/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Uhh...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-5myIjA9jM

[Anonymous No.]

>>58334800
Yes, this is why this branch is such a failure.

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>>58334800
IMAGINE THE SMELL

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>>58334800
problem?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58334800
Disgusting

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>>58334800
nearly all japanese people smoke, it's fucking disgusting

[Anonymous No.]

stop it now Raden You are supposed to be an idol you're going to ruin your voice!

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>>58335796
When I went to japan, I saw tons of zoomers vaping

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>>58334800
>VSinger generation
>Smoker
Ack
I still subscribed to them though, they're all endearing in their own ways. Fuck the cull.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58334800
I don't like that she has the same laugh as Pekora.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58334800
How?
My singer friends don't even drink cold water anymore because they care about their throats.
And yet this fucking woman smokes a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

Chilling with oji sans smoking cigarettes outside the konbini was comfy af, so many fun conversations.

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>>58334800
hell yeah I love a dirty bitch

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>>58335796
>nearly all

Maybe 20 years ago, boomer

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>>58336316
>Cold water ruin your throat
what

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>>58336481
NTA but cold water constricts your throat and vocal cords, making vocal control more difficult. Room temperature and warm water help relax the throat and soothe it when it's being strained, which is why a lot of chubas will also drink room temperature water.

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>>58336475
Eh, it's still absolutely prolific, although jap zoomies are vaping with these weird vape things that you still put cigarettes into.

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>>58334800
>heavy smoker
Am I crazy in being surprised that she is allowed to say this shit?
This is pretty much the same as admitting she is purposely fucking up her voice, lungs, health, and wont be able to sing or perform dances well in 3D.
I am sure a lot of Holos smoke but saying it like that is insane to me.

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>>58334800
Marine HATES her

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>>58334800
Twapper got friend finally

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>>58334800
Oh fuck. Trashy women make me so hard. Thanks for getting this to me, anon.

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>>58336849
There's a difference between
>full creative freedom
and
>dude, weed, lmao
apparently cover adapted the latter for this branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58336481
>>58336653
Warm water in general (close to body temp) is better for optimal health. Some people think it is disgusting.
But one of my gym autism friend always preheated his pocari sweat.

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>>58336316
Even IRyS doesn't actually drink soda any more

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>>58337417
>But one of my gym autism friend always preheated his pocari sweat

I am become vomit

[Anonymous No.]

>Towa wheeeeze

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>>58336316
I mean, she admitted in her debut that she can't sing well anyways despite being in the music gen.

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>>58337346
She probably isn't really a smoker, but the audience for her is made up of a lot of smokers (hard drinking, rakugo loving, chain smoking, pachinko addicted ojisan)

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>>58337208
>>58337504
Towa donta smoka.

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>>58334800
I had a ex that smoked daily. Its really like kissing a ashtray. The constant coughing was terrible too.

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>>58334800
Who cares. Most VTubers sit inside on a computer all day eating ramen and drinking Red Bull. She's hardly the first member with an unhealthy lifestyle. Cover also hire alcoholics and sell booze with their face on it as merchandise. They will probably release her own brand of cigarettes on her birthday stream and the stressed salary men in Japan will lap it up.

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>>58337502
Oh it is absolutely vile
That's why when there's someone said they're obsessed/focused on singing, but likes spicy food, I call bullshit and fake.
You need autism to be the best.

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>>58334800
Yagoo likes to save broken girl, but taking the job of saving junkies from rehabitilation center is a bit too far

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>>58337900
>They will probably release her own brand of cigarettes on her birthday stream

This will make more money than all other holo merch combined.

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>>58337334
you and me both brother

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>>58336316
Reminds of a story where a male tennis pro kicked the William sisters' asses even though he was smoking and drinking

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>>58337900
>>58338001
YOU RIKE?

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>>58334800
I dont really see the problem, what are you gonna sniff her? It's not like you can do that...besides you can buy some cigs and smoke and sit there huffing and wanking, imagining that you are with her...

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>>58336475
Yeah, young generation is into vaping instead, big difference right?

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>>58338084
I knew a guy who got into an ultra-exclusive music conservatory out of high school playing the trumpet. He smoked massive Cuban cigars.

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>>58336974
She seems to really like Marine so maybe she'll quit for her

YAGOO might've just added some years to Raden's life, now if only someone could get her to not drink

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>>58334800
>>58322821

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>>58338342
Cigars aren't the same because you don't inhale

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>>58338401
The fuck?!

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>>58338401
you motherfucker this is the 2nd time tonight

[Anonymous No.]

>>58338344
>smoker
>quit
heh

[Anonymous No.]

>>58336695
you mean e-cigs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58337899
>That's why when there's someone said they're obsessed/focused on singing, but likes spicy food, I call bullshit and fake.
suzy...

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>>58337417
>Preheating pocari sweat
I love ICE COLD pocari sweat so this is an absolute fucking sin

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>>58334800
Towa has a new BFF!

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>>58334800
Number 27 please

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>>58338824
Everywhere I have been, an "e-cig" is a vape with nicotine juice, the ones that the zoomies use in Japan you stick a whole cigarette inside it and it uses induction or some shit to heat it up and you "smoke" it.

