with one hand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685649
nooo Ina can't have a $3 emote only tier only Shiori does this!

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685715
happened to the dogs, so I guess yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685546
>>58685700
>3$ is only for emotes, no streams.
Yeah, and it is still a badge of honor compared to greyfags. Like I said, don't hate her for doing this. Hate the culture for enabling this. The entire culture of VTubing boomed with livestream and chat interaction.
Guess who among Advents who interact with chat the most? Fuwamoco might master the hololive meta, but Shiori master the streaming meta.
Sasuga old hag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685721
and I can count the number of EN who do this with 1 finger. So what's your point again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
>members poll and audio diaries
Who cares? Streams are the only mengen content that matters. Mori got hate for gating them behind upper tiers. Stop misrepresenting what honest antis were shitting on pink woman for back in the day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685835
My point is you worded your post in a deceptive manner, I'm not the anon you were arguing with btw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
>3 dollars aka Free.99 in current year for emotes
>T2 is the normal tier with standard perks
also the gifted tier btw
>T3 costs more so you get more side content.
and the polls won't get nuked by tourists so she'll actually be able to use them.

[Anonymous No.]

>Catalogniggers bitching over 10$ a month
This board is really full of thirdies huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685715
It took almost a week for FWMC and Biboo.

[Anonymous No.]

>EOPs being retarded about membership tiering again
its fucking tiresome, are you guys poor or what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685444
member streams are fine but things like membership posts should be locked outside of gifted tier even if it's by $1 more. This shit isn't twitch. If you want access to the pure unfiltered menhera you need to pay or else shit will get leaked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685822
She is mastering the lowest sub count meta. She’s just milking her fan base KEK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684237
I might be misremembering, but I think Zaion got in trouble because she didn't double triple check with management before implementing memberships outside of the standard tiers. One of the red flags that her relationship with management was turning for the worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685978
>>58686037
Nah, white niggers still mad about her for whatever reason.
Shiori did the same thing as many other Hololive members (disregard the region) proving she done her reps and this is somehow a bad thing.
>pic related
>Ended up not collabing much

[Anonymous No.]

Are we time looping again? Remember the Mori anti threads over her $25 membership tier?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685978
Really, who the fuck actually thinks this sort of pricing is predatory? Her highest tier same as Guras except the T3 actually gets some tangible benefits lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685336
Who?
Holoboard, nobody cares about your indies

[Anonymous No.]

$3 one is fine, less than what you would get with a random gift tho so people would probably just hope for a gift instead of buying it. The $10 tier is dumb but if she doesnt get shit for it and people dont complain then I dont give a shit, I'm not her fan. I would be bothered if any of the streamers locked things like polls behind $10 because I cant afford that, just the $5 ones.

[Anonymous No.]

fucking based. good job Shiori. i think i will sub now. fuck those gifted/gifting fucks. take notes rest of EN.
for someone that i didn't have an opinion of early, she is really starting to win me over.

[Anonymous No.]

4 confirmed botfriends by her early 20s
The loosiest pussy in EN
https://files.catbox.moe/840hcp.mp4

[Anonymous No.]

remember not to argue with novelites
they are mentally ill

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
>giftedniggers being treated like third class citizens
Holy fucking based. This shit should be the standard. Gifts are and will always be a fucking mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686310
>Bae
This always makes me laugh

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686310
I love roast beef

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686310
>bae
>ina
he doesn't know, he actually doesn't know hahahahahaah

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685649
Uhhh OP? What do we do now? Spam more threads and hope this guy doesnt BTFO us there too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686332
Careful they got novelites jannies and you will get a vacation if you say the wrong words

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686223
>10$ dumb
Then people just shouldn't pay for it, it's not like it's a lot of extra content. Some free voice packs and exclusive polls, wow.
For some people that's worth an extra 5 a month though, and, it's hardly predatory or bad.

[Anonymous No.]

Piracy will solve this

[Anonymous No.]

Based. Get paid for your work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686310
The used goods gallery is legitimately the best roster

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686448
yeah, its also dumb because it will cause tribalfaggotry within her own members which isnt good for a community

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685649
this is not about a lower tier but content lock behind the third tier you autist

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686470
Only girls who had boyfriends know how to give the girlfriend experience after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684115
Rissa...Biboo...FWMC...

