I don't undersand Vshojo fans ego.

[Anonymous No.]

Every few days we got a thread that's basically saying "Look how great Vshojo is! Literally better than X and Y corpos!". Most of the times I ignore these threads until I saw this graph, for a corpo that have such insignificant impact in the vtuber scene AND it's also shriking (went from 3,4% in May to 3% in august) why their fans talks and attack other corpos so much?

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>>58548283

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>>58548283
>numberfag bait
>vshojo bait
>tribalfag bait
You're trying really hard huh, 3/10

[Anonymous No.]

Nah but ur absolutely right.
Andy they say ironmouse>gura
Get real ironlung

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
who cares about vshojo. look at them homobeggars!!! LOOK!

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
Vshojo is more popular with people who want to use it as a tool in a culture war than it is with people who actually watch vtubers. If you go to their general they just talk about their vtubers, and those are the real fans and they don't leave. Anything you see on the catalog is just shit stirring asshats falseflagging as vshojo fans, or vshojo fans getting baited by holo fans or niji fans who fell for the bait from the shitposters and tourists.

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>>58549659

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
your falling for bait threads

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
Why is VSPO split in two different entries?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
now normalize that by number of streamers

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
First off stop believing bait threads. Second off that image is going by worldwide numbers, where you have to add +100 streamers to Niji's numbers and +30 or so to Hololive. When people say VShojo is big they mean in the West specifically, which it very much is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
>making numberfag bait about Niji
>now making numberfag about Vshojo
What are haloshills such miserable cunts?

[Anonymous No.]

>ironmouse is the #1 en vtuber outside of hololive and she’s even besting a majority of holoEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>58550517
>2+ years
>10M+ investment
>Only 10 talents
That's skill issue

[Anonymous No.]

>>58551654
By hours streamed/hours watched only. She's not the top chuuba outside Hololive by ccv :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>58550517 (me)
nevermind I did it for you
333k hours hololive
300k hours vshojo
125k hours nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

You do realize that those 3% this month of august are actually 5 streamers only ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58550517
august month vshojo had 4 active streamers only
3% is a big number for 4 streamers

[Anonymous No.]

>>58551900
No other en vtuber compares outside holo even compares anon
She’s even beating irys, mori, kronii, kiara, bae, shiori, bijou, fauna, ina, ame nerissa, etc in holo lmao
>only en vtuber to get over 200k active memberships
>1.7mil followers on twitch
>beating all of councilrys to 1 mil on yt
>has had a higher ccv than holoen for 2 years straight

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
Same reason chihuahuas bark at dogs 4 times their size, they're fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
INDIES RISE UP

[Anonymous No.]

>>58552256
in that case it's 676k hours/streamer in >>58552113
but I don't know who didn't stream in hololive or nijisanji, that month so that's not a fair comparison

[Anonymous No.]

So why do Holodrones have sand in their vaginas this time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58551900
You do realize that twitch view numbers are far more impressive than youtube view numbers ?

[Anonymous No.]

indie chads eating good

[Anonymous No.]

>holofags still deepthroating ironmouse bait
Just kill yourself, you can't accomplish anything in life if you're so fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>58552808
Henya asserted her dominance by getting her to admit to being a furry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58553000
she also kicked her down the stairs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GjlSmydUPQ

[Anonymous No.]

Aren't virtual esports project and VSPO! the same thing?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
Independent VTuber Agency absolutely shitting down HoloLive's throat and slapping their cock and nuts all over their faces, blown the fuck out to the maximum

[Anonymous No.]

>>58554038
how can Vshojo compete?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58549105
Baits imply deception, OP is stating facts

[Anonymous No.]

Casually mogs your en branch

[Anonymous No.]

>>58554602

[Anonymous No.]

I will tune in to every Heem Hajeem stream before I will sit through Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58555067
This post is bait
He intentionally picked someone that never streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>58555244
this thread is bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>58555008
That post was directed at Niji, you dummy

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
>Holostars losing to fucking 774
Jesus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58555343
don't reply to me again cuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>58555244
Thats the joke. Hime has like 10 less hours than gura in the past 6 months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58555717
mouse sleeping is more interesting than the entirety of holoEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>58552262
>only en vtuber to get over 200k active memberships
Subathon. It just a metric how mentally ill your viewerbase is, example there's 3views with 30k subs.
>1.7mil followers on twitch
Followers means nothing, theres several 1M followers streamers that get no live viewers
>beating all of councilrys to 1 mil on yt
There's indies with more youtube views/subcrivers than her
>has had a higher ccv than holoen for 2 years straight
That's not my point, there's Koreans indies that maintained higher ccv than her consistently. Anything else?