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>>58334800
holy fuck her rigging is fucking crazy. also, extremely faggot thread, women that smoke are incredibly sexy.

[Anonymous No.]

buy ads

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>>58334800
>21
>smokes and drinks
>be me
>25
>have never smoked or tasted alcohol

[Anonymous No.]

一本も吸えば最高なアイドルになるらでん

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>>58334800
My wife Ame never smokes

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>>58342046
not even alcohol? I don't think it's particularly one unusual to not have even tried smoking

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>>58338423
They affect the vocal cords all the same.

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>>58334800
Is there any proof she actually does all that shit instead of just taking her word for it?

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>>58342046
jesus man at least try to live a little

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>>58334800
How the fuck is she a vsinger while apparently also being a heavy smoker. That shit is going to ruin her voice fast.

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>>58338288
>Yeah, young generation is into vaping instead, big difference right?
Actually yes, retard. All the worst shit about cigs or cigars has nothing to do with the tobacoo and saying it's all the same thing is just your cope.

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>>58334800
fuck smokers, i had enough of second hand smoke.

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>>58342615
Your just a weak faggot.

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>>58342046
>never tasted
Why? I personally have tried both cigarettes and weed once, and never again. And I can't drink jack shit due to meds I have to take everyday, but I used to drink socially.
Trying something once doesn't make you an addict and I sincerely doubt they'd fuck up your life completely afterwards (at least the soft stuff).
It just seems weird to me to not try. Then you can go "yeah, I wasn't going to do this shit because of health reasons but I tried 'em once and don't even like them anyway".

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>>58342615
I will smoke and you will all join me in extinction

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>>58334800
>/vt/ loves hags
>gets an actual, legitimate hag
>/vt/ hates her

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>>58343069
>It just seems weird to me to not try. Then you can go "yeah, I wasn't going to do this shit because of health reasons but I tried 'em once and don't even like them anyway".
Not that anon but 99% of addicts start with a "I'll just give it a try", it's really much better to completely abstain from harmful things that you don't intend on doing your whole life right from the start.

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>>58343541
she's 21

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>>58342046
You should always try something at least once in your life, except crack. Also avoid buying shit from unknown dudes or some friend's cousins. Lost a couple of guys in my department due to fentanyl-laced coke.

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>>58342782
>>58343319
go suck on your cancer stick faggot losers.

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>>58343568
yeah like marine is 17, right?

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>>58335649
for you in the long term yes

[Anonymous No.]

I genuinely don't understand why people romanticize caffeine and alcohol but somehow smoking is badong and basically the devil to them.

[Anonymous No.]

How hard is it to quit nicotine vs weed/alcohol/junk food?

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>>58343562
I don't think you can get addicted from doing something once. I've smoked a whole pack a few years ago and that was that. I heard americans are addicted to coke and soda but maybe they are exaggerating?

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>>58343541
>/vt/ hates her
really?

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>>58343716
you absolutely can. don't mess with drugs

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>>58343716
>I don't think you can get addicted from doing something once
you definitely can, see heroin or fentanyl

[Anonymous No.]

>>58343662
Caffine and alcohol, unless you are drunk driving, only affect yourself. People have to smell your smoke, fuck you.

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>>58343702
It's much harder to leave this place desu

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>>58343777
>>58344007
I'm addicted to mastubation and I won't stop anytime soon. No need for drugs

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>>58344026
Have you never been near an alcoholic person before? they smell worse than any smoker, they're literally covered in their own puke you retard.

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>>58343716
From what I've seen from most to least dangerous:

Opioids
Meth
Deliriants
Cocaine
Tobacco
------ Should Never Try ------
Alcohol
Sugary drinks (Excess sugar in general)
Dissociatives
Molly
Weed
Psychedelics

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>>58344169
I'd put tobacco above coke, but otherwise agree.

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>>58344127
In your shithole country maybe faggot, you can't drink in public here retard, and no one around me got so drunk they puked, speak alot of what retards you hang around with.

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>>58344442
>no one around me got so drunk
So you never met an actual alcoholic.
Fuck off and stop talking about shit you know nothing about then you stupid fucking retard.

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>>58343662
alcohol has been around for centuries and is engrained into pretty much every culture on earth. its still to this day extremely romanticized in every type of media and makes way too much money for any government to warrant its restriction, despite being a worse drug than many other drugs that are already illegal.

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>>58344478
Loser go get yourself beat up by your alcoholic dad in your third world shithole and die to cancer smoking faggot.

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>>58344574
>alcohol has been around for centuries
Has nothing to do with the discussion.
Just because something is old doesn't mean it's good for you faggot.
>>58344580
The fact that you get so worked up over it means that you're probably the alcoholic wife beater here. Except that you don't even have a wife to beat, you're just sitting alone in your room with a big fat ugly beer belly fapping to underage girls on the internet or something.

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>>58344580
Wild levels of projection

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>>58344127
>they're literally covered in their own puke you retard.
They smell really bad even when they haven't puked. It's honestly impressive how disgusting a real alcoholic "person" smells like just from drinking all day until they pass out.

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>>58344682
I urge you to read my post again but without intentionally trying to missinterpret everything I said

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>>58344847
I urge you to fuck off and take the L with you already.