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
Pay up Novelcucks lmao!

Your oshi likes NTR and "inclusive" ESG trash btw

[Anonymous No.]

>gifteds used to get shit on by anons on the board
>a holo implements a way to gatekeep them
>anons seethe
HUH? Why the 180? Are you guys hypocrites?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
people gonna pay up so it doesn't matter

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686683
>Are you guys hypocrites?
>It's bad when (this tuber I hate) do it
Yes. Extremely so.

[Anonymous No.]

Didnt vesper have a $100 tier? Interesting how the homobeggars never called him a grifter

[Anonymous No.]

tempus collab soon

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685391
The rest of advent has has $10 and 25$ options as well. The gripe being made here is that for the other girls those are completely optional and provide nothing besides a title change, whereas Shiori is locking some (very minor) content behind $10. Big fucking whoop.

[Anonymous No.]

theres so many red flags i still dont understand how she gets goslings. i understand people finding her entertaining, since she can be, but actually falling for the grift? come on man

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686780
homobeggars never looked at the males anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
2.99 gets you emotes
4.99 gets you member streams
9.99 gets you polls and audio diaries

Consistency with polls and audio diaries will determine how many will pick it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686780
>>58686844
More like
>Homobeggars don't pay

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686833
Lonely men are super easy to manipulate, what is hard to understand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686683
based, a few months ago people were like death to gifteds, I wish my oshi do something to gatekeep this, I wish gifted memberships are removed. Seems like the retards seething are probably freefags

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
$10 Indonesian?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686833
Lol seethe, she's my princess

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686882
Considering there are leaked posts from there, yes they do pay

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686833
Sure thing sis!

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686934
The fujosisters paid for it.
Granted, women also more likely to homobeg, so I am so wrong on this.

[Anonymous No.]

Leaked future Shiori audios

https://www.literotica.com/stories/memberpage.php?uid=5425313&page=submissions

[Anonymous No.]

Youtube should change gifted memberships to the lowest tier instead of $5 minimum tier, I doubt she would have locked that shit behind $10 if that was the case

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686833
mentally ill people are easy to manipulate

[Anonymous No.]

>>58687067
Yeah, like every VTubers and their fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
dont tell him the homos had $100 a month tiers

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686833
Consider Mikeneko still has people who unironically believe she loves them. Romantically.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686833
She's my princess and I'm her loyal knight
T3 + I send SCs every stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>58687037
Even if she did it the same exact way regardless it's fine, her monetization is perfectly reasonable and it's entirely fine to give higher tier members minor extra content. Other chuubas do it all the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>58687196
i can actually understand mikenekos fans because theres probably a feeling of sunk cost so they cant help but find ways to cope and to forgive her. shiori is still pretty new though and is showing danger signs right away so i dont get it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686833
Ask yourself why people still vote for grifting politicians.

[Anonymous No.]

RED FLAG RED FLAG RED FLAG!
Homo collabs coming after she suckers some paypigs in for the highest tiers.

[Anonymous No.]

OREO WOMAN THREAD ON THE CATALOG!

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
Her manager must really love bagels and lox.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58687223
show us

[Anonymous No.]

>>58687410
>>58687352
Two more weeks sisters, im sure these "warning signs" are entirely real and not in your head

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
Does anyone besides gen 0 and 1 still have tiered memberships? I don't even think many of them use it anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

She's just like Mori in her year and a half or so. She locked content behind tier 3 membership long before gifted memberships were a thing. None of the other girls in Myth or Council did that. If you want to pay that, more power to you. Just remember who Shiori is emulating.

[Anonymous No.]

So she's offering extra content to members who opt for a more expensive tier? Opposed to other girls who have more expensive tiers strictly for milking? Why is this offensive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685247
If you want to have your voice heard, then pay up. Obviously Shiori knows most people don’t lock voting behind tier 3, but she did it anyway. That means she obviously doesn’t want you to vote on future streams unless you pay more money. Figure out what you want to do next because she’s not going to change that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686816
Few of the Myth Girls as well, Council I believe too. It's nothing new and it's only faggots who weren't even going to member complaining anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686833
>GFE
>Rushia 2.0

[Anonymous No.]