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>>58555008
Casually mogs holoen for 2 years straight
>gets a vtuber award
>6 years of vtubing experience
>Higher ccv than all of holoen
>Beats holoen on streamcharts every month

[Anonymous No.]

>>58556742
Koreans shitting on vshojo will never not be funny to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>58556747
>VShojo's concert had PS4 models

[Anonymous No.]

>>58556747
nice bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>58554457
The only fact is how EMBARRASSING it is for professionals to lose to indies sheeeeeeeesh

[Anonymous No.]

>>58557587
>Higher hours streamed and wtachtime
>Has a higher average ccv than 9/10 holoen for 2 years
>mogging
>has higher active memberships than them all

[Anonymous No.]

>>58555717
I’m sorry your oshi isn’t a 4view yet, sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>58556747
>Casually mogs holoen for 2 years straight
idk if you are retard or justt really high on copium

[Anonymous No.]

>>58557293
I mean if you're going by the OP then VShojo actually beats them out. Isegye is the big Korean group at 2.8 and VShojo's at 3.

[Anonymous No.]

modestly disguised henya seethe thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>58556742
>Followers
Much bigger deal on Twitch than it is on YT. There's ju8st under 500 accounts total that have broken that barrier, with only about 150 being above 2 million which Mouse is approaching and should definitely hit next year.
>1 mil YT
The point of that comparison is that it's not even her main platform. Compare to someone like Ame whose secondary platform is Twitch only being at 100k there.

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>>58558069

[Anonymous No.]

stealth /#/ thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
>Every few days we got a thread that's basically saying "Look how great Vshojo is! Literally better than X and Y corpos!"
There are daily Vshojo bait / seethe threads on this board, yes. You're inside of one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58555244
>joke stream
I will die on this hill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58559038
And yet they shit on "the most popular"(self proclaimed) vtuber that needs to buy awards

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
>every day we get a falseflagging bait thread...
stopped reading there
newfag pls leave

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
There's always the same guy in them too who uses Henya smug images. He used to use IronMouse images but I guess he got bored of her

[Anonymous No.]

>>58559108
welcome to the family henyafag but not every vshojo bait thread is about you

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
but muh freedom

[Anonymous No.]

They are delusional but deep down they know that they are at best only slightly above small corpos, that's why they are seeking validation by always comparing themselves with Hololive acting like they are in the same league or one mentally ill retard just keep repeating Ironmouse is "OG" as if she is part of real OG but never give any answer when people ask what's her achievement on her early days

[Anonymous No.]

>>58562703
nice cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>58562845
Either you don't know what cope means or you seethe so hard but have no argument

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
Not really surprising, losing Nyanners and Vei probably knocked there numbers down a bit

[Anonymous No.]

>>58563070
Why would I argue with someone who's making up bullshit just for a cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>58563256
>Making up bullshit
Unironically happening in this thread, oh right it must be falseflagger right ? Now that's a cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>58563475
keep seething you angry manlet

[Anonymous No.]

>>58559709
Why is always Vshojo tho? Phasefags stay on their lane, same with everysingle corpo and indies. Niji makes sense because they are actually trying (and failing) to compete with holo. But Vshojo? Nobody really cares, people would stop shitting on them if they simply stoped trying to bark back lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58563529
And now you're projecting lol and those are facts or you want to say that Vshojo is as big as Hololive or you want to give me a list of Ironmouse achievement in her early days

[Anonymous No.]

>>58563811
It's not Vshojofags who make those threads.

>But Vshojo? Nobody really cares, people would stop shitting on them...
Yeah, no. This board is too tribalistic for that.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are Vshojos forced to stream on a fossil platform?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58549487
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>58563811
Holy newfag...holoshills threw the 1st stone. Learn your /vt/ history before posting something so stupid. Also vshojofags have sharp teeth and know how to get under holoshills skin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58563983
blah blah blah
cry more

[Anonymous No.]

>>58564191
They aren't forced to stream on any platform.
Kson mostly streams on youtube, Melody streams on chaturbate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58549770
idiota

[Anonymous No.]

>>58563811
>>58563983
>>58562703
>>58559424
>>58558321
>>58556742
Mogs your entire en branch without even trying

[Anonymous No.]

>>58549105
>tribal

nobody here cares about vshojo and twitch whores in general so why even bait about it? They have like 1-2 regular treads and the board usually just laughs at them for being normie cucks with no taste.