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>>58336849
It's to increase your desire to fix her. Some people love broken bitches because the desire to fix them into proper house wives gets them hard

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>>58334800
EWWW her teeth would probably look yellow and brownish from all the smoking DISGUSTING

[Anonymous No.]

>Smoker
Your room smell likes a shit
You smell like a shit
You taste like a shit

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>>58343577
>You should always try something at least once in your life
What about sucking dick

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>>58343662
In moderation neither are worse for you than most shit we do. Smoking even in moderation will make you stink, fuck up your appearance and you know the whole cancer thing.

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>>58345672
Pipe smoking in moderation literally extends your life.
Nicotine in general is just as good as caffeine if not better for you. Just because you get shitty cheap gas station shit filled with thousands of chemicals doesn't mean that smoking in moderation is any worse than drinking in moderation.

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>>58345639
How about no, just use a rope instead

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>>58345749

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>>58342144
And you don't use those to play the trumpet.

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>>58345749
You tell him camel joe

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>>58345749
>Pipe smoking in moderation literally extends your life.
>Nicotine in general is just as good as caffeine if not better for you
Ogey doc. Did you get your title in the Trump University?

[Anonymous No.]

Damn I wish I made enough money to smoke.

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>>58337722
*an

God, these lines from memory, you got that from the same propaganda we all looked at. No it's not, maybe if you did it in the same few minutes before drinking water you fucking willing propaganda conduit.

Reasons to smoke: is a neuroplasticiser
Reasons not to smoke: is a DNA mutagen

>>58336481
Korea. Asia in general but it spread from Korea that drinking cold water will like freeze your insides and hurt you, it's a ridiculous excuse to avoid the expense of providing cold drinks to people. It's from the same puddle of evil that spawned "fan death", the ridiculously pervasive viral idea that leaving a fan on while you're asleep will somehow kill you. Yeah, more like it's gonna cost dad 36 cents, or maybe it's gonna cost the government 0.002 cents that you could have saved them by just suffering a lot more than that amount is worth. Don't let this crap spread.

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>>58343662
the modern cigarette hate was like a pre globohomo enforcement propagated by western elites in the late 00s. the next is alcohol. it could be banned by globohomo elites as well.

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>>58334800
>Raden smokes a lot
>There's a word "raden" that means either a title for prince and/or princess, a title for any royal lineage, or greetings to the nobles
Raden is a honorary Indonesian.

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>>58334800
so is she a hag? I feel like no one would be so open about smoking if they weren't already so old that they've got nothing to lose, but I don't know what its like in Japan

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>>58345790
>>58345805
>>58345827
>>58345950

https://www.unav.edu/documents/16089811/16155256/Smoking+and+Health+the+Surgeon+General+Report+1964.pdf

>According to the Committee, cigar smoke has 4 times as much benz(a)pyrene as cigarette smoke, and pipe smoke ten times as much as cigarette smoke (p. 58). Yet, the Committee found pipe and cigar smoke to be pretty much innocent of causing lung cancer, and even concluded that pipe smokers live longer than non-smokers.

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>>58346115
Fantastic! The surgeon is inspired!
Fantastic! The surgeon is inspired!
Fantastic! The surgeon is inspired!
Fantastic! The surgeon is inspired!

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>>58334800
>otakmori

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>>58346115
bro bringing in the 1964 evidence, time to grab an asbestos biscuit

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>>58346271
It's not like you can conduct a new study that only focuses on pipe smoking anymore.
They had to push their little propaganda and lump everything together as cancer inducing even though you and I both know that smoking some cheap shitty gas station cigarette and smoking a good quality pipe tobacco is VERY different.

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>>58346115
What page is that quote on?

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>>58345892
Holy fuck I hate k*rea so much, chaebol slaves and feminist cult owned subhumans, Japan should have finished the job.

[Anonymous No.]

Also reminder that eating meat also causes cancer now, hope you eat veggies or bugs now :^)

[Anonymous No.]

towa love it and you guys love her

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>>58346381
You're retarded, my god. Please smoke like a chimney and remove yourself from the gene pool to do humanity a favor.

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>>58344026
>alcohol, unless you are drunk driving, only affect yourself.
t. never had someone close to you fall to alcoholism

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>>58346625
I smoke a good pipe.
You smoke cocks.

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>>58346440
koreans are still superstitious in many things. they were like a third world country on steroid. they economically grew hard but tons of pre modern shitty norms/beliefs have still remained.

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>>58343662
equating caffeine to smoking is the most 4chins thing I've ever seen lol

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>>58346739
t. redditard drug addict.

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>>58346115
increased mortality rate is a bad thing you fucking moron

[Anonymous No.]

>ctrl F
>DONTA
>Only 1 result
This board is absolutely infested with newfags

[Anonymous No.]

>>58337479
that was because mori said it will fuck her kidney, still funny as fuck, you can hear the exact moment her heart break in that chadcast

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>>58346804
>Retarded anon can't read and cherrypicks at random

[Anonymous No.]

most chuubas dont leave their home, eat burgers, drink energy drinks and alcohol
but smoking is where it's "unhealthy"?
you guys are retarded

[Anonymous No.]