>>58687608
Because this shows she cares about people who give her more money more than the people who give her less money. At least thats their logic. In my opinion this will just cause her members to attack each other because they view themselves superior to the other members.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58687608
The schizo logic goes
>by LOCKING CONTENT behind a higher tear she is EMOTIONALLY MANIPULATING her fans into buying it due to fomo
Yeah then my local restaurant is milking making steak more expensive than chicken is predatory too kek. She puts more work into extra rewards so it costs more, seethe thirdies, they'll get leaked by fags anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>58687759
>she cares about people who give her more money more than the people who give her less money.

Shouldn't you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58687608
Either they’re nijisisters or they hate Shiori and think everything she does is bad. It’s exactly like Mori, who went from an autistic dumbass whose social ungrace gets her into trouble to some sort of daemon spawn who emits evil into the world by her mere existence.

[Anonymous No.]

>noooo i deserve free shit!!11
holy kek you faggots are pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

>>58687868
If you want to cause a schism between your members, sure go right ahead, because you are worth nothing unless you are paying out maximum, you might as well not member since you are subhuman $5 member.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
Actual snake oil salesman. Imagine only caring about your fans for as much as they pay you. This is an outrage. Anyone who's still subscribed to this grifter should be fucking ashamed of themselves. Doubly true if you actually, unironically paid to be called a Novelite. Imagine paying for a subscription and literally getting NOTHING. Not even emotes. Page is tier TWO. TWO. Tha'ts not right.
GRADUATE SHIORI

[Anonymous No.]

>>58687759
>In my opinion this will just cause her members to attack each other because they view themselves superior to the other members.
This is honestly my only gripe with it. If you pay extra money for no extra content, it's essentially just a scheduled superchat, but if you get exclusive content you'll inevitably see elitists types thinking they're superior fans for having a higher tier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58687437
mentally ill novelite in the thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>58688035
>Paying MAXIMUM
it's ten dollars fag lol, it's hardly an issue

[Anonymous No.]

>>58687759
I’m sorry, but if you really want the tier 3 benefits that badly, then just pay for it. It’s not that expensive ffs. The idea is “can you spare five dollars for this?” It is impossible for the answer to be no if you really like her.
If you’re truly that poor that the answer really is no, then I’m sorry, but you don’t matter. That is so rare among the audience she is targeting (westerners) that it doesn’t matter if you fall through the cracks.
Shiori doesn’t want people with gifted memberships to vote on future content. Simple as that.

[Anonymous No.]

so did all you fags vote for Bernie or something

[Anonymous No.]

shiori loves me you guys
she really does, trust me, she said my name in chat once after I donated $50

[Anonymous No.]

>>58688134
Based, gifties shouldn't get a say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58688134
well the $10 tier get to decide whats best for the $5 members with the exclusive polls

[Anonymous No.]

>>58687917
>some sort of daemon spawn who emits evil into the world by her mere existence

[Anonymous No.]

So from what I gathered in this thread, people are poor and don't financially support their favorites themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685076
>>58686816
>>58687754
They have them, but they don't provide any content above $5. It's just there if you want to support them more. Gating content above the usual $5 is cringe and right now Shiori is the only one doing it in EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58688291
>Only EN
You have to specify because it's entirely normal in other branches kek, why should EN follow different standards when it's by far the least successful?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58688262
Yup, they just sit in chat waiting to get gifted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58688134
Ok cuck. Keep white knighting.
Maybe one day your goddess will aknowledge your shallow existence... jk you are worthless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58688291
Ame does previews at higher tiers. Mori paywalls wallpapers. I've heard Irys does something for higher tiers too.

[Anonymous No.]

POOR /VT/ UNICORN

[Anonymous No.]

Who cares? Just don't pay for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58688556
>T-that doesn't count! T-they stopped doing it consistently!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>58688262
I support my oshi, but due to modern day finances, I cant afford more than the base membership and birthday merch, thats it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58688556
Not above the $5 tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>58688262
i superchat all the time
but if my oshi locked content behind tier2 I would question it

[Anonymous No.]

>>58688108

[Anonymous No.]

>>58688724
Yes, above $5 tier. What the fuck do you think "upper tiers" even means?

[Anonymous No.]

>ITT : poorfags seething

[Anonymous No.]