[Anonymous No.]

Vshojo only have IronMouse, K-son and Henya, the rest are 3views

The same goes for Phase connect, they only have Pippa.

Just because you have one good streamer at your company it doesn't make it an excellent company, you need a lot of streamers that actually do stuff.

Imagine if holoEN was just Gura, that would be 10 streams in a year for a branch

[Anonymous No.]

>>58552536
false

[Anonymous No.]

>>58564363
>>58564479
>Still no argument
I accept your concession

[Anonymous No.]

>>58564540
>nobody here cares about vshojo and twitch whores in general so why even bait about it? They have like 1-2 regular treads and the board usually just laughs at them for being normie cucks with no taste.
funny thing is you apparently care kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>58564552
>the rest are 3views
All Vshojo members are 4 views.

>>58564540
because you bite, otherwise you wouldn't even be in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
The data is wrong btw faggots that made this graph actually counted VSPO two times, they should have 5,4%. Also Isegye idol mogs vshitshow in CCV on a regular basis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58564611
why do you loving seething so much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58552113
>twitch numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>58554602
She can stand up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58550704
if West is twitch to you and even then it's mostly Ironmouse, they mostly rely on one popular member at this point (used to be 3) making them similar to microcorps like phase or idol with their single standout.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58564689
on twitch, so that mean they are 3view

[Anonymous No.]

>>58564305
false

[Anonymous No.]

>>58564985
I don't care about your definition /#/ monkey

[Anonymous No.]

>>58564817
nope

[Anonymous No.]

>>58565162
But she is standing up right there

[Anonymous No.]

>>58564985
Oh is that how it works? Kind of odd how whenever a Holo streamer does a Twitch stream they get 1/4th the audience. You'd think since it's so easy to get higher CCV there they'd atleast get the same amount. Almost like it's a cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58564305
>Vshojokek calling people newfag
Rumao, no one knows Vshojo before Kson join in and then Vshojokek deluded themselves that they will beat Hololive, know your place faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>58559394
People follow Ironlung because she's constantly dying not due to talent or anything she does on stream it's constant pity-bait combined with dedicate begging marathons and twitch fags should feel embarrassed about this shit instead of bragging.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
I could summarize the part you don't get
>be baited
>don't realize you were baited
>the bait was so brazen you still think about it
>the bait haunts your nightmares
>you believe must dismantle the bait
>make this thread
Nobody who just watches what they like cares to make a deep dive on any of this.

[Anonymous No.]

How old are you that you still participate in something even lamer than console wars?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58565256
wow that's even more newfag of you, you were never around in 2021 I see

[Anonymous No.]

>>58564479
Neat, but I’m still not gonna watch her

[Anonymous No.]

>>58565236
>Holo streamer does a Twitch stream they get 1/4th the audience.
That's because his audience is on YouTube, moron.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58565235
>she

it's some sweaty dude in a studio on the other side of the world, you actually thought vshojo whores took dance lessons to record their youtube concert or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58565235
He/she is a professional dancer who pretends to be her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58565373
>lamer than console wars?
that is thousands of times worse and you know it

[Anonymous No.]

>>58558069
>twitch numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>58565047
you should retard
>>58565236
Holos have an important % of their audience only on Youtube, most people don't even have twitch account or watch twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>58565371
Stop larping newfag, no one actually care about Vshojo before Kson and people only have issue with Veibae

[Anonymous No.]

>>58565575
>noo twitch numbers aren't real even though you can see a list of every user who is currently watching the stream
>you can only trust the Fortified Democracy Pajeet Numbers(tm) from youtube!!
>youtube is famous for promoting creators fairly and organically, like (shitty american talkshow guy nobody cares about) and legacy media channels!

[Anonymous No.]

>>58564706
The chart is watch hours not CCV. Lower CCV can beat higher CCV with more stream hours, and the combination of Zentreya, Ironmouse, and Henya puts them a head above in stream hours

[Anonymous No.]

>>58565742
I'm not the one talking out of his ass making up a bullshit narrative. You seem awfully angry for someone who "doesn't care"

[Anonymous No.]

>>58564305
>holoshills threw the 1st stone.
That's no true at all kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58566003
you damn right it is, holofags attack anything that's not holoshit, stop trying to play the innocent angel

[Anonymous No.]