Normally I would say sell but her stocks were never worth buying in the first place

[Anonymous No.]

>>58346878
just wanted to be sure that you understood what death rate meant

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>>58346959
Those things are fine in moderation. Smoking doesn't allow for moderation due to how addictive it is. It isn't a matter of it, it's a matter of when, you start smoking multiple packs a day.

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>>58346959
Smoking is extra disgusting because it completely ruins the place they live in if they do it inside.

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>>58346959
Yes, you druggie

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>>58347046
>Those things are fine in moderation
yeah but most of them doesn't do it in moderation, a lot of them are extremely unhealthy
>>58347054
and what makes you believe she does it inside?

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>>58347014
There's hundreds of vTubers that play games and sing all day long.
Someone specializing in talking and telling stories is kinda novel.

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>>58347054
shitty alcohol lovers with weak alcohol resistance can also be violent and harass people

i still smoke a bit and drink sake many times but i hate those who quickly get drunk like retards and im sure the next target of globohomo elites is alcohol

[Anonymous No.]

27 ban kudasai PEKO!!

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>>58335796
The smoking rate has absolutely tanked in Japan, it was 45% in the 80s but we're down to 10% now

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>>58338001
BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY

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>>58347015
pg. 30
>The death rates for pipe smokers are little if at all higher than for non-smokers, even for men who smoke 10 or more pipefuls a day and for men who have smoked pipes more than 30 years.

pg. 32
>Nicotine is rapidly changed in the body to relatively inactive substances with low toxicity. The chronic toxicity of small doses of nicotine is low in experimental animals. These two facts, when taken in conjunction with the low mortality ratios of pipe and cigar smokers, indicate that the chronic toxicity of nicotine in quantities absorbed from smoking and other methods of tobacco use is very low and probably does not represent an important health hazard. The significant beneficial effects of smoking occur primarily in the area of mental health, and the habit originates in a search for contentment. Since no means of measuring the quantity of these benefits is apparent, the Com-mittee finds no basis for a judgment which would weigh benefits against hazards of smoking as it may apply to the general population.

pg. 36
>Death rates for current pipe smokers were little if at all higher than for non-smokers, even with men smoking 10 or more pipefuls per day and with men who had smoked pipes for more than 30 years. Ex-cigar and ex-pipe smokers, on the other hand, showed higher death rates than both non-smokers and current pipe or cigar smokers in four out of five studies (Chapter 8, p. 94). The explanation is not clear but may be that a substantial number of such smokers stopped because of illness.

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>>58334800
As a fellow smoker I can relate

[Anonymous No.]

>>58347014
MARINE KILLER

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>>58338001
who's cigarettes would you buy?
Suisei or Lui flavored gotta be the best ones
Towa and Chloe sound really great too

[Anonymous No.]

>>58334800
Reminds me of picrel. Kinda hot

[Anonymous No.]

If she ever sells lighter as merch I hope Cover can somehow arrange international shipping for those because they're on prohibited items list of every single proxy I've used.

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>>58343662
Three decades of constant propaganda will do that.

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>>58338780
You think it's impossible or something? Because I've seen plenty of examples of the opposite. (Including myself. My last smoke was 10 years ago.)

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>>58342046
absolutely based
never change, bro

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>>58334800
I love smokers, they are so cute

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>>58348061
Never leaving your house is so based bro.

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>>58335796
>it's fucking disgusting
you are 普通 anon

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>>58343562
>99% of addicts start with a "I'll just give it a try",
99% of non-addicts start with that too. The difference is the follow-up. Sure, if you can't control yourself then it's a bad idea to start, but if you've got confidence in your self-discipline it's no big deal.

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>>58338423
>>58342144
yea it's fairly clear neither of you have ever smoked so stay out of the discussion
>>58348038
or some people don't want to quit because it keeps them from blowing their brains out from dealing with /vt/ level IQ people on daily basis

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>>58348170
I used to smoke. There is a big difference between cigars where you just hold it in your mouth and cigs where you inhale it all the way down you ape moron.

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>>58343702
It's quite hard. I'd say alcohol and it are around the same level of difficulty. But it's a different feeling. You get cravings for nicotine like crazy. With alcohol (unless you're really deep in the hole), it's more of a feeling of "needing it to have fun". (At least in my experience.)

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>>58338401
Motherfucker

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>>58347046
Not really true. I smoked for about 5 years and I always kept it to max 5 smokes a day. However, I will admit that most fellow smokers I met tended to smoke a pack a day and didn't seem to think about it at all.

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>>58343662
You CAN safely drink and still smell good.
You CAN'T safely smoke and smell good. Also you make everything around you smell bad and you yourself can't smell it because your sense of smell is basically dead.

I'm saying this as someone who did quit smoking a few years ago.

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>>58339394
It's called IQOS I believe.
Girls at my workplace all smoke that shit.
Doesn't smell as bad as regular cigarettes, but it still smells.

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>>58338401
what the FUCK

[Anonymous No.]

>>58339195
...is Raden actually a parallel world Peko who smokes? Korone was only warning us... this is some steins gate shit right here...

[Anonymous No.]