I wish the 5 dollar tier was emotes only, so gifted members only get to spam emotes

[Anonymous No.]

>>58688897
cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>58688897
shiori loves you bro for real its 100% real

[Anonymous No.]

Daily reminder that Kiara is the only en member who doesn't have multiple membership tiers. Most of the JP members don't either. All Western VTubers are greedy grifters, doesn't matter if there's actually content locked behind the highest tier or not, they are still choosing to ask for it because they are hoping somebody will pay. At least they don't make it $1,000 like Matsuri does though Kek , they are just as greedy but they don't have the balls.

[Anonymous No.]

She may get a shitton of money in the short term but honestly her viewership is declining, she will never release good songs and be an Ame tier singer. At the end of the year she may even be still below 500k.
I just hope her whales soon find her spiel boring and change oshis and then she will be left with the least subbed channel, smallest viewership and no redeeming talents. I predict a graduation before 2025.

[Anonymous No.]

Everyone in Hololive should do this really, fuck gifted niggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686816
i wouldn't say a members only poll to decide content is very minor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58688893
they do not lock content of any kind behind the higher tiers

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
well, she actually streams, thats good, or you can try paying for guras membership and get nothing at all.

[Anonymous No.]

You are like a little baby

[Anonymous No.]

>>58689181
sasuga anon, you managed to insert gura into this somehow

[Anonymous No.]

>>58689104
Yeah these gorillas are chimping out over literally nothing lol

[Anonymous No.]

>poor /vt/ unicorn

[Anonymous No.]

>>58688556
>I've heard Irys does something for higher tiers too.
Nope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
desu as long as she isn't locking asmr content behind the 10 dollar tier like fucking haato I don't care. Not going to buy her membership unless she does asmr tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58689004
>deflecting
im sorry your oshi dont love you bro. Need a hand on being gifted? Oh wait..

[Anonymous No.]

you're retarded
it's youtube tier descriptions not working correctly
5 dollar members get all the member streams, just like every other tiered membership plan

[Anonymous No.]

>highest tier is only $10
This is such a nothingburger. Shit thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58689381
donate $100 more and she might say your name in chat

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685391
The only one who used to do Tier 3 content was SHOCK, Mori, and she finally stopped after getting publicly dragged for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58689309
Uhh OP? What the fuck do we do now? This is a actual grifter not the baby stuff we are trying to push

[Anonymous No.]

>>58689488
They know that, they're literally just seething over 10$ tier getting monthly audio diaries and member polls

[Anonymous No.]

I don't understand the issue, don't you guys feed literally everything into your chuuba's thread+/t/orent if there are member only things?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58689591
why is she the only one in advent to do it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58689747
I need to be able to experience all my oshi's content and still have enough for akasupas. Shiori isn't allowing that, instead gating her content for the rich and the privileged. That is disgusitng behavior.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58689844
???

[Anonymous No.]

>>58690019
Uhhhh OP? Our narrative of lies is falling apart do we spam threads hoping they dont find us and try again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58690019
>I-its different cause they don't put in any special effort for their higher tiers!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>58690019
they aren't locking content behind other tiers

[Anonymous No.]

>>58690252
>>58690163
Lol called it, it'll get leaked anyway faggot and it's not like she's locking away streams. Seethe about missing a few minutes of audio and member poll

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686382
The funniest part is that it actually unironically might be true if you dig deeper

[Anonymous No.]

>>58690252
What's even the point in those other tiers then? And $25? Even if you divide by 2 because there's 2 of them, that's still $14.50. That's an actual scam for what will probably just be watchalongs of Blue's Clues.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58687487
Oh God this one is going to neck himself when it happens....

[Anonymous No.]

>>58690387
Yeah shiori's MAX is 10$, but you got chuubas with 25$, 50$, and even 100$ tiers. If she's "milking her viewers", why such dirt cheap prices?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58690387
Because you want to support them more?
Every membership opening stream has the holomems saying the higher tiers are just there if you want to support them more. This has been the case since gen 0 with Suisei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58690387
$12.50*

[Anonymous No.]

>>58690387
Gura, is that you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58690496
>When x happea
>If X happens
>can't wait till X happens
>X happening soon
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684174
The point here is members only stream are behind $10/month with Shiori

[Anonymous No.]