>>58566148
newfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>58566264
cope and seethe at the truth you know to be all too real

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
>/#/
(You) need to go back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58565943
>Making up a bullshit narrative
Are you talking about yourself ? Saying Holofag threw the 1st stone lol, newfag trying to bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>58566003
It definitely is. Tribe brained hologlodytes went nuts when VShojo presented themselves as different from corporations. And this got under their skin for many reasons, some of which are polar opposite. And they are still seething over it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58566310
Thanks for proving I was right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58566378
samefag

[Anonymous No.]

>>58566378
>VShojo presented themselves as different from corporations
>Vshojofag then barking that they will beat Hololive with "talent freedom" and all
>Got shitted on
>w-why you attacking us

[Anonymous No.]

>>58566364
I've been on this board since the beginning, and you're trying to tell me holoshills aren't toxic af and don't attack anons pphhhfff you live in a dream world

[Anonymous No.]

>>58566541
>I've been on this board since the beginning
newfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>58566533
You're missing about a year of the timeline here. I was actually around /vsj+/ in its earliest days and it was literally daily raids from Nyan and VShojo antis even when a single thread would last a couple days and couldn't survive overnight. Saying that VShojo started a fight when literally their very existence has caused unending seethe by the people here is quite silly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58566622
what? fuck you're stupid and you ran out shit to say
I accept your concession

[Anonymous No.]

>>58566533
I just think it's funny that you're so tribalistic you get mad when holofags are shit on. When someone calls VShojofags garbage, I'm not especially insulted because I'm not a tribalfag. I sometimes agree. Some of them are trash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58550513
Because who ever made this is a retard and doesn't realize Vspo and Virtual Esports Project are the same thing, and also somehow got different results for how much they are watched.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58566633
based and true, I even remember before that trying to post about indies and it was nothing but "who" and 'you should go watch X person in hololive"

[Anonymous No.]

>>58566633
More like people hate Nyanner for many reasons not really about Vshojo, the fight between Holofag and Vshojofag in particular is because of the whole "talent freedom" thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>58566714
This board is barely three years old,newfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58566872
"Talent freedom" wasn't a slogan until mid 2022. You're skipping over a year of time to make that claim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58566872
holy newfag "talent freedom" only came around in 2022

[Anonymous No.]

>>58566726
Nah, i just don't like the whole playing victim "y-you did it first"

[Anonymous No.]

Niji literally floods the market with so many talents that it's actually surprising they're not number one. Holo is THE biggest company in the industry and also has almost 100 talents, so again, not really that surprising. Vshojo has a whopping 10 talents. 2 of them basically never stream and another what? 3? are part time at best.

Like it or not, the vshojo girls who actually bother are probably some of the most watched out there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58566975
Holy retard, the point is everyone hate Nyanner it has nothing to do with Holo vs Vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

ITT Holoshills prove yet again they have no clue what their talking about and never leave their hugbox

[Anonymous No.]

>>58566633
You just answered yourself. Nyan antis shitted on vsj and not necessarily holofags lol. Holofags started shitting on vshojo when some of you faggots started pushing "muh talent freedom is better" bullshit everywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58567013
I'm pretty sure you just don't like pushback.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58567088
keep trying to cover up the fact that you have no clue what you're talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>58567145
I guess 2021 was all a dream then kek

[Anonymous No.]

Having an ego with regards to corporations is such a weird concept to me in general, regardless if it's Niji, Holo, Phase, VShojo, etc. It's like feeling superior because you exclusively shop at Walmart instead of Target, Big Lots or K-Mart

[Anonymous No.]

>>58567145
And Zen antis? And Melody antis? And Ironmouse antis? And Silvervale antis? And Froot antis? And Vei antis? While everyone goes around calling this a Holoboard? Come on anon don't be daft.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58567150
Let's be real, your "pushback" is like a small dog barking to a big dog, more like you can't handle the heat so you start playing victim

[Anonymous No.]

>sleep stream?
>consoom

[Anonymous No.]

>>58567300
This guy >>58567097 said Holofag never leave their hugbox so ? Let's not pretend like Vshojo member are well liked

[Anonymous No.]

>>58567375
Pushback isn't a competition. You give pushback to a friend who's about to do stupid things. Just the fact that you frame it this way shows I was more right than I thought.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
Holy shit vshitshow is still alive?
Didn't like all their top talents except for the second pink one ditch it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58567227
I can understand if an insecure Walmart-shopping gets offended if people who shop at Walmart get shit on. The answer is to keep shopping at Walmart if that's what's good for you. If you're feeling spicy, just explain why you shop at Walmart briefly and move on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58567469
Everyone knows that holodrones hate everything that isn't holoshit, it's not a big secret

[Anonymous No.]