>>58348357
>You CAN'T safely smoke and smell good
Arguable. I think nicotine smells good, even as a non-smoker. But it depends on freshness. (Which is why you never smoke inside.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>58348506
Your clothes sucks the smoke so good you can't just ventilate it, only by washing.

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>>58348100
It is.

[Anonymous No.]

I think this might be a generational (and regional) thing. Smoking in Japan is still quite common, whereas zoomers in the west absolutely despise smoking. Millennials are basically half-and-half since we grew up in a time where it was much more common, despite knowing the risks.

[Anonymous No.]

Sitting on your ass all day eating garbage as a fat neet will see you dead long before the pack a day concrete placer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58348547
Depends on the clothes and where you wear them.
I'm not trying to take away from your opinion that smokers always smell bad, I'm just saying that not everyone shares it.

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>>58348632
It's the same in Japan. They just have a lot less quitters in older generations because they haven't had several decades of anti-smoking campaigns yet.

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>>58348648
Yes, and funnily enough the only people who sit around arguing to defend eating junk food and being obese are obese slobs themselves in denial. That's what smokers look like to non-smokers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58334800
Smoka.....

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>>58348632
western zoomers are brainwashed by woke media and education every way possible . they will live like puritans

[Anonymous No.]

Big Tobacco's paid shills have found this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58337900
Peko will get ciggy merch first. It's a big meme for jps.

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>>58335796
no joke, you can get cancelled in Japan if you’re famous and say anything bad about smoking. it’s fucking insane

[Anonymous No.]

>>58348970
i wish, im running out of clover cigs

[Anonymous No.]

>>58334800
how to ruin your career involving your voice: S M O K E

[Anonymous No.]

a pack of 27, please

[Anonymous No.]

why does she literally sound exactly like pekora? is the rrat about all of regloss just being other holomems true?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58348911
They know their days are numbered.

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>>58348632
>zoomers in the west absolutely despise smoking.

Except they are cracked out of their skulls 24/7 on crazy strength weed carts and more hooked on their nic vape than the most hardened smoker ever was on their ciggies.

[Anonymous No.]

westerners get so pressed about smoking eventhough they started the fad

[Anonymous No.]

>>58349029
But it helped Towa???

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>>58343662
That's why I don't drink alcohol. Why the hell would I willingly poison myself and make my body literally fight for survival?
I also drink a white boomer ultra once in a while, but I don't believe caffeine is as bad as alcohol for my body.

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>>58349619
you fight for survival by not doing it

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>>58334800
why didn't jap stop smoking when america did? it causes lung cancer and stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>it’ll kill you!
Alzheimer’s runs in my family. Dying of something else first is the entire point

[Anonymous No.]

>>58349666
just do puzzles and you won't get alzheimer's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58349647
America also turned its population into dumb fat sows by poisoning the food supply around that time. Japs still got the best life expectancy on the planet despite ojisan smoking from 15-98 years old.

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>>58349647
they dont have weed

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>>58349643
Somehow I survived so far without any effort.

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>>58342249
Smoking is just torture and alcohol doesn't even taste good, you degens just pretend to enjoy them because you easily fold under peer pressure. Good food>>>>>alcohol>smoking

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>>58349647
amerimutts are trying to prohibit everything

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>>58337900
Honestly I eased off on how unhealthy hololive girls were after I saw a few streams of their mamas. Pochi, Ui and Rurudo make me think being unhealthy is just the default for anyone in the otaku field of work, girls who look after their health are just an anomaly.

>>58339050
Suisei is werid.
>Wants to be idol
>Won't exercise to improve her lung capacity
>Won't eat healthy
>Won't eat most veg in general
Her body is an instrument for her career and she still won't take care of it despite obsessing over idols. If you're going to put in the work I don't know why you wouldn't just eat healthier.

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>>58344879
Learn to read more than one sentence. Stop being an illiterate retard.

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>>58349825
t. zoomer

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>>58349857
Suisei is a nerd that just stumbled on success through vtubers just like almost everyone else. If the medium didn't exist she would be a nobody.
She is exactly as weird as everyone else.

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>>58346647
Yeah people always like to pretend substance abuse is a victimless crime. You don't even need drug or alcohol users to destroy themselves. I especially hate it for drugs, because those cunts clearly haven't had to deal with junkies trying to get their fix through armed robbery.

I hate people who peddle victimless crimes alsmost as much as the suppliers.

>>58349425
NGL I would rather smoke than vape. I do neither because I'm not a retard, but zoomers literally give themselves (any everyone unfortunate enough to be near their strawberry and cream scented clouds) literal brain damage.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-65614078
>Used vapes gathered at Baxter College in Kidderminster were tested in a laboratory.The results showed children using them could be inhaling more than twice the daily safe amount of lead, and nine times the safe amount of nickel.

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>>58334800
Well, no off collab with Marine nor Akirose...beside that I don't give a shit if she smokes, I am not gonna fuck her anytime soon so it's fine

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>>58334800
I quitted smoking because I have lung infection.
But I don't despise smokers, if I can heal my lung I will smoke again, no vape tho, I prefer to roll my own cig with paper/leaf and tobacco. I think vape is for faggots that don't wanna take the risk from cigarettes.