Holy shit, it's just 10$. Do you guys really that poor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58689309
>Smile for you
holy fuck I'm gonna member a holostar

[Anonymous No.]

>>58690387
Kill yourself newfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>58690611
No they aren't
Only meaningless polls and audio diaries which will get posted to 4chan just like everything else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58690611
They're actually not illiterate faggot, 5$ gets them. why claim something so easily disproved

[Anonymous No.]

>>58690639
do you guys really that poor

[Anonymous No.]

>>58689322
>Only EN
>EN
>other EN
what did you expect?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58690639
the vast majority of north americans are poor, but even then they have more money than you do argentinian

[Anonymous No.]

>>58690611
They aren't

[Anonymous No.]

>SEA morning hours
>Larping cant afford 10 dollars
yup

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684174
Retard gifted don’t get the lowest tier they get the $5 one because that’s how much gifts cost

[Anonymous No.]

>>58690611
so go be poor somewhere else you stupid nigger sea monkey

[Anonymous No.]

>>58690822
post your superchat receipts

[Anonymous No.]

This seems like a good chance to ask.
Does anyone have a good site to get the member locked content?
I'm mainly looking for the member wallpapers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58690822
Like clockwork really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58688262
This simp pride mentality is really weird.

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine thinking your entitled to member polls because you sat in chat long enough to get gifted kek, you're not a paying customer, your a leech, why do you get a say?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58690872
boards.4chan.org/vt/[OSHI THREAD HERE]
the /t/ thread
the links in the /t/ thread
the links in the /t/ thread's OP
/r/
(etc)

[Anonymous No.]

>>58689309
>Homobeggars can’t read or follow along
I guess that explains a lot

[Anonymous No.]

>>58691029
Why are you in this board you complete waste of space?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58691224
i like watching vtubers. you don't need to simp or get an inflated since of pride over it to do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58691029
>implying you arent just a poor brown simp seething like a dirty field nigger about richer simps
the state of esl redditards

[Anonymous No.]

>>58691224
Probably drama. Who knows, why did you even give them a (You)?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58691303
>Wants to enjoy content for free without supporting the chuuba
>gets upset when they offer extra, paid content that they can't just sit around and wait to get gifted to them
Lol seeth giftfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>58691426
i don't think there's anything wrong with how shiori chooses to monetize her channel
being proud of being a simp is weird tho

>>58691356
giving money to rich people is weird, sorry anon. being prideful over it is even weirder.

[Anonymous No.]

>Unironic usage of the word simp on /vt/
Advent newfags were a mistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>58691578
Lol kill yourself you retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>58688556
Irys does joi twitter spaces at the highest tier

>>58689354
Yeah she does

[Anonymous No.]

>>58690329
You “called” what’s been the point of the thread? That’s what they’ve been arguing that paywalling content at the highest tier is weird not that they shouldn’t have other tiers. Gura has hundreds maybe thousands of sharkside members for nothing which is the point. She can do whatever she wants but people can complain if they feel like it. You’re all so obsessed and defensive as if they see you or care

[Anonymous No.]

>>58691578
>Brown retard thinks a brand new vtuber is rich
Haha holy shit how fucking poor are you? Gutter oil poor or Favela poor?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58691713
Can confirm, I am Jack

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
this is what happens when you fall for the asian waifoo meme

they are horrible greedy materialists

[Anonymous No.]

>>58691578
I only agree with you in regards to holos that just save all the money up for personal use
There are plenty of holos who spend a decent chunk of the money they get on projects for their fans and in that case, you do actually get worthwhile returns for your support

[Anonymous No.]

>>58691578
Every time you buy groceries, clothes, toilet paper, pay your internet and cell phone bill you’re giving money to rich people. You better go live in a monk monastery or something if you don’t want to give rich people money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58691578
If they take pride in doing something on an anonymous board it means they don’t actually spend money. Normally you just spend the money and move on

[Anonymous No.]

>>58684115
>2/5/8~10 is industry norm
No it's not you fucking liar. You literally pulled that out of your ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>58690715
>polls that will dictate the direction in which her content goes is meaningless
cope
shiori's setting herself up for kroni-tier "mods are my friends" faggotry at best, to the nijifish's secret exclusive groomer discord at worst with this division of her fanbase

[Anonymous No.]