>>58567627
how long did it take you to come up with that one? try harder next time

[Anonymous No.]

>>58556742
>It just a metric how mentally ill your viewerbase is
And just like that, demonstrating that anon has the self awareness of a shoe box.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58567227
>>58567647
You morons keep insulting fans, don't act like you're a centrist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58567668
Just because most of them only want to watch Hololive doesn't they hate everything else, more like they don't care and it's only because of you ego you think people who you said only know Hololive somehow going out of their way to raid a literal who

[Anonymous No.]

>held onto 20k for a whole month two years in a row
>these are her numbers for this month
>2022 12k average(beating everyone except gura)
>2021 8k average beating a majority of holoen
>200k active membership achievement
>Exploded twitch vtubing becoming the face of it
>mogging a 9/10 of holoens numbers
>6 year anniversary beat all of myths solo 3rd anniversary

[Anonymous No.]

>>58567935
I watch several chuubas, corpos and indies included. All I want is for them to stream with a healthy work life balance, regardless of what logo they have in the corner of the thumbnail. I don't watch chuubas to see a reflection of my own self destructice tendencies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58563983
No one ever said it was anon
Henya, ironmouse are currently mogging a large majority of holoens numbers while the rest are like kiara-mori tier ccv.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58567935
You're actually a retard that replaced their liquidized brains with memes. I understand if someone was insulted by that comment, but I'm still going to make it because it expresses my thoughts on how monumentally stupid what you just said was. Does that clarify it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58568428
>I watch several chuubas, corpos and indies included.
I do that too but it has nothing to do with what we are talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>58568509
Thanks for proving I was right.

[Anonymous No.]

>51 ips
im not even going to read this thread but i will call all #fags retards

[Anonymous No.]

>>58568581
There's not a single person who's old enough to post on this site and never deserved an insult. There's people who've deserved insults in every fandom. Too abstract for the water in your head?

[Anonymous No.]

Nijisanji flopping deflection thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
You're making the mistake of thinking this is the fans in general and not one or two schizo trolls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58568714
>There's not a single person who's old enough to post on this site and never deserved an insult.
That is completely false,redditor

[Anonymous No.]

>>58568552
i made that point because I was calling corpo loyalty stupid and a strange concept to me. Watch chuubas on their merits, not because of TALENT FREEDOM or blue dorito or any other factor other than the person behind the persona themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58550517
do you really want to "normalize" the number to give Anya and Iofi views they don't have?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58568879
>blue dorito
> stupid and a strange concept to me
that's because you're the stupid one

[Anonymous No.]

>>58568842
Everyone deserves an insult every now and again. If for nothing else, for trying so little that they never fucked up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
How many hours did Randon add to Indies that Holostars lost?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58568879
>I was calling corpo loyalty stupid
It's not a concept limited to vtubers though. How many people watched fucking Secret Invasion or Ms. Marvel (and are going to watch Echo/Agatha) because MUHDISNEYMARVEL and not becuase of the shows' merits (lol) themselves. Or imagine the people who watched fucking Andor (and Ahsoka) only because it's "Star Wars".

[Anonymous No.]

>>58568970
Are you being intentionally obtuse? I recognize Hololive as a brand and watch several of their talents, Bijou of Advent and Hajime of ReGLOSS being the most recent I added to my rotation. That doesn't mean I'm automatically going to think HOLOGOOD or HOLOBAD, it means I saw the rest and decided I wanted to invest time specifically in watching those over others because they appealed to me more. Same with Onigiri, same with Tenma, same with Ebosi and the same with any other talents I watch. Blindly supporting chuubas because of the logo in their thumbnail instead of because you like something about them is reddit CONSOOMer behavior.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58568400
>held onto 20k for a whole month two years in a row
That's wrong, the avg viewership of the 2023 subathon was 9.9k
>these are her numbers for this month
These are peaks and not avarage, her avarage for this month is 7k, for comparison this is 3k lower than koren indie viichan6 this month
>2022 12k average
Her 2022 avg was 10k not 12k
>200k active membership achievement
Subathon ZzZzZzZ...
>Exploded twitch vtubing
This is true and good for her!
> year anniversary beat all of myths solo 3rd anniversary
This is literally ironmouse all time high viewership lol. Gura all time peak is 190k+ lmao. Now that I proved that you are retarded, you are completly missing the point, there's no need to compare Ironmouse to anyone else, you don't need to put her above another chuuba, just apreciate her for what she is and acomplished, retard-chama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58549487
If holostars are that low, where the fuck is Phase Connect?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58565569
Arguing over eceleb numbers is infinitely worse than consoles

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
>why their fans talks and attack other corpos so much?
I'm not sure if this is bait, we don't attack anyone
We've been attacked since the board started because le western whores but I'm not going to start hating Mumei or Pomu because of that

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
>I don't undersand Vshojo fans ego.
dont try to

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
>0.9%
Geez yagoo, your boys need more support

[Anonymous No.]