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>>58349997
>She is exactly as weird as everyone else.
Not really. I'm not a person supposedly following my dream, objectively given a chance to do it, then gimping myself because I can't follow a diet. Imagine being a pro athlete who doesn't make an effort with nutrition.
Suisei is weird simply because she's already got a "career" singing, and she could make minor changes to help improve her singing but she won't. Looking after your body is the easy part now she has some fame, connections, etc.

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>>58350224
The thing is that she's not a pro athlete. She is a random scrub that got the chance to be a well known singer. Not saying she hasn't put in any work to make it happen, but so much of it has been just up to luck rather than a strict competition to be the best.
She doesn't need to give up her childish lifestyle to keep this up because she's not going to be knocked down for being objectively less better at singing than someone else.

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>>58334800
Smoking is based, more people should do it

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>>58349857
>>58350224

>talking as if you know what she does behind the scenes or know her as a person

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Man I used to love smoking. But that shit did a number on my lungs and it got to the point where I couldn't breathe while lying down to sleep at night. So I had to quit. I still miss it though very much.

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>>58347014
We got ourselves our own Kagura Mea.

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>>58338401
What in the goddamn...?

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>>58334800

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>>58334800
What the fuck is wrong with it? Is smoking really that frowned upon in burgerland? No matter where, in uni, at work, in every group of people I've ever been at least one third of them smoke, sometimes more like half of them, regardless of gender. No one bats an eye. A lot of people have moved on to vaping though.
I know plenty of people who are in their 80s and have been smoking for all their lives, they're either healthy or their problems have absolutely nothing to do with their lungs or voice.
>>58337900
This. You can't be shitting on Raden for just drinking and smoking when she travels often at least. Most holo girls or vtubers in general eat nothing but instant food, drink tons of energy drinks and spend weeks inside, lucky if they even bathe.

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>>58351071
>Is smoking really that frowned upon in burgerland?
People won't confront you for smokong, but they're disgusted by it and don't want to be around smokers.

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WHITE OUTLINE

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>>58350643
>Girl talks about how she doesn't do sports
>Her only idea of exercise is walking
>Despises vegetables

It's not hard to see how unhealthy she is. She isn't an exception either, plenty of girls at hololive live unhealthy lifestyles and are unhealthy as fuck, to the point where the fittest girl at the company is Korone.

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>>58346240
is it really an otakmori alt? can you give me some proof so I ask youtube to never recomend it to me again

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Smoking is ba- COUGH COUGH COUGH HAAAAACKKK *dies 30 years early*

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>>58351071
>like half of them
the smoking rate in burgerland is 11.5% and most of that is old people

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>>58351071
my aunt's husband smoke so much he got to the point he can't almost breathe sometimes and needs an oxigen tank nearby to help him, because of that my aunt and my cousins who were also smokers stopped doing it or do it less and not in my aunt's house, so it's not a problem if you smoke more than a problem of how much you do I guess

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>>58351667
who the fk want to live till their 80s anyway

[Anonymous No.]

Why can't more women be like Fuwawa and Mococo

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>>58351825
This.

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>>58351825
What's a saviorfag gonna do with Fuwamoco? Let me save Raden. Let me try to fix her. Fuwamoco is fine, but they don't attract me the way Raden does.

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>>58336481
Some singers are really weird when it comes to their vocal cords. They won't drink any carbonated or acidic drinks. Or even just fucking clear their throat like a normal person and rather do this annoying "ahem ahem"-thing for 5 minutes instead.

If your vocal cords are that fragile, then I hope they'll rip.

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>>58344169
psychedelics can cause severe psychotic breakdowns i've seen multiple myself to rank it below alcohol is ignorance. Cocaine is pretty good actually

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>>58334800
buy an ad, faggot.

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>>58334800
HOLY BASED

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>>58337712
she absolutely did or does. the difference is not everybody is shameless enough to admit it.

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Smoking is good and based

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>>58354016
>Einstein
>stein

>Captcha: RATVX

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>>58334800
Imagine not being charmed by how gross Raden is, incredible

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>>58348112

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omg i cant believe her! we must cancel her on xitter now sisters, just like that 17 year old vtuber we caught drinking while underage!

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>>58345950
>the next is alcohol. it could be banned
based. can come soon enough

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>>58342046
Based and same

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>>58337626
What... Why us she here then?

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>>58334800
Suisei, Matsuri, Korone, Marine, Towa and Laplus all smoke. How is this controversial?

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>>58347014
>Can't sing
She's joking right? She was easily the weakest singer in the MV yeah, but this is a music focused group. Singing is the whole fucking point.

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>>58346115
>Retard’s a phasefag
Typical

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>>58350128
The retarded generation.

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>>58348170
>some people
Some people are weak. Unfortunately, that's most people.

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>>58334800
already dropped.

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>>58338001
Not really, almost all private places ban smoking, and japanese salarymen are very shy about their hobbies, so they would never whip out an Hololive cigarette in public.
It's not like instant ramen or sake that they can eat/drink at home while watching the girls.

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>>58337900
Those don't ruin your vocal cords and doesn't make you smell like a public ashtray.