>>58692076
Kek division of the filthy disgusting turd worlder poors from the normal fans?

[Anonymous No.]

GODDAMN IT FEELS GOOD TO BE A RUFFIAN

[Anonymous No.]

>>58691968
Wow you are retarded. You aren’t giving if you get something in return it’s called a trade like when you offer seashells for a rock necklace

[Anonymous No.]

>>58692160
The "normal" fans aren't going to be the ones that are simping hundreds of dollars a month trying to mindbreak her into being their sister wife.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
I love this yabqueen

[Anonymous No.]

>>58687917
>think everything she does is bad
Yes
Illiterates basically exist to twist everything she done as bad, even though it was something A. other Holo members did or B. Shiori did objectively better
They weren't even aware that gifted fucks still get members stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685076
basically 0 of them have any difference in content between 5$ and upwards though.

[Anonymous No.]

>itt

[Anonymous No.]

>>58691676
>>58691659
just because she's a vtuber doesn't mean you're not simping, and i've probably been following hololive longer than you.

>>58691767
i'm white not that it makes any difference, you impotent dork.

>>58691892
my original point was that the weird pride you see on /vt/ over simping is weird. i don't think there's anything really wrong with donating to the girls if it makes you happy/you have money to spare.

>>58691968
very dumb argument

For the record i like shiori and only came in here to post >>58687608
I don't know why some of you are frothing so hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58692188
BAUSED

[Anonymous No.]

Who cares

[Anonymous No.]

>>58692160
If you hadn't noticed the clockfag remnant are not normal and finana's bullshittery in affording some "fans" special privileges and personal playime and talktime cost her her entire fanbase and all her paypigs.

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>>58692160
Bro based on the time you’re either American, Australian “Asian” or insert 3rd world here. Which means it’s more likely you’re one of the people you’re attacking. If you want to make it less obvious don’t add the word poor as 3rd world already implies you’re poor

[Anonymous No.]

What are you faggots all seething over, her monetization is extremely tame and normal for a holo
>Inb4 EOPs

[Anonymous No.]

>>58693047
The seething ones are gift baiters, They're seething for not getting full service.
Fuck them.

[Anonymous No.]

Highest membership count in a single stream for EN.
Bonus: 968 of them were T3 according to Hololyzer. 780 were T1 and the rest were T2.
Have fun with that information.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58691873
>not a new IP

[Anonymous No.]

>>58693915
968 people deciding whats best for the rest of them, and the rest of her viewers too

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685701
>pay more
>get more content
fucking wild concept

[Anonymous No.]

>>58694224
You act like they'll fucking dictate what she does at gunpoint kek, keep seething sister it's really not that important

[Anonymous No.]

>>58685598
she did it because she literally never did the bare minimum 3 monthly streams for all members

[Anonymous No.]

I never tire of seeing my wife Shiori blessing the 'log

[Anonymous No.]

>>58693915
So simplifying to round numbers about 1k t1, 3k t2, 1k t3, pretty even distribution. In terms of income that's 3k from t1, 15k from t2, and 10k from t3 for 28k a month. After cover and youtube's cut that's like 7k a month or about 84k a year of this initial crop of members. Good shit shiori

[Anonymous No.]

Mori got shit for this I believe

[Anonymous No.]

>>58694224
She ain't gating off streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
Well It just so happens I'm from the great country of Argentina

[Anonymous No.]

>>58695203
she is gating off polls for what the streams are

[Anonymous No.]

>>58695023
mori was a mistake withmangement
but some jps do it so i dont see any issue.
i know im suscribed to roboc highest tier to have access to her asmr archive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58693915
How did the rest of Advent compare in their mem opening streams?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58695291
And? Are you really seething over member polls?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58695306
this. same for Luna

[Anonymous No.]

>>58695428
those members get to choose what the rest of the members get, which is kinda lame

[Anonymous No.]

>>58690019
Fuwamoco doesn’t lock content behind tiers. I don’t think any Holo EN does. Mori tried it, but got endless shit for it, until she got rid of it.

[Anonymous No.]