>>58549062
And your oshi's are the same!

[Anonymous No.]

>>58574031
What the fuck is an oshis

[Anonymous No.]

>>58563811
>>58565256
Strangest revisionism I've ever seen

[Anonymous No.]

I can't think of any example or reason for vshojo anons to hate on other girls, besides self defence
Meanwhile vshojo's mere existence on this board has always caused seethe

[Anonymous No.]

Only relevant numbers for chuuba's popularity are IPs and posts per minute.

[Anonymous No.]

/lig/ won.

[Anonymous No.]

are holofans this mentally retarded?
most vshojo fans dont even give a shit about hololive and niji.

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>>58574555
hehehe let's pretend that there was no thread shitting on holo splash party day 1 getting delayed while vshojo concert was a "massive success"

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>>58575391
NTA but your inability to identify obvious bait posts is outstanding.
On the other hand, I personally made a thread where I wished both Vshojo and Holofans a pleasant day when the concerts happened and only some Holofans took "offense" to that and insulted the other side so don't give me that bullshit excuse.

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>>58575519
hehehe caught one

[Anonymous No.]

This thread desperatly needs to take a intro to statistics course.
Interpreting numbers as 1!=1 is genuinley retarded and very indicative of which fanbase they're a part of.
Also you should all deepthroat a shotgun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58569589
Pippa connect doesn't have enough relevant streamers to be in a graph

[Anonymous No.]

>>58569589
in the "other" cathegory probably

[Anonymous No.]

>>58575391
>Thread obviously made by a holofag
you do realize holoshiiters are your fellow holofan right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58548283
At least VShojo is on it, which I cannot say about Phase Connect, so Phaseniggers are even more pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

>>58577751
>Oh yeah? Well I may be pathetic, but that homeless man is even worse! So jokes on you!
That's not the own you think it is rumao

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>>58567719
Sorry I don't keep up to date with small corpos especially ones on twitch

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>>58574555
>most vshojo fans dont even give a shit about hololive and niji.
/vsj+/ is always shitting on Holo members

[Anonymous No.]

Vshojo anti’s are still seething in this thread
Holy shit go save your new dying en gen shitters

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>>58548283
see >>58552312
inferiority complex is a hell of a drug

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>>58581431
anon, the girl and the model are two separate things
you can dislike one and not the other

[Anonymous No.]

>>58575391
I'm a vshojofag and I don't even know what holo splash party means

[Anonymous No.]

>>58549062
vshojo defenders saying this is ironic considering you have multiple girls who openly talk about sucking cock on stream

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>>58558042
you do realize that the indie category encompasses literally every vtuber that doesn't belong to a corpo right? if anything, it's fucking crazy that these companies are able to compete with literally every single indie vtuber on the planet, there would be thousands upon thousands of them with zero barrier to entry.

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>>58556747
yeah it's almost like she captured a normie audience that is gonna fuck off in a year or two because vtubing is just a fad to them.

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>>58581827
why is /vsj+/ talking about Gura's new outfit to begin whit? I've never seen global talking about vshojo, but /vsj+/ was talking about and throwing shit on Gura's new outfit, kiara's new outfit, Kronii's outfit and rigging and fuwamoco's content, and that's just this weak

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>>58584196
do you have any links/screenshots?

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>why their fans talks and attack other corpos so much?
Because they have literally NOTHING to raise their whores with. What's left in pulling everyone else down to their level, in true western woman fashion.

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>>58582850
>multiple
I'll wait for you to provide the "multiple" evidence.

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>>58581827
>topic is about Vshojofag saying they don't give a shit but proven to keep talking about Holo
average IQ of Vshojofag, kek

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>>58584196
In all those cases it's because someone brought it up. Usually a tourist and often someone who blatantly admits they were out perusing the catalog, which we constantly tell people not to do.

Also Hololive rigging is shit. Everybody knows this.

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>>58582918
it says they only counted 3000 vtubers (probably the top 3000) so the amount of indies is limited

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>>58584196
>Holo debuts a new model
>catalog gets flooded with threads about it
It gets talked about because it's impossible to avoid and because the rigging is usually shit, which everyone knows by now and isn't new.

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>>58584835
>mogs your dogshit en branch

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>>58585630
>t-they are tourists
>t-they are falseflaggers
why don't you just ignore them if you don't give a shit ? holy retard

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>>58585513
That ProjectMelody literally has a onlyfans.

https://onlyfans.com/projektbutt
>have u ever looked into someone's eyes, or at somebody's dick and been completely in love...? infatuated by them/it, inspired even...? wanting nothing more than to **extract the code** [if you know what i mean] /'(´ཀ`)ﬣ∠ well, i have. Melware was needing a lot of *extractinggg* that one time. i dont know what my fave part of this experience was. the first extraction, the second extraction, or my dripping wet (you know what) after~

>missing Melware and her dick right about now fr

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>>58586156

[Anonymous No.]

Watch whoever you want. Nothing matters. We're all gonna die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58584822
>58417749
>58259194
>58188543
>57926950
>57927543

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>>58586229
I wasn't him.
I stopped watching vshojo after finding out about Melody being a slut (not that I even watched them much to begin with).
How can one expect good otaku things from a COMPANY that promotes nomralfag degeneracy?

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>>58584822
>>58417749
>>58259194
>>58188543
>>57926950
>>57927543

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>>58586360
now apply that same logic to holoshit
kek being a hypocrite is a holofags bread and butter

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>>58586400
>The rigging is bad
>This outfit is bad
>Fuwamoco is Cocomelon
>Kronii's model has shitty anatomy
>The rigging is bad
the only one of these that could be considered an insult against the actual talent is the Fuwamoco line, and tons of peopole say that shit about them. The rest is commenting on the quality of the model like that anon said. >>58581827

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>>58586496
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque

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>>58586569
You ignored his point about how holofans don't talk about vsj models nearly as much, and why are vsj fans even bothering with holo?

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>>58586668
>why are vsj fans even bothering with holo?
They aren't

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>>58586668
Because when VShojo debuts a new model the catalog doesn't get absolutely flooded with threads about it. The Gura and Kiara outfits were literally within the last week if you took one look at the catalog while it was happening it would be impossible to not know what's going on.

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>>58586496
The difference is one is /directly/ linked to her vtuber persona. Ergo, vsj accepts sucking dick with their models.
The other is only knowable if you're a dox-looking faggot.

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>>58584822
>>58585630
>>58585846
>>58586400
>>58586569
meanwhile /hlgg/

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>>58586745
I wish I had the image that would be appropriate right now.

>I hate you
>I don't even think about you

'Where there's excessive hatred, there's love lurking somewhere'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58586120
You haven't visited our thread before, clearly. Fucks there deep throat bait like catholic nuns. Plus it usually happens when there are no streams and people are bored

[Anonymous No.]

>>58586744
ok post the sucking dick clip
oh wait....that never happened(mel does solo content)
but this clip happened and vshojo never did anything like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F3VobvFGx4

[Anonymous No.]

>>58586156
>>58586360
Melody actually blows dildos on steam on CB. This isn't a secret and you're about the only dipshit I've found on /vt/ who holds it against her. Curious, even tribalfagging holotards generally give Mel a pass because it's her primary profession.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58586496
Their self awareness is on the level of garden slug.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58587100
>can't tell the difference between cute&ero and simply slutty ero
baka desu senpai
You must be one of those people who don't have any natural disgust sense (id est: things that disgust normally don't disgust you (exempli gratia: rotting corpses)).

[Anonymous No.]

>>58587248
holy shit this guy speaks japanese and latin

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>>58586569
because we have a couple of resident holofags in the thread, it's not hard to figure out
I personally don't watch holo, nothing against them, I just don't have the time to watch every chuuba
but we can't really prevent when some anons start talking about them, in fact by the way you're talking and the points you're bringing up you might actually be one of these anons who start talking about holo in the vsj thread out of nowhere
because the other day there was someone there with your same exact talking points

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>58587286

>isn't aware of the word-filters
Just ousted yourself mate. Go back to your own website.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58587248
holy cope

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>>58587155
>you're about the only dipshit I've found on /vt/ who holds it against her
You haven't been here long.
It's a general sentiment that is so general that it doesn't need to be spoken. Like: the sun is is hot, water is wet; so too: Melody is a degenerate slut not worthy of being recognised as a normal human.

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>>58586668
>You ignored his point about how holofans don't talk about vsj models nearly as much
Except for the threads made in the catalog talking shit about Mouse's thousandth model, or any "western whore" combat model, the latest "Veibae" clone, and so forth. You fags rage at anything that isn't hololive every damn time. The reason you can't talk shit about their models is you know they mog everything about hololive and the archaic proprietary software they require their models use which results in comically embarrassing rigidity and "rhombus" results. I still giggle about the girls finding it novel and interesting to stick static pngs to their models or be able to stick their tongues out. Something every non Holo and Niji has been able to do for over two years. So you stick to what you can talk shit about... WHORES!

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>>58587398
>IT actually can't tell the difference
Sad, many such cases.
You are, put simply, a defective human. Sub-human, one might say.

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>>58587553
You're raging right now. So much passion... for something you don't care about. lol.
Also, you have what is called 'confirmation bias'.

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>>58587615
blah blah blah
it's ok when hololive does it
same cope every time

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>>58587747
but you're posting in a vshojo thread right now
that image doesn't make sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>58587861
vshoujofags talk about hololive constantly

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>>58587553
>muh models
'VShojo really thought that they had purchased a piece of vtuber history embodied in polygons, and were naive enough to think that mocking laughter from Hololive was respect for the wealth that enabled them to buy what their own tradition and culture lacked'.

'Machines are a means to an end, not an end in themselves. As much as we appreciate the achievements of modern civilization and use them to improve life, we know that they are not the sole meaning of life. There are national values that are the result of centuries of history and tradition. They cannot be purchased, only built by the labor of generations'.

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>>58587898
idk man, go check out the thread
I don't really see that much holo talk
if any

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>>58587992
You're talking about Holo right now.

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>>58588030
yeah, but I'm not the one claiming "I don't think about it at all" while posting in a thread about it kek
that was the post I was replying to

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>>58587959
>Literally everyone who's not a Holo/Nijifag: Holo and Niji have shitty rigging and bad models
>Holofag cope:

[Anonymous No.]

>>58588125
>at all
Nobody talks in absolutes except retards. When such absolutist words are used, it's called 'exaggeration' or 'hyperbole'.

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>>58588236
So you admit everybody else does think about Holo.
Checkmate atheists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58588316
hmm I see
still coming into a thread and engaging in discussion about it seems really far from it
but ok, bro
whatever you say

[Anonymous No.]

>>58587898
>projection

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>>58588394
I think you're confusing think about with "see". In a similar manner to someone who enjoys indie games knowing about the AAA games it's emulating, without actually having to play the games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58588405
You're still thinking in absolutist ways.
Something might be wrong with your brain.

[Anonymous No.]

luv me whores
simple as

[Anonymous No.]

>>58588639
>In a similar manner to someone who enjoys indie games knowing about the AAA games it's emulating, without actually having to play the games.
No, I don't understand. That would be assuming, not 'knowing'.

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>>58588808
Because the quality of a model can be seen purely visually anon. Please think with your brain for once.

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>>58586400
Thanks, it's always amusing how twitchfags obsess over shit like models and rigging because their sluts can't compete in any other way (and I don't even like how their models tend to feel).

[Anonymous No.]

You want less bait? You want less tribalism?

>rangeban SEA
>delete /#/ and permaban all frequent IPs

It's literally that easy. You will see tribalfaggotry decimated overnight.

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>>58588959
>can be seen purely visually
But it can't be 'known' that way.
'The goal to be reached is the mind's insight into what knowing is. Impatience asks for the impossible, wants to reach the goal without the means of getting there. The length of the journey has to be borne with, for every moment is necessary, ... because by nothing less could that all-pervading mind ever manage to become conscious of what itself is — for that reason, the individual mind, in the nature of the case, cannot expect by less toil to grasp what its own substance contains'.
- Phänomenologie des Geistes

'It is easier to discover a deficiency in individuals, in states, and in providence, than to see their real import or value'.
- Vorlesungen über die Philosophie der Weltgeschichte

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>>58589171
bro what the fuck are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58589171
Now everyone will know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58589039
>You want less tribalism?
No.
I want each tribe to remain in their circle and only talk about their cricle.

Tribalism is just. Globalism is evil.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58589278
Are you saying love shouldn’t bloom on the battlefield?

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>>58584196
I was talking about it because it was cute and funny. Her rigging has been shit since day 1 and Cover clearly has no intention of improving it.

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>>58548283
>Every few days we got a thread that's basically saying "Look how great Vshojo is!
?????

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>>58590411
Catch up anon. We all know OP is a lying faggot who started this thread as bait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58574150
>>58586762

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>>58548283
Brownvtm hands typed this