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>>58344478
Anything is bad when it gets to addicts. Might as well ban sugar and salt too, since the people who are addicted to that also smell bad.
Or people who are addicted to vtubers, they also smell bad. And if you think otherwise, then you never met a true scotsman.

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I will never understand why people seethe at whatever someone else is doing. If the lass wants to smoke, let her be it's her damm problem, you are not her friend or family member so it won't affect you.

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>>58348123
If you don't plan to continue consuming the addictive substance what is the point in even trying in the first place? When you start consuming the substance after trying, it eliminates the need for any discipline.
The "give it a try" idea is straight up dumb. Because it necessarily supposes a possibility that you'll continue using and that only makes sense if you were never opposed to doing so in the first place.

I am pretty sure most of the time someone tells you to try something like this is because they want you to join them in the addiction. Never been offered a cigarette to try by a non smoker, that's for sure. That being said, I have tried cigarettes.

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>>58357302
Anon, this whole board is about caring about what someone else is doing.

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>>58356280
nani?!?!?

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>>58342046
That's the way brother, stay far from this shit

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>>58356280
Okay, give me a real list. No rrats. With sources.

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>>58334800
based seven stars enjoyer, glory to JTI

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>>58342046
Based

[Speaker of the Truth No.]

>>58357511
That's a lie by the way

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>>58357511
Yes they all smoke my penis

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>>58356280
>Korone
Isn't her voice too sweet for that?

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>>58342046
Smoking and drinking, clubbing, partying, going to bars and such are all signs that a girl has taken light years worth of cock

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Isn't smoking majorly taboo for an idol? Considering they're supposed to be role models and all. I remember controversies occurring after idols were found smoking in the past. Maybe it's because this is a side branch, but I'm surprised she was allowed to admit this.

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>>58334800
God I hope she smokes on stream. I love it when chuubas flick their lighters

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>>58359962
>idol
There are no idols in post-Coco Hololive.

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>>58359962
being upfront about it helps

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>>58351071
If she smokes, she pokes.

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>>58357302
Anon the vast majority of this board is made of SEAgulls. And a lot of them are actual unironic mudslims. Reason why they sperg out like tard whenever alcohol, smoking and tattoos are mentioned while jerking off to underaged anime girls and wishing death to autistic women.

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>>58349825
>alcohol doesn't even taste good
They don't all taste like piss anon. Try pic related, it's basically Sprite with 4% alcohol.

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>>58346846
kek link?

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>>58349825
Alcohol can taste good, it all depends on what you're drinking. I have a pretty big sweet tooth and I didn't care for alcohol at all when I tried beers and some wines. But then I got into cocktails and that's where I found some stuff that can be pretty good.

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>>58349857
>Won't eat most veg in general
Based carnivore idol with caveman-tier diet

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>>58338001
I traded the sticks for a USB a few years back, but I'd buy a pack to try them if they did something like this.

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>>58334800
Based

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>>58346115
look man, I smoke as well, but coping with actual tobacco industry propaganda like that is fucking delusional. All forms of smoking that involve burning shit and breathing it in is toxic. Including cigars. Just acknowledge that you're fucking your lungs and lifespan

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>>58349873
Kill yourself retard

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>>58365990
>propaganda
It's one of the most robust studies there is about it with hundreds of pages, math and comparisons with other studies.
The only propaganda is the one you bought about alcohol being safe when it's literal poison.

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>>58336481
Like with diabetes. There is no direct connection between cold water and, for example, you getting sore throat/ill BUT it can contribute to that. Probably. I don't remember any research done on that. Nothing more than anecdotes and personal experience. I have shit health and every time i consumed cold beverages, my body reacted in a pretty rough way. And i just now remember one anon telling me that cold water forces your body to immediately constrict blood vessels in your throat and that can create micro tears and entry points for bacteria and viruses. Anon will never lie to me so it's probably true.

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>>58348375
So it’s like a weed vaporizer, but for tobacco. I imagine it smells kind of like a modern juul (as in, the kind with tobacco flavors) but more likely to stick because it’s tobacco?

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>>58342046
based. lost my grandma to smoking and alcohol has mindfucked multiple people in my family. some people are genetically prone to addiction. not worth taking the chance

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>>58334800
as long as she doesnt smoke around my oshi i dont give a fuck

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>>58338401
tell me your secrets you witch

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>>58343662
secondhand smoking is worse

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>>58366503
There's no tobacco, just some ''tea'' leaves or ''tea'' leaf granules with nicotine.

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>>58366831
>Taking in a little bit of smoke
>Worse than sucking massive amounts of it directly into your lungs
>Person smoking also inhales the smoke that they put into the air so they'd be getting both anyways
How retarded do you have to be to actually believe this?

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I’m switching to Winstons, that’s the biggest impact here

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>>58349825
>alcohol doesn't even taste good
lol, missing the point

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>>58349825
You don't drink for flavor, you get through the shit flavor so you can get drunk

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>>58367141
same
didn't smoke them for a while

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>>58367316
Speak for yourself, I only drink shit I like the flavour of. This includes mostly craft ciders and some craft beers, since I live somewhere with a fuck tonne of those so there's plenty to try. Some mixed drinks like white russians as well. I refuse to drink liquor straight because it's revolting, and painful.

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>>58334800
Based. I should superchat her and ask if she's tried cigars

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>>58352355
If we’re talking strictly about acute risk when used responsibly then yes, a low-moderate dose of shrooms is riskier than one beer. As dosage gets higher and frequency increases, however, alcohol grows significantly more dangerous relative to psychedelics.

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>comparing smokers and alcoholics
Booze breath might make you nauseous, but smokers gave you 108% dose lung cancer.
The smoke they breathe is legit worse than that what they inhaled.
t. former smoker, who always smoke alone away from people

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>>58368055
smokers don't accidentally launch their cars like cannoballs into yours because they've been made retarded by alcohol

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>>58368055
If you get lung cancer from smoking you're just weak. Winston Churchill smoked 8 cigars a day and died at 90, Ulysses S Grant smoked 20 cigars a day and it took 60 years for cancer to get to him. Weak genes are ruining everyone else's fun

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>>58357316
>what is the point in even trying in the first place?
What's the point of anything? To experience something new and have a better understanding of the world around you. It can also be beneficial to test things out in a controlled environment, instead of being tempted to try it out in the spur of the moment. For example with smoking, most people start because they want to be social with others and they feel pressured into participating. If you've already tried on your own and found it disgusting (like most non-smokers do), then you already know what it's all about and can more easily say no.
>The "give it a try" idea is straight up dumb.
Only if you have zero self-control. If you have autism and think life is about minmaxing your choices to live the absolute longest or be the most safe, then that's fair enough, but most people try to balance their lives around both fun and safety.
>most of the time someone tells you to try something like this is because they want you to join them in the addiction
Why would they want that? Seems like a spurious theory to me. Most smokers don't think that hard about these things, they offer a smoke either because they think they're being nice by sharing or want you to make an informed decision.
I'm not saying everyone should try smoking of course. I'm just saying that there are legitimate reasons why people might want to try something new out, even if they don't plan on making it a habit.

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>>58367316
Like many things, it becomes an acquired taste over time. Beer will actually taste good...non American that is. That's piss water. Why so easy to switch from Bud Light. Same with wine. Connoisseurs prefer dry (less sweet) versions. While the young hipsters expect sweet like grape juice.

btw, smoker that switched to vaping. Woman smokers are always sexy to me. The smell never bothered me....there is much worse than that trust me. You'd be surprised how fast your body repairs itself after quitting. Just do it.

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>>58349825
>you degens just pretend to enjoy them
How old are you? You understand that most of the world's population enjoys alcohol, right?
Well, whatever. You'll understand once you grow up.

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>>58368403
Yea, genes is the biggest factor in getting lung cancer or not. Why the JP used to having the most chain smokers had much less cases of lung cancer.

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I love this hag I dont care, its refreshing to see a holomem be so open about this stuff
smokers and alcoholic women are very hot to me even though i dont drink or smoke and I am very excited to jerk off to all the fan art of her smoking and drinking

[Anonymous No.]

Girls smoking cigarettes is hot, but girls snorting coke is hotter

[Anonymous No.]

Kek what's going on ITT
Bunch of kids talking about shit they have 0 idea

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>>58352355
>Cocaine is pretty good actually
cocaine is too hyped for what it does, the high lasts just some minutes/half an hour and for the price of a dosis I can buy 3 months worth of LSD
psychs are the best when you know what you're doing to be honest

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>>58342483
found the zoomer vape addict lol. enjoy lung cancer

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>>58368341
yeah but when I splatter a family of 4 while im wasted im relatively unharmed, but if I smoke I could get cancer lol

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>>58334800
whats this weird obsession zoomies nowadays have against smoking?

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>>58348170
nigga youre not supposed to drag cigar smoke like with regular ciggarettes.

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>>58346115
>surgeon general in 1964
anon cherry picking a source that agrees from you from decades ago is not the own you think it is.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4080902/

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>>58344442
>literal children in these threads now

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>>58374189
Your wimpy 10 pages college paper from more than a decade ago isn't any better you retard.

[Anonymous No.]

I think it's hot when asian girls smoke as long as they look cute.

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>>58374684
Uoooooooh

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>>58382840
Belly erotic

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>>58334800
Smoking... it's really disgusting.

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>>58334800
My JP oshi

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>>58343662
Alcohol realistically would be classified as a hard drug

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>>58343662
>but somehow smoking is badong and basically the devil to them.
Weedfags who know that their mind controlling drug is currently popular because it pacifies people and they don't want the competition.

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>>58346115
Pippa liking smokers is a usual L take. Who wants their car and clothes to smell like tar?

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>>58347731
Marine can sing and game. Raden is Choco minus ASMR and Arkpex.

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>>58335796
lmao this isn't the 80s anymore

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>>58343716
>americans are addicted to coke and soda but maybe they are exaggerating?
i assure you, it's understated if anything. Folks drink 2 or 3 liters of sodas daily in some places, Deep South and Midwest typically. HFCS has got us hooked

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>>58345749
>Nicotine in general is just as good as caffeine if not better for you.
https://whyquit.com/pr/062422-nicotine-does-not-cause-cancer.html

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>>58391287
Cool article, did your mom write it?

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>>58391287
Lmao what the fuck is this soccer mom shit?