Just member Shiori with ARS to protest
It'll be like $1 USD LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>58695352
FWMC: 4336 mem + 796 gifted. (268k Yen in SC's)
Biboo: 4146 mem + 733 gifted (307k Yen in SC's)
Rissa: 3653 mem + 820 gifted. (370k Yen in SC's)

[Anonymous No.]

>>58695504
Seethe about it, why should giftniggers get to dictate streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>58696065
they shouldnt, youtube should remove the "gifters get the $5 tier" portion and only give them the lowest tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>58695352
If including gifted?
Fuwamoco: 7057
Bijou: 4881
Nerrisa: 4473

[Anonymous No.]

>>58686833
The red flags are why she gets them

[Anonymous No.]

>>58696607
Where'd the 7k come from? Unless that's including another stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58696607
U must be awful at math in least to most it's
Shiori
Fwmc
Bijou
Nerissa
Fwmc only got 5132 total

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
I would pay the extra 5 bones for my chuba to do this in order to eliminate the grey beggar gift sub problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>58697498
Think anon meant most to least

[Anonymous No.]

paypigs are hilarious

[Anonymous No.]

People are free to like or dislike her, I just think when it's obvious she does things in bad faith like this only to milk cash extra hard that I don't see how one can have much dignity/self respect to be a fan of hers, and I mean I think more than enough flags are out that she literally doesn't know or care about Hololive or being a Holo and never did and thinks she's better than it and only is using the platform for herself. A bit of an EN Rushia in the making, IMO. I don't know or expect when or how she'll massively disappoint but it just feels inevitable from her in specific.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58698766
>one can have much dignity/self respect to be a fan of hers,
There's no self respect being a fan of VTuber, or streamers in general, faggot. Either you like their content or you don't, either you support her or you don't.
A few years ago just sending superchat a few times made you a fucking simp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58699358
>A few years ago just sending superchat a few times made you a fucking simp.
It still does

[Anonymous No.]

>>58698766
>it's obvious she does things in bad faith like this only to milk cash extra hard
what are you talking about. what other things has she done "in bad faith" to milk cash?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58699358
There is a massive fucking difference between sending money to someone who took a fucking vacation 2 weeks into debut just 'cuz and is now arbitrarily setting higher membership funding just 'cuz and who failed every single question in a Holo quiz to the point even the most mainstream commentary noticed, vs supporting anyone else in the gen. They're not all equal in attitude/approach, not even fucking close. Shiori in specific has an ultra-patronizing, condescending outlook and basically no human being making a living playing an anime avatar panhandling for money has the right to talk down to even a burger flipper IMO. They're the bottom of the bottom. They should be grateful for where they are and every single thing about Shiori screams the opposite.

You can tell that from her overall trends that as soon as she fucks up she will take literally 0 blame and be even worse than Kronii or Mori and turn a complete 180 on the audience. Some girls would be more understanding or diplomatic but nah, she will just go "pfft it's your fault obviously if you don't like me shitting on you incel now gimme more money" in so many words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253
Didn't see the problem here.
t.poorfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>58700551
I don't see the problem either because I know my oshi won't start charging me for stuff that she already did for free before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58700266
>Shiori in specific has an ultra-patronizing, condescending outlook and basically no human being making a living playing an anime avatar panhandling for money has the right to talk down to even a burger flipper IMO. They're the bottom of the bottom. They should be grateful for where they are and every single thing about Shiori screams the opposite.
>You can tell that from her overall trends that as soon as she fucks up she will take literally 0 blame and be even worse than Kronii or Mori and turn a complete 180 on the audience. Some girls would be more understanding or diplomatic but nah, she will just go "pfft it's your fault obviously if you don't like me shitting on you incel now gimme more money" in so many words.
if this is not a shitpost i'm very sorry anon, you are getting angry at things you made up in your head. literally schizo behavior

[Anonymous No.]

>>58697208
FWMC had two streams in row on that day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58701056
I'm sorry you're a fucking blind idiot. No really. People were right about Mori and Kronii fucking months and months before their serious turnover points where the broader audience finally had to notice and say something, and Shiori is that same telegraphing game on fucking easy mode. You're free to like her, you're just even more of a fucking idiot than the usual paypig if you give her even a single rotten cent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58683253

[Anonymous No.]

would be fun reading all the cope when she eventually collabs